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Chuck & Buck 11-4 Hour 3: Gene Steratore, Everett Fitzhugh and we have finalists! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: It's time for Checking Buck's weekly visit with former NFL
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  Speaker 1: and I ninety near the stadiums now with Gene Sterotor,
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  Speaker 1: here's Checking Bump.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, every Tuesday we get a chance to chat with
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  Speaker 3: CBS rules analysts and the greatest NFL official of all time,
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  Speaker 3: Jeane Sterotor, but also an outstanding college basketball official as well.
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  Speaker 3: And I was wondering, like we started the show today,
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  Speaker 3: Gene talking about how every sport in the world was
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  Speaker 3: played yesterday, it felt like every single one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever officiated anything other than college basketball and
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  Speaker 3: the National Football League? Have you done highlie? Have you
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  Speaker 3: done bowling? I mean, what other sports? Are you an expert.
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  Speaker 2: At the bowling thing?
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  Speaker 4: Intrigue a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I think I might look into the bowling thing.
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  Speaker 5: I always wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Be the net referee too in volleyball. I mean standing
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  Speaker 2: on the step ladder there on your little platform and
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  Speaker 2: just making the point left or right. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: was kind of a neat job. But you know, no,
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  Speaker 2: I stayed in my lane and just messed up two
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  Speaker 2: sports in America.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I just stayed with football.
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  Speaker 3: I would love for a challenge flag to be thrown
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  Speaker 3: by some bowler, like because you said he stepped his
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  Speaker 3: foot over the line. Red challenge flag comes out, he
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  Speaker 3: throws his nachos in the air. That's his challenge flag.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be great. Well, good to have you. Thanks for
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  Speaker 3: being with us again. We got a lot of ground
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  Speaker 3: to cover. So I want to start with college football
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  Speaker 3: with you. Because there was a play in the Ohio
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  Speaker 3: State Penn State game on Saturday where and I don't
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  Speaker 3: even like the targeting rules that they use in college football.
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  Speaker 3: I don't like that rule where it hangs over until
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  Speaker 3: the next day and the player has to walk off
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  Speaker 3: the field in shame, and usually it's pretty close to
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  Speaker 3: being a solid hit, and yet we treat him like
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  Speaker 3: he's a felon as he goes off the field. I
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  Speaker 3: don't like it. But if that hit by Caleb Downs
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  Speaker 3: isn't targeting, then I guess I don't understand the rules
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  Speaker 3: of college football. And so they did assess a fifteen
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  Speaker 3: yard penalty for roughing, but he looked like he launched
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  Speaker 3: his face into the other guy's face. Even Caleb downs
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  Speaker 3: Gene thought that his goose was cooked and that he
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  Speaker 3: was gonna miss the rest of the game. In the
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  Speaker 3: half of the second game, so what did you see?
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  Speaker 3: How on earth could the officials have overturned their initial
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  Speaker 3: feeling that that was targeting?
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  Speaker 2: You know what, for me, those players are almost impossible
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  Speaker 2: to defend, right, I mean, you do have to look
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  Speaker 2: at the scenario. And I listen, I don't disagree with
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  Speaker 2: you at all on the impunitive level of.
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  Speaker 4: You know, of targeting.
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  Speaker 2: I think we all kind of know, those of us
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  Speaker 2: that love to watch the.
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  Speaker 4: Game and have watched it for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: When there's an action that looks like, you know what, No,
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  Speaker 2: he needs to go, he needs to be ejected, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then and then there's that
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  Speaker 2: other window where I understand why you want to implement
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  Speaker 2: these rules because we do want to do you know,
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  Speaker 2: we want to get the player to be as safe
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  Speaker 2: as he can. And many times those hits are more
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  Speaker 2: dangerous to the player than the recipient of that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the person that's giving it. So we're going to increase
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  Speaker 2: the level of punishment to deter the action as they
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  Speaker 2: evolve into their mechanics. But I still think there are
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  Speaker 2: good football plays where look, if you want that to
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  Speaker 2: be a file, that's fine, make it fifteen in an
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  Speaker 2: automatic first down. But the ejection from the third quarter
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  Speaker 2: into the first and second quarters of the next game
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  Speaker 2: I think is too much for his With that said,
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  Speaker 2: I think the behavior that we saw on the hit
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  Speaker 2: you're referring to, those are ejectable offenses. Those are plays
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  Speaker 2: we don't want to see in.
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  Speaker 4: The game for anybody at any time, and.
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  Speaker 2: To me, that meets the letter of the law. I
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  Speaker 2: think what we're also doing in replay is we are
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  Speaker 2: maybe micro analyzing, now, did the shoulder just touched the
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  Speaker 2: shoulder pad initially and then the next contact was to
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  Speaker 2: the head and neck area. We can see that by
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  Speaker 2: three camera frames.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes I think what.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing in a lot of these sports, now we're
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  Speaker 2: slowing this down and looking for these fine threads of detail,
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  Speaker 2: rather than let the play run twenty percent slower than
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  Speaker 2: what happened in real time and then make your assessment
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  Speaker 2: there and leave it there, because at twenty percent slower,
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  Speaker 2: the officials could officiate that play at twenty percent slower
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  Speaker 2: and be as consistent I think, on the field in
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  Speaker 2: more cases than what we watch now plays that they're
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  Speaker 2: ruling as catches now with a third but just getting down,
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  Speaker 2: these plays are happening within a fraction of a second
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  Speaker 2: and your human brains going to dissect that play to
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  Speaker 2: be able to work that play live correctly, and that's
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  Speaker 2: not a good place to go. I think that's where
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  Speaker 2: we're heading in some ways with this technological advancement.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that's the only way I could say they.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't keep that targeting on there.
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  Speaker 6: He said the right words to the indicators, he launched,
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  Speaker 6: he leaned his head toward the player's head in that area.
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  Speaker 6: It's forcible contact.
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  Speaker 2: And quite frankly, in real time and slow motion, this
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  Speaker 2: is not a play we want in the game.
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  Speaker 4: So you're gone.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's to me, those are the plays that
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  Speaker 2: set that that sets the precedent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Great.
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  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, it just seems like really a lot of times
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  Speaker 7: with these it's like the look of the play is
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  Speaker 7: what ends up calling getting the flag called, and then
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  Speaker 7: they have to dissect it down to figure out is
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  Speaker 7: it did it just look bad but it was legal
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  Speaker 7: or in this case, they look at it and say, well,
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  Speaker 7: it looks bad. It really was bad, but we still
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  Speaker 7: picked up the flag. I don't understand that, but I
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  Speaker 7: guess yeah. There's a lot of minutia kind of in
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  Speaker 7: that whole thing, Geene. Moving into the the NFL, there
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  Speaker 7: was a game I think that you were working, the
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  Speaker 7: Cincinnati Chicago game where I've never seen this before. There
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  Speaker 7: was a play basically a fumble near the goal line.
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  Speaker 7: They ended up calling them down. They end up calling
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  Speaker 7: the Bears guy the Bears runner down. Zach Taylor challenges
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  Speaker 7: a play hoping that they're going to call it a
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  Speaker 7: fumble out of the end zone, and instead it totally
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  Speaker 7: backfires on him and ends up they end up turning
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  Speaker 7: into a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a new one for you?
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  Speaker 7: And is that the way it's supposed to be that
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  Speaker 7: if you throw a challenge, we might come back and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: it's worse than what we had called on the field.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. It was.
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  Speaker 2: The irony of that was you're looking for one element
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  Speaker 2: and all, my goodness, after replay, it's much worse than
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  Speaker 2: where if we would have just left it alone. Those
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  Speaker 2: don't happen too frequently, Buck, And that was that was
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  Speaker 2: a prime example that the Cincinnati coach felt like the
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  Speaker 2: ball was loose prior to breaking the.
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  Speaker 6: Plane of the goal line, and now we're going to
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  Speaker 6: have a.
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  Speaker 2: Fumble through the end zone and out of the end
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  Speaker 2: zone for a touchback. And then we go back and
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  Speaker 2: we look at the play and realize, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: he really didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Lose control, and I think the official on the field
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  Speaker 6: ruled that the ball was out at the one yard line.
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  Speaker 2: So we went from the one yard line on in
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  Speaker 2: real time ruling to the coach thinking that it was
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  Speaker 2: a fumble through the end zone to oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 2: it's not only out, not out at the one. He
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  Speaker 2: still is possessing this football as it's breaking the plane.
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  Speaker 4: So the challenge ended up and benefited the opponent to
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  Speaker 4: a word to score.
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  Speaker 6: Rather than have them have first in goal at the one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a lot of those experiences, like in
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  Speaker 3: my dating life, Gene, where you're like that, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if I don't know if I think those shoes
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  Speaker 3: go with that dress, and and then well I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if I want to be with you right now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A few times.
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  Speaker 6: Artist questioned in America, Chuck when she comes down the
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  Speaker 6: stairs and.
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  Speaker 4: Says, how do I look.
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  Speaker 2: The answer there is I'm not really sure if I
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  Speaker 2: can give you a great answer.
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  Speaker 4: I do say, because it's honest, you look more.
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  Speaker 6: Beautiful today than you did the.
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  Speaker 4: Day I met you.
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  Speaker 2: But sometimes that doesn't work all the time. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I get a little nervous when I get.
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  Speaker 4: The same look.
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  Speaker 2: Does this go with that?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not that guy. I'm just thought that
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  Speaker 4: guy looks Do you like it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It works for me, really well, looks great.
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  Speaker 3: I was Gene just quickly. I was once at a
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  Speaker 3: jamba juice and a single guy at the time, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: and so I see this really pretty girl come into
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  Speaker 3: the jamba juice.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And I walked up to her and these are the
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  Speaker 3: words that came out of my mouth, Jean, because I
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  Speaker 3: got to her and she had this amazing perfume on.
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  Speaker 3: And this is how what came out of my mouth
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  Speaker 3: first time I met her. You smell even better than
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  Speaker 3: you look.
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  Speaker 5: That's a.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know she is wife or not now, I
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  Speaker 8: mean no, she had this like smile started to form
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  Speaker 8: on her face, and then she thought about what I said.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, that's actually kind of insulting, and then
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  Speaker 3: she turned her back on me and ordered a coldbuster
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  Speaker 3: and that was it. Jean's territorre is with this. CBS
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  Speaker 3: rules analysts and former NFL official, I don't even think
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  Speaker 3: I said even I think you smell better than you look.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's how it came out. How good? All right?
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  Speaker 3: There were a couple of roughing plays I'll take I'll
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  Speaker 3: take this one in the Detroit Minnesota game. Man, I
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  Speaker 3: get the rule Gene that we don't want three hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty pound defensive tackles nose guards landing on our
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  Speaker 3: precious quarterbacks. But a guy about the same size, Jack Campbell,
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  Speaker 3: like a two hundred and thirty pound linebacker, landed on
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  Speaker 3: a two hundred and ten pound quarterback and you could
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  Speaker 3: see that he was trying to move his shoulders so
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  Speaker 3: that he didn't land on him. And he got called
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  Speaker 3: with roughing anyway, and it was a huge call in
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  Speaker 3: that game. I mean, I don't know if I love
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  Speaker 3: the landing call, and the National Football League I certainly
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  Speaker 3: didn't like that one. Was that justifiable? Should they have
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  Speaker 3: shown thrown a flag on Jack Campbell in that case?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's one of the hardest plays the referee
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  Speaker 2: in the game, chuck body weight.
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  Speaker 5: You know what is body weight?
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  Speaker 4: What isn't body weight? What's physics? What is in physics?
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  Speaker 2: Look, Ben dright, there's a name from the past and
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  Speaker 2: the referee annals. We always called it the givening the
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  Speaker 2: business play, right, That's how Ben Dryce announced it when
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  Speaker 2: he felt like it was roughing, you know, the players
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  Speaker 2: giving him the business. I think that you've got to
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  Speaker 2: allow that play. Truthfully, I kind of wish that that
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  Speaker 2: play wasn't being supported as like a correct call when
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  Speaker 2: it's made and I felt the same thing you did. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: the player gets a great hit, that's football.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, he also attempts.
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  Speaker 2: To get one hand that might have been on the
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  Speaker 2: other side of where the referee was on the ground
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  Speaker 2: so that he didn't give him the business and drive
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  Speaker 2: him through the term.
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  Speaker 4: But yet this.
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  Speaker 2: Game, the game we love, has those hits. If it's
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  Speaker 2: not a fowl that looks like you know what. I know,
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  Speaker 2: you hit him blindside and he's gonna tip and you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna land, but you drove him a piece of that too.
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  Speaker 2: At the end, I felt that on the field that's
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  Speaker 2: a foul. These others aren't and this is a really
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  Speaker 2: hard play to officiate, and the league has been very,
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  Speaker 2: very strong to get as much of this out of
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  Speaker 2: the game as they can. So I think we do
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  Speaker 2: lean at times with body weight to calling penalties when
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  Speaker 2: quite frankly, I think they're just good football hits and
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  Speaker 2: the players have adjusted in so many cases. You can
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  Speaker 2: see in real time, which amazes me, these massive men
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  Speaker 2: spinning their bodies right before the body land on the ground,
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  Speaker 2: and these are fractions of a second decisions, or them
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  Speaker 2: going to the ground in this quick moment and putting
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  Speaker 2: their hands on the side to let the official note, look,
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  Speaker 2: I am trying to brace.
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  Speaker 6: Myself before I go and go onto the body.
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  Speaker 2: But I think their plays, you know, they do lean
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  Speaker 2: to safety on the plays, and when you see this situation,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: I think this is a football play.
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  Speaker 6: And not a body weight foul.
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  Speaker 2: But really really hard to referee in real time.
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  Speaker 4: And replay can't get.
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  Speaker 6: Involved in that decision.
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  Speaker 3: I guess there's no way to put a weight limit
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  Speaker 3: on that call, is there. Like you have to be
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  Speaker 3: this big to ride this ride, Like you can't be
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  Speaker 3: this big to land on a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're this tall you're underneath the kangaroos.
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  Speaker 4: No, so you you can't get on, but.
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  Speaker 6: You're all so a little heavy.
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  Speaker 2: Too, so yeah, you know, and then you know the
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  Speaker 2: other side was really difficult is when you did have.
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  Speaker 6: A very agile, in smaller quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: And and then you just have a six foot eight,
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  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty pound lineman coming from the blind
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  Speaker 2: side and just kind of, you know, eclipses him. You
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  Speaker 2: just you lose the player. Yeah, that is what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. So I think that that is to me,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was the hardest play to officiate consistently
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  Speaker 2: in the league.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, Geane.
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  Speaker 7: There was one in the Houston Texans Denver Broncos game.
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  Speaker 7: It was the unfortunate hit that knock c J. Stroud
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  Speaker 7: out of the game and cousin be concussed, not the hit,
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  Speaker 7: but they hit and then that forced his head to
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  Speaker 7: hit the ground. And you know, we see that just
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  Speaker 7: about every single week. A lot of people were up
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  Speaker 7: in arms because he basically hit him while he was sliding.
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  Speaker 7: Watching it and maybe it's through my Bronco colored glasses,
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  Speaker 7: it was like it was kind of a late slide.
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  Speaker 7: He didn't I don't think he recognized that the defender
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  Speaker 7: was coming back from the backside loop, but it was
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  Speaker 7: a little bit of a you didn't really have your
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  Speaker 7: head on a swell where you weren't really aware of
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  Speaker 7: your surroundings. Anyways, it was he did hit him low.
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  Speaker 7: You could tell he was trying to not hit him
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  Speaker 7: in the head. The announcers were saying, well, at that point,
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  Speaker 7: last second, you just have to make the adjustment and
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  Speaker 7: go over him, which to me is like boy, but
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  Speaker 7: if you miss now you literally hit him right in
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  Speaker 7: the head and it's going to be even worse. And
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  Speaker 7: so I don't know how are you supposed to officiate that,
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  Speaker 7: because that's another one where there's gray area.
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  Speaker 3: It's got to be difficult to do.
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  Speaker 2: One percent Bucky, And I think this is one of
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  Speaker 2: those cases where, listen, the slide protection really really works
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  Speaker 2: well when quarterbacks break out of the pocket or a
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  Speaker 2: runner does and he's out in space and now he
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  Speaker 2: feels on coming opponents closing in and he makes the
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  Speaker 2: slide to avoid this hit and gives up a few
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  Speaker 2: yards doing so, and that looks really good, clean, the
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  Speaker 2: right call for the game. Now you have a play
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  Speaker 2: where a quarterback scrambles out of the pocket and he
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  Speaker 2: gets between kind of the tackles. There are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of opponents within two or three steps of him. And
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  Speaker 2: then in that last moment, as you said, he.
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  Speaker 6: Decides, I'm going to slide in this area.
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  Speaker 2: The proximities of bodies moving, the time that the defender
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  Speaker 2: commits to making that hit maybe five feet away from him,
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  Speaker 2: he's already committing to tackling you, and you just begin
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  Speaker 2: to slide, and now the hit occurs. That's where I
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  Speaker 2: think the rule itself, which I think is intended for
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  Speaker 2: the out in space slide, now has to become a
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  Speaker 2: different type of an application because you're sliding within close
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  Speaker 2: proximity of people that you really can't put them on
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  Speaker 2: that same level. Now, to the NFL's defense on that,
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  Speaker 2: because that foul was that the initial contact was to
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  Speaker 2: his head and replay is allowed to review only that
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  Speaker 2: element of that play, you announced that this is unnecessary
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  Speaker 2: roughness contact to a sliding quarterbacks header neck area. Now
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  Speaker 2: you have a black and white piece that the replay
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  Speaker 2: officials can look at. It is reviewable, and now we
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  Speaker 2: do see in that play kind of like the targeting
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  Speaker 2: in a maybe more positive way from the first play. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: you started the slide rather late, and he does blast
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  Speaker 2: you there in the chest, right in the shoulder and unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: as you also said, but the bigger damage and many
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  Speaker 2: many of these hits, is the quarterback or the player
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  Speaker 2: is head hitting that hard turf afterward.
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  Speaker 6: But he didn't hit it in the head and neck area.
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  Speaker 2: We can remove that penalty if we can look at
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  Speaker 2: that element of that play, and that's why you called it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's a quarterback that's sliding within these close windows.
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  Speaker 2: I think that needs to be discussed a little further
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  Speaker 2: down the line now about how much protection you can
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: afford them.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Gene Sterotor is with us. And then as we close
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  Speaker 3: out this week's edition of our genes Sterotor Conversation, Halloween
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  Speaker 3: just ended. Part of Halloween fifty percent, if I can
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: do the math, is trick. I know fifty percent is treated,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: but fifty percent is trick. So what kind of tricks
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: do you throw the flag on at your house for
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: unsportsmanlike Halloween behavior? I mean is like toilet paper ring
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: or you know, running up and knocking on the door
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: and running away? What uh, what's acceptable? Give me an
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: example of something acceptable as a trick and something that
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: unacceptable that you're gonna have to throw the flag on.
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  Speaker 2: The times have changed so much chucky from my childhood
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: decades and decades ago, where you know, the.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: Soaping of windows or that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to give any young kids any new
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: in the creative ideas, but you know the egging.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: We used to weather an agging and then you.
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Uh, it's if it was a misty, misty October evening.
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  Speaker 2: And uh and it was a little damp man that
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: toilet paper on the pines out in the front of
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the house that would slick there until Easter. You know, uh,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you know kind of you know, honest with you. You look,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: My brother and I own a you know, a sanitary
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: janitorium paper supply business, so I always promote the toilet
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: papering because it's good for business, you.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: Know, I mean, tweeper is.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Used for more than one reason, ladies and gentlemen, you know. So,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: and we do sell the jumbo roll, which is a
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: thousand eleven air feet.
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  Speaker 5: You get a little more bangs for air fuck on
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: that night.
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  Speaker 2: So I think I'd lean to that trick if I
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: had to lean to any one trick.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we would be that one one. That's what's acceptable. Okay,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: all right, I'll remember that next year when I toilet
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: painted a crap out of your house. All right, Jane,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: thank you very much, always great and we'll talk to
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: you again next week.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Thanks, guys, have a great week.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Jeane Sterotur, the one, the only Jeane Sterotur joining us
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: here as he does every Tuesday. His segment brought to
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  Speaker 3: All right, coming up next on our radio program, we're
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: going to talk some hockey. We're gonna get that hockey
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: thing going with Everett fits you the team boy, They
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: are cooking under lane Lambert. Can it continue? We'll ask
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  Speaker 5: Stopped at the red line, Brent Nasar pumped off the puck.
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  Speaker 3: Now everly he'll bring it.
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  Speaker 5: In everly since stop Jordan Everly his fifth goal the season.
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  Speaker 3: The Crooking get that Inservant's.
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  Speaker 2: Goal back back up by a pair free one free
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  Speaker 2: fifty five left it.
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  Speaker 3: The third pull the cracking Got a pair, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, it's gotta be the bacon, egg and
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: cheese mccriddle. Oh oh boy, big, big breakfast guy. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna build a mcgriddle. But if I'm doing lunch,
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  Speaker 5: I mean get me a twenty piece and a large fry.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Here we go. Nuggets. I'm a nugget guy. I'm a
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: nugget guy myself. I have to sneak him every once
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: in a while, just have to have them.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I remember the first time I had. My mom splurged
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: on the twenty piece and I just felt I have
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: a golden ticks, like, oh my goodness. I was so happy,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: and then I pound out it made a fifty piece
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: in one one Sunday morning, after some college debauchery, I
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: ordered a fifty piece chicken McNugget and my life was
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: changed forever that faithful day.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yes that was your cholesterol.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, still still recovering from that one fifty piece.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That's that's a meal right there. Everett Fitzi is with
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  Speaker 3: us every week right here on Chuck and Buck. Last
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: night was on the call right here on the flagship
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: for the Seattle cracking of another victory for Lane Lambert
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: and the squad three to one, they take out the
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Chicago Blackhawks. What is the one thing that you've noticed
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: during this good start to this Lane Lambert era that
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: just simply jumps off the page to you as being
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: different than any other team that you've called play by
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: play for here in Seattle.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Joey Decord had a really good
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: comment last night, and it's the fact that this team
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: believes in what they're doing. They believe in each other,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: they believe in the system. They knew they were going
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: to get off to a good start. They're comfortable in
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: these tight games. You know, a lot of times you'll
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: see these teams up to one up three to two,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: you know, with with five to go, when they start
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: to panic and they start to do too much. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: the one thing that I've noticed about this team is
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: just the calming presence that you see. And I'll go
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: back to the Winnipeg game about two weeks ago now,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: when they shut Winnipeg out on their home eyes two
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: nothing or three nothing with two empty net goals. It
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: was one nothing with you know, three minutes left, and
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't feel up in the broadcast booth panicky. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: didn't feel like, man, they gotta get another one here.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: It was. It was so cerebral and they did such
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: a good job of shutting down that Winnipeg attack. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: I felt last night again you saw it. Counta Reguard
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: and Andre Brekowski. They were able to get the one,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: but even when the Kraken were up two to one,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: you just knew they were going to get that goal. Back.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: The way that this team played, I thought the last
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: couple of games weren't their best starts, but last night
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: they got back to what has made them successful, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: that was a good sixty minute defensive, uh disciplined effort,
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  Speaker 5: and they were rewarded for that.
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  Speaker 7: FITZI I mean, for years we've been talking about like
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: kind of the one of the strengths of the team
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: is the strength possibly of how their third and fourth
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: lines match up against others, even if their first couple
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: of lines are not.
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  Speaker 3: Are you seeing any.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: Sort of trend towards the first couple of lines being
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: able to match up against like what you said the
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: you know yesterday, the the Connor Badar and Andy Brikowski.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: You know that's a line that typically is one that
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: could do damage against this type of a team. Are
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: you seeing the playing field level a little bit when
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: you're talking about the first couple of lines.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I think I am, and and you know when when
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: you're when you talk about those third and fourth lines
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: in particular. We talked to Tyke Rti last night after
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: the game and and Al essentially asked him that question,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: you know, how do you like your line matchups? What
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: what's your lines philosophy? And and they that line in
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Particuler wants to be the hardest line on this team
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: to play against. And I think Tye and Winterton and
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: and Ben Myers then last night Bertie Katton, they've relished
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: that role of being a shutdown, grinding line I think
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: offensively for the personnel that you have on your third
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: line last night with Mason Mark Smith, Shade Wright and
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Yonnie Newman, I do think there's another level offensively for
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: them to get to, especially you know the shot that
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Newman has. March Smith, you know what we've seen from
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: him throughout his career. He's got five points this season
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: for Seattle. But it always takes some time for for
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: new players to get ingrained into the system. But you're
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: going on game thirteen now, so I think I think
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: we're gonna see Marsman. I hope we're gonna see Marshman
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: break out here over the next couple of nights. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: I think I think that those bottom two lines, the
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: fourth line in particular, they have really relished the opportunity
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: of shutting down team's top lines and really frustrating some
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: of the better players to crack and see on a
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: nightley basis.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: The voice is with us ever fits you every week
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: at this time to talk to some cracking hockey winners.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Last night three to one, six, two and four record
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: on the season. You got Capo Caaco back, which is
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: great for a play by play man because it's such
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: a fun name. To pronounce, and Berkeley Catton is kind
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: of that way as well. So what have you made
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: of the teenage mutant ninja winger so far in his
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: in his time as a Seattle Cracking.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think I think number one, he
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: has proven that he can play at this level and
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: it almost reminds me a little bit of of Shane
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: Wright last year, his first full season in the NHL.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Every shift, every game, he did something better, he did
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: something well. He took a incremental steps almost every night
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: to improve his game, and I think I'm seeing that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm seeing that with Berkeley Catton this
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: year as well. Every night, whether it's whether it's a
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: zone entry, whether it's a good play with the puck,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: whether it's a nice pass, whether it's going to the net.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Last night, I had to apologize to Mama and Papa
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Catton because I thought that Alexiak goal, Berkeley Catton went
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: to the front of the net and on the first
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: replay that we saw it looked like he got a
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: piece of it. So he went to the net last night.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: I think he's showing every single night that he can
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: play in this league, that he is an NHL player.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Now you're trying to get him to a point where
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: he can be a top line NHL player, which is
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: where they expect him to be, and that takes time.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: But I think that he's answered the call every time
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: that has offered him. I think when you have young players,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: you need to give them regular ships. I think Lane
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: Lambert is showing the trust in Berkeley. It's starting to grow,
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: but also they're gonna be those growing pains. He's nineteen
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: years old, so you know you're not expecting a perfect
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: hockey player at nineteen years old. But I do think
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: that every game he's getting better. He belongs in this league.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: But now he needs to work on his permanent placement
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: within the lineup, and everybody he included, expects him to
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: be a top line winger. I think he works really
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: well with Everly and Beineers on that top line. Is
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: that his everyday spot? Should that be his everyday spot
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: right now today? Probably not. But four months from now,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: the start of next season, when he's got a full
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: year under his belt, we still don't know what's gonna
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: happen with him. After his nine game you know, tryout
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: essentially is up, and he's got to make a decision.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: We've got to make a decision. It's an organization. Do
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: you keep them, do you send them back? Whatever they came? Maybe,
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: but I do think that he's trending in the right direction.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: In every game, he takes another step toward being that
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: top line player that we all expect him to be.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: Fit to any word on Jared McCann's health.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Day to day to quote la, uh yeah, we we
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: still we mum's the word. We haven't gotten a lot
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: of information on Jared McCann. I know last week, Uh,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: he did skate after practice, went through a few drills.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: He did push himself kind of hard and it appeared
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: like he was maybe trying to test something out. But
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: but no, we we've gotten no word maybe this week
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: and on the Crack and they've got one more game
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: on this home stand and they head out to Dallas
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: and Saint Louis. Saint Louis and Dallas Saturday Sunday, So
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: maybe the Cracking can get an update on him when.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: Before they leave.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: But as of right now, uh, it's it's kind of
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: the hurry up and wait game when it comes to
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: news on.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Jared mcad I got a minute left here and So
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: just to ask you, because the team is already I
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: mean it's early in the season, they've already played six
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: overtime games and they've lost four of them. So do
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: you look at this Do you think Lane Lambert looks
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: at this as man, we are hanging with everybody in
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: the NHL, I mean, it's every night is a close knight.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Or do you think he's fuming that, Hey, we got
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: to figure out three on three hockey. We need to
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: get two points, not one point when we send this
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: thing to overtime.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: So again, I asked him a very similar question the
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: other day. Yeah, and I wouldn't say fuming is the word.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I don't even know if I would go so far
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: as to say mildly frustrated. But there is a little
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: bit of you know, we're banking important points that shim
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: be are going to be important later in the season.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Right when you're going in to Game seventy five, when
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: you're going into the last week or two of the
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: season and you're still in that playoff race, You're gonna
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: look back at all these overtime games. Man, thank goodness
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: we have these points. However, on the other side of that,
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: you would like to find an extra point here or there.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Because it's a double ed sword, you can either miss
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: the playoffs by two points or three points, or you
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: can get into the playoffs by two or three points,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: and you're gonna be like, man, if only we had
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: held on to that third period lead and didn't give
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: away a point in overtime, or man, thank god we
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: sal there's a point in overtime. So I think you
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: can play both sides of that coin. I wouldn't say
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: he's frustrated or mad yet, but I do think that
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: as this year goes on, right, once you get past
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: December first, once you get into January, you're going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: want to start to get full two points, especially against
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: teams in the Western Conference.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: My wish for you, sir, as we get ready for
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: the holidays is for some day to open up a
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: sixty piece McNugget. That's that's my hope for you.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Sixty full pieces. Man, what's that that? That just sounds lovely?
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, have fun on the call to I
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: don't I don't want to go buy three twenty pieces,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: no big, one, big dpiece box of nuggets like a
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: bucket from KFC.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Bucket KFC can do buckets of chicken. Why can't I
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: do a bucket nugg.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Bucco nugs, A Mickbuco nug.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Mickbuckle nugs. There higher up the marketing introducing
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: the Mick Buckle dugs.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I'm down alright, talk to you later, all right, fellas
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Ashley Everett fits you joining us right here on Chalking Bout.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: He'll be back on the call with Al tomorrow at
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: seven o'clock home game against the San Jose Sharks. We're
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: gonna play the Sharks twice in like ten days. We
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: also have a Cracking ticket Tuesday today, so be listening
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: for your opportunity to win tickets to see the Crack
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and take on the Sharks November fifteenth. Every hour we'll
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  Speaker 3: six two eight six ninety five and you will win
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: tickets to see the Crack and take on the Sharks. Sorry.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Coming up next, we've got some award finalists and also
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: an update on the NFL trading deadline. We got a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: trade Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM that I
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: was leading you in that direction. I wasn't The Raiders
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: and Jaguars have hooked up, and I actually was thinking,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I've tried to get Jacoby Myers off the waiver wire
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: for fantasy. I have him. I thought he was going
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: to end up in a different uniform at the end
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of this day, and he's going to He's now a
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: member of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Raiders are going to
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: get a fourth and a sixth round pick. Jaguars had
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of draft picks to move, and so they
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: have landed Jacoby Myers here on trade deadline day. The
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: deadline is coming up at one o'clock. Still nothing from
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks at this point. Greg Bell told us an
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: hour ago not expecting too much activity, if any at
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: all from John Schneider today, but they certainly are making
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: their phone calls. We'll see. We got some time to
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: go before the deadline hits, and so plenty of time
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: for John Schneider to work his trade deadline magic. But
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers is leaving the Raiders. Maybe that for sales
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: sign is out there are the Raiders now. Maybe Max
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Crosby can be had at a certain rate. I don't know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: but the Raiders do move on from Jacoby Myers. More
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: on that coming up on the show here today, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: yesterday I did want to squeeze this into the program.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Ritt new oswill join us at nine. Major League Baseball's
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: getting ready for awards season. They announced their finalists yesterday.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: It feels like they're doing all of this early, like
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: they can't wait to get all of this done. But
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: they named them all yesterday, and no surprise, cal Rawley
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: is a top three finalist along with Jose Ramirez and
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge for American League MVP.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: Good Well, I think everybody kind of recognized that. I'm
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: fine with them not waiting. You don't have to drag
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: your feature.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Let me know.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping he got it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: Who knows how this whole thing's gonna work out, but
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: obviously well deserved for what he did for his squad
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: this year.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Certainly he's losing in the panelist discussions right now at
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  Speaker 3: MLB Network, they're giving it to Judge most everybody at
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: the network. I kind of feel, Ashley, that we are
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: going to be disappointed. But I think narrowly, I think
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  Speaker 3: Kyl's going to be no lower than second on any ballot,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna I think he's gonna get
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  Speaker 3: first on a lot of ballots, just not enough, I fear, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's probably the way it is.
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  Speaker 9: And it's unfortunate because, as we've talked about so much,
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: the just the effort that he has to put into
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: every single game from start to finish, before the game,
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: everything just to make that game go right is a
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  Speaker 9: lot greater than what Aaron Judge has to do.
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  Speaker 3: It's just true, I mean, and I mean, granted we're biased,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: we watch it every single day. I don't feel this
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: as a bias decision because I'm such a huge fan
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  Speaker 3: of Aaron Judge. You know, he wears Yankee penstrites. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: think it's just awesome for the sport. I love watching
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: him play. I root against him to win, but I
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: do love watching him, and I think he's a great
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: ambassador for the sport as well. But there was just
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: that that Colt Keith slide in the Tiger series where
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Keith had a like a three step jump because we
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: weren't holding him apparently we decided not to hold runners
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: at that given moment, and Kyle just throws a laser beam,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: and there was just this thought of, Yeah, let's see
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge do that. Yeah, yeah, it's not.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I'll see, yeah, I'll admit that there's probably
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: some bias, but not really because of what you just said.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think Aaron Judge is amazing. Aaron Judge
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: had a better offensive season, even though he didn't hit
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: as many home runs. He's just not more valuable to
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: his team.
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  Speaker 6: Period.
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  Speaker 3: There's not this year.
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: No, not this year. Yeah, it just isn't. That's just
• 35:40
  Speaker 7: not It's not the most valuable offensive statistical season because
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: that that's not even a question. I mean, cal Rawly
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: hit two forty or whatever he hit. It's not the same.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: They didn't hit the same. It's just who's more valuable
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: that That is a different conversation, and to me, it's
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: not even a conversation. Is amazing as cal or as
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: Aaron Judge's numbers offensively are, He's not as valuable as
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: cal Rawley is period.
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  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson also named a finalist for American League Manager
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  Speaker 3: of the Year, alongside John Schneider of the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 3: and Stephen Vote of the Guardians, who if he won,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: would go back to back. But I think it's between
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Dan and Schneider. Yeah, it's probably gonna go to Schneider.
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  Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, well deserved by Dan.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And ultimately that's one that I wouldn't be I
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: wouldn't be mad at I mean Schneider, if you just
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: think about, like a lot of times when it comes
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: down to tiebreakers, the head to head, he won the
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: head to head in the playoffs, had a better record, Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, he had a better overall season. He ended
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: up going to the World Series, was a couple outs
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  Speaker 7: away from winning it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they decide that, they decided the vote before that.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just saying I think that ultimately, I think that's
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: the one that I can see one hundred percent. Like
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: the Aaron Judge and cal Rawley, I do not I
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: will not ever agree Aaron Judge wins it. I won't
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  Speaker 7: have any qualms if Dan doesn't win the Manager of
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  Speaker 7: the Year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't. I would not even pick him. I wouldn't
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: pick Dan. And I think that he's gotten trashed pretty
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: heavily here in the market, and certainly there are a
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: lot of things that I disagreed with. I don't think
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: he did, by any stretch a bad job or even
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: a mediocre job. He did a good job this year.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I don't think he did a great job, like the
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: award should honor still.
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: Doing it because he first year and the teams won
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: the division for the first time.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe well, I think it's it usually goes to whoever
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: you feel overachieved with his roster. That's usually who it
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: goes to. I don't think Dan overachieved with our roster,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: so and then obviously watching him day by day, there's
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: a bias the other way. I think that there were
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of x's and o's decisions over the course
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: of the year that we had to question. So I
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: would not pick Dan Wilson Manager of the Year, but
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: the fact that he finishes top three shows you he
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: had a lot better year than what some people are
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  Speaker 3: giving him credit for. Right New Isle, Neck Sports Radio
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