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#115 - It's Never About the Messy Kitchen: Therapist Martina Nova on What Couples Are Really Fighting About

In this episode of the State of Mind Mental Health Podcast, I sit down with Martina Nova — therapist, co-parent, mom of two, and author of the new book Same Page Parenting.

It's never really about the messy kitchen. For Martina, it was a cheese string wrapper left on the counter. For you it might be the dishes or the boots by the door. The fight is almost never about the object — it's about the need underneath it, and the story each of you carries from long before you met.

Martina walks me through what "same page" actually means, and it isn't what most people assume. It doesn't mean agreeing…

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