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129: Freaks and Fine Art · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 4: They got an awful.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of coffee in Brazil.
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  Speaker 4: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 4: And today we have with us a special guest, someone
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  Speaker 4: I've been trying to scam into doing this for quite
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  Speaker 4: a while now, and today's the first time he had
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  Speaker 4: nothing better to do, I suppose. We can welcome Matt
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  Speaker 4: to the show.
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  Speaker 11: Hello.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want to go by any of their special
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  Speaker 4: street names.
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  Speaker 3: Matt works. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Matt works.
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  Speaker 3: The guy that works with Brian.
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  Speaker 4: They don't know that. On this show, this is my job.
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  Speaker 1: Brian's a professional podcaster, right?
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  Speaker 4: Movie talkerer. So, yes, it is time once again for
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  Speaker 4: another episode of the Caffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 1: Cappuccino on my butt. I still drink coffee.
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  Speaker 2: The last fucking thing you need is another cup of coffee.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Decaffeinated Movie Geek.
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  Speaker 4: We're coming to you live via digital recording from Nancy's
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  Speaker 4: Bagel Grounds. And we'll get together, drink coffee, talk movies,
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  Speaker 4: and probably offend some people. So, once again, our friends
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  Speaker 4: at Columbia River Coffee have provided this coffee. And, Greg,
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  Speaker 4: since Marlena's not here, I said before, you've become the fallback.
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  Speaker 4: You're like the bench version of our spokesmodel. So, Greg,
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  Speaker 4: I ask you, what blend of coffee are we drinking
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  Speaker 4: this week?
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  Speaker 1: Fishers and Fallers. Ah, I see.
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  Speaker 4: And this is a new one for you.
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  Speaker 1: And delicious.
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  Speaker 3: It is. It is quite good.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so with that... I was doing hand motions
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  Speaker 4: when I introduced... I would hope so, as any good
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  Speaker 4: spokesmodel should do.
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  Speaker 5: I still do hand motions.
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  Speaker 4: Those aren't hand motions. That's just an inappropriate movement with
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  Speaker 4: your hand. Please stop that.
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  Speaker 1: Good thing it's all mint.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought people would want to know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't meant to be an all-men podcast this week.
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  Speaker 4: Marlena was going to be here and had to work,
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  Speaker 4: and I actually only threw the invite out to three people.
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  Speaker 4: Matt showed up. The other two were both women, actually,
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  Speaker 4: and they just obviously had better things to do.
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  Speaker 3: Glad I was high on your list, but hey, I'll
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  Speaker 3: take it.
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  Speaker 4: Out of all of the world, there were only three
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  Speaker 4: people I asked. Now think about that.
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  Speaker 3: I accept it.
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  Speaker 6: Are we going, since it's all males, are we going
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  Speaker 6: to review truck stop women today?
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  Speaker 11: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: He's still making hand motions.
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  Speaker 1: His hands are under the table.
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  Speaker 4: I think he just finished watching truck stop. Really, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it would matter. Have you been around the
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  Speaker 4: women on our show?
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  Speaker 7: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: They probably enjoy that.
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  Speaker 4: Usually the ones that are more offensive and more misogynist
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  Speaker 4: are the women on our show.
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  Speaker 3: You're right.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I really don't think we have to dial
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  Speaker 4: it back anything, regardless of whether they're here.
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  Speaker 6: Wasn't Marlena the one that said that the prostitute that
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  Speaker 6: got beat up by the ShamWow guy deserved it?
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  Speaker 4: She was asking for it.
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  Speaker 1: She was asking for it, so yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's just one of many lovely, lovely things we've said
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  Speaker 4: on our show. It's our crew. You've got to love them.
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  Speaker 4: So with that, we will roll on into this week's
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  Speaker 4: geek activities, I suppose. For mine, I watched one this morning.
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  Speaker 4: And again, trying to upload the last episode because the
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  Speaker 4: internet was fighting me. I don't know what it was doing,
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  Speaker 4: but it took like an extra day just to finish
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  Speaker 4: getting all our rambling pieced into one thing. And then
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  Speaker 4: get it uploaded. So while I was doing that, I
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  Speaker 4: was trying to find something useful to watch. And I
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  Speaker 4: came across one that seemed like it wouldn't involve too
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  Speaker 4: much thought. And if anything, Greg, you'll probably think I'm
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  Speaker 4: doing research. It was entitled, The 50 Worst Movies Ever Made.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, I've seen this.
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  Speaker 4: On our ever-plugged Netflix?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen this one.
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  Speaker 4: I was just scrolling past, and I was like, ah.
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  Speaker 2: Damn it.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with the list, but.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, actually.
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  Speaker 4: Again, it's one of those like that... I've never thought
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  Speaker 4: you could pin that kind of stuff down. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's like.
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  Speaker 4: What you think is bad is not the same thing
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  Speaker 4: what other people are going to think is bad. What
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people think is bad is usually what
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  Speaker 4: I go looking for in a movie. Or sometimes there's
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  Speaker 4: an entirely separate list that that will be placed very
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  Speaker 4: high on. So, yeah, I disagree with... A lot of
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  Speaker 4: them are very expected. I mean, Ed Wood's on there
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  Speaker 4: at least three times. I mean, like, well, big surprise.
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  Speaker 4: And to me, that's an entirely different category of, like,
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  Speaker 4: awesome and bad.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, this.
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  Speaker 4: So it's interesting, I guess... It's not really a documentary
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  Speaker 4: as much as it is a list that they read.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And they show clips from sometimes more lengthy than others.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes it's like a good, you know, five minutes on
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  Speaker 4: this movie. Other times it's like 38 seconds, and they're like, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, next.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's all right. I won't say it's great.
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  Speaker 4: It's pretty low budget, I'd say, because there's just voiceover
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  Speaker 4: and scenes. It's done almost VH1 style list, only without
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  Speaker 4: all the personality. Right. It's just a guy reading some
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  Speaker 4: names and making a few snide comments.
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  Speaker 1: And canned clapping and canned laughter.
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  Speaker 4: And throwing food at the screen, which is funny the
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  Speaker 4: first time, but by the 50th time, you're kind of
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  Speaker 4: over it.
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  Speaker 1: I know there are.
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  Speaker 6: At least 10 Mystery Science Theater movies that should have
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  Speaker 6: made that list. You know, things like Howard the Duck.
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  Speaker 1: Granted, it's not a great movie.
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  Speaker 6: But it shouldn't be, I think it was like number
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  Speaker 6: eight or somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty low on the list.
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  Speaker 3: Or was it?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, maybe I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm quite fond of Power of the Duck, actually.
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  Speaker 4: I was until we went back and re-watched it for
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  Speaker 4: the show.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it since USA's up all night. But
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  Speaker 3: back then it held my attention.
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  Speaker 4: For many a times, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I've watched it more than once.
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  Speaker 4: That was the thing. I loved that movie to death
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  Speaker 4: when I was a kid, and I had not watched
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  Speaker 4: it in years until we went back and did our
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  Speaker 4: whole episode on it. And I went, wow, you know
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  Speaker 4: what everybody said about this movie? They were kind of right.
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  Speaker 4: It's got its moments that I still enjoy, Leah Thompson,
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  Speaker 4: but so much of it is still just really bad,
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  Speaker 4: like they've said for years now.
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  Speaker 1: So what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 5: I've heard some discussions of just what was the worst
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  Speaker 5: movie ever made.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if those would come up. Like, Myra Breckenridge
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  Speaker 5: was one theory of the worst. It's based on a
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  Speaker 5: Gore Vidal book. Raquel Welch gets a sex change operation
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  Speaker 5: and a sex change operation back.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know about the worst movie ever made, but.
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  Speaker 5: Gore Vidal said it was the first case where A
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  Speaker 5: movie was based on a book, and after the movie came.
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  Speaker 2: Out, sales of the book stopped.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: He said he never saw another residual after the movie
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  Speaker 2: came out. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Nice work.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Once you've seen Raquel Welch, there's no reason to.
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  Speaker 13: Right.
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  Speaker 1: At least you've got Raquel Welch.
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  Speaker 3: Your imagination's not going to be better than that.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many.
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  Speaker 6: To me, there were so many on that list that
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  Speaker 6: I had not heard of and thought.
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  Speaker 1: That looks great, in my mind.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, there's that level of it's so bad,
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  Speaker 6: I guess that bell curve, that it has to be good.
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  Speaker 6: And so, well, like Ed Wood, there are so many
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  Speaker 6: people that can sit down and appreciate an Ed Wood movie.
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  Speaker 4: As well you should.
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  Speaker 6: And have a great time. And no, it should not
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  Speaker 6: be on that list, according to those qualifications.
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  Speaker 1: Whereas.
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  Speaker 4: According to our qualifications.
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  Speaker 1: According to our qualifications. But, you know, there are several.
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  Speaker 6: mainstream big movies that i couldn't sit through yeah so smoking.
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  Speaker 5: A movie has to be good enough to be like
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  Speaker 5: really bad you.
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  Speaker 2: Have to like be involved enough to if it's just
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  Speaker 2: like really bad then it doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: Even rank it's mediocre it doesn't count that was the
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  Speaker 4: sad part I was going through going oh maybe there
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  Speaker 4: will be a lot of them I haven't heard no
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  Speaker 4: I was going through out of 50 and I was
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  Speaker 4: like I'm not claiming I've seen them all I've seen
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  Speaker 4: a good amount a lot of them were the 80s
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  Speaker 4: ones I have to say but yeah there was there
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  Speaker 4: were maybe two or three that I hadn't heard of
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  Speaker 4: right But the really scary part is I wrote those down.
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  Speaker 4: So live in fear because you know they're going on
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  Speaker 4: the list now.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Is Smokey and the Bandit on the list?
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  Speaker 8: That's a movie I recently watched where, well, actually I
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  Speaker 8: started to watch three.
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  Speaker 3: It was like Burt Reynolds and Sally, is it Struthers?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: Fields.
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  Speaker 3: Sally Fields.
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  Speaker 2: Sally Fields.
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  Speaker 8: Which is why number one's a good movie because she's adorable.
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  Speaker 4: In that too. You don't get that in the third one,
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  Speaker 4: which the third one was actually on the list.
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  Speaker 14: Was it?
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  Speaker 3: The second one with the elephant could make the list
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Is there some movie going around now that's like one
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  Speaker 2: of the worst movies? Gnomes? Is it Gnomes?
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  Speaker 1: No, it's Troll 2.
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  Speaker 2: Troll 2.
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  Speaker 4: It's the worst movie. Yeah, Troll 2. Yeah, and it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty epic in its ridiculousness.
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  Speaker 6: When people go out and see it in late night
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  Speaker 6: theaters and fill the auditorium, You cannot put it in.
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  Speaker 4: As the worst movie of all time. Well, what's weird
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  Speaker 4: is that it wasn't even on that list.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Troll was.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Which Troll was like nothing compared to Troll 2, but
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  Speaker 4: Troll was on there at the bottom of the list.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, there's a lot of worse movies than Troll.
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  Speaker 4: Troll's just a bad horror movie.
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  Speaker 5: I think sometimes it's the setup for expectation. For me, Godfather.
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  Speaker 2: 3... Right.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you there.
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  Speaker 2: Godfather 3.
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  Speaker 3: I am with you.
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  Speaker 4: You got the one-two punch of one and two.
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  Speaker 5: I'm still waiting for somebody to say, we're going to
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  Speaker 5: make Godfather 3 like that never happened.
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  Speaker 4: We need a reboot.
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  Speaker 6: Well, then does it qualify as the most disappointing? Is
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  Speaker 6: that what makes it that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because if a movie is just really terrible from
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  Speaker 5: the beginning, I'm probably not going to even see the
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  Speaker 5: rest of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's just let's not just change the channel or something.
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  Speaker 6: Phantom Menace I would put on that list the biggest
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  Speaker 6: disappointment that just that took my childhood and beat it.
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  Speaker 4: And there was so much build up like even if
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  Speaker 4: It would just come out of nowhere. You'd be like,
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  Speaker 4: if there would have been like a weekend of, wow,
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  Speaker 4: this new movie, let's go see it. But it was
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  Speaker 4: how many years of, okay, he's working on it. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: he's probably going to make it. And then like when
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  Speaker 4: people were paying multiple ticket prices to go see that
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  Speaker 4: trailer when it opened. I mean, that's how you know
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  Speaker 4: the anticipation was kind of out of hand at that point.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that they could make a movie about a kid
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  Speaker 6: dying of cancer and his– drive across the country to
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  Speaker 6: go see it, to see the release of it. That
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  Speaker 6: shows you how big of it, and that's how big
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  Speaker 6: it was. I would have, you know, as a young
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  Speaker 6: person before that came out, I would have, yeah, if
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  Speaker 6: I knew that I was dying, I would have found it,
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  Speaker 6: and then I would have found a way to stay alive.
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  Speaker 4: To beat him. Beat him with a stuffed Jar Jar.
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  Speaker 5: My last wish is that somebody go kick this guy's
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  Speaker 5: ass for me.
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  Speaker 13: The make-a-wish make-a-wish foundation just getting like a couple of
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  Speaker 13: pro wrestlers to volunteer.
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  Speaker 4: I'll do it okay i'll take that that's awesome.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna get a turn on let's just i want
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  Speaker 6: you to.
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  Speaker 5: Kick his ass then i want you to reenact kicking
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  Speaker 5: his ass one of my favorite king of the hill
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  Speaker 5: lines I'm going to kick your ass and then I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to reenact kicking your.
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  Speaker 2: Ass.
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  Speaker 4: Nice. I think the best thing that's come out of
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  Speaker 4: this little quote unquote documentary is the fact that I
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  Speaker 4: think that needs to be a future grind topic. What's
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  Speaker 4: the worst movie? And then just spin an episode. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: bring their own list. Everybody bring their own. We can
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  Speaker 4: have people write in. We can come up with just
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  Speaker 4: criteria of what makes it in there or what falls
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  Speaker 4: into different categories. So yeah, I think that's We're throwing
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  Speaker 4: that on the list.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of worth a watch. I think the
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  Speaker 4: best thing about it is it's only an hour long,
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  Speaker 4: so you don't invest any more than that. You might
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  Speaker 4: see one or two you haven't seen before.
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  Speaker 6: The one that I still haven't seen that's on that list,
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  Speaker 6: and I think you've even done a promo for it
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  Speaker 6: on this show, is the thing with the two heads.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That looks like one of the best... bad
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  Speaker 1: movies i've ever.
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  Speaker 4: Seen yeah i mean how can you think that's bad
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  Speaker 4: like a regular bad movie i mean these two guys
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  Speaker 4: are jammed next to each other pretending they're in one
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  Speaker 4: of just the the special effect alone is enough to
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  Speaker 4: watch it for an hour and a half and it's.
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  Speaker 6: It's literally like a shirt with the guy standing behind
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  Speaker 6: him shoving his head through and it wasn't like a
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  Speaker 6: gangster it's like a white dude.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's a racist little white dude and like
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  Speaker 4: a young black guy and then he grabs his head
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  Speaker 4: onto the side of his head and yeah.
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  Speaker 15: That's a classic yeah yeah they put that as in
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  Speaker 15: the top it was in the top 10 it was
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  Speaker 15: yeah i think it's top five yeah it was way
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  Speaker 15: up there i'm like i don't know this i mean
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  Speaker 15: who doesn't want to see this come on so yeah
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  Speaker 15: it's it's a little be.
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  Speaker 2: A sitcom it's a great setup it.
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  Speaker 1: Should Ed Asner and Michael Clark Duncan.
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  Speaker 4: I'd watch that every week. Tebow, that shit. Alright, so yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Moving on. I was thinking the only other thing that
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  Speaker 4: seems like I've watched lately that I haven't talked about.
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  Speaker 4: I did go back and watch Bitch Slap. Yeah, which
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  Speaker 4: if you're yeah, if you're a longtime listener, you'll know
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  Speaker 4: we didn't. Well, I did an entire show about it,
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  Speaker 4: but not like a discussing the movie. I did an
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  Speaker 4: interview segment with two out of three of the main stars.
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  Speaker 4: And that gets into like a weird area of like
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  Speaker 4: and that's why I usually don't like, you know, want
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  Speaker 4: to talk to people and then turn around and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: and here's what I think of the movie. Usually it's
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: very separate modes, and I feel like you can kind
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: of do that. It's like that was well before the
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: movie came out, and it was just talking to them
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: about the making of, and I kind of like that
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: as sort of its own thing. I'm kind of glad
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: to do that as its own separate thing versus us
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: yammering on about movies, which is an entirely different type
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: of show. So I kind of like doing that because
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: you also got a lot of behind-the-scenes stories that, you know,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: watching the movie, you get a whole new appreciation for, actually, so... Yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: it was different going back and watching and having gone
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: through that a couple of years ago. But it's interesting. Finally,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I sort of put it off for a long time,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: kind of because of that. Because I was a little...
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: In the beginning, I was almost too close to that.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, now I've talked to
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: two of the three of them. Maybe I'll just leave
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: it alone for a while. So I finally was like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: all right, it's on that thing that we keep mentioning.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: I can watch it for free. I'll sit here and
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: watch it. So, yeah, I... I have my issues with it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: We'll put it that way.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: The thing is, there's actually a lot of good stuff
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: in there. It's a weird mixture of a movie.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I don't even know this movie. What's the plot of
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: this movie?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You can't really say the plot.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, here's basically the plot. And this is how
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I know, like, I know this movie's in trouble when
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I have a problem with it because it's basically Faster
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Pussycat Kill Kill, only a little different. But, I mean,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: there's definitely... drawing so heavily. I mean, it opens up
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: with three chicks getting out of a cool car and
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: it focuses on their boobs for most of the movie.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, how can you not? And even they don't.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, they freely admit that they're totally inspired by
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Russ Meyer and they're inspired by all these old exploitation movies. So,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's very much trying to be those. It's
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: seeking that out, really. So, I mean, you give them
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: a little license because of that, because they're trying to
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: do that. So it is sort of the same thing
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: they were doing with Machete or any of these other
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: really heavy, trying-to-be-an-exploitation-movie kind of thing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: It almost wasn't exploitation enough. Not that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 16: It was.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: It was like the wrong kind of exploitation. It seems
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: like to me. Because it was inspired by.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: What did you say?
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: To me, I mean, it's inspired by a lot of them,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: but it's very heavily Faster Pussycat Kill Kill. I mean,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: it's three girls in the desert.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: But that was largely inspired by boobs, and you have
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: to stick.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: With the.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: Original source of inspiration. And they do not stray.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: That's my guess. It's guns and boobs and violence.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: If you're not inspired by boobs, there's something wrong.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Right. Which, on that aspect, the movie's just fine.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: In fact, it's very impressive, let's say.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I said correctly. Making hand gestures.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: That's probably where a lot of people.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I haven't heard of this movie. Yeah,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: and I'm sitting here like, boobs, guns, everything I want.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing, going into it, I'm listening to
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: them do the pitch, I'm watching the trailer, and I'm like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: this is awesome. How can there be anything wrong with this?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: And then I finally get there two years later, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, well, okay, there is some stuff wrong
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: with it. You want it to be fun.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're like, oh, I see where they're going
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: with this.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: And I see where they went wrong, kind of, in
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a way. I mean, the stuff I will say that
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: is good was I like the women involved. If anybody suffers,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: it's America Olivo has the worst dialogue and the worst character, really. So,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not her fault. She does what she can.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: But Aaron Cummings, uh, I talked to her, she's ridiculously smart.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: And like, you can tell, like, she's just, she's kind
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: of really interesting to watch and she does a good
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: amount with, I mean, again, her role is, is a
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: little more interesting. And Marika is just there to be
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: a dog in a chain waiting to attack you. And
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: that's all she is. She has nothing else to offer, but, but,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Erin Cummings' character has a little more and she makes
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: use of it. I think she's actually a really good
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: actress and has since then gone on. She's in Spartacus,
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Blood and Sand. She's in Mad Men now. So it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: like she... I do want to see where she goes
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: because I think she is... Not only, if you watch it,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: she's very attractive, but yeah, talking to her, she's like
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: ridiculously smart. So it's like I kind of hope she
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: ends up in better projects and even those are huge now.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: So I mean, if they... Stick with that kind of
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: stuff and move more into just better property. The one
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: that almost makes it worth watching for me is Julia Voth,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: the stripper with the heart of gold. And she's the
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: one I didn't talk to, but it's like, damn, why
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: didn't I talk to her? She comes off amazing in there. Like, really,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: as much as there is working against her. She comes
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: off like fucking... She is. They have these shots where
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: there's just light emanating from her, and she comes off
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: that well. It's like she is ridiculously adorable. She's also
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: just like her character is the likable one, and she
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: makes it work. And by the end, they kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: do some interesting stuff with her. So, I mean, it's
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: like she... should have gotten drugged down more than she was.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: She just is so damn likable in this movie that
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: had this been a bigger property, this probably would have
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: broke her.
• 21:29
  Speaker 11: Like, I mean, I.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Cannot imagine her not being a huge star if more
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: people would have seen her pull off, you know, this
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: kind of performance in a movie that would have gone
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: over a little better. But yeah, she's pretty amazing for
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: what she has to do. I mean, all she has
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: to do is be cute and wear a gold dress
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: that's ridiculously tight. So, you know, I mean, there's a
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: level where she could just be pulling off on that alone.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: But she brings a little more to that. I think
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: there's something to her that I hope ends up in
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: better projects once again. I think I was looking at
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: her list and I don't see anything else even since
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: then that's something recognizable or a big project. So I
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: really hope she ends up in something bigger. Just as
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: geek cred, though, for the super hardcore geeks out there,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: it is interesting to know she is the model for
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Jill Valentine in Resident Evil. Originally, they scanned her, and
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: she was what became, in the game, Jill Valentine. So,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: kind of interesting from a geek perspective.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Other than that, yeah, it's just... The story itself is
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: a pretty cool idea, but it's just... it suffers so
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: much from the dialogue. The dialogue is so bad, especially
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: everything Amarika has to say. It's just, they, they like
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: go out of her way to give her the worst
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: lines ever.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It's, uh, I don't know.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: They're just trying way too hard to be like, I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: it's like unrealistically obscene. Like the, you know, the kind
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: of stuff that's, you know, I have no problem with
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: obscenity or things being offensive. Obviously I'm on this show, but,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: It's like, it's so forced that it's cringeworthy. It's like
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: they're trying so hard to be offensive. Yeah, it's like
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: they're just, it's trying so hard to push that down
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: your throat that I think it takes away from the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: things that are good in it. And there is some
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: good stuff. Not the weird CGI effects. I don't know
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: what they were thinking. I mean, most of it actually
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: takes place out in the desert and the shots look
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: good there. But they do these cutaways, little plot lines
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: that are in completely and obviously in front of a
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: green screen everything is in front of a green screen
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: and it looks so fake i mean and and as
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: i watched it i was like this is kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: like if uh sucker punch had been made for like
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: 40 bucks because i mean it's it's almost the same
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: thing it's all about hot girls and violence and then
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: they fall into these little cutaway scenes and it goes
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: completely into a cg world and it's like it's follows
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: sort of a lot of similarities there but Here, it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: very obvious that it was green-screened and it looks silly. Again,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know why they would even... I mean, if
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: you can't afford to do super killer green-screen stuff, just
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: write your scene somewhere you can go. It's like, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: don't know why they couldn't have done a lot of
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: those on a location or a soundstage or something that
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: just looked better.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: It actually doesn't look bad. I think the director is
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Rick Jacobson, and The unfortunate part is he's also the co-writer.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: But as far as visuals, I think it looks okay.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: I think it's... But you can see he's got sort
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: of a theme. When I went back to see what
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: else he'd done, and it's a lot of... Well, he
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: actually moved on. He's doing Spartacus, Blood, and Sand, which
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: is actually a step up from what I hear on
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: this one. But if you go back and look at it,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: it's mostly TV work, and it's She Spies, Baywatch, La
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Femme Nikita, Cleopatra 2525, Xena. Do you see a pattern here?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: He likes his scantily clad ass-kicking chicks.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: No, but that's the thing. Most of these other ones
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: are still, like, a little above, you know? It's like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Xena episodes were a little smarter than this entire movie.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: And that's, you know, as entertaining as Xena was, he
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: didn't really go for the plot, usually. So, no offense.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I like Xena, you know, probably more than I should, but...
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, it had those tie-ins. You had cameos from
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: just about everybody in Xena. It had all this other
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: cool tie-ins to this other stuff. And the fight scenes
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: are awesome, thanks to Zoe Bell. Zoe Bell's awesome. She's
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: got a little cameo in it. You can see, I mean,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: they put together one of the longest... I think their
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: billing was the longest chick fight scene ever in cinematic history.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: And it is. It goes on forever. But it's like
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: everything else in the movie. It just becomes gratuitous. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: it's just... I know it's supposed to be grindhouse and
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: it's supposed to be exploitation, but it's just a little off.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Whatever it's trying to do, it's just a little off.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I can't say I love it as
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: a whole, but I like some of its parts, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: you can take that as the innuendo if you want,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: because if you watch the movie, yeah, they glorify those
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: parts really well. It's a very mixed bag. So, that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: what I've watched lately.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Greg?
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: It's my turn?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: That's both.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: I watched, this week, I watched the movie Black Death.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Ah, I've heard of it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's Boromir, basically, I think he's still, it's the same,
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: it's probably his same outfit. I think they probably asked
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: for him to just bring that back from Lord of
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: the Rings. Sean Bean, the actor, the one that dies
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: in the first one. And then the other main actor
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: is Eddie Redmayne. The thing that I know him from
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: is the Pillars of.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: The Earth.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Miniseries.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: He's the architect's son or adopted son, whatever he is.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: This is about the.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Bubonic plague has broken out and the church sends out
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: a death squad because there's one village that hasn't been
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: touched by it yet.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: And they believe that there's a witch there who is
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: a necromancer. And that that's why they're... It's all about
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: that religious fear. And they play on it well. She
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: plays on it well. She almost does it intentionally. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: so these guys are mercenaries and badasses. And Ed Redmayne
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: is a monk that is from that area. and he's
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: already struggling with secular life versus monastic life kind of thing. It's,
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: it's got a lot of, you know, religious ideas to
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: it and a lot of, a lot of stuff that
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: it brings up.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: It's shot really well.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Um, the feel is very, um, you know, ominous and just,
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: I'm sure exactly how it felt at the time. Just,
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: you have no options. You're going to die. Everybody else,
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: everybody in your family is probably going to die. You
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: can turn to the church or you can turn to
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: witchcraft or, you know, whatever for solace.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And it's not, it's probably not going to help.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: They do a good job of, you know, playing off
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: of what's real and what's not.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And, and, uh, paranoia.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: It's, especially if you like, you know, swords and badasses
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: and that, that sort of thing.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It's, it's that kind of movie.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: It, It leaves you feeling almost helpless, though, because no
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: one's painted in a good picture, obviously.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: You know, are the heroes really the heroes? That kind
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of a film.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: These were dark times.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: And it's fun to watch.
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: The acting, especially the Eddie Redmayne, he goes through a
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: lot of transitions and does a pretty good job with it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a fun watch.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: If you like people dying.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: If you like people dying, yeah, you know.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: You had me, but you didn't mention boobs.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: There are no boobs in it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 14: No boobs.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: They're rotting and falling off, but they're there.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: There is, you know, chicks coming out of the ground,
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: you know, dressed in white. Those Ghost boots? They're not
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: even ghost boots. You don't get to see anything like that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: You know, if it weren't for the violence, it would
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: probably be a PG-13 or less.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Other than it's just such a heavy movie. There's no gratuitous...
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: sexuality at all.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Never mind.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Right, never mind.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, this is a testosterone-filled episode.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Why are we talking about it, right?
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I can't think of anything else. This is a short
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: week for me, so I can't think of anything else
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: that I've seen or done lately that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Has any relevance.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: It's a good watch. It is available for you to
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: watch for free.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: On that thing.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: On that thing.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: It's not promoting us, but yeah, we mention them everywhere.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't promote it. Look, I'm poor, so I'm
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: not going to go rent a movie. Me too.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: So, There's several things in the theater right now I'd
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: like to see. Right. But they're not free.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Which is why I watched that this morning.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: I can't justify, yeah, I can't justify renting when I've
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: got it all ready for free.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So, I'll defer to Fred.
• 30:38
  Speaker 17: Oh.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: That's right. I'm here.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I forgot.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I had kind of a short week too.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Not a lot going on.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: I got like really disoriented. I went traveling and came
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: back and then sort of had lost the thread of
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: my life.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Do you want to tell people? I don't know if
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: we mentioned on the show where you were going.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: You went twice a trip. Yeah, I went to Florence
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: with my daughter. She was just going to go. My
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: sister was teaching there and my daughter was going to
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: go visit. But then my wife was a little concerned
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: about her traveling alone. I'm like, she can track. She
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: would have been fine. But then my aunt wanted to
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: go visit my sister. And so my wife felt like Oh, well,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: she can look after her, you know. But no, once
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: my aunt was gone, I knew I had to go.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Because I didn't want my daughter to have to take
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: care of my aunt. Which, you know, was so true.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: My aunt went over there. She had no money.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: She brought her checkbook.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: They won't even take your check at the quickie mart
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: down the street.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: And, you know, Italy in particular has its own banking
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: system that And you just couldn't explain it to her.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: I had told her and told her, you know, call
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: your visa, you know, and tell them you're going to
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: be traveling.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: She didn't. So it was just the whole thing. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: think I maybe slept three to four hours the entire week.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Or ten days we were there.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: It was exhausting. But it was great, you know. And
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: my aunt, you know, she had trouble getting around.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And it's a walking situation. You know, and.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: So we did that, and the whole time, like on
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: the way there, like the night before on the plane,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I thought it would be a good time for my
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: daughter to see Bicycle.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Thief, which is a.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Movie I like a lot. Some people call it Bicycle Thieves.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: They argue about the title.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: We never got to do that.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: We just never found time. And then I get there,
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: and my sister has it. Because she's teaching, and she
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: teaches film and fiction is one of her classes. So
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: she's got that, and we get into an argument about it,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: sort of, because she's like, yeah, it's not really one
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: of the better movies of that.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I really like it. I said, well, wait a minute.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: I like it because I like, you know, a lot
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: of my favorite movies wind up being movies that have
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: kids in them because there's just something really poignant to
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: me about the way kids are born into the world
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: and have to make themselves at home, whatever craziness is
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: going on. And there's always something and they deal with it.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: And I just, she's like, nah, I think kids are resilient.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: So you don't really care what happens to them.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: They'll get over it. I'm like, well, I guess you've
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: got a point there.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Um, it sounds like most of our staff sounds like
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: our attitude toward children on this show. Yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And you know, I can, No, seriously, I see she
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: has a point.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: She wanted us to watch Il Posto, which we never
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: got around to because we didn't do anything except eat
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: and walk around and eat more.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: It is Italy. Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, and right before I left, I watched The American.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Which was kind of a tie-in.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of a tie-in. I was disappointed in it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: It was not thriller enough, a little too intellectual. And
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: I didn't really buy the intellectual part of it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: It just didn't add up.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: It had one of those things like in Dostoevsky that
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: I've never liked, this pairing of the killer with the
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: hooker with a heart of gold.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It's like, what kind of a pendant pair is that?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Because her crime is nothing compared to his. I mean,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: what sort of situation.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Are you like?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: On the one hand, the killer.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: A guy.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Who kills people for money. And a woman who has
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: sex with people for money.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: The money. That's the tie-in right there.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: And also, just now, whenever I watch George Clooney, I'm
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: always worried about his back.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I heard he had that back injury. I'm like, looks
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: like he's walking funny. Is he okay?
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: You're screaming at the screen. Don't lift that.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Don't. With your knees.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: No.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: With your knees.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: So then I get back and try to remember where
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I left off. And we watch.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Il Posto, which is about a young guy who gets
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: a job. He's a really cute guy. He looks a little.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Like young Bob Dylan.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: In places he has sort of the same gestures and
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: um I I'm sort of doing them so you can
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: see still.
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: Has one hand under the table yeah well you know Dylan.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: But that was that was a really good movie it's
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: definitely worth seeing and it's just what it is you
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: know you watch this kid get a job and and
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: then he didn't really quite get the job but they've
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: got one so he'll be a messenger for a while
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: and then he'll get the job and uh And it
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: just plays out over those very, you know, very acutely
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: observed scenes. So that's definitely something I'd recommend.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: I'd never seen it before.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: And on the plane I saw an episode, they had
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: one episode of Boardwalk Empire.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: I've heard really good things.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Which, you know, it was out of context. It wasn't
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the pilot.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I didn't really know what was going on, but I'd
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: watch it just for the look and feel of it. Just,
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: you know, you can tell it's got so much talent
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: in it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Anything with pissy.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, then there was, let's see.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, I finished up watching a series I really like,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: which is found, I don't know, called Party Down.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: I've heard nothing but good stuff about that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that so much. I can't believe it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Didn't survive i can because that's what happens every.
• 37:04
  Speaker 18: Show i know it was so good it's and it's
• 37:07
  Speaker 18: kind of i think i especially like it because i've
• 37:10
  Speaker 18: determined over the years that my favorite kind of story
• 37:15
  Speaker 18: is a story about people who set out on an
• 37:18
  Speaker 18: adventure which is a really bad idea.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: And then things go terribly wrong and it's like it's
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: predictable i mean you kind of think This doesn't seem
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: like a good thing for people to do. And then
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: they do it anyway because they're human. Because that's what
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: people do. And then it just goes bad.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I love that. I don't know what it is. That's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: my story.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: You're sadistic.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I just really like it. Even if it's documentaries. I
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: love those like Touching the Void. Two guys go.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: To climb a mountain. And it goes horribly wrong.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I love that, man. That's so great.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: But these people are all people who went into acting.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: And it's not working out. Well, it's mostly all people
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: who are actors and comedians.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: While they're all caterers.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now they're all catering people. And they're
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: catering to people who are on the other side. They're
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: catering to people who are in the business.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: And they're always brushing up against everything they envy and resent.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: The one guy even runs into his old writing partner
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: who's like a sellout and he's making a million dollars.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And he only invited them to just rub it in
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: his face. Oh, it's so great. It's amazing.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: And the cast, everybody in it is just fantastic. So
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I've watched it to the end, and I guess now
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: I'll start over or something.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised I made it this far without seeing it,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: because I know it's also got Kirsten Ballard in it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, yeah, the fact that I've made it and
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: haven't watched it is kind of amazing. Definitely it's on
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the list. I'm going to have to watch it.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, once you start.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know how we got onto it. It's on
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: that thing that has free stuff you can watch.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you all heard of that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. The internet thing.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something. It hooks up and you just watch stuff.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: It's cool. But we ran out of something we were watching.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: We got to the end. It's like, oh, what are
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: we going to do? That looks good.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: We suggest this for you.
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Like, why does this machine know me better than I
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: know myself?
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: It has, like, some of the people from Freaks and
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Geeks and other people.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, really? Yeah.
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to watch it. Yeah, it's tie-ins from so
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: many other shows.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Like, everybody.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Some of them just work in a couple episodes, but yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: it ties in a lot of really interesting cast members.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: And I noticed there's something, like Paul Rudd worked on it,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: probably before I ever heard of him. But there's something
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: about him and other projects he's done that ties into it.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: It's like you can see he has some creative influence.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: And I guess I decided, he's really got something going on.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: He's got something... he understands and can be really funny with.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: You seem like you shouldn't like him as much as
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: you end up liking him. He seems like he's in
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: such mainstream stuff a lot of the time that you're
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: just like, oh, Paul Rudd again.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: And then every once in a while you're like, huh,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: he's actually really good in this, or, oh, I didn't
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: know he did this. Yeah. He's sort of got a
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: little more street cred than I guess you would expect
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: out of him.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, this show definitely elevated his profile for me.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of the other stuff he's done is.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Mainstream, but you see traces of whatever it is he has. Especially,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: I think, wasn't he the guy in 40-Year-Old Virgin who
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: was drunk and obsessive?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: He was in that. I don't know about the drunk part.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: He's the one that... Him and Seth Rogen... um, played
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: off of each other.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I know how I know you're gay, but also
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: didn't he have like the girlfriend who had dumped him
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: and he was just like falling apart.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: That thought they could get back together.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah. That thing, there's something there that, uh, I think
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: he really knows something about. Right.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I think he really does.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: He's still trying to get over Phoebe.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's kind of my, my geek week. Uh,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Didn't he.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: What did he change his name to? Ballsack or something
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: like that? I forget what that was. It was... You
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: tell me.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Oh, Banana Hammock is what he changed his name to.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: His character on Friends.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, Lord.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the problem that you have with it,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: is he was on Friends.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You know, those sorts of things. He's too mainstream, but
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: he's also too good, you know.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: and it took him so long. I mean, it took
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: him 15, 20 years really before he worked himself up
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: to that point. I mean, he was go back and
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: look at him in like these little parts years and
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: years ago. And so yeah, it's weird. It took that
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: long for him to hit the mainstream really.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: For a long time. He's been that guy.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: He was always Cher's brother.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: That's why I wasn't.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: Even, that's why I wasn't even sure about, um, Whether
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: that was him, because he was that guy, you.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Know, when I saw that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: He was, oh, that guy.
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: He just always shares brother to me. Who she ends
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: up screwing around with. It's not Kentucky. All right, so
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: that is it for you, Matt. Your geek activities.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: My geek activities. If I could narrow them down.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: If that's possible.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: I am playing a lot of SNES games.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Mario Kart.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Just had to throw that in there.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: I wanted to mention the girl who's like the basic...
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: I was actually the model for Luigi. It's just part
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: of my cred.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I've noticed when you walk, actually, he's got a very
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: specific walk. Right. He's really tall with short legs. I
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: gave him my wings.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It's like to.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: The old country.
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: It's a me, a Luigi.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: It's part of my geek cred.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I thought I'd.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Toss it out.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I had to throw out the Mario Brothers. I had to.
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: I just completed, to go along with that, the new
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Super Mario for the Wii.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: My son and I just completed it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Well, this is the absolute truth. My daughter is driving now.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: And when she was learning to drive, and like one
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: of the first times we got out on the road
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: where she could open up, somebody threw a banana. out
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: of a window and it freaked her out because like
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: in Mario Kart that's.
• 43:49
  Speaker 19: Your dangerous that's your axe I didn't know what to
• 43:53
  Speaker 19: do because in Mario Kart nothing would happen and she.
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: Really you know kind of shocked her uh oh the.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Whole car started spinning.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah any Mario games after the Super Nintendo I can't
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: play they start spinning and flying and no basically I
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: can break blocks and spit fireballs.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: Kill turtles you can that to me is the mario
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: brothers float down.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: With your raccoon tail i could do that in three.
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah three but uh i've had a lot of mario
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: over the years so it's it's classic.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: You can't fight mario he's awesome but.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: Uh watching a lot of it's always sunny in philadelphia
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: i had to throw that out there it is just
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: absolute classic classic in the making.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: You're minorly obsessed with this.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I am, and I actually went and re-watched Macon County Line.
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: I love this movie. This movie has nobody in it.
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: It has Jethro from the Beverly Hillbillies.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: He plays this hit cop, or sheriff.
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: And these two guys that set out on an adventure
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: think they're going to go out on an adventure, and
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: it just goes.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Terribly wrong, just like you were saying. And, you know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: there you go. You have a movie. But, uh, If
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: you haven't seen it, I recommend going to Big Lots.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: It's available for $ 3.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: That other place that we're not playing?
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will not mention the other place that is online.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Big Lots, you can send your checks over to Ryan.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: I was motivated to watch a lot of movies this week,
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: and I just did not do it. Renoir, I was like, okay,
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: I'm going to watch this movie called Les Boulets.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: It's like Star Wars. Reading it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: I was like, you know, just not in the mood
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: for it. And that's when I threw in Smokey and
• 45:36
  Speaker 8: the Bandit.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, see?
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: You know, go to the old standby.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: That's how our brains work. We really want to watch
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: these really sophisticated films.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it would make me sound intelligent.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: We end up watching boobs in cars.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm into.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we love.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: That is what I'm into.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: If Mario had boobs in cars, I'd never leave my house.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: That princess is pretty hot.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, princess, if you get a
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: little profile on her.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: It does have cars, too.
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: That's why we keep coming back to it.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I just lost my whole train of thought.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Boobs.
• 46:08
  Speaker 14: Boobs.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: And then what.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Were we talking about?
• 46:12
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: We're genetically designed to stop thinking when we see boobs.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Anything else?
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I just dropped the ball on you.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: I was not prepared for that.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: If you can, think of anything else. Anything else you
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: haven't been watching?
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: I really just went blank on you.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I really did.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: I apologize.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: I mean, I recently watched Clay Pigeons. It's got Janine Garofalo,
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: who ruins the movie for me.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: As much as I like her, she seems out of place.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: It was the one time I actually kind of liked
• 46:46
  Speaker 8: Vince Vaughn, aside from Swingers.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: He's a tough sell.
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: Every time he plays a Midwestern person, he seems to
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: irritate me a little bit.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, are you making fun of me? Would you
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: stop making fun of me?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Nice. If you take him in.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Clay Pigeons, he is exactly the same person in the
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: remake of Psycho. He acts exactly the same.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: He did well in Into the Wild. He was in
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: it for two scenes, but it didn't seem like it
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: was him.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, but that's one thing that I know
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: he's pretty good at.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I did read the book.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I read the book.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I have not seen the film.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: We don't talk about books.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: We don't talk about books.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Unless they're comic books or pop-up books.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: We'll see about that in the next thing.
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: That is kind of my nerdism, or my geekism, is
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: reading these Max Allen Collins who did The Roads of Redition.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: Just those, you know, kind of that... pulp fiction just
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: it's got boobs it's got guns it's got cars it's
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: got that detective.
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: That is always gonna win that's what we always come
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: back to all of these that's that's how i escape
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: well that's what those were i mean the whole pulp
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: novel thing it was just b movies in print basically
• 48:02
  Speaker 8: right so yeah it's.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: I really like those confused conversations that happen when you're
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: talking to somebody about something and they're thinking.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Of a book and you're talking.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: About something else.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: You're talking about what you had for dinner last night.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: There was one time this really attractive woman was at
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: work and I'm like, she looked just like one of
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: those Hemingway girls.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: And later I hear the other guy is like, man,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Fred has this really vivid imagination. No, I mean like
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Uriel Hemingway in a movie.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Not in a book. Yeah, quit reading.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: She really looks like words.
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: She looks like Santiago.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: God.
• 48:48
  Speaker 20: Wow.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: I just can't remember which of the Hemingway girls is which.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. One of them was in Manhattan. That's
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: all I know.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Marietta.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: They sound too much alike. That's their problem. They look
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: too much alike, too.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: You know what? I may have always thought they were
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: the same person.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Are they still alive? Did one commit suicide? Or is
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: that just the dad?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: The dad did.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think so, but if they have.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Career suicide, maybe.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like career-wise.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I thought that one, whoever she was in Manhattan, was
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: just fabulous.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I thought she was great, and then I never saw
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: anything again.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: If either of the Hemingway sisters are out there, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: get a hold of us, let us know.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Right, they listen weekly.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: And more importantly, if you are dead, get a hold
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: of us, because that would be awesome. Ghost boobs. Ghost boobs.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: That's what we're always looking for.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: That'd be a good novel.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Ghost boobs. Everybody would buy it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: All you need is a gun and a car.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Sequel to Ghost Dad. All right. I guess with that,
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: we'll take a break. We'll be back with a special
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  Speaker 4: Hi, this is Stephen Jeffries, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. Oh,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: you're so cool, Brewster.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I can't stand it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Steel Pan.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: My wife just texted me. She took the kids to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: see Cars 2.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: They don't go to a lot of theaters and they
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: definitely don't do the thing.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: The kids made her sit in the front row.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: What the hell?
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: And she yawned and her neck is up and she's
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: looking at it and she yawned And she got a
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: charley horse in her throat.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: This is not good at all.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: She was very concerned that something bad was happening to her.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was called Cars 2. Oh, that
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: should have been tagged.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, Lord.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's the Larry the Cable guy.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: That's what kills it for me. I'm just like, I
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: don't mind the McQueen guy.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: And Owen Wilson.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: But, I mean, you know, it's a McQueen tie-in. So
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I'm all right with that. And then
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: you get into the Mater bullshit, and I'm just like,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: I want to tear my fucking nose open.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: My problem with Owen Wilson is I always end up
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: staring at his nose like, did he break it? Or
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: was he born that way? Like, what is happening there?
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's both.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: He was born that way, and the doctor punched him
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: in the face.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: And you're just supposed to slap him on the ass.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: He's like, well, I couldn't help it. Did you see
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: that nose?
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: I really like Luke Wilson, and I can barely stand
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: to watch Owen Wilson.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Do you like the movie Bottle Rocket?
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Bottle Rocket.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, we've got to see that. That's fun. Good.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I will take that down.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I don't mind Owen Wilson. I don't care about his nose.
• 54:00
  Speaker 14: Really?
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: I kind of like seeing somebody who's just that confident
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: with a fucked up face.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Right. That's why you like Mask, right?
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: What?
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I actually never saw that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: You never saw Mask?
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: No. Wow.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I've seen that many times.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Luke is easily as messed up. His is just not
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: as noticeable.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: He's suddenly like... Puffed up like puffed weed.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he always had the jaw. His jaw
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: was always, like, fucking huge. It was weird looking. I'm like,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: this whole family, something ain't right with the DNA. Something's
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: messed up.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Except for they have two sons that are multi-multi-millionaires.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: And that's also not fair. That just makes me angry.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: Somebody who's, like, a successful, that's successful and multi-millionaire.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: And suicidal.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's wasted on him.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: He obviously isn't appreciating it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: At least write me the check and mail it off
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: before you finish this.
• 54:57
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: So somebody can make use of it. Especially not your family.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: It's like when my sister, like, you know, she moved
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to the Bay Area in San Francisco. Won't eat seafood.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: You're just taking up space. You've got no right to
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: be there.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Won't eat seafood.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I see.
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: All right, we are back.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: And it's been quite a while. Actually, these next two
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: segments it's been a while on. But it's been a
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: while since we've done a Trendy Movie Geeks session. And
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: technically we did just do a whole episode about a book. But, yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: that was probably jarring enough for most of our regular listeners.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: But once again, we've had one thrown at us. So
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: we're going against the whole way this show usually works.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: And we're going to discuss a book for a minute.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: But it's okay. I think even Misty would be on board.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: It's got pictures. It's mostly pictures.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: This isn't the Samuel L. Jackson Go to Fuck to
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Sleep in.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: Kind of, if you look at the cover here.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. How about that, man?
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: That would look good with the title, Go to Fuck
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: to Sleep.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Man, they really missed the boat on that.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: That should be the cover to the book.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: The second edition was.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: Go the fuck to sleep, too.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: It is entitled Crazy for Cult, Cult Movie Art. And
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I'll pass it around here, and you guys can check
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: it out and see what you think. If you look
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: at it, I'll give you one down. They did send
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: this over for us to check out. The publishers? Titan
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Books are the ones that put it out, and they
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: sent it to us personally to check it out. And
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: here's the little wall you look. I'm going to go
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: into something here. And number one, I was bitching about
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: this just a couple of weeks.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Ago when.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I was going into the bacon thing. Because I was
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: complaining because now all of a sudden it's super trendy.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: And as soon as we did our Oscar episode this year,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: two weeks later they had this big event in town
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: called the Bacon Ball. And I was like, motherfuckers gotta
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: steal my idea. So, and now it's like Denny's has
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: all their bacon things. I was just like, well, you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I came up with the idea for that party like
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: in 94, so fuck you guys. So, I mean, everybody,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: you know, it becomes super trendy and everybody jumps on
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: that bandwagon. Well, I was also going to, as I'm
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: looking at the book here, I was like, well, you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: back when I used to deal with the old artists,
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I put together... a show that was specifically a movie-themed
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: art show. Fred, you were at that.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: That's awesome. This was a while ago. I started doing
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: the math. It was the beginning of 2007, which then,
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: in looking at what they, this is, let's see, it's
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Gallery 1988 in California. It's done this, and this is based,
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: this whole book is based around the show that they've
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: put together that is Crazy Four Cult that's specifically about
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: movie-themed art. But, I'm pretty sure doing the math in
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: mine was first. So, once again, my point is, bitches
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: be stealing my idea.
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: But, yeah, I put together the Movie Geek Art Show,
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: once again, working in my Movie Geek idea that's been
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: around for more years than I can think of. So
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I just worked it into a specific art show, and, yeah,
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: we got some really good stuff there that day. Fred,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: you shaved your head for the event into a mohawk.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: No, not me.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not making that part up. I also encourage people
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: to come in costume of their favorite movie characters. My
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: daughter came.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: She was there.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: What was she? Maria.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, she was there.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she severed her own head for that.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that. She goes the distance.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: She was not messing around.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, look, that one's creepy.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: I like that whole series they put together.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: The family photos.
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: The family portraits of the messed up families from movies.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: That's a good series. McFly fanfic. But yeah, so my
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: little series obviously wasn't as successful as this one, but
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to claim it.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: I did it first.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: Anyway, so moving on to the official stuff, I'll read
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: what they sent over here. It's actually got an introduction
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: by Kevin Smith, who's actually been kind of... involved with that. He,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: I think, was there when they were coming up with
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: the idea, and he and Scott Mosier have been kind
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: of on hand for a lot of them, and I
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: think he hosts the event. So he does the introduction
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: on the book, and let's see. They bill this as
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: a hugely popular, critically acclaimed annual Crazy for Cult show
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: at LA's Gallery 1988. The cream of the pop culture-influenced
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: art scene come together to celebrate cult movies with art
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: that is surprising, beautiful, and very, very cool. This is
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: the quote from the publishers, by the way.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Right, the publisher says it's cool.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Which it actually is. I'm not going to argue with that.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I think it's pretty cool.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: It's pretty damn cool, I have to say.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: You want it to stand for itself. I'm like, wow,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: this is cool without the publisher.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Telling you it is. Well, I feel, you know, they
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: sent it over. I at least wanted to read what
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: they say about it and then we'll have our reaction.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: But I, you know, I have to agree. It's pretty
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: damn cool. It also says, let's see, featuring a curated
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: selection from the first four years of the show with
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: art inspired by such movies as The Big Lebowski, Edward Scissorhands,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: Blade Runner, Donnie Darko, Clockwork Orange, Tron, Pulp Fiction, Clerks,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: and many more, this stunning book showcases why the gallery
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: has thousands of visitors, a million hits on the website,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: and a huge profile of buyers including Joss Whedon, Judd Apatow,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Seth Green, and J.J.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Abrams.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: So, there you go. That's the official rundown on the book,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: but it is pretty damned interesting, I have to say.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: I like the mixture of styles, which is usually what
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: I like in any show. I've It's one thing when
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: you get a show about one artist, but that's fine.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: You go for that and you support that specific artist.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: But when they do group shows and it all kind
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: of falls into the same category, to me that's always
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: been boring. In any of the shows I ever put together,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: I tried to find people... from all different styles, but
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: also different mediums. And I really like when they bring
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: in totally different stuff, but all sort of, especially it's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: interesting when it all centers around the same theme and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: you get people working, like finding a way to work
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: the style or whatever they work in and then make
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: it fit or, or sort of harnessing it and shoving
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: it into the theme of the show. I always kind
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: of like seeing what people come up with in that situation.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: One thing I noticed flipping through there quickly is, is
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: a lot of the characters, they've enlarged the size of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: their eyes. And this is a lot of different artists.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: And it's almost like more of a theme than movies is.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: At just about every page, the characters' eyes are a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: lot larger. Like I said, it's not the same artist.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: The only theme is movies, or cult movies, I suppose.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: And that's one thing you get there. They do that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: a lot in comic books, too. I'm not a huge
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: comic book connoisseur, but.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: It's definitely anime-tied. I've noticed that a lot, especially in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: that style of art, the stuff that we're looking at
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: right here. It's a whole movement, almost, in art that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: has started to center around that. Whether or not it's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: anything official, it's certainly one artist feeds off another, and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: it's become its own thing again it crosses over in
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: entirely different styles and everything but it starts to you
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: know you start to see trends that turn up in
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: all different types of art so it's interesting that that's happened.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: I find it interesting being a photographer and cinema inspires
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: me yeah to just see these other people's takes that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: what they draw from watching movies and then put it
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 8: into their artwork yeah.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: You know i mean some of them or an abstraction.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: Of a scene, or like a particular scene in a movie,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 8: but others are just their own take.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: It would be the same thing they would do normally,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: but with a different character.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: You can see that with some of them.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: And I think that part's cool. Like, that's, I wish...
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: the people listening can see that.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: It does make this more and that's why i just
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: wanted to throw it out there and give you sort
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: of you know the details on it and you know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: That one's great i'm sorry too oh the fargo fargo
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 8: yeah i would put that up that is classic yes
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 8: i would too we.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: Were talking about that that moment just the other day
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: me and my son.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: What a great scene yeah in a film.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: He's like was that just like right when she comes
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: walking up and.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 18: She sees him like with He's trying to push the
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 18: foot into the wood chip.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Great moment.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: And now you have an entire painted piece about that scene.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: And it's pretty damn impressive.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: That's one of those moments where when it happens, you think,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: why hasn't this already happened?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Why did it take.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: This long until 96 or whenever that it came up?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Like the second they made... A wood chipper? There should
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: have been someone.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: I can't wait to shove this guy in.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: In honor of Mitch Hedberg, I always have to mention
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: in relation to that scene that.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: A severed foot is the perfect stopping stuffer.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I love Mitch Hedberg.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: He's pretty awesome.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: But yeah, we won't dwell on it too much because
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: it's a visual thing, so... That was kind of why
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: I wanted to throw it out there, at least to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: give you sort of the, you know, just clue everybody
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: in that it's out there. So if it sounds like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: something you're interested in, I mean, it's basically just a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: lot of different artists doing their take on movies, specifically
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: weird cult movies. That's usually the kind of stuff we
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: talk about in the show anyway. So I thought it
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: was actually a pretty good tie in topic wise, but yeah,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: it's visual. So you kind of need to go seek
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: it out if you're interested. So again, it is called
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: Crazy for Cult, Cult Movie Art. And, yeah, thank you
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: to Titan Books for letting us know what's out there,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: and we're passing the word along to you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Go check it out.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Looks like a great blog.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: All right, so we will take another quick break here,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: and we will be back with the other missing segment
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: that we've gone quite a while without. So we will
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: be right back.
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• 1:05:48
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  Speaker 11: Okay, Carol, now you take these notes, and then we're
• 1:05:54
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  Speaker 17: Well, what are you two doing here? We don't record
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  Speaker 17: until tomorrow.
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  Speaker 11: We're making a new promo for All Games Considered, since
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: you were dragging your feet getting one written.
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  Speaker 21: Hey, she's right, though. It's been too long, and a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 21: lot has happened since the last promo.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, like winning the gold NE for Best Gaming Podcast
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  Speaker 11: for 2009.
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  Speaker 17: You mean the one you try to work into the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 17: conversation every other episode?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 21: Hey, now, now, there's more than that. There's the new format.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 17: You mean the main show every two weeks and the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 17: assortment of other features in the meantime?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 21: Right, like games you may never have heard of, the
• 1:06:23
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• 1:06:24
  Speaker 11: Don't forget the RPG buffet.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 17: And on the main show, we have more time to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 17: focus on gaming topics.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: Like board and card games.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 21: And RPGs.
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  Speaker 17: And the people who play them from the old school
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 17: to the newest of the new. But no changeling.
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 14: It's Brian again.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: Just here to tell you it's coming up on one
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: of our favorite times of year here at Movie Meltdown.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: It's coming up on the Fright Night Film Fest. This
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: will be the seventh annual Fright Night Film Fest. But
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: not only that. This year also kicks off Fandom Fest.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: an entire second convention of geek and pop culture. But wait,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: you get both awesome shows for the same low price.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: Now this is no longer just a convention that caters
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: to horror geeks, but it crosses over into a whole
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: new realm where fantasy and sci-fi lovers, as well as
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: comic book collectors, general film lovers, can hang out with gamers, authors,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: and artists of all types. It's like Geek Valhalla, only
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: you don't have to die to get there, you just
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: have to get your tickets now. Now the main guest...
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: The legend himself, director John Carpenter. Amazing. One of the
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: most influential directors of our time. Not only that, this
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: list of guests goes on. We've got the Fonz himself,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: Henry Winkler. That is so awesome. Also, Margot Kidder, Tiffany Shephus,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Larry Drake, Jeremy Bullock, Tony Moore and the Stars of
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: The Walking Dead. The Stars of Enter the Dragon. Bruce
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: Lee not included. A Karate Kid Cobra Kai reunion. And
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: give us a Revenge of the Nerds reunion. Seriously. Featuring
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Robert Carradine, Larry B. Scott, Curtis Armstrong, and if booger
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: bean there wasn't enough, Donald Gibb. Ogre, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: will be there. There's so many others. I mean, the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: stars of American Graffiti, Jaws, Phantasm, so many other stars.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: You'll just have to go look at the list. It's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: ridiculous how many stars are there. Plus, again, we cross
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: over into all the other activities that are added this year.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: You've got literary guests and gaming guests and artists. There'll
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: be seminars and workshops going on, movies the entire weekend,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: live music, a masquerade ball, and the now infamous Georgetown
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: Drive-In event. plus an appearance from your friends at Movie Meltdown.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: And isn't that really the most impressive thing? And it's
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: all going on July 22nd through the 24th in Louisville, Kentucky.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: So get your tickets now. You can go to Fright
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: Night Film. or the site for the new convention, Fandom Fest.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: That's F-A-N-D-O-M-F-E-S-T dot com. It's going to be one hell
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: of a weekend. The Fright Night Film Fest is my
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: favorite film festival.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Hands down.
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  Speaker 7: It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: You haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: answered in the movies.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 14: And now, on with the show.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: I scream your name.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: It always stays the same.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: I scream your shadow. So what I'm gonna do now
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: is freak the freak out.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: Hey!
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 22: Whoa! You just went to Florence.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: You should be inspired.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: It's just penises and pretty faces everywhere.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Like, it's a public service announcement. What are they trying
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: to tell me?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: Penises go with pretty faces, I guess.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: And then every time, this one building, like, every time
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: I went around the landing of the stairwell, there's a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 5: bust of the chick with the one boob plopped out.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: And it's kind of whiter than the rest of the sculpture.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Like, people rub it as they.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: Go by for luck.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but that's what I did.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: I'm just waiting for the, yeah, I'd be wondering if
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: the person would, like, put, like, a sticker nipple on
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: it or something like that.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: That would be... I'm using sticker nibbles.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: I just like saying that.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: That's a fun word to say that rolls off the tongue.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: All right, we're back. And it is time for a
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: return to the almost forgotten by most people movie fan
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: freak show. Greetings, carnival robes. Step right up and meet
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: the freaks. Now this, if, if, Again, it's been a while,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: so I'll refresh your memory if you haven't been here
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: for the older ones. But there's a very distinct difference.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: We on this show certainly fall into the category of
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: movie geek. And there's a big difference in my mind
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: of a movie geek and a movie freak. And the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: people we usually go into on this level are just
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: strange and weird. The fact that they're drawn to the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: movies is usually equally as weird or just some anomaly
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: as to why you can't figure out some of the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: basics at this point. So sometimes you just go with
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: it and you're just awed by the weirdness of these people.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: So we've definitely done a few classics in the past,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: but I thought we would do another session today and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: throw a few out there. Let's see. Do we want
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: the visual.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: First or afterwards?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: How do you guys... Because we've done artist renderings of them,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: but I also like the idea of you guys listening
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: to the story yourselves and then doing your own version.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: I kind of want these people to be like, you know,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot sightings or alien meetups. I mean, I want everybody
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: to sort of have their own take on them out there.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: I vote yes.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: We can wait until I've told the tale and then
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: you can see what you think, but... Either way, I mean,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: I guess you can run into these kind of people
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: anywhere out there in the world. And sometimes you do,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: and it may not tie to movies. Now, the movie
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: tie-in is a hell of a lot easier when you
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: work around movies. So with, you know, at least Greg
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: and myself, we both fell into that category for a
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: while there. And that's where a good portion of mine
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: came from, was being not only, you know, seeing these people,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: but then having to deal with them on a professional level,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: if we were ever professionals. But then you kind of
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: have to make nice with them and play along with
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: their crazy behavior. So some of the other ones are crazy.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: This one's a little more creepy. Now, originally I was
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: just going to go with Jeffrey for this one. But
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: I decided that's not accurate enough. Because like every good
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: serial killer or loner assassin, he has three names. And,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: you know, he always went by three names. He would
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: special order things with us, and he would always be
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: by the three names. He always went with the three names.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: So to me, it always felt that way. So now
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: with all of these, I feel we should at least
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: sort of minorly adjust the details so as to not
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: out these people as, you know, we don't necessarily have
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: to slander them by names. We just want to tell
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: the crazy tale. So I'll adjust it and I'll refer
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: to him as Jeffrey Lee Miller.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: How did I know you were going to go with Lee?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: That's like the serial killer middle name.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: Actually, I think it's Wayne. I think Wayne is official
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: serial killer material.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: It wasn't even killer.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: It's in the ballpark though.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: That's more like an assassin.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: It came from actually Johnny Lee Miller. So no offense
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: to Johnny Lee Miller. I was just looking for a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: good three name and that just worked pretty well. So
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: No offense to Johnny, or if your name happens to
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: actually be Jeffrey Lee Miller, just know that that's not
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: actually this person's name, and I'm not talking about you.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: So this is just a nice little name I've come
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: up with to give him some sort of identity. But really,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: I don't think by the end of this story you're
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: going to feel sorry for him. Anyway, you'll be a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: little creeped out by him. So we'll refer to him
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: as Jeffrey Lee Miller. Now, this, and again, I'm giving
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: these descriptions based on back in the day, so that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: the age is probably massively off by now, but just
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: to give you the idea of what we had to
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: look at at the time, he's probably in his early
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: to mid-30s. He has dark black curly hair that sticks
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: way up off the top of his head, Kramer style.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: He wears thick black room glasses, pants that come up
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: way past his waist, A dress shirt. This is always...
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: This is like a uniform. Pants up high, a dress shirt,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: and rainbow suspenders. Yeah, like Mork used to wear. This
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: was his.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: This was a while ago, so it actually didn't even
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: have that extra meaning. Because now I would just assume
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: maybe he was just advertising something else in his life.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: But this was a while ago when really people weren't
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: even using that to mean that type of lifestyle, so...
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: He was just weird. It was more of a Mork reference,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: I think. It was more that he was just a
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: weirdo at the time, because this was quite a while
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: ago when I used to have these interactions with this character. So, yeah,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: this was at a video store, a corporate-run video store.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: We won't go into the name, especially since they're gone.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: They're bankrupt, so I don't even feel the need to
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: bring them up. But, yeah, he's the kind of guy,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: and Greg, you'll know this one, and probably anybody who's
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: ever worked retail, The kind of guy who comes in
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: five minutes before you're supposed to close and wants to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: look around for hours if you'll go along with it.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: He'll pretend like he has no idea that you're like
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: turning off lights and vacuuming around his feet and like,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: you know, closing the door and you name it. He's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: just oblivious to all of it going on. And that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: just became his thing. He would stay there way past
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: time that he should already be gone. Everybody else should
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: have been home 15, 20 minutes ago. He's still in
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: there loitering around. And then he wanders out without buying
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: a damn thing. He would do this pretty much every time.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: That became his M.O. He would come in. stand around
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: 20 minutes after you're supposed to be done, and then
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: walk out. And just not even bother. Not even be like, oops, sorry,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't know you were getting... No, don't even bother.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Just freak of nature. So then he changed his routine,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: and he started coming in first thing in the morning.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: That's an equally annoying group of people. The people that
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: are waiting at the gate in the morning when you're...
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: You know it's never good. They either have to return
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: something immediately... or they just are a freak and they
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: want to, you know, have some sort of interaction with
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: you when you have nobody else there to distract you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: that you, you can't escape basically.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: They know you're going to be there for hours.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: So that's more of what this was, I believe, because
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: then at night he would just come in and loiter,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: but in the mornings he wanted to talk. This was trouble.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: He wanted to, he would come over and just ramble
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: for hours and, would tell you about who was a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: bit player in this movie and what year this movie
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: came out in the 50s. And the one specifically, he
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: told me, and he might have told me more than once,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: he was pretty pleased with this one, that John Wayne
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: was in Ben-Hur as an extra. Now, I looked it up.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: That's actually true. He did do work, and he's got
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: such a minor role in it that they refer to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: him as an extra. But, buddy, who cares?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm just like.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: It's one thing if you have a good rapport with
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: these people and you can actually get along with them
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: and you actually are involved in the conversations. But, Greg,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: you dealt with a lot of these people. I mean,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: there's some people you tolerate because you have to. And
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: this guy, I think he was aware of that. And
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: sometimes they do know it and they start to bank
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: on that because these are the only people they can
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: talk to or the ones that have to put up
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: with them all day. So, yeah, at this point he's
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: just kind of an annoying character, but He gets a
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: little creepier. He also has the tendency to become infatuated
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: with girls that work in video stores. There were at
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: least two that I know of that he kind of
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: did this to, but.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: He sort of, um, I would hear stories about him
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: sort of latching on to different women at different stores,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: some of, like, entirely other chains, like rental stores across
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: town that also had stories about this character. So, um,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: but the one I heard firsthand was from one of
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: my former managers, and, um, It seems that he had
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: been quite infatuated with her, and she was an attractive girl,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: so he kept coming in and talking to her, much
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: to her dismay. And his big finale, as it were,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: he came in one day, stood in front of the counter,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: and did a song and dance. It was entitled The
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: Buffalo Song.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Banana Cherry Buffalo's Dance?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: That would have been awesome. No, it wouldn't. No.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: No. Yeah, so I mean, for years after that, the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Buffalo song sort of lived in infamy around this horrible,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: horrible character. Yeah, song and dance to this poor girl
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: working behind the counter by herself, I'm assuming, because I'm
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: sure he went in in the morning when he could
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: corner her and creep her out a little more. But yeah,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: to wrap it up, even at the time, he didn't
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: go into the mall anymore because, well, he was banned
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: from the mall. He was escorted from the mall by
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: security after asking some 12-year-old girls if he could touch
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: their legs.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of guy he was.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: This is the kind of guy Jeffrey was. Creepy as
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: the day is long. So, for my rendering... Have you
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: got a good image yourself of.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I can't get Kramer out of my head, so unfortunately...
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: He's pretty.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, it's pretty close on the hair.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: I had to use that as a good reference to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: kind of give everybody just what you're dealing with, and
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: mine's still a little off, but it's pretty damn funny
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned. So here's what I came
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: up with on my version of it. I know that guy.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: My grade school version of character rendering. Yeah, this is
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: what I came up with. I was a little like.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: I like the sallow cheekbones.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: Looks a little like Christopher Walken.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: He was a tall, lanky motherfucker, and he had this, like,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: sunken-in kind of face, and yet still scruffy and never
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: really seemed like he had his shit together, and the
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 4: hair was always a mess. And just, yeah, he's a
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: scary guy.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 6: Scary character I like how the inseam is over half
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: of his body it's like the inseam's gotta go up
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: to his.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: Navel and I can't remember if he had the high
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: waters but I had to put him on there because
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he did actually the more I thought
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: about it I was like yeah I'm pretty sure I
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: saw more of his socks than I ever ever needed
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: to see so yeah that would be Jeffrey I.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 8: Just have to say Christopher Walken is an idol of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 8: mine so no offense to be taken by Mr.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Walken He could play a creepy pedophile pretty easily.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: I think he'd do it well.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: Didn't he?
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: Somewhere?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: Just in the real world? We don't know.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: He was some guy in a movie based on a
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: Harold Pinter play, and he came off that way. He
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: just seemed like he kept wearing this light-colored suit. And
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 5: I remember one reviewer said, he gave you the impression
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: he was wearing something really strange under his pants.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: Aren't we all?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that was my entry. We'll add it into
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: the logbook here. I've been trying to catalog them, almost
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: like a wilderness show, tagging them, and I don't really
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: want to release them back into the wild, but they're
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: out there. So I feel like, you know, as a
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: warning to people, just knowing that they're out there and And,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: you know, again, we get these bad little drawings. So
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: you can be like, well, that kind of looks.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: Like that one.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: They can be like, post office.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of like that.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Have you seen this?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: Have you seen this bastard? Yeah. So that was my entry, Mr.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: Jeffrey Lee Miller. Fred, did you have one?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: I had one. It's kind of more benign.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: I've worked in this place that shall not be named.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: We can call it the Ninth Circle.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: And we had this thing, just to get through the day,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: where we were constantly writing the movie of where we were.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: And we were always talking about who would play us
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: and who would play other people.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: And it was the ongoing.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: And we actually developed a script at some point. We
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: had like a story line. And then we decided, no,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: it's bigger than that. This will be the movie.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: In the movie that we're always talking about.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: And that's what we would do, but the actual movie
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: will just encapsulate that.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: This is an elaborate plot.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was really where we worked, all the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 5: customers that came in and stuff.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: It was like a parade of freaks.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 5: And when the movie Best in Show came out, we thought,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: you know, this could work. This could actually happen. Because
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: it was like that. It's all these characters. Some of
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 5: the characters almost were the people we dealt with.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: So that's what we had going for a while.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: And we were all talking about movies and we liked
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: some different things. But then there was this one guy
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: who started working for a while.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm noticing that this guy comes up every time
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: in one way or another. But he looked, he really
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: looked kind of a lot like Steve Zahn. Except he
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: had dark hair.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: Just sort of dark headed. But he had that sort
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: of like dopey grin.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: And like a little extra kink in the corner of
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: his mouth or something. And I tried to draw it,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: but I can't get it. I could almost have carved
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: it into a pumpkin if I had time.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: If you want. By the time I get this up,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: if you want to get the pumpkin done, I can
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: post the photo for the pumpkin.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: He was a really good guy, and he was good
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: to work with.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: In all ways, except you just couldn't find any way
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: to relate to it. You know, we'd be talking and,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: you know, making references to this.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: And he was always in this sort of good mood.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: Like, yeah, well, that sounds interesting. Yeah, but I guess
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: I've never seen that movie. Sounds like I ought to
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: look that up.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: And we'd be like... Yeah, it's called The Godfather. Sure,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: you ought to check that out.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: It might be hard to come by. It's an obscure
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: little film.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: And after a while we'd be asking each other, did you.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: Talk to this guy?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: And I don't know what to call him because I'd
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: want to change his name. He was a really nice guy.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: But I can't because I don't remember his name. And
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: any name I pick might be his name. Eduardo. So
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to call him Tiffany. I'm pretty sure his.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: Name wasn't Tiffany. All right.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Or you could call him Steve's arm.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: I could call him Steve.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Steve really would fit him.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: Maybe it really was Steve's arm.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, we'd try to just all the time we'd
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: be talking about, but no. Never really heard of that.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: You mean Jaws? Like a movie about a shark?
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: It's really cool.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: It has this theme and.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: No, I guess I missed that one. And we're all just.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: After a while, we started to be mystified by it.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: And it was more like almost supernatural. Like he was
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: raised in a closet or something.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: And about that time, I read an article about this
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: girl that was actually raised in a closet, and she
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: developed no language.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: And then all the psychologists descended on her to study her,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: because when do you get an opportunity to study that?
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: And then they were all, you know, like, after doing
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 5: their dissertation on her, and then when they were done.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: With her, they, like, abandoned her.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: I get it. Yeah.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Like science does.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Although they had all had conferences to... be careful about
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: these ethical issues, and they all knew what they were doing,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: and they still did the wrong thing. It was just
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: so sad.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: And I thought, maybe this guy, I mean, he has language,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: he can talk, he seems like, he just has no, like,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 5: sense of culture.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, my parents didn't have a.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Lot of pop culture.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: They didn't, you know, they didn't really keep up.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: But they knew, you.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Know... the stuff they knew. This guy, nobody could figure
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: out just how do you get a conversation going? Where
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: do you find an opening?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: It was even stranger than the one guy we worked
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: with who had a DVD player that would only play.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: Movies with a certain actress in it. I forget her
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: last name. Skye something.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Iona Skye? Yeah.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: It would only play DVDs. And even if they were pirated,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: it would.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: Any movie she was in, it would play that, and
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: it wouldn't play anything else.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: That's limiting your options, because she kind of quit working
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: for a while.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it was a fascinating electronic phenomenon. So we
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: thought that was weird, but then this guy came along,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 5: and we're like.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: We're into a whole new zone now.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: This is just beyond.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: The strange and unusual.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: And then one day, one of the guys was going
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 5: somewhere with him to.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: do a job or something. We were professional killers back then.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Is this the movie inside the movie?
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: This is the story inside the story.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: I'm still stuck on that.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Well, they were.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: Driving somewhere, getting into character, and they pass a billboard
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: along the road for Sinbad, who's going to be appearing
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: at the comedy club or something.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Not the podcast.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: And this guy goes off he.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 12: Goes oh that guy man that guy is.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: So funny he was in this movie I've seen all
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: his movies.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 19: Man every one of his movies and he starts like
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 19: telling them he starts telling them like oral history of
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 19: Sinbad movies And that was his culture.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 5: That was the only thing we ever found that he
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: knew and could refer to. And he could just tell
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: them from start to finish. And I'm not really that
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: familiar with Sinbad's movies. But the guy who came.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: Back, he says, man, I've got to tell you what happened.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: This guy is like Sinbad's biggest fan. Maybe his only fan.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 8: Did he also dress in nylon? Did he wear the
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 8: running jacket and the.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 23: no he was just a t-shirt and a windbreaker and
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 23: he looked like an ordinary guy but he had this
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 23: thing where he had never connected with the culture of
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 23: North America or the world the western.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 16: World except for Sinbad that was the one thing and
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 16: eventually you know he quit or went somewhere but this
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 16: guy is.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Still out there yeah walking around walking the streets.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: You're wondering why they're earning new sin bad news yeah yeah.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: And you wouldn't know to look at him it's just
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: you know you'd be next to him in a store
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: somewhere it's like it's a regular guy walking around but
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: no no it's a guy who like i don't know.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Live in fear ladies and gentlemen yeah i don't know
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: how to describe i tried to draw him but Then
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: it's like, well, then I've got to draw Steve Zahn.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: Kind of, yeah.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: You can just get a picture.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: Of Steve Zahn and darken his hair.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: But he always had this kind of like, something like that.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: That kind of works, actually, yeah. So I want to
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: hold it up and do the voice. Oh, that sounds
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. Yeah, no, I never saw that.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: Huh, you say it's called Star Wars, huh?
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Star what?
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: Is that about celebrities or something?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: It sounds pretty cool. I'll have to watch that sometime,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: And that's the guy. And now I see him sitting
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: at home, watching House Guest, doing those hand motions, probably.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Or watching A Different World.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think I really got it.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 19: It looks a little like Brandon or something.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: It's not quite right, but yeah, that's the look in
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: the eye.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: I sort of got the eyes.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: And they're kind of dead, too.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I'll go on record as saying, while he doesn't
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: have a stellar film career... I'm still pretty pleased with
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: the stand-up career of Sinbad.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 7: Sure. Right.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: But it's like one of those things, like, who would
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: be a fan of his movies?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Nobody.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: Nobody is a fan of his... And this guy, that's like.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: That was his thing. Like, he didn't even reference that
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: he was ever stand-up. No.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, he does stand-up, too?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: He was in that movie... Oh, man.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: I couldn't name a Sinbad movie, I don't think.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: He missed the chance at Kazam. How did Shaquille O'Neal get.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: The role over Sinbad in Kazam?
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: Your name's Sinbad. Oh, the tiny dude is over.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: You know, I worked with a guy, and this isn't
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: really a movie reference. I could do a whole episode
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: on This is a True Freak. Yeah, this man spent $ 19, 000
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: on a wife from Nigeria that never arrived.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: And it was months that he kept sending money, and
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 6: she was going to bring the millions.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: This is the big fish that they go for, $ 19, 000.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 6: And he said at one point, This is the second
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: time this has happened.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to stop. That's how bad this is.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: I've got stories that could go on for days about
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: this man. But I see him on his computer. His
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: computer's in front of mine.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: And he spends four hours, not getting in trouble, looking
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: up pictures of Julia Delpy.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: Is that her name? Julia Delpy, I believe. French actress?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he looks up an hour's worth of looking
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: at pictures of her feet. And reading all the Wikipedia
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 6: stuff and all this information. And so we fuck with
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: him sometimes.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm always very nice to him.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: But I want to get inside his mind and figure
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: out what's going on.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: That's how you do it. You lure him in. You
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: befriend him. And then you stick it to him.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: And so I ask him, I say, so you were
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: looking at Julie Delpy's stuff all day.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: I said, yeah.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: What do you think of her?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: And he goes, oh, I just, she's a wonderful, beautiful woman.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: I am just in love with her mind.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow. Okay, great.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: He's committed.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: But that's, that's great.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: This guy's about 60 and creepy.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: I just, um, Jeffrey level of crazy.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 6: This, this is like the serial killer that could kill
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: you with the bacteria on his arm.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: That kind of serious, that kind of creepy. All right.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: And I started asking him about it. I said, oh,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: I really love movies. I started asking him about it. Well,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what movie she's been in. And he goes,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: she's in movies? Like just totally.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: Oblivious to the fact that this woman he's been looking
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: at for hours is in movies.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: And he goes, I'll have to check those out. And
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: that's why your story reminded me of it.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: This guy's dad.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: No, this guy's never had any trouble, because no woman's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: ever been with this man.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he can't even.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 19: Pay $ 19, 000 to get a woman.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this man would look at pictures of, he'd look
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: at webcams from nude beaches.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's... That's the kind of guy.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: When you can see anything you want.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: In the world, but you want to be a creepy dude.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: At a new speed.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: That's what you're choosing.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: That's a special kind of guy. You've got to give
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: him credit.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: He's a special kind of creepy.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be alone with him ever.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: He was completely oblivious that she was even an actress.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: He loves Hermione, but has no idea that she's an actress.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Where did he even get the information that she existed?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: How do you read pages and pages about her?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: Did he see her on a nude beach somewhere and
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: fall in love with Hermione?
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, she is French.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: She could easily be nude on a beach.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Right now.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: But there were two other guys that were with me,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 6: and we just kind of looked at each other for
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: several minutes.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Like, I can't believe.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: That just happened.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: What was the Ethan Hawke romantic?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: I was just thinking, I was waiting for him to
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: be like, wait, so before Sunrise it's coming?
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before Sunrise.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Because one of the other guys said, weren't there two
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: or three of those movies?
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 4: There's a sequel years later.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 17: Okay.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, one of the guys, Brent, he brought those up,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 6: and he said, oh, yeah, she's the main role other
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: than Ethan Hawke in these movies.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: You need to check them out. No clue.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: No clue.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: And the next day, he had seen both of them.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: He had watched them 17 times.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: Creep.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 14: Wow.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: But, you know, I'm going to take up a little
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: bit for the creeps of the world.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: If they're harmless.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: You know, if he's just looking at pictures on the internet.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: I would certainly fall into that category. So I'm not totally,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 4: you know, I just, it's the level of creepiness. And
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: that's what I've always said about these people. It's not
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: the weird awkwardness, because that I understand. That I identify with.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: It's the being so out of touch with reality to
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: realize that you're creeping other people out. That you don't
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: have that boundary. That you don't have the social awareness
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: to be able to go... Maybe I should not sing
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: this song about a buffalo to this girl. Maybe that's
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: crossing the line.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: This guy didn't wash.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: Within days of working there, the floor, the laminate floor
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: was black from dirt.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Just the most disgusting. And it was at a place
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: where you pretty much can't be fired. So it was.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: I might have to ask you about that place later.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: I think we all might need some more time.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: But I guess the thing that came up for me recently,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about Dante's because I was like, my
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: sister was telling.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Me this story about places I might.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: Want to go and see, and she said, well, and there's,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: you know, Dante's house is nearby, and there's this place
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: where he saw this girl Beatrice when he was nine,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: and he just became obsessed with her, and I didn't
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: really know much about him, but I'm like, well, that's cool,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 5: but that's like this historically remembered thing was.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: A nine-year-old having a crush on a girl.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: And then you know then there are all these ideas
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 5: about courtly love and how it's an admiration that's blah.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Blah blah He's like, no, it was a crush. These
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: were human beings. I know about this.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Or it was a creepy obsession.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: Well, it kind of was.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: We all have those.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: It kind of was. But he wrote about it, you know,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: and he didn't really write about her looks. And that
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't convince me because, I mean, he didn't know her.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: They both married different people. but he carried this thing
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: with him, and, like, he admired her courtesy.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: That's equally as weird as her feet.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, he has to say what he can.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Say about it, I guess, but... Like, years later, he
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: saw her on the street.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: She was walking with two older women dressed in white,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: and she waved to him.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: Check out the courtesy on her.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: She also blew his mind.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then, you know, she died when she was 24,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 5: and it just tore him to pieces.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: He didn't know her. He never had to live with her.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: He never had to, like, make decisions that involved her
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: in any way. But he just got this weird obsession
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: thing in his head. And it changed him. And the
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: idea is maybe it changed him for the better, but
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: I think it's almost worse like that. Because if you
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 4: live with somebody, if you actually deal with them in
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: the real world, you start to go, oh, they're just
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: kind of a person. They're not this idealized thing. You
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: don't have this perfect image of them and this perfect
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 4: love for them because they screw that up. Because you
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: see all the shortcomings and you see the the day-to-day
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: version of them that isn't this shiny, idealized thing. It
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: becomes a real person. And I think that's probably harder
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: to part with is the idea of losing that ideal
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: love instead of this, you know. Granted, it's harder to
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: lose a real person because you're actually attached to them.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: But I think the idea of it is probably worse
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: the other way because you're losing so much more In
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 4: the ideal sense. Again, not the personal connection sense, but
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: your brain, who is probably messed up anyway, or you
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be idealizing this person you don't know anything about.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: I think it is one of those that's probably harder
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 4: to deal with, especially for somebody in that state of mind.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, those childhood obsessions, that person is dehumanized.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They're really not really human. And the fact that
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: they die... Yeah.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: It almost.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: It's almost that transcendence moment. Either you're one realizing that, well,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: they're dead and they were real.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Or now it's... They're more than alive.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing that's crazy.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, it would be so easy to just say,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 5: fuck it, let it go and get over it. But
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: he held on to whatever this thing he thought she
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: was or meant. And... tried to make it like a
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: part of him, and I don't know anything about his art.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've heard things, but I've never read Dante.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: My kids have read him, but I've.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: Never read him.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 4: I thought he just worked at the Quick Stop.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 5: I just thought it was like an interesting thing, because
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 5: it just connects to so many things in terms of,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 5: you know, film images.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's how we attach ourselves to people even if
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 4: they're not real even if they're joey dopey but yeah
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: i mean it is it's kind of how we deal
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: with it and that's that's the part that i think
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: is weird is like you know normal people just go
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: oh i like that person but you you get these
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: other people and i'm not saying i haven't skated that
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: line before but i'm there there becomes me.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: And everybody like yeah there's no point in experiencing fiction.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: Unless you're going to indulge in some.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: And, you know, attach yourself to the characters. And sometimes
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: the real life version of them, you know, you find
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: the actors. But it's these people that, yeah, that don't
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: understand the difference almost. It's not even like they're knowingly
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: doing this. It's that they really almost live in this
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: world where they don't understand the difference. You know, like
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: he really thought he was, you know, he had a
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: shot with Julie. Probably. Or this, you know, this guy
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: who doesn't understand that the girl on the other side
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: of the counter is totally creeped out by him. And
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: it's like You know, at least I still exist in
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: that world where I'm like, no, she doesn't want anything
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: to do with me. I'm moving on. Whereas he is
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: oblivious to that and continues on with this like, oh,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 4: my God, she's so perfect. I'm like, yeah, but she's
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 4: also weirded out by you, freak. Move on. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: that's the part that kind of fascinates me about these people.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: It's not just the freak show stories, which, granted, those
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: are fun. But it is that that's usually the dividing
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 4: line with most of them is the fact that they
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: don't know the difference. They don't have that barrier.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: They're so caught up in their narcissistic fantasy.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: It's something that they don't notice the world around them.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: The real world.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: They exist in their own little freak world and it's... Ah, yeah.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: So I think it's interesting to talk about these people.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: Number one, because we like to make.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 14: Fun of them.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're jerks. We'll admit to it, I would hope.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I think there is something... to
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: look at. There is almost a weird psychological thing that
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: you can kind of start to break down and hopefully
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: not figure out, because I think once you figure it out,
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: you're in the mind of that. I think that's the
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: only way to truly understand it, is once you've crossed
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: over into their world. I have one foot in there,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: but I don't want to.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: Go there yet.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, Lord. So I think that more than rounds out
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: our freak show session here. We will definitely add at
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: least a couple of those into the vault there, but
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: we might have to throw at least yours in, Greg.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is movie-related, kind of. He didn't know
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: it was, but it's certainly, to me, as you're looking
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: at her, yeah, we might have to work him in,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: so you'll have to start sketching.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: I know people that have drawn this guy.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, get a hold of him. Oh, Lord.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, with that, we'll escape from the freaks, I suppose. Well,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: you're left with these freaks, but we'll get away from
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: those stories. Just to round it out, we won't have
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: a full-on feedback, but I did have one that I
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: was going to pass along, sort of. These are short
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: because they're Twitter-related, so you don't get much out of that.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: There was one I brought up last week to you, Greg,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: and I said, and these are from Equal Opportunity Dork,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: which you may know as the internet personality formerly known
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: as Eskimo. And, yeah, he was mentioning, and this is
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: something I've wondered how people were taking it. In a way,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: I kind of don't care because this is the way
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: I like the show to be. But, I mean, we
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: are all over the map. We've got shows that are
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: different people. We've got shows at different places. We've got
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: some we talk about news. Sometimes we do a whole
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: session on a movie. So, I mean, it's like we
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: do a lot of different stuff. And he sent me
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: one that was like, He's like, I haven't mentioned this,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: but I really like the fact that I kind of
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: don't know what I'm going to get, that I open
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: it up and I can't tell. I wrote him back.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, it's kind of like a carnival wheel.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 4: You spin the wheel, and this week you get some
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: sort of movie geek-related activity, and you don't know what
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: it's going to be, but hopefully it's pretty awesome. I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like that. I like that, but he ended
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 4: it with, he said, it's kind of an exciting experience
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: each week, especially if it's a coffee shop episode.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 4: And I mentioned that to you and you, and you
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: said it was probably the Fred factor. So we decided, okay,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: it's probably the Fred factor. And then the more I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: thought about it. Oh yeah.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: You're getting a little fan club. We know.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 22: Cool.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 5: The first time I heard like some good response from somebody,
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 5: I just like, I didn't even know what to say.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: Well then, yeah.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: So then I started thinking back. I was like, I
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: think he did specifically mention him like a while back.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: So I went back.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 4: It was like two months ago. I pulled one up
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: and it says, uh, It's just a post. Once again,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: you get one sentence there. So it says, I kind
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: of want Fred on the show more. He says amazing shit.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: That's the best review I've ever got for anything in
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 5: my life.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get that on a shirt.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 5: Says amazing shit.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: I was going to get one for Father's Day. They
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: didn't do it.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 5: I told my family to get me a shirt that
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: on the back it would say, don't encourage him.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. You know, you could put that on
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: your resume, though.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sesame. Sesame and shit.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: And it was a review.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, I thought, you know, these are very short versions,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: but I thought it needed to be passed along, Fred.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: You're getting your own fan club.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: So awesome.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 4: All right. Well, I guess we can start rounding it out. Okay, kids,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 4: get out your decoder pins.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: Somebody.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: Nobody else is going to do it.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just getting out my decoder bag. Set your pins
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: to V2. Here is the message.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: I like doing it to people who have no idea
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 4: what I'm talking about and waiting for them to do it.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 8: I'm still wondering if we're making a movie inside of
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 8: a movie right now.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: It's a podcast inside of a podcast. Oh, no, wait.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: We did that last week.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 4: When does the ice cream social start?
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: Oh, podcast within a podcast. All right, kids, it is
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: time for the Movie Meltdown Secret Circle reveal of actually
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: two exciting upcoming features, possibly several weeks worth here. Because
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: I was looking at the calendar, and we've got most
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: of this month is already kind of mapped out, so
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: we know some stuff going on. So next week, once again,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: you spin the wheel, you don't know what you're going
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 4: to get. Next week, road trip again. We are back
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: on the road. We are heading to Indianapolis for the
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: Days of the Dead conventions. This is actually the first
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: time they're doing this one, so it will be interesting
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: to see what they've put together. But so far online,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: it looks kind of impressive. So we'll have to see
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: what they've put together at Days of the Dead. Hopefully,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: if all of my nefarious plans go right, we'll have
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 4: some special guests thrown in on those episodes. So that's
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: where we'll be at least next week, maybe the next
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: couple of episodes. So the following week, and we were
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: just discussing that earlier today, what we're attempting to do,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 4: the week after that is actually the 10th annual Lebowski Fest.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: And if you weren't aware, you've probably heard about it
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: if you're a movie geek, and you may or may
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: not have known, this town that we're sitting in right
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: here is actually the birthplace of Lebowski Fest. Sometimes I'm
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: confused that it even exists, but the fact that it
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 4: has the following that it does is amazing. So I
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: just thought that was kind of interesting and that we're
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: sitting in the middle of it. So yeah, we're talking
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: to the guys at Lebowski Fest. We're going to try
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: to do an episode... from lebowski fest in some capacity
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: so yeah we're gonna go wander around lebowski and and
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: we're um we're planning a special movie tie-in it might
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: not be what you're thinking so.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: Wonder what it could be wonder what it could.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 13: Be we'll get back to that later all right uh
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 13: anything else we want to pass along this episode If
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 13: nothing else, thank you once again to Nancy's Bagel Round
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 13: for letting us commandeer the coffee shop here and scare
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 13: people away for the last couple of hours.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 22: Discos don't open till after dark And it ain't till
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  Speaker 22: twelve till the party really starts And I always had
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  Speaker 22: to be home by ten Right before the fun was
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  Speaker 22: about to begin Proud.
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  Speaker 20: Of people lined up inside and out Just one reason
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 20: to rock the house But in the daytime the streets
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 20: weren't clear You couldn't find a good freak anywhere cause
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 20: The freaks come out at night The freaks come out
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  Speaker 20: at night The.
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  Speaker 24: Freaks come out at night The freaks come out at
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  Speaker 24: night This is from Adelaide.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 12: Now when friends get dressed to go out at night,
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  Speaker 12: they like to wear leather jackets, chains, and spikes. They
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 12: wear rips and zippers all in their shirts, real tight pants,
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  Speaker 12: and fresh mini skirts. All kinds of colors running through
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 12: their hair, and you can just about spot a freak anywhere.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 12: But then again, you can know someone all their life
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 12: and might not know their freak unless you see them
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 12: at night.
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  Speaker 4: Cause friends go out at night.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: The freaks come out at night.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 20: Now the party's jumping, the place is packing, and when
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 20: the crowd's like this, I'm ready to rap. But before
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 20: I can buzz around on the mic, freaks are all
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 20: over me like white on rice. Freaks come in all shapes, sizes,
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 20: and colors, but what I like about them most is
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 20: that they're real good lovers. They do it in the park,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 20: they do it in the dark, but most freaks are known.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 14: For breaking hard.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 20: You can never tell what a freak is thinking of
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  Speaker 20: And you may never catch a freak without at least
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 20: one glove They don't walk, when they step they strut
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 20: And nine times out of ten they drive you nuts
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  Speaker 20: So take my advice, you don't stand a chance Freaks
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 20: are so bad they got their own dance So if
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 20: you wanna live a nice quiet life Do yourself a favor,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 20: don't come out at night Cause.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 24: Freaks come out at night Freaks come out at.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: Night Freaks come out at night.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: The freaks come out at night.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: The freaks come out at night.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 4: Hut, hut, hut, hut. The freaks come out at night.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: The freaks come out. The freaks come out at night.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: Hut one. Hut two.
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  Speaker 6: Hut, hut, hut, hut.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Dance break.
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  Speaker 3: Get out to see.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Show me that you deserve to be a friend.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: Get a new show. Work it out now. Everybody, everybody,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: have a good time.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: Get a new show. Let it out now.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 22: Let it all hang out.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: Let it out now.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: Let it all hang out. Dance, break, get out to sea.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: Show me that you can turn me to your fight. Dance, break,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 4: get out to sea.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Show me that you can turn me to your fight.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Dance, break, get out to sea. Show me that you
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: can turn me to your fight. Take a look now.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: Let it hang out.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody around, let it hang out.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 17: You will feel me so much today.
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  Speaker 10: .
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  Speaker 24: .
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  Speaker 1: The freaks come out at night.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: The freaks come out at night.
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  Speaker 24: We'll be fresh on names.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Greg.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: I'm Fred.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, now you're going to.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: Fuck with me. No, he's right. He's Greg.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: I'm Fred.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm Fred.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: Did we get that right? Did we?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.