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Facebook fitness mom allegedly forces daughter to urinate on herself to FAKE kidnapping! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Graced Tammy. Stephen called nine one
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  Speaker 1: one last Saturday and told to dispatcher someone just tried
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  Speaker 1: to kidnap her daughter a load of five. You can
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  Speaker 1: hear Stephen passing along a description black gloves, what did
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  Speaker 1: he look like? Dozens of deputies searched for the man,
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  Speaker 1: and the neighborhood was on high alert. People purchased dogs,
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  Speaker 1: People didn't want family members potentially to come to their
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  Speaker 1: homes as a fear of what might happen. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: maybe want to even leave their home. But today detectives
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  Speaker 1: say the entire report was a fake. They say this
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  Speaker 1: video shows the mother of four buying a notebook and
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  Speaker 1: other things she planted as part of the kidnapping story.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen is a fitness competitor and personal trainer, and according
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  Speaker 1: to investigators, she was trying to frame a business partner
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  Speaker 1: who she blamed for wighing votes that kept her from
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  Speaker 1: winning an online fitness contest. She even went so far
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  Speaker 1: as to have her daughter urinate herself to make it
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  Speaker 1: be more believable to law enforcement. The Sheriff's office says
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  Speaker 1: Stephen is a sick person who not only put fear
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  Speaker 1: into an entire community, but cost the Sheriff's office thousands
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  Speaker 1: of dollars for the man hunt. Detectives say even Stephen's
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  Speaker 1: husband was fooled because he also thought the kidnapping attempt
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  Speaker 1: was real. What a fitness instructor faking her daughter's kidnapping,
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  Speaker 1: including forcing the daughter to urinate on herself. Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: didn't understand what's happening, but sadly I think I do.
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  Speaker 1: You were hearing our friends at ABC Action News. That
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  Speaker 1: was reporter Eric Waxler, this is crime stories, I, Nancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: I don't quite understand it. Take listen to our friend
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Rosella. Depute say that this man tried grabbing a
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  Speaker 1: little girl sometime around a Saturday at seven pm. They've
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  Speaker 1: been looking for him ever since. Now, if you can't
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  Speaker 1: stop and take a look at a map of this
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  Speaker 1: area where it happened, mail a court in Holiday. Deputies
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  Speaker 1: say that this man tried grabbing this little girl by
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  Speaker 1: the arm, but she thankfully was able to get away.
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  Speaker 1: And here's that man's description. Deputies say he's about five
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  Speaker 1: foot six to five foot nine with a muscular build
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  Speaker 1: in dark short hair. They also tell us he was
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  Speaker 1: wearing all black and even had on black gloves. Now
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  Speaker 1: back out her live. Thankfully that little girl wasn't hurt.
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  Speaker 1: As we mentioned, she managed to get away, but deputies
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  Speaker 1: still need your help trying to track the suspect down.
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  Speaker 1: So if you have any information, please contact the Pasco
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  Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office. Okay, if this is a hoax, it
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  Speaker 1: has gone to death. Come four. It is at a
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  Speaker 1: whole another level because now there is an alert and
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  Speaker 1: a very detailed description of a kidnapper. If that's not true,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what if they make what if cops make
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  Speaker 1: an arrest for Pete's sake? Again, I'm Nancy Grace. This
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  Speaker 1: is crime stories. Did a fitness quote influencer eight three
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  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty nine fake Instagram accounts to troll stalk
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  Speaker 1: rival bodybuilders, and to top it all off, forced her
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  Speaker 1: little daughter to pretend she had been kidnapped, even forcing
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  Speaker 1: her to urinate on herself. Is it possible? Joining me
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  Speaker 1: an all star panel? Ashley Willcott judge and trial lawyer,
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  Speaker 1: Court TV anchor at Ashley Wilcott dot Com. James Shellnutt
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta Metro Major Case Detective SWAT officer retired now lawyer
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  Speaker 1: Karen Start Now psychologist out of Manhattan at Karen Start
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  Speaker 1: dot com and crime online dot com investigative reporter Crime
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  Speaker 1: online dot com where you can find this and all
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  Speaker 1: other breaking crime and justice needs Levi. First, let's start
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  Speaker 1: with the kidnap. What happened to the little girl? So
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  Speaker 1: she was feeding her dog, according to her mother, and
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  Speaker 1: she was kidnapped, but the kidnap attempt was foil The
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  Speaker 1: kidnapper ran in to the woods, and apparently the little
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  Speaker 1: girl got a really good look at him. What may
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  Speaker 1: cop suddenly think that maybe there wasn't a kidnapping, So
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  Speaker 1: they were questioning her twelve year old daughter, and the
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  Speaker 1: twelve year old daughter kept saying, what's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: if I tell what really happened? And of course she
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  Speaker 1: broke down and said that her mother told her to
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  Speaker 1: say all of this. And investigators had got their hands
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  Speaker 1: on footage from Walmart where they saw her purchasing a
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  Speaker 1: laptop and a laptop cover, and those were the same
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  Speaker 1: items that were found in the woods where she said
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  Speaker 1: this mysterious kidnapper ran into after trying to abduct her daughter.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at w FLA. This
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  Speaker 1: is Jeff Patterson. I spoke to the assistant agent at
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  Speaker 1: charge Share at the Tampa Field office of the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: They uncovered hundreds of fake social media accounts and more
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  Speaker 1: than a dozen email accounts designed to harass a former
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  Speaker 1: business pardner. Thirty six year old Timmy Stephens, first called
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  Speaker 1: the Pasco Sheriff's office last July to report someone tried
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  Speaker 1: to kidnap her daughter with me. They're small kids, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm upstairs in the closet, and I do have a
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  Speaker 1: load of forty five with me. I heard that your
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  Speaker 1: daughter's outside feeding the dogs and someone, a man tried
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  Speaker 1: to grab her from the wood. The attempt at abduction
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  Speaker 1: and the phone call were fake. Pasco deputy soon found
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  Speaker 1: out Stephan went too great links to fake her eleven
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  Speaker 1: year old daughter's kidnapping. She even went so far as
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  Speaker 1: to have her daughter urinate herself to make it be
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  Speaker 1: more believable to law enforcement. Okay, this is what I
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  Speaker 1: don't get, LEVI page. Let's just assume. Let's pretend that
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  Speaker 1: she did fabricate the kidnap. How does that help her
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  Speaker 1: as a fitness influencer? What? First of all, what is
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  Speaker 1: a fitness influencer? Now I get it if you're an
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  Speaker 1: instructor or if you own a workout studio. But what
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  Speaker 1: does the fitness influencer? What is that? So you'll see
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  Speaker 1: them on social media? They're very prevalent on Instagram where
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  Speaker 1: they post videos and wooa right there, right right right there.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just stop, you leave I page. I've got
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  Speaker 1: as you on the panel. Well know, just have a
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  Speaker 1: sip of your tea while I tell till this part.
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  Speaker 1: I got two guinea pigs, a cat, a dog, an
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight year old mother, a husband, and twins. I
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  Speaker 1: do not have time to go online and look at
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  Speaker 1: a quote fitness influencer. It will only make me feel
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  Speaker 1: bad about myself. Fitness influencer. Okay, now what were you
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  Speaker 1: just saying about? What is a fitness influencer? So they
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  Speaker 1: post videos and photos of themselves working out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: showing off their muscle and their hard work in the gym,
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  Speaker 1: and they'll often endorse fitness products like workout supplements, and
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  Speaker 1: they get paid to post it on Instagram. So she's
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  Speaker 1: actually will caught. Please help me, Ashley. How many children
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  Speaker 1: do you have? I think it's three, yes, man, three
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  Speaker 1: and two dogs. And you have the dogs and you
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  Speaker 1: got the rabbits that I I didn't know there were
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  Speaker 1: two cats. And I heard through a very good and
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  Speaker 1: reliable source on the playground that your rabbits in the
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  Speaker 1: backyard eat McDonald's cheefe burgers. And that's wrong on so
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  Speaker 1: many different levels. But I'm not even going to go
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  Speaker 1: into that. Rabbits are not carnivores to my understanding, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe yours are. I'm not going to get a fight
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  Speaker 1: with them. But as you well, the last thing I
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  Speaker 1: want to do is go online and look at somebody,
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  Speaker 1: some woman in a gem, probably a really expensive workout outfit,
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  Speaker 1: showing off her muscles. See, it's something what people will
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  Speaker 1: look at on the internet. I mean, people spend hours
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  Speaker 1: every day. I don't have the time either, and I
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  Speaker 1: laugh because I can barely navigate the internet much less
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  Speaker 1: look at that. But what's amazing, Nancy, is how many
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  Speaker 1: people out there do look at that every single day.
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  Speaker 1: It's a time suck and they look at that stuck.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't get it, though, Karen, starting, how could
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  Speaker 1: staging the kidnap off your eleven year old daughter possibly
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  Speaker 1: help you as a fitness influencer. Well, I think that,
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  Speaker 1: but she thinking to herself, that she's going to call
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  Speaker 1: attention to herself and get somebody else in trouble, and
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  Speaker 1: you are trying to make sense out of someone Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: who's got a problem. She's not your normal every day
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  Speaker 1: instruct her. Okay, wait wait wait wait wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I just had a memory from college. I remember this
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  Speaker 1: gorgeous woman, beautiful red hair, drew bruises on her face
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  Speaker 1: with eyeshadow. It was very obvious that it was drawn on,
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  Speaker 1: and said that she slipped in the shower. And I
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  Speaker 1: did not understand. Why would you draw bruises onto your
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  Speaker 1: face and pretend you slipped in the shower. And that
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  Speaker 1: was the first time that I ever experienced someone staging
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  Speaker 1: and that I knew had staged an incident, and I
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  Speaker 1: at the time did not get it. I get this
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  Speaker 1: even less care and start so bringing attention to yourself
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  Speaker 1: and quote getting someone else in trouble and not caring
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  Speaker 1: about your daughter too. What does she mean? Ly my page?
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  Speaker 1: She apparently had competed in a fitness competition and the
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  Speaker 1: person that was helping her out, a business associate, she claims,
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  Speaker 1: had set her up to fail the fitness competition, not
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  Speaker 1: to win it had sabotaged her. So the motive alleged
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  Speaker 1: motive here is that she tried to frame him for
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  Speaker 1: this hoax, this kidnapping, to get back at him. Oh
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  Speaker 1: what kind of spare time must these people have? Listened?
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  Speaker 1: To our friend Jeff Patterson at w FLA eight means
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  Speaker 1: all of this to frame a former business partner because
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  Speaker 1: Stephan believed the business partner had sabotaged her effort to
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  Speaker 1: win an online health and fitness contest. The FBI got
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  Speaker 1: involved when they learned it also involved with Cyprustocket crime
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  Speaker 1: stories with Nancy Grace. In addition to sending threatening messages online,
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  Speaker 1: she spoofed calls. She also used voices guising software. According
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  Speaker 1: to the FBI, Stephen set up hundreds of fake online
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  Speaker 1: accounts to harass her victims. The extent of her crime
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  Speaker 1: is astounding. She used over three hundred and sixty nine
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  Speaker 1: Instagram accounts and eighteen email accounts the FBI identified in
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  Speaker 1: which the defendant used to threaten her victims. Talk about
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  Speaker 1: having time on your hands, making hundreds of fake accounts,
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty nine Instagram accounts, eighteen email accounts
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  Speaker 1: to threaten her victims Okay, wait a minute. Victims, that's
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  Speaker 1: plural le vipage. She only told me about one. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: according to the FBI, there was about three victims and
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  Speaker 1: mull double states. And some of the messages that she
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  Speaker 1: would send them would be I plan to slice you
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  Speaker 1: up into little pieces? What I plan to slice you
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  Speaker 1: up in little pieces? And that's okay, go ahead. I
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  Speaker 1: just had to let that soak. I had to let
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  Speaker 1: that marinate for about ten seconds. Go ahead. That's tame
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  Speaker 1: compared to some of that. Wait, I want to hear
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  Speaker 1: the ones you're talking about. That What else? She says?
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  Speaker 1: You're blood I shall taste? And then she sent photos
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  Speaker 1: of knives with the caption I'm coming for you and
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  Speaker 1: all hell is going to fire down on you in
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  Speaker 1: your world like never seen before. Okay, Karen Stark, boy,
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  Speaker 1: do I need to shrink? You're a blood? I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at the direct quote right now. You're a blood? Shall
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  Speaker 1: I taste? Okay? When you start speaking like oldie English,
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  Speaker 1: your blood? Shall I taste? Oh? Okay? What is that?
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  Speaker 1: That's somebody who's really enjoying the act of getting red bench.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was an incident where she left a
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  Speaker 1: headless doll on the steps of one of her so
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  Speaker 1: called enemies so the child would find it. She was
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  Speaker 1: really enjoying every second of this Nancy. She was diablotically,
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  Speaker 1: diabolically plotting to do this and ways that she could
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  Speaker 1: make people be most frightened, intimidated and get even Hey,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, Karen Start, I'm so happy.
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  Speaker 1: You're never wrong, but I got you. I got you
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  Speaker 1: going bass ackwards. I'm so happy. In all the years
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  Speaker 1: I've known Karen Start, she's never got a fact draw.
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  Speaker 1: She Tammy Stephen, the fitness influencer, call police, and she
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  Speaker 1: alleges she finds a headless doll on her front porch
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  Speaker 1: with a note that said new toy for the kids.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at w FLA Channel eight,
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  Speaker 1: Peter Bernard, this one's just in time for Halloween. Pascoe
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  Speaker 1: say they arrested the mother of a young girl on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday for him a Cobb story. They say they now
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  Speaker 1: know she had a friend put a headless baby like
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  Speaker 1: this on her porch as a way to get back
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  Speaker 1: at a former business partner, inside a cryptic note saying
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  Speaker 1: new toy for the kids. The strange behavior at this
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  Speaker 1: house in the Vista Lakes neighborhood, and holiday started a
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  Speaker 1: string of odd events that led to the arrest of
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  Speaker 1: thirty six year old Tammy Stephen. Arrest paperwork says Stephen
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  Speaker 1: plotted with a friend to place the headless doll back
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  Speaker 1: on July ninth, then she filed the Sheriff's office report
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  Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. Stephen didn't like how deputies responded to the
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  Speaker 1: headless doll, so five days later, cops busted Stephen in
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  Speaker 1: an elaborate plot to fake the attempted abduction of her daughter.
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  Speaker 1: But copps found video of Stephen buying items they say
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  Speaker 1: she used to stage the kidnapping in mid July. Deputy's
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  Speaker 1: told us, and not only is it sick because they
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  Speaker 1: fabricated it, but is sick because this mother of the
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  Speaker 1: twelve year old utilized her daughter to perpetuate this ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: report of crime. I'm sure that weaves into her fake
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  Speaker 1: kidnapping somehow. So she's happened five days before, so she's
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  Speaker 1: apparently stalking herself. James Shelnut joining me Atlanta Metro major
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  Speaker 1: case detective Swat retired now lawyer James help me out. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Nancy, I'm just thinking, I'm glad that this
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  Speaker 1: is not a net girlfriend of mine, because this is
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  Speaker 1: an exact type of lady that would keep your car
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  Speaker 1: and slash your tires. This lady is scary. You're not
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  Speaker 1: well wait wait, is there something wrong with that? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead. You know this lady is scary. You know,
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  Speaker 1: stalking you know, we we don't way scary. Yeah, Stalking
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  Speaker 1: is one of those types of things, Nancy, that law
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  Speaker 1: enforcement gets a lot of report of. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: statistics are one in six women are victims of stalking,
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  Speaker 1: one in nineteen men and victims of stalking. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is an offense which essentially what this lady did,
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  Speaker 1: she was cyber stalking for these people that she was
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  Speaker 1: angry at. And so this is a top of crown
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  Speaker 1: that often leaves the violence. It places people in fear
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  Speaker 1: of their safety, and it's serious, you know, and in
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  Speaker 1: this case, you know, if you look at as the
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  Speaker 1: best together stepping back from this, if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the situation of what does it look like if a
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  Speaker 1: person is sending cyber threats and sending other threats, what
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  Speaker 1: does it look like when that person is actually a
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  Speaker 1: person who would follow through with it? And what it
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  Speaker 1: looks like is Tammy Stephen. And speaking of using your daughter,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen to our friend Mario Lopez. I heard
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  Speaker 1: that your daughters outside feeding the dogs and someone a
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  Speaker 1: man tried to drive her from the wood. This true
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  Speaker 1: crime story is started with that nine one one call.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities say Tammy Stephen, a fitness influencer, lost an online
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  Speaker 1: fitness competition and then rereak havoc on colleagues and set
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  Speaker 1: off a wild chain of events. What I believe is
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  Speaker 1: a sick person fabricated this whole event. Authority said it
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  Speaker 1: all started with Tammy Stephen creating almost four hundred Instagram
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  Speaker 1: accounts it used to harass and threatened her x business
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  Speaker 1: partner and others, one of which she told she would
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  Speaker 1: slice up into little pieces. But Tammy was just getting started.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Tammy caught on camera. Cops claims she was buying
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  Speaker 1: supplies for a fake attempted kidnapping of her twelve year
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  Speaker 1: old daughter from her backyard, which she tried to pin
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  Speaker 1: on a former business partner. And Tammy not only allegedly
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  Speaker 1: asked her daughter to lie about the attempted kidnapping, but
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  Speaker 1: then after being arrested for a false report. According to
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  Speaker 1: Pasco County Sheriff's Tammy called her daughter from jail and
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  Speaker 1: asked her to say it was her idea. Her steavenss was,
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  Speaker 1: if I tell the truth, what's going to happen to
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  Speaker 1: my mind? Does nobody remember jailhouse phone calls are recorded?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that true? James Yell, Nut's absolutely true. It's been
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  Speaker 1: to down following meaning a criminal tea and I love it,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Willcott. I will never forget playing over and over
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  Speaker 1: and over Todd Mom, Casey Anthony and her visits with
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  Speaker 1: her parents. You know they're not only recorded, but audio
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  Speaker 1: face contorted in hate and revenge at her parents who
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  Speaker 1: are just there trying to help her. It never once
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  Speaker 1: showing interest about where Kelley may be or what happened
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  Speaker 1: to Kelly. You know, as she Wolcott, it's sop Stanner
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  Speaker 1: operating procedure to record phone calls in and out of
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  Speaker 1: the jail. Yeah, it is, thank goodness, because here's what
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  Speaker 1: really disturbs me about this case. At twelve year old,
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  Speaker 1: anyone would do this to their child. Batten up if
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  Speaker 1: the child's an adult, but much less when this child
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  Speaker 1: is still a child. And these mothers take these actions,
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  Speaker 1: do these things, and do not care at all about
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  Speaker 1: the children. They're not capable of write and care for them.
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  Speaker 1: So thankfully, yes, it is standard operating procedure, and we
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  Speaker 1: do have recordings which every prisoner should know. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: so I think they're incapable of behaving appropriately. Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friend Fox thirteen Dan Maddox. Investigators say
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  Speaker 1: that Stephens was mad at her former business partner and
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  Speaker 1: trying to free them this payback. In her mind, she
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  Speaker 1: believed that somehow he prevented her from winning a health
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  Speaker 1: or fitness contest online in it as part of the plot,
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  Speaker 1: Investigators say she trained her daughter to lie, but she
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  Speaker 1: even went so far as to have her daughter urinate
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  Speaker 1: herself to make it be more believable. Stuffin's is seen
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  Speaker 1: on surveillance video, according to detectives purchasing fake evidence, which
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  Speaker 1: they say she planted in a bush. They say her
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  Speaker 1: daughter eventually, in tears, told them the real story. Her
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  Speaker 1: neighbor also has young children. All weekly they've been living
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  Speaker 1: in fear, thinking a kidnapper was on the loose. I
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  Speaker 1: told my daughters, you don't go out without any A
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  Speaker 1: waste of taxpayer money and a terrified community over what
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  Speaker 1: deputies call a selfish act that also scared her little girl.
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  Speaker 1: Her statements, US was, if I tell the truth, what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen to my mom? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: Investigators say that Stephens was mad at her former business
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  Speaker 1: partner and tried to frame them as payback. In her mind,
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  Speaker 1: she believed that somehow he prevented her from winning a
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  Speaker 1: health or fitness contest online. In it as part of
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  Speaker 1: the plot, investigators say she trained her daughter to lie,
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  Speaker 1: but she even went so far as to have her
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  Speaker 1: daughter urinate herself to make it be more believable. Stephens
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  Speaker 1: is seen on surveillance video, according to detectives, purchasing fake evidence,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: which they say she planted in a bush. They say
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: her daughter, eventually, in tears, told them the real story.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Her neighbor also has young children. All weekly they've been
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: living in fear, thinking a kidnapper was on the loose.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I told my daughters, you donc I'll without any A
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: waste of taxpayer money and a terrified community what deputies
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: call a selfish act that also scared her little girl.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Her stevement, so, US was if I tell the truth.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: What's going to happen to my mom? You know, I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: just trying to figure out what was going on in
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: this woman's mind. And they gave such a detailed description
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: of the quote kidnapper, describing him his height, his weight,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: says he's a Hispanic man who tried to snatch the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: little girl, the eleven year old, drag her into the woods.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And then the little girl was saying, what's going to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: happen if they find out the truth? And I lied
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to the police, And the little girl questioned, what would
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: happen to her mom if she told the truth? You know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of her postings online and you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: can tell she works out all the time. To leave
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: my page Crime online dot Com investigative reporter. What kind
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: of a fitness competition did she lose? I mean, how
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: can you have an online fitness competition? What is that?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I guess it's where they compare, you know, photo photographs
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: that you post of your progress of gaining muscle and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: losing fat from working out well, and who votes for you?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I would say that it would be people in the
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: fitness community, people on social media. And another instance, the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: FBI says this woman. Thirty seven year old Tammy Stephen
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: calls a business owned by a Collier County, Florida woman
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: so many times the company couldn't get costs from customers,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: so she changed the business voicemail to sounds of a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: sex nature, including people moaning in the background. Okay, how'd
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you like that? Going on your outgoing message? Now, what's odd,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: as you Willcott, is this woman had no criminal record before.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? You know? I gotta be honest,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Dancy this day and age, I see so many crimes
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and so many has come before the court that it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: used to be well, if they didn't have criminal history,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it would be unusual they would resort to something that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: is this egregious. I don't believe that anymore. I'm not
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the psychologist. I don't know the mental health or why
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: they resort to this, but it doesn't to me. It
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean they didn't do it just because they don't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: have prior criminal history. I say that all the time.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: James shell Nutt, I always use Scott Peterson as a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: great example. He hadn't he didn't even have a traffic
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: violation before he murdered his wife and his unborn baby. Yeah, absolutely,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, a lot of times
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you look back and there's not always an accurate skill
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: or it's not always accurate to say that. Hey, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the level or number of criminal convictions that a person
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: has is consistent with what their mindset is. You know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are very seriously mentally
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: ill and going through a lot of things, and that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: may not always be reflected on a criminal history. But
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, I don't see this woman as being
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: mentally ill, Karen Stark. I mean, she may be angry,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: she may want revenge, deceitful evil, but mentally ill well, Nancy,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: according to the court and the way that you're looking
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: at No, she isn't. Because she's able to know right
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: from wrong. She's planning all of this. But in terms
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: of her ability to do it, in the fact that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: she took such pleasure in it, that's not a person
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: who is your normal, healthy individual. She definitely well, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't say she was normal. I didn't say she
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: was normal. For people's sake, listen to this message. Its
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: mental illness. It is not mental illness. Ian, who do
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you think you are? A psychologist? One of her quotes
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: says quote, all hell is going to rain fire down
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: on your world like never seen before. You have picked
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the wrong person to mess with. You have no idea
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: what you've done. I will be catching the next flight
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to Michigan out of here, and the person on the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: other end is probably thinking what happened? I mean, help
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: me out, leavi Page. Who is she writing because she
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: had several victims? Yes, there was several victims, Nancy, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think that their names have been published for
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: privacy concerns, you know too, as she willcott. This raises
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a specter of more charges, more serious allegations, such as
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: terroristic threats when you threaten to kill someone. But with
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: terroristic threats you have to have an overt act to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: go with it. It can't be just talk. If it's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: just talk, then that would be more of a stalking
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: and harassment charges. But there's more than one victim, Ashley, Yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: there is, and so there could be multiple charges as
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a result of the stalking. And that's one of the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: issues that we have with all of our social media,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: with all of our Internet. No, you cannot threaten people online,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: right and directly threaten people, but without the overt act.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: The charges may not be as severe, but you could
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: have multiple counts. So here's the question, what type of
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: a person are we dealing with when we're talking about
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Tammy Stefan? What kind of person? What about it? Karen? Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you're talking about someone who's obsessive compulsive, but a personality
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: disorder Nancy, which means she can't stop herself. She has
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to get revenge, the revenge that she's considering in her mind,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and she's narcissistic, which she will go to no ends.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: She makes sure that she punishes these people that won't
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: let her have her fame. Her children mean nothing to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: her because no one is as important to her as
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: she is. And what do you think about that? Reflecting
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: her obsession with her body, there's a narcissism and she'll
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: never be satisfied with her own body. She will never
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: think that she's in good enough shape that she can
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: win enough people following her, that she can have people
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: on her side, because she's looking for perfection, which doesn't exist. Well,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: why do you call her sessive compulsive? She is able
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to be. She can't stop. When you're obsessive compulsive, you
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: do minute things, you come up with old English. You
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: track all these different people, you find different accounts. She
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: keeps going. All the details are fine for her. Do
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you think she would have ever carried out her threats?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That's the part that we actually, that's the part you
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: didn't mention. And I think she might have. And that's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: the scary part, because she was getting worse as she
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: kept going. Well, the fact that she went so far
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: as to purchase the items and bring her daughter into it,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: those are over acts, which shows she would act to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: some degree, and once the camel's noses in the tents,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: tail will thoroughly follow. I agree, definitely, think about think
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: about someone who neglects their children that way. Oh, but
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that's narcissistic behavior. Nobody else is real to you. It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: like I said, capac, So she was going to enlist
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: her daughter to help her to Ashley. What parental rights,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: if any, will she have while behind bars? Oh, that's
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: an excellent question. So someone has to take care of
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that child. Ideally, in a perfect world, you have a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: relative who's capable and appropriate and can care for the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: child and can have temporary custody. She's married, So the father,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: unless the father failed to protect I mean, you have
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: to think about that in juvenile law in terms of
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: who has custody. If there's clear and convinced evidence that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that father failed to protect, that child can go with
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a relative or perhaps be in foster care. But if
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: she's in jail, does she have any parental rights? Her
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: rights are not terminated if she's in jail. Now, I mean,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but if you're in jail, you can't see your child,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you can't force somebody to bring your child. Well, those
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: rights still exist. There are a lot of people that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: get to visit with their children while they're in jail
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: unless there's a no contact provision. Believe I was there one.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: There hasn't been anything reported regarding that. Did the husband
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: have any clue? Lea I Page. Her husband has said
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that he had no idea that any of this was
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: going on, that he had absolutely no clue. He even
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: thought that the kidnapping was real. Prime Stories with Nancy Grace,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a Florida mom and fitness coach and competitor, plans an
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: elaborate attempt, a fake attempt, a fake attempted abduction of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: her little girl, pointing the finger at a business colleague.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: According to Pasco County sheriffs. The girl, the little girl
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: was afraid to tell the sheriff's what really happened. But
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that she just stayed. She actually pointed the
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: finger at someone else, A real person created a scenario
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: where her daughter will be snatched and dragged into a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: wooded area, and then she would escape and the police
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: will be called, and then her daughter would describe the assailant,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and that a sailant just so happened to be the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: business colleague. Is that right, Levin? Yes, it was her
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: business partner that she was targeting. Deputies and detectives also
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: find a notebook filled with notes written in different colors
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and a laptop cover. Now the girl's description of the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: man who tried to kidnap her. She told police she
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: had never seen him before, but based on the little
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: girl's description, mommy says it was her business partner, a
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: former business partner. So it's not just some you know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: random person. She's actually having the business partner described. And
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they go and question the business partner, don't they leave
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the correct Nancy? They go in question and can you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: imagine Nancy being the target of something like this. I mean,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's absolutely mind blowing no, long story short, they go
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: find the business partner, Thank goodness for him, he had
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: an alibi and cops checked it out. There was a
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: video of him in Tampa at the time of the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: faked kidnapping, and that was forty five minutes away from
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: where the faked kidnapping happened. All this because she thought
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: she should have won a fitness photo contest online. I
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: mean amazing to me. And I'm curious, very curious about
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the allegations and the false police report. You know, you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: can do jail time for that or learning that in
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the Jesse Smolette case. Leavi page. How much time and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: money were wasted on this investigation. I don't know exact amount, Nancy,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: but I know that they had dogs search dogs out there.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: They even deployed helicas. They were using helicopters to searching
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: the woods for this fake kidnapper, Nancy. So this is
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of money. This is not just something that
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you know they went out and looked in the woods
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for on feet. They were actually deploying helicopters to search
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: for this is say, you're right, Sheriff no Co said
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: the full quote. Might the Sheriff's department went went into service,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: air support, K nine Special Unit, Major Crimes Unit, Patrol,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: many many other sources to catch the alleged kidnapper. People
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: in the neighborhood bought dogs, people didn't want to leave
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: their homes. To James Shellnutt, former SWAT officer now lawyer, James,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: how much money are we talking about that was wasted
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: on this fake kidnap claim? Making the daughter tit on herself. Oh,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing well into the six figures. I mean, you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: it's expensive to run a helicopter, the manpower hours, the
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: overtime hours, the resources, the drain. You know what makes
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: it worse is, you know, we're living in a society
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: where you know, there's a shortage of money often for
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: public safety and city governments, and that makes it even
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: that much worse. And it takes a police away as
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: well from investigating real crops and helping real victims. Now,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: this woman, Tammy Stephen, married, the mother of four, had
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: multiple Facebook pages for her beyond fit Jim personal training business.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Now it says on there, or said before she deleted it,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: all that she had a degree in business management and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: many many Fitnish related certifications. But she says she is
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: a coach, a fitness and sports nutrition specialist with fifteen
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: years of experience. Well, as it turns out, she couldn't
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: trick police. The FBI got involved when they learned it
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: also involved cyberstalking. In addition to sending threatening messages online,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: she spoofed calls. She also used voices guising software. According
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to the FBI, Stephen set up hundreds of fake online
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: accounts to harass her victims. The extent of her crime
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: is astounding. She used over three hundred and sixty nine
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Instagram accounts in eighteen email accounts that the FBI identified
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: in which the defendant used to threaten her victims. Stephan
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: is now pleaded guilty to two very serious accounts. In
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: this case, she faces up to ten years in federal prisons.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Based on what we were seeing online, it appears the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: competition may have been miss MS Health and Fitness. You know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: it's amazing to me, Karen Starts, psychologist, how far this
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: woman allegedly went over this mishealth and fitness competition Just
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: before the stage abduction. She was in fourth place. It
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't amaze me, Nancy, because she's demonstrating obsessive compulsive behavior.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: There is a lot of narcissism going on with her,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and it's a personality disorder where she can't stop herself.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Not that she doesn't enjoy it, but she definitely is
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: so involved in the intrigue and enjoying every second of
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: this that you know, there's something really wrong with her.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, let me think about this. James shell Nutt,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: former swat NOW lawyer, how long would it take to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: create three hundred and sixty nine fake Instagram accounts just
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in order to troll your rival bodybuilders? Oh, it would
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: take a long time of things. You know, that's an
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: immense investigation. You know, a lot of times you think
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: about cyberstalk and Nancy in the terms of you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: your local law enforcement agency gets involved. But in this case,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: something I found interesting is that the federal government got involved.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: The FADS got involved. That I started investigating this, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: it was due to the immensity of what had occurred. Often,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you know, these things occurred multi jurisdictional, across different cities
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: or counties or states. You know, three hundred and sixty
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: nine accounts is a lot of information to gather on.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So local law enforcement actually alert at the FBI and said, hey,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we need some help. This is a big thing going on.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: This is a lot of information and we don't have
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the resources to handle and actually investigating and pulling up
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: all of the cyber crimes. It's like, you know, fine
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: tooth come through every keystroke this woman made to Levi page.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: She worked hard, but this is way way over the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: line multiple crimes. Was she charged Levi with any abuse
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: on her daughter that she forced to urinate on herself
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and to fake a kidnapping, Well, she has actually been
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: charged with child neglect charges, cyberstocking, sending thirtning communications. That's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: where the cyberstalking, and she played guilty and was sentenced
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to five years in prison on those charges. Guys, that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: means she has access to the jailhouse computer. Let's see
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: where that goes. Five years is it enough? And what
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: lasting effect will this have on her family? Her four children,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: two boys, two girls. We wait as justice son of
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: falls I predict early release Nancy Gray's crime stories, signing
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: off goodbye friend,