Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / The DOJ Moves To Dismiss The Epstein Related Lawsuit Filed By New Mexico (Part 4) (10/18/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
- 0:07Speaker 1: the DOJ's request to get the lawsuit filed by New
- 0:10Speaker 1: Mexico dismissed. See, DOJ properly rejected New Mexico's TUI request
- 0:16Speaker 1: under 28 CFR section 16.26b and 5 because disclosure would
- 0:22Speaker 1: negatively impact law enforcement and violate privileges. DOJ may deny
- 0:27Speaker 1: a TUI request if disclosure would reveal investigatory records compiled
- 0:31Speaker 1: for law enforcement purposes and would interfere with enforcement proceedings
- 0:35Speaker 1: or disclose investigative techniques and procedures, the effectiveness of which
- 0:40Speaker 1: would thereby be impaired. 28 CFR Section 16.26b and 5.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Releasing unredacted Epstein files would reveal case notes, analysis, and
- 0:52Speaker 1: communications containing witness identities and investigative strategies. thus undermining the
- 0:57Speaker 1: effectiveness of those strategies in deterring future informants. These materials
- 1:03Speaker 1: are also shielded by various privileges, including the work product, attorney-client,
- 1:07Speaker 1: and law enforcement privilege. DOJ explicitly invoked these privileges when
- 1:12Speaker 1: denying the two-year request. To the extent the court views
- 1:16Speaker 1: these assertions as generalized, e.g., Answer Cole v. Jewell, DDC 2013,
- 1:23Speaker 1: explaining the law enforcement privilege requires a detailed explanation of
- 1:27Speaker 1: the information withheld and the privilege applicability. U.S. v. Ease,
- 1:31Speaker 1: 24 CR 00380 NCM, at 5, Eastern District, New York,
- 1:34Speaker 1: July 20, 2026. Holding the same for withholding pursuant to
- 1:36Speaker 1: 28 CFR Section 1626B and 5. That is a product
- 1:49Speaker 1: of New Mexico's overbroad request, which demanded all of the
- 1:52Speaker 1: millions of unredacted pages in the Epstein files. Logging an
- 1:57Speaker 1: individualized response for each file would be unduly burdensome and
- 2:01Speaker 1: not reasonably related to the needs of New Mexico's case
- 2:04Speaker 1: since there is no pending case and the 2e request
- 2:07Speaker 1: was not targeted to any particular fact or issue. New
- 2:10Speaker 1: Mexico may argue that the law enforcement exception does not
- 2:13Speaker 1: apply because DOJ is not proceeding with any Epstein-related prosecution
- 2:18Speaker 1: at this time. But that's flatly wrong. Then-Acting Attorney General
- 2:22Speaker 1: Todd Blanch told Senators that DOJ will indict and prosecute
- 2:26Speaker 1: out of the Epstein files if new information becomes available.
- 2:30Speaker 1: DOJ's willingness to potentially pursue further Epstein investigations further strengthens
- 2:36Speaker 1: its rationale that disclosure here would interfere with enforcement proceedings
- 2:40Speaker 1: or disclose investigative techniques. CFR 28 Section 16.26 B and 5.
- 2:48Speaker 1: New Mexico's TUI request also implicates other government privileges besides
- 2:52Speaker 1: the law enforcement work product and attorney-client privilege. For example,
- 2:56Speaker 1: the informant privilege allows a government to withhold from disclosure
- 3:00Speaker 1: the identity of persons who furnish information of violations of
- 3:03Speaker 1: law to officers charged with enforcement of that law. C.U.S. v.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Martínez states, CFR 1626B and 4, DDC, 2011. In considering
- 3:15Speaker 1: this privilege, courts balance the public interest, taking into consideration
- 3:19Speaker 1: the crime charged, the possible defenses, the possible significance of
- 3:23Speaker 1: the informer's testimony, and the other relevant factors. New Mexico
- 3:28Speaker 1: faces a heavy burden to establish that the identity of
- 3:31Speaker 1: an informant is necessary under that privilege. Here, the balance
- 3:35Speaker 1: favors DOJ. Public interest is best served by keeping personal
- 3:39Speaker 1: information redacted. Indeed, respecting victim privacy was one of the
- 3:43Speaker 1: essential goals of the EFTA, CEG EFTA Section 2C. The
- 3:50Speaker 1: cumulative force of the law enforcement work product and attorney-client
- 3:55Speaker 1: and informant privileges make clear that DOJ is required to
- 3:59Speaker 1: withhold materials New Mexico seeks. D. DOJ properly rejected New
- 4:04Speaker 1: Mexico's two-year request under 28 CFR Section 16.22C and Section 16.24c,
- 4:12Speaker 1: because the request was overbroad. DOJ's TUI regulation limit disclosure
- 4:18Speaker 1: to materials relevant to the underlying proceeding. 28 CFR, Section 1622c,
- 4:24Speaker 1: see also ID as Section 1624c, requiring responsible officials to
- 4:30Speaker 1: seek to limit the demand to information, which would not
- 4:32Speaker 1: be inconsistent with the consideration specified in 1626 of this part.
- 4:38Speaker 1: New Mexico does not even attempt to narrow its request
- 4:41Speaker 1: to relevant material. It seeks not only all millions of
- 4:44Speaker 1: pages of unredacted Epstein files, example 14 at 2 and 3,
- 4:50Speaker 1: only 0.6% of which appear to indicate activity in or
- 4:53Speaker 1: tied to New Mexico that warrants further investigation, idea 3,
- 4:58Speaker 1: but also any other material in DOJ's possession, courts within
- 5:04Speaker 1: the District of Columbia, have explained that similar requests for
- 5:07Speaker 1: information are overbroad because they seek evidence irrelevant to the
- 5:10Speaker 1: underlying claim. CEG Food Lion vs. United Food Workers International
- 5:15Speaker 1: Union AFL-CIO 103 F. 3D 1007 1013 DC Circuit 1997 Or
- 5:25Speaker 1: because the request is so broad as to be virtually incomprehensible.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Freedom Watch Incorporated vs. CIA 895 F.SUPP 2D-221, 228-29, DDC-2012.
- 5:38Speaker 1: New Mexico's request meets both criteria. It does not even
- 5:43Speaker 1: attempt to allege that all of the million pages in
- 5:45Speaker 1: the Epstein files are relevant to its investigation. It requests
- 5:50Speaker 1: for material outside the Epstein files, similarly begs the question
- 5:54Speaker 1: what materials would satisfy the request. There are over 3
- 5:58Speaker 1: million pages contained within the Epstein files, CEG example 1
- 6:02Speaker 1: at 3. New Mexico alleges the Epstein files include over 13,000
- 6:07Speaker 1: references to Zorro Ranch and 5,000 references to New Mexico
- 6:11Speaker 1: as locations where victims were trafficked, groomed, and assaulted. Assuming
- 6:15Speaker 1: no page in the Epstein files simultaneously references Zorro Ranch
- 6:20Speaker 1: or New Mexico and that no page references either twice,
- 6:23Speaker 1: the sum of these references totals 18,000. This figure represents 0.6%
- 6:29Speaker 1: of the approximately 3 million pages contained within the Epstein files. Thus,
- 6:35Speaker 1: like the courts in Food Lion and Freedom Watch, the
- 6:37Speaker 1: court should agree with the DOJ's determination that New Mexico's
- 6:41Speaker 1: sweeping request was overbroad and the disclosure was therefore unwarranted. E.
- 6:46Speaker 1: DOJ has not ignored factors in TUI regulation require it
- 6:49Speaker 1: to consider. New Mexico argues 28 CFR section 1626C requires
- 6:56Speaker 1: DOJ to consider five factors where disclosure is necessary to
- 6:59Speaker 1: pursue a civil or criminal prosecution. 1. The seriousness of
- 7:03Speaker 1: the crime. 2. The criminal record of the accused. 3.
- 7:07Speaker 1: The importance of relief sought. 4. The importance of legal
- 7:11Speaker 1: issues presented. And 5. Other matters brought to the attention
- 7:15Speaker 1: of the responsible official. This argument is incorrect. The TUI
- 7:20Speaker 1: regulations state that DOJ will consider the above five factors
- 7:23Speaker 1: only where disclosure would reveal a confidential source or informant,
- 7:28Speaker 1: law enforcement material, or trade secrets. 28 CFR Section 1626C,
- 7:31Speaker 1: citing 28 CFR Section 1626B-4 and 6, where disclosure would
- 7:39Speaker 1: violate a statute, rule, or procedure, specific regulation, or reveal
- 7:43Speaker 1: classified information, the TUI regulations prohibit disclosure without considering the
- 7:48Speaker 1: five factors. DOJ's response noted that New Mexico's TUI request
- 7:53Speaker 1: implicated Section 1626B-1 when it stated disclosure would violate the
- 7:58Speaker 1: Protective Orders and the Privacy Act. Thus, the TUI regulations
- 8:02Speaker 1: did not require DOJ to consider the five factors contained
- 8:06Speaker 1: in 1626C. The rationale behind Section 1626C carve-out is clear.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Notwithstanding the obvious seriousness of the crimes New Mexico seeks
- 8:15Speaker 1: to prosecute, or the importance of justice for Epstein victims,
- 8:19Speaker 1: a valid statute always prevails over conflicting regulation. DOJ's regulation
- 8:25Speaker 1: cannot justify disclosure which a statute could otherwise bar. See U.S.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Code 5, Section 706, 2A. C. In validating agency action which
- 8:34Speaker 1: is not in accordance with law or in excess statutory authority,
- 8:38Speaker 1: these principles leave no room for applying the Section 16.26C
- 8:43Speaker 1: factors when governing statute forbids disclosure. 3. Denying New Mexico's
- 8:49Speaker 1: TUI request is not unlawfully withheld or unreasonably delayed agency action.
- 8:54Speaker 1: New Mexico argues to the extent the court concludes that
- 8:57Speaker 1: Denying the two-year request was not final agency action as
- 9:00Speaker 1: defined by the APA, or if responsible officials have not
- 9:04Speaker 1: yet reviewed the two-year request, events so far constitute a
- 9:07Speaker 1: consummate failure to act or refusal to act. The court
- 9:11Speaker 1: should not reach this point for two reasons. First, DOJ
- 9:15Speaker 1: acted on New Mexico's two-year request when DNM sent its response.
- 9:20Speaker 1: DOJ has not withheld any action. Second, as explained above,
- 9:23Speaker 1: DOJ followed its internal regulations when denying New Mexico's TUI request,
- 9:28Speaker 1: and so it did not act unlawfully. Nevertheless, resolution of
- 9:32Speaker 1: a claim of unreasonable delay is ordinarily a complicated and
- 9:36Speaker 1: nuanced task requiring consideration of the particular facts and circumstances
- 9:41Speaker 1: before the court. Relevant factors include any statutory timetable or
- 9:46Speaker 1: other indication of the speed with which Congress expects the
- 9:50Speaker 1: agency to proceed. the nature and extent of the interest
- 9:53Speaker 1: prejudiced by delay, with particular concern for matters of human
- 9:57Speaker 1: health and welfare, and the effect of expeditions. delayed action
- 10:01Speaker 1: on agency activity of a competing or higher priority. Here,
- 10:06Speaker 1: there is no indication that Congress expects disclosure to New
- 10:09Speaker 1: Mexico at all. Precedent further underscores that delays significantly exceeding
- 10:14Speaker 1: DOJ's timeline have been deemed permissible. In Mashpee, for example,
- 10:18Speaker 1: the plaintiff had waited for agency action for five years,
- 10:21Speaker 1: and it was still only third in line. The court
- 10:24Speaker 1: noted that other parties have been waiting even longer for
- 10:27Speaker 1: a decision. DOJ's alleged delay, three months, is relatively modest
- 10:33Speaker 1: in comparison, especially considering the millions of pages contained within
- 10:37Speaker 1: the Epstein Files Act, and in any event DOJ has responded, thus,
- 10:42Speaker 1: any potential further review of New Mexico's TUI request would
- 10:45Speaker 1: not be actioned unreasonably withheld. Conclusion. For these reasons, the
- 10:50Speaker 1: court should grant DOJ's motion to dismiss or in the
- 10:53Speaker 1: alternative motion for a summary judgment. This document was dated
- 10:58Speaker 1: October 12th and it was signed by Richard Giles. All
- 11:02Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
- 11:05Speaker 1: in the description box.