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King of Paradise with Chris Bukowski · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with our radio. This is
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Speaker 1: a really like emotional day for the podcast. Uh. Not
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Speaker 1: only am I super tired, like ridiculously exhausted, I'm also
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Speaker 1: without my co host Ashley have been. What are we
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Speaker 1: gonna do about? This is no longer Ashley I. We
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Speaker 1: know we have an aster, she's married. Honestly, it's another
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Speaker 1: human being. When you say Ashley Haven, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what to do with it. And I'm tired and I
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Speaker 1: can't process it. Uh. This is the day after the
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Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared extravaganza, the wedding of the Millennia. We
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Speaker 1: are here live talking about paradise because that's how much
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Speaker 1: we love the show. But I'm I'm poode. Are you
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Speaker 1: right now? Um, I'm in Newport, I'm right where the
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Speaker 1: wedding took place. Jessica actually just left to jump on
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Speaker 1: a flight, and uh and I stuck around for an
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Speaker 1: evening to do the podcast and to talk to you all.
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Speaker 1: We have Toria, Danielle and Studio along with Easton. UM.
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Speaker 1: We like to call them the magic behind the scenes. Uh,
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Speaker 1: the engine, um that keeps this thing moving. But today
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Speaker 1: they're gonna sit here and talk to me because there's
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Speaker 1: just so much the process that I we we all
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that we get it all out there.
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Speaker 1: So let me start here. Though. UM, if if anybody
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Speaker 1: didn't know that listened to the podcast, actually got married yesterday.
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Speaker 1: She got married. Wonderful. Yeah. Um, she got married to
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Speaker 1: Jared Jared Hamn, who was a good friend of mine,
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Speaker 1: uh from Caitlyn season The Bachelor. At But I tell
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Speaker 1: you one thing, there's a lot of anticipation behind this wedding,
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Speaker 1: and I think for two reasons, and you all in
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Speaker 1: studio please tell me if I'm wrong, and all of
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Speaker 1: you out there, I've been loving the tweets. We got
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Speaker 1: hundreds of tweets this week from you all tagging Almost
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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. I tried to go through and like them
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Speaker 1: all just to show you that we we were watching,
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Speaker 1: but please send in your opinions. Anyways, there was a
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Speaker 1: ton of anticipation behind this wedding for two reasons. One,
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Speaker 1: this love story has been incredible and we've been to
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Speaker 1: watch it for years and years and years and we're
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Speaker 1: fans of these two. But two, it's Ashley and we've
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Speaker 1: always known that Ashley's wedding day was something that she
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Speaker 1: was like like always pumped for, always prepping for, and
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Speaker 1: so there was so much kind of nerves that I
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Speaker 1: even had as I was getting ready for the wedding, thinking,
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Speaker 1: out of any wedding I've ever been to, this is
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Speaker 1: the one that I know was most most anticipated by
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Speaker 1: the bride. And it did not fail, It did not
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Speaker 1: fall short. It was absolutely magical. Uh, let me walk
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Speaker 1: through a few of the details. Um. I stayed in
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Speaker 1: the house with Nick Vile, Chris Stranberg, who was Cupcake
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Speaker 1: on Caitlin season in Dean Ungler, and then Jessica uh
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Speaker 1: stayed at her cousins house and we'd come back and forth,
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Speaker 1: so we got to spend a ton of time together,
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Speaker 1: which was absolutely incredible. It was fun for Jessica to
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Speaker 1: be able to meet so many people from the Bachelor franchise.
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Speaker 1: She had been down and met some people before, but
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Speaker 1: this is the first time she had been surrounded by
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Speaker 1: by some of some of my closest friends all in
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Speaker 1: one room. And and so we get ready for this
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Speaker 1: wedding and to find out the wedding in the chapels
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Speaker 1: right across the street from where Airbnb was. We walk
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Speaker 1: in and there's I'm not kidding you, the street is
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Speaker 1: lined with Newport's Fine is taking pictures as we walk
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Speaker 1: it Like it looked like it looked like what I
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Speaker 1: imagined the Royal wedding. Like people were standing across the
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Speaker 1: street with security blocking them from the entrance to the chapel.
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Speaker 1: It made Ashley had to feel so love. It was
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Speaker 1: the oscars of Bachelor weddings. Yeah, it was crazy. I
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Speaker 1: mean there's literally people standing on both sides the street,
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Speaker 1: and we walked so like our by Airbnb sat kind
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Speaker 1: of right across the street from the k Chapel and um,
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Speaker 1: the Viking Hotel. And so as we walk out of
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Speaker 1: our lane and turned the corner, then all these people
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Speaker 1: are there. And the last time I had a bunch
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Speaker 1: of people lining a road for me was during my
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Speaker 1: half marathon, and I was jacked. I thought, you know,
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Speaker 1: there's an adrenaline rush. Um. But yeah, the ceremony was awesome.
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Speaker 1: Along Gale did the ceremony. Who was a the executive
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Speaker 1: producer on The Bachelor during a lot of the season's
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Speaker 1: ashe was on. He's no longer with the show, but
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Speaker 1: like a really long like frizzy kind of yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: like curly and crazy and um, he writes now a
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Speaker 1: lot for for Netflix and for horror films and uh.
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Speaker 1: But he he's a big personality and an extremely intelligent
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Speaker 1: guy and just a really fun guy to talk to. Uh.
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Speaker 1: But eccentric is a good word to use to describe him.
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Speaker 1: And he wrote a very eccentric but very personal, very
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Speaker 1: personal um ceremony that talked about he compared this a
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Speaker 1: little behind the scenes. He compared Astley to being a
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Speaker 1: goldfish too, where when she sees she lives in this
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Speaker 1: glass bowl that's hard on all sides, and when she
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Speaker 1: sees something, she goes after it as hard as she can,
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Speaker 1: and then she runs into the side of the bowl
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Speaker 1: and then it hits her nose and it stops her
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Speaker 1: her and and she cries and she's hurt and she
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Speaker 1: feels it. It's painful, and then she gets back up
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Speaker 1: on her feet. Or I guess if you're a goldfish,
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Speaker 1: you start swimming again and you look at the other
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Speaker 1: side of the bowl. There's something you want you swim
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Speaker 1: over to, and you hit your nose, and you just
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Speaker 1: keep doing that. You just keep bouncing back and forth
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Speaker 1: across the bowl because you believe there's a big world
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Speaker 1: out there, full of possibilities and intrigue. Yet there's this
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Speaker 1: there's this bowl that's stopping you. And he compared Jared
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Speaker 1: to the bowl to where he wouldn't stop her anymore.
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Speaker 1: That he he he would be the one that she
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Speaker 1: could live with within this bowl safely without hitting her nose,
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Speaker 1: that he would be the protective force around her, um
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Speaker 1: that he would allow her to be her biggest and
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Speaker 1: best self while she was still trying to to to
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Speaker 1: push through the sides and continue to hit her nose
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Speaker 1: that Jared be the one that says, no, you can.
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Speaker 1: You can live with me and within me, and I'll
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Speaker 1: be the guy to help you get there. And it
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Speaker 1: was really beautiful. The whole ceremony worked. Uh. Jessica looked
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Speaker 1: over at me halfway through the ceremony because people were
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Speaker 1: crying and laughing all at the same time, and she goes,
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Speaker 1: I've never been to a ceremonies felt so personal, Like
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Speaker 1: it just felt like Ashley and Jared. Ashley sneezed halfway
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Speaker 1: in between the ceremony um their dogs walked down the aisle.
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Speaker 1: She kept looking out at the audience and doing her
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Speaker 1: like Ashley smile face and you can't trying smiling. Um.
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Speaker 1: It was wonderful and I really got chills from that
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Speaker 1: goldfish thing analogy that was it's so perfect for them,
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Speaker 1: so perfect it really is. When you find that kind
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Speaker 1: of safe comfort, right um, that can then be your
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Speaker 1: partner that loves you unconditionally and that wants to be
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Speaker 1: your support, it's a really beautiful thing. And that's what
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Speaker 1: Actley and Jared have. I mean, if you look at
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Speaker 1: their dynamic Ashley is emotional, she feels deeply um, she's sporadic,
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Speaker 1: she's passionate, she's purpose filled, and she sets her sights
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Speaker 1: on something and goes after it and doesn't really know
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Speaker 1: kind of what's going on around her while she's pursuing
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Speaker 1: these things. And then you have Jared, whose calm, collected,
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Speaker 1: patient um, who doesn't, who loves his comfort zone, who
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Speaker 1: maybe doesn't. He has goals and is driven, but yet
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Speaker 1: he doesn't always know how to step foot to do
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Speaker 1: him And so between the two of them, they're the
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Speaker 1: perfect match. And we've always known this bachelination has always
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Speaker 1: known that Jared and Ashley were meant for each other,
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Speaker 1: always known that Jared and Ashley were something special. We
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Speaker 1: were just waiting for them to figure it out. And
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Speaker 1: the fear came really even for us on this podcast
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Speaker 1: at some one point in Ashley's life that she was like,
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Speaker 1: they were never going to figure it out. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we sat with her when Ashley and Jared would you
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Speaker 1: would tell us, no, it's no longer ever going to
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Speaker 1: be a thing, right, you know, that's a scary moment
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Speaker 1: to look back on now, right, but full circle, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: look at them now, I know and then we just
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Speaker 1: have so many questions to ask you, so we're into
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Speaker 1: some rapid fire perfect But before we do that, let's
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Speaker 1: Tory in Eastern feel free to chime in what you
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Speaker 1: want to. I know you you're super intrigued about everything
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Speaker 1: happening at the Iken Eddie Haven wedding in Newport, Rhode
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Speaker 1: Island this weekend. Definitely, it seems like, honest, I had
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Speaker 1: a lot of fomo, so much foe, Like I had
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Speaker 1: to stop watching stories at certain points because I was
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Speaker 1: like the boat ride, the games, the weather, the whole
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Speaker 1: the whole weekend. When I was looking at pictures, I
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Speaker 1: literally was thinking that Ashley was princess Jasmine like thing
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Speaker 1: she wore. I was like, we were literally a Disney princess. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And she changed dresses at like it was wild. But
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Speaker 1: she I've ever seen Ashley do that face where she
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Speaker 1: kind of becomes a model for a second. She like
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Speaker 1: it's really serious and you can't tell she's like trying
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Speaker 1: too hard or just like naturally that like she did that.
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Speaker 1: She did that face, and she walked into the reception,
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Speaker 1: she did that face and the whole like like it
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Speaker 1: was She's done that face many times, Like I said,
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Speaker 1: you say, that was the she pulled it off perfectly
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Speaker 1: in that moment. It was like it was like Zooland
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Speaker 1: and everything came together for that moment and the world
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Speaker 1: stopped when Ashley walked in. Before we get started on
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Speaker 1: the rapid fire, crazy fact here Their reception was at
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Speaker 1: a place that the original Great Gatsby was filmed. It's
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Speaker 1: called rose cliff Um. It is the most in true
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Speaker 1: lies is Dancing without Arnold Schwarzenegger was filmed there. It
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Speaker 1: is the most amazing place. You walk out from this
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Speaker 1: mansion into the backyard and it opens up for like
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Speaker 1: five acres to the water to the ocean, and there's
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Speaker 1: a huge fountain in the middle. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: many times in life, and listeners, I'm sure you've you've
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Speaker 1: had this where you see something and like everything slows down.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the most beautiful things that you've ever seen.
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Speaker 1: It's their Their reception was really that they had these
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Speaker 1: like rose I called them this morning. I saw Ashley
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Speaker 1: before they left on their honeymoon, and I said, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: your your your rose uh your rose deals in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the table were beautiful, like they're huge. As
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Speaker 1: she goes, they're actually rose bushes that they put in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the table. These like huge, massive rose
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Speaker 1: bushes sat in the middle of each table at the
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Speaker 1: ceremony and we're lifted up like ten ft in the air.
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Speaker 1: It was I don't know, this is wild. I'm from
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Speaker 1: Jessica and I talked about today. I'm from Indiana. Like
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Speaker 1: I'm used to a pulled pork barbecue buffet. I'm not kidding,
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Speaker 1: and I don't nothing against I've really enjoyed those. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm used to for weddings. This thing
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Speaker 1: was spectacular. Okay, So I'm gonna slow down. I'm gonna stop.
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Speaker 1: I would love for you all to rapid fire me
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Speaker 1: with questions. I want to answer the best I can
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Speaker 1: and uh, and then we'll move on to break down
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Speaker 1: this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise. Perfect, Daniel, you
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Speaker 1: want to go first? Sure, Okay. I want to know
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Speaker 1: who cried first? Ben or Ashley. Well that's a great question,
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Speaker 1: a really good question. I'm going to throw you in
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Speaker 1: this now. Who cried first? Ben? So you Ashley or Jared?
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Speaker 1: Jared cried first? I cried second, actually cried the third.
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Speaker 1: I cried when Ashley walked down the aisle and Jared
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Speaker 1: looked at Ashley. I started crying, and then I think
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Speaker 1: Ashley cried once she got up on stage. Well that
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Speaker 1: brings me to my question, who did you look at first? Jared?
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Speaker 1: Once the doors opened for the bride Jared or Ashley. Jared,
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Speaker 1: I had my eyes on Jared and because that's one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of any wedding. And I don't
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Speaker 1: know if please right in with what your favorite parts
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Speaker 1: are at the Ben and Ashley and I hurt media come,
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Speaker 1: but my favorite part is watching the grooms as as
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Speaker 1: the bride comes in. Hey, Ben, this is Easton the
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Speaker 1: first time. Call her a long time engineer here, and
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Speaker 1: I have a question about those those dunkin donuts that
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Speaker 1: had you on them? How did that work? How did
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Speaker 1: that happen? Yeah, So what Eastern is talking about is
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Speaker 1: at the end of the night, the gift as we
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Speaker 1: walk out were two donuts and one of the donuts
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Speaker 1: had a picture on them of you and your date
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Speaker 1: that you got right when you walked in. So as
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Speaker 1: you walk into the reception there's a photographer they're taking pictures.
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Speaker 1: In the end of the night, you walk out and
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Speaker 1: you literally had a donut with your face printed on
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Speaker 1: it of the picture. I don't know how it worked,
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Speaker 1: but within four hours from us walking in and walking out,
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Speaker 1: they had every single person got one of these donuts
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Speaker 1: to walk away with. It was wild Dunkin Donuts? Did it? Um?
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Speaker 1: They there's two things Eastern that they pulled off for
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Speaker 1: this wedding. One is that that was amazing and they're
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Speaker 1: edible too. Is the wedding video company that they hired
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Speaker 1: put together a video arting on Friday, and by the
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Speaker 1: time we had the wedding ended on Sunday, they had
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Speaker 1: the whole thing completed, including including the ceremony. The wedding
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Speaker 1: ceremony they had edited. By the time we left the reception,
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Speaker 1: they had this video done. They even had in contact,
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Speaker 1: but are going to get married a million dollars with
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Speaker 1: a bunch of ABC people and they were all like, no,
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Speaker 1: this is one of the most impressive like things we've
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Speaker 1: ever seen pulled up. They was so um. Yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: a good question. Duncan Donuts really did a great job there.
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Speaker 1: I gotta give it to them. They have great donuts
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Speaker 1: and uh the second best coffee in the world compared
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Speaker 1: to Generous acts. Okay, next question, So you you mentioned
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Speaker 1: that this was one of the first times just really
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Speaker 1: it was around Bachelor Nation and a lot of people
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Speaker 1: from the franchise. Who did she hit it off with
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Speaker 1: the most? Yeah, well, first off, it was and it
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Speaker 1: was it was really I don't think people realize how
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Speaker 1: nervous Jessica is to enter into this world at all, um,
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Speaker 1: because it is intimidating and there's a lot of attention
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Speaker 1: around it, and I think she feels consistent like she's
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Speaker 1: gonna be constantly judged um and she's not, and she
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Speaker 1: also knows that, but it's a feeling she has, and
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Speaker 1: so this was a big deal for her anytime she
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Speaker 1: interests into these groups. And she really left today going
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Speaker 1: cooly cow. I never realized how nice everybody was gonna
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Speaker 1: be to me, Like that was one takeaway. So nobody
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Speaker 1: was mean to Jessica. Everybody invested into her and spoke
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Speaker 1: highly of her and spoke to her. But there's two
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Speaker 1: people that really sit out and you're not gonna be
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Speaker 1: surprised by this. Tanya and Becca were incredible, absolutely incredible
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Speaker 1: to Jessica. Now, Jessica spent a lot of time with
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Speaker 1: my roommates in my house and Nick and Dean and Chris,
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Speaker 1: and that was great. But Tanya and Becca came over
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Speaker 1: to our airbnb one night after we went out for
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Speaker 1: dinner and just talked to Jessica and I for probably
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Speaker 1: three hours just about life. And they did that like
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Speaker 1: on their own time and on Jessica's or on Tanya's
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Speaker 1: vacation in time away. Yeah, those that was amazing. Those
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Speaker 1: two women are Those two women are just I hope
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Speaker 1: they feel how great they are. They're the best, literally cold. Okay,
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Speaker 1: who gave the best speech at the rehearsal dinner, because
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Speaker 1: it seems like there were quite a few people who
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Speaker 1: stood up and gave a little something. Yeah, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: you know, there was there was a few there. I
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Speaker 1: thought Jared speech was really really nice. Uh. Naz Perez
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Speaker 1: Um did an incredible speech. Um, A couple Ashley's friends
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Speaker 1: really really crushed it. And then Nick file Um he
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Speaker 1: gave a speech and and got really emotional. It was good.
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Speaker 1: It was It was good to see him kind of
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Speaker 1: pour his hat on his heart out there. So those
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Speaker 1: were We're really great. But I want to say this too,
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Speaker 1: um Fred Jared's dad afterwards goes, you know, sometimes you
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Speaker 1: sit inside these speech things and you know, get one
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Speaker 1: good one about eight bad ones because there's eight people
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Speaker 1: total that spoke and U the one part that we
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Speaker 1: all took away was every single speech was meaningful. It
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Speaker 1: was heartfelt, it was true, it was authentic and uh,
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Speaker 1: and we all walked away from those speeches. I think
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Speaker 1: knowing Ashley. Actually Ashley's father said this at the reception.
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Speaker 1: He goes, after those speeches, I knew my daughter better,
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Speaker 1: who was a drunkist who had one too many drinks.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. Um, well honestly, and I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to just back out of this question.
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Speaker 1: So Ashley and Jared aren't big drinkers. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you knew that. They're not big party or as.
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Speaker 1: They love their time at home, and so the wedding
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Speaker 1: wasn't set up to drink at So we had an
18:35
Speaker 1: open bar when we first got there, and then we
18:37
Speaker 1: had a beautiful dinner. But during the dinner there was
18:40
Speaker 1: multiple kind of events I'll say, like an Ashley style
18:43
Speaker 1: where we had David Cook come out and sing, and
18:45
Speaker 1: then we had a slide show of Ashley's childhood, and
18:48
Speaker 1: then we had speeches by all the fathers and dances
18:51
Speaker 1: and then once that was done, the DJ started for
18:54
Speaker 1: another probably forty five minutes, and then it was over.
18:56
Speaker 1: And so it was very Ashley and Jared esk. So
18:58
Speaker 1: there wasn't like an opportunity for any to get too drunk.
19:01
Speaker 1: It just didn't happen, um, which was good because that's
19:05
Speaker 1: not what they wanted um in it. So yeah, I
19:09
Speaker 1: don't think there was anybody that kind of walked out
19:10
Speaker 1: of there feeling it. So then on that note, what
19:13
Speaker 1: was for dinner? Okay? So we had a beef filet
19:18
Speaker 1: or you could choose salmon. We had caprice salad with
19:21
Speaker 1: antipasta um. And then the final dish was wedding cake.
19:27
Speaker 1: That was nine like layers talk. Yeah, the stress, the
19:32
Speaker 1: stress for whoever carried that in. They had to have
19:37
Speaker 1: a separate room just for the wedding cake cutting because
19:40
Speaker 1: it was like so big. Oh yeah, it was massive, absolutely,
19:43
Speaker 1: I mean massive. Um. Okay, So who caught the bouquet?
19:51
Speaker 1: It was set up? This is one oh yeah right
19:56
Speaker 1: no oh, so Nick Vile caught the bookcase it. Somehow
20:02
Speaker 1: that just seems so fitting to me that somehow he's
20:05
Speaker 1: there your part. He was the only one standing there
20:07
Speaker 1: ready to catch it, the only one, the only one.
20:12
Speaker 1: So Ashley was like Nick, stand out here, and then
20:15
Speaker 1: they threw it and Nick caught it. So I feel
20:18
Speaker 1: like it was set up. I don't know if it
20:20
Speaker 1: was requested upon or what. But Nick caught the bouquet. Okay,
20:24
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Did they toss the garter? Is that think
20:28
Speaker 1: people didn't see it? No, they had decided not to.
20:31
Speaker 1: I'll have to ask Ashley when she's back why she
20:33
Speaker 1: decided not to. But it was a conscious decision not
20:35
Speaker 1: to do the garter um throwing. You know, at my wedding,
20:38
Speaker 1: we threw a garter off of me. I was wearing
20:41
Speaker 1: when the whole night and we pulled my pant leg
20:43
Speaker 1: up and through that. It was fun. How did you
20:46
Speaker 1: get that off, buddy? To pull my pants up in
20:52
Speaker 1: front of my closest friends and family? He said, I
20:55
Speaker 1: expect nothing lost from you. Okay, Ben. One other question,
20:59
Speaker 1: What was one thing that you saw from that wedding
21:01
Speaker 1: that you said that is definitely going to be at
21:03
Speaker 1: my wedding. That's a good one, great question. Um, Well,
21:08
Speaker 1: you know one thing they really did well was when
21:09
Speaker 1: you walked into the reception. Uh they had it lined
21:13
Speaker 1: with people passing out drinks and food and so it
21:16
Speaker 1: really made you feel welcomed right away. And then you
21:18
Speaker 1: walked out. And here's the one part that I would
21:20
Speaker 1: take it, but I won an outdoor part to my wedding, Like,
21:23
Speaker 1: I want something to be like the cocktails hour that
21:26
Speaker 1: we had outside. Um, it was like just in the
21:30
Speaker 1: eating time was one of the most beautiful things I've
21:32
Speaker 1: ever seen. I want people outside drinking, talking, mingling, enjoying themselves. Um,
21:37
Speaker 1: at my wedding outside it feels area, it feels more fun,
21:41
Speaker 1: it feels fresh, it feels like a party. Right, So yeah,
21:44
Speaker 1: that was definitely a good takeaway. A lot of this,
21:47
Speaker 1: to be honest, a lot of this stuff that was
21:48
Speaker 1: done at these this wedding, like I don't think I
21:51
Speaker 1: could ever pull off, like only Ashley could pull off
21:53
Speaker 1: this stuff that happened at this wedding. It just it
21:55
Speaker 1: was just very Ashley was very pink, it was very big,
21:58
Speaker 1: it was very like it was just it was just
22:01
Speaker 1: completely Ashley. And so I walked away from a lot
22:04
Speaker 1: of it being like, There's no way I could do this.
22:07
Speaker 1: Their their wedding planer, Troy did an insane job. The
22:10
Speaker 1: guy was just magic. He was awesome. Okay, last, but
22:14
Speaker 1: not least, when did you look over at Jess and say,
22:18
Speaker 1: I can't wait till this is our time because I
22:21
Speaker 1: know that that happened and a hand squeeze something happened
22:26
Speaker 1: where you guys were like, I can't wait for our time. Okay,
22:29
Speaker 1: So here here's where it hit me. I don't know
22:31
Speaker 1: if I looked over and said it to her, but
22:32
Speaker 1: the I was like pretty like emotional right away when
22:36
Speaker 1: it came to the wedding and Ashley walked down Jared
22:39
Speaker 1: Saaler and they're up there and Ashley's like getting fixed up,
22:42
Speaker 1: and then you know, just continually hit me that this
22:45
Speaker 1: was the moment she's been waiting for and she found.
22:47
Speaker 1: This isn't just a ceremony to her, this is this
22:50
Speaker 1: is a miracle coming true. She found a man that
22:52
Speaker 1: loves her. And so I started crying. I started crying
22:55
Speaker 1: pretty good. And Jess looked I could see like through
22:58
Speaker 1: a corner, and she looked up at me, and I
23:00
Speaker 1: was like, I don't mind a cry in front of her,
23:02
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I ever have. And she
23:04
Speaker 1: just looked at me, and then she took her hand
23:07
Speaker 1: and she grabbed my hand and she just squeezed it
23:08
Speaker 1: and just sat and looked forward and just like like
23:11
Speaker 1: was like just kind of patting my hand like oh
23:13
Speaker 1: it's all good, Like this is good. And I was like,
23:15
Speaker 1: this is this is a girl loves me Like this
23:17
Speaker 1: girl loves me. She she she She's in it with me,
23:21
Speaker 1: no matter thick and thin. So that was that was sweet.
23:25
Speaker 1: Did you hear the music with you? No? I did
23:28
Speaker 1: not hear the music, but I'm assuming it was really great. Hey,
23:31
Speaker 1: can I tell you guys a story? We're ready? Of course.
23:36
Speaker 1: I think I've I've touched on a few times um
23:39
Speaker 1: during this podcast, but ever really interesting. So we all
23:42
Speaker 1: know we love Ashley. Ashley. I could go on and
23:45
Speaker 1: on and I will and I do. Uh. You know,
23:48
Speaker 1: she feels she says things that are crazy and awkward
23:52
Speaker 1: and weird, and then she feels strong and she feels
23:56
Speaker 1: a lot of emotion and she cares and every single
23:59
Speaker 1: one of her friends that it up on stage. Uh.
24:01
Speaker 1: During the rehearsal said I've never met a friend, UM
24:05
Speaker 1: that literally would be lay beside me as I'm in
24:08
Speaker 1: the hospital she's done it, or she lays beside me
24:10
Speaker 1: during every breakup, or she'll sit beside me between Like
24:13
Speaker 1: Ashley just loves hard and she wants people to be
24:16
Speaker 1: the fullest version of themselves. I can go on Ashley,
24:18
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about Jared. Jared because actually
24:21
Speaker 1: is such a a big figure, a prominent figure. Jared
24:24
Speaker 1: doesn't get talked about a lot, but I want everybody
24:29
Speaker 1: to know how incredible of a man Jared Haben is.
24:32
Speaker 1: And he he is the Yang to Ashley Yang completely.
24:37
Speaker 1: I mean, he is the opposite of Ashley and that's
24:39
Speaker 1: what makes them so great. But Jared has been consistent
24:44
Speaker 1: to me ever since the time I was on the show,
24:46
Speaker 1: and on the very first night of the bachelrette this
24:49
Speaker 1: is a moment that really means a lot to me personally.
24:52
Speaker 1: I get out of the limo feeling completely out of place,
24:56
Speaker 1: not knowing what I'm doing. I go inside of the
24:59
Speaker 1: house and I sit down on the out and I'm
25:01
Speaker 1: sitting there and all of a sudden, I hear this
25:03
Speaker 1: laughter coming from one of the windows of the house,
25:06
Speaker 1: and so I get up and I look out it
25:07
Speaker 1: and it's Jared taking off his shirt and during Bachelorette,
25:10
Speaker 1: and his shirt says love man on it, and I
25:13
Speaker 1: was like, that guy is a nerd, a complete nerd,
25:15
Speaker 1: and I like it, and I need to talk to
25:17
Speaker 1: him because he's gonna make me feel more normal here.
25:20
Speaker 1: So he comes to the house and it just happens
25:21
Speaker 1: that he sits right next to me and we get
25:22
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit, and then I just I
25:24
Speaker 1: couldn't help it. I just looked at him and said, dude, man,
25:28
Speaker 1: like I don't belong here. Like I don't. There was
25:30
Speaker 1: professional athletes and there was a great looking dudes coming
25:34
Speaker 1: in and they're all had swagger and nice suits and
25:37
Speaker 1: all those things. I said, Jared, I don't belong here,
25:39
Speaker 1: and he, without hesitation, with however knowing me, Jared looked
25:42
Speaker 1: at me and he goes, don't be crazy, man, you
25:45
Speaker 1: belong anywhere, You belong anywhere. And that really was like
25:49
Speaker 1: this moment of accountability from somebody that didn't know me,
25:52
Speaker 1: somebody that had never met me. That kept me saying, okay, Ben,
25:56
Speaker 1: stop being the victim here. Stop getting down on yourself here.
25:59
Speaker 1: That's doing you no good. Um. And it's been a
26:02
Speaker 1: consistent message in my mind ever since then. And I
26:05
Speaker 1: don't even know if Jared knows it, but when I
26:07
Speaker 1: do feel that way, his little love man voice is listening,
26:11
Speaker 1: is whispering and mirror saying, don't be crazy, man. You
26:14
Speaker 1: belong anywhere, You belong everywhere you're at. And and then
26:18
Speaker 1: at the end of the show, Jared and I, uh
26:20
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of time to talk privately. Combers
26:23
Speaker 1: are around very often, and we're down to the final four,
26:26
Speaker 1: and that down to the final five and three of
26:27
Speaker 1: the guys on a date and Jared I are not,
26:30
Speaker 1: and we just get the opportunity to go into a
26:32
Speaker 1: steam room during the show, and we locked ourselves in
26:34
Speaker 1: the steam room for forty five minutes when it was
26:37
Speaker 1: at full capacity, just so we could talk with cameras.
26:40
Speaker 1: And at that moment, I realized that this dude cared
26:42
Speaker 1: so deeply for the people around him. He asked me
26:45
Speaker 1: questions about my life, which I don't feel like it's
26:47
Speaker 1: to happen very often. He asked me questions about my family,
26:49
Speaker 1: about what I want and a partner if maybe at
26:51
Speaker 1: the time Caitlin was it or not. He asked me
26:53
Speaker 1: about my insecure like this dude cares and so on
26:57
Speaker 1: their wedding day, I know this is Ashley's moment, this
26:59
Speaker 1: is should be Ashley's moment, and he wants it to
27:01
Speaker 1: be Ashley's moment, But I also want Jared to feel
27:04
Speaker 1: how much he has loved as well. And I am
27:06
Speaker 1: so so pumped um for them to start their lives together,
27:11
Speaker 1: and it closes all up. Ashley just had to put
27:13
Speaker 1: a little icing on the cake this morning because I
27:15
Speaker 1: went over to say goodbye to her before they left,
27:16
Speaker 1: and guess what shirt she was wearing? That Are you kidding?
27:21
Speaker 1: A generous coffee shirt. Um. So yeah, great wedding. I'm
27:29
Speaker 1: sure when Ashley gets back, we'll break it all down again.
27:32
Speaker 1: But what an incredible experience. Hey, uh, how about this.
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Speaker 1: there listening, if you hear my voice right now, I'm
29:49
Speaker 1: tired and I'm I'm exhausted. Here's a cool part about
29:53
Speaker 1: Ashton Jerry's wedding. I'm not tired from drinking. I'm tired
29:55
Speaker 1: from like dancing. My body hurts. Um But we're gonna
30:01
Speaker 1: get through this. Because Bachelor in Paradise so far has
30:03
Speaker 1: been incredible. I will say this. I will say this,
30:08
Speaker 1: It's fallen a little bit short when it comes to
30:12
Speaker 1: kind of investing into the storylines that I really want
30:15
Speaker 1: to hear about. I think, and I want to know
30:17
Speaker 1: if you at home feel the same way. I think
30:19
Speaker 1: we've focused a lot on Blake and the things that
30:21
Speaker 1: he's done outside the show, and I do think, for
30:24
Speaker 1: whatever reason, that's important for us to know. It's good
30:26
Speaker 1: information because it is making up a lot of the storylines,
30:29
Speaker 1: and the impact on the has a huge impact on
30:31
Speaker 1: the show. But personally, I just I don't want to
30:35
Speaker 1: hear about it every five minutes, Like I want to
30:38
Speaker 1: hear about the Clay and the coals, and I want
30:40
Speaker 1: to hear about what's happening even between the j pj's
30:42
Speaker 1: and Yakas and and how Cam is processing Kalin actually
30:46
Speaker 1: not being that into him. I don't love I just
30:51
Speaker 1: don't love the focus on Blake right now, and that's
30:53
Speaker 1: my take going into it. But I still think this
30:55
Speaker 1: season is going to end and be really good. Uh.
30:59
Speaker 1: We start out this episode with the Rose ceremony. Derek
31:02
Speaker 1: picks Dimmy Clay picks Nicole, Will's picks Katie, Kevin picks Sydney,
31:07
Speaker 1: J p J picks and yak Camp picks Kalin. Dylan
31:10
Speaker 1: picks Hannah Gee, Blake picks Tasia that seems like a
31:15
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem brewing, and Chris picks Christina. In
31:18
Speaker 1: a surprise to send Anneale, who was blindsided by Chris
31:23
Speaker 1: home hot sauce, Jane who literally had a thing of
31:27
Speaker 1: hot sauce six inches down her throat. It cannot be healthy.
31:30
Speaker 1: And Bibiana, who once again has to go home on
31:35
Speaker 1: this franchise. We don't like that about Bibiana. Bibiana is
31:38
Speaker 1: one of our favorite She's spicy, she's great, she's beautiful.
31:41
Speaker 1: At some point, Vibiana is gonna find a guy that
31:43
Speaker 1: swoops her off her feet and we're all going to
31:45
Speaker 1: be celebrating it. So then, yes, quick question for you.
31:49
Speaker 1: Do you think if the rose was first offered to
31:54
Speaker 1: Blake and was given to Hannah Ge, would she have
31:57
Speaker 1: accepted it before Dylan was given the rose first? Based
32:02
Speaker 1: on what we saw this episode, it seems like if
32:04
Speaker 1: you would have asked me that Senara right after the
32:06
Speaker 1: ROAs somebody I said, I would have probably said no
32:08
Speaker 1: because I thought her and Dylan had something like really
32:12
Speaker 1: good going and I think she I thought she realized it.
32:15
Speaker 1: But after watching this episode, I don't think I think
32:19
Speaker 1: she would have. I think she would have left and said, Okay, Blake,
32:21
Speaker 1: let's give this thing a shot. I actually think that's
32:23
Speaker 1: kind of what she's saying right now on this episode. Well,
32:27
Speaker 1: and follow up do you if I don't know if
32:30
Speaker 1: you know this or not, because I don't know you've
32:31
Speaker 1: never done Bachelor in Paradise. But if let's say Blake
32:34
Speaker 1: went first and offered his rose to Hannah Gye and
32:37
Speaker 1: she said no because she wanted it to be given
32:39
Speaker 1: to Dylan, does he get like a second go around
32:41
Speaker 1: being like okay, then I pick you? Or would he
32:44
Speaker 1: would he have gone home immediately? Oh? I don't know
32:48
Speaker 1: if I know the answer to that. That's a great question. Yeah,
32:52
Speaker 1: so what happinking about that? Because I was like, oh
32:54
Speaker 1: my gosh, we need to know who's going first, because
32:56
Speaker 1: if Blake does it, that could have been a game
32:59
Speaker 1: changer to the whole scenario. If she would have been
33:02
Speaker 1: like no, sorry, because she it seems like after this
33:04
Speaker 1: episode she really has only communicated with Dylan that she's
33:07
Speaker 1: interested for Dylan, So would have really confused. Yeah, So
33:11
Speaker 1: I don't know what he had been sent home or
33:13
Speaker 1: could he be like okay, sorry about that, Dantasia. So
33:16
Speaker 1: here's a scenario. A guy offers a girl or a
33:18
Speaker 1: girl offers a guy when they have the power a
33:21
Speaker 1: rose that roses then turned down. Does the girl or
33:24
Speaker 1: guy get another chance to find somebody else to mabe
33:26
Speaker 1: except the Rose or do they both or then do
33:29
Speaker 1: they go home? Or there's a guy go home or
33:31
Speaker 1: the people in power go home. I don't know the
33:32
Speaker 1: answer that, but I bet our listeners do, so please
33:35
Speaker 1: tweet us and hashtag almost same his podcast with your
33:37
Speaker 1: answer to this scenario. I'm sure it's happened before, I
33:40
Speaker 1: just don't know it, or email us at been and
33:42
Speaker 1: Ashley at I heart media dot com. Okay, moving on
33:47
Speaker 1: here the Blake in Hannah Gee situation. The episode after
33:51
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony kicks off with Blake claiming that he's
33:54
Speaker 1: going to go hard after Hannah g He is pursuing
33:57
Speaker 1: Hannah Gee. Now this has red flags written all over it.
34:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you and anybody else
34:02
Speaker 1: here in studio, but when I saw this, it just
34:05
Speaker 1: seems like another scenario that is going to go epically
34:09
Speaker 1: wrong for Blake. I also was not expecting Hannah Gee
34:15
Speaker 1: to reciprocate feelings based on how things have gone so far,
34:20
Speaker 1: and not even because of the decisions that Blake made
34:22
Speaker 1: before the show, mostly because I thought her feelings with
34:25
Speaker 1: Dylan were so serious. We're just talking about last week.
34:28
Speaker 1: We thought this was a new Joe Joe and Kendall
34:31
Speaker 1: of of the franchise. But again, I guess Kendall kind of,
34:34
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't that into Joe for a while either.
34:37
Speaker 1: What do you all think here in studio? Is this
34:39
Speaker 1: something that we should be worried about? Doesn't make sense.
34:43
Speaker 1: We're we're expecting this. I feel like everybody was expecting
34:46
Speaker 1: it to happen with something. Hannah's beautiful, so she was
34:50
Speaker 1: gonna be a hot commodity. Blake is kind of treating
34:54
Speaker 1: us like he's he's running Island, so he's already been
34:57
Speaker 1: kind of dating a bunch of girls. Thankes suspected it,
35:01
Speaker 1: but I don't like it at all. I doubt many
35:04
Speaker 1: people do. And that's what that's the things that kind
35:07
Speaker 1: of like is a little bit concerning here is I
35:09
Speaker 1: bet it's just confusing for me to think of how
35:13
Speaker 1: good of a relationship she has currently with Dylan mhm,
35:19
Speaker 1: and yet she's okay moving on from Dylan to Blake.
35:24
Speaker 1: And and let's take what Blake has done in the
35:26
Speaker 1: past out of the equation here. That's not what what we're
35:29
Speaker 1: talking about. It's just the Dylan Hannah relationships seemed so good,
35:32
Speaker 1: and it seemed like they kept having these conversations that
35:35
Speaker 1: got them to this point where I bet Dylan was thinking, oh,
35:39
Speaker 1: we're in a committed relationship, like this is this is
35:41
Speaker 1: something we're moving on for. And then all of a
35:43
Speaker 1: sudden he looks up again and his he's getting you know,
35:47
Speaker 1: his his his heart's a little broken. I think that, Um,
35:50
Speaker 1: we haven't really, I mean, we've seen this a lot before,
35:52
Speaker 1: when people start off really early on, like we had
35:55
Speaker 1: Jade and Tanner. They started like Tanner was literally in
35:58
Speaker 1: love with Jade the first time he saw her, and
36:00
Speaker 1: that really scared her because she's like, so I'm just
36:01
Speaker 1: supposed to give you my heart week one, count myself
36:05
Speaker 1: out for the rest of the game. That is a
36:07
Speaker 1: little scary. Even when you go on a date with
36:09
Speaker 1: somebody and they're like, hey, I want to keep pursuing
36:10
Speaker 1: you. You You kind of like take a step back me
36:11
Speaker 1: and like, WHOA do I want to all of a
36:13
Speaker 1: suden just be exclusive with you, like after our first
36:15
Speaker 1: date kind of a scenario, because that's essentially we did
36:17
Speaker 1: think about these are happening in days, it's not weeks
36:20
Speaker 1: have gone by. And then we had that with Kendall
36:23
Speaker 1: and Joe Kendall really back pedaled and was like, this
36:26
Speaker 1: is going too fast and it's making me panic. I
36:28
Speaker 1: want to explore. And she went and dated a couple
36:30
Speaker 1: other people and that killed honestly, probably the fans more
36:34
Speaker 1: so than we were. Like, you know, so I don't
36:38
Speaker 1: think that it's like a shocker, but I think that
36:41
Speaker 1: it is hard now that we know so much of
36:43
Speaker 1: behind the scenes prior to the show, that really affects
36:46
Speaker 1: the taste in everyone's mouth as to why she's doing
36:50
Speaker 1: that to Dylan. But it is also interesting that all
36:53
Speaker 1: the girls are like, choose Dylan, Choose Dylan. Yeah, it
36:57
Speaker 1: feels like doesn't have a lot of people on on
37:00
Speaker 1: Blake's team right now. Back to the paradise. Yeah, but
37:03
Speaker 1: she's going to be the one to do it herself.
37:04
Speaker 1: She's got to say, Okay, I'm over you, like you know,
37:08
Speaker 1: She's going to be curious until she finally realizes he's
37:11
Speaker 1: not who she wants. But she's got to make that decision.
37:16
Speaker 1: I want to know, though, to bring into another scenariot
37:19
Speaker 1: this when it comes to hand of gee. So let's
37:21
Speaker 1: do a little hand of ge talk right now. Um,
37:24
Speaker 1: I don't. From this episode, I'm not convinced she actually
37:28
Speaker 1: likes Dylan that much, not just because of the Blake scenario,
37:31
Speaker 1: but because she initially was open to going on a
37:33
Speaker 1: date with Jordan Kimball. Now she did later on decline it,
37:37
Speaker 1: but at first when he asked, she was said yes,
37:40
Speaker 1: which points to me that in the back of her
37:42
Speaker 1: head she was looking for something outside of Dylan. Yeah,
37:46
Speaker 1: I agree. I think she's just really, really nervous to
37:49
Speaker 1: put all her eggs in one basket. I actually think
37:52
Speaker 1: differently than you. I think she is a little bit
37:56
Speaker 1: and I don't mean this in a negative way, but
37:57
Speaker 1: like a people pleaser. So she doesn't know how to
38:00
Speaker 1: present a no without making somebody, without the fear of
38:04
Speaker 1: making somebody feel bad, even if it's hurting them more
38:06
Speaker 1: by saying yes. So she's saying yes to Jordan's make
38:11
Speaker 1: him feel good. I think she said it to be like, sure, yeah,
38:13
Speaker 1: I'll give you a shot, but I know that's not
38:15
Speaker 1: I have Dylan, do you know what I mean. I
38:18
Speaker 1: think it was kind of like she was going to
38:19
Speaker 1: be in the power position to be like, it's okay
38:22
Speaker 1: to go on this and just have fun. But then
38:24
Speaker 1: she had to take a step back, waiting, being like, Okay, no,
38:26
Speaker 1: actually I can't go just for fun because it's really good.
38:29
Speaker 1: My situation is a little complicated. What do you think
38:33
Speaker 1: it is? Why do you think Jordan Kimball has so
38:35
Speaker 1: much confidence? I mean, he came into Paradise and the
38:38
Speaker 1: wildest thing to me was that people were responding. Even
38:43
Speaker 1: the women were like, that's Jordan Kimball. Jordan Kimball asked
38:46
Speaker 1: me on a date to Paradise. Like Jordan Kimball, I
38:50
Speaker 1: don't know, like was he I mean, I know he
38:51
Speaker 1: had a big deal in Paradise last year, but like,
38:53
Speaker 1: how does he have so much confidence? Where is all
38:56
Speaker 1: this like admiration for Jordan Kimball coming from? Who gave
39:00
Speaker 1: him the mayor the title mayor of Paradise. I think, like,
39:06
Speaker 1: I don't it's willed to me that he Yeah, yeah,
39:10
Speaker 1: he gave himself that. If anything, Chris Bukowski is the
39:13
Speaker 1: mayor of Paradise. He's been around, he has the longest
39:15
Speaker 1: tenured spy. I feel like if you're the first person
39:18
Speaker 1: to be married off b I P. Then you could
39:20
Speaker 1: be like I'm the mayor because you're like, yeah, you
39:22
Speaker 1: did it. You did it right, you got married. He did.
39:24
Speaker 1: He did the dang thing. But yeah, I don't know
39:28
Speaker 1: what makes him so special. If anything. He caused a
39:31
Speaker 1: lot of drama last year with the the Chicken. The
39:36
Speaker 1: Chicken is that his name? Chicken? Oh chicken? Yeah, David Rees,
39:41
Speaker 1: he like really got into it with him. I just
39:46
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening there. It was it was like, Okay,
39:49
Speaker 1: Jordan shows the Paradise. My first reaction seeing him show
39:51
Speaker 1: up was like, oh, this is this is gonna be entertaining.
39:54
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be funny, if it's
39:55
Speaker 1: gonna be sad, if it's gonna be hard to watch
39:57
Speaker 1: or whatever, it's gonna be entertaining. It's you know, he
39:59
Speaker 1: doesn't have a alter. I also believe when I saw him,
40:03
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, he's definitely gonna shake up the
40:05
Speaker 1: Blake drama. He's gonna say in a sense, he says
40:07
Speaker 1: kind of like what Demmy does. He says whatever's on
40:09
Speaker 1: his mind. He doesn't really care for if anybody's gonna
40:11
Speaker 1: be upset with him for what he says. And and
40:14
Speaker 1: that's a great quality to have, especially on Bachelor Paradise.
40:17
Speaker 1: But I didn't expect him to shake up the love
40:22
Speaker 1: scenarios very much like I didn't see that happening. And
40:25
Speaker 1: then he gets there and even we've see Nicole saying
40:29
Speaker 1: he chose me, like, and I know it's a good
40:30
Speaker 1: feeling anytime anybody chooses you, I know that's a good feeling.
40:33
Speaker 1: But it feels like Jordan's carried some weight in Paradise,
40:38
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, it was a little shocking. And I
40:40
Speaker 1: want to know if you out there think it's a
40:41
Speaker 1: little shocking, Well, were you expecting or did you assume
40:44
Speaker 1: that Jordan Kimball would shake up the love scenarios a
40:47
Speaker 1: Paradise like he did yuh, you know, tweet us at
40:51
Speaker 1: almost from his podcast, but of course he did. What
40:55
Speaker 1: do you mean, like that's all he did last year?
40:59
Speaker 1: But but but people responded this year with interest. Oh
41:03
Speaker 1: I know why because he guy is heartbroken? No, I
41:05
Speaker 1: know why? Well, yeah, I really once a redemption story.
41:08
Speaker 1: But no, it's because everything he's saying is kind of
41:12
Speaker 1: what you stand for. Like when Christina, who he pull
41:16
Speaker 1: aside first, Chris no, Nicole who kind of started filling
41:19
Speaker 1: him on the bleak drama, and he was like, what wait,
41:23
Speaker 1: what And then he pulls aside Christina and then she
41:26
Speaker 1: tells him about how Calin was in the story. Then,
41:29
Speaker 1: so it's not only just Christina, it's actually Klin now.
41:32
Speaker 1: And then he's hearing about Tasha, so he's like, what
41:35
Speaker 1: the heck is this guy doing. He's doing fantasy sweets backwards.
41:38
Speaker 1: He's basically one night in everybody like. It's everything that
41:41
Speaker 1: girls like, thank you, thanks for speaking as a man
41:45
Speaker 1: on behalf of that. You know, it's like it's going
41:46
Speaker 1: to get the girls fired up to be like, heck, yes, yeah,
41:50
Speaker 1: you're not wrong. You're really not wrong. I think Jordan
41:53
Speaker 1: came in a really good time. It's going to be
41:55
Speaker 1: interesting to see how this plays out for him. I'm
41:58
Speaker 1: gonna be I'm gonna be shocked if Nicole um. I
42:05
Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think Nicole and Clay stay together? No?
42:10
Speaker 1: I thought you were a fan of them. No, Well,
42:12
Speaker 1: I like them both. I think they're both very sweet people.
42:15
Speaker 1: I don't know something about them. I just don't think
42:19
Speaker 1: that they like mesh well together. Wait, who do you
42:21
Speaker 1: think is reaching in that scenario? You know there's like
42:23
Speaker 1: a reacher and a settler. Do you think there's a
42:26
Speaker 1: reaching and there's a settler. I don't want to you
42:28
Speaker 1: have to answer, Um, I think Nicole might be reaching
42:33
Speaker 1: for Clay. Do you agree with Clay? Well, Clay has
42:37
Speaker 1: this like big presence about him. He's a big dude,
42:40
Speaker 1: And I think I actually think they stay together. My
42:43
Speaker 1: my guess is that they stay together, that the two
42:46
Speaker 1: of them really start to work us out. Nicole date
42:49
Speaker 1: with Jordan's um all kind of helps her realize how
42:52
Speaker 1: much she's into Clay, which is going to be exciting.
42:55
Speaker 1: The one people we haven't quite figured out yet though,
42:59
Speaker 1: is the deal and we have to talk about Blake.
43:01
Speaker 1: Blake's a huge part of this show, a massive piece
43:04
Speaker 1: of the show. He probably will be, I bet until
43:06
Speaker 1: the very end. And it's it's been interesting to see
43:10
Speaker 1: the dynamic kind of change within Paradise where it went
43:12
Speaker 1: from people finding out about what Blake did to then
43:15
Speaker 1: people really being upset about what Blake did. And actually
43:18
Speaker 1: it feels like at this point we haven't seen a
43:21
Speaker 1: lot of it, Like people aren't liking Blake as a person,
43:24
Speaker 1: like he's actually maybe feeling like an outsider. The reason
43:27
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is because we see the scene that
43:30
Speaker 1: did irritate me. Uh, not just not because I agree
43:35
Speaker 1: with what Blake did at all, I don't, but because
43:38
Speaker 1: we see the girls sitting around watching Blake kind of
43:40
Speaker 1: catch up football and play on the sand, and they're
43:43
Speaker 1: talking about him, and then he hits his toe and
43:45
Speaker 1: rips his toe nail off and they laugh. It felt weird.
43:49
Speaker 1: It felt like odd to me that people would laugh
43:52
Speaker 1: at anybody's injuries, even if you dislike them. Is that
43:56
Speaker 1: is that crazy of me? Am I missing something? No? No,
44:02
Speaker 1: I think you're right on that. It's it feels like
44:06
Speaker 1: that part maybe went a little too far, But it
44:09
Speaker 1: doesn't mean It's not like I'm like a massive deal.
44:12
Speaker 1: But what it's pointing to is to me is that
44:16
Speaker 1: the house is super upset with Blake, that they really
44:19
Speaker 1: are dislike h and that when you see kind of
44:22
Speaker 1: your worst enemy getting hurt, you do sometimes celebrate it,
44:25
Speaker 1: even if it isn't the best thing to do. So
44:28
Speaker 1: there there there is a heaviness to this. Um I
44:33
Speaker 1: want to see Blake's redemption story with his friends in Paradise.
44:37
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to happen, but that
44:40
Speaker 1: seemed to me really pointed to where he stands right now.
44:42
Speaker 1: We also see a Cam and Kalen love story play out.
44:47
Speaker 1: This was never anything. I don't know, This is never
44:50
Speaker 1: anything Caitlin. I think saw that this was This was
44:54
Speaker 1: an opportunity for her to be around another week. I
44:57
Speaker 1: think Cam with somebody she's probably somewhat interested in, and
45:00
Speaker 1: maybe just even getting to know a little bit better.
45:03
Speaker 1: And long story short, what ends up happening is that
45:08
Speaker 1: once Kaitlin the dust settles and she's around another week
45:10
Speaker 1: and she has the power. Then thenk goes Cam, you're
45:15
Speaker 1: not my guy, and he came on really strong, like
45:17
Speaker 1: his his game is not terrific. Okay, but is that
45:21
Speaker 1: his fault? Like she's not telling him otherwise. He's literally
45:25
Speaker 1: reading her poem and she's like that was sweet. You're
45:28
Speaker 1: like that's so mean. You have the power with the rose.
45:32
Speaker 1: You should be telling him, Hey, go explore other relationships. Yeah,
45:37
Speaker 1: but she wants him to give her the rose. She's
45:41
Speaker 1: in power now, she's in power. Like, I don't think
45:45
Speaker 1: she knew how to end that conversation, Like I don't
45:48
Speaker 1: think I get what you're saying, and like, you know, there,
45:51
Speaker 1: she still may be interested enough to not want to
45:54
Speaker 1: hurt his feelings completely. You don't think she's not interested
46:00
Speaker 1: at all. She's not. And honestly, it hurts everyone's heart
46:04
Speaker 1: no matter who it is. At the end of the day,
46:06
Speaker 1: that's so hard to see where he is crying over her.
46:13
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's It's one of the hardest things to
46:16
Speaker 1: watch though. And they put these scenes on where Cam's like,
46:19
Speaker 1: I mean, Cam is distraught now. It's like he almost
46:22
Speaker 1: like he believed this was something that was gonna last
46:24
Speaker 1: a lifetime and he believed this letter was a good idea.
46:27
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a good idea. I don't
46:29
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a good idea. I don't think
46:31
Speaker 1: Kalin and Cam ever even reconnect. And the rest of
46:34
Speaker 1: the show um moving on. The next scene, Nicole and
46:38
Speaker 1: Jordan are back together, are back from the date. Nicole
46:40
Speaker 1: didn't end up missing Clay. This is something that's going
46:43
Speaker 1: to happen. There's there's uh just it didn't have the
46:47
Speaker 1: connection that her and Clay had. That's going to be
46:49
Speaker 1: something to watch. And Big Mike, Big Mike Johnson, the
46:53
Speaker 1: one and only comes in the Paradise and he's not
46:56
Speaker 1: gonna wreck things, but he's gonna add to it. He
46:59
Speaker 1: takes Kalin on a date and he is giddy. I mean,
47:02
Speaker 1: this dude is giddy on this date. He says it
47:05
Speaker 1: a multiple times. It almost feels like if this relationship
47:09
Speaker 1: doesn't work out for him, that he's going to leave
47:12
Speaker 1: Paradise brokenhearted. The question then, is is Kalin ready for
47:17
Speaker 1: the attention now she's she's already accepted the attention from Cam.
47:21
Speaker 1: Is she going to accept the attention from Mike? And
47:23
Speaker 1: if she does, will she stay with him? That's a
47:26
Speaker 1: great question because he's pretty. He lays it out there
47:29
Speaker 1: already on the first date. He's like, I already like
47:32
Speaker 1: you and they kiss, you know what I mean? So
47:36
Speaker 1: for her, she has to be full into yeah to
47:40
Speaker 1: receive that. I'm worried that Mike's heart is going to
47:45
Speaker 1: be broken. And I'm worried that Mike's heart is going
47:47
Speaker 1: to be broken, and then it's gonna be really, really
47:49
Speaker 1: healed once he's announced as the next Batchelor. Okay, so
47:52
Speaker 1: I was gonna I have two questions. So we've seen
47:57
Speaker 1: it before where somebody can be on pair of dice
48:01
Speaker 1: and be the next bachelor. That happened with Colton and Nick.
48:04
Speaker 1: But does that hurt your chances at all, or does
48:07
Speaker 1: that affect your edit you get when you're on the
48:11
Speaker 1: show if they're like your chances on Paradise or on
48:14
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, sorry for Bachelor, Like, does that do you
48:18
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? Because then he has to have
48:20
Speaker 1: the most perfectly written story, so we really shouldn't be
48:22
Speaker 1: worried about Mike. Yeah, well, what you have. The story
48:26
Speaker 1: you have to have is one of heartbreak. So you
48:28
Speaker 1: have to see somebody coming in excited for love, their
48:31
Speaker 1: hearts broken, and then they're set up to be the Bachelor.
48:33
Speaker 1: And I think we've seen it work. I mean, if
48:36
Speaker 1: Nick and Colton are the two examples, it's worked because
48:39
Speaker 1: people are invested in their stories. Um. And also we
48:42
Speaker 1: see with Colton and when we forget when Colton left
48:45
Speaker 1: his season of The Bachelor, he was disliked, like people
48:48
Speaker 1: did not like him, and he goes on Paradise and
48:51
Speaker 1: his story gets a little bit worse until it gets
48:54
Speaker 1: a lot better at the very end. Um, there's a
48:56
Speaker 1: redemption there for him going into being the Bachelor, and
48:58
Speaker 1: so people forget, they truly forget that during his time
49:03
Speaker 1: on The Bachelrette he wasn't the most favorite character uh,
49:06
Speaker 1: and then on Paradise he had a couple of weeks
49:08
Speaker 1: of struggle in pain leading up to then him and
49:11
Speaker 1: him being announced the Bachelor, which obviously worked out for him.
49:14
Speaker 1: So I do think it's a way of the show
49:17
Speaker 1: is leaning towards because we are so invested into their stories. Okay,
49:21
Speaker 1: we got in this podcast with a few things quick
49:23
Speaker 1: updates just to keep everybody up to date. Mike and
49:26
Speaker 1: Callon went on the date. Uh, Wills is pushing for Katie.
49:30
Speaker 1: She I don't know what that was. It was like
49:33
Speaker 1: the weirdest It was the kind of like Will said,
49:34
Speaker 1: it didn't make any sense. One of the oddest scenes.
49:37
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was trying to break up
49:38
Speaker 1: with him and just didn't know how, but it just
49:39
Speaker 1: didn't work. They're not a thing, but Chris b and
49:42
Speaker 1: Katie kind of are leading up to Hannah g and
49:45
Speaker 1: Blake and one of the most emotionally taxing scenes in
49:50
Speaker 1: Paradise this year so far, Dylan approaches Blake and Hannah
49:55
Speaker 1: dancing on the beach. Now, I want to ask you
49:58
Speaker 1: all East and you're including in this, is it a
50:04
Speaker 1: was it a um A wise move for Dylan to
50:07
Speaker 1: go up knowing that Hannah g is somebody he's interested in.
50:11
Speaker 1: Knowing Hannah G is somebody he's dated, uh, that he's
50:14
Speaker 1: pursuing that. He has mentioned that he wants to be
50:16
Speaker 1: exclusive with and I think he believes they are, so
50:20
Speaker 1: he's acting like her boyfriend. It wasn't a wise move
50:23
Speaker 1: for him to go up to her on the beach
50:25
Speaker 1: while she's with Blake. Was that fair? Or should he
50:28
Speaker 1: have kept his distance? You should just staying away? Yeah,
50:37
Speaker 1: fight for your girl. You gotta fight for the girl.
50:39
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a good move? Like, I'm on
50:42
Speaker 1: eastern side a little bit, Like I think I would
50:46
Speaker 1: have sat back and been like, if she's not into me,
50:49
Speaker 1: then you know what this this is gonna be. Like
50:52
Speaker 1: I almost if I was Dylan, I could have seen
50:54
Speaker 1: myself in that moment going out. I'm gonna go home
50:56
Speaker 1: like this this girl that I obviously came here for
50:59
Speaker 1: that I was excluding of two I was interested in.
51:02
Speaker 1: She's not pursuing me like I'm pursuing her. It's time
51:06
Speaker 1: for me to leave. This is embarrassing for me. But
51:08
Speaker 1: you're saying, Daniel, that that you actually would like for
51:10
Speaker 1: her for him to come up to you. On the
51:12
Speaker 1: beach and say no, I like you, I'm not going
51:13
Speaker 1: to let this go this easy. So here's the thing.
51:15
Speaker 1: It depends on how much you're into that person. When
51:20
Speaker 1: I see Dylan and Hannah's relationship, Dylan is like, this
51:24
Speaker 1: is my wife, like he you can just see it.
51:29
Speaker 1: He is so giddy about her. And they only have
51:32
Speaker 1: a couple a couple of weeks. On this show, every
51:35
Speaker 1: minute counts. So if she's like walking away with with Blake,
51:40
Speaker 1: He's gonna let it happen. I'm like, no, you fight
51:44
Speaker 1: for your girl. That's who you want to be your wife.
51:46
Speaker 1: It's so obvious, So steal her away and then if
51:51
Speaker 1: she doesn't react to it, then then you take the hint.
51:56
Speaker 1: It's definitely a move that Dylan thought about and is confident.
52:00
Speaker 1: I've never seen a man on this show be so
52:02
Speaker 1: confident in and kind of the uh that type of
52:08
Speaker 1: interaction you see it often and the show set up
52:10
Speaker 1: for it, But to have that type of resolve and
52:16
Speaker 1: saying I know this is my girl. I'm gonna walk
52:19
Speaker 1: across that beach. It's gonna be awkward, and I'm gonna
52:21
Speaker 1: confront this and say I need you to talk to me. Now,
52:25
Speaker 1: did Blake do anything wrong here? That's a that's a
52:28
Speaker 1: question that a lot of listeners have written into us
52:30
Speaker 1: over the next last night. Has Blake done anything wrong
52:34
Speaker 1: in this snare by saying, Dylan, you've been with her
52:36
Speaker 1: all day. I want to pursue her, give her my time,
52:39
Speaker 1: Hannah jesus standing there at this point, So we don't
52:41
Speaker 1: know how she feels. But is Blake doing anything? I mean,
52:45
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to to hear from all of
52:48
Speaker 1: you after this podcast, But has Blake done anything in
52:50
Speaker 1: this moment that we are upset by? I don't think
52:54
Speaker 1: you can be upset at him, but I don't like it.
52:58
Speaker 1: I'm very team Hannah and Dylan. The only hard part
53:02
Speaker 1: was the dancing because then Tatia is like, oh he
53:05
Speaker 1: did that to me? And Christina's like, oh, hey did
53:07
Speaker 1: that to me? Good point. Then Hannah jee was like
53:10
Speaker 1: falling victim to it. Yeah, the dancing move done a
53:15
Speaker 1: couple of times, so like that was his that was
53:17
Speaker 1: his seduction into Oh didn't Christina say oh he done me?
53:22
Speaker 1: So that we have a lot of people racking up
53:25
Speaker 1: the credibility that this move does work, and it did
53:29
Speaker 1: because then he spins her out and spins her in
53:31
Speaker 1: and then kisses her. I mean because without like if
53:36
Speaker 1: that move isn't done multiple times with multiple people, all
53:39
Speaker 1: of us are watching it going, oh, that's that's cool,
53:42
Speaker 1: Like right, that's one of those moves we talked about,
53:43
Speaker 1: like how sweet was that moment? Right? But instead we're going,
53:49
Speaker 1: come on right, like that's that's nothing. This is just weird.
53:52
Speaker 1: I don't know, just another day for Blake, just another
53:55
Speaker 1: day for this isn't going to end well for Blake,
53:57
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think my prediction that I have
53:59
Speaker 1: zero idea, is that this is going to end, and
54:01
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of believe this. This is
54:03
Speaker 1: gonna end really good for hannah Gy and Dylan, and
54:05
Speaker 1: Hannah g is going to come to her senses almost
54:08
Speaker 1: the Ashley I, Ken Eddie Jared Haven scenario, um, but
54:12
Speaker 1: really bad for Blake. Well. I do think that Dylan
54:15
Speaker 1: thought I think he was so confident when he approached
54:18
Speaker 1: the situation because I think he thought he was saving
54:20
Speaker 1: her in a way, because I think hannah Gy hasn't
54:26
Speaker 1: been communicating to Dylan that she's interested in Blake as well.
54:31
Speaker 1: It sounds like a lot of it has been Oh,
54:33
Speaker 1: I'm here to spend more time with Dylan. So Dylan's like, oh, well,
54:37
Speaker 1: she just feels like she has to kiss him, like
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Speaker 1: Everybody wanted back to Nation's favorites. We know him the
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Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. Of course, thanks for having me, Chris.
1:01:08
Speaker 1: I want to dive in here because our listeners are
1:01:11
Speaker 1: freaking out about you being on our show. Uh. They
1:01:14
Speaker 1: have written in with a ridiculous amount of questions. You
1:01:17
Speaker 1: are a man that we've seen often on the franchise,
1:01:21
Speaker 1: but in a since that has drawn the intrigue to you.
1:01:24
Speaker 1: I'm sure most of the questions in your life revolve
1:01:26
Speaker 1: around getting asked how many times we've been on the Bachelor.
1:01:29
Speaker 1: But I want to change that and say, why do
1:01:31
Speaker 1: you continue to come on the show so many times?
1:01:35
Speaker 1: You know a lot. It's it's funny because it's probably
1:01:38
Speaker 1: a decade's worth of question, since I've been doing this
1:01:40
Speaker 1: for almost the full decade. Um. You know, honestly, I
1:01:43
Speaker 1: think since initially, you know, I started, I was young.
1:01:46
Speaker 1: I just turned twenty five when I first did the Bachelorette,
1:01:48
Speaker 1: and it was such a great experience, um, and you know,
1:01:51
Speaker 1: I felt something that I never really felt before, and
1:01:54
Speaker 1: I was able to kind of open up emotionally and
1:01:56
Speaker 1: it was just such an awesome feeling to experience, and
1:01:59
Speaker 1: I think, you know, from there on, my experience is
1:02:02
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, kept going down with a
1:02:05
Speaker 1: downward trajectory from there, and you know that's here taking
1:02:09
Speaker 1: a break from it for a while. You know, I
1:02:11
Speaker 1: always kind of held on hope to getting that feeling
1:02:14
Speaker 1: that I that I felt I was on the Bachelorette,
1:02:16
Speaker 1: so I thought, you know, be a little bit older
1:02:18
Speaker 1: and going through this so many times, I thought it
1:02:19
Speaker 1: was a good time for me to come back and
1:02:21
Speaker 1: give another shot. It's one of the interesting things that
1:02:24
Speaker 1: we found out that you're actually not the oldest person
1:02:28
Speaker 1: in Paradise. I think because you've been on the show
1:02:31
Speaker 1: for so long. We were the same age. Actually when
1:02:33
Speaker 1: we first did the Bachelorette together, we expect you to
1:02:36
Speaker 1: be you know, you just felt like you've been around
1:02:39
Speaker 1: a while. What you have if you're only thirty two,
1:02:41
Speaker 1: thirty three, thirty two? Yeah, I mean there's people in
1:02:45
Speaker 1: Paradise older than you, and so it makes sense that
1:02:47
Speaker 1: you're there. But one of our listeners wrote in they asked, uh,
1:02:51
Speaker 1: they said, Chris, if this doesn't work for you this time,
1:02:54
Speaker 1: what happens next? What are you gonna do? Will you
1:02:57
Speaker 1: go back Are you gonna go back and try to
1:02:59
Speaker 1: find somebody outside of the show, or is this gonna
1:03:02
Speaker 1: be the last hurrah for you? You know what, I
1:03:06
Speaker 1: was so convinced that the last time I did this
1:03:08
Speaker 1: was the last time. Uh well, I guess not the
1:03:11
Speaker 1: most recent time, but the time prior to this. Uh. So,
1:03:14
Speaker 1: you know, I never say never. I mean it's um,
1:03:18
Speaker 1: I would say, but this would this would this is
1:03:21
Speaker 1: my last time you know doing this, But I never
1:03:23
Speaker 1: rule it out completely. Uh. You know, it's a great experience. Um,
1:03:28
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's fun. Uh and uh you know
1:03:31
Speaker 1: it's tough to say no to And uh, I would
1:03:34
Speaker 1: say that most likely this this is my last time.
1:03:38
Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because I think for the most part,
1:03:41
Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm wrong, I haven't been able
1:03:43
Speaker 1: to see some of the old Bachelor pads. You have
1:03:46
Speaker 1: came off as a guy who's wanting love, who's searching
1:03:49
Speaker 1: for love, who's a good looking guy, who's likable, who
1:03:51
Speaker 1: makes friends in every season that you're on, but you
1:03:54
Speaker 1: quite honestly just fall a little short and it doesn't
1:03:56
Speaker 1: end up working out for you. And that's that's kind
1:03:58
Speaker 1: of been your story. There hasn't been a moment that
1:04:01
Speaker 1: I think fans have really started to dislike you or
1:04:04
Speaker 1: to reject you, except maybe when you showed up on
1:04:07
Speaker 1: Andy season and you waited outside the gate. I've always
1:04:10
Speaker 1: been intrigued about that whole experiment. Why did you do it? Like?
1:04:14
Speaker 1: What did you? Was it really you finding out when
1:04:16
Speaker 1: filming was going on and you just showed up to
1:04:18
Speaker 1: try to date and Andy. I mean it's a little
1:04:22
Speaker 1: bit of everything, you know. Of course, you know, I
1:04:24
Speaker 1: wasn't able to do that all on my own. Um,
1:04:27
Speaker 1: and I was intrigued by Andy, and I was also
1:04:29
Speaker 1: you know, more intrigued of getting back into that whole
1:04:33
Speaker 1: that whole scene. I was just kind of looking for
1:04:35
Speaker 1: something that I guess really didn't exist and I and
1:04:39
Speaker 1: honestly that was probably it was honestly a selfish thing
1:04:41
Speaker 1: for me to do on my end, you know, kind
1:04:43
Speaker 1: of taken away from that huge night for all those
1:04:45
Speaker 1: guys and for Andy of course. Um, so it was
1:04:49
Speaker 1: it was. I was sad. That was probably the worst
1:04:52
Speaker 1: moment of my of my bachelor uh my dactual life.
1:04:55
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean it happened. I can't take
1:04:58
Speaker 1: it back. And you know, here we are, Kay, you
1:05:01
Speaker 1: know if that is the worst thing to ever if
1:05:04
Speaker 1: you pursuing a person you're interested in even you know,
1:05:08
Speaker 1: when I pursued my girlfriend, now some would say it
1:05:11
Speaker 1: was in a very creepy way. I messaged her on Instagram,
1:05:13
Speaker 1: told her, Hey, don't ask too many questions because I
1:05:16
Speaker 1: don't want this to get awkward. Let me meet you
1:05:18
Speaker 1: first before how I met, how I know about you
1:05:20
Speaker 1: all these things. If you pursuing somebody like you did,
1:05:25
Speaker 1: is the worst thing you're known for this franchise and
1:05:27
Speaker 1: you've been on it how many times? Is it? Six?
1:05:29
Speaker 1: Seven times? Six? Yeah, then you're doing all right. You
1:05:34
Speaker 1: must be a pretty solid dude. Huh. Yeah. I mean
1:05:37
Speaker 1: there's been definitely a lot of ups and downs, I think,
1:05:40
Speaker 1: I think, but genuinely I wanted, you know, I want
1:05:42
Speaker 1: to do this for the right reason, as you say it. Uh.
1:05:45
Speaker 1: So there's just so much that's involved with this, so,
1:05:48
Speaker 1: you know, emotionally draining, So it's uh, you know, every
1:05:51
Speaker 1: time I've done this, I wanted to do it for
1:05:53
Speaker 1: the right reason, to meet somebody and to see if
1:05:56
Speaker 1: you know, there's someone I can have that happy ending with.
1:05:58
Speaker 1: So you know, regardless of how you do, you know,
1:06:00
Speaker 1: how you did it with your current girlfriend. You know,
1:06:02
Speaker 1: it's just it doesn't matter as long as you're finding
1:06:05
Speaker 1: your person. However it happens. I think, I think if
1:06:09
Speaker 1: it works out that way, then but ain't that I mean,
1:06:11
Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. We'd like to play a little game, um,
1:06:16
Speaker 1: your highlights and low lights. It's like to do my
1:06:18
Speaker 1: personal life. It's always a good way to start dinner.
1:06:20
Speaker 1: It's what's your highlights in the day and low lights
1:06:22
Speaker 1: in the day. So, Chris, I want to ask you,
1:06:24
Speaker 1: what is your highlights? What's one highlight from the Bachelor
1:06:27
Speaker 1: franchise that you can think of being on the show
1:06:29
Speaker 1: and one low light kind of an experience, experience that
1:06:32
Speaker 1: you've had or a moment that you've had and not
1:06:34
Speaker 1: much of and less of a holistic idea. Yeah, I think, honestly,
1:06:39
Speaker 1: the highlight of my whole career, you know, doing this stuff.
1:06:44
Speaker 1: It was honestly on the Bachelorette when I had my
1:06:48
Speaker 1: first one on one day and it was with Luke Brian.
1:06:51
Speaker 1: He had a private concept for us from down Tom Charlotte, Um,
1:06:55
Speaker 1: and that was you know, when you go into something
1:06:57
Speaker 1: you have no expectations and you have Luke Bryan performing
1:07:00
Speaker 1: for you when you're dancing in front of all these
1:07:01
Speaker 1: people in downtown Charlotte. I mean it's you know, undescribable,
1:07:06
Speaker 1: and the emotions of the feeling that you have in
1:07:09
Speaker 1: that moment, I mean it's that was definitely the highlight
1:07:12
Speaker 1: um as of right now. I mean, you can't even
1:07:14
Speaker 1: make that stuff up. Uh. As far as my low,
1:07:19
Speaker 1: that would probably be a Bachelor in Paradise too. I
1:07:23
Speaker 1: showed up pretty late in the game. Everyone it was
1:07:27
Speaker 1: pretty much you know, matched up at the point when
1:07:29
Speaker 1: I showed up, and uh, I had a little bit
1:07:32
Speaker 1: too much drink and pretty much excused myself the same
1:07:36
Speaker 1: day that I got there. So I was literally there
1:07:38
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours. Uh, you know, came and went,
1:07:42
Speaker 1: and that was probably, uh the low, the low of
1:07:46
Speaker 1: my Bachelor career. And so then this season so far
1:07:50
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and even I mean, I think it
1:07:52
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. It's not a spoiler for us. If you
1:07:56
Speaker 1: just kind of rank it and you're six times in
1:07:58
Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise, how does this season stand for me?
1:08:02
Speaker 1: This is this is the top. This is the best
1:08:05
Speaker 1: experience I've had, I think, you know, taking a break
1:08:08
Speaker 1: from all of this and kind of establishing myself more
1:08:12
Speaker 1: as a person and coming back and really doing this
1:08:15
Speaker 1: threat way and you know, at the same time, like
1:08:17
Speaker 1: you know, I am older, I'm not I have the
1:08:19
Speaker 1: experience and I've been I was able to give a
1:08:21
Speaker 1: lot of these guys to advice, you know, even some
1:08:23
Speaker 1: of the women too. U So for me, it was
1:08:26
Speaker 1: more about, you know, focusing on myself and seeing where
1:08:28
Speaker 1: I can help and seeing if there's that special person
1:08:31
Speaker 1: for me, and kind of staying out of the drama,
1:08:34
Speaker 1: which typically I'm used to being in the center of.
1:08:37
Speaker 1: So this time around, I was, you know, out of
1:08:39
Speaker 1: most of the drama and just kind of, uh, you know,
1:08:42
Speaker 1: went through the process and uh, you know, I'm really
1:08:44
Speaker 1: happy with you know that I came back and how
1:08:47
Speaker 1: everything went. That's exciting for us to hear. We're all
1:08:50
Speaker 1: pretty smiley over here. If this is the best experience
1:08:52
Speaker 1: you've had in six times on The Bachelor. We're looking
1:08:56
Speaker 1: forward to the rest of the season now because I
1:08:58
Speaker 1: want to take a second dig in to your personal
1:09:00
Speaker 1: life a little bit more. It's it's been talked about
1:09:02
Speaker 1: that you're in a serious relationship before um Bachelor Paradise,
1:09:06
Speaker 1: we almost got engaged. How did that affect kind of
1:09:10
Speaker 1: your mind going into you know, let me let me
1:09:12
Speaker 1: preface this by saying this year during the show, you know,
1:09:16
Speaker 1: kind of past relationships and current relationships are a huge
1:09:20
Speaker 1: topic coming off the hand of b season too, then
1:09:22
Speaker 1: the Bachelor in Paradise season. How did that affect you
1:09:26
Speaker 1: coming into this show? I think it helped tremendously. You know,
1:09:30
Speaker 1: I dated someone for a little over two years. We
1:09:32
Speaker 1: lived together ut in l a. Um. You know, it
1:09:35
Speaker 1: was awesome, and you know, it just didn't work out.
1:09:37
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I learned so much from
1:09:40
Speaker 1: that relationship, and you know, I was dating her literally
1:09:43
Speaker 1: right after, you know, pretty much after the last time
1:09:46
Speaker 1: I went on I was on Paradise to UM. So,
1:09:49
Speaker 1: you know, having that relationship, it was you know, we're close.
1:09:53
Speaker 1: I mean, we're definitely close, and it's just the Dotson
1:09:57
Speaker 1: completely align at the end there. But you just definitely
1:10:00
Speaker 1: matured me. And I saw a lot of pieces that
1:10:03
Speaker 1: I that I wanted a relationships. So, you know, coming
1:10:06
Speaker 1: back on you know, lots of Paradise definitely, you know,
1:10:08
Speaker 1: with that experience helped me so much. UM and uh,
1:10:12
Speaker 1: you know, I'm grateful for it, and uh yeah, we
1:10:17
Speaker 1: uh we all love a good comeback story. And it's interesting.
1:10:20
Speaker 1: I have been uh doing a little research before the
1:10:23
Speaker 1: podcast and we're on Twitter, and we found out that
1:10:26
Speaker 1: that Rob Mills and a couple of other executives kind
1:10:30
Speaker 1: of behind the scenes of the franchise have really been
1:10:32
Speaker 1: supporting your comeback and also claiming that you have a
1:10:35
Speaker 1: lot to do with the extremely high ratings right now
1:10:39
Speaker 1: from Bachelor in Paradise. How much of it is let
1:10:43
Speaker 1: me as this, do you feel like you've been all
1:10:47
Speaker 1: honesty gotten more popular as time has continued. You know,
1:10:51
Speaker 1: it's weird because at first of all, like those guys
1:10:54
Speaker 1: are great. Rob's also in my head obviously I've known him,
1:10:57
Speaker 1: you know for a decade now, and uh, you know,
1:11:00
Speaker 1: it's weird. I thought it would it would completely stay
1:11:03
Speaker 1: to lay after all these years, but it's still like
1:11:06
Speaker 1: I still you know, it's it's still the popularity is
1:11:09
Speaker 1: there that you know, there's still a little bit of attention.
1:11:11
Speaker 1: And but you know, what I was doing all this
1:11:13
Speaker 1: Instagram was barely a thing, Like it just started getting
1:11:17
Speaker 1: legs when you know, after my season the Bachelorette and
1:11:21
Speaker 1: so it was. It was a different era, and I
1:11:23
Speaker 1: feel like I don't I don't think i'm honestly, I
1:11:25
Speaker 1: don't think I'm responsible for any of the ratings currently,
1:11:28
Speaker 1: but I do think I do bring back a crowd,
1:11:33
Speaker 1: a different viewer potentially that is different than the modern
1:11:38
Speaker 1: day you know viewer. Um. So you know, I think
1:11:41
Speaker 1: it's a little different aspect of you know, I know
1:11:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people treated me and sudden you mentioned
1:11:45
Speaker 1: on Instagram saying you know they're watching. You know, it's
1:11:47
Speaker 1: good to see, you know, someone tolder from you know,
1:11:49
Speaker 1: older seasons, you know, back on here, so you know,
1:11:52
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit it brings back a little bit
1:11:54
Speaker 1: of you know, the older generation of viewers that used
1:11:57
Speaker 1: to watch this, uh, you know, a little further back
1:11:59
Speaker 1: in the day. I really do think that you are
1:12:02
Speaker 1: a story that we enjoy having around. You're kind of
1:12:04
Speaker 1: that comfort Chris. When you come back on the show,
1:12:06
Speaker 1: we say, Okay, we're familiar with this and everything is
1:12:10
Speaker 1: definitely probably gonna be not all right, and we're good
1:12:13
Speaker 1: with that, and that's what we want at a Bachelor
1:12:14
Speaker 1: in Paradise, you know, Chris, Currently on the show, we
1:12:17
Speaker 1: see you pursuing Katie we also have seen now that
1:12:21
Speaker 1: Analyse have gone home kind of blindsided by you. And
1:12:24
Speaker 1: that's the word I think she uses, is that, you know,
1:12:27
Speaker 1: she's blindsided by you. She's not thrilled. Um, Chris, can
1:12:32
Speaker 1: you explain a little bit. This is your moment to
1:12:35
Speaker 1: explain that relationship. We need to see a lot of
1:12:37
Speaker 1: it on the show, so we need you to help
1:12:39
Speaker 1: us catch it up. Yeah. You know, with Analyze it
1:12:43
Speaker 1: was tough. M You know, we did spend a decent
1:12:46
Speaker 1: amount of times together and um, you know, we had
1:12:49
Speaker 1: a decent connection, and you know, for me it was
1:12:52
Speaker 1: it was just a little overwhelming for how early on
1:12:55
Speaker 1: it was. And you know, I wanted to be very
1:12:56
Speaker 1: open minded and coming, you know, and and just six
1:13:00
Speaker 1: splore and get the middle of everybody. Honestly, I didn't
1:13:03
Speaker 1: do any research. I didn't know anybody coming onto this season, so, um,
1:13:07
Speaker 1: everyone was brand new to me. I wanted to, you know,
1:13:10
Speaker 1: give myself the opportunity to get to know everybody. Um,
1:13:13
Speaker 1: And you know, early on it was just with Analysa
1:13:15
Speaker 1: just kind of it seemed like she was a little
1:13:18
Speaker 1: ahead of me getting trying to get early serious really
1:13:21
Speaker 1: early on, and we didn't have to see a lot
1:13:23
Speaker 1: of that UM and you know, I, you know, I
1:13:29
Speaker 1: was my roast to gift and I wanted to be
1:13:32
Speaker 1: able to um, you know, keep an open mind and
1:13:36
Speaker 1: get to meet more people and at the same time
1:13:38
Speaker 1: and not lead analyze further on. You know, it wasn't
1:13:42
Speaker 1: a relationship that was going to happen past that first week. So, UM,
1:13:46
Speaker 1: it was tough. I mean, it was tough when when
1:13:48
Speaker 1: it all went down. But I was hoping you know,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: it almost was doing her ow favor, uh you know,
1:13:55
Speaker 1: uh instead of kind of waiting until the next row
1:13:58
Speaker 1: ceremony of the road ceremony after that, you know, not
1:14:00
Speaker 1: good for a rose and Alicia's can't catch a break.
1:14:03
Speaker 1: She's one of almost famous, his most consistent guests, and
1:14:06
Speaker 1: she continues to just yeah, just fall swart Man, maybe
1:14:12
Speaker 1: she can come. I felt bad. I felt bad. You know,
1:14:14
Speaker 1: she is she is, you know, one of the older people,
1:14:17
Speaker 1: and she is genuinely looking for someone. And you know,
1:14:20
Speaker 1: she got her heartbroken at the reunion show on the
1:14:23
Speaker 1: last season, So it was tough. I'm not sure if
1:14:26
Speaker 1: there was anyone there you know that was I can't
1:14:30
Speaker 1: say that for her honestly, but you know, it was.
1:14:33
Speaker 1: It was tough. Honestly, it wasn't. I struggled for a
1:14:35
Speaker 1: couple of days actually that Uh you know, so you
1:14:38
Speaker 1: know it was. It was tough all around. I'm sure
1:14:40
Speaker 1: a lot tougher for her than it was for me. Well, yeah,
1:14:43
Speaker 1: I definitely think so, because now we see you happily
1:14:45
Speaker 1: pursuing Katie. You gave your rose to Christina, but you
1:14:49
Speaker 1: have your eye on Katie and we're pumped, pumped as
1:14:52
Speaker 1: the viewers to see how this plays out. Okay, final
1:14:55
Speaker 1: questions for you, Chris as a just put your co
1:14:59
Speaker 1: ho has had on for a second? Uh, you're helping
1:15:02
Speaker 1: me with this. What couples in Paradise? Are you most
1:15:06
Speaker 1: excited to see their love story play out throughout this season?
1:15:10
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I'm really excited to see to see
1:15:15
Speaker 1: Clay and Nicole's love story play out. You call such
1:15:20
Speaker 1: a personality and plays you know, he's such a big
1:15:22
Speaker 1: teddy bear. Um, but they're they're almost I wanted to
1:15:28
Speaker 1: say opposite, but there's don't have too much in common,
1:15:31
Speaker 1: so you know, it was funny to kind of be around,
1:15:34
Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to see that play out. I'm
1:15:37
Speaker 1: really hopeful for it, and of course, you know, you
1:15:40
Speaker 1: know Dylan and Hannah, it's just like the all American
1:15:43
Speaker 1: cute kind of kind of story. And to see how
1:15:46
Speaker 1: it plays out with them, it was really you know,
1:15:49
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to that as well. Yeah. Man,
1:15:52
Speaker 1: well hey, uh, last thing, what are you up to
1:15:55
Speaker 1: these days? You can take a little second here and
1:15:57
Speaker 1: just promote whatever you have going on. Yeah, definitely. Um,
1:16:00
Speaker 1: you know, I still have my restaurant that I opened
1:16:02
Speaker 1: up back in and she got thirteen, so I have
1:16:04
Speaker 1: three in the DC area, So I came are flying
1:16:07
Speaker 1: in DC. There's there's actually one adults airport, one Reagan Airport,
1:16:10
Speaker 1: and then the flagship restaurants out in U Starlingcome Virginia. Um.
1:16:15
Speaker 1: And I also started digital agency when I was moving
1:16:17
Speaker 1: out in l a few years back called k CUM Creates.
1:16:22
Speaker 1: We do everything mostly focused on building apps and websites
1:16:26
Speaker 1: and search of marketing and all that good stuff. And um,
1:16:29
Speaker 1: just doing a lot of traveling all over the place
1:16:31
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, hustling grinding them. Where's what's your
1:16:34
Speaker 1: restaurants called? They're called Bracket Room Perfect. Well, hey, well
1:16:40
Speaker 1: we'll check those out. Final thing for you, Chris, what
1:16:42
Speaker 1: are the chances that you walk away from paradise and love.
1:16:47
Speaker 1: I would say that I walk away from paradise with love.
1:16:52
Speaker 1: All right, We'll be watching for you, buddy, things for
1:16:54
Speaker 1: coming on all right? Then? Thank you. Hey, we miss Ashley.
1:16:58
Speaker 1: We miss Ashley a ton and she's gonna be back here,
1:17:00
Speaker 1: uh in a couple of weeks. We're gonna give a
1:17:02
Speaker 1: break she needs, going on our honeymoon and do what
1:17:04
Speaker 1: honeymooners do and see what honeymooners see and experience life
1:17:08
Speaker 1: and it's fullest. We're gonna take a little break from Ashley,
1:17:12
Speaker 1: but we're gonna continue to stick around and talk about
1:17:14
Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise as often as much as you all need.
1:17:18
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1:17:20
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1:17:23
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1:17:26
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1:17:29
Speaker 1: Say something positive not negative. We don't need to read
1:17:32
Speaker 1: anything negative about any of us. But also, you guys
1:17:36
Speaker 1: were amazing last week to me. When I asked you
1:17:38
Speaker 1: to come out and say an expressive for friends or not,
1:17:42
Speaker 1: many of you did it. I hope I UM saw
1:17:44
Speaker 1: your tweet because it meant so much to me personally.
1:17:48
Speaker 1: It really encouraged me through the week last week, uh,
1:17:51
Speaker 1: and this week I want to give the directive. I
1:17:53
Speaker 1: know this is kind of two weeks ago, but Ashley's
1:17:55
Speaker 1: on our honeymoon and Jared's on there on his honeymoon.
1:17:58
Speaker 1: Reach out to both of them via so type social
1:18:00
Speaker 1: media and just tell them how much you'll love them,
1:18:02
Speaker 1: how excited you are for them to start this next
1:18:04
Speaker 1: chapter in life, and how even if you couldn't be
1:18:06
Speaker 1: at the wedding, you still are proudly voicing your support
1:18:09
Speaker 1: of this marriage and that you will stand beside them
1:18:12
Speaker 1: from this moment forward as they continue to go through
1:18:15
Speaker 1: not an easy, not always a fun um and not
1:18:18
Speaker 1: always the most exciting, but the most fulfilling ride that
1:18:22
Speaker 1: we can find with a partner in life. And that
1:18:24
Speaker 1: is a commitment to say you are mine, forever and ever. Hey,
1:18:28
Speaker 1: we saw in the teasers for this next episode, the
1:18:31
Speaker 1: battle for hannah Gee continues. Blake admits he flew out
1:18:34
Speaker 1: to Alabama to see Hannah Gee before Paradise. Oh, this
1:18:37
Speaker 1: is not gonna go good for Blake, and Deane is
1:18:40
Speaker 1: coming down, caterpillar on his face and all Hey, people
1:18:45
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