Latest / Kvetch & Release / Friday Roundtable with Steve Erwin, David Cassidy, & Alicia Higgison
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- 0:13Speaker 1: Good morning everyone, Welcome to the Dan McDonald Show. John
- 0:16Speaker 1: McKeith here filling in for Dan McDonald, who will be
- 0:20Speaker 1: back hosting this show next Tuesday. He's been filling in
- 0:24Speaker 1: this week for Mike Kacook on the Morning Drive, which
- 0:27Speaker 1: is why I have been here with you this whole week.
- 0:29Speaker 1: It is Friday, which means it is time for our
- 0:33Speaker 1: Friday round table from Windsor Regional Hospital. Stever one joins
- 0:37Speaker 1: me right now.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, doing worry John, Good to be here.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Great to have you here in the studio. We also
- 0:42Speaker 1: have Alicia Higginson from Tacomseee City Council. How you doing
- 0:47Speaker 1: doing really well? Thanks for joining me. We also have
- 0:51Speaker 1: who all of you of course, now, Dave Cassidy in
- 0:53Speaker 1: the studio. How you doing.
- 0:55Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Thanks for having me here.
- 0:57Speaker 1: How's a retirement?
- 0:58Speaker 3: Stress free? Loving it?
- 1:00Speaker 1: That's no more phone calls, no more like just got
- 1:02Speaker 1: to deal with this right now. Yeah, I didn't even
- 1:04Speaker 1: realize my phone worked anymore. Well, We're glad to have
- 1:07Speaker 1: all of you here in the studio. Thanks for joining
- 1:10Speaker 1: nine oh eight right now here on this Friday long weekend,
- 1:13Speaker 1: Labor Day weekend. So we're just gonna start things off
- 1:15Speaker 1: with a little bit of a quick rundown. I mean,
- 1:18Speaker 1: you all know everything is sometimes open, sometimes closed. What
- 1:21Speaker 1: is open? What is closed? You can head to uh
- 1:23Speaker 1: CTV Windsor they've got a great article up that's saying
- 1:26Speaker 1: talking about what's open and closed this long weekend. But
- 1:28Speaker 1: we want to know from our guests around the table,
- 1:30Speaker 1: what are you gonna get up to this long weekend? Steve,
- 1:32Speaker 1: just chill it out.
- 1:34Speaker 2: You know. The highlight will probably be my son's marching band,
- 1:36Speaker 2: that's Windsor Optimist Youth Band, and they'll participate in the
- 1:39Speaker 2: annual Labor Day parade that leaves from the Day's Old
- 1:42Speaker 2: Shop at four forty four on Turner Road and goes
- 1:45Speaker 2: down to Ottawa Street. And that's a that's a that's
- 1:48Speaker 2: a fun parade for the kids and a good chance
- 1:50Speaker 2: if you're in the area and want to go check
- 1:52Speaker 2: out the amazing musicians and our Windsor Optimist Youth band,
- 1:55Speaker 2: then please do that. And otherwise it's going to be
- 1:58Speaker 2: uh just a good weekend in THEA. I think you know,
- 2:01Speaker 2: no no shirt, no shoes, no service, no problems, So you.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Know that sounds that visual important. Nothing wrong with that.
- 2:13Speaker 1: It sounds like a really nice week Alicia, how about yourself?
- 2:18Speaker 1: What's on tap for the Labor Day weekend?
- 2:20Speaker 4: I'll probably keep my shirt on, but well, I have
- 2:26Speaker 4: four of us in my house go back to school
- 2:28Speaker 4: on Monday, so I've got to in high school this year,
- 2:31Speaker 4: one in university, and myself, I'm going back to finish
- 2:34Speaker 4: my masters. So we take advantage of all of the
- 2:37Speaker 4: summer festivals that happen around this uh this time of
- 2:41Speaker 4: year to get everybody celebrating the end of summer. So
- 2:43Speaker 4: I'll be at there's one to come see celebrating the
- 2:46Speaker 4: end of summer. Tomorrow night, we're doing some fireworks in
- 2:50Speaker 4: Lakewood Park and all kinds of good bonfire and stuff.
- 2:53Speaker 4: And then the ever popular I grew up in Harrow
- 2:55Speaker 4: Harrow Fair is this weekend, so we will be out there.
- 2:59Speaker 4: Pie auction was stellar last night. For anybody that missed it,
- 3:02Speaker 4: what a shame. So we'll be out there this weekend
- 3:06Speaker 4: too with my kids.
- 3:06Speaker 1: What the pie go for?
- 3:08Speaker 4: There was two pies that sold for ten thousand dollars.
- 3:11Speaker 4: It's wild, It is wild. It is cool to watch
- 3:15Speaker 4: the coolest stories last year. I don't know if you
- 3:17Speaker 4: guys know this hair Affairs in the Guinness Booker World
- 3:19Speaker 4: Records highest pie were sold at an auction fifteen thousand dollars,
- 3:24Speaker 4: So it is a It is an excellent event to
- 3:26Speaker 4: go to. It starts off the hair Afare on a bank,
- 3:28Speaker 4: so we always go to watch the pie auction, but
- 3:31Speaker 4: then the parade and stuff is.
- 3:33Speaker 2: What a fifteen thousand dollars pie tastes like?
- 3:35Speaker 4: Right delicious? Everybrite it better.
- 3:41Speaker 1: I just hope it's like an apple, or like if
- 3:43Speaker 1: it's a mulberry, I'm gonna be a little upset for
- 3:45Speaker 1: fifteen grand They got.
- 3:46Speaker 4: A lot of different varieties.
- 3:47Speaker 2: I'll tell you that strawberry Rubert.
- 3:51Speaker 4: That was one of the ten thousands. I'll tell you that.
- 3:54Speaker 1: There you go, and how about yourself, David.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Well, the family is heading to our trailer up in
- 3:59Speaker 3: hand Over, and I got a little bit of work
- 4:02Speaker 3: to do around the house and yard works, so I'm
- 4:05Speaker 3: going to let the family go up there with the
- 4:06Speaker 3: grand kid. He's going to be up there with Grandma.
- 4:10Speaker 3: And there's about six or seven of them up there.
- 4:13Speaker 3: So there was enough room in the van for me,
- 4:15Speaker 3: so I thought I'd stay home. So me and the
- 4:17Speaker 3: dogs will stay home this weekend and just chill.
- 4:20Speaker 1: You're really you've shifted so well into retirement life like
- 4:25Speaker 1: that is the laziest grandpa answer I ever.
- 4:28Speaker 3: I might get around the golf in We'll see.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Well, hey, taking a look here at Windsor, Essex. We
- 4:36Speaker 1: know that administrative offices for the city are going to
- 4:39Speaker 1: be closed. There was supposed to be a Development and
- 4:42Speaker 1: Heritage meeting on Monday, it's moved to Tuesday. Devonshire Mall
- 4:44Speaker 1: is open eleven till six the six most grocery stores
- 4:47Speaker 1: are open. The beer store is going to be open
- 4:49Speaker 1: as well. Closed post offices, banks, government offices, public libraries
- 4:53Speaker 1: and most lcbos. Thank you CTV Windsor for being incredibly
- 4:58Speaker 1: clear about which l CBOs will be open, most will
- 5:02Speaker 1: be closed, which ones won't be You go try them all.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Let us know you can tell.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Us seven ninety two c KLW. You know it's a
- 5:10Speaker 1: laborty weekend, of course, you know it's signifying the end
- 5:13Speaker 1: of traditional summer, though not the season itself. Steve, are
- 5:18Speaker 1: you a stickler when it comes to like when summer
- 5:20Speaker 1: actually ends. This is something that gets under my skin
- 5:23Speaker 1: when people go, well, summer's over. It's September. It's like, no, no, no,
- 5:25Speaker 1: we still got like twenty six days left of this.
- 5:27Speaker 2: Oh man, you don't have kids, John. You know, Labor
- 5:30Speaker 2: Day happens, kids go back to school, things get back
- 5:32Speaker 2: into routine. And my wife I told her us all
- 5:35Speaker 2: all the last couple of weeks, like they need to
- 5:37Speaker 2: go back so badly. And my kids are older now too.
- 5:40Speaker 2: They're in They're going to say an, it's high school. Agree,
- 5:42Speaker 2: they're going to grade ten and grade eleven, and they're
- 5:44Speaker 2: interes in that tea. I did the same thing we
- 5:46Speaker 2: all did teenage lazy mode. I'm gonna sleep until noon.
- 5:49Speaker 2: I'm gonna play video games still four in the morning.
- 5:52Speaker 2: I'm just gonna chat online with my friends all day.
- 5:54Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, there is no structure for these kids.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Just go back right. Summer's over, vacation's over. Kids, get
- 6:00Speaker 2: your backpacks, get your books, let's go.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Is that the same for you, Alicia?
- 6:05Speaker 4: Gosh, we need a schedule, oof, we need to like
- 6:08Speaker 4: you know, we do that this week. We try to
- 6:10Speaker 4: do the wake up a little earlier. And I mean
- 6:12Speaker 4: maybe we're at nine thirty by this point, which your
- 6:14Speaker 4: two classes in at nine thirty on a school day.
- 6:17Speaker 4: So it's going to be a rough transition, but man, yes,
- 6:20Speaker 4: we all need it. And I remember when I used
- 6:23Speaker 4: to shop for back to school clothes and it was
- 6:26Speaker 4: like a nice, cute little sweater and a pair of pants,
- 6:29Speaker 4: and absolutely that is not happening anymore. It's shorts and
- 6:31Speaker 4: t shirts till like the end of September. So so
- 6:35Speaker 4: things have changed in the kind of feel of what
- 6:38Speaker 4: sun Parlor area feels like in September. But it is
- 6:41Speaker 4: the official end of summer. I agree. When you have kids,
- 6:44Speaker 4: it's like you'd make the transition and you're kind of
- 6:46Speaker 4: gripping and waiting for it by the end of a
- 6:49Speaker 4: summer full of nothing.
- 6:52Speaker 1: How about yourself, heyd, is it still summertime?
- 6:54Speaker 3: In summer?
- 6:55Speaker 1: It's always summer all ye, it's pretty good.
- 6:58Speaker 3: My daughter she she's entering law school. She just started
- 7:03Speaker 3: a week ago. She's doing the dual JD here in
- 7:06Speaker 3: Windsor in the US. So I had to go over
- 7:10Speaker 3: to an open house and I think that it was
- 7:13Speaker 3: I don't know if it was an open house or
- 7:15Speaker 3: make sure you bring your checkbook beating, But other than that,
- 7:18Speaker 3: I mean, it's listen, it's great. I mean the summer.
- 7:21Speaker 3: There's no real cutoff for me. The cutoff this year,
- 7:25Speaker 3: I think is going to be when I can't golf anymore.
- 7:28Speaker 3: And I was talking to my cousin who is a
- 7:30Speaker 3: really avid golfer, and he only missed one month last
- 7:34Speaker 3: year as he went right through the whole winter. So
- 7:37Speaker 3: there's a golf course in Chatham that stays open all
- 7:39Speaker 3: year round, and as long as there's no stow on
- 7:42Speaker 3: the ground, you can play there. So there's really no
- 7:45Speaker 3: end of the summer for me, other than I might
- 7:48Speaker 3: close the pool up once she gets a little too cold,
- 7:50Speaker 3: because I'm in that thing every morning. Once she gets
- 7:52Speaker 3: a little too cold, I'm not going in. It.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Sounds like such a stressful life. If only we could
- 7:58Speaker 1: all deal with those types of stressors. Oh, the pool's
- 8:01Speaker 1: too cool, you gotta close it here, you'll get there now,
- 8:04Speaker 1: we've got to go golf.
- 8:05Speaker 2: I guess it's forty more years for you, John Lee.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Gotta work to the end. Hey, it's nine fifteen right now.
- 8:12Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break. When we get back
- 8:14Speaker 1: on the other side, we're gonna move into a bit
- 8:16Speaker 1: more of some serious conversations than labor day, we have
- 8:19Speaker 1: some bait being thrown into the proverbial waters from the
- 8:23Speaker 1: opposition leader, Pierre Pauallyev, urging the NDP leader jug Meet
- 8:26Speaker 1: Sing to end the deal with the Liberals, throw it
- 8:29Speaker 1: in the garbage, kill it and force a fall election.
- 8:33Speaker 1: That's the AAM eight hundred newspol question. Should the NDP
- 8:35Speaker 1: take the bait force the election? We'll hear from our
- 8:38Speaker 1: Friday roundtable guests Steve Irwin, Dave Cassidy and Alisia Higginson
- 8:43Speaker 1: right after this break, John Lenkey here on AM eight hundred. Hey,
- 8:47Speaker 1: we're back, folks. A little bit of follow up boy
- 8:48Speaker 1: there to come in from the commercial break. Why not
- 8:51Speaker 1: nine to nineteen We are getting back into our Friday roundtable.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Steve Irwin, David Cassidy and Alisia Higginson joining me here
- 8:58Speaker 1: in studio. And the AMA eight hundred CKLW newspool question,
- 9:01Speaker 1: which you can answer at amate hundred SKW dot com,
- 9:05Speaker 1: is should the NDP take Pierre Paulyev's bait force an election?
- 9:10Speaker 1: That's not exactly what the question is, but I rephrased
- 9:12Speaker 1: it a little bit and it's what we're gonna be
- 9:14Speaker 1: asking our roundtable today. You know they've the Liberals and
- 9:16Speaker 1: the NDP of the Supply and Confidence Agreement. The NDP says, look,
- 9:19Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot out of this. We've gotten pharmacare
- 9:22Speaker 1: we've gotten dental care, we've gotten a lunch program for students.
- 9:27Speaker 1: We're getting results from it. But at the same time,
- 9:30Speaker 1: Dug Meat sing is going, this is the worst government
- 9:32Speaker 1: that we've ever had in history here justin Trudeau is
- 9:34Speaker 1: just in bed with corporate lobbyists and with grocers and
- 9:37Speaker 1: the telcoms, and this government needs to go. So Peer
- 9:40Speaker 1: Paulyev is saying, hey, then end it right now. Force
- 9:44Speaker 1: an election. Of course, Dug Meet Singh has like what
- 9:46Speaker 1: two point four million reasons not to force an election
- 9:49Speaker 1: right now, becoming eligible for his full pension tax free
- 9:53Speaker 1: in February. So Steve will bring your voice in should
- 9:56Speaker 1: he take the bait force an election? Will he take
- 10:00Speaker 1: the bait enforce the election.
- 10:02Speaker 2: It's interesting that you mentioned the pension element, because that
- 10:05Speaker 2: that that gets discussed a lot behind the scenes. Right
- 10:08Speaker 2: people know when that date is or they reach that
- 10:10Speaker 2: it's an eight year threshold if I don't remember correctly,
- 10:12Speaker 2: so you know that calculation comes up and not just
- 10:15Speaker 2: the leaders, I mean throughout all the caucuses, everybody. Yeah,
- 10:18Speaker 2: so let's just keep going until we get to that
- 10:19Speaker 2: point and then I'm comfortable. But I mean, if you
- 10:22Speaker 2: just look at this completely politically, it just all depends
- 10:24Speaker 2: on where you're setting. If you're a Tory supporter, yeah,
- 10:26Speaker 2: let's let's eff and go right. You know, he's high
- 10:28Speaker 2: in the polls, Peer's doing well, Trudeau's not doing well.
- 10:32Speaker 2: They would love to rip the band off and just
- 10:34Speaker 2: get out there. Right now. You're the Liberals and you're thinking, Okay,
- 10:37Speaker 2: is Trudeau gonna stare? Should it go? It sounds like
- 10:40Speaker 2: he's gonna stay. I'm not getting the sense from him
- 10:42Speaker 2: that he's wavering on that, but I mean people I
- 10:45Speaker 2: taught to that are smarter and more inside than I am.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Telling me, like, if he's gonna make a decision to leave,
- 10:50Speaker 2: probably got to be by Christmas. So I think they're
- 10:53Speaker 2: probably gonna drag that out and see what happens there,
- 10:55Speaker 2: and by the new year you'll know is it going
- 10:56Speaker 2: to be justin trudeau Liberal campaign or is it gonna
- 10:59Speaker 2: be nobody else? And then they put some new Democrats
- 11:02Speaker 2: in this awkward position where you know, I heard Brian
- 11:05Speaker 2: Massey on the radio this morning on this clip, And
- 11:07Speaker 2: I get what Brian's saying, right that the dental program
- 11:09Speaker 2: is really important to the new Democrats. They'd like to
- 11:12Speaker 2: see that go through uh to fruition and actually get
- 11:14Speaker 2: implemented and properly. And I and I and I get
- 11:17Speaker 2: his point on that. Ideologically absolutely, the NDP itself has
- 11:21Speaker 2: to make a big calculation here. And my gosh, do
- 11:24Speaker 2: you want to be the party that kind of introduces
- 11:28Speaker 2: the Tory government to people that don't want it? Your
- 11:30Speaker 2: own supporters may not want that, right, So it may
- 11:32Speaker 2: be just as in jug Meat's interest, just to keep
- 11:35Speaker 2: keep ragging that puck for a little while longer and
- 11:37Speaker 2: see where it goes, right. And uh, you know the
- 11:39Speaker 2: one thing I'll think I'll say is, you know people
- 11:41Speaker 2: talk about justin Trude, whether you should step down or not.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Who's having that conversation about jug Meat's saying he's been
- 11:46Speaker 2: there a while now, like he hasn't to me, he
- 11:48Speaker 2: hasn't picked up that that popularity that's going to propel
- 11:51Speaker 2: him right in the next election. So I'm interested to
- 11:55Speaker 2: see where those conversations might go in the next few
- 11:57Speaker 2: months as well.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the NDP have probably reached their
- 12:00Speaker 1: already reach their high water mark under this leadership right now.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I can't see them changing things to get more support.
- 12:07Speaker 1: And then on the flip side, I think the question
- 12:09Speaker 1: with Justin Trudeau is how low can support actually go
- 12:12Speaker 1: with him? Like, what the what's the actual floor? Because
- 12:15Speaker 1: those numbers do keep going down.
- 12:17Speaker 2: And is this the bottom end? Does the econogy improve
- 12:19Speaker 2: and then suddenly you're in a better position to go
- 12:21Speaker 2: to the polls six months from now?
- 12:22Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't think anyone's going to be looking
- 12:24Speaker 1: to actually in earnest have an election, or call an election,
- 12:27Speaker 1: or begin to campaign until we know who the US
- 12:29Speaker 1: president is, absolutely meaning so at least there won't be
- 12:33Speaker 1: talking about this until November the sixth.
- 12:35Speaker 2: That would be a strong guest too. And I can't
- 12:37Speaker 2: see them having parallel campaigns.
- 12:39Speaker 1: I think that would be a difficult for voter because
- 12:40Speaker 1: with the Canadian media would just be covered in the
- 12:42Speaker 1: US election.
- 12:43Speaker 2: There would be so much Trump Harris coverage that it
- 12:45Speaker 2: would just drown out anything on the Canadian campaign trail.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Right, Alicia, should he take the bait? Should he force
- 12:52Speaker 1: the election?
- 12:53Speaker 4: You know, I read that letter and it seemed to
- 12:55Speaker 4: me like a deeply unseerious letter to send from somebody
- 12:58Speaker 4: who wants to be leader of a country.
- 13:02Speaker 1: How could you say that it's a letter that included
- 13:04Speaker 1: the word sellout Sing in it.
- 13:06Speaker 4: It seems like the kind of letter I would write
- 13:07Speaker 4: to people in high school and leave it in their
- 13:09Speaker 4: locker when I didn't want to approach them in the
- 13:11Speaker 4: all way. So to me, if we're leading into an
- 13:15Speaker 4: election with that kind of of sentiment, I think Sing
- 13:20Speaker 4: does have all the the questions in his mind that's
- 13:23Speaker 4: deep brought up. But also elections are expensive, and what
- 13:26Speaker 4: does everybody's war chest look like? And I don't mean
- 13:29Speaker 4: expensive just in terms of money, although I do absolutely
- 13:32Speaker 4: mean that. I also mean in terms of supporters and volunteers.
- 13:36Speaker 4: And when you're looking at what it costs in all
- 13:40Speaker 4: senses to run an election, you have to have all
- 13:44Speaker 4: of that lined up before you are willing to pull
- 13:46Speaker 4: that plug. I think maybe believes that he has those
- 13:51Speaker 4: in his CBC party. You have to believe, hopefully that
- 13:55Speaker 4: the Liberals being in power this long but also shored
- 13:57Speaker 4: up their own factions in that kind of way. And
- 14:02Speaker 4: so I guess we're looking at the NDP to see
- 14:06Speaker 4: whether they have that. But I don't think this is
- 14:10Speaker 4: the way that you call a serious election. When you're
- 14:14Speaker 4: talking about something as serious as an election question about
- 14:17Speaker 4: the economy, I think you do it thoughtfully and by
- 14:21Speaker 4: the people. And I don't know what the future will hold,
- 14:27Speaker 4: but there's probably a lot of mechanations in the background
- 14:30Speaker 4: beyond what we know on this panel that are making
- 14:33Speaker 4: those decisions.
- 14:34Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting when you talk about like how
- 14:36Speaker 1: much it costs to run an election, not just the
- 14:38Speaker 1: actual money, but like the support, volunteers, the apparatus. We
- 14:43Speaker 1: see that with this by election that's coming up right
- 14:46Speaker 1: now in Montreal. The Liberal Party just they haven't lost staff,
- 14:51Speaker 1: but fifty political staffers have said we're not going to
- 14:54Speaker 1: take part in this election and any part is on
- 14:56Speaker 1: activity whatsoever because of the liberals lack of support Palestinians
- 15:00Speaker 1: or over support for Israel. I'm not sure, because both
- 15:04Speaker 1: of those statements don't really run with what the actual
- 15:07Speaker 1: situation on the ground is. Quite frankly, the Liberals are
- 15:09Speaker 1: overwhelmingly supportive from what I've seen, but regardless, when you
- 15:12Speaker 1: lose fifty staff, they've said, you can't run this election
- 15:15Speaker 1: without the fifty of us. You can you can go
- 15:17Speaker 1: find more donors, sure, but you can't find fifty volunteers
- 15:21Speaker 1: who know what they're doing and are able to execute
- 15:24Speaker 1: it in X amount of days. You lose everything. It's tough, David.
- 15:29Speaker 1: I wonder what you think should Jack meet saying take
- 15:31Speaker 1: this bait from Pierre Paul because that's all it is, right,
- 15:34Speaker 1: it's just bait.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Well, listen, twenty nineteen we had an election, right, twenty
- 15:42Speaker 3: twenty one we had an election which I didn't think
- 15:44Speaker 3: should have happened. Then, you know, I mean, I think
- 15:47Speaker 3: the Libs gained about four or five seats. Conservative state
- 15:51Speaker 3: status quo NDP. I think game two. But the reality is,
- 15:57Speaker 3: you know, do we really need an election? The fact
- 16:00Speaker 3: the matter are Brian Brian articulated very well. Uh when
- 16:03Speaker 3: I listened to him on AMATE hundred uh today, I
- 16:06Speaker 3: think it was today yesterday, And and you know that
- 16:09Speaker 3: that we're quite done yet. But when you look at
- 16:11Speaker 3: the parties, the Liberals feel that that was their mandate
- 16:15Speaker 3: as well to do the same thing. So for him
- 16:17Speaker 3: to call an election and cost the taxpayers money as well,
- 16:21Speaker 3: and and and I don't know if every party is
- 16:24Speaker 3: financially set for it. But I can tell you anything
- 16:27Speaker 3: that he does as a federal Conservative, I am against.
- 16:31Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why, because this is the same
- 16:34Speaker 3: guy in Windsor, Essex County that we would not have
- 16:37Speaker 3: had a battery plant because he calls it corporate welfare.
- 16:40Speaker 3: He doesn't think that anybody should be supporting any type
- 16:43Speaker 3: of program whatsoever. And if it wasn't for the Liberals
- 16:47Speaker 3: and the provincial Conservatives, would not have the battery plant
- 16:51Speaker 3: going over there today, you know, instead of looking at
- 16:55Speaker 3: it as a return on investment, it was nothing but
- 16:58Speaker 3: corporate well, and he has he's been very clear about
- 17:00Speaker 3: things like that. So anything that that comes out of
- 17:02Speaker 3: that man's mouth I have a problem with. So when
- 17:06Speaker 3: he throws these pews out there to dissolve the government
- 17:09Speaker 3: and the non confidence vote, et cetera, it just makes
- 17:12Speaker 3: me crazy. So anyways, I don't think that we should
- 17:15Speaker 3: be doing this. There is as you said, this year,
- 17:19Speaker 3: we're going to have well we have across the ditch,
- 17:22Speaker 3: we got the you know, the the election going on
- 17:25Speaker 3: over there, and that that's a I think it's on
- 17:27Speaker 3: everybody's mind. And then potentially there could be something provincially
- 17:33Speaker 3: as well. So one of the things I would love
- 17:36Speaker 3: to see maybe change in John, maybe you can help
- 17:38Speaker 3: me out here, is why can't we have these terms
- 17:42Speaker 3: and instead of every well in a year, we can
- 17:45Speaker 3: just turn it over. Brian Massey's been in how many years?
- 17:48Speaker 3: Have been in? Seventeen eighteen? I don't know, he's been
- 17:49Speaker 3: there forever? And how man laction do you think the
- 17:52Speaker 3: guy's been in when if there was like the like
- 17:54Speaker 3: the province, it would be every four years we're having
- 17:57Speaker 3: an election, correct, but federally they can what every time
- 18:01Speaker 3: that there's a non confidence Oh, we're going to the polls.
- 18:04Speaker 2: So.
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- 19:14Speaker 1: We have Steve Erwin, David Cassady and Alicia Higginson joining
- 19:17Speaker 1: me around the table here. And the City of Windsor
- 19:20Speaker 1: and the Ontario government are still trying to tackle the
- 19:23Speaker 1: growing homeless population. This year, the city reported seven hundred
- 19:26Speaker 1: households experiencing some form of homelessness across Windsor, Essex and
- 19:33Speaker 1: downtown Word three Councilor Ronaldo Augustino says, we have to
- 19:36Speaker 1: figure out a better way because whatever we've been trying,
- 19:40Speaker 1: clearly it's not working. And the city is looking to
- 19:44Speaker 1: the H four hub, the Homelessness and Housing Help Hub,
- 19:47Speaker 1: which is going to be constructed by twenty twenty eight.
- 19:50Speaker 1: There's already the temporary one which is set up at
- 19:53Speaker 1: water World, and Mary Dilkins actually says, so the province
- 19:56Speaker 1: introduced this heart hub when they closed the application process
- 20:00Speaker 1: for the consumption and Treatment sites. Mayor Dilkins says that
- 20:03Speaker 1: the H four is a mouthful to say. We rather
- 20:07Speaker 1: say the Heart Hub. I don't know. H four is
- 20:10Speaker 1: two letters. That's pretty easy for me. H four, But
- 20:12Speaker 1: I guess go, if we're gonna go to the Heart hub,
- 20:14Speaker 1: now it's the H two. So H four to H
- 20:17Speaker 1: two that seems like it's the same mouthful, two letters
- 20:19Speaker 1: in a row. But I digress. We're not going to
- 20:21Speaker 1: have a conversation here about acronyms. Steve, you know, listen,
- 20:26Speaker 1: this this homelessness issue is a serious one. The compounded
- 20:30Speaker 1: effects from homelessness obviously impact the hospital system where people
- 20:33Speaker 1: are needing to access health services. I wonder what you
- 20:39Speaker 1: think needs to be done should be done. Do you
- 20:41Speaker 1: think we're on the right track when it comes to
- 20:42Speaker 1: addressing this growing issue?
- 20:44Speaker 2: You know, I think I think we need creative solutions.
- 20:46Speaker 2: And the counselor is right. I mean, this is an
- 20:49Speaker 2: ongoing problem. It hasn't seemed to get any better over
- 20:52Speaker 2: the years. I used to sit on the board of
- 20:53Speaker 2: the Downtown Mission a few years ago, and there were
- 20:56Speaker 2: different ideas that were thrown around, and nothing seemed to
- 20:59Speaker 2: be happy the impact that we all kind of desire
- 21:02Speaker 2: from this. So and I talk about creative solutions, I mean,
- 21:06Speaker 2: you know, it's it's given given people that that help
- 21:08Speaker 2: where they need it. You know, Win's Regil Hospital and
- 21:10Speaker 2: and When's the Police Service has the Nurse Police Team.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Hotel Do has something similar called the Call was called
- 21:16Speaker 2: the oh my gosh, it was called the Coast program,
- 21:17Speaker 2: and sorry, Nicole, I can't remember the name of it now.
- 21:21Speaker 2: But but the two two excellent kind of projects that
- 21:24Speaker 2: were initiated by the hospitals with collaboration with police, getting
- 21:27Speaker 2: to individuals on the street, given them the help that
- 21:30Speaker 2: they need to kind of avoid those ZR visits. Those
- 21:32Speaker 2: are the kind of creative solutions that I think we
- 21:34Speaker 2: need more of.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Right.
- 21:35Speaker 2: That was a great collaboration with some of some really
- 21:38Speaker 2: good people at both organizations and in our case with
- 21:42Speaker 2: Win's the region and our mental health staff, our emergency
- 21:44Speaker 2: department staff are amazing nurses that go out there on
- 21:47Speaker 2: the streets, and that's a that's not a difficult that's
- 21:49Speaker 2: that's a very difficult and challenging job to go out
- 21:52Speaker 2: with a police team. You've got your your your flack
- 21:55Speaker 2: jackets on and everything. You're protected because you don't know
- 21:57Speaker 2: what you're walking into. And God bless them. I mean,
- 22:00Speaker 2: they're out there doing amazing work and we're seeing some
- 22:04Speaker 2: results from that. So it's those kind of creative opportunities.
- 22:06Speaker 2: And outside the box is such a cliche. I think
- 22:09Speaker 2: we're beyond the box at this point, you know, but
- 22:12Speaker 2: you know clearly what we've been doing for the last
- 22:15Speaker 2: twenty years isn't having the impact we want. So it
- 22:18Speaker 2: needs to be fresh ideas like that. So I'm you know,
- 22:20Speaker 2: I'll be the person I'll say I'm optimistic about heart
- 22:23Speaker 2: Hub and see what I can come up with us Again,
- 22:25Speaker 2: some good people, some good thought behind it. Let's see
- 22:28Speaker 2: how it gets implemented and see what kind of impact
- 22:30Speaker 2: it might have.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Alicia, Obviously, homelessness is not something that's isolated to winsor
- 22:35Speaker 1: All communities are facing issues with it and it's increasing.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I want to read you just one quote here based
- 22:40Speaker 1: on first ten experiences. There's a gentleman named Kyle who's
- 22:43Speaker 1: in this article here that CTV put out. Kyle says
- 22:46Speaker 1: that current shelters are unsafe. He says he hopes that
- 22:49Speaker 1: new investments in the community could one day help people
- 22:51Speaker 1: like him. His quote, We're just trying to live like
- 22:55Speaker 1: everybody else.
- 22:57Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because I think
- 22:58Speaker 4: it is not just a city Wins a problem. You're
- 23:02Speaker 4: seeing it in other municipalities too. To come see is
- 23:04Speaker 4: not immune. I think there's some invisible homelessness out there
- 23:10Speaker 4: that I think really does impact everybody around and it's
- 23:13Speaker 4: up to all of us to take the responsibility. Steve,
- 23:17Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up mental health because I think
- 23:20Speaker 4: that is an important component to quote unquote solving homelessness. Listen,
- 23:25Speaker 4: if the three of us, four of us in this
- 23:27Speaker 4: room come up with a solve for homelessness in this
- 23:29Speaker 4: twenty minutes, they should pa US more money. But the
- 23:33Speaker 4: truth is that it's complex and it's housing first needs
- 23:39Speaker 4: to be the solution. But that is proving to be
- 23:42Speaker 4: an incredibly complex issue, and who's responsible for that for
- 23:47Speaker 4: that issue. The federal government is changing policy and putting
- 23:50Speaker 4: money towards it. Provincial government is doing the same thing.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Municipalities are not builders, but we unlock the ability for
- 23:57Speaker 4: developers to be able to build homes intercomsy. We just
- 24:02Speaker 4: we had our first inaugural meeting actually of our Housing
- 24:05Speaker 4: Action Plan Advisory Panel, where we kind of gathered local
- 24:09Speaker 4: experts together and we're really trying to learn from them
- 24:13Speaker 4: about what's actually happening on the ground and what sorts
- 24:15Speaker 4: of things we can do. I come from municipality where
- 24:17Speaker 4: eighty one percent of the housing stock is a single
- 24:18Speaker 4: family home, in a municipality where a thousand people a
- 24:22Speaker 4: month are new people are moving here, and we just
- 24:26Speaker 4: haven't kept up with inflation and there's no way we
- 24:28Speaker 4: can afford. I think the stat is what that they
- 24:31Speaker 4: average home in this region is six hundred thousand dollars.
- 24:38Speaker 4: The solutions to that are not easy and they're not quick,
- 24:41Speaker 4: which is some of the trouble. But we do have
- 24:44Speaker 4: to provide the opportunity for there to be a different
- 24:48Speaker 4: housing stock, affordable housing stock, attainable housing stock, and we
- 24:53Speaker 4: have to get people stabily in those homes with the
- 24:55Speaker 4: wrap around supports that they need in the community. I
- 24:58Speaker 4: think that is the quote unquote so to it. But
- 25:01Speaker 4: it doesn't just rest at the feet of people experiencing homelessness.
- 25:03Speaker 4: It's all of us. And when you take it in
- 25:07Speaker 4: those kind of broad context you realize that it is
- 25:10Speaker 4: kind of a really slow moving vehicle at a time
- 25:12Speaker 4: when we need quick paces. So I'm grateful to see
- 25:16Speaker 4: solutions like what Steve said, so that we can kind
- 25:20Speaker 4: of keep those building blocks going as we as we
- 25:23Speaker 4: can make some of the bigger changes.
- 25:24Speaker 1: So this is what I get frustrated with, like when
- 25:26Speaker 1: government wants to move fast. And this is not at
- 25:28Speaker 1: all the criticism, but you and I completely recognize that
- 25:30Speaker 1: the city has the least that can actually impact this
- 25:34Speaker 1: other than the unlocking of the lands, as you said,
- 25:36Speaker 1: But like when government wants to move fast, government can
- 25:38Speaker 1: move fast. We saw that happen during COVID. Things changed
- 25:41Speaker 1: completely overnight, checks were written, processes were destroyed, new ones
- 25:46Speaker 1: were implemented. We're dealing with the outcomes of that right now,
- 25:49Speaker 1: with investigations and trying to figure out if every dollar
- 25:51Speaker 1: was spent right and evidently not in some cases. But
- 25:55Speaker 1: I mean it you say it's complex to me, the
- 25:57Speaker 1: answer as well, just build build they'll build, build more homes,
- 26:00Speaker 1: build tiny homes, figure out a way to get people
- 26:02Speaker 1: off streets into a place where they can live, and
- 26:05Speaker 1: then figure out what the next step after that is.
- 26:08Speaker 1: But I recognize that there are budgets and there needs
- 26:12Speaker 1: to be transparency and making sure that there aren't developers
- 26:15Speaker 1: running off with big pools of money because somebody didn't
- 26:18Speaker 1: take a look and notice that there aren't actually garages
- 26:20Speaker 1: that are being built on all of these homes and
- 26:23Speaker 1: when they were supposed to be and it wasn't account for.
- 26:24Speaker 1: I mean, there's lots of reasons why things can't happen overnight,
- 26:26Speaker 1: but it just it gets frustrating for the average person
- 26:29Speaker 1: to go like, why can't we just build? Well?
- 26:31Speaker 4: And I recognize that, and I think that everybody hates
- 26:33Speaker 4: red tape only I think part of the reason that
- 26:36Speaker 4: red tape becomes the way that it is is because
- 26:37Speaker 4: at one point decisions were made that hurt someone so
- 26:42Speaker 4: I mean, we have building codes because there were places
- 26:45Speaker 4: built that were unsafe for people. Did they get out
- 26:47Speaker 4: of hand? Yeah, and we need to claw those back,
- 26:49Speaker 4: But it's the ability to how do you close those back?
- 26:51Speaker 4: We have an AODA, We have all these things that
- 26:54Speaker 4: we have to actually if we're thinking about housing people,
- 26:57Speaker 4: we have to actually think about the housing that they
- 26:59Speaker 4: need and they deserve. And whose responsibility is that It
- 27:04Speaker 4: often lass rests on the developer. And frankly, the developer
- 27:06Speaker 4: needs to make money because they're borrowing money from the
- 27:08Speaker 4: bank and they need to pay that back. And so
- 27:11Speaker 4: I don't begrudge them the need for them to present
- 27:15Speaker 4: a good business plan. Only all the components have to
- 27:19Speaker 4: fit together so that that they can actually present a
- 27:23Speaker 4: good business plan. To be able to do that, that
- 27:25Speaker 4: becomes more difficult the more red tape you put on it.
- 27:27Speaker 1: Well, you know, listen, there's a reason for red tape.
- 27:30Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. My dad always said, before you go
- 27:32Speaker 1: tearing down the fence, you should probably go ask someone
- 27:34Speaker 1: why the fence was built in the first place. You
- 27:36Speaker 1: might not see the reason for it, but who knows.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Maybe in the middle of the night there's a bunch
- 27:40Speaker 1: of wolves that show up and if you get rid
- 27:41Speaker 1: of the fence, they're all just going to wander ound
- 27:43Speaker 1: of the property and eat the kids. You know, that's
- 27:45Speaker 1: the extreme. That would be more of what my mom
- 27:47Speaker 1: might think, you know, just the worst case. But hey, David,
- 27:51Speaker 1: what do you think about this one? I mean, like
- 27:52Speaker 1: the homelessness issue, it is one that affects all of
- 27:54Speaker 1: us here in our community.
- 27:55Speaker 3: O sure does it's you know, I mean I was
- 27:58Speaker 3: happy to see the province notes in the vestment, you know,
- 28:00Speaker 3: of four hundred million or just a hundred four undred million.
- 28:04Speaker 3: What will that do is scratch the surface, I think,
- 28:06Speaker 3: But it's a start. And and you know, when at
- 28:09Speaker 3: least says things like the red tape in our in
- 28:14Speaker 3: our municipalities, uh, there is way too much red tape.
- 28:18Speaker 3: So I believe not just a city Windsors. So we
- 28:21Speaker 3: talked about the Cumsie, we talked about Ryley of Essex.
- 28:24Speaker 3: I think that there's an opportunity just to get the
- 28:28Speaker 3: people up the street to build these facilities, whether you
- 28:31Speaker 3: talk about tiny home or whatever, because right now they're everywhere.
- 28:34Speaker 3: They're in camps, they're they're in but everybody says not
- 28:37Speaker 3: in my backyard right Nobody wants them around them, and
- 28:40Speaker 3: it's really sad. I mean when you see people just
- 28:46Speaker 3: don't really care about them. I mean, I've been down
- 28:48Speaker 3: H four many a times, many at times. I spent
- 28:51Speaker 3: a lot of time there. And the program that Steve
- 28:55Speaker 3: talked about in the core with the police and the
- 28:58Speaker 3: nurses taking care of people to keep them out of
- 29:03Speaker 3: the emergency rooms, et cetera, is an amazing program that
- 29:06Speaker 3: they've put together. They've done a lot of really good
- 29:08Speaker 3: things there. But where do they put them? Do they
- 29:10Speaker 3: put them at Glengarry on the corner right now where
- 29:13Speaker 3: we have full time police that have just gone in
- 29:16Speaker 3: there because of everything that's going on. Do we put
- 29:18Speaker 3: them next door to Glengarry where there's good programs, We
- 29:21Speaker 3: have counselors, they're actually a trustee that takes care of
- 29:25Speaker 3: their finances that come in, so they're headed in the
- 29:29Speaker 3: right direction there, but we don't have enough of those
- 29:31Speaker 3: facilities for them. And then there's the other group that
- 29:34Speaker 3: they just don't want any help whatsoever, which brings it
- 29:38Speaker 3: to the whole mental health, you know, and addictions part
- 29:40Speaker 3: of it, which I think that still more money needs
- 29:43Speaker 3: to go towards that to help us through this whole process.
- 29:46Speaker 3: It is a big, massive issue in every city, doesn't
- 29:52Speaker 3: matter where you are in whatever country, it's happening, and
- 29:56Speaker 3: we have to really get a hold of it. And
- 29:58Speaker 3: you know, anybody that puts their mind to it and
- 30:00Speaker 3: really focus on the mental health and addictions, I think
- 30:03Speaker 3: that's the real start of where it comes from. So
- 30:07Speaker 3: hopefully we're making some progress, baby steps. It's not gonna
- 30:10Speaker 3: happen overnight. But if we could clean up things like
- 30:13Speaker 3: when you drive down here, I take people from out
- 30:16Speaker 3: of town just to show them the back of the
- 30:17Speaker 3: mission sometimes to see how sad it is, because you know,
- 30:21Speaker 3: every time I go around, you know, small things, small things.
- 30:25Speaker 3: My daughter every Christmas cooked meals to take to the
- 30:28Speaker 3: homeless and takes more and many people do that, many
- 30:31Speaker 3: people to do that. Right, we have to really get
- 30:34Speaker 3: control this because I mean my heart, I wish I
- 30:37Speaker 3: could give everybody handles right and help everybody, but does
- 30:40Speaker 3: it really help them. We need to get to the
- 30:42Speaker 3: root of it.
- 30:43Speaker 1: So it's so tough. I mean, you look at so sad.
- 30:47Speaker 1: It's sad. It's tough. I just you know, and again
- 30:51Speaker 1: we look for easy solutions. We look for complex solutions.
- 30:53Speaker 1: We look for any solution that is in front of us,
- 30:56Speaker 1: and right now solutions seemingly are. Not that they're evading us,
- 31:00Speaker 1: it's just that the problem is just growing at such
- 31:03Speaker 1: a pace that I don't think we're able to keep
- 31:05Speaker 1: up with it. It was easier to, you know, go
- 31:08Speaker 1: back to your point, David, for some people, I think,
- 31:10Speaker 1: to ignore the issue, to look past the issue, to
- 31:14Speaker 1: pat themselves on the back and go, well, we're doing
- 31:16Speaker 1: as much as we can when it's just you know,
- 31:18Speaker 1: a couple people here or there. But when it's your
- 31:21Speaker 1: entire downtown core, when it's spreading to other municipalities and
- 31:24Speaker 1: it's very visible. When we hear that there are ten
- 31:27Speaker 1: homeless encampments that are in the city right now and
- 31:30Speaker 1: the city can't do anything about them because of a
- 31:32Speaker 1: provincial Superior Court ruling that said you can't get rid
- 31:35Speaker 1: of them unless you have enough housing to be able
- 31:37Speaker 1: to put those people in. It's tough. And then I mean,
- 31:39Speaker 1: I hear you, David talking about Glengary that it blows
- 31:43Speaker 1: me away that we're going to have a contingent of
- 31:45Speaker 1: two to three police officers at all times inside of
- 31:49Speaker 1: our windsor Essex Community Housing Court main building in the
- 31:52Speaker 1: downtown corep because police have identified this is the biggest
- 31:56Speaker 1: most violent area that we have in the city.
- 31:59Speaker 3: This one so forty eight arrests in the last two
- 32:01Speaker 3: weeks or something.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one that was like twenty people arrested
- 32:04Speaker 1: because of a forcible confinement.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:06Speaker 1: I mean, I've had people come up to me on
- 32:08Speaker 1: the street who go, hey, John, I know that you're
- 32:09Speaker 1: on the radio. I live in the Glengarry House. There's apartments,
- 32:14Speaker 1: there's a story that needs to be told there. And
- 32:16Speaker 1: I mean, and they're dealing with it. And this is
- 32:19Speaker 1: just one component because that's community housing and that's the
- 32:21Speaker 1: next step off of being homeless. Right, But if they're
- 32:24Speaker 1: going into something like that makes people wonder do I
- 32:27Speaker 1: want to apply to it? Because this looks like a
- 32:29Speaker 1: pretty dangerous situation.
- 32:30Speaker 4: You apply to it, you're one of nine thousand.
- 32:32Speaker 1: And then you just have to deal with the fact
- 32:34Speaker 1: that that number continues to increase.
- 32:36Speaker 3: And by the way, I got to give a shout
- 32:38Speaker 3: out to Ronaldo on the downtown because that guy works
- 32:42Speaker 3: tirelessly the issues on the downtown. He you know, he's
- 32:47Speaker 3: out there, he's front center. I know He's helped me
- 32:49Speaker 3: on a few cases, you know, with the housing, and
- 32:54Speaker 3: he's amazing. I mean, this is not a it's just
- 32:58Speaker 3: I love like I have time for people that put
- 33:01Speaker 3: time in and do things like that, not just sit
- 33:02Speaker 3: in the chair. And that's one guy that doesn't sit
- 33:05Speaker 3: in the chair. In the downtown.
- 33:06Speaker 1: You know, Elon Musk is doing those brain chips or whatever.
- 33:09Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Ronaldo had a USB port like plugged
- 33:12Speaker 1: into him, so he just recharges himself and I think
- 33:14Speaker 1: he carries around battery packs with him just to make
- 33:17Speaker 1: sure he's good to go.
- 33:18Speaker 2: Now he's made impression, agreed, David.
- 33:20Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Hey, we got to take another break right now.
- 33:22Speaker 1: It's nine forty eight. When we get back on the
- 33:24Speaker 1: other side, we're going to keep the round table going
- 33:26Speaker 1: with Steve Irwin from Windsor Regional Hospital. David Cassidy, former
- 33:29Speaker 1: president of UNIFOOR four four four right now just retiree
- 33:32Speaker 1: looking forward to swimming and golfing throughout the days. We
- 33:35Speaker 1: also have Alicia Higginson joining. Word one counselor for the
- 33:39Speaker 1: town is to come see John McKey here on am
- 33:40Speaker 1: eatee hundred for back right after this. Hey, we're back
- 33:44Speaker 1: John McKey here amid hundred CKLW. We're at a weird
- 33:47Speaker 1: point right now where we have just enough time for
- 33:49Speaker 1: like one word answers from you guys on this last
- 33:51Speaker 1: topic if we still want to get to plugged in.
- 33:53Speaker 1: So let's try this. When's the police we're able to
- 33:55Speaker 1: recover a stolen vehicle using new technology that they have
- 33:58Speaker 1: on one of their cars. They were driving around. This
- 33:59Speaker 1: thing has looks like Wally on top of the car,
- 34:01Speaker 1: and it's got cameras on it, and the machine went
- 34:04Speaker 1: do do do do?
- 34:04Speaker 3: Do?
- 34:04Speaker 4: Do do do?
- 34:05Speaker 1: We found a stolen car. They went into the parking lot,
- 34:07Speaker 1: they brought back up, They surrounded the car, They got
- 34:09Speaker 1: four people, they were all in the car. They arrested them.
- 34:11Speaker 1: All technology recovered a stolen car, Steve, Should we be
- 34:16Speaker 1: using more tech to deal with road crimes?
- 34:20Speaker 2: Sure? That's a good example of it, right. I mean,
- 34:24Speaker 2: I don't know. I was never a fan of like
- 34:26Speaker 2: the speed cameras and things like that. I just felt
- 34:29Speaker 2: it was I don't know, to me, it's a better
- 34:33Speaker 2: step towards like big Brother stuff and everything. But it
- 34:36Speaker 2: looks hey, it's an example where it worked well, right,
- 34:39Speaker 2: So I don't know, interesting public debate. I don't know.
- 34:43Speaker 2: I get freaked out by AI and all the technology
- 34:45Speaker 2: that's out there, so I get a little skinnish about
- 34:48Speaker 2: any change like that at this point in my life.
- 34:49Speaker 1: But fair enough. How about yourself, Alicia.
- 34:52Speaker 4: I think you kind of touched on it there at
- 34:54Speaker 4: the end. There. AI is coming for us. AI is here,
- 34:58Speaker 4: and if you the hope is that people use it responsibly.
- 35:03Speaker 4: So there is there's a lot to be said about
- 35:06Speaker 4: protecting your own data and protecting your own the things
- 35:10Speaker 4: about your own life when you're dealing with things with technology,
- 35:15Speaker 4: and so we should probably remind ourselves of that. Every
- 35:18Speaker 4: time we click yes to accept all cookies, every time
- 35:20Speaker 4: we go to a website, we're doing those those same things.
- 35:23Speaker 4: We're using technology in that way, so it's just a
- 35:25Speaker 4: little less visible and those sorts of ways a little
- 35:27Speaker 4: more visible when we're thinking about things like wallely on
- 35:31Speaker 4: top of a car.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Okay, And how about yourself, David, I'm good with technology
- 35:35Speaker 1: getting it.
- 35:35Speaker 3: I mean, I'm going nowhere fast right, yeah, vehicle the
- 35:40Speaker 3: I want it back, So if there's technology to get it,
- 35:43Speaker 3: why not.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm not too concerned about the AI
- 35:48Speaker 1: side of things with this or the big brother aspect,
- 35:51Speaker 1: like I take calls about this when it comes to
- 35:53Speaker 1: red light cameras, and all that I hear from people
- 35:55Speaker 1: is just like I want to run red lights. That's
- 35:58Speaker 1: that's all that I can hear.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I really, I was in a hurry, and like you say, like, oh,
- 36:02Speaker 2: I don't.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Like the speedcare, I was like, okay, well, I guess
- 36:04Speaker 1: Steve rwhen leaves the house late, maybe it needs to
- 36:06Speaker 1: get to work right away. But of course I just
- 36:10Speaker 1: iest and I digress. We're going to move into our
- 36:12Speaker 1: plugged in segment, where we let everyone around the table
- 36:14Speaker 1: plug something in that they think needs some attention. Let's
- 36:18Speaker 1: start off with you, David.
- 36:20Speaker 3: Well, listen, this is a big weekend for labor, and
- 36:23Speaker 3: you know, I hope everybody this weekend, as I used
- 36:25Speaker 3: to say, keeps the main thing, the main thing, and
- 36:28Speaker 3: just enjoys themself this weekend, and for the people that
- 36:31Speaker 3: are out there because of the way our world has
- 36:33Speaker 3: gone have to work this weekend. We're thinking about you.
- 36:37Speaker 3: Some of the people I used to represent it the
- 36:39Speaker 3: casino don't get many days off. They're you know, three
- 36:43Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five days a year, so thinking about them.
- 36:46Speaker 3: So just the people on Labor Day weekend doing what
- 36:50Speaker 3: you want to really do. Relax, it's your weekend and
- 36:53Speaker 3: enjoy it.
- 36:54Speaker 1: And there's the Labor Day Parade on Monday.
- 36:56Speaker 3: On Monday, Big Labor Day Parade.
- 36:57Speaker 1: It was there a parade last year, yes before yes, okay.
- 37:01Speaker 3: So well we had one. Some people didn't want us to,
- 37:03Speaker 3: but COVID didn't stop us.
- 37:05Speaker 1: There you go. Labor doesn't stop, okay, Alicia, what needs
- 37:08Speaker 1: to be plugged in?
- 37:10Speaker 4: So into come see this weekend, we're having our end
- 37:12Speaker 4: of Summer celebration. So from six thirty till just after dusk,
- 37:18Speaker 4: we're doing community bonfire and marshmallow roast and long games
- 37:22Speaker 4: and fireworks. And that's going to be at Lakewood Park
- 37:26Speaker 4: South and North. So if you're going, you can use
- 37:29Speaker 4: the bike vallet. Thank you to Bike windsor Essex for
- 37:32Speaker 4: helping us with that, and or you can take the
- 37:34Speaker 4: shuttle because parking is going to be tied up there
- 37:36Speaker 4: and it'll be nice so you can take a walk.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Sounds great, but I will just note this is why
- 37:42Speaker 1: people think that summer ends at the end of August,
- 37:45Speaker 1: because you've got cities that go around and they hold
- 37:47Speaker 1: festivals and proclaim bold things. David, you and I are
- 37:51Speaker 1: not going to be falling.
- 37:54Speaker 4: It's really nice.
- 37:56Speaker 1: It still sounds like it's a great event.
- 37:58Speaker 4: It's a really nice thing to tell my kids. Hey,
- 38:00Speaker 4: we already had an end of summer celebration. Now you've
- 38:02Speaker 4: got to go to school.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Nothing you can do. These are facts, Steve, How about
- 38:06Speaker 1: yourself when needs to be plugged in?
- 38:07Speaker 2: I'll do another quick local music plugs. So my friend's
- 38:10Speaker 2: band ghost Note playing their yacht rock set list at
- 38:14Speaker 2: River's Edge on August thirty first tomorrow, fun go and
- 38:17Speaker 2: get your yacht hat and you're.
- 38:21Speaker 3: Playing.
- 38:23Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not there. I'm not there yet. Dat
- 38:25Speaker 2: I'll let you know when i'm there.
- 38:26Speaker 3: All right. I keep watching him. I keep watching them
- 38:28Speaker 3: on social media singing in that.
- 38:29Speaker 2: So I still doing my open mic nights. And that's
- 38:32Speaker 2: the thing too. You're never too old, right Like this
- 38:34Speaker 2: band I'm talking about. Those are guys in their fifties,
- 38:36Speaker 2: sixty seventies, right, still rocking it out right. I'm in
- 38:40Speaker 2: a Tuesday guitar group on a place called in Tune
- 38:43Speaker 2: on Ottawa Street Tuesday nights at seven thirty. I think
- 38:47Speaker 2: go there and sign up meat people like me, and
- 38:49Speaker 2: you just sit there and jam and learn how to
- 38:51Speaker 2: play guitar when you're in your fifties and that's awesome.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Sounds like we're too young, just do it and life's
- 38:55Speaker 2: too short.
- 38:56Speaker 1: There you go. Hey, well, I want to thank all
- 38:58Speaker 1: of you for joining me today in the studio for
- 39:00Speaker 1: this Friday round table. Steverwhen as the director of Public
- 39:03Speaker 1: Affairs and Communications at Winds the Regional Hospital, Alicia Higginson
- 39:06Speaker 1: is Ward one councilor Town of Tecumpsey. And David Cassidy
- 39:10Speaker 1: former president of Unifor four four four and now just
- 39:13Speaker 1: one of our region's most prolific golfers. So what does
- 39:21Speaker 1: prolific necessarily mean good?
- 39:24Speaker 2: Prolifically bad?
- 39:26Speaker 1: It's nine fifty eight. We're gonna take a quick break
- 39:27Speaker 1: right now. We got the ten o'clock news coming up next.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, folks. John Lydkey here on