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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, December 17 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, December seventeen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Hey,
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Speaker 1: now that guy who's got a walker set up at
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Speaker 1: several area bonos. Jane Pace Shadriff the worst places to
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Speaker 1: have one. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, and I'm j P. Shadrick.
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Speaker 1: Jeff Flagaman coming along shortly. We've got a busy program
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Speaker 1: for you, getting ready for week fifteen, the Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens on the Inner Harbor in Baltimore, Maryland
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Speaker 1: at M and T Bank Stadium. Gardner Minshew gets to
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Speaker 1: start for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Lamar Jackson gets the start
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Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. We'll see what kind of challenge
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Speaker 1: the defense has this week. Tony Vasselli joins us at
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Speaker 1: four thirty today, and then we'll hear from head coach
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Speaker 1: Doug Morone on the Jaguars Radio Network with the Doug
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Speaker 1: own Show at five o'clock sharp this afternoon. Jeff Loguman
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Speaker 1: with us. Now, Good afternoon, Jeff Moran, JP. Where should
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Speaker 1: I say good afternoon? For it's happy all right? I
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Speaker 1: was gonna say, well, the problem I got confused because
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Speaker 1: I have a bloody mary, right, here, and I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 1: That's what happened twelve in a row right to row.
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Speaker 1: So it's what it's well, straight losses now for the Jags,
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Speaker 1: it's not getting any easier, obviously after last week's loss,
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Speaker 1: and now the Jaguars have a couple of players on
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Speaker 1: the reserve COVID nineteen lists this week and Bart added
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Speaker 1: Trey Herndon, Jaguars cornerback. Added there was an earlier scare
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Speaker 1: this year in the practice squad where a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys were out due to contract contact tracing and all that,
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Speaker 1: but too added to the list today and guys that
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Speaker 1: contribute to the Jaguars starters. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I
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Speaker 1: think the jag Ours have been really good so far
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Speaker 1: at trying to minimize the damage that COVID has had,
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Speaker 1: And that's a huge credit to Doug Morown, the staff
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Speaker 1: and also the players. You've had a little bit of
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Speaker 1: an issue with the coaching staff and that you had
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Speaker 1: two weeks to where it affected who was able to
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Speaker 1: coach during the week and also for a game day.
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Speaker 1: But overall, I think they've done a very good job
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Speaker 1: and as long as they can kind of finish it
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Speaker 1: out because there was wide widespread speculation that a lot
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Speaker 1: of teams that would be out of contention, like the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: would have major COVID issues at the end of the season,
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Speaker 1: and that hasn't been the case. So credit to the players,
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Speaker 1: credit to the coaches for keeping it together. Three weeks
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Speaker 1: to go, three games to go, a little over two
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Speaker 1: weeks of real time left, and let's let's get to
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Speaker 1: the finish line of this campaign. The biggest issue this
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Speaker 1: week for the Jacksonville Jaguars, well, the Baltimore Ravens offense.
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Speaker 1: This is a Ravens team that must to win. They
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Speaker 1: are in must win mode down the stretch to stay
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Speaker 1: in the a f C playoff picture. They're right around
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Speaker 1: hovering around the cut line for the playoffs as we speak.
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Speaker 1: They got a big win on Monday night, and it
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Speaker 1: starts with quarterback Lamar Jackson. Today we heard from Jaguars
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Speaker 1: linebacker Miles jack about the challenge ahead with the quarterback
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Speaker 1: really just kind of gotta just just deal with them
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Speaker 1: and and hope he decides to throw instead of run,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And even when he throws,
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Speaker 1: he can still make really good passes. So I mean
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Speaker 1: he's a tough guy, he's he's very talented. Um m
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Speaker 1: v P. Every time you turn on Madden you see him,
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Speaker 1: So I mean, he's he's the real deal, you know,
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Speaker 1: and he's definitely gonna be a challenge for us this week.
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to finally play against him in real life
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Speaker 1: and just watching him do his thing in college and
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Speaker 1: we went up to the preseason and play him when
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Speaker 1: he was young. But um, I'm definitely excited to see,
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Speaker 1: you know, see it in person and play against it. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna get a first hand look Sunday at one o'clock.
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Speaker 1: Log's Lamar and Jackson in the defending m v P
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. I don't know if I
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Speaker 1: would use the term excited to get ready to face
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Speaker 1: Labar Jackson if I'm a linebacker. But nonetheless, you talked
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Speaker 1: about how the Ravens are hovering right around the playoff
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Speaker 1: mark as far as being in contention, and right now
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Speaker 1: there are the eight seed in the a f C
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Speaker 1: and obviously the top seven are going to be in
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Speaker 1: the playoffs ahead of them. They have I believe it's
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Miami and who is the other team? I forget,
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Speaker 1: but this is a must win situation for the Ravens.
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Speaker 1: So look, if you want to get a little taste
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Speaker 1: of playoff football for a football team that's lost both consecutive, well,
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Speaker 1: here you go. You're gonna get it. And uh and
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Speaker 1: the quarterback is amazing. I haven't watched a Monday night
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Speaker 1: football game and its entirety all year. It seems that
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Speaker 1: my eyes start to get a little heavy, and then
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Speaker 1: I have to go to sleep and I end up
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Speaker 1: DVR and it and I watched it the next day
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Speaker 1: if it's worth watching, but I couldn't leave the TV
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Speaker 1: set on my day night. I mean, that was one
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Speaker 1: of the best football games that I've seen all year,
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Speaker 1: the game between Cleveland and Baltimore. And a huge part
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Speaker 1: of that was Lamar Jackson, who left the game with
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Speaker 1: cramps and then he goes to the locker room for
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Speaker 1: a period of time, and obviously he had been dealing
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Speaker 1: with some COVID issues in the weeks prior had to
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Speaker 1: have some type of impact on him. On Monday Night. Well,
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Speaker 1: he comes back after McSorley ends up getting an injured
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Speaker 1: knee and leads the Ravens back to victory. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was unbelievable. He's an amazing talent, and Miles jack
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Speaker 1: and Joe Shoulbert JP have arguably the biggest challenges for
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Speaker 1: anybody in this game, because when you face Lamar Jackson,
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Speaker 1: the read option, the read option pass, all of these
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Speaker 1: gadgets that you have with a quarterback who has running ability,
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Speaker 1: it stresses the linebackers like no other formation or nor
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Speaker 1: no other offensive system can, and it's gonna be a
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Speaker 1: tough challenge for the Jaguars. And Miles Jackie used that
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Speaker 1: term excited man. I'll tell you what I'm glad he
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Speaker 1: is because if it were me, I'd be sitting there
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Speaker 1: going holland the hell are we gonna stop this guy? Right?
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Speaker 1: Because if he pulls it out of the running backs belly,
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Speaker 1: it's not like it takes him a while to get going.
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Speaker 1: He's he's off in a hurry. And even if you
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Speaker 1: have gaps filled, he can make a guy missing a
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Speaker 1: gap and all of a sudden he's running for forty yards. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you know, playing defense is all about gaps, but
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Speaker 1: that's for people that are normal. Lamar Jackson is not normal.
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Speaker 1: And I never thought I would say, but for years
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Speaker 1: of watching Michael Vick I said to myself, the league
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Speaker 1: will never see another player like Michael Vick. I just
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Speaker 1: didn't think it was possible because Michael Vick was so fast,
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Speaker 1: so explosive, soul, electric, And all of a sudden, here
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Speaker 1: comes Lamar Jackson along and and he's shattering what Michael
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Speaker 1: vick had done as far as the numbers go. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it truly is amazing to watch him. And
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Speaker 1: you're right and that gaps necessarily don't matter because you
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Speaker 1: can be in the right apps and all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden he ends up stressing somebody because of his speed.
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Speaker 1: But also when you brushed the quarterback and you've got
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Speaker 1: everybody kind of trying to keep him in the pocket,
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Speaker 1: and you can't have everybody essentially go down the middle
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Speaker 1: on an offensive lineman and say, Okay, we're just gonna
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Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket. We're gonna have responsible rush lanes,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna have a balance rush and it doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: because he just needs just an instant to escape up
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Speaker 1: into the pocket, outside the pocket or whatever he wants
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Speaker 1: to do, and then he's off to the race, and uh,
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Speaker 1: and he is a it's amazing. You know, last year
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Speaker 1: they've shattered the NFL record by over a hundred yards
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Speaker 1: of yards rushing in a season, and uh and they
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Speaker 1: just continue to pile up records. Now, look, the way
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Speaker 1: that you can beat a Lamar Jackson is to find
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Speaker 1: a way to put them in a position to where
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Speaker 1: they have to throw the football to where they're playing
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Speaker 1: from behind. But the Jaguars don't have that kind of
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Speaker 1: offense right now. They're going back to a quarterback that
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Speaker 1: hasn't played and what is it like five six, seven
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Speaker 1: weeks or something like that. So that's a tall task
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Speaker 1: to ask a gardener. Minshew let off. We'll get to
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Speaker 1: the Jags offense and the matchup coming up in a bit,
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Speaker 1: and we're mentioning Lamar Jackson. If you're watching on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: dot com or social media, you're seeing a lot of
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Speaker 1: run game video for the Ravens, including Lamar, but also
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Speaker 1: Gus Edwards and J. K. Dobbins. Mark Ingram is still there,
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Speaker 1: though he's not putting up the huge yardage that he
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Speaker 1: has in his past, He's still a big piece of
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Speaker 1: what they do there. But Edwards and Dobbins, they have
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Speaker 1: a stable of running backs back their lives. They can
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Speaker 1: get the job done too well. Edwards is averaging five
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Speaker 1: yards to carry, Dobbins is averaging five point three yards
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Speaker 1: a carry, And so it's not like they're slouchy this.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not exactly the Cleveland Brown. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: not quite as good as the Cleveland Brown as far
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Speaker 1: as the running back pandem, but they're really good. But
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Speaker 1: the difference here is that the quarterback is just marvelous.
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Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar Jackson is the tenth leading rusher in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean, think about that. A
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Speaker 1: quarterback is the tenth leading rusher in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League and he's averaging like, what is it like six
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Speaker 1: point three yards that carry? Uh. I mean, the numbers
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Speaker 1: are tremendous and the challenge is tremendous and uh and
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything that has stopped him
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Speaker 1: this year, with the exception of a potent offense on
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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Now, for the Jaguars perspective,
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Speaker 1: we mentioned Sholbert and jack and the challenge they have,
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Speaker 1: but just in general, this is has been for weeks
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Speaker 1: a depleted group. Injuries throughout the season have piled up,
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Speaker 1: and now you've got backups to backups in a lot
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Speaker 1: of places out there, a lot of youth on the
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Speaker 1: field right now, and that's just the way it's been
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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars defense. That has to be a challenge
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Speaker 1: logs when you're changing guys we especially like in the
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Speaker 1: secondary for example. I mean, you've got so many guys
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Speaker 1: that have played back there this year. It changes every week. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the numbers being you were talking before before we came
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Speaker 1: on here and you were talking about how many players
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars team has used this year, which is I
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Speaker 1: think the Heist International Football League. But if you want
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Speaker 1: to break it down, for example, by position groups the
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Speaker 1: defensive backfield for the Jaguars and and focusing in on
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Speaker 1: the four positions which are the two corner spots and
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Speaker 1: the two safety spots. You're in a twelve game losing streak,
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Speaker 1: and then you had the first game of the year.
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Speaker 1: So you've got thirteen games. You've had ten different lineups,
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Speaker 1: ten different combinations. And I'm not talking about I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about Look, if you had same combination in week thirteen
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Speaker 1: that you had in week one, that doesn't count us two.
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Speaker 1: That's one. There's been ten different lineup than the secondary
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Speaker 1: and loan for the Jaguars this year. That's that's an amazing,
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Speaker 1: incredible number and it's hard to have consistency. So you
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Speaker 1: kind of roll that into Okay, well, we've also played
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Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. We've also had issues at the defensive line position.
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Speaker 1: We've had to change out some issues with the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: Will Lender being hurt and a j can being hurt.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a lot of change and it's
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Speaker 1: hard to have success when you had that much change.
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Speaker 1: But but to go back two, what are you talking
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Speaker 1: about with the challenge of the linebackers. It's interesting how
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Speaker 1: you're facing a running quarterback can be so challenging because
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Speaker 1: it's a numbers game and a lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: look at it from that perspective, but if you do,
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Speaker 1: I think it helps you understand a little bit. Typically
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Speaker 1: when you're trying to stop an offense, and let's just
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Speaker 1: say that we're playing based defense against the based offense.
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Speaker 1: And you hear people talk about while they played an
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Speaker 1: eight man front on defense to help stop the run. Well,
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Speaker 1: you have an eight man front because the offense with
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Speaker 1: their regular personnel typically has seven blockers and that's five
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, a tight end, and a fullback. There's your seven. Okay,
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Speaker 1: well you're eight. You have four up front, and then
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Speaker 1: you got the three linebackers, and then you got a
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Speaker 1: safety coming up, so you outnumber the offense, and so
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Speaker 1: it gives you a little bit of advantage. But the
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Speaker 1: offense with a running quarterback, all of a sudden, now
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Speaker 1: the tailback also becomes a blocker. So if you're playing
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Speaker 1: an eight man front on defense, and the quarterback can
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Speaker 1: run the football and the tailback can, blocks will out.
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Speaker 1: Now you're playing a run four to five front, but
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Speaker 1: they now also have eight blockers just trying to to
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Speaker 1: block your guys. So it's much more difficult facing a
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Speaker 1: team that has a running quarterback because of the numbers
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Speaker 1: of it. And then also then you add in the
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Speaker 1: fact that, okay, this quarterback can fake it to the
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Speaker 1: running back. Who do I follow? There was a perfect
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Speaker 1: example jp that we're gonna show tonight on Jaguars All
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Speaker 1: Access a little cheap plug and that they faced the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys two weeks ago, and vander Esh the linebacker the
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, thank you very much, Joe and and er
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Speaker 1: Esh fights on the run fake to the running back
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Speaker 1: and he's chasing the running back and he's like ten
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Speaker 1: yards away, and Lamar Jackson is running up the field.
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Speaker 1: He's ten yards down the field and band Rash still
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Speaker 1: doesn't know that the running back doesn't have it. And
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Speaker 1: then another play when Lamar Jackson sticks it into the
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Speaker 1: stomach of the running back, the linebackers suck up, the
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Speaker 1: safety suck up, and then we're worried about the running back,
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Speaker 1: the rory about Lamar Jackson carrying them all, and all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden he pops it back out of there
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Speaker 1: and then he throws it whose wide receiver or tight
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Speaker 1: end for a twenty yard completion. So an incredibly challenging
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Speaker 1: game with a quarterback who has mobility and also an arm.
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Speaker 1: Difficult for the linebackers the defensive lineman. Also difficult for
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Speaker 1: the CBS camera crew as well. We'll see if they
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Speaker 1: can follow those guys with all the fakes in the
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Speaker 1: back field in the run option game. Let's come back
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Speaker 1: in a moment, and hey, we'll get onto the Jaguars offense.
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is back in the starting lineup for the
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Speaker 1: first time since Week seven, coming up at four thirty.
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Speaker 1: Tony Baselli joins us on the program, and then at
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Speaker 1: Jaguars at quarterback. His first starting role for the Jags
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Speaker 1: since Week seven. Week eight was the buy where they
18:41
Speaker 1: found out he had a thumb issue for a few
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Speaker 1: weeks and he has not played since then until the
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you've got a football team
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Speaker 1: whole lot of mania about anything. And I think a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a discouraging part to this is when
19:21
Speaker 1: Minshew came in, there were some opportunities there in the
19:25
Speaker 1: red zone that failed. There were two fourth down throws
19:29
Speaker 1: that the throws by Gardner Minshew were not very good,
19:32
Speaker 1: and to be perfectly honest, the one fourth down play
19:35
Speaker 1: doesn't even give his receiver an opportunity. When it's fourth down,
19:39
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta even risk and interception to make
19:42
Speaker 1: it catchable, but it was overthrown and uncatchable. And then
19:46
Speaker 1: the other one was another fourth down was five yards
19:50
Speaker 1: away from his wide receiver who had zero chances. And
19:55
Speaker 1: uh so I wouldn't term it mania. I would more
19:59
Speaker 1: term it that the Jags are hopeful that they can
20:02
Speaker 1: get a little bit more out of the quarterback position.
20:04
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon did not exactly have a very good outing
20:07
Speaker 1: the other day. He hasn't been great. I don't think
20:09
Speaker 1: in any of his outings that he had the three
20:11
Speaker 1: games that he that he had an opportunity in, he's
20:13
Speaker 1: just been okay. He has pushed the ball downfield a
20:17
Speaker 1: little bit more, And I think that's the big difference
20:18
Speaker 1: that we're gonna see between the previous weeks and now
20:23
Speaker 1: with the team going back to Minshew, is that you
20:25
Speaker 1: won't see the intermediate the deep stuff being attacked as much.
20:29
Speaker 1: At least Mike Lennon tried a lot of those, didn't
20:32
Speaker 1: have a great success, obviously, or otherwise he would still
20:35
Speaker 1: be the starter. But with Gardner Minshew, he doesn't have
20:38
Speaker 1: the accuracy at times to throw the ball down the field.
20:41
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the anticipation or hasn't shown it to
20:44
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. But the one thing
20:47
Speaker 1: that he does do that's very exciting is to make
20:50
Speaker 1: all scheduled plays happen. And all scheduled plays are when
20:53
Speaker 1: he aborts a play or leaves the pocket or he's
20:56
Speaker 1: forced out of the pocket, and then all of a
20:58
Speaker 1: sudden it becomes, for lack of a better term, playground
21:01
Speaker 1: football to where the routes and everything are off the
21:04
Speaker 1: table and now every guy just tried to create and
21:06
Speaker 1: do something himself to get open. And a perfect example
21:10
Speaker 1: that was of that was the I think it was
21:12
Speaker 1: a fourth down completion of Keelan Cole where he adjusted
21:15
Speaker 1: and shook the defender coming across the field when Minshew
21:19
Speaker 1: escaped out to his right towards the Jaguar sideline, and
21:21
Speaker 1: it was a nice play. Uh So we're probably going
21:24
Speaker 1: to see more of that, and and Jay Gruden and
21:26
Speaker 1: Doug Marone talked about this week that they the wide
21:29
Speaker 1: receiver group has to be ready to be able to
21:32
Speaker 1: deal with more off scheduled plays then they have typically
21:36
Speaker 1: dealt with before when Glennan or Luton were at the
21:40
Speaker 1: quarterback spot. And the offensive line has to learn how
21:45
Speaker 1: to do that again too. That can be a really,
21:47
Speaker 1: really quite a challenge for those guys when all of
21:50
Speaker 1: a sudden, gardener, wait a minute, he's running. Now I
21:53
Speaker 1: have to let go of this guy. I can't hold well.
21:57
Speaker 1: And I had that conversation with the Sally, and we
22:01
Speaker 1: could have that conversation with him here coming up. But
22:04
Speaker 1: he he will tell you, be the first to tell
22:06
Speaker 1: you that when you play offensive line, you want a
22:09
Speaker 1: quarterback that's in the pocket, that stays in the pocket,
22:12
Speaker 1: and that trust the pocket. And I'm not saying that
22:14
Speaker 1: the offensive line has been great because they have had
22:17
Speaker 1: some shortcom comings as well, especially when needing to protect
22:20
Speaker 1: the pastor at a critical moment at the end of
22:22
Speaker 1: the ball game. And so, uh, look at it's gonna
22:27
Speaker 1: be hard to protect for anybody because this Ravens team
22:29
Speaker 1: has some very good players. This defense can play football.
22:33
Speaker 1: They play a bunch of different packages, and so you
22:36
Speaker 1: have to get ready for different looks, you have to
22:38
Speaker 1: get ready for different personnel. So and so you're gonna
22:42
Speaker 1: have a challenge from that aspect of it. But then
22:44
Speaker 1: also you add in that Minshew, at times will the
22:47
Speaker 1: board of play and not be where you're protecting you know,
22:49
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman, then it can be very frustrating
22:52
Speaker 1: and then you got to fight off the frustration and
22:55
Speaker 1: and deal with it. But yeah, it's gonna be a
22:57
Speaker 1: little different for the offensive line this week because you know,
23:00
Speaker 1: hear JP and not to cut you off. But you
23:04
Speaker 1: also have to remember something too in that Gardner means
23:08
Speaker 1: you can bail out an offensive line at times if
23:11
Speaker 1: there is an issue, and so that can be a positive.
23:15
Speaker 1: It's not always a negative, it can be a positive.
23:17
Speaker 1: And this week, obviously Lenda going on to I R.
23:21
Speaker 1: Shatley is now going to be the center I'm sure
23:23
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the games, and who's gonna play
23:27
Speaker 1: left guard? Hopefully Norwell is able to come back because
23:29
Speaker 1: he will certainly provide a boost of that offensive line,
23:33
Speaker 1: and he was playing pretty good football prior to the
23:35
Speaker 1: arm injury. So we'll have to see how he looked
23:37
Speaker 1: when he comes back. And it's good that he is
23:39
Speaker 1: coming back because BArch is on the COVID list and
23:42
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how long that will last. But nonetheless,
23:44
Speaker 1: it's good to have the big, the big, mean offensive
23:47
Speaker 1: guard back at his position, and that's Norwell. D Grudin
23:52
Speaker 1: called him big nasty. This week is press conference in fact,
23:56
Speaker 1: so let's hope he's back in the lineup. Speaking of frustration,
23:59
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you could tell earlier in the year
24:01
Speaker 1: that there was some frustration building just with the body
24:04
Speaker 1: language of DJ Chark, the Jaguars wide receiver, and you
24:09
Speaker 1: know it's been a struggle statistically for him as of
24:12
Speaker 1: late as well. Jay Gruden, Jaguar's offensive coordinator, asked about that,
24:16
Speaker 1: and how do you jump and start your receiver down
24:18
Speaker 1: the stretch. J is a great kid, working very hard,
24:23
Speaker 1: and we've tried to target him and it just hasn't happened.
24:25
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's protection issue, whether he's been covered,
24:29
Speaker 1: whether it's been a poor throw um, whatever, you know,
24:32
Speaker 1: it just has not happened. Away. We anticipated it happening
24:36
Speaker 1: in training camp. He had a great training cramp. He's
24:38
Speaker 1: a great player, and uh, you know, we just got
24:40
Speaker 1: to try to continue to figure out ways to get
24:42
Speaker 1: him the ball, whether it's UH in a slot, whether
24:44
Speaker 1: it's outside, whether it's UH in a stack, wherever it
24:47
Speaker 1: might be. We gotta try to figure out ways to
24:49
Speaker 1: getting the ball. And he's got to continue to work
24:51
Speaker 1: on his craft as well. So I think everything goes
24:54
Speaker 1: hand in hand. The production hasn't been really for anybody,
24:57
Speaker 1: uh from a standpoint of what we expect. So we
24:59
Speaker 1: just have continue to demand more and uh hopefully we'll
25:02
Speaker 1: get more. Yeah. And Brewdin also added that it's not
25:06
Speaker 1: just a chart frustration issue. It's and everybody's frustrated issue
25:10
Speaker 1: with everything going on on offense and things just started
25:13
Speaker 1: going as well in the passing game and the changes
25:16
Speaker 1: in quarterbacks and everything happening. It's a lot going on
25:19
Speaker 1: churchs with battling banged up a little bit as the
25:21
Speaker 1: season has gone on. Two logs. But you gotta keep
25:24
Speaker 1: feeding the guy, and uh, he's your best receiver, I say,
25:28
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I mean, it's not a
25:31
Speaker 1: matter of feeding him. It's a matter of DJ getting
25:34
Speaker 1: open and having it thrown to him. I mean, that's
25:39
Speaker 1: the one thing I will say this past game, DJ
25:41
Speaker 1: didn't get the separation that was needed to be able
25:44
Speaker 1: to get the catches that he wants or that they
25:46
Speaker 1: want to get him. Uh. Malcolm Butler did a very
25:50
Speaker 1: good job in covering him, and so credit the defender
25:53
Speaker 1: for for doing a good job. And DJ, I don't
25:56
Speaker 1: know if he's still ailing he's dealt with some injuries
25:59
Speaker 1: this year, and is that still bothering him maybe because
26:03
Speaker 1: I can tell you this that watching DJ in person
26:07
Speaker 1: and and watching DJ on film, I didn't see the
26:11
Speaker 1: DJ that I've seen in the past where you find
26:14
Speaker 1: out that he's open on a lot of places and
26:16
Speaker 1: he's not getting the ball. So I think when Gruden's
26:19
Speaker 1: talking there and he's saying, hey, look, we need to
26:21
Speaker 1: get on the ball, you're just I think it's I'm
26:24
Speaker 1: not trying to be politically correct, but he's trying to say, hey, look,
26:27
Speaker 1: we do need to get our good players the ball.
26:29
Speaker 1: But he also said that DJ needs to continue to
26:31
Speaker 1: work on his craft, and that's very true, and I
26:34
Speaker 1: think sometimes you get into a little bit of a
26:37
Speaker 1: bad spot. I think when you continue to talk about
26:40
Speaker 1: how we need to get him the ball, we need
26:42
Speaker 1: to get in the ball, because then you're you're changing
26:45
Speaker 1: the mindset of a quarterback and also of an offense,
26:49
Speaker 1: and that it becomes about getting him the ball instead
26:52
Speaker 1: of allowing us to be successful. And I think coaches
26:55
Speaker 1: need to sometimes say, you know, we need to get
26:57
Speaker 1: the ball to people that can that can that are open,
27:00
Speaker 1: and that can win at that DJ, great, If that's
27:03
Speaker 1: Keelan Cole, that's great. We need to utlize all of
27:05
Speaker 1: our weapons. I think that I would rather hear that
27:08
Speaker 1: in that situation that we need to keep beating DJ.
27:10
Speaker 1: We need to find him when you get him more involved,
27:12
Speaker 1: when you get involved early, because you hear a lot
27:14
Speaker 1: of that talk and and uh, and look at the reality. JP.
27:18
Speaker 1: When you originally brought this up, you talked about some
27:20
Speaker 1: frustration earlier in the year with Gardner Minshew, and you
27:23
Speaker 1: mentioned DJ, and yes you saw frustration, but it wasn't
27:27
Speaker 1: just from DJ. It was from Keelan Cole. It was
27:30
Speaker 1: from DJ and UH and you could and it was
27:33
Speaker 1: very clear that the body language wasn't really positive towards
27:36
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. And I think the reason for that is
27:39
Speaker 1: when plays get aboarded and the guy is open, the
27:42
Speaker 1: receiver wants the quarterback to stay in there and throw
27:45
Speaker 1: the ball to an open receiver instead of to scramble
27:48
Speaker 1: around and then do something different out of the plays designed.
27:51
Speaker 1: So um Gardner Minshew has obviously got to, I think,
27:56
Speaker 1: earned the respect and trust of his players once again.
28:00
Speaker 1: And and that's by performing, and that's that's what happens
28:03
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. You have to continue to
28:06
Speaker 1: get the respect by performing. And Mitch you hasn't played
28:09
Speaker 1: in a while, and uh and here he has an
28:12
Speaker 1: opportunity to get that and turned that back from the players.
28:16
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32:43
Speaker 1: back in the saddle again. Gardnermentshore, the second Jaguars quarterback,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour. Dapy Shadrick, Jeff Logaman
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32:57
Speaker 1: us now in the second half the program. Are you
33:01
Speaker 1: feeling Minshew mania again, Tony? Um? Sure, yeah, he's back. Boy. Well,
33:15
Speaker 1: I'm not really trying to sell anyone on anything. I mean,
33:19
Speaker 1: he's back. I didn't I'll say JP, we said it
33:22
Speaker 1: on Monday night. I mean, I love Love's reaction. I'm
33:25
Speaker 1: sure he's already given it. I didn't see anything at
33:28
Speaker 1: the end in the second half of that game, when
33:29
Speaker 1: he played the majority of it that made me think
33:34
Speaker 1: there's the answer, like, you know, he's back. Um, nothing,
33:39
Speaker 1: but not taking a shot at him or say anything.
33:41
Speaker 1: I mean, we've gone through three quarterbacks now, and those
33:45
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks have together, I've lost been a part of
33:48
Speaker 1: the lost it themselves, but have been a part of
33:50
Speaker 1: twelve freight losses. And and if you look at the
33:54
Speaker 1: sample size that we saw in the second quarter in
33:56
Speaker 1: second half last week, it was against it. The game
33:58
Speaker 1: was pretty much out of hand. I thought that Titans defense,
34:02
Speaker 1: you know how they were playing, and you know the
34:05
Speaker 1: Gardner take what they gave him, Yes, and he's does
34:08
Speaker 1: he give you more opportunities using his legs? Absolutely? Um.
34:13
Speaker 1: But then there's also couldn't finish driving the red zone.
34:15
Speaker 1: We saw some very inaccurate passes. I mean there's a
34:18
Speaker 1: number of things now, is there? Rust sure? You know?
34:20
Speaker 1: Is he getting all the reps that he probably will
34:22
Speaker 1: this week? Absolutely not so. Um, he's gonna be the
34:25
Speaker 1: starter Doug obviously, and the staff leaeve. He gives him
34:28
Speaker 1: the best chance of winning. I believe, I trust that.
34:30
Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. But if you're expecting
34:33
Speaker 1: me to get my pomp pomps out and start cheering
34:36
Speaker 1: and doing you know, backflips, I'm not quite there. Come on, man,
34:41
Speaker 1: where's your two pomp pomps, Tony? Come on? Definitely? I mean,
34:46
Speaker 1: are you gonna say anything different? No? No, no, no,
34:49
Speaker 1: already already. So but I think if he I think
34:56
Speaker 1: he will be will give a level of excitement because
35:01
Speaker 1: of the all scheduled part of it. But but the
35:04
Speaker 1: on schedule, the intermediate to deep ros and and a
35:07
Speaker 1: lot of people may listen to what I'm saying about
35:09
Speaker 1: deep ros and and kind of misunderstand what I'm saying.
35:13
Speaker 1: Like Gardner Minshew can throw a go route, which is
35:16
Speaker 1: you know, receiver running vertically and he throws it up
35:19
Speaker 1: and the receiver runs underneath of and he catches it.
35:22
Speaker 1: But what Gardner doesn't and hasn't done very well this
35:25
Speaker 1: year is when he has to stand in the pocket
35:28
Speaker 1: and he has to hit a timing route that's fifteen
35:31
Speaker 1: yards down the field or a timing route that's eighteen
35:35
Speaker 1: yards down the field, and he has to throw it
35:37
Speaker 1: into a window and anticipate it and make throw well
35:41
Speaker 1: before he you know, you actually can see it with
35:43
Speaker 1: your own eyes. He knows that it's going to happen.
35:45
Speaker 1: But those those are the parts where he struggles. He
35:48
Speaker 1: can throw a deep ball, vertical go route, but it's
35:50
Speaker 1: the intermediate to deep stuff that's timing that requires a
35:53
Speaker 1: throw that has more of a line drive type look
35:56
Speaker 1: to it as opposed to the rainbow stuff. So you know,
36:00
Speaker 1: it's look, I'm I'm not trying to down the guy
36:03
Speaker 1: or anything like that, and kind of along the same
36:05
Speaker 1: lines of Tony. But this is, uh, this is gonna
36:09
Speaker 1: be a tough go against the Ravens defense that's playing
36:11
Speaker 1: pretty well, that plays a lot of different looks and uh,
36:15
Speaker 1: and they get the practice against the quarterback who abandons
36:17
Speaker 1: on the word plays all the time, so they're gonna
36:20
Speaker 1: be ready for that and Tony, I got a quick
36:23
Speaker 1: question for you about the off schedule type quarterback. How
36:28
Speaker 1: much of a challenge is that for an offensive line
36:30
Speaker 1: when all of a sudden, Hey, wait a minute, the
36:33
Speaker 1: quarterbacks running past me. Now I need to let go
36:36
Speaker 1: of this guy. Yeah, I mean, I think it's difficult
36:39
Speaker 1: in the sense that you don't you know, you don't
36:41
Speaker 1: really know where the launch point is. Um. I mean,
36:44
Speaker 1: if you have a pure pocket list, think of Tom
36:46
Speaker 1: Brady or Drew Brees or you know, go down to
36:50
Speaker 1: list the guy going to be in the pocket and
36:54
Speaker 1: they're at UM, you can you can gauge the angle
36:57
Speaker 1: of the rusher and everything else is gonna get a
36:58
Speaker 1: game play. What you want to do, I gift to
37:00
Speaker 1: approach it the same way, even with a guy that's
37:01
Speaker 1: gonna escape, because you can't plan for the escape. You
37:04
Speaker 1: can't plan for the off schedule play. That's why it's
37:06
Speaker 1: called off schedule UM. But you just have to be
37:08
Speaker 1: aware of you gotta block through the whistle and continue
37:10
Speaker 1: to try to use good technique and understand if you
37:14
Speaker 1: can react fast enough when that guy runs by you
37:16
Speaker 1: outside the pocket, lest safe the left hackle. He escapes
37:18
Speaker 1: left and that guy starts releasing away from you. You
37:22
Speaker 1: gotta let go UM, and that's where some holding penalties
37:25
Speaker 1: can take place. Now you're talking about two different dudes
37:29
Speaker 1: when you're talking comparing Lamar Jackson off schedule plays and
37:32
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Gardner Minshew can't extend plays and he can
37:35
Speaker 1: use his legs to pick up first downs. UM, the
37:37
Speaker 1: off schedule plays for Lamar Jackson or seventy or touchdowns.
37:41
Speaker 1: UM in the sense that he takes off of his
37:43
Speaker 1: legs and he's the fast guy on the field. Looks
37:45
Speaker 1: like a video game out there. So UM, two different,
37:47
Speaker 1: two different dudes in that sense. But there is a
37:49
Speaker 1: challenge whether it's Lamar Jackson or Gardner Minshew UM for
37:54
Speaker 1: an offensive linement, not knowing exactly where the launch point
37:56
Speaker 1: is gonna be and where that quarterback is gonna be
38:01
Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson. Now a little more on the Ravens
38:04
Speaker 1: quarterback and that. We were talking earlier at Logs and
38:07
Speaker 1: I about the run game in Baltimore, and it's you know,
38:11
Speaker 1: we obviously have seen running games the last few weeks.
38:13
Speaker 1: The Browns can run at the Titans can run it.
38:16
Speaker 1: The Ravens have a stable of running backs when you
38:18
Speaker 1: add that running quarterback option into it, it just changes
38:22
Speaker 1: the whole dynamic of everything. Tony Well, I'm pretty sure
38:27
Speaker 1: the stat was, and keep me honest here, Jeff, I
38:30
Speaker 1: think it was. It was they had scored twenty eight
38:32
Speaker 1: points and they had thrown the ball six times against
38:38
Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean unreal. And you literally have the
38:42
Speaker 1: best athlete on the field playing quarterback for the Ravens.
38:46
Speaker 1: And it's not this like, hey, he's gonna go his
38:48
Speaker 1: zone read and he could take it a ten fifteen
38:51
Speaker 1: yard run and he's gonna slide down. He could take
38:54
Speaker 1: his own read and be gone for and he's gonna
38:59
Speaker 1: cut back and he's gonna make people miss. And he's
39:02
Speaker 1: a he's a running back when he has the ball. Um.
39:05
Speaker 1: And so it's a huge challenge because you know, how
39:08
Speaker 1: do you you know, the goal would be saying, hey,
39:10
Speaker 1: let's keep him in the pocket. You can't because he's
39:13
Speaker 1: faster than everyone rushing him and he can just get
39:15
Speaker 1: outside and take off. Um. You know, how do we
39:19
Speaker 1: force him to throw the ball. Well, it's hard, um,
39:22
Speaker 1: because he is gonna run whatever he wants and they
39:25
Speaker 1: have such a powerful running attack. A lot of times
39:26
Speaker 1: they're ahead of the chain so they don't have to
39:28
Speaker 1: drop back and pass the formula to beat the Ravens
39:31
Speaker 1: and to put pressure on the mar Jackson in this
39:33
Speaker 1: offense is to get him out of what they want
39:35
Speaker 1: to do. And the only way you can do that
39:37
Speaker 1: is to get a couple score lead and you have
39:39
Speaker 1: to put pressure on them to play catch up. That's
39:42
Speaker 1: what they struggled over the last several years is when
39:44
Speaker 1: they have to play catch up. And so this team
39:47
Speaker 1: has had a time, Yeah, they've had The Jags have
39:51
Speaker 1: had the double digit lead one time in this NFL season.
39:54
Speaker 1: So they have to do something for the second time
39:57
Speaker 1: um this week against the Ravens if they want to
39:59
Speaker 1: make Lamar Jackson uncomfortable. Not not not not an easy
40:04
Speaker 1: matchup for anybody, I mean even even the elite teams
40:07
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and extremely difficult for for
40:12
Speaker 1: a team of like Jaguars that are struggling and very
40:15
Speaker 1: young and and Lamar Jackson is so fast. When you
40:19
Speaker 1: when you watch the game this weekend, I'm sure it's
40:22
Speaker 1: gonna happen. And it's just because he's that good. Miles
40:26
Speaker 1: jack is one of the fastest linebackers that plays the game.
40:29
Speaker 1: I mean, he can run down people like nobody's business.
40:34
Speaker 1: Just watch and see what Lamar Jackson looks like compared
40:38
Speaker 1: to a Miles jack when given the opportunity, and because
40:42
Speaker 1: that ought to give people an idea of how fast
40:44
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's nobody, nobody hardly ever runs away. I don't
40:47
Speaker 1: think I've seen a running back or a quarterback ever
40:51
Speaker 1: run away from Miles and uh and this quarterback in
40:56
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can do that. Here's one for you guys.
41:01
Speaker 1: If the Ravens win out, get the playoffs and make
41:06
Speaker 1: this run and Lamar has a big stretch run here,
41:10
Speaker 1: could he win the m v P again, Tony No, No,
41:13
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so. Yeah. I think
41:16
Speaker 1: that's out of the question just because of how they
41:17
Speaker 1: played in the middle of the season. I mean, I think,
41:20
Speaker 1: really the m v P races the three. It's the
41:23
Speaker 1: three horse race right now. It's Aaron Rodgers to Patrick Mahomes.
41:27
Speaker 1: Those are the favorites. I do think Derrick Henry if
41:30
Speaker 1: he can, if he runs off, you know, a couple
41:32
Speaker 1: of hundred fifty games and gets over two thousand yards
41:35
Speaker 1: for the season, I think he'll get consideration. Um, but
41:38
Speaker 1: he is definitely the third third guy in that race. UM,
41:42
Speaker 1: And so right now I would agree with Jeff. It's
41:45
Speaker 1: mainly two guys in Homes at Rogers. The closest third
41:48
Speaker 1: is Derrick Henry. You got you gotta do something crazy
41:54
Speaker 1: special as a running back to be involved in the
41:57
Speaker 1: m v P coms conversation. And look, Derrick Henry, it,
42:00
Speaker 1: like Tony said, if all sudden, he does rip off
42:02
Speaker 1: a couple two yard games and as dominant and leads
42:06
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans to uh tremendous finish to the season
42:11
Speaker 1: and then also on Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes struggle.
42:14
Speaker 1: Those things are not very likely though, but if that
42:16
Speaker 1: were to happened, then he would have a chance of
42:18
Speaker 1: being the m v P. But but right now, JP,
42:20
Speaker 1: holy cow, Patrick Mahomes and and Aaron Rodgers, I mean,
42:23
Speaker 1: those two guys are are lights out playing well. And
42:28
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where the good teams
42:31
Speaker 1: really rise up and play big and big moments. And
42:34
Speaker 1: we'll see with three weeks before before we go to break, Jeff,
42:38
Speaker 1: did you see I mean mentioned Patrick Mahomes And this
42:41
Speaker 1: is off topic of the Jaguars. Are this Ravens game um,
42:45
Speaker 1: but Jeff Forever has said that Patrick Mahomes was the
42:48
Speaker 1: best quarterback college quarterback he ever saw on tape. Sean
42:51
Speaker 1: Payton came out this week for the Saints head coach
42:53
Speaker 1: and said Patrick Mahomes had the greatest workout he'd ever
42:57
Speaker 1: seen of any college quarterback. So Logs and good company
43:01
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton as far as evaluating quarterbacks. Yeah, I
43:05
Speaker 1: saw that that was pretty cool. Logs will be a
43:11
Speaker 1: bit more excited than that. Let's go back. Let's trying
43:15
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43:19
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43:21
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43:23
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47:20
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47:23
Speaker 1: I hope you know you know that they're doing well.
47:26
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean personally and everything, and and I
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47:40
Speaker 1: there's always the competitiveness, you know what I'm saying, where
47:44
Speaker 1: you do always want to play well, you know what
47:45
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47:47
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47:50
Speaker 1: respect for those guys. I mean, um, I mean, you
47:53
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47:57
Speaker 1: a building than those two. Head coach Doug Marone discussing
48:02
Speaker 1: Calias Campbell and Unique In Dockway, now members of the
48:06
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. The Jaguars faced the Ravens Sunday at M
48:10
Speaker 1: and T Bank Stadium on the Inner Harbor. Welcome back
48:13
Speaker 1: to Jaguars, Happy our JP, Shadrick, Jeff Lagman and Tony
48:17
Speaker 1: Basselli and yeah, Klias Campbell battling a little bit of
48:21
Speaker 1: a calf issue. He has twenty seven tackles this year,
48:24
Speaker 1: four sacks, ten quarterback hits five tackles for loss and
48:29
Speaker 1: we know the Unike and Dockway story traded to the Vikings,
48:33
Speaker 1: who then traded him to the Ravens, and he is
48:37
Speaker 1: has not done a lot statistically since showing up in Baltimore.
48:40
Speaker 1: But you know loves that those guys will be fired
48:43
Speaker 1: up and ready to go. And as Gardner Minshew said
48:46
Speaker 1: this week, Unike and Dockway might be out for blood
48:49
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Well, he might be, but the reality is
48:54
Speaker 1: he hasn't been very good for the Ravens so far.
48:57
Speaker 1: He had five sacks for the Vikings, He's got one
48:59
Speaker 1: sack with the Ravens. And uh watching the film on
49:03
Speaker 1: him and I'm sure Tony has done the same thing.
49:05
Speaker 1: He's been unimpressive of the last couple of games. Calais
49:10
Speaker 1: looks like he's battling back from two things. One, the
49:13
Speaker 1: calf injury that clearly has affected him doesn't likely. He
49:17
Speaker 1: looks like he doesn't have a lot of push off
49:19
Speaker 1: a lot of power, and he's kind of catching a
49:22
Speaker 1: little bit, which would indicate a calf injury that is
49:25
Speaker 1: not allowing him to push. And the other thing, too,
49:28
Speaker 1: is that Calais said this is said that Clay the
49:31
Speaker 1: COVID nine team battle was tough, and he's still trying
49:35
Speaker 1: to get his win back from him having COVID. So
49:41
Speaker 1: that's two. It's never easy to come back from an injury,
49:44
Speaker 1: but then all of a sudden, you have an injury
49:45
Speaker 1: then a virus that has impacted you. That's got to
49:48
Speaker 1: be tough. But I think both guys obviously want to
49:51
Speaker 1: play well against the Jaguars, but you all of a
49:53
Speaker 1: sudden can't turn into Superman if you haven't been Superman
49:56
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. I um, yeah, I mean,
50:01
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, you are what you are
50:06
Speaker 1: during the season based on how you performed and what
50:08
Speaker 1: the film says, not what you did in the past. Um,
50:11
Speaker 1: and listen, Clais Campbell is a very good player. He
50:15
Speaker 1: had and he had a great stint with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
50:18
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. But for all the reasons
50:20
Speaker 1: you just talked about, Um, is he still a good player? Absolutely?
50:24
Speaker 1: Is he the dominant player that we remember him as
50:27
Speaker 1: when he was at his height here, No, he's not.
50:30
Speaker 1: Um And you know you unique is a guy that
50:34
Speaker 1: you know similar to in the sense of the he's
50:36
Speaker 1: a he's a finesse rusher and that's what he is.
50:39
Speaker 1: And um, it'll be interesting to see the matchup between
50:42
Speaker 1: him and Cam Robinson. UM. I guarantee Unique wants to
50:46
Speaker 1: prove that there was a big mistake and he's gonna
50:49
Speaker 1: give his best and Cam's gonna have to set right
50:52
Speaker 1: and and do some right things because if he opens
50:54
Speaker 1: up and leans a little bit, Unique will get him
50:57
Speaker 1: with that chopp a jump chop that he has. So, UM,
51:01
Speaker 1: you know, both those guys are gonna be ready to
51:04
Speaker 1: go and they're going to try to put their best,
51:06
Speaker 1: their best foot forward. Yeah, the numbers JP on these
51:11
Speaker 1: two guys are tremendous. In Gogway obviously four years with
51:14
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, thirty seven and a half sacks, tremendous number
51:18
Speaker 1: and a tremendous amount of force fumbles as well. He
51:21
Speaker 1: has been a tomahawk chopping, crazy pass rusher and klais
51:27
Speaker 1: in three years with the Jaguar one and a half sacks.
51:30
Speaker 1: I mean, that's unbelievable and arguably one of the best
51:34
Speaker 1: Jaguar defenders in history, even though he only played for
51:37
Speaker 1: three years. He would definitely go up into that list
51:41
Speaker 1: if I was putting that list together, and I think
51:43
Speaker 1: the most important thing about calais one of the greatest
51:46
Speaker 1: guys I've ever met, one of the greatest players I've
51:50
Speaker 1: ever watch, And you put those two together. I mean,
51:52
Speaker 1: that's exactly what you're you're always trying to find. I
51:55
Speaker 1: think in personnel is to find those type of guys
51:58
Speaker 1: that can lead your football team and be the example
52:01
Speaker 1: for your football team going forward. And I think there's
52:03
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that learned a lot from Klais
52:05
Speaker 1: Campbell here in Jacksonville. It will be interesting, though, I
52:10
Speaker 1: mean we'll be talking about it, Jeff, you know that.
52:13
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be a part of the whip. I
52:15
Speaker 1: guarantee you that opening and early in that game, and
52:18
Speaker 1: probably for most of it. I know, I for one,
52:21
Speaker 1: it will be hard not to watch and see what
52:22
Speaker 1: Place is doing and watch the matchup between Unique and
52:25
Speaker 1: camp Robinson. To me, these are guys that were part
52:27
Speaker 1: of this organization for a long time. Um left for
52:30
Speaker 1: different reasons this year. Um, and we're both I think both,
52:36
Speaker 1: you know, especially Clays, we're fan favorites and people the
52:40
Speaker 1: fans didn't want to see leave. So it's gonna be
52:43
Speaker 1: much you know, a lot of attention on it, a
52:45
Speaker 1: lot of attention on it of the year, Yeah, yeah,
52:53
Speaker 1: but which is a tremendous honor and it just goes
52:55
Speaker 1: to show you the quality guy that Calais is. But
52:57
Speaker 1: it was interesting that the jack Wars traded in Gockway
53:01
Speaker 1: and then the Minnesota Vikings turned around and traded him
53:04
Speaker 1: to the Ravens and didn't get what they paid the
53:07
Speaker 1: Jaguars for, and which is kind of surprising because that
53:12
Speaker 1: he had five sacks with the Minnesota Vikings before they
53:14
Speaker 1: decided to trade him. So pretty interesting right there. And uh,
53:19
Speaker 1: I was not a very big fan of the Klais trade.
53:21
Speaker 1: I think they got a fifth round pick for him.
53:23
Speaker 1: In my mind, that was an absolute mistake and that
53:27
Speaker 1: you keep a guy like Lais Camble around just just
53:30
Speaker 1: to be in the locker room to help quote unquote
53:33
Speaker 1: raise guys the right way in the NFL culture. And uh,
53:37
Speaker 1: And I know that there's a lot of Jaguar fans
53:39
Speaker 1: that were very upset when they let him go, but uh,
53:42
Speaker 1: he was one of many that were let go after
53:44
Speaker 1: this past year. So there you have it. Oh, by
53:48
Speaker 1: the way, the Jaguars did have a transaction just a
53:51
Speaker 1: little bit ago, they have placed linebacker Comally Korea on
53:55
Speaker 1: the team's exempt left squad list, the club announced, so
54:00
Speaker 1: he's no longer on the football team and other change
54:03
Speaker 1: logs to add on the defensive side. Well, and and
54:07
Speaker 1: interesting to me why, I mean, I don't know if
54:11
Speaker 1: you leave a team, obviously there's some personal reasons there,
54:14
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to speculate as to what that is.
54:17
Speaker 1: But Joe Giles Harris has done a pretty good job
54:20
Speaker 1: playing that sam linebacking position. Got his first career sacked
54:24
Speaker 1: this past week and did a good job with that.
54:26
Speaker 1: But overall he's been playing pretty well. So I don't
54:31
Speaker 1: know if k had lost a job, I mean, I
54:36
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to speculate, but the Jaguars
54:39
Speaker 1: are okay at that position. But once again, now you're
54:41
Speaker 1: you're starting to lose depth and lose players, I mean
54:44
Speaker 1: this defense, and they've been dealing with that all year long. Yeah,
54:49
Speaker 1: I saw that. It was an interesting designation. Um And
54:56
Speaker 1: to just point, we don't know the whole story about
54:58
Speaker 1: why and how and what the back store is, so
55:03
Speaker 1: no reason to speculate. But I was a little bit
55:05
Speaker 1: surprised to see it, Yeah, and we'll see what other
55:09
Speaker 1: moves there could be. Also, the injury report came out today.
55:12
Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford didn't practice yesterday with the quatt iss you
55:15
Speaker 1: limited today. Sydney Jones limited yesterday with the achilles issue,
55:20
Speaker 1: did not practice today. So there you go. Another cornerback
55:25
Speaker 1: notable there that did not practice today. And it's gonna
55:29
Speaker 1: be one of those weeks with another with Tray Herndon
55:31
Speaker 1: on the COVID list now and Sydney Jones not practicing today,
55:35
Speaker 1: We'll see what Friday holds. But that's more changes looks. Yeah,
55:40
Speaker 1: I don't know what the status is obviously, because when
55:43
Speaker 1: a player goes on the COVID list, they could have
55:45
Speaker 1: tested positive, they could have been around somebody. If Trey
55:49
Speaker 1: Herndon was positive, obviously he's not going to be available
55:51
Speaker 1: for the game this week. But if he was just
55:53
Speaker 1: around somebody who was, then he could be available this week.
55:57
Speaker 1: So and they don't release that information, you don't get
56:00
Speaker 1: that information. So that will be interesting to see what
56:03
Speaker 1: happens with there. With that, and in Sydney Jones of
56:07
Speaker 1: not having him available practice day, that that's a little concerning.
56:10
Speaker 1: He's been a pretty good football player when he's been available,
56:13
Speaker 1: and uh, I thought, you're gonna get him back in
56:15
Speaker 1: the line up for the rest of the year, but
56:17
Speaker 1: maybe not, So we have to kind of wait and see.
56:19
Speaker 1: But if they in fact have to go to some
56:22
Speaker 1: other people, that could end up being the eleven different
56:26
Speaker 1: lineup in the Jaguar secondary in the season, which is
56:30
Speaker 1: an amazing number. It's just it's crazy when you think
56:34
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, when you say that, it's nuts.
56:36
Speaker 1: And Jeffrey, you think back to the game last week
56:39
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, late in that fourth quarter, Sidney
56:42
Speaker 1: Jones wasn't playing either, And I wonder if it's something
56:44
Speaker 1: aggregated in the game, um, and they took him out
56:48
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, if it's just it's carried over
56:51
Speaker 1: from then there, um, So that that's definitely a concern.
56:55
Speaker 1: Eleven different secondary lineups, I mean, that's that's almost earn't
57:01
Speaker 1: heard of. Really, I've never never seen that. It's something else.
57:09
Speaker 1: And and we'll ask Doug about this coming up on
57:11
Speaker 1: the Doug Moron Show in a few minutes. But seventy
57:14
Speaker 1: nine different players have touched the field this year for
57:16
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. It's the most in the NFL. This year.
57:19
Speaker 1: It's the most enfranchise history for a single season, and
57:23
Speaker 1: it's the second most in the league since that's as
57:27
Speaker 1: far as the stat goes back on the official league site,
57:30
Speaker 1: only the Dolphins had more players play in a season.
57:34
Speaker 1: Last year they had eighty four players seventy nine different guys,
57:38
Speaker 1: and it could be eighty or eighty one depending on
57:40
Speaker 1: what happens this week. Yeah, there's crazy time left. It's
57:46
Speaker 1: still still time to go, so a lot of change.
57:49
Speaker 1: We'll see how Doug has to have managed that over
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Speaker 1: the last few weeks with all the change. Can't be easy. Certainly,
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Speaker 1: we're a head coach, so Tony, we've got three weeks
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Speaker 1: to go and still three weeks to try to go
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Speaker 1: get that winning result and and snap this awful, awful
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Speaker 1: losing skid. Yeah, I think this is a tough week.
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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about what tough matchup, but then
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Speaker 1: we talked about Lamar Jackson, talked about good defense that
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Speaker 1: they have. They're aggressive, they have good players in that
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. Get more injuries, you know, hopefully
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Speaker 1: Gardner gives them a little bit of juice to change,
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Speaker 1: you know, get something going. But I think it's it's
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Speaker 1: a tough task for go on the road. You're playing
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Speaker 1: a team that is in a must win situation to
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Speaker 1: stay in the playoffs and to keep paying. So um,
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Speaker 1: it's a big mountain to climb, but hopefully they climb it.
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Speaker 1: Ju and Tony. Hopefully James Robinson has a big day.
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Speaker 1: That would solve a lot of issues. It would take
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Speaker 1: pressure off of Guarden Mitshew and keep Lamar Jackson on
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Speaker 1: the sideline. It would be nice for James Robins said
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Speaker 1: to make some headway towards breaking Fred Taylor's rookie Russian record. Agreed,
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Speaker 1: All right, Tony, we will talk to you on Sunday. Tony,
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Speaker 1: have a good one. See you guys. Tony Boselli out
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Speaker 1: of here. The Doug Brone shows right around the corner.
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Speaker 1: Our thanks to our entire crew, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reaver
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Speaker 1: back at the stadium, Tony Basselli and Jeff Logman. The
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Speaker 1: head coach coming up in just a few moments. Interested
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Speaker 1: to hear his take on this matchup this weekend, the
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Speaker 1: week of work and all the changes the Jags have
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Speaker 1: been through really over the past few months, three weeks
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Speaker 1: ago and the regular season. That'll do it for Jaguars
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