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- 0:00You're listening to the Play Therapy Podcast with Dr.
- 0:03Brenna Hicks,
- 0:04your source for centered and focused play therapy coaching.
- 0:08Hi,
- 0:08I'm Dr.
- 0:09Brenna Hicks,
- 0:09The Kid Counselor.
- 0:10This is the Play Therapy Podcast where you get
- 0:12a master class in child-centered play therapy
- 0:15and practical support and application for your
- 0:17work with children and their families.
- 0:19In today's episode,
- 0:20I am answering a question from Amelia in California,
- 0:24and
- 0:25this is about a client saying that they are bored.
- 0:29And so this is gonna be a really helpful episode.
- 0:31Thank you,
- 0:31Amelia.
- 0:32I'm glad to
- 0:33address this.
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- 2:09All right.
- 2:10So,
- 2:10let me read parts of Amelia's email and then we'll dive in together.
- 2:15I have more than one client that the theme of being bored comes up.
- 2:18I try to have varied playroom
- 2:21and include as many things from the checklist as I can,
- 2:23but somehow this comment leaves me feeling inadequate.
- 2:25Should I be doing more?
- 2:27This could be followed by a question from the child like,
- 2:30Don't you ever change things in here or get new toys,
- 2:33which then leaves me feeling the need to explain my work.
- 2:36And that I will always try and keep the playroom the same each time.
- 2:40I always validate the child and reflect their feeling of boredom,
- 2:43but I wonder if there's something meaningful in this
- 2:45that I'm missing and would greatly appreciate any insight.
- 2:48OK.
- 2:49So,
- 2:50let's
- 2:51start
- 2:52unpacking this because there's a lot here.
- 2:54All right.
- 2:55When a child says something in the playroom,
- 2:57let's start with that.
- 2:58And,
- 2:58and yes,
- 2:58in your case,
- 2:59Amelia,
- 2:59it says,
- 3:00I'm bored,
- 3:00but
- 3:01when a kid says anything in the playroom,
- 3:04there's meaning behind it.
- 3:06Kids are not verbal beings.
- 3:08They do not think they experience.
- 3:11So if a child says something,
- 3:13now let me be clear,
- 3:14narration of play,
- 3:16I'm not talking about that.
- 3:18Oh,
- 3:18this guy's going here and now I'm gonna jump rope and that's not what I mean.
- 3:21I'm saying
- 3:22when a child makes statements such as I'm bored.
- 3:27Any statement
- 3:28that is introduced
- 3:29that is not related to the play,
- 3:32we know
- 3:33there's more to the story.
- 3:35And so when a child says I'm bored.
- 3:39That's meaningful.
- 3:40It's significant.
- 3:42It is relevant to their work.
- 3:44A kid saying they're bored can mean a lot of things,
- 3:48but with all of those options,
- 3:50it's their junk.
- 3:53So it can be anxiety,
- 3:55it can be resistance,
- 3:57it can be avoidance,
- 3:59it can be
- 4:01concern for choosing.
- 4:02It can be,
- 4:03I've never been in charge my whole life and I don't know what to do.
- 4:06It can be,
- 4:07I mean,
- 4:07there are literally all kinds of reasons a child can say that they're bored.
- 4:12Power and control even.
- 4:14So,
- 4:15when a child says I'm bored,
- 4:17it has nothing to do with you,
- 4:19Amelia.
- 4:19It has nothing to do with your playroom,
- 4:21has nothing to do with whether you have new toys or you don't.
- 4:25This is the child's way
- 4:27of communicating
- 4:29they're uncomfortable.
- 4:32So we have to be very aware
- 4:35of
- 4:36the intent behind a statement like that.
- 4:39A child doesn't really know that they're resisting their work.
- 4:43So what can they say that communicates,
- 4:45I don't want to do anything?
- 4:47I'm bored.
- 4:49I don't know what to do.
- 4:50I don't even know what I should play with in here.
- 4:53Don't you ever get new toys?
- 4:55OK,
- 4:55so you can see how this all goes together.
- 4:57So we're going to start with
- 4:58what they say matters.
- 5:00Now we're going to go through you saying I try to have a
- 5:03varied playroom and include as many things from the checklist as I can.
- 5:08If
- 5:09you have 3 categories of toys represented.
- 5:12And there are enough toys from every category.
- 5:16And they're laid out with intention
- 5:19and you keep the playroom consistent.
- 5:22That is child-centered play therapy.
- 5:24So if you've done those things,
- 5:25you never need to feel inadequate or second-guess yourself
- 5:29because you have provided the environment in which the child
- 5:33can grow.
- 5:35Whether they can't right now
- 5:37or choose not to right now.
- 5:40That's just part of their junk.
- 5:41That has nothing to do with the environment.
- 5:44And so when the child says,
- 5:45don't you ever change things in here or get new toys,
- 5:49when you say it leaves me feeling the need to explain my work.
- 5:53Ah,
- 5:54you got bamboozled.
- 5:55OK.
- 5:56Happens to the best of us,
- 5:57I know.
- 5:58OK.
- 5:59So,
- 5:59when a child says something
- 6:01that makes us wanna start explaining or
- 6:03justifying or rationalizing or excusing or apologizing or
- 6:08any of those
- 6:10active verbs.
- 6:13We know that we're now drifting away from CCPT
- 6:16because let's go back to one of our premises,
- 6:18we don't know anything that the child doesn't know.
- 6:21So the child
- 6:23doesn't know that we keep the playroom the same each time they experience that.
- 6:29And we don't need to tell them that.
- 6:31We don't need to justify anything.
- 6:33So what we would want to do there is reflect a feeling or reflect content.
- 6:39Oh,
- 6:40you wish that I would get new toys sometimes.
- 6:44That would be the feeling
- 6:45or
- 6:47Mm.
- 6:48You don't like that things are the same every single week.
- 6:53Or
- 6:54that would be kind of like a narrative commentary,
- 6:56or
- 6:56we could just truly
- 6:59reflect content.
- 7:01Uh,
- 7:01you're curious if
- 7:03things change or if there's anything new.
- 7:07And we're not giving an answer.
- 7:09Because
- 7:10the child's not actually asking for an answer.
- 7:13This is the child's junk,
- 7:15and this is their stuff coming up.
- 7:18And so we
- 7:20use a reflective response
- 7:21because
- 7:22that's the way that the child feels seen,
- 7:24heard,
- 7:25and understood.
- 7:27But we don't need to provide an answer.
- 7:29Now,
- 7:30if the child persists,
- 7:31you know,
- 7:32more than 3 times of asking the same question,
- 7:36Which I doubt unless it's a power and control kid.
- 7:38I doubt that
- 7:39they would pursue that more than 3 times.
- 7:42But if you have a power and control kid,
- 7:43possibly.
- 7:44So then you say,
- 7:46You really wish that there were new things in here,
- 7:48but
- 7:50The playroom is the playroom.
- 7:53So then you give a concrete fact.
- 7:55It's not an answer to the question.
- 7:56It's not an answer to the question.
- 7:58But you're giving a concrete fact because if you just say,
- 8:01oh,
- 8:01you really wish,
- 8:02or you're curious or you're hoping,
- 8:04or
- 8:05you don't like.
- 8:07Sometimes that feels like a non-answer answer to a child.
- 8:10And so they're going to want more.
- 8:12So when you give them a concrete statement of fact,
- 8:15like,
- 8:17Well,
- 8:18The playroom usually stays the same.
- 8:21Or
- 8:22the playroom's the playroom,
- 8:23or
- 8:24the toys that are in here are for you to use.
- 8:28Then the child realizes,
- 8:29OK,
- 8:30there's really nowhere else for me to go with this.
- 8:33And what that's helping them to do
- 8:35is sit in the pocket of their discomfort.
- 8:38And you're gonna sit in the pocket with them.
- 8:41And they have to figure out how to get themselves out of it.
- 8:44So we never have to feel compelled
- 8:47to do anything because of anything that a child says.
- 8:50And you said that you validate and reflect,
- 8:53so that's exactly how you're going to handle that,
- 8:55Amelia.
- 8:56And
- 8:57is there something meaningful that I'm missing?
- 8:59I think the fact that this is a standard behavior,
- 9:03just like all the other behaviors.
- 9:06We have kids that come in and throw things.
- 9:08We have kids that come in and do not talk.
- 9:11We have kids that stay in the lobby instead of coming back to the playroom.
- 9:15We have kids that come in and
- 9:19room wreck or mess make in our playroom.
- 9:22We have kids that say they're bored.
- 9:24You,
- 9:24you have to think about behaviors.
- 9:26First of all,
- 9:26there's only so many of them,
- 9:28but you have to think about behaviors as standard.
- 9:31This is just like
- 9:32all the other behaviors that I experience.
- 9:35Because anytime we take it personally,
- 9:37that's actually one of the things I was
- 9:38talking about in coaching this week.
- 9:41If we take anything personally,
- 9:44We're going to get ourselves in trouble.
- 9:46We have to let everything go.
- 9:48That's the neutrality of being child-centered
- 9:50play therapy.
- 9:52We don't take anything personally.
- 9:53We know it's not about us.
- 9:56And so
- 9:57If a kid says they're bored,
- 9:59it's not because you failed.
- 10:00It's not because you failed.
- 10:00It's not because the playroom is not what it should be.
- 10:03It's not because you did a disservice to that child.
- 10:06That's their junk,
- 10:07just like when they come in and they beat the crap out of Bobo,
- 10:10or when they throw things at you,
- 10:12or they lay on the floor and cry for the whole 50 minutes,
- 10:16or they beg to leave early.
- 10:17I mean,
- 10:18the list goes on and on.
- 10:19These are the common behaviors that we see.
- 10:21Saying that they're bored,
- 10:22common behavior.
- 10:24So when we get to a point where we can see it neutrally for what it is,
- 10:28it helps us be very adherent to the model.
- 10:31So,
- 10:31Amelia,
- 10:31thank you so much for the question.
- 10:32I hope that that is helpful for all of you
- 10:35because inevitably,
- 10:37you do this long enough,
- 10:38you will have a kid that tells you they're bored.
- 10:40So,
- 10:41we need to know the easiest way to handle that.
- 10:43So,
- 10:44I appreciate the question.
- 10:45If the rest of y'all want to reach out,
- 10:46please do.
- 10:47brenna@thekidcounselor.com.
- 10:49You know how much I love you.
- 10:50We'll talk again soon.
- 10:51Bye.
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- 10:55Brenna Hicks.
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