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THE NEW DIDDY? WEALTHY FLORIDA REALTOR-BROTHERS' RAPE "TROPHIES" REVEALED · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the so called New Diddy. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: two wealthy Florida real estate brothers rape trophies are just revealed.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: A trio of brothers, luxury real estate agents to the
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  Speaker 3: super rich, indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges.
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  Speaker 3: Claims go back more than a decade.
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  Speaker 1: Claims going back more than a decade. Try two decades. Now,
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  Speaker 1: forty women that we know of, the claiming these filthy
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  Speaker 1: rich real estate moguls took part in rape after rape
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  Speaker 1: after systematic rape, and that the allegations.
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  Speaker 2: Go back to when they were in high school.
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  Speaker 1: All that money, all that privilege and education has bought
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  Speaker 1: them a one way ticket to Hell with a pitstop
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  Speaker 1: and the federal penitentiary.
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  Speaker 2: That's my prediction.
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  Speaker 1: But I want you to hear what Damian Williams, the
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  Speaker 1: US attorney, has to say.
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  Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips
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  Speaker 4: with paid for the flights or accommodations for the women
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  Speaker 4: on these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the
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  Speaker 4: women to invite. At other times they use paid party
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  Speaker 4: promoters to source women for them. The indictment also alleges
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  Speaker 4: that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers and
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  Speaker 4: others procured drugs that they agreed to provide to the women,
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  Speaker 4: including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB as. We allege that these
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  Speaker 4: drugs caused some of the women to be physically unable
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  Speaker 4: to fight back or to escape.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know why they're calling it the new ditty
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  Speaker 1: or should I say the new ditties? Now that's what
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  Speaker 1: the US attorney is saying for the US attorney for
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  Speaker 1: the Southern District. But I want you to look at
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  Speaker 1: orin Alexander on the founder.
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  Speaker 5: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have
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  Speaker 5: a partner with your brother.
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  Speaker 6: You know, just think about that for a seconds.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
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  Speaker 3: knowing that you don't.
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  Speaker 7: Have to worry.
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  Speaker 2: Honey, you got something to worry about.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies
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  Speaker 1: against you. Let's just analyze what we just heard, and
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  Speaker 1: that's where our friends that from the founder on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: that's or an Alexander one of the and I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Filt the rich rolling in money. That's or an Alexander quote.
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  Speaker 1: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have
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  Speaker 1: a partner who's your brother.
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  Speaker 2: You know, just think about that for a second. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
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  Speaker 1: knowing you don't have to worry.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what happened with me?
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  Speaker 1: An All Star panel, Let's get to it straight out
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  Speaker 1: to Christie Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel, Christina,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. I'm really curious about
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  Speaker 1: how much money these two have. And this goes all
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  Speaker 1: the way back. Their family is wealthy, their grandfather.
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  Speaker 2: Wealthy, blah blah blah blah, kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of like Luigi MANGIONI just all that money to silver
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  Speaker 1: spoons in the mouth.
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  Speaker 2: And yet this what happened, Christina.
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  Speaker 8: You know, actually I think it started way back when
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  Speaker 8: they were in high school. As people are now starting
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  Speaker 8: to come out and say that they actually had a
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  Speaker 8: sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
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  Speaker 8: forty million dollars beachfront of state where the boys, the
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  Speaker 8: brothers in high school, would take women to have sex
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  Speaker 8: in that bus in front of their parents' house. So
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  Speaker 8: this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps by
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  Speaker 8: their parents all the way through. Then you add the
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  Speaker 8: hundreds of millions of dollars in properties that these brothers
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  Speaker 8: have sold in the security business, and they're pretty much
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  Speaker 8: running around town doing anything that they want, including, according
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  Speaker 8: to prosecutors, drugging women raping women. Each brother has separately
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  Speaker 8: been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible rapes
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  Speaker 8: by women, and prosecutors are.
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  Speaker 2: Saying that, hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Don't wait a minute, we were just looking at them.
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  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, why is it so hard for people to
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  Speaker 1: believe that super wealthy, college educated, great job guys can
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  Speaker 1: commit heinous crimes. That's what he posted on his own Facebook.
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  Speaker 7: Go go ahead, Well, I really believe Nancy, and people
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  Speaker 7: see this outward of parents. They're dressed so well, they
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  Speaker 7: look so terrific that they buy that that they believe
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  Speaker 7: that that's what they really like, and they have no
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  Speaker 7: idea what's going on behind the scene. And actually the
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  Speaker 7: fact that he says he trests his brother, I was thinking, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: they the trust, all of them trust each other in
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  Speaker 7: supporting the crimes that they committed, which made it even
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  Speaker 7: worse because they were encouraged.
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  Speaker 1: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
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  Speaker 1: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,
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  Speaker 1: president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
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  Speaker 1: Harvard to hashtag.
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  Speaker 2: Nina, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: why do they have to rape women?
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  Speaker 2: With good looks?
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  Speaker 1: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
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  Speaker 1: look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
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  Speaker 1: that money, they could get any woman they want, So
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  Speaker 1: why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually
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  Speaker 1: worked on jurys before, Nima, it has.
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  Speaker 5: But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're
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  Speaker 5: talking about drug induced orgies right where multiple men, including
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  Speaker 5: the two brothers, are allegedly having sex with the same woman. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: women might want to have sex with a handsome, healthy man,
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  Speaker 5: but not get in a situation where they're having an
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  Speaker 5: orgy and they are being violated by multiple men.
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  Speaker 1: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's
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  Speaker 1: my point, Nama, I'm like two steps beyond that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, what you just said is right.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it would be argued to a jury.
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  Speaker 2: Just look at them.
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  Speaker 1: Why would they have to source women with a pr
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  Speaker 1: person in other words, basically pimp for pimp for the
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  Speaker 1: brothers because they could get any woman they want.
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  Speaker 2: Therefore, ergo they're innocent.
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  Speaker 5: It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women
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  Speaker 5: every single night, and they want to do things to
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  Speaker 5: these women that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now,
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  Speaker 5: obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to get into all that, But that's why they're using
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  Speaker 5: drugs like GHB to drug these women so they can't
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  Speaker 5: say no. That's what this is all about. And the
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  Speaker 5: tailor's old as time doesn't matter if it's the Alexander brothers.
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  Speaker 2: Diddy, Okay, I can see that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm clearly I think you and I have a communication
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  Speaker 1: problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Linn Shaw helped me out here, founder executive director
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  Speaker 1: Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex attacks on children and women.
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  Speaker 2: Lynn Shaw.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make the point that the argument will
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  Speaker 1: be made by the defense. I already know the facts
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  Speaker 1: is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani just said
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  Speaker 1: I get it. I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense
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  Speaker 1: is going to argue at trial they don't need to
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  Speaker 1: rape women. They can get any woman they want. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: this is consensual. That's bs It's argued in so many
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  Speaker 1: rape cases.
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  Speaker 9: I call them the Alexander Brothers crime family, and I
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  Speaker 9: call these Dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
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  Speaker 9: so big they're out of again. This is the same
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  Speaker 9: story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges like this,
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  Speaker 9: that so many vulnerable girls and women. I'm going to
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  Speaker 9: throw in the girls again. I wish we could get
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  Speaker 9: down to were there any miners involved, but that will
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  Speaker 9: unfold at some point. They want to see and live
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  Speaker 9: this lifestyle. Many of these women were approached online complete strangers,
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  Speaker 9: and they said, we'll fly you out, we'll give you hotels,
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  Speaker 9: we'll give you parties, we'll give you clothes, and vulnerable
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  Speaker 9: people girls especially really want to experience this. I'm here
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  Speaker 9: to say if this case can help us educate the
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  Speaker 9: general public, because we're hearing about all these you know,
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  Speaker 9: Dirty Ditty, We're hearing about Tape Brothers, We're hearing about
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  Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein, We're hearing about now these criminal Alexander brothers.
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  Speaker 9: If it could, if it could water down eventually. My
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  Speaker 9: hope is to everyday cases that are happening, that nobody
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  Speaker 9: will ever hear those victims, see those victims, so we
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  Speaker 9: can educate everybody. When they offer you something like this,
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  Speaker 9: this lifestyle for free, they're going to fly you somewhere
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  Speaker 9: run in the other direction. This is again their powers,
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  Speaker 9: their money, their egos, their homes overtaking people's common sense.
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  Speaker 9: We have to do better educating the public, girls and
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  Speaker 9: women about all of this.
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  Speaker 1: Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 1: Christina a WHYO joining me from Salem Use Channel over
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen million dollars.
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  Speaker 8: Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that is.
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  Speaker 8: The parents have offered to put up to one billion
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  Speaker 8: dollars to get their three boys out of prison, out
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  Speaker 8: on bail. They've even offered to put them up in
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  Speaker 8: a second story apartment complex where they're jail time, pre trial,
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  Speaker 8: that has no beachfront, that has no luxury, that's you know,
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  Speaker 8: guarded twenty four to seven h guard.
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  Speaker 1: W way W WHA wha white white white Christina wait
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  Speaker 1: did you say the parents want to get them out
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  Speaker 1: of jail on a billion as in brother b brother
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  Speaker 1: billion dollar bill. And the.
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  Speaker 2: Jail is because they don't have.
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  Speaker 8: A beach, they won't have a view, they won't have
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  Speaker 8: any orgies, and it won't be luxuries. So that's what
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  Speaker 8: they're considering to be jail. And yes, up to one
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  Speaker 8: billion with a beach is what they're willing to put
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  Speaker 8: up to get their three sons out of prison.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Day, it's the ditties, it's the new ditties because
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  Speaker 1: all the money procuring the women, making other people be
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  Speaker 1: your hench person to bring women to you, to drug
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  Speaker 1: them and rap them. Those are the allegations that presumed innocent.
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  Speaker 1: But also is Luigi Minngioni all over again. Here is
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  Speaker 1: a rich brat kid whining about how US common people
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  Speaker 1: have to live with healthcare industry while he's in a
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  Speaker 1: beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo. His great grandparents
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  Speaker 1: and grandparents broke their backs coming to this country and
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  Speaker 1: becoming millionaires, working up.
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  Speaker 2: From nothing nothing, passing it down.
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  Speaker 1: So Luigi Mangioni could find in his luxury condo these
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  Speaker 1: two same thing, Bill, Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And in this case they've actually built their business, so
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  Speaker 10: they've built their brand. They now feel omnipotent. I mean
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  Speaker 10: they have money, they're they're traveling with celebrities, they're flying
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  Speaker 10: on private jets. You know, they're selling these huge, multi
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  Speaker 10: multimillion dollar properties that are getting headlines in all kinds
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  Speaker 10: of media, including their own real estate empire. So you know,
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  Speaker 10: these are the paper people. If I put a profile
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  Speaker 10: around them, not an FBI profile, but I know enough
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  Speaker 10: of them to speak about how these people become it
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  Speaker 10: can become emboldened, emblazoned. It's both feeding the ego as
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  Speaker 10: well as also just their ability to control things. So
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  Speaker 10: they like to be able to can everything, whether it's
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  Speaker 10: the deal or people.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what, I got a superseding indictment. I bet that's
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  Speaker 1: making Nima Ramani just clench because when you see the
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  Speaker 1: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to
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  Speaker 1: commit sex trafficking on these rich brats. That means, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we have one go at you, but we're not through.
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  Speaker 1: We're issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with
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  Speaker 1: more charges. It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may
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  Speaker 1: be rolling in money, but apparently.
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  Speaker 2: The Feds don't care so exactly. Who are the so
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  Speaker 2: called real estate bros.
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  Speaker 6: There are three Alexander brothers. Two of the brothers are
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  Speaker 6: twins or an a lawn their older brother Tall Tall
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  Speaker 6: and or In Alexander are known in the world of
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  Speaker 6: high priced real estate, having broke he to a forty
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  Speaker 6: nine million dollar deal for their dad in twenty twelve
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  Speaker 6: and a two hundred and forty million dollar deal developer
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  Speaker 6: Manhattan condos sale in twenty nineteen, while Orn's twin brother
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  Speaker 6: Alon attended law school before joining the family's private security
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  Speaker 6: company Ken Security.
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  Speaker 2: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 11: In a fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
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  Speaker 11: Alexander twins, Oran and Alan celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
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  Speaker 11: Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display
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  Speaker 11: as a toy for the rich and famous to play
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  Speaker 11: with as they take turns, dripping hot wax on the woman,
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  Speaker 11: setting the tone for the decadent night that awaits those
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  Speaker 11: who are rich enough and or famous enough to be
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  Speaker 11: invited to the Alexander twins birthday Pash, what am I hearing?
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute?
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  Speaker 1: A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse. The real
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  Speaker 1: Estate Bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday celebrates greeted by
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  Speaker 1: a nearly naked woman on display as a toy for
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  Speaker 1: the rich and famous to play with as they take
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  Speaker 1: turns dripping hot wax on her.
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  Speaker 2: Deja vous? Huh does this remind you of anything? Hi diddy?
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  Speaker 8: There?
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  Speaker 1: You are nothing like eating sushi off a naked lady
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  Speaker 1: on display for the rich and famous. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: like an echo chamber in here. Well, guess what The
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  Speaker 1: feds apparently in this case anyway, don't care how rich
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  Speaker 1: you are or whether you're eating sushi off a naked
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  Speaker 1: lady at a luxury party or you have her on
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  Speaker 1: display so rich people can drip wax on her. Listen
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  Speaker 1: to the US Attorney for the Southern District of New York.
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  Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes with other men, forcibly raped and assaulted the women.
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  Speaker 4: As the indictment alleges that Alexander Brothers sex trafficking agreement
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  Speaker 4: went beyond the plan trips and events. On numerous occasions,
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  Speaker 4: one or more of the defendants drugged and raped or
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  Speaker 4: sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance at bars, at nightclubs,
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  Speaker 4: social events, and dating apps. These assaults allegedly had many
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  Speaker 4: of the same hallmarks as the rapes that occurred at
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  Speaker 4: group events, isolated locations, drug victims, force and physical restraint.
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  Speaker 2: It's really a lot to take in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, very often, as a former prosecutor prosecuting nothing
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  Speaker 1: but violent felonies, I would catch myself wondering why, for instance,
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  Speaker 1: why not just date a woman and have a relationship
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  Speaker 1: and have sex with her and not drug anybody and
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  Speaker 1: rape and sodomize them and a party and a party
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  Speaker 1: setting with a lot of guys standing around. But then
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  Speaker 1: I realized, about five years into that kind of thinking,
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  Speaker 1: why ask why? It doesn't matter. I had one job
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  Speaker 1: to seek the truth. Who did, what, where?
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  Speaker 2: When? Why? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Not? So much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Not about sex. That's a simple answer for me.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't the real estate bros with all their money
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  Speaker 1: and all their high rises just go date somebody and
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  Speaker 1: have a sex life.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about the sex. What is it?
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  Speaker 7: It's a perversion, Nancy. They're getting off on raping, satomizing
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  Speaker 7: a normal relationship, the kind that you're referring to does
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  Speaker 7: not excite them. They have gotten used to this kind
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  Speaker 7: of rape and violence since they were in high school,
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  Speaker 7: and this is what gets them excited. Nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild extravagance
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  Speaker 1: parties that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars were not
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  Speaker 1: parties at all.
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  Speaker 2: They were just a.
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  Speaker 1: Russ to find sex assault victims for the New Didties.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been
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  Speaker 6: a cover for something sinister preplanned by the Alexander brothers.
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  Speaker 6: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
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  Speaker 6: rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
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  Speaker 6: federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
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  Speaker 6: a lawn are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The
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  Speaker 6: Alexanders have denied the allegations in the civil cases, and
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  Speaker 6: their reps have previously gone so far as to suggest
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  Speaker 6: the accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
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  Speaker 1: say deja vu all over again?
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  Speaker 2: Why the real estate bros Are.
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  Speaker 1: Called the New Didties? Same thing now? They called it
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  Speaker 1: fabulous parties? Diddy calls it freak coffs.
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  Speaker 4: Comes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
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  Speaker 4: called freakofs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freak
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  Speaker 4: offs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial
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  Speaker 4: sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics such
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  Speaker 4: as ketamine, ecstasy, and GHB, which Combs distributed to the
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  Speaker 4: victims to keep them obedient and compliant. As alleged, when
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  Speaker 4: Combs didn't get his way, he was violent and he
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  Speaker 4: subjected victims of physical, emotional, and verbal abuse so that
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  Speaker 4: they would participate in the freak Offs.
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  Speaker 1: To Christina Awayo, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
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  Speaker 1: the comparison between the real estate Bros and Diddy are inescapable.
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  Speaker 2: They are.
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  Speaker 8: They both are basically using their power and influence to
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  Speaker 8: allegedly drug and rape women. However, the but the Brothers
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  Speaker 8: have been doing this I think longer than Diddy, all
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  Speaker 8: the way tracing back to high school. I think they
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  Speaker 8: were encouraged to do it with their lifestyle and they
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  Speaker 8: have been described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very
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  Speaker 8: attackive when it comes to working in business. And also
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  Speaker 8: you have people from their high school years who are
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  Speaker 8: coming forward saying that they did it in high school
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  Speaker 8: and people were scared. Everybody in the community was scared
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  Speaker 8: to speak out because they had so much power, they
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  Speaker 8: had so much prominence, because they had so much influence.
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  Speaker 8: And the same goes for Diddy. He has so much
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  Speaker 8: power and so much money. People don't want to talk
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  Speaker 8: out against it. People are scared that their careers are
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  Speaker 8: going to be ruined, that they're never going to be
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  Speaker 8: let back into the music industry, that they'll be blacklisted
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: from certain events. And I think the same is true
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: for the Brothers from Miami all the way to Florida.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: People are scared of not being believed. People are scared
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: of having their lives ruined. They're scared of accusing men
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: who have so much power and so much money.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: The Alexander Brothers await rape charges in jail as a
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: New York federal judge deems the trio flight risks, they're
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: extradited to the same jail as Ditty as the Metropolitan
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Detention Setter lose.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: The Alexander Brothers is so called real estate bros rolling
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: in money, also called the New Ditties. All of their
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: trouble started well it really started all the way back
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: in high school when they're accused of sex assaulting women
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: all the way back then, but the current day problems
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: i e.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Their rape charges.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: All started when one woman spoke out. According to prosecutors,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the rapes and sex assaults have been going on for
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: years and years and years until this woman spoke out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: Listen, The Alexander brothers fall from grace begins when the
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Kate Whitman and Rebecca Mandel. Whyman alleges the brothers abducted
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where their brothers allegedly
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted, abused, raped, pinned, groped, harassed, battered,
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: and fondled by a lawn and or in Alexander, Isn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: it amazing?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Lin saw joining us from Lynn's Warriors, how it only
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: takes one person, one person to stand up and be counted,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: one person to speak out, even though they may be
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: afraid for the whole house of cards to fall down.
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: give you safety, we will give you guardrails, we will
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: stand next to you. That is what I'm hoping all
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: of these dirty ditties and this Alexander Brothers crime family
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: will bring more public awareness again watering down to you know,
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: maybe that team that lives in the Bronx or something
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: like that, that they can come forward. We will take
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: care of them. But I want to point something out.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: There was so much video evidence here, and I want
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: to go back to what happened with all those videos
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: where they uploaded to porn sites? Was there millions of dollars?
• 22:06
  Speaker 9: Because we do a lot of work with this.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter. What are the so called trophies of the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: real estate bros That has just have just been revealed.
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: As we just saw with the Cassie and Diddy situation.
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: orgy's or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They're
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on alcohol
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in these
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's bodies
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: to have sex with them. And most of the time,
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: they're saying, these women do not know they're being recorded.
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: and a man are having sex in a stall and
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: another person is recording over the stall with a camera,
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: So it's going to be pretty difficult. For whatever reason
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: they kept these videos or they have these videos, it's
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: going to be difficult to defend this in court.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: over a stall.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: What yep, So a man and a woman were having sex.
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: It didn't detail if that was forced rape, It didn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: detail what that was exactly. But there is a third
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: person who is holding a video camera up over the
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside of
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: that stall having sex and the woman sees a camera.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: She tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: women are asking them to stop.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Trophies trophies to Nima Romani, joining US former federal prosecutor,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: president of West Coast Trial Warriors, author of Harvard to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: hashtags Nima trophies have been the undoing of so manique
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: criminals explained.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor because people
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: can lie. Criminal defendants lie all the time, even witnesses
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: and victims can sometimes lie. But video doesn't lie. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: when you have video of these sex acts, that is
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really there's
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either the
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: And once you have that video, it certainly takes away
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: the first defense, and then when women are being drugged,
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: takes away the second as well. And there's really two
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: potentially blackmail them and say, if you come after me,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: I'm going to leak these.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Videos Christina and Wyo.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Isn't it true that these videos were pulled off of
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a hard drive that was found hidden in a closet
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: during a federal search.
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: Yes, in Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, so they were really searching.
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: kept them. He kept them on a hard drive. And
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And it
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: goes to show that just like he said, men light
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: women light witnesses lie perhaps, but the video is not
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: going to lie. And this is pretty tough evidence. However,
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: the defense is already saying, this doesn't prove anything. This
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: doesn't prove a commercial act, This doesn't prove that they
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: were drugged. It may prove that they're intoxicated, but he's saying, oh,
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: these are just big orgies. Everybody was willing and there
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: is nothing going on here. So next story, please.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You know it reminds me.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: In the last few days, Shawn Comes aka Diddy's defense
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: team has stated they want the frea call videos to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you know another thing, If it's so innocent, why was
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it hidden in a closet?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: But thinking about.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: The videos the trophies pulled from a hard drive in
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the real estate bro's closet, it reminds me of a
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: certain raid that went down on San Combe's mansion. In
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: that case, as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: trophies were.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Obtained during that raid.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Bill Daily video equipment was reportedly discovered, along with over
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: one thousand bottles of lubricant baby oil.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Trophies have been the bane of many criminals existence. Why trophies, well,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: And as if you go to other kind of repeat offenders,
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the mind torture kill fiend,
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: you know, they either keep pieces of clothing, they keep
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: some something to remind them, something that's going to get
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: them excited. Somebody's gonna you know, make them remember how
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: how wonderful it was that they controlled this person, that
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: they did what they did and so for all these things,
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: it's it's sometimes are.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: You putting perfume on the pig daily? That's not like
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you the souvenirs, the trophies, quote get them excited.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You may give them an erection.
• 27:19
  Speaker 10: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other people,
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: being able to. In some cases they like to share
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: it because they've they've had this experience with other people.
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: They keep it, they look at themselves, you know, maybe
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: other people. They let them see that. That all kind
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: of gives them a sense of control. It goes back
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: to that essence of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: what they want to do, using that leverage over people.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: In this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: came up, which is simply what we've seen in other cases,
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: is that as the FBI was investigating, his reports are
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: coming out that multiple victims have had the same stories. Again,
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: people who've been not connected, not there at the same place,
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: same time, but have the same story to tell. All
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: of that is streaming it. As part of what I
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's Office
• 28:04
  Speaker 10: is making their case out of is that they have
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: statements and it would encourage people.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, Bill Daily. I think this
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: goes beyond your or my kin colloquial for understanding joining me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Psychologist Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: what is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: that people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: real estate bros also called the rape bros.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: they're damning.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms,
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: it can be airing. It could be a necklace, it
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter. They
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at the
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: time and how much they controlled the situation.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: For years. The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: domestic and international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: To recruit and induce women to come on the trips,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: they provided material benefits things like travel to vacation destinations,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: luxury accommodations, and access to other high end experiences.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Or should I believe all.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Of the women now coming forward, some of them named
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in federal indictments, others filing civil suits. What's very hard
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: for many people to understand, including myself, is how the
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: real estate bros. Acted, how they faked a happy home life.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. Alahan married
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in May
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson in
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel CogAT in
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with a
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: judge to let him out as his wife was pregnant
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: and do any day. His request was denied.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy REDIU.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Listen, be happy.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: We love you.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Two of you get hit on the phone.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Time to veterman. Try a lawyer.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Former felony prosecutor Nima Ramani.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Nima not be the first time a so called.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Family man was ultimately convicted of repeat offenses. I mean,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: there's Dennis Raider that Bill Dealey brought up earlier, who
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: would sex assault.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And kill so many women and including.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Young girls on his dog catching route the whole time.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: He had a family at home, and he was a
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: deacon in the church. Then you've got Gaysey John Wayne Gacy,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: who would go to children's birthday parties to entertain the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: children dressed as a clown. I don't know how many
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: boys bodies were pulled out of his crawl space. Then
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful law
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: school student.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: He's a serial killer.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: He goes on and on, and do I have to say,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Rex Huerman, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the architect by day, serial killer by night, with a
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: wife and two children, and sin.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: His wife actually saw some of these sex acts, at
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: least allegedly, so this question of what she knew. But
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: this is criminal defense lawyering one oh one. They want
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: to show the jurors that the defendant has family support.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: That's why you see Ditty's family at every single appearance.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers to have
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce to be
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect. They
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: want to see the family members supporting the folks who
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: are accused and are on trap.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And like Didty, the new Ditties have a fantastical scheme
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: of how they're going to stay out of MDC Metropolitan
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Detention Center listen.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: Early Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: apartment on the eighth floor of Miami building, emphasizing the
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: apartment is non water front and non luxury. They promised
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: security guards would be stationed around the clock and an
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: alarm system would make sure the brothers remain on site.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: The parents also offered to put up to one billion
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: dollars bail for their sons to get out of jail.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: In case you.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Didn't get that, it's one billion, as in brother Biez
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and brother not million billion, the parents offering to put
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: up one billion dollars cash to get their sons out
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of jail.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe they were going to put in some equity into.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: That, but one billion dollars baill to get their sons
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: out and having them imprisoned in a Miami high rise.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: And the suffering part was that they wouldn't get a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: beach front view ouch.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That has to hurt.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: How dare you, mommy and daddy Christina Wyo. It's reminiscent
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of the last bid, well, the last three bids by
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Sean Combs to get out on bid where he offered
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the judge a multimillion dollar bill package. I think it
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: was twenty meal and he would stay in a Manhattan
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: town home with his own private security guards to keep
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: him from raping people.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw, right exactly.
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: I promised not to rape anybody during this time. I
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: promise that I'm not going to have any orgies. In fact,
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: I won't even have any women over so that in
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: and of itself is a huge punishment. This is the
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: same thing that we're seeing with these brothers, and quite frankly,
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: I don't know how much the parents can be trusted
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: in this whole situation because we talk about pretending to
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: have a perfect family. But I go back to the
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty million
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: dollar home as the brothers were in high school, and
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: people have said witness testimony, they are saying that back
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: in those days, that women in the scene in the
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Miami scene because for some reason, high school brothers were
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: in the Miami scene. They were warned to drink any
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: drinks that came from the brothers and to stay away
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: from the brothers because they had already been known way
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: back in high school to be sexually assaulting women.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: New York Prosecutors Hey assaults day back to high school,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: describing the number of victims as quite significant.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: And the numbers are mounting.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: What started with one woman speaking out about an alleged
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: sex assault turns into a federal indictment on sex trafficking.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: There are so many, so many victims.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Will the superseded indictment be superseded to include more victims?
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Listen?
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconduct, and
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: assaulted to call. Attorneys for the brothers say they planned
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: to plead not guilty to the charges, which, if convicted,
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: could land all three brothers in prison for life.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assaults, rape, sodomies,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: that's what we're saying, reportedly date all the way back
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to when the Real Estate Bros Were in high school.
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories
• 36:24
  Speaker 12: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their
• 36:31
  Speaker 12: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the
• 36:37
  Speaker 12: government has interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved,
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school, boasting
• 36:46
  Speaker 12: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted
• 36:50
  Speaker 12: to do it again.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: You know, Lynn Shaw.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: As many rape and sodomy cases that I've investigated, I've
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: tried have plaid out to jail time have covered.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It's still it's disgusting.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: It just makes something and you want to die to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: hear about them bragging about quote running train on the victims,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote wanted.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: To do it again.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It never ceases to be heartbreaking that a victim would
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: go through this.
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
• 37:33
  Speaker 9: those that don't have a voice. And I want us
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: to focus on two things here. I want us to
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: focus on, where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: sex bus when these trio of triplets, dirty Diddy triplets
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: were right part right in front of their their multimillion
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: dollar mansion. I'm telling you as a mother, I knew
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: when my kids moved a throw pillow on my couch.
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: Where were the parents at this time and throughout all
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: of this. The second thing I want and we have
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: to talk about that because people have to start standing up.
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: Where were these parents? They were the talk of the
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: town we're hearing, you know, in the Miami, Florida area,
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: so we should focus on that. I also want to
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: focus on you're not going to see their wives in
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: court with them. Those women are taking their kids and
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: running for the hills. One has already filed for divorce. Okay,
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: they're going to turn evidence on them. They're beautiful young women,
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: they have some young children, a newborn baby. They're not
• 38:22
  Speaker 9: sticking around for this. And the third thing I want
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: to get back to we're not talking enough about is
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: that oldest brother with his security firm. There is video evidence.
• 38:32
  Speaker 9: Where are all those videos going? I guarantee, I hope
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: we have a forensic accountant coming along. That they have
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: been uploaded not only to control their victims and to
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: scare them, they have been uploaded to porn sites where
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: these monsters make millions and millions of.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Dollars across the globe.
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: And these are things we should be looking at.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Karen, start joining me, renowned psychologists joining us out of
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Manhattan tonight. Karen, I haven't told you this story about
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the twins. And now I have bought on all their devices.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: They know I have Bark on all their devices. So
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I got an alert about my son who scrubbed in Sunshine,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: an alert from Bark. I'm my uh oh, what happened
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: on Fortnite? I look and it said sex. I'm like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: so it shows you what it was. Okay, I get
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: an alert every time something disturbing comes up. For instance,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: one time it said self harm. It was of him
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: taken a picture of a bruise he got diving through
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: a soccer net to save a goal.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was self harm. This about sex. Guess what
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: it was, Karen Stark. It was the Nancy Gray Show.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: It was a banner the program we did about Blake Lively,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: and it had the word sex harass in it. The
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Nancy Gray Show popped up on his bark. So my
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: point is, where were the parents?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at Bark every time I get an alert,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: and they're never any where. Were the parents? Lynn is right?
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: You know what's so outrageous, Nancy, is that these same
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: parents are saying that they want to give a billion
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: dollars and they'll make sure that these guys have no
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: opportunity to do anything. They won't face the ocean, they
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: will make sure that they can't do any harm. But meanwhile,
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: there was the van parked outside their very own home.
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: And what they didn't know what their voice were doing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: They didn't hear any of the rumors, they didn't investigate.
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: It's as though they supported all of this.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, Karen Stark, you know what. Of course the parents
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: aren't charged with anything, but I would have been right
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: there at that van.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Come out everybody. I mean, no way that said.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Let me give everyone the eight hundred line one, eight
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: hundred two two five five three two four repeat eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred two two five five three two four.
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  Speaker 2: We wait as just as sun falls. Goodbye, friend,