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123: Sister Wives Rewind - Polygamist Date Nights (S4E2) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts,
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Delia here with my real tight homegirl and my daughter in law, so
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don't even try it. Don't try it. We are here today to talk
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about Sister Wives. We are in the process of doing a Sister Wives rewind.
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We are on season four and we've got our raccoon monocles. You are
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very very forendsiicly investigating the cracks in the foundation of this brown family polygamous bullshit.
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And Cody's eye colors and his eye colors green, gray, brown,
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blue, and then you notice that he's wearing contacts. Yeah, dude,
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he's wearing colored contacts, colored context. Yeah. God, he is so
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vague. Yeah, he's a loser. I was looking at the merits of
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his hair style in season four and it's just kind of that wavy blonde that
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he does. And I'm like, is that better though, than the top
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ramen, because it seems like it is. I feel like the top ramen
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looks better because it's curlier. I mean comparatively, they look bad either way
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because it's his hair. It's terrible. He should just fucking go bald already.
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But I feel like if I had to pick, really, I probably
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would pick top Ramen. You would pick funnier curly girls solution. He looks
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like Shirley Temple, like, I think that looks I think that's good.
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I'm thinking maybe he can't pull off the season four surfer waves to any morcus.
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He's like so severely balding it would look like a really bad calm over.
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And that's why they have got the like costuming and he's gone like he's
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got all these things he's got to do in order to have an illusion of
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hair. It's fantastic. It's great. Now, before we get into it,
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we do have to give you a disclaimer. Please had your wife and
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Thank you. Now, before we get into Sister IV Season four, episode
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two, we have to talk about something that's going on in the Welcome to
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Plaithville universe, which, by the way, I'm invested. Oh we are
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addictive. I'm obsessed. So it's so much better than Sisterwivee's low key because
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they're crazy and there's a lot of narcissists in this fucking show. Oh yeah,
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and they're younger and they're at the beginning of their journey. They haven't
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been married thirty years and are like trying to hide everything. They don't know
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how to hide everything. So you've got Ethan and Olivia, who are former
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fundies. Well he's sounds like he's a current fundale as well. They got
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married when they were very young, but they are now divorcing. We have
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Kim and Barry, who are the matriarch and the patriarch, and she's a
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drunk hoe and he's a robot who can't feel anything. We've got Lydia who's
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praying in a closet and doing other stuff in a closet, probably texting her
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boyfriend sex stuff in the closet. And we have Mariah who's morose and fully
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tattooed. And it's so good and they all sing it's terrible, and they're
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all bad, the worst music, and we just can't get enough of it.
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So anyway, Ethan and Olivia are divorcing, and Olivia is always up
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on Instagram sharing pictures. She's a photographer and I would say she's talented.
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Yes, she's also beautiful, gorgeous. And so now she is starting her
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single era and she's been posting a little bit, and I guess recently she
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made an interesting post to Beatrice take it Away. Okay, I saw this
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on Instagram, and I'm like, this is crazy because she's a former fundie,
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but she is the most progressive out of all of the Plaths. She's
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also very like liberal lgbtqias. Plus ally we love and so a lot of
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people are Olivia stans. They don't like Ethan Plath and so she posted this
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photo. We'll put it right here of her posing with vibrators. Yeah,
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I had to look like I was like, what is what is that?
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Uh? Huh? Is it a kitchen implement? Is she gardening? Now?
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What is that? No, it's a vibrator. I wouldn't know,
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And I'm not gonna read the whole post obviously because it's just an advertisement,
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because she's obviously getting sponsors for this way. She just said, I'm hooking
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you all up with the vibes okay, hashtag vibe check. And the only
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reason why this was interesting is because somebody commented and said, yeah, and
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this vibrator doesn't expect you to cook three meals a day, to which Olivia
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replied and said, and it actually makes me comeo. So she said that
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shit on ig outing Ethan as a bad lover, And of course we've spent
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a long time and I think in our last episode on Patreon we were even
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talking about where he's a good lover and we thought we he was, Well,
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he's kind of that broody kind of you never know what he's packing.
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Maybe he's got something down there, maybe he knows what to do with it.
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Yeah, but apparently he don't. I guess according to Olivia, right
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but I'm just like, is that necessary? It's not necessary. It is
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so punitive. Like I get you guys divorced, you resent him, whatever,
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but like you're already gonna write a book, you're and I know you're
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gonna slander him in the plast like you're a hundred per totally gonna spill some
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tea and it's gonna be like nuclear and it's gonna be crazy. So did
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you really have to do that? Like it's just to jab him a little
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bit, oh a little bit. That's like the worst thing you can say
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about a dude in terms of their ego. And don't you think there's probably
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a fuck ton he could say about you, Olivia, uh huh, and
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all the shit that you did in the four or five years that you were
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together and all the things that were embarrassing that you did. I mean,
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I'm sure that he could, but it's a matter of class. Now,
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I've been married nine, maybe ten hundred times at least, and I'm not
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out here out in people's penis size except to you, Yeah, when we're
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not recording or if it's on Patreon set. But I'm I'm not. I
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don't have a desire to hurt any of their feelings, no matter like who
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they were in my life. Like, I'm just not going to go that
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low. Yeah, I'm actually surprised that she said that, me too,
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And I'm like, it's not really a good look. But all of the
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comments, of course, are like, oh my god, yes, Queen,
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we love it because they hate Ethan. And I'm like, okay,
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I mean your opinions of Ethan aside, that's fine, but it's still it's
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not a fucking good look, especially if you're going to make a whole book
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where I know you're going to trash this whole family, yeah, and drag
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them to filth. I don't know. I felt bad about it me too.
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I don't think you need to do that. I think you can hill
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your booty ass we vibes and vibrators without having to drag a man who I
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think legitimately loved you with his whole heart. And yeah it didn't work out,
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and yeah, maybe it was Ethan who initiated the ultimate divorce, but
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rightfully so, and you were gonna do it anyway. Yeah, Like,
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why are you taking the low road, Olivia? Exactly? It just shows
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her age a bit like her immaturity because she's only like twenty five at this
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point, and she's mean, and she's been trying to hide her mean streak
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on the show the entire time. But I've been seeing it. I've been
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sussing out. I'm an intuitive, fake psychic. I saw it clearly.
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And now she's going to start posting like that. Yep. And some of
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y'all want to come at us and say that our opinions of her are,
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you know, unwarranted, but we've watched this whole fucking series multiple times,
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multiple times. Yes, we've started from the beginning. We've been seeing it
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from the beginning. Y'all. Don't call the raccoon monocle watching little thing.
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Yep. And we're fair sometimes we give her credit. Everybody can get it
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in that show. Yes, everybody's got something wrong with them and we talk
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about it. But like, Olivia has so much wrong with her, and
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this is like the latest thing she's done that is super trashy and shitty,
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super lame, and so we're gonna call it out because that's what we do.
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Yeah, all right, moving on, now, let's get into Sister
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Wives season four, episode two. In our Sister Wives rewind and this one's
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entitled Polygamist Date Nights, And I guess the whole premise of this episode is
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that Cody and the producers has decided to manufacture for separate dates for each of
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the wives. Because we all know Cody's not out here giving a shit like
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that. He only cares about Robin and King Solomon and the kingdom that he's
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building with her. But we're supposed to believe that he's super excited to take
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his wives out for their separate dates. So is there anything like that you
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can offer as a takeaway, like something that struck you in this episode?
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I mean, I guess that you can totally tell Cody's done with all of
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these like the three OG's, Like I don't think he's really into any of
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their dates, Like I think they're totally out of obligation and for the producers
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and for the show. And I'm almost wondering if like Robin kind of put
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him up to it too, and was like, oh, maybe she should
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do this for Christy, maybe you should do that for Mary. Like I
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have a hard time believing that Cody, with how absent of a husband he
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is and how he just doesn't actually care about any of the Wise. I
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have a hard time believing that he came up with these ideas himself. It
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had to have either been the producers and or Robin, or like a just
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a brainstorming session that the family was doing to try and manufacture content that we
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might want to watch that would show their polygamist family in a good light.
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My major takeaway is actually the beginning of the episode, and so we can
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start there, which is when Cody rolls up in this Rose Gold convertible Nissan
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something or other vehicle, super proud because he's driving another car that he thinks
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shows him to be a wealthy and affluent man. And we've got Robin saying
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something like, yeah, they've been working for a marketing company and Cody's been
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doing so well that they gave him a car as a bonus. I immediately
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paused it. You Google and I just I think I put Rose Gold Nissan
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Season four marketing company, Cody Brown and boom Reddit. Oh my god.
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Yeah, two years ago there was a post on Reddit. Somebody saw it
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and they're like, what is this car? And the consensus is, of
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course that Cody and also the other wives at the time, So this is
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twenty twelve. I want to say, we're shilling an MLM product, this
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one called liv Live okay, And somebody commented and said that MLM stands for
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Mormons losing money. And I can't unhear it because it's true. Yeah,
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and you actually see them, I think drinking this green drink, which is
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what this live product is. I'll have to pay attention for that next time.
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And so with MLMs and getting a bonus of a car, what typically
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happens is that they lease a car and you are given the opportunity to drive
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it. However, if the next month you don't sell at the same level,
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or you don't move the product like you should, then you have to
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pay the lease on it. Oh shit, it's not like they give you
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a car. Yeah, free and clear, and it's yours for the rest
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of your life, like you have to continue to perform at a specific level
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or else. Not only do you have all the inventory that you've purchased for
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Lives Green Drink, you also have a new lease note on your dumb rose
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gold Nissan whatever that is. Oh my god, maybe that's why we don't
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see this car ever. Again, they are so dumb. They're really dumb.
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I just thought it was stupid that he even got like a car like
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that. I'm like, you have twenty thousand kids, Yeah, just get
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a fucking SUV or something like John and eight plus Kate with some huge fucking
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FBI man driving around all their kids and their huge family. Like, why
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are you getting a little convertible so that you can look rich? Oh?
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Yeah, that you can look classy, because that doesn't look glassy to me.
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Listen, I have been on the spectrum of wealth my entire life.
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I was born into this world as poor as you can be. We could
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tell stories about that. I'm not going to do it, but poor.
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No running water, no food, no electricity, I'm talking poor. Yeah.
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And then I lived a really good life with my second fourth husband,
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who was a litigator, and they made a lot of money. He was
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a man of means, let's just say. And so I understand the life
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from that perspective as well. So I know what these people are doing.
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Yeah, they're thinking. Cody's thinking, I'm going to show these people who
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are watching me on tee I'm rich. Oh yeah, I'm working. Yes,
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this is my job. Look in my car and I'm like, it's
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a scam. Yeah, it's a scam. That's all they do are scam.
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I'm embarrassed for them. Yeah, it's it's really fucking cringey. It's
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like the same thing with their houses too, Like they're building all these houses
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on this could a sac. I'm like, these are huge fucking houses,
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Like do you really need four of them that you look all nice? And
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have Mary get the fucking wet bar and like all these fancy little she needs
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her wet bar for the MLM presentations that she ultimately does. That's literally how
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she justifies it. I can't these the financial decisions this family made. I
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think the Vegas cul de Sac was probably one of the best decisions that they
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made at the time that they sold, if they would have held instead.
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And then we go into fucking COVID and now we're in twenty twenty four when
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you can't get it. You can't get a house at a reasonable price.
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These are luxury builds, luxury Those people trash those homes, but they would
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have been able to sell. I think it a huge profit. But they're
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so dumb. Yeah, so they leave at the worst possible time, where
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it takes a long time to move the homes to sell the homes and they
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don't make the profit that they could. No, and then they buy four
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plots of land that they do nothing with, syphilitic prairie dog gonner animal tainted
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land. Then he's like, I haunted land, haunted prairie dog land.
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And he doesn't want the developer to run utilities to the land. He's like,
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nah, I got my bros, I'll find it cheaper. He's trying
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to scam me. Never brings utilities to the land, and it's gonna cost
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you an army. It's gonna cost you a lot of money. Yeah,
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which maybe it wouldn't be so bad if you had a lot of money.
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Well, he's got all those investments, duh, and the Dickenzian Village and
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all of the artwork. Sell the Dickensian village. Maybe if they were poor
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enough, they were like babies taking under that Dickensian village and all those paintings
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and all of the supplements in the kitchen. And she's divorcing his ass and
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then she'll declare bankruptcy, honey, with all of her shit. Yep.
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Yeah, I'm just like, I'm like, why can't you guys get an
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actual job? I think Janelle obviously she was a bookkeeper when they were in
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Utah. I think she's doing real estate at this time in twenty twelve in
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Las Vegas. But like, why aren't the rest of you working? Gu
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because they are on TLC right and with MS. Yeah, this is what
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they do, yes, scams. I just thought it was hilarious. And
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then they proceed to use the same car for like every date. I was
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like, oh, God, yiite because it's so romantic. Is look the
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roof can come down. Look at me, I've got a sports car.
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Like that's Cody and he's so hot with his four incher dick, with his
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hair, his didn't flap it in the wind. God, it's so good.
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I can't get it up of it, Beadre, It's pretty great.
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All right. After that, we start this episode going on the various and
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sundry dates, beginning with Mary. Now, apparently when they were first together
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some odd twenty six years ago or twenty two years ago, Cody promised her
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that he would take her skiing, And of course Cody's promises ain't worth shit.
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Nope, And so now it's twenty two years later and he's like,
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finally because the producers are making me manufacture content. I will take you skiing
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because I'm so romantic. I remembered this time that I told you twenty years
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ago that I would take you and I never did. Yes, No,
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We're going to do it now now I'm the best husband ever. And Mary
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is so excited. Of course she wants she's been wanting to ski. I
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thought that was wholesome. She just wants a man who will want to be
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with her and spend some time with her doing something that she likes. And
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so let's get to the skiing part. Yes, because let me ask you,
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I've never skied me neither. I don't know anything about it. Yeah,
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but is there a reason do you think that Cody had the ski sticks
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as somebody who skied before, and Mary did not have ski sticks? I
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have no idea. Maybe he took him from her because she was trying.
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She was just like, but you need skiers of the world, raccoon skiers
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of the world. Don't you need the sticks to help balance you and maybe
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to help you stop if you need to stop? And here's Cody with these
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two sticks, screaming at her, pushing her. Really put your knees in
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it's worth this way, just yelling at her like a terrible ski instructor,
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which he even acknowledges, and she doesn't listen to anything that he says,
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absolutely none and doesn't have ski sticks, and so she's just wiping out over
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and over and over again, and ultimately she fucking rips her mcl yeah.
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After he's like pushing her down the hill literally and she can't. She can't
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fucking stop, doesn't know how to stop, and he's like, just stop.
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She's like, I don't know how. I'm like, well, first
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of all, Mary, it's not like gets rocket science. You just go
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to the side how you do or bring your knees in a little bit so
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the skis go in. I mean, she doesn't listen at all to his
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instruction and or that handsome EMT's instruction he was cute on how to stop.
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She doesn't listen, Nope, and then she fucking dips it because she's going
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so fast down the hill and she's uncontrolled, she doesn't have the fucking ski
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sticks. She falls just like I heard a pop yep and my knee and
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then Cody's like, oh no, And then they get the EMT out there,
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who's look, that's a big deal. And it was though. Yeah,
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I mean she tore him and she tore it or she sprained it,
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I don't know, but she's going to be laid up for six to eight
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weeks. But as they're in the lodge by the fireplace, they start reminiscing
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about their wedding and we see the same pictures over and over again. I
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mean, the same pictures we saw on season eighteen Honey in season seventeen sixteen
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fifty. This is a dire same pictures. I think that's because that's all
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they have. They have no other pictures. I think they've got like three
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pictures per wife except for Robin. And they talked about their courtship, which
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was minimal. I guess he proposed to her on a Christmas Eve. He
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kissed her for the first time on New Year's Eve, which sounds a little
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ass backward to me, a little bit. And then they got married four
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months later, and none of it was romantic really at all, because they
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were both virgins, both fundamentalist Mormons, so they're horny as fuck and they
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just want to get married quickly because that's pretty common, right. And then
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they get married and I are stuck together for life. But this is who
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you have, unfortunate. I hope you enjoy it. There was footage though
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that I hadn't seen at all, and that was of Cody singing to her
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at their wedding. He was singing some song by bread Yeah, which I
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can't remember what it is because I never listened to bread Yeah, Like who
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listens and these things? Maybe you do. But it was kind of romantic,
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and I thought that he had a pretty good voice. He thoughts,
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I'm just trying to fight, yeah, Homeline, but you're such a sad
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silver lining. He was singing to his bride and she was sitting in one
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of those metal fold out chairs. I thought it was sweet. I mean,
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it was kind of hole something. And then he sang to her on
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the couch because she's like, you haven't sang that to me in a long
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time. Have you ever had a lover sing to you? Well, yeah,
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your wife. She's hating a beautiful voice. She's my daughter, voice
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of an angel. She has a beautiful fucking voice. Yes, why doesn't
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she sing more? Because she hates karaoke and she's always been told to sing
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yeah constantly. Nobody's told her to sing she had great voices. Everybody in
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her life no sing oh my God, my God, Christmas. She would
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sing ave Maria beautiful up in front of the whole family. She had a
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great voice. I told her when we started dating, like all I've wanted
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is to sing a duet with somebody. And she's like, yeah, I'm
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never gonna do never. Never. That's sad. Now. Her father sang
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to me once we were at a retreat, not a retreat, but a
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reunion. Yeah you know how they do, Yeah, big old reunions every
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other year. And we were at the bar and he sang that Elton song,
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Elton John song called your song. That's so he's a terrible voice,
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really, yes, but there's something about a man who has a terrible voice
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who's willing to stand up in front of a full bar and sing you your
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song by Elton Fucking cute, dude. That's the best song too. It's
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such a good such a I saw that song now married to a whole other
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man and later and I'm just like, oh my god, I do remember
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when he sang that to mad is really sweet actually, And then my husband
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he can't sing for shit, you know. He sings like a robot in
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a monotone. He did sing Brandy one time at the karaoke he actually sing
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it, or did he sing Brandy, You're a fun girl, What a
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good wife you would be. I was like that, But I'm like,
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that's sweet too. I mean it's not the same. It's the thought that
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when Cody was singing to Mary, I was I had a little bit I
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was feeling something really in your parts. No, god, no, he's
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so inattractive to me, Oh for sure. Yeah. No, I felt
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a little twinge of love, like it probably did exist at one point for
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Mary and him, And it's sad to watch it back now knowing the state
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of their relationship and how he just literally could care less if she lives or
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dies. But like him singing, he literally I don't want to be a
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part of your life at all. Go FuG somebody else. I don't care.
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So it's just like it was cute, but ad and cringey because he
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was out of tune. Well, but I mean, so is my third
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or fourth or fiefth husband. But he's still sweet. After that, we
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go on to Janelle and we start this date day with Janelle trying to wrangle
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all her kids honey, well kind of. It's logan. Well, there's
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Gabe and Garrison and they're going at it. I guess in the last episode,
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if you recall, I guess Gabe punched Garrison right in the fucking face
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and Garrison got a bloody nose. Sounds like he deserved it. So they're
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still fighting. Yeah, Janelle's trying to tell him to separate and break up.
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Gabe is in charge of waking up little Savannah, trying to drag her
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off of the bed. He's taking her baby doll and he's like, if
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you don't wake up, I'm drowning your baby doll. And he does,
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and he does, and the toilet I know, but Janelle's not there,
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nobody's there, No, no their children. So he does it, and
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yeah, he gets away with it. Of course, that's what you do
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in a big fucking family. I'm sure a lot of these things go unnoticed.
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Look at the fucking duggers. Oh, I never watched that. That
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shit's dark, is it? Yeah? Did they do bad things to each
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other? Yes, they did bad things. You know I heard about that.
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Yes, yeah, but I mean yeah, because they had nineteen thousand
23:14
children and Jim, Bob and Michelle are just like, we love Southern Baptist.
23:19
Is it covered much the same in much the same way as Sister Wives
23:22
is covered? Or John and A plus Kate. Is it like that but
23:26
like dark undertones? Yeah, like just they're putting on a facade for everybody,
23:30
like we're really happy Southern or not Southern Baptists or IBLP. We're happy
23:34
IBLP religious family and we love God and we're but you have all that shit
23:41
underneath. And they never paid their kids. Oh we learn they none of
23:45
them ever got any money despite all the time they were spending on TV.
23:49
TLC didn't pay for them. They didn't make any accommodations for them, and
23:52
then the duggars just took all the money. Yeah. And Jim Bob's like
23:55
Cody, like all about his image running for public office and politics and all
23:59
that shit. Is hers a pedo yep? Yikes. So Cody and Janelle
24:03
their ideal date is to go on a hike, which is sweet. It
24:07
is sweet. And Janelle loves to be outdoors, she loves to camp,
24:11
She loves her some cows and some nature. She needs a cowboy in her
24:17
life. This is what I think, totally. And so they go somewhere
24:19
in Las Vegas, and she's remarking how she can now do these types of
24:25
things with Cody because she's lost ten pounds since she was very unfairly weighed on
24:30
the national stage in front of in front of everybody and made to feel humiliated
24:34
in shame. But she's lost ten pounds and she's lost eighteen inches, which
24:40
is crazy. She feels really good going on this hike. Yeah. I
24:42
was like really happy for her, although I just felt like there was a
24:45
little weirdness with Cody because she's saying all these things like I'm really proud of
24:49
myself, and he's not saying anything really like, and she's like, you
24:53
know, the last time we went on a hike, I think it was
24:56
in somewhere in Arizona, I can't remember, uti something red Rocks. She
25:00
couldn't do all of the hikes because she was out of shape and she couldn't
25:04
do some of the difficult ones, and so she's like, I'm really happy
25:07
that I can do more hikes now, and Cody's just like silent the whole
25:11
time, and I'm just kind of thinking, like, does he body shame
25:14
her? Does he body shame the rest of these wives, because like we
25:17
hear Robins say comments of like, oh, yeah, he loves women with
25:21
stretch marks, he likes curvy women, And I'm just wondering, Yeah,
25:26
I know they talk about how they had their renaissance in Las Vegas. Yeah,
25:29
but I feel like he was only doing that because Janelle had the pocketbook
25:33
and she was making money. I don't feel like he actually cared. I
25:37
don't know. I just I watched back on these older seasons and I'm like,
25:41
did was all of this a lie? Like? Were you telling the
25:44
truth at all? Coch I don't know, because when they're on the couch
25:47
talking about the date that they went on, they both say that they are
25:49
more in love now than they were in the beginning, and it does sound
25:53
like it was difficult in the beginning of the relationship, but that they're more
25:56
in love now. And Janelle is like, I see us getting older,
26:02
our kids leave, we've got grandkids, and we just continue to connect and
26:07
grow closer until the day we die. And I'm like, Okay, what's
26:11
that ten years from now age like you're gonna be like I never want to
26:14
see him again. Ever. I don't feel the need to ever interact with
26:17
him again. And I don't even want to have another man ever again because
26:19
he ruined my whole experience. Right, hmm, that's interesting. Do you
26:23
think she'd make a good lel I don't know. I don't know if she
26:26
would eat. I think she would want a big, strapping cowboy dude.
26:30
Yeah. I think she wants like a real man, you know, yes,
26:33
after real man, Yes, with a big old belt buckle aka dick
26:37
and just you know, wranglers. And I don't think she's ever lived in
26:41
this way. No, she's never experienced such a thing, and I want
26:45
that for her to the honey I have y you got a man of wranglers.
26:52
He's a tsh. Your father in law's good with a laugh. Disgusting.
27:02
I don't want to hear I have to hear about butt stuff with them?
27:04
What now, hand stuff a butt stuff? Yeah? And I feel
27:07
like one of the first times you guys ever met me, you guys were
27:11
talking about butt stuff. I swear to god, she has no fucking chill.
27:15
And then you were asking me if me and your daughter were scissoring.
27:21
Well, I wonder that all the time. I know, I still ask
27:22
you that all the time. The butt stuff must have been a hazing thing,
27:26
though I think it was. I have to get you used to our
27:27
family. Oh Lord. Moving on now to Christine and Cody. Now,
27:33
Cody straight up hates Christine. Oh yeah, I'm like, let me plan
27:37
two dates where we don't have to talk and I can just run away from
27:41
you and or shoot you with this gun which is a paintball, but I
27:45
pretend it's an actual gun. But he says paintball was Christine's idea. Uh
27:48
huh, And maybe it was, And I think she feels the same way.
27:53
I don't. I'm just like, this is like the most unromantic,
27:56
totally date, you know what I mean. Like paintball's fun, I guess,
28:00
but like it's only fun if you like go to dinner afterwards and you're
28:03
like cuddling in a booze like you are with Robin and your guys's date,
28:07
but you go on a helicopter after that, which means you're not talking because
28:11
you can't hear shit in a helicopter. So he doesn't have to And he
28:15
doesn't look at her, no, like unless he's going to shoot her.
28:18
He does not look at her. He doesn't want to talk to her.
28:22
He says on the couch that their relationship is kind of built on the lightness
28:26
in life and like having fun, or that it has been. However,
28:32
the last couple of years have been pretty difficult. That's covering the time that
28:37
he met and started to bone Robin outside of the confines of marriage. Yeah,
28:41
so Christine's still upset about that, of course, but he's hopeful that
28:45
Christine and he can get back on track, which they never will. And
28:48
he's not hopeful. He's like, I'm just needing to do things to appease
28:52
you, so you shut the fuck up and you stop being jealous. He's
28:56
literally creating content, that's all he's doing. And he can't leave her out
28:59
even though he hates her, because it sounds like whenever Cody goes over to
29:03
Christine's house, she's not happy. And we have this scene where because Mary
29:08
has sprained and or torn her MCL, she's laid up, she's in her
29:14
bed, and so Christine goes round to her house and checks on her,
29:18
and then they start to have a conversation about Cody. And this was wild
29:23
to me, Yeah, because Christine starts sharing how you know Cody and her
29:30
haven't taken family pictures together. They're still struggling that she doesn't understand, like
29:37
when is he going to realize that he needs to do more, he needs
29:40
to acknowledge what's going on. Why is it always me that has to make
29:44
the changes? And Mary is lying there saying, yeah, it's you.
29:48
Yeah, you just need to stop having problems and you just need to stop
29:52
caring, and you need to stop trying to get him to admit he's wrong,
29:56
because that may or may not ever happen, right, So just pretend
29:59
like you're happy. The only thing you can change is yourself. And that's
30:03
true from like a meta perspective, like orget it, but you are in
30:07
a partnership with somebody who should take responsibility for their share of what's going on
30:11
instead partnership, and Mary even acknowledges like you're just not going to get that
30:15
from him. Sometimes he apologizes, but I mean it takes a long time,
30:21
a long time, and I've just grown used to it. And that's
30:23
what you should do too. Just like whenever he comes over, make it
30:27
the best experience for him so he feels happy and y'all have fun and then
30:33
when he's not there, work on your shit and Christine's like, I can't
30:37
just do that, though, Like I try my hardest to be happy when
30:40
he's there, but I can't ignore all of our problems, which are just
30:44
becoming a giant fucking mountain now that I can't just sweep under the rug.
30:48
And Mary's just like, yeah, it doesn't matter, right. I was
30:55
really taken aback by how Mary was lowke he blaming her and putting all of
31:02
the responsibility on Christine for being happy. Yeah, And Christine's like, so,
31:07
I'm just supposed to fake happiness. I'm just supposed to pretend everything's okay.
31:11
And Mary's like, no, I don't think you should do that.
31:15
But at the same time, he's not going to ever come around, and
31:18
you're annoying. I really think Mary's annoyed as fucked by her totally. I
31:22
also got this sense that Cody speaks to Mary and probably to Robin, and
31:26
we all know Cody was also speaking to Janelle about his situation with Christine,
31:32
So it felt to me like Mary was going into that conversation already having judged
31:37
Christine for being the problem. Granted, Christine's kind of a problem. Sometimes
31:41
she's annoying, She's pretty needy, But then again, this is who she
31:45
fell in love with when she was nineteen years old. This is the only
31:48
man she's ever been with. She wants a fuller relationship with him, and
31:52
he's just not giving that to her because, as we all know, in
31:56
twenty twelve, he's fucking sprung and be so over Robin. And I think
32:01
it was in her talking head. She even talks about it, like,
32:05
you know, I felt like he was balancing the three of us really well
32:07
when it was just me, Mary and Janelle. But now that there's four
32:10
of us, he's not balancing it. And we all been seeing it obviously,
32:15
like it's clear as day that that's happening. I think Mary knows that
32:19
Janelle knows that too. At this time. I think Mary's perspective here in
32:22
this conversation with Christine is like, since I've had to deal with it,
32:27
then you can deal with it. So just quit your bitching like it's not
32:29
that big of a deal. Beca look at the mad can handle it.
32:31
Yeah, focus on something else outside of your relationship and how he's never going
32:36
to change. So look at the fucking mountain and just be happy, bitch,
32:38
Just be grateful. I'm like, okay, yeah, be grateful,
32:42
be happy for the times you have. But Christine doesn't even have that.
32:45
That's the problem. He doesn't have any friends, no, because you know,
32:47
Janelle doesn't talk. Robin don't like her at all. Mary's superior in
32:52
this conversation. She's like, why don't you just do what I do because
32:54
it works for me? And Christine's like, but does it? Because last
32:59
year he didn't celebrate your birthday with you, he didn't give you anything for
33:02
your anniversary, and are you really happy? Because it doesn't look like that
33:07
to me, And then they cut to Mary's face and it looks like she
33:09
actually said something that they edited out, like she was upset. Yeah,
33:14
and then she says, because the camera's on her, well, I mean,
33:16
yeah, we had a lot going on in the family, so I
33:21
didn't really get a birthday or an anniversary, and I hope I will in
33:24
the future. But by now, also he's melted down her ring which we
33:30
learned in season eighteen, Yeah, and says she's never gonna have a claim
33:34
over me again. So I'm just like, what the fuck is going on?
33:37
Before Christine even brings up Cody's inability to manage and balance the marriages.
33:44
She tells Mary, it's the courtship with Robin. Yeah, And Mary says,
33:47
you're still bothered by that, and she said, yeah, I'm really
33:51
bothered by the courtship with Robin, and then they cut to her talking about
33:55
the assimilation of Robin into the family. But I'm like, go back to
33:59
the court yet, go back to what's really bothering you, Christine, which
34:02
is the fact that he dated this woman, kissed her before marriage. We
34:07
all know, because we've got monocles where raccoons, yep, that he was
34:09
fucking her totally on his weekends out at Robin's place. Christine knows it.
34:16
And so that's still bothering her. And has Cody made amends for that.
34:22
Absolutely not. He probably has told all of the wives. The reason why
34:24
that was okay was because Robin lived in Saint George, so of course he
34:29
had to do overnight trips. It's not fair for him to make a four
34:31
hour trip there and then a four hour trip back just to see her for
34:34
two hours. Like he was totally saying these things, manipulating all of these
34:37
women into being okay with that fucked up corpship of him. Essentially cheating on
34:42
all three of them really, because you're not supposed to do that in this
34:45
fundamentalist religion and have sex and kiss each other before marriage. And then he's
34:49
telling all of this shit to Mary that Mary is throwing up to Christine as
34:53
well, like oh, just like, don't bring up problems with me because
34:57
I can't handle that and maybe I'll come to you eventually, right or like
35:01
he's probably also saying things to Christine like maybe if you brought them up like
35:05
more gentlely. He says that when we get to Robin, yeah, that's
35:08
a jig, yeah, which I think is just bullshit. I think it's
35:12
total bullshit because I think Christine probably has tried to be gentle about it,
35:17
and even that doesn't work because he lied because he lied, because I think
35:22
he fucked Robin and he's not admitting it. And Christine knows it because she's
35:25
in aries and she's sussing that shit out. Mary knows it, but she's
35:29
just capitulating energetically. She's like, well, what, I'm not going anywhere,
35:31
And Janelle is just like, leave me alone. I got all these
35:34
kids that don't want to talk to you. I'm working, I'm trying to
35:37
figure out how we're going to pay all these fucking mortgage. What I'm concerned
35:38
about it I don't care if you fucked her early or kissed her early when
35:43
Kstine had to watch season one when he actually leaves her in the hospital room
35:47
as she's giving birth to truly to go run over to Robin's house and give
35:52
her a smoochy, give her a smooch. So Christine's hurt. Yeah,
35:57
And I feel bad that she doesn't have a friend, She doesn't anybody nobody
36:00
to like validate her feelings at all. She's just being told she's too much,
36:04
she's being dramatic, she should stop feeling all of these things, and
36:07
that's shitty. And like, you know, to your comment earlier about her
36:10
being needy, I was thinking, like, is she really that needy if
36:14
she's just asking for her husband to care about her, like not really,
36:17
No, I don't think she's being out of like out of bounce needy,
36:22
like being so annoying and just demanding all of his time. Like she's just
36:24
asking for you to balance that a little bit. Yeah. But when you
36:28
withhold and somebody really wants to connect, your withholding causes them to want to
36:32
connect even more so they're chasing you now true, and so in that attempt
36:37
to connect, they become obnoxious. Yeah, they become imbalanced. I can
36:40
see Christine being super deeply needy and desirous of that connection with Cody that she
36:49
sees him have so easily with Robin, and I just feel like we're on
36:52
a journey of perpetual hurt until the time that she tells him across the Mormon
36:59
tape, the office table in her house and flag staff, I don't want
37:02
to be married to you. There's no way that we can go on.
37:07
We're done. It's just kind of interesting how she brings up the courtship and
37:10
then it's edited in and she changes her story and it's like, no,
37:15
it's just because I was the third wife and I wanted to be the third
37:16
wife, and now it's about him balancing his time. Maybe it was because
37:21
she didn't want to come off like she was attacking Robin, because Robin's taking
37:24
everything fucking personally. Anything anybody does in this family, she takes it personally,
37:30
So she didn't want to cause any problems. Well, she's already been
37:34
chastened for causing problems and to Cody's way of thinking, singling out Robin.
37:39
So she's already feeling bad for having natural feelings yep, and trying to resolve
37:45
them with somebody that she thought loved her. This is really sad, and
37:47
I'm like, Mary, you could have done so much better in that moment.
37:52
She's brainwashed though, too. She's brainwashed by this religion. She's brainwashed
37:54
by Cody, She's manipulated by the whole situation. She's been the most loyal
37:59
after all of the shit, after him not fucking her for the last ten
38:02
years, and she's still with him, right, and she's even introducing him
38:07
to his new chippy Robin exactly. But I just hate how she's legitimately dumb.
38:13
She doesn't sound smart. She's trying to give counseling advice on a situation
38:16
where she's already in a terrible cycle in her own marriage. I'm like,
38:20
just can't you just commiserate with Christine and be a friend. She's like,
38:23
yeah, I get it. Like I've had my own shit with Cody.
38:27
It gets really difficult, especially when he's over here for one night out of
38:30
four, which, as we know, it's less than that that she actually
38:35
gets. But she can't even be a friend to Christine. I just feel
38:37
really bad. Yeah, I feel bad too, super sad. Okay,
38:40
moving on, we get finally to Robin's date with Cody. We start the
38:46
day all of her kids are sick. Mattie's coming over that night to babysit,
38:51
because of course we're parentifying the eldest children. They're taking care of all
38:54
of the kids. And to that point, when we were at Christine's,
38:59
she talking about all the girls taking Cody to the daddy daughter dance for Valentines.
39:06
But Gwendolen asked Logan, Oh shit, Why do you think she asked
39:09
him then? Because Logan raised her? Because Logan, what literally, Logan
39:15
is her bad figure? Yeah? Yeah, And I think Gwendolen also says
39:17
that current day You're of our Lord on her Patreon that she relied on her
39:22
older siblings much more than she did on her mother and her father. So
39:27
I thought that was pretty telling. When she's like, yeah, he's taking
39:29
me to my dance and here comes Logan seventeen years old and he's given her
39:35
hugs and he's going to take her to the dance. I didn't even catch
39:37
that. That was such a non sequitor thing. But now I'm kind of
39:39
wondering if like little actions like that over the years are what Cody perceives to
39:45
be, like Christine turning the kids away from him, Like, oh,
39:47
why couldn't I have gone to that daddy daughter dance? Probably because you didn't
39:51
want to because you're at Robin's house, right, But you know what I'm
39:53
saying, Maybe he uses all of those little moments like, oh, Christine
39:58
was talking shit about me to Gwendolyn. That's why she asked logan. Okay,
40:01
So Robin and Cody decide to go to some whatever fonduo restaurant. Hello,
40:07
booty, looked a little booty, but they seemed so in love.
40:09
They take King Solomon, who's like three months old at this time. He
40:14
was sitting there as they're making their little fond do and eating it and reminiscing
40:19
about how they met, and they are so in love they are gazing it
40:23
deeply into each other's eyes. Robin tells us the story of how they first
40:29
met, which was when she was dancing at the church break dancing break dancing
40:32
pussy in her diesel gen Oh my god, just shaking that non ass are
40:37
shaking that non ass yes, Sney, and Cody was looking at her across
40:42
the room. And then it was Mary who says to Cody, she's cute.
40:45
Why don't you ask her to dance? But Cody was like, she's
40:47
a divorcee, she's used up you, dick. But his father in Heaven,
40:53
uh huh placed upon his heart and his dick a conviction to love this
41:00
woman and her children. Okay, this woman need love in her pants.
41:04
Her children need to be taken care of, and I'm going to answer my
41:07
father's call and I'm going to take care of them. And so they talk
41:10
about their relationship in these glowing terms, and it is clear that they are
41:15
one out of everybody and all of their dates, they are so connected and
41:20
they are so in love. He says a couple of things that I found
41:22
interesting, which is that the reason he decided to be with Robin was this
41:29
buzzing kind of vibe connection, energy always electric, which I think that's great
41:37
if you weren't being so duplicitous about it. And also another thing that he
41:42
says is that he likes Robin because she brings her concerns to him gently,
41:50
And I thought, what does that mean? What does that mean, Like,
41:52
I mean, maybe she's being really sweet about it, but honestly,
41:57
all that means is that he loves her and respects her. And so if
42:00
she does come to him with problems or does come to him with like,
42:04
hey, babe, I need you to do X y Z for me or
42:07
I need more time with you, He's gonna listen to it. That's what
42:09
I think. Like, I don't think he's respecting the three og wives because
42:13
he's really just preoccupied with Robin. Like it's so obvious, like he's so
42:17
in love with Robin. And that's fine, that's great. I'm glad you
42:20
guys found each other whatever. I'm sure you guys have bomb sex. I
42:25
think they do. I think they're like kinky for them as fuck. I'm
42:30
sure they love. I think it's passionate. You think she takes it in
42:32
the butt? Yeah? Probably? Really? Yeah, I think they do
42:35
sixty nine because there's a reference. You've seen that on Reddit, right,
42:39
Yes, I'm sure we'll get to it. I don't know what season that's
42:43
it, but she's probably stroking the column of his dick all the time.
42:47
The column of his dick, by the way, as she's stroking if you
42:52
could please get me this isn't that and pay off my debts and my victorious
42:55
secret greit card, honey, please. And the way that she approaches him
43:00
is what he values the most. But I think it wasn't so much necessarily
43:04
about Robin as it was a comment probably against Christine totally and the way that
43:08
she's handling her time with Cody and what that experience is like for him when
43:13
he's with Christine, which it's just so crazy, dude. Their marriage sucks.
43:19
Yeah, I mean all three of the OG marriages suck. I think
43:22
the only one that's not sucking right now is him and Janelle. Okay,
43:27
but I mean that sucks too because Janelle just doesn't care. She's checked out.
43:30
Yeah yeah, I just like, go, wow, it's really crazy
43:32
to see. But like they're in the booth at the fondue place, dipping
43:37
it in cheese and chocolate and whatever and just looking into each other's eyes,
43:40
like talking about when he proposed with the string ring and she got them right
43:45
there in her person, like I've got this string ring, I've got your
43:47
actual ring. I am so in love with you, and I'm not gonna
43:52
hate on that because I think she does ye, And I think Cody really
43:54
loves her too. This is the genesis of their soulmate connect, which begins
44:00
to outshine and co opt all of the other relationships so that there is nobody
44:06
else for him but her. Yeah, he's got eyes only for her.
44:09
Kind of see it. And it's sad. It is sad, all right.
44:13
So thus ends the date and this episode ends with a birthday celebration.
44:17
Yeah, joint birthday yeah for Mary and Day Yeah, which is kind of
44:22
cute. I didn't know that he shared the same birthday. And I'm wondering
44:27
in the year prior when she didn't get to have her birthday, did date
44:30
and get to have his birthday? Probably? Yes? The answer, of
44:32
course is yes, So you had enough money for that, right, but
44:36
not enough money for Mary apparently, or the anniversary day. And Cody does
44:40
admit that because he says because again Christine references this when she's having her sit
44:45
down with Mary. She's like, it doesn't look like you're happy to me,
44:47
like he ignored your birthday and your anniversary. And so then Cody makes
44:51
it a point on camera to say, probably in response to that that is
44:54
true that the previous year he wasn't able to do anything for her birthday or
44:59
her anniversary due to time and money. I think that's bullshit. I wonder
45:05
because the year previous to this they would have been in Lehigh and the process
45:08
of packing up and leaving, right. Yeah, And I mean I could
45:10
totally understand, like a birthday thing like that shit happens because her birthday's in
45:15
January, and I think it's at the beginning of January. I get it.
45:17
But the anniversary, I'm pretty sure they got married in like March or
45:21
April. Yeah, Like you could have done something and it doesn't have to
45:23
be fucking expensive, Like you could have gotten a card from the Dollar store
45:28
and some flowers, Like it's not that big of a deal, right,
45:30
But you didn't even do that. Yep, you didn't even do the bare
45:36
minimum, right, which is fucked up. Right. And when Christine called
45:38
her on it, she got upset because it's upsetting, just like she got
45:44
up, Well, she got upset a Christine for outing her, just like
45:45
she got upset with Christine for outing her melted down ring. She did not
45:51
want anybody to know. It's too personal, it's humiliating. Yeah, and
45:54
I think she disassociates a bit from her actual feelings. That's probably why she
45:58
was telling Christine like, just agnit because that's what she does. So yeah,
46:01
to have somebody shit a spotlight on it, it's like, oh,
46:04
that's hella uncomfortable, right to have everybody know my vulnerable and how the fuck
46:08
there you? I hate you well, And so they have the big family
46:13
get together. People cook, ittes Christine, she's the party mama, so
46:16
she's cooking. She's doing this whole party for Mary. And then Mary gets
46:21
her present from Cody and it is a trip to Plia del Carmen, which
46:25
is their favorite place in Mexico. And she's so happy, and I'm happy
46:31
for her because she's happy. Yeah, and that's the end of the episode.
46:36
Yeah. I thought that was sweet with the Mexico trip. But at
46:38
the same time, I'm like, that's just him trying to make up for
46:42
not doing it because he got called out in camera on camera and by then
46:45
he knows it yep, and so he's like, well, I have to
46:46
do some kind of big grand gesture. Okay, so you just printed off
46:51
the internet and then you have Robin rappit for you, so you're not doing
46:54
anything, really not taking all the credit. And then they flash to like
46:59
Christine and Janet, and both of them don't really look happy, like they're
47:01
like, oh whatever. But I'm like, does he take them out of
47:05
country? Like he doesn't. He takes them on road trips, right,
47:07
Well, he's going to take Christine to Galveston. Booty, my god.
47:15
Everybody in Texas thinks it's like beautiful because it's on the beach town. I'm
47:17
from Hawaii, honey, dude, I know beaches it is. I've also
47:22
been to the Yucatan, I've been to the British Virgin Islands. I've been
47:25
all over the world, and ay aiyi, Galveston is not it. It
47:29
is terrible. Well but I mean whatever, but what was it like two
47:32
years ago? Was I there? Yes, oh my god, and you
47:36
were complaining. I was whatsapping you the entire time. I'm just like,
47:38
I'm in a COVID hotel. They had me on some sort of a duck
47:42
tour where we were on the land and then we were in the water.
47:45
I don't know. You were so unhappy. You're like, never again,
47:51
and get me out of Galveston. So like that's where he takes her though,
47:53
and when they were married for their honeymoon, they fucking took a road
47:57
trip to Wayom. I know. So what does Christine get? What does
48:00
jaellee? What does Mary gets? Mexico? Yes, right, she gets
48:04
Mexico twice because they were in Mexico in like season one or something again for
48:07
their twentieth anniversary, and then she gets it again only because he fucked up
48:10
and didn't write anything the year prior. So it's just a way for him
48:15
to be like, yeah, see, I'm a good husband, kind of
48:16
like what he did last episode with Christine, Like I got you the ring
48:20
you wanted and it was expensive. Am I out of the doghouse? Now?
48:23
I checked the box? Right, So it's just like, yeah,
48:27
it's nice, but it doesn't really mean anything. It does to Mary,
48:30
I mean the way she smiles at him and she like calls him over across
48:34
the room and gives him a nice kiss. But she's very careful and she
48:37
even talks about it in this episode, like to show too much affection or
48:42
connection with Cody because she doesn't want the other sister wives to feel bad about
48:45
it, so she doesn't really go over the top with that. But I'm
48:49
like I think she's really happy. Yeah, and I just got it's all
48:52
so sad. I think she thinks she's happy, Like, but then how's
48:57
the trip going to be? You know? Yeah? Well I hope are
48:59
we see I hope. I don't think we do. Actually no, Okay,
49:04
I don't know if we do. I know they discussed the surrogacy again,
49:06
but I always connect that to the first Mexico visit. But I think
49:09
they discussed that. They bring it up a lot only because Robin brings it
49:13
up, Okay, because she's like, I'm a good sister a way if
49:15
I offered surrogacy because I care. Okay, Well, we'll get to it,
49:20
all right. Any final thoughts about this episode. I mean, obviously
49:25
I'm asking you, so I'm gonna let you answer. I always do that.
49:29
I ask you then I just barrel on. But I mean I do
49:30
have thoughts. No, it's okay. I mean I thought it was an
49:34
interesting episode to see how they were really trying to force this idea that they're
49:39
like all happy and they're working on things. And I could see how like
49:44
watching this season when it aired back then, you're like thinking, Wow,
49:47
Cody's like a stand up guy, Like he cares about them, and you
49:52
know, maybe he's making it work with Christine and like it's good, he's
49:54
trying to balance it out, like good job, Cody. And now with
49:59
the current perspect it's like you look back on it, you're like, wow,
50:01
dude, he's been hating them for a long time time, you know,
50:06
and it does lend credence to him saying in season eighteen, like I
50:09
never loved them. I don't believe that still, but he has not felt
50:14
that love for them since Robin came into the picture, and you can really
50:17
tell in these seasons for sure. I just think it's really sad. I
50:21
also think they're just like colossal liars and maybe they don't know that they're lying.
50:27
Maybe they're holding out for hope, like Mary, like she's hoping it's
50:29
going to get better. But they are still covering for Cody and Robin and
50:32
they're lie, lie, lie, lie liars. I'm wondering if with like
50:37
John and Kate plus eight, which I think took place two thousand and seven,
50:42
two thousand and eight around there and season one we were seeing yeaw she
50:46
treated John and how they were fighting and how they were bickering. I wonder
50:51
if they went into their series the Browns like conscious and cognizant to that that
50:55
they are not going to show any of that, because they all seem really
51:00
careful, except for Christine, who's pretty careful but not always to kind of
51:05
curate how they appear to other people. I think you might be onto something
51:07
there, and it's probably from the place of like, we want to protect
51:10
the family and we want to keep some of our personal issues private, which
51:15
I mean is fair because like they're on the TV stage, Like it's not
51:19
like you want your marital issues to be out. You don't want people to
51:22
know that your husband hasn't been fucking you, or that your husband's don't attracted
51:25
to you, Like you don't want those things out there, even when you're
51:29
doing a public show. So like maybe there was that element in it,
51:32
and I don't think we can fault them for it. But at the same
51:35
time, it's frustrating because when Christine says shit like the issue is the courtship,
51:40
and then you turn it around and say it's because of your position as
51:44
a wife, and then Mary corroborates that, right, and it's like,
51:46
oh, yeah, she's just dealing with not being the last Wife anymore.
51:51
Like it's like, okay, you can really see how it's the golden handcuffs
51:54
because they're getting paid by TLC. This is more money than they've ever seen
51:58
in their whole life. You can tell of how they act with the little
52:00
money that they do get with their least fucking mlm vehicle, Like they go
52:05
crazy for that. So this is the most money that they've ever received.
52:08
And so now they are invested in continuing with the facade and the illusion,
52:14
right because otherwise they're going to lose their money and then they're going to be
52:16
screwed. Yep, yep, yeap. Well this is good. It's juice.
52:22
I like it a lot, it too, all right, Well,
52:24
we will be back later this week. We're going to be discussing the first
52:29
episode of Van der Pump Rules. I'm excited. We're also continuing to cover
52:35
Nine to Day Fiance, which is a shit show. Oh yeah, Nikki
52:37
sings this episode. Oh my god, I can't wait. It's terrible.
52:42
You know how much I love a singing reality TV star. I think we'll
52:45
also be able to drink alcoholic beverages. When is January over? January's over
52:50
on Wednesday, okay, perfect, So have cocktails. We'll be talking about
52:53
all that shit. I cannot wait until then. Is there anything else that
52:57
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53:00
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