Latest / The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane / 9-15-26 - Broncos EMBARRASSED by Chiefs on MNF/Payton's precious playcalling/Broncos COULDN'T TACKLE

Transcript

9-15-26 - Broncos EMBARRASSED by Chiefs on MNF/Payton's precious playcalling/Broncos COULDN'T TACKLE · The Appetizer Hour with Brett Kane

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: This is the Appetizer Hour with Brett Cain on demand.
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Check out Brett weekday mornings at 6 on Altitude Sports
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Do you feel in a way, you know, Davis Webb,
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: first game, calm play, maybe let him down a little
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: bit with the way.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: The offense executed?
• 0:26
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely. I think the players did not make it
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: easy on him today. Pretty pitiful, actually, but He was,
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: you know, to me in the headset, he treated it like,
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: you know, he was a pro with it. He was like, hey,
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: next play, here we go, you got this. He shot
• 0:43
  Speaker 3: it with conviction. I thought he really, I mean, we
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: called exactly what we prepared for and what we wanted
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: to get to. And we just didn't execute. And then
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: we were behind and just literally, I don't think we
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: did a whole lot of good consistently enough to win
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: the game at all.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: So we can always talk about how week ones are
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: weird and you can have bad performances. The Broncos are notoriously,
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: under Sean Payton and under Bo Nix, slow starters to
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: the season, both in offensive execution and in record. They
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: have been 1-2 in the first two years. Well, I
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: think all three, actually. They've had at least two losses
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: in the first three weeks. in every year under Sean Payton.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: But here's the problem. I think it'd be a lot
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: more explainable and a lot more stomachable if the result
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: of that game came solely off of offensive miscues. It
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: would have been still disappointing, but I think far more
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: understandable if you entered... this first game of the year
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: at Arrowhead, new play caller, knowing your slow starter offensively,
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: all these different things. Kansas City always has a good defense.
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: If it was just like, hey, Bo Nix couldn't really
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: get his feet under him, new additions to the roster,
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: Jalen Waddell, it was kind of confusing on how to
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: get the offense going. The frustrating thing and what made
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: you sick in watching the game yesterday is that you
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: couldn't tackle. That's the worst part. And there's nothing that's
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: remotely close. What happens when you can't tackle is the
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: Chiefs run for a billion yards and And I've always
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: said this about football. The most helpless feeling you can
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: have as a fan is when you can't stop the run.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: When you're watching, your defense gets smacked in the mouth
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: and have no sort of answer to it. The only
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: thing I can equate it to is I don't know
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: what it's like to be like the spouse of a fighter.
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: But imagine you're watching a UFC fight and your spouse
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: is in the ring and just getting pounded. And you're
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: just outside the octagon watching it happen. That's what it
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: felt like happened to the Broncos yesterday. You know what's
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: really disappointing? The Broncos lost a game by 21 points
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: in which Patrick Mahomes was hot, steaming... Mahomes wasn't good
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: in that game at all. He started the game, what
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: was it, 2 of 12? I don't think he made
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: a throw downfield. Not a completion anyways. Everything was at
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Yes, Travis Kelsey had a 59-yard catch.
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: It was a 5-yard catch followed by a missed tackle
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: with no one else around him. We'll get to the
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: offense because there's a bunch of issues. The first one
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: is that it looked like a lot of the same old,
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: same old. Like, if you're going to make a change here,
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: I would have expected, I mean, you're taking the lay
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: of game penalties because you're getting to the line too late.
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: That's familiar. Your run past stuff was way off kilter.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: That's familiar. Not finding ways to get the ball into
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: the hands of your biggest playmakers. That's pretty familiar. Like,
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: we'll get to all that stuff in a second. The
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: problem with yesterday is very simple. The thing that you
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: rely upon most in your defense was the worst thing
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: on the field and worse than the offense. And you
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: noticed it from the very beginning. It was a pretty
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: amazing thing to watch in that Patrick Mahomes was playing
• 5:23
  Speaker 2: so poorly. So poorly. early in that game, but really
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: the entire four quarters. He's going to get the praise,
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: and I, man, I was listening to a national show
• 5:36
  Speaker 2: coming in here, and they're like, wow, I mean, Mahomes
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: is back. I mean, did we watch the same game?
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Mahomes was terrible. And it didn't matter because anytime Kenneth
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: Walker touched the football, it takes... Five different guys to
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: get him down, partly because he's a good back, yes.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: The other part was, you just didn't feel like wrapping
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: your arms around anybody. I mean, there are multiple egregious
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: examples of this from last night. But just to point
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: out a couple, I mean, one, the touchdown run where
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Jonah Ellis, there's an initial hit, missed tackle, and then
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: Jonah Ellis at the hash marks. Tries to throw a
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: shoulder into Kenneth Walker like that was going to do anything.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: And what does he do? Bounces right off of it
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: and runs in the end zone. I mean, pretty clearly
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: not going to get the job done. Or is that
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: not Kenneth Walker? Maybe it was on some dump off
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: pass or Rasheed Rice. I don't know. All of them
• 6:43
  Speaker 2: were like that. There's a couple of stats I want
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: to give you guys. And again, we'll get to the
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: offense later. This isn't offense time. This is defense time.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: And it's shocking in the results of it. Because you
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: lost the game last night and you got your butt
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: kicked because you got your butt kicked in the basic
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: football aspects of the game. It's tackling, it's discipline, it's turnovers.
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: Like all of those things put together. That's where you lost.
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: The football basics. We're totally out of whack yesterday. Here's
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: just a couple of numbers to illustrate what I'm talking about.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: The Broncos missed 28 tackles against the Chiefs in four quarters.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the average to miss tackles are
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: for a team per game. I have no idea. It
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: feels like it should take you about five weeks to
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: get to that number. 28. And in the missed tackle category,
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: here's where it all stacks up. Singleton missed five. Sternad
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: missed four. McMillan missed three. Roach three. Moss three. DJ
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: Jones two. Sertan two. Brandon Jones two. Jonah Ellis one.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: What else do we have here? Uh, who Fonga to Zach?
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: No.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: Who Fonga one, a Wazirike one, Savion Jones one. I just,
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: that is a remarkable number. And I've said this before.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: It's not always fair. And that's, it's, it's the truth.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: It's not always fair. That. The thing that your team
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: does best, offense, defense, and basketball, maybe an individual player
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: like Jokic, that you have to rely on them every
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: single game to do your heavy lifting for you. But
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: it's reality. Reality is, the offense was good in moments
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: last year. Not over the course of four quarters. A
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: magical shift in week one was probably not going to happen. Yeah,
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: I expected it to be way better than it was.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: But I also didn't expect this to look like, you know,
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: the greatest show on turf. What killed you last night
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: and what had, I mean, it's amazing how the emotions
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: can bubble up in you. Missing tackles like that is
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: basic Pop Warner football. Wrap up. These are professionals. And
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker's going to get a lot of shine, and
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: he should because he played fantastic. I'm here to tell you, though,
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think it mattered who was playing running back
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: for the Chiefs last night. They couldn't tackle anybody.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: Because that wasn't.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: That wasn't Derrick Henry being bigger and stronger and faster
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: than your defense. It was fundamentals. 28 missed tackles Monday night.
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: Here's another stat for you. In those 28 missed tackles,
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: that allowed... 247 yards. Just for the record, the Chiefs
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: had 392 total yards. So Nelly, do the quick math
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: for me. 392 minus 247. You're at about 145. If
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: you made every tackle, that's what it was. Meanwhile, 247
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: yards allowed off of missed tackles. Broncos total offense had 176.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: It's almost a miracle you only lost by 21. Those
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: numbers should not, cannot, pray to God never will exist
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: again in the history of this sport for any team
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: because I don't wish that on anybody. Zach Stevens of
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: DNVR had this last night saying, it's the third worst
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: tackling performance by missed tackle since 2018 in the entire league.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Not for the Broncos. In the NFL since 2018, the
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: third worst. And just one more for good measure to
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: throw a statistical percentage on that. They missed... 29.8% of
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: their tackles yesterday. Almost a third. So again, I was
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: fully prepared, Nelly, for today. I come in, win or loss.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: It was going to be about Davis Webb and the
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: offense and what looked different and what looked the same
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: and all these different things. And I can't. Because it's
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: hard for me to get my mind wrapped around it.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: Because that's the last thing you'd expect. Could the Broncos lose?
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I talked about this going into the game
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: last week and yesterday. Could the Broncos lose? Yeah, they
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: could lose. Kansas City's still a good team. They're playing
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: at home. All these different things, week ones, all that.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: Should the Broncos have won? On paper, I think the
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: answer is yes. I still, despite that yesterday, I think
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: they're better on paper. Like, make no mistake, guys. And
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: I want to be clear on this. All credit to
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs for bouncing off of tackles and making plays happen.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Chiefs played well yesterday. They had
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: a miserable turnover. They couldn't get their pass game going.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: But they did one thing. They played sound defense. Hey,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: interception returned to the four-yard line. They didn't take a
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: holding penalty. Third and fourth and short. No delay a game. Like,
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: all these different details were just so basic. Like, week
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: one stuff. I mean, like, week one of training camp stuff.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: And that's what's disappointing. If you lined up and the
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs just beat you up. That's one thing.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: But when it is the basics of football that you
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: failed at, that's a completely other thing. So a lot
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: more to talk about with this. I do want to
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: get into the offense at, at some point, because if
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: you were like me, hoping that rhythm of offense would
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: look different, the way it ran, all these different things. Um,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: then that was just another disappointing aspect of a miserable game.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: So a lot to discuss. We'll get some post-game audio,
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: all those different details here in just a few minutes
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: as we broadcast from the back of some Shanker Studios.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Serious lawyers for the seriously injured. And 303-504-0925. Want to
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: hear from you guys. I gave you a 15-minute monologue
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: on what pissed me off most. Throw it out to me.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: We exist for you. This is your therapy couch. Join
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: me back after this.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, Sean, what was it like for you personally, the
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: fact that the play call has been turned over and
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: you're processing it differently?
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it was just as a head coach always,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: whether you're calling the plays or you're not, you know,
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: it's regardless of who's calling the plays. When you have
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: a game like that and you're the head coach, you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: it's frustrating.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: It's disappointing.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: And I don't know that the feeling is any different,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: whether you're calling them or not, honestly.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton, after the game, talking about the offense, I
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: do want to clarify a couple of things and get
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: to these texts that are coming in. One saying, so
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: you say the Chiefs didn't play all that well, yet
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: they kicked the Broncos, but seriously? Yeah, that's kind of
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: what happens sometimes. You play an F game and somebody
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: plays a C game, then... You still get your butt kicked.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: And I'll give you a perfect example. We can all
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: agree the offense was terrible last night, right? We can
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: all agree when I tell you, statistically, it's the third
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: worst tackling performance in the league in a game since 2018.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Here's how I know the Chiefs didn't play that well.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: There was another game in recent memory. that the Broncos
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: missed tackle rate for a game was 25%. That's when
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins put up 70 on them. In this game,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: their missed tackle percentage was, what did I give you, Nelly?
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: 28 point something, right? Hold, please. Yeah, it was 28
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: point something, something. Oh, no, I'm sorry. My bad. I'm sorry. 29.8%
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: is what it was. So, yeah, the last time they
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: gave up 25% in missed tackles, the team put up
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: almost 40 more points than the Chiefs did. That's where
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if they played a quasi-clean game yesterday,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I think they got a shot to win. And by quasi-clean,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: cut down the missed tackles, don't commit penalties in crucial situations,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: and don't turn the ball over. That's clean. If they
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: did that, they would have been fine. The funny thing
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: about Kenneth Walker, you know, when somebody goes off for
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: 23 carries and 173 yards, you're kind of thinking like, man,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: D-line must have got beat up. There was a ton
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: of plays that point of contact was at or near
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, but a missed tackle then gets
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: him off in the secondary. So the Broncos were miserable
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: last night. But the funny thing is, I don't think
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: that's some sort of like the Chiefs are back thing.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: You just played so poorly. that you didn't give yourself
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a modicum of a chance. Now, I do want to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: get to the offensive side of things. Because if there
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: are certain details in which we pointed out in three
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: years of Sean Payton calling plays, these are problems, and
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: hoping that Davis Webb could fix them. Well, number one
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: would be, Can you fix the run-pass ratio? And that
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: was a resounding no. And that's frustrating because that is
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with game. I mean, we're at the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: end of the first half, and it's tied, and then
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Kansas City scores late in that half to go up seven.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: It's a one-score game. There is no reason to not
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: run the football. J.K. Dobbins, your number one back, had
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: three carries in the first half. Three. Can't happen. When
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: you're talking about a, let's see here, at the end
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: of the half, it was 17 passes to six runs.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: There was no excuse for that. And that's part of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the reason why you're taking over is to fix issues
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: like this. Make more of a commitment to the run game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It was small sample. I got to tell you.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Pretty happy with the way that R.G. Harvey ran the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: ball when he was allowed to run it. J.K. Dobbins
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: is a very good back. Give him the football. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you just didn't. There were so many drives that were pass, pass, pass, punt.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: so that's one the other thing it was getting the
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: play in earlier finding a rhythm get things moving and
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: once again it felt like there were a number of
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: different times Bo Nix was getting to the line of
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: scrimmage With little to no time on the play clock.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: They took delay of game penalties. How many times did
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: they do the Bo gets up, reads the defense, looks
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: at the play clock and goes, like, snap the football.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: We're going to be. That's another thing that you wanted
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: to see fixed. Wasn't fixed in that first game. And
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: then finally, the most important thing. I stopped keeping track
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: after halftime. The Broncos had six first half drives. Four
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: resulted in three and outs.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Four.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And let's just take a quick look at the second
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: half here. There's a four-play drive and a four-play drive
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and there's a three and out. I mean, not any better.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a 20-yard drive, a negative eight-yard drive,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: a four-yard drive, a five-yard drive, a 13-yard drive, and
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that was the end of the game. Good Lord. So
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: that was not improved either. You know, and then you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: throw on top of all of this, you bring in
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Jalen Waddell. Hey, we have this explosive new toy along
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: with Cortland Sutton. What did those guys look like? Well,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Cortland Sutton had two catches for 11 yards and Waddell
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: had one for two, including a big drop. Adam Troutman.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: had a better game than Jalen Waddle. He had an
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: equal game to Cortland Sutton. That should not happen. If
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: there's any, like, I guess, tiny detail that I could
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: point out that I actually kind of liked, I thought
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Ingram was pretty good. Big play on the touchdown early
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: in the game to get things tied up. I thought
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: he was a lot more noticeable, invisible in that game,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: but still, I mean, there's really nothing to really point to.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I just, when you're looking at the offense, you wanted
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to see some responsibility of why did we hand this
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: over Davis Webb? Well, we wanted to see this, this,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and this, and all the things that you kind of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: wanted to see in the checkmark column were not there
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: in game one. And yes, It is game one. They
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: are notorious slow starters. Bo had two turnovers in this game.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: He had two turnovers in the opener last year as well.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I think we've kind of seen this story now for
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: two straight years. Broncos just, they get out of the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: gates really slow. But you just, you didn't expect to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: see that on the defensive side. Now here's Sean Payton
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: at halftime when he's talking to Laura Rutledge. Sean, what
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: do you want to see out of Bo Nix in
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the second half?
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Well, I think the first thing we have to do
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: is rush the ball a little bit more efficiently. That'll
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: take some pressure off him right now. You know, we've
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: been in kind of a pass mode. I think it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the opposite for Kansas City. They've been able to run
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the ball. I think that needs to switch a little
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: in this second half.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: How's it been not calling plays for you?
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: Ask me in another half here.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: All right, we will.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: All right. Thanks, Laura. Here's the thing. I think that
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Sean did a really good job in that interview. You
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: could see the seethe that was inside of him. He
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: did a really good job of being like, yeah, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: think we should run the football more. Ha ha, ha ha.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: We got into kind of a pass mode there in
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: that half. Maybe we should change things. Ha ha. Big
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: smile on his face. Good job of keeping that all internal.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Funny thing is, out of all the people, when Sean
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Payton's like, hey, we should run the football more, it's like, yeah. Yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: you should. You know, this is just the rarities of yesterday.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: One being your defense couldn't tackle. Here's the other. I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Bo Nix look that uncomfortable in the pocket
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: since maybe early in his rookie season. And I'm just
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: trying to look through right now. I think this is
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: going to be the case. That Bo Nix was sacked
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: four times last night. Yeah, it's only happened two other
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: times in his career. I mean, that is entirely rare.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: One instance came in a 41-10 loss against Baltimore, his
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: rookie season. The other came last year, the final game
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: of the year against the Chargers. That was, I mean,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: the Chargers packed it up. Broncos won 19-3. but a
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: game that really didn't matter. For him to get sacked
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: four times, and I think his sack numbers from last year,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: he was sacked 22, I want to say, total. I mean,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: he almost got a quarter of the sacks that he
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: took all of last season in in the first week. So,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, just everything was out of whack. And a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: texture points this out. Colin Cowherd, and I've always said this,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: when Cowherd says something about the Broncos or about Sean Payton,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: listen to him. Whether you like Colin, hate Colin, whatever.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: The dude's plugged in with the Broncos because he's boys
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: with Sean Payton. And he said last night, Sean Payton
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: is going to tire of either Davis Webb or Bo
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Nix or both. The roster is too good for this mess.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty heavy overreaction to one week
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: of the season. Again, am I frustrated this morning? Yes.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Do I still think the Broncos will be fine? Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to miss, you know, 30
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: tackles every single time they go out there. Or whatever,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: what was it, 28? I don't think they're going to
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: miss that many tackles next week. It might look a
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: lot like the Dolphins. Remember what happened in that Dolphins game?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: They put up 70 points. Everybody's looking at Vance Joseph.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: you know, crazy. And shortly after that, the defense figured
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: it out and played really well. I think the same
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: thing's going to happen here. It was just everything that
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: could have gone as bad as possible in that game did.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: And Brett, I actually have a question for you about
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the play calling. So same thing. Sometimes when I drive
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: into the station, I like to listen to various national
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: shows just to hear what the pulse around the sporting
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: world is. And One of the shows brought up a
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: good point, so I'm going to go back and play
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: that soundbite that I opened the show with where Bo
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Nix was asked, do you feel like you let down
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Davis Webb playing like such booty cheeks in his play-calling debut?
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: The reporter didn't say those exact words, but I'm paraphrasing,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: and there's one part of his answer I want you
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: to listen to.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I think the players did not make it easy on
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: him today. Pretty pitiful, actually, but he was, to me
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: in the headset, He treated it like, you know, he
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: was he was a pro with it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, next play.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Here we go. You got this. He shot it with conviction.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: I thought he really I mean, we called exactly what
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: we prepared for and what we wanted.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: To get to. Right there.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: We called exactly what we wanted to and what we
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: prepared for. And so what the national show said is
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: that's not just Davis Webb. You know who made the
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: game plan?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton. Oh, sure, yeah.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: This was still Sean Payton's game plan, even though Davis
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Webb was calling some of the plays. He was the
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: one saying, X-stick looky, white, tight right, spider two white banana.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: This was still Sean Payton's blueprints, especially on that third
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: play of the game when Bo Nix threw that interception.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: They were doing the 12 to 15 scripted plays that
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton put in place.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: So for all the hell that Davis Webb is going
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: to catch in the next week, Sean Payton's not blameless here.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? I hear that. We knew going
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: into this that Sean Payton wasn't... When you give up
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: play-calling duties, you don't give up.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Any aspect of being involved in the offense. That goes
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: for any offense in the NFL. If your head coach
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: is not the play-caller, they are still involved in the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: game planning. Jim Harbaugh doesn't call the plays in L.A.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel does.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is very involved in how the offense goes.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: That applies to every team across the league. But when
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you're the one that's got the play sheet and you're
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the one communicating to your quarterback during the game, you're
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: going to get the bulk of the heat. That comes
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: with the job and that comes with the territory. You know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Davis Webb stayed here and signed up for this. So
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think he can cry foul or anybody can
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: cry foul on his behalf when things don't go well
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: and say, well, I mean, Sean Payton's still very involved
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: in this. It's like he knew that, and we all
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: knew that. Bottom line is, in virtually every aspect of
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the game, it does feel like the Broncos were just
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: wholly unprepared. And I got a theory on maybe how
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: you can fix it. I don't know. We'll get to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that in just a couple of minutes. But One thing,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: another thing that looked very similar to what we saw
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: under Sean Payton is, you know, I noticed RJ Harvey
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: would be in the game, he'd have a nice run,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and then the next play he's subbed out and in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: comes J.K. Dobbins and this whole new package comes in.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I do think that just eats up a lot of time.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And not that you can't do it, but I think
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: that puts a lot of stress on Bowe. It's like,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: all right, is everybody in the huddle? Let me count
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the guys. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven. Okay,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: we're good. Here's the play. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Get up to the line. Oh, crap. Eight seconds left.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: All right, let me read the defense real quick. All right,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: snap the ball, snap the ball, snap the ball. I
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: just think there's a lot of that happening. And that's what,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you know, preseason's a preseason. But I thought at least
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you got a little bit of a look at maybe
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: a different rhythm to the offense, and that's not what
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: you saw yesterday or last night. That's not what happened.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: But again, there's so much of that game that went
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: so wrong that it's almost hard for me to take
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: this seriously moving forward. Like when the defense plays as
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: poorly as they did, and when I say poorly, there
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: were aspects of the defense... They were pretty damn good. Like,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: they gave up nothing in the pass game. At least, like,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: through the air. Once somebody caught the pass, two yards
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: past the line of scrimmage, different story. But the basic
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: tackling stuff, it's something that I want to get to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: on maybe you have to look at doing business a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: little bit differently before the season starts. And we'll explain
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: in just a couple of minutes. Reminder to you guys.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Number one against number two, Cherry Creek visits Valor Friday night.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: We've got the showdown live at 7 on Altitude Sports
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Radio 92.5, brought to you by Wings Credit Union and
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Sport Clips back after this. So here's what I was
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: thinking about. When you have now two different instances in
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: the Sean Payton era of beginning of the season, a
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: game like that happens, and when I say like that,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: When you miss this many tackles, when you aren't fundamentally
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: sound on the defensive side from a tackling standpoint, it
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: was this game last night, and it was back in 2023,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the Miami game, in which he gave up 70. So
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: in the Miami game, they had a missed tackle percentage,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: a rate of 25%. Last night, it was 29.8. It's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: almost unfathomable in this sport. So you have to ask yourself, well, why?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Is the defense bad? No, we know that. We know
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: this defense isn't just good, it's great. They returned everybody
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: from last year outside of John Franklin Myers. He wasn't
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: responsible for an extra 20-some tackling percentage points. It was
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: still Alex Singleton and Justin Sternad and Riley Moss and
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Pat Sertan and Tufanga and Brandon Jones and Nick Benito
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and Zach Allen and everybody else. Still all those same guys.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: So what is it? And it's sort of like not
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a taboo subject. It's just something that I think it's
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: been so beaten into the ground of like it's not
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: what it used to be. that it's kind of boring
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: to discuss at this point, but I do think it's true.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: When you don't practice tackling, and then the season starts,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and out of the gates you have trouble tackling, I
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: think there's a correlation there. And I don't know what
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the proper way to handle it is. I know there's
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of rules in training camp now about
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: how much you can have contact and full padded days
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and all these different things. But I think about it,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: it's one of the only things that happens on every
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: single snap in an NFL football game. It's just basic tackling.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It's that and the center quarterback exchange. Those are two
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: things that happen every play. And I'm just like, think
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: about if you just didn't practice snapping the football. you
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: might be a little bit rusty when the season starts. Now,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: is that something you can go back and change? And
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: this is a discussion, I guess, for, you know, nine
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: months from now. But it is something that hit me
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: last night in which I'm watching a good defense lose
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: the basic part of what this sport is, which is
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: wrap up in tackle. And it was just bizarre to me.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: You know, Troy Aikman in the middle of that game said,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I think the rule is you're allowed three consecutive padded
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: days and then you have to have a non-padded day
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: or something like that. He said the Chiefs are going
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: three padded days, one off, three padded days, one off.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, they were doing that. And the Broncos did
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: it marginally, I would say in camp, certainly more than
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: what Hackett did. But I just wonder, if you don't
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: practice the one thing that's necessary on every single play,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I think you can come out of the gates and
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: look the way the Broncos did. And a texture chimes
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: in saying, can we stop with the nonsense about the
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Chiefs not having it anymore? Listening to Denver radio this
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: past week as if the Chiefs were the Browns. Okay,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're listening to this show. I
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: don't know what other shows you're talking about. I don't
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: think anybody referred to the Chiefs as the Browns on
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: this show, and I'll speak on this show's behalf. I
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: am somebody that said the Chiefs don't put the fear
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: of a football behemoth superpower anymore. They're a good football team.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: They're good. But here's the funny thing. You look at
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs last night and tell me, do the Chiefs
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: strike you as a team that in every aspect of
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the game just worked the Broncos or were the Broncos bad?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Like horrible at the fundamental part. I'll remind you, that
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: game with just a couple of minutes left in the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: first half, despite how poorly the Broncos were tackling, There was, what,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a minute 40 left in the second quarter? It was
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a 7-7 football game. Why? Because Patrick Mahomes was 2
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: of 12 throwing the football. Like, I don't think that
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: this is all something of like, well, the Chiefs are back.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I think the Broncos played horribly... And if they played
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: a normal C football game, I think that goes down
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to the wire. Mahomes was terrible. And I think anybody
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: looking at that game objectively would see the same thing.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: The problem is your defense and your quarterback was worse.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: When you miss 30% of your tackles, that's worse than horrible.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: That is.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: In at least recent memory, how would you call it?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Recent all time. Since 2018, if time started in 2018,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: it would have been all time terrible. Yeah, I don't
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: come away from that game at all thinking, oh, wow,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: everybody was wrong about the Chiefs. The Chiefs are so much.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: They're so back and they're going to be, they're a
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: good football team like we all thought they were. But
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you lost the game because you didn't execute fundamentally. So, anyway.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: That's actually says losing a game by 21 when a
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: top five quarterback ever played terrible is disheartening. That's the
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: entire thing that I'm saying here. Like you lost by
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: 21 and Mahomes was bad. And just to put, oh, God,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: we can't even talk about this today, can we? Maybe
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: this is a later in the week thing. Can't be today.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Before the game starts, Schefter jumps on. Well, we'll talk
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to him at 920 this morning. Schefter jumps on and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, by the way, Drew Brees was thinking
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: about playing for the Broncos last year in the AFC
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: championship game. You're like, wait, what'd you just say? So
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: there's an entire other conversation I want to have about
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: that specific subject. And I don't know if today's the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: day for it. Maybe at 920 with Schefter. I mean,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: he was the one who brought us the story before
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the game last night. But that was just a weird wrinkle.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: To anything. To everything before the game started. I just
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: look at this game as really a complete failure in
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: like every aspect of it. And I know the Broncos
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: feel that way, and I don't think this is some
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: sort of indictment on the Broncos and what they're going
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: to be this year. I think it was a really
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: crappy game the first game of the year. And if
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you go back to the Broncos history, especially under Sean Payton,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: this has been a theme. Okay? Like, go back 2023
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson. Yeah, with Russell Wilson. You lose to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the Raiders 17-6. Terrible. The first week of Bo Nix's career.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: You lose to Seattle 26-20, and that game wasn't even close.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: You win last year to Tennessee, but that was a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: miserable game. If you played anybody but Tennessee that first week,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that might have resulted in a loss. In each year
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: under Sean Payton, you've lost at least two of your
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: first three games. In year one, it was all three,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: culminating with that Miami Dolphins loss, 70-20. In year two,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: you lost the first two games before winning in week three.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Last year, you won the first week and then you
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: lost to Indianapolis in the Chargers in the next two weeks.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And in all those games, over the first two years
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: of his career, Bo Nix has looked pretty bad in
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: those first six games combined. This is another example of it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But the biggest difference in this game was the defense
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: just didn't look prepared for the moment at all. And that...
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: is what blew me away. The one thing that you've
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: relied upon each of the last two years to sort
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: of be the foundation, the base of your success has
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: been good, solid defense. And in that case last night,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: it was the worst thing on the field. Couldn't get
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a stop. So 3-0-3, 5-0-4, 0-9-2-5. One game down and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: there's already plenty to talk about with the Broncos. DMACC
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: and Coach Sanford break down the tough season opener tonight
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: on Altitude Football. You can watch live on YouTube. Just
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: search Altitude Sports Radio and hit subscribe so you never
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: miss a show as those boys are going to be
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: doing that throughout the football season, breaking down everything Broncos
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: after these games wrap up. So, again... There is so
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: much to discuss with this game. Adam Schefter is going
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: to join us at 920. I was fully prepared for
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: today to be mostly about Davis Webb, brand new offense,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: win or lose, how did that look and what happened.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: And instead, I'm talking about tackling. That's what we're talking about. So,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a lot more to discuss. You can watch on Twitch,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, or on Altitude Television. Moe's Lombardian Cane starts next.