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B Nick Energy on Music, Live Instrumentation, and the Transformative Power of Podcasting · The Scene Projects

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  Today, we're joined by BNick Energy, Boston's own producer with drums that knock, melodies
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  that move.
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  We're talking process, placements, and the hustle.
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  Stay locked in.
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  BNIC Energy starts now.
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  Welcome Welcome in to another exciting episode of the scene.
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  I'm your host Bubba Starts, and with me today is my brother, b Nick Energy.
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  Welcome to the show, brother.
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  Hey.
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  Thank you for having me, bro.
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  I appreciate it.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I know you're sneaking in on vacation and getting some work done with me today, so I
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  appreciate it, man.
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  Hey.
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  I need time.
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  Well, you're a busy man, producer, podcaster, live streamer.
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  You do a lot of stuff.
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  Before we get into all of that, I'd love to give you the floor here and just let you give
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  us a little bit of backstory.
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  Well, I also own my own security staffing firm.
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  I do music festivals like Coachella, Lollapalooza, iHeartRadio, Jingle Ball, stuff
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  like that.
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  So music is in my life twenty four seven.
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  I donated a kidney to my best friend of twenty three years to his son, and I'm not gonna lie
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  going to a dark time after music saved my life.
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  As somebody who's a streamer, I am part of a large family in the streaming community called
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  MSL, which is music saves lives.
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  I've been a streamer for about two and a half years.
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  I started podcasting about five months ago and have had a lot of success.
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  And I've loved music since I was a kid.
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  When I was in fourth grade, I started with the violin for two years, then I went on to the
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  saxophone for another two years, and then I moved on to the piano in high school, which is
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  probably what makes producing music for other MSL members so easy because I'm multitalented
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  with different instruments.
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  Man, incredibly moving with you donating a kidney to give someone another body part that
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  you may need.
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  Right?
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  I think that's the ultimate form of sacrifice.
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  So good on you for that, incredible story.
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  And we're gonna have to have you back on one of our longer episodes of, Get Better Together,
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  another one of our shows.
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  And we're gonna dive into that whole thing and how someone is compelled to, I mean, that's
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  that's deeper than friendship.
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  That's family.
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  You know?
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  And to save someone else's life, that's incredible.
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  You're a busy man, and music is not just, like, part of your life.
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  I would say that music is your whole life, and you found a way to kinda carve out a living and
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  something to do inside of that in so many different ways.
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  What part is there a part that's more important to you?
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  Because everything kinda feels like it ties together neatly, but is there one thing that
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  means more than the other ones?
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  I would have to say, you know what?
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  Of course, I'm gonna say my my security staffing firm, right, that's given me my
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  living, you know, been able to do everything from my daughter.
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  But, like, I mean, outside of putting what I make a living aside, I love producing music.
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  It is something I live for.
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  I enjoy when I'm playing around with beats.
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  And then I go to an artist that's in my family who's trying, you know, various artists that
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  are trying to get discovered, and they're like, hey.
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  I like that beat.
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  Can we do something with that?
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  That's the you know, when it comes together, it's a different type of feeling.
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  It's like that no hit it's like that no hitter feeling.
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  Right.
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  Of course, you're gonna be a big baseball fan from the Boston area.
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  I I don't get that feeling as much.
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  Right?
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  I'm a campfire strummer.
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  I'm a songwriter myself, but I don't necessarily get that collaborative, juice.
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  Right?
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  I don't get to kinda create something on my own that I really like and then kinda bring it out
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  to someone else.
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  They listen to it, they're like, I'm gonna put some of me into that.
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  Now I get that in a live setting sometimes when I play shows and perform like that, but I'm
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  finding myself more and more kinda jealous of the producers and the, you know, people who
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  have have always collaborated with other people in creating music.
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  I'm always kinda been a little bit jealous of bands in that way, but now that I have this
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  show and we've interviewed over 300 artists and seeing the collaboration between producer and
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  and songwriter or, you know, rapper or whatever you wanna call, you know, different, you know,
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  singers and different genres of music, I think it's really cool.
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  And I think that it it kinda doubles the good feelings that you get because you're not now
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  just making something for yourself, but you're also making, you know, that for that other
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  person and going out into their crowd and whether, you know, there's a bunch of people
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  listening to it.
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  It it it's really cool to share that art with someone.
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  It does.
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  It does.
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  And a big thing I like is when I'll do something on, like, the computer, I'll put
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  together a beat.
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  And then I love it when I go to, say, somebody who's in the hip hop genre that's part of MSL,
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  and they're like, you know what?
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  I like that, but, like, I'm Nick, I like something with some instruments in it.
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  Some people like that instrument sound.
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  And to be able to turn around and put a little piano in it, and then all of a sudden, I've had
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  now added to a beat that now someone is gonna put words to is an amazing feeling.
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  Or I'm gonna play maybe a little bit of violin, put a little bit of, you know, piano in it, and
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  it all comes together, and that's what I really enjoy.
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  Do you play the violin live on tracks?
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  I have.
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  That's sick.
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  I have.
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  I I have added a little bit of violin to some tracks.
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  I've added a little bit of saxophone to some tracks and definitely piano.
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  Man, and those are three instruments that I love that I have never I mean, I can I can
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  press the keys on a piano, and I can make a few things sound good, but I've never been able to
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  really play that?
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  I play guitar, and, you know, I I played drums in concert band back in, you know, grade
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  school, elementary school.
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  But I I've guitar has been my main instrument for for a long time now.
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  So really incredible.
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  Those are you know, they just add so much, especially the saxophone.
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  It is one of those instruments that nothing else sounds like it, and it always adds
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  something.
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  No matter what genre of music it is, it adds something to whatever that song is.
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  So very very cool that you're able to not just produce the beat on a keyboard, right, and to
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  add that sound, but to actually add the instrumentation and the playing of that
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  yourself.
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  I think that's really awesome.
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  You know what?
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  It there's so many, like, I so many producers that put artificial music in, but you
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  definitely hear the difference between someone who actually when you hear it enough, you can
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  tell the difference of someone who digitally added it and somebody who's legit playing it.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm a live music guy.
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  So so I wanna hear, you know, people playing instruments.
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  I wanna see that when I go out to watch a show.
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  That that's what I appreciate.
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  Because to me, that shows a dedication that you've had to that.
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  I know from learning my own instrument how hard it is to learn how to play something.
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  So there's an extra level of dedication to someone who who's playing a live instrument,
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  whether it be in the studio or or live on stage.
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  So I can definitely appreciate the hell out of that, man.
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  Yeah.
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  I and I'm trying to learn the guitar now.
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  Like, that's my next thing.
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  I'm sure you're gonna have no problem figuring it out, dude.
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  If I can figure it out, you surely can.
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  Would love to talk about, your streaming platform and kind of that life.
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  You say you've been at it for a few years now.
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  What was kind of the impetus for starting in the streaming world?
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  So I had just donated my kidney, and I was a dater on Fish.
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  Okay?
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  And little enough did I know that PlentyOfFish had added a live streaming section, which they
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  were at the time linked with MeetMe, and MeetMe is where I'm at now.
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  The and MeetMe has a very big streaming community.
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  I mean, to the point that they have some gifters that drop 20 and $50,000 a month.
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  And, like so I started just for the the whole sake of, like, having a community while I was
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  getting back on my feet, getting back, you know you know, in shape and and getting my mindset
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  right because, you know, it was rough after, and I had some complications.
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  And I you know, the live streaming community was really me just looking to put together some
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  friends outside of my friend circle.
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  And it ended up becoming where I never imagined I'd be in twenty five million club.
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  I'd be in the top 1,000 streamers at 7,000,000, and I just built a following that I have now
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  brought to my my podcasting career.
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  I got into streaming, like I said, to just have people there and making people laugh was what I
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  enjoyed.
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  And then music got incorporated, and then I enjoyed having both aspects in the streaming
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  per world.
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  Yeah.
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  That's incredible, man.
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  That's something that you dug into a community because you need support now, and I know you've
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  mentioned it several times, the music saves lives group that, you know, now you're helping
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  other people.
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  Right?
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  And it became this whole incredible community now, and that's really cool.
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  I don't know that I'd ever heard of the app or this platform before.
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  I'm a very I'm a little bit older too, so I come from a very real you know, in real life
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  kind of situation.
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  But I love communities, and I love meeting new people.
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  So I'm gonna have to get on MeetMe and start digging around and hanging out with you and
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  your crew.
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  You should.
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  I would love it.
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  You would enjoy.
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  There's so many artists and so many people that are amazing artists.
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  Amazing.
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  Like, I I mean that.
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  Like, you know, I guess everybody kinda tries to go, like, the b o b way and how b o b was
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  discovered off Myspace.
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  So so many artists are now taking it to the streaming world, And they try to avoid TikTok
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  and favorite it, which are two other, you know, big streaming platforms.
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  And they try to come to the next level of streaming platforms where they can be a
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  musician and people can enjoy that.
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  That's awesome.
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  So, yeah, we we don't do much of our stuff live.
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  I record most of our episodes like we're doing today where I'm producing it live, I'm doing a
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  poor job of that.
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  I'm not running my banners and everything.
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  But but we started doing a live show every Wednesday at 9PM on our network called Love
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  Noise, where we feature a an artist.
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  Mostly, they've been guests on the show before, but, they're able to come in and share some of
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  their songs.
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  And we talk about the stories behind the songs and not necessarily just like a conversation
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  like we're having today where we're just kinda getting to know you a little bit.
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  And in that ring, we're actually playing their music live in the show, and that's been a huge
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  success for us.
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  You know, we're not in the 25,000,000 streams category or anything yet, but we're having a
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  really good time doing it and just spending some time with the artists that we've been
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  getting to know on our show.
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  We're relatively new, especially in the video podcasting space.
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  We've only been at this maybe for nine months.
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  I've only been podcasting for, like, eighteen months.
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  Right?
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  So we're pretty new to this space, and it really just developed completely organically
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  through that.
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  So I I love getting introduced to new platforms where we can dip in and kinda share what we do
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  and who we are.
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  And and I hate the social media stuff, man.
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  It's such a tough nut to crack with all of these.
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  I mean, we've been able to amass a quarter million views on our YouTube page at this
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  point, but it hasn't turned into a community.
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  Right?
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  Like, yes, there's people that see our stuff when they're just grazing by, you know,
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  scrolling away on their phone, but there's not real connections happening there yet.
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  So we're looking to always grow in different areas where we can connect with people because
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  I think that's where, where we really do our best work at is connecting with individuals
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  like you and all of these different artists that, you know, that you're working with and
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  that are on MeetMe as well.
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  We can't wait to get over there.
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  See, and that's my thing.
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  They would love having you someone like you over there.
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  But, like, to me, that's where I'm at.
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  I like that genuine that genuine organic love.
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  And that's what I also like is I like people who engage.
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  So I do a lot of times use Podbean for my podcast where I can do a live chat and be able
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  to record it as well.
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  And I love it because there's times that, yes, I only get five people, but I've ran chats
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  while I'm live that have had up to 500 viewers.
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  And I try to build as much connection as I can.
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  I try to tell people, you know, leave a comment or talk or, you know, I like to engage with
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  people.
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  Hey.
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  If there's a topic you want me to cover, just DM me.
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  I'll do it.
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  Like, I'll give you my perspective on it or we can cover that.
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  So now in my podcasting career, I'm five months in having success.
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  I have two sponsors.
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  I have my own signature energy drink with Swift Energy, And now I'm trying to bring in
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  different people that I'm now bringing from the music, the podcasting, you know, people that
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  are, you know, psychic mediums, gamers, and I'm trying to bring everybody in so everybody gets
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  some exposure.
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  Man, that sounds like a blast.
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  And that's a lot of what drove us was that a songwriter myself, but when I released a new
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  song back in February '24, I had done the local news station, and I had done, you know, a
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  couple of the podcast of friends that I knew, but it was like it was two.
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  It was two and the local news, and then, like, the whole media tour was over.
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  And I realized that there was a huge need for people that were going to promote independent
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  artists.
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  And I became a member around the same time of the Midwest Country Music Organization.
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  And when we went to the award show, this was just maybe a month after I'd kinda got my
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  microphones and my little Zoom p four setup.
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  And I was like, well, we're taking them with us, and we're gonna sit down and we don't know
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  anyone.
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  So how are you gonna meet people?
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  Well, you provide value to them.
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  Right?
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  You're able to say, hey.
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  Come and talk with me for five minutes.
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  We're gonna put it on our podcast, and we did 25 interviews that night.
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  We made a bunch of friends.
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  Some of them well, most of them, all of them are still members that we're friends with
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  today.
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  And then last year at the award show or this just this last April, we won the content
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  creator of the year award from the organization because we serve that community.
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  Right?
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  And and people saw what impact that was having out there in the world.
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  So this year, we were on the red carpet, and we did 35 interviews, you know, in in that hour
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  and a half.
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  So amazing.
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  It's been thrilling, man.
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  And I'm just an in real life person.
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  That's just how I've lived.
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  I'm 39 years old.
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  Most of my life was not online prior to starting this, you know, video and streaming,
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  you know, podcast in the last nine months or so.
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  So it was just natural for me.
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  And since then, we've covered Rock the Country Music Festival.
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  We're out at the Buffalo Chip Campground in Sturgis, South Dakota for ten days shooting
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  content.
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  We, got to interview hall of famers, Ronda Barber and Chris Carter at a PGA tour event.
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  We have done you know, we've interviewed rock and roll hall of famers.
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  We've just like and that's mostly because I know how to, like, work live events.
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  Right?
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  So where I'm new to the streaming side, I kinda know how to maybe get myself into some pretty
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  cool live events as now media and and to be able to cover that.
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  So we've been teaching other people like, hey, man.
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  These are the opportunities that are out there for you as a podcaster that maybe you're not
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  thinking about because you're not thinking of yourself as the media.
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  Right?
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  Like, you are no small fee, and you see that.
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  You're you have advertisers and you have, you know, your own energy drink and everything
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  going on that a lot of people in the podcasting world that have been doing it for ten years
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  have never had.
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  So it's really cool to see the rapid movement that you've had into the the mediascape and and
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  how you're taking advantage of it, man.
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  It's freaking awesome.
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  Well, you know, it's I'm I'm waiting for jingle ball because I I feel like then I will be more
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  comfortable to start doing those, like, you know, like, I've been I'm always around
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  musicians.
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  That's my business, and I'm always backstage.
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  And, you know, I've said hi to people a million times like, the g e z or jelly roll.
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  I've never thought about interviewing them.
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  Then we just had this conversation the other day.
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  My best friend was like, dude, I googled you your podcast, and, like, it's saying you gained
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  significant traction.
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  It's talking about you've hit 2,000 views in a week.
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  He's like, dude, start putting some of the music stars that you're around on.
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  I said, I'm still a little fish.
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  I don't know if they wanna talk to me.
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  And they'd love they'd love to.
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  And that because, honestly, they don't even the big stars don't have enough places to go on and
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  publicize there are anymore.
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  Because attention is so divided between all the different social media and and all of these
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  areas that there isn't one point to go through, and you never know when somebody's gonna crack
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  and be the thing.
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  So you kinda wanna be with as many of those people as you can because we don't know who's
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  gonna be the next big thing at this point.
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  There's really no way to gauge that.
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  So, yeah, man.
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  Start carrying a little microphone setup with you and and a little camera or something and
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  just like, hey, Jelly.
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  Dude, can I get three minutes, man?
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  Come on.
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  You know?
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  Because you're already and that's what's cool about your your business, right, is that you're
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  already hanging out with these people backstage, and you have the access that a lot
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  of people dream of that, you know, I have to work pretty hard to sell myself to get.
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  Hell, you're already there.
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  You're just saying, hey, man.
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  I got the tripod right here and the do.
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  Here's set up, hit record, and go.
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  Man, you got some and if you need help, brother, you can hire me on as part of the
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  company.
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  I will come work the event, and and we'll just set up, and we'll do it all right there at the
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  same time.
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  It'll be perfect.
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  Listen.
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  I love that.
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  I love that offer.
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  That makes it real easy because, you know, that's where I get a little nervous, honestly.
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  That's where I get a little nervous.
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  I've had
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  a lot.
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  And it just comes from a lack of experience is all.
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  Right?
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  You haven't done it yet.
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  As soon as you do it a few times, you you get in the rhythm.
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  And I my big audacious goal is to start a million podcasters because podcasting has
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  changed my life.
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  It's allowed me to talk about the the shit in my life that's happened and to get it off my
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  chest so that I can grow as a human being.
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  And once I realized that, and this was in, like, December, I was like, oh, you have
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  something way greater than just a show.
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  You have something that's going to change people's lives.
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  And even if it's only you and the person that's on the other side of the camera, like, that's
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  having impact on the world.
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  And then if people start to listen to this and it changes, they're like, then so be it.
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  Right?
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  But I've never done it for the vanity metrics.
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  I've never done it for necessarily the fans or to, like, get fans.
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  I live in a town of a thousand people, Nick.
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  I'm as famous as someone can ask to be.
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  Right?
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  Like, everybody around me knows who I am.
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  I I I'm I'm not gonna say that everyone in the state of South Dakota knows me, but enough
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  people in my industry and around in my world know who I am because I've been around for
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  twenty five years.
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  If I never get any more famous than I am right now, I'm totally okay with that.
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  Right?
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  But if we can help other people to get as famous as they want to be, which some people
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  have much bigger goals, they wanna sell out stadiums and be touring worldwide.
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  If we can have some kind of impact on their lives in that manner, well, then who am I to
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  stop them?
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  Right?
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  Come on the show, talk with us, and see where it goes.
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  Well, it was like that too.
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  Right?
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  Like, that's funny because I just did a podcast interview literally a week and a half ago.
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  And no lie, I was having complications from the transplant, and I was in the hospital.
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  And I did an interview from my hospital from PodMatch, and I did an interview, and that was
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  one of the questions that came up was legacy.
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  And I told them straight up, my legacy is my podcast.
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  It is something I wanted now.
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  Okay?
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  My daughter's 18.
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  She's at San Diego State as a freshman.
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  She's gonna be a college basketball player.
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  She's on scholarship.
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  That's my baby.
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  But I want her to turn around like she does.
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  And when I'm not around, she listens to my episodes.
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  She'll call me and talk about it.
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  Like, at the end of the day, that's my legacy was to have a podcast that I could impact
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  people.
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  And and and I always try to bring two things to every podcast.
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  I try to make people laugh, and I always try to give them something to think about.
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  That's and that's my goal every podcast.
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  And I want my legacy to be my podcast, Not my streaming, you know, my business is going to be
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  my daughter instantly is going to be, but I wanted my individual at 36 years old, my
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  individual legacy to be my podcast, to be where I bring people on and give them exposure.
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  And, hey, if they get huge, awesome.
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  Got all the power.
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  Do I have a goal to be the next Joe Rogan?
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  Yes.
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  But do I turn around and see that, like, I impact people?
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  That's the most important thing to me.
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  Yeah.
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  You took the words right out of my mouth.
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  I I tell people that all the time is and and that's why I think that everyone should have a
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  podcast is for that exact reason.
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  Right?
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  And everyone's podcast is gonna be different.
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  I love doing interviews.
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  I could never just sit here and talk every day.
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  You know, Bill Burr just sits there and does a monologue every day.
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  Like, that's not me.
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  That's I love meeting new people.
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  Right?
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  All the times that I was, you know, a vagabond hitchhiking around the West Coast and, like, it
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  was because I wanted to meet new people.
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  And and why I still enjoy busking when I get a chance is just being on the street and
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  performing myself.
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  And it's not about the money.
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  It's about the connection that I'm able to make with people, the smile that you get, or the
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  conversation that you have because of that.
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  And, yeah.
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  Exactly.
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  My podcast is my legacy, brother.
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  We've interviewed over 300 artists on our show in the last eighteen months.
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  We have had on you know, we support nonprofits.
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  You see the banner behind me for operation combating veteran suicide.
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  What impact are we gonna have on the world around us?
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  And for me and obviously for you now as well and you're seeing it is that the greatest
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  impact I can have is literally just by rolling the camera, having some conversations, sharing
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  a little bit of our story, heading getting other people to share their story, and then
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  laying that out there for the world.
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  And are we to the Joe Rogan level yet?
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  Hell no.
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  But we've only just started.
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  Right?
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  I mean,
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  it took ten
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  years to really get to the point where he felt like it was something.
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  And you're talking about someone who already had a significant amount of fame before they
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  ever started doing it.
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  So for guys like us that are literal no ones, right, like, you know, it's gonna take us a
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  long time of doing that.
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  But look at what you've achieved in your streaming world already.
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  Like, you're going to do so much good for people and and change people's lives just by
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  having conversations with others, man.
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  It's so cool.
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  See?
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  And that's and that's what I love.
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  Like, you know, I love that I do have that impact.
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  And that's and you say my like, the one on ones, listen.
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  I do that once in a while where my cohost is a DJ.
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  The other Nick is a DJ from Southern California.
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  Sometimes he can't be around to do an episode.
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  So I fly solo, and I may not be able to have a a guest that day, but I will do I will still
• 27:22
  pump out an hour episode with emotion change, tone change, and I will talk about things going
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  on in my perspectives, and I will still keep keep my audience hanging on because I'm
• 27:39
  fortunate enough to be one of those content creators.
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  And I had this conversation with my daughter the other day and my mother is that I am one of
• 27:46
  those content creators that if I put out more episodes, people do watch them more.
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  If there's some people that if they put them out too many, you know, they get peep
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  oversaturated, and people don't you know what I mean?
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  They start losing people.
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  But I'm fortunate enough that I have people who follow me that if I dropped three episodes
• 28:09
  three straight days, they will watch each new episode.
• 28:15
  Yeah.
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  They're invested in you and what you have to say and what you bring to the table, and and
• 28:20
  they they just can't get enough of that be Nick energy.
• 28:24
  Yes, sir.
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  And I try to and like I said, I try to make it relatable.
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  I try to talk I talk about, you know, mental health.
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  And I I mean, I bring on, you know, like I said, a big TikTok psychic, and I bring on
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  musicians and gamers.
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  And, you know what?
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  Because I feel like my audience has became so much so many content creators and so many
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  content creators that people that are average that don't know this world, that wanna get into
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  this world.
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  So I try to talk about content creating a fair amount so people know, like, yeah, anybody can
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  do it.
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  Just what kind of content creator do you wanna be?
• 29:07
  Right.
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  And and what are you passionate about?
• 29:09
  I think that's really where it stems from is that can you, you don't have to be the smartest
• 29:14
  person in the room, but you do have to be passionate about what you're talking about.
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  And that's why I started in music because that's where I knew a bunch of people, and
• 29:22
  that's what I was passionate about was independent music.
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  And, it wasn't because I looked at the industry and was like, there's not enough of this show,
• 29:29
  so I'm gonna do this.
• 29:31
  Like, no.
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  It's what I'm passionate about to do.
• 29:34
  And then I just like meeting interesting people.
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  So it just was a perfect fit for me.
• 29:39
  I've really enjoyed everything that I've gotten to do from it.
• 29:43
  And I I would love to be a guest on your show sometime and get to be on the other side of the
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  microphone as it were.
• 29:50
  Anytime you are ready, you can come on.
• 29:53
  I mean, you like I said, you're a person that brings value, that can reach out to other
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  people that I may not be able to reach out to or relate to better with, you know,
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  songwriting, live performing.
• 30:08
  That's not my thing, but that that is a lot of what my followers do.
• 30:14
  They are a lot of up and coming artists that, you know, are out there, you know, trying to
• 30:21
  figure out as a live music player what they should do.
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  As a songwriter, what should they do?
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  And those are things that I can give broad advice on, but I can't help them like someone
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  like you could help them.
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  You bring a different type of value, which is awesome.
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  And and the same to you, and that's exactly what every single person brings to the table
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  and why podcasts are changing the world, man.
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  I I say it all the time.
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  This is how God is healing the universe.
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  Right?
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  This is how us all telling our story to one another in a real conversation is so much
• 31:01
  better than the, you know, thirty second clips that you get fed on social media or that you're
• 31:07
  getting when you, you know, you watch any of the news.
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  I don't know if anyone watches network news anymore, but, you know, it's just a crap way to
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  communicate.
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  And this is how it's done, brother.
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  Go ahead and plug everything.
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  Make sure you plug the podcast so people can follow you there and and any of your social
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  media stuff, and I'll let you get out of here.
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  Listen.
• 31:27
  You guys can find me on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and iHeartRadio.
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  It's two Nicks, one cup.
• 31:38
  You can find me on Instagram.
• 31:40
  That's lowercase b Nick energy underscore twenty twenty five.
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  Those are how you can always find me.
• 31:49
  Awesome, man.
• 31:50
  Well, a great conversation.
• 31:52
  I appreciate some of your time of your vacation, and, thank you for being part of the
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  scene.
• 31:58
  Hey.
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  Thank you for having me.
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  I appreciate it.