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The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - Tuesday, 08/25/26 · Ron Verb

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Speaker 1: All right, back to it. News Radio 570, WKBN, and
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Speaker 1: Ron Verb, you're on the air.
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Speaker 2: Ron, how you doing?
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Speaker 1: Good, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Hey, I was watching something very interesting last night. You know,
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Speaker 2: I was reading about the tariff negotiations, the trade deal
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Speaker 2: negotiations with Canada, things like that. And that kind of
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Speaker 2: led me to this video on YouTube of Ross Perot and....
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: bill clinton's uh... vp al gore they had a debate
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Speaker 2: on larry king i think it was back in like
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Speaker 2: ninety three or something about nafta and uh... and ross
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Speaker 2: perot he he was like a profit you know the
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Speaker 2: things he was saying about why i was a bad
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Speaker 2: trade deal why we shouldn't be doing those things was
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Speaker 2: you know nearly dead on and uh... you know the
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Speaker 2: big thrust of his argument was that doesn't make any
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Speaker 2: sense to open up these trade deals and be able to,
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Speaker 2: you know, move capital across the borders if you can't
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Speaker 2: move labor, you know, basically because, you know, what companies
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Speaker 2: wanted to do in the 90s is, yeah, use all
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Speaker 2: that Chinese labor, use the Mexican labor, use the South
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Speaker 2: American labor for really cheap because it was like a dollar,
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Speaker 2: you know, compared to, you know, in the U.S. it's
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Speaker 2: like $ 15, and it's just so much cheaper. And that
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Speaker 2: was Ross Perot's big argument against it. And I think
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Speaker 2: that's really borne out. And that's really why America's really struggled,
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Speaker 2: in my opinion. It's not because we've gotten that we
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Speaker 2: got a raw deal on those trade deals. I think
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Speaker 2: they were really great for America, for business owners. But
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Speaker 2: the business owners, they just saw that as profit. They
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Speaker 2: didn't see that as some way to enhance profit. you know,
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Speaker 2: the American working class or the American people in general.
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Speaker 2: It's just a way for companies to save money on labor.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's really what kind of went wrong there.
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Speaker 2: And what I see happen with Trump is he's not
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Speaker 2: involved in any of that. Like, what Trump is concerned
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Speaker 2: about is just straight-up tariff costs. And those, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you just start imposing willy-nilly tariffs. Like, it doesn't
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Speaker 2: help either country in really any way. You know, what
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Speaker 2: we should have been doing is trying to promote the
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Speaker 2: workforces in Mexico, in Canada, in China, trying to get
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Speaker 2: those living standards up for those people. Then, you know,
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Speaker 2: then you could have fair trade with those people. But
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Speaker 2: as it stands right now, there's just none of that.
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Speaker 2: I don't see Trump, like, trying to deal with any
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Speaker 2: of those kind of issues. You know, I just see him, like, retreating, basically.
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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty disappointing. I mean, it's extremely disappointing
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Speaker 2: what's happening with Canada. You know, not, I don't remember,
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Speaker 2: a decade ago, you used to be able to freely
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Speaker 2: travel into Canada. You didn't even need a passport. You know,
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Speaker 2: there was relative free trade. I mean, I think there
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Speaker 2: was some tariffs back and forth. but very minimal. And
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Speaker 2: that's all out the window. And that is 100% on Trump.
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Speaker 2: And that's, I mean, that's the worst thing we could
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Speaker 2: be doing to ourselves, in my opinion.
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Speaker 1: So you think he's on the wrong track?
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Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. I mean, I don't, I haven't, I haven't
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Speaker 2: heard any, I've never read one article, one academic, one politician,
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Speaker 2: one political analyst saying who thinks these trade deals that
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Speaker 2: Trump is negotiating are in nearly anyone's benefit. You know,
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Speaker 2: and I look. I have a good faith effort. If
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Speaker 2: somebody wants to make the argument that this is a
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Speaker 2: good way to approach the policy, I'll hear it out.
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Speaker 2: I have not heard one, not one good argument for it.
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Speaker 1: For tariffs.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, the way he's managing them, yeah. I mean,
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Speaker 2: tariffs are, you know, tariffs are just a tax on
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Speaker 2: your own population in order to develop certain industries you
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Speaker 2: want to develop in your own country. You know, that's
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Speaker 2: basically the only thing they're used for or good for. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, so that's what Trump's, his, like, general argument is, oh, well,
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Speaker 2: let's just stop buying things from these other countries, and
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Speaker 2: that's just going to somehow promote you know, our own
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Speaker 2: manufacturing base or whatever. But that's just not happening. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you can look at the manufacturing numbers. It's still going down.
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Speaker 2: You know, it went up under Biden a little bit
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Speaker 2: when he.
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Speaker 1: Ron Verb. On News Radio 570. WKBN. Welcome, welcome, welcome. 435,
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Speaker 1: boys and girls, 78 degrees. Tuesday, August 25th. Ron Furp
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Speaker 1: from the Kingdom of Mahoney. I was talking to you, right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So if you go back, like, I voted for Perot.
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Speaker 1: Here was the case of another wacky, rich business guy
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Speaker 1: that I agreed with everything he was saying when he
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Speaker 1: was running. And everything you were saying about that, I
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Speaker 1: remember watching it. I watched the debate between Ross Perot
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Speaker 1: and Al Gore on Larry King Live, and everybody scored
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Speaker 1: it like, ah, Perot really got his ass whooped by Gore.
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Speaker 1: But when the dust settled, everything Perot said was true.
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Speaker 1: Everything that he argued, the jobs that were lost, the
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Speaker 1: sucking sound, the stagnant wages, everything that he said would happen, happened.
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Speaker 1: And everything that Clinton and Gore said would happen didn't happen.
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Speaker 1: It did not happen. So Perot was 100% right. And
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Speaker 1: when I voted for Trump the first time, well, I
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Speaker 1: voted for him every time. But when I voted for
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Speaker 1: him the first time, I thought he was very Ross
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Speaker 1: Perot-like based on he had been saying this stuff for
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Speaker 1: years like Perot. And I voted for him. And quite frankly,
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Speaker 1: I was very happy with what he was doing his
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Speaker 1: first term. And then COVID messed everything up. And I
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Speaker 1: was pretty happy with what he was doing this term
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Speaker 1: up until this war situation. So and I would wish
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Speaker 1: you'd get back. I'm a big believer in the American
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Speaker 1: first agenda. Now, you were then talking about the tariffs
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Speaker 1: that are that are going on. I and I make
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Speaker 1: this argument all the time. And you've probably been around
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Speaker 1: a long time. There is no way, and I'll say
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Speaker 1: it again, that we can compete with a lot of
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Speaker 1: these slave wage nations. And I've listened to employers. I've
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Speaker 1: talked to them personally. When you can go to China
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Speaker 1: and you can have a dirt floor, childhood labor, you
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Speaker 1: don't have Social Security, health insurance, none of that stuff,
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Speaker 1: and they'll make that product at half the price to
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Speaker 1: put your ass out of business. And that's exactly what
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Speaker 1: they'll do. And Vietnam will do that and India will
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Speaker 1: do that. So unless– so Trump's argument, which I agree with,
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Speaker 1: is you have to level a playing field. In other words,
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Speaker 1: you have to have tariffs that equal that difference in
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Speaker 1: lifestyle before you can bring that product into this country. Otherwise,
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Speaker 1: you'll put American manufacturing out of business and we'll lose
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Speaker 1: those jobs. And since I believe the best social program
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Speaker 1: is a good job, that's not a good thing to
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Speaker 1: lose to make all your washing machines out of the country,
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Speaker 1: your vehicles out of the country, because that is the goal.
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Speaker 1: Even Tim Ryan, when he was your congressman here as
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Speaker 1: a Democrat, would regularly bitch about the dumping of steel
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Speaker 1: products into this community, finished steel products. dumped here in
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Speaker 1: this community from China at a cost less than we
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Speaker 1: could buy the raw materials for. Now, on the other hand,
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Speaker 1: so that's why I support tariffs. However... I support tariffs
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Speaker 1: even in the playing field because I still want those
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Speaker 1: products to come in and you to have a choice
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Speaker 1: as a consumer because I don't want tariffs to where
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Speaker 1: the American business can say, now we can hike our
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Speaker 1: prices up and really put the screws to people because
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Speaker 1: I've seen that happen too. I've seen when the competition
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Speaker 1: went away, the gouging took place. So I still want
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Speaker 1: you to have a choice to say, I want a
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Speaker 1: Toyota because General Motors used to say, it, once you
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Speaker 1: buy a Toyota or a Honda, and I just remind people,
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Speaker 1: the reason they're in the United States was because of
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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. You were not a Reagan. The only way
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Speaker 1: they could bring those cars in and put them here
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Speaker 1: was if they had to be made in the United States.
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Speaker 1: That was Reagan. That's why all these plants are in
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Speaker 1: the United States of America. So I don't have a
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Speaker 1: problem with you buying a Toyota or a Honda. Look
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Speaker 1: at what it did for Marysville, Ohio and this kind
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Speaker 1: of stuff. But even General Motors said once people go
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Speaker 1: to those cars, they never come back. They're so satisfied
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Speaker 1: with the quality of them. And what did GM do
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Speaker 1: when that happened? GM started upping their game and making
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Speaker 1: their product better. Now we're right back to GM making
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Speaker 1: stupid decisions. General Motors basically conceded the small car and
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Speaker 1: the fuel-efficient car. They conceded that all to Honda, Toyota, Kia.
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Speaker 1: General Motors and Ford, they gave up on making small cars,
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Speaker 1: fuel-efficient cars, with the exception of maybe the Chevy Trax, affordable.
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Speaker 1: You can still get a Chevy Trax. But for the
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Speaker 1: most part, they conceded the car market to all the
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Speaker 1: foreign companies, which I think was just damn stupid. They
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Speaker 1: made some of the stupidest corporate decisions you could ever
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Speaker 1: make for a company.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
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Speaker 2: The thing that I get lost on is when you say, like,
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Speaker 2: level the playing field. You know, what that would mean,
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Speaker 2: if you want to level the playing field with China,
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Speaker 2: that means our labor costs need to be as low
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Speaker 2: as theirs.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. It means our labor costs stay
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Speaker 1: where they are. We level the playing field by having
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Speaker 1: a tariff of the difference between those benefits and wages
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Speaker 1: on their products coming in.
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Speaker 2: Who pays the tariff?
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Speaker 1: That's a tariff coming in. Obviously, you do as a consumer, potentially.
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Speaker 1: And if you don't, too many people lose their jobs.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can say, I want to buy all
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Speaker 1: this stuff dirt cheap. And I watch people say that
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Speaker 1: and do that until it ended up affecting their family
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Speaker 1: and their jobs. I remember sitting here when NAFTA came about,
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Perot, and people weren't paying attention until
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Speaker 1: they lost their jobs. And we saw entire communities... lose
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Speaker 1: their tax base, drug problems, school systems, the entire community's
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Speaker 1: destroyed for it. One of my best callers was Ray,
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Speaker 1: the truck driver, who said, it is so damn sad
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Speaker 1: out here. These plants I delivered to are all closed.
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Speaker 1: And they have all these weeds growing because they couldn't compete.
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Speaker 1: So that's the only way you can do it. I
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Speaker 1: happen to think it's a sin to all of this
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Speaker 1: work that's going over to China because we can't compete
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Speaker 1: with that in the prices that they do over there.
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Speaker 1: Are we to concede every job that we have?
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Speaker 2: Who was it that turned the jobs over to China?
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Speaker 1: Well, whether it's the American manufacturer or whether it's the
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Speaker 1: government policies. In many cases, it was Mexico because– and
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Speaker 1: here is two sides to every story. A lot of
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Speaker 1: times the car companies got fed up with the unions
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Speaker 1: going to extremes and wanting more and more that they
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Speaker 1: couldn't afford. So they went to Mexico to get away
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Speaker 1: from that. But then again, you've got a bunch of people.
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Speaker 1: You've got to have a job. to go to without
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Speaker 1: a job you're screwed the best social programs a good
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Speaker 1: job and we better have jobs for everybody because everybody's
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Speaker 1: not going to be a lawyer or a doctor or
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Speaker 1: whatever and you better have the jobs because if you
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Speaker 1: don't and perot was right and trump's trying to have
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Speaker 1: that in america into a large extent he's brought a
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Speaker 1: lot of manufacturing back out of the fear of tariffs
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Speaker 1: and it should continue to come back here well it
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Speaker 1: should continue to come back to this country With a
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Speaker 1: level playing field. So if you want to go buy
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Speaker 1: an LG washing machine made in Korea, you have that choice.
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Speaker 1: But it's not going to put out the... Was it
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Speaker 1: Whirlpool in Ohio? The company in Ohio that says, well,
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Speaker 1: you saw American business say we can't compete, so we're
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Speaker 1: going to have to go to Mexico, just like Perot said.
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Speaker 1: So it's easy to say, I want a deal until
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Speaker 1: it's your job. And I... I leave you with that.
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Speaker 1: So mull that one over, all right? Thanks. NewsRadio, I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's two sides to every story on this kind of stuff.
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Speaker 1: And I think people have to realize that when it
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Speaker 1: comes to where you are on these type of situations.
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Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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Speaker 2: Ronald.
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Speaker 1: It's Theodore the Conservative.
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Speaker 3: Hey, I had to call because you made me smile.
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Speaker 1: Really?
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Speaker 3: You said... I could never.
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Speaker 1: Vote for a Democrat. And I thought, wow. I will
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Speaker 1: correct something. I'm going to correct something. That does not...
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Speaker 1: I'm going to rain on your parade. That applies to
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Speaker 1: the federal level. And that applies to the state level.
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Speaker 1: That applies to, you know, president, senator, congressman, and even
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Speaker 1: the state level. However, I will say this to you. Oh, boy.
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Speaker 3: Here we go.
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Speaker 1: I know. I'm going to say I'm going to say no,
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Speaker 1: you don't. You know, I've by virtue of just sitting
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Speaker 1: in a catbird seats, I can tell you that I
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Speaker 1: think there are some Democrats that are running for local offices.
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Speaker 1: That are much far better choices and more competence than
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party.
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Speaker 3: They might be good salesmen, but remember, they voted for
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 1: They might smile.
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Speaker 3: And tell you everything you want to hear, but their decision-making...
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Speaker 3: skills are incompatible with the goals that you and I have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, really? Take a look at the recorder. No, he's
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Speaker 1: a bad guy, no doubt. And he's a Republican. You
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Speaker 1: would have been better off, the woman that was running
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Speaker 1: that office for years as a Democrat. All of this
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Speaker 1: stuff isn't necessarily political.
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Speaker 3: I'll give you credit. I'll say this. Life is not
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Speaker 3: black and white. There's a lot of gray. You're 100%
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Speaker 3: right when it comes to that recorder's office. However, however,
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Speaker 3: This is just Ted the conservative. I will never vote
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Speaker 3: for a Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you this. There are some... Well,
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Speaker 1: off the top of my head, there's at least one
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Speaker 1: in this... Well, one. In my neck of the woods
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Speaker 1: that I... I'm surprised you found one. Yeah, that I
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Speaker 1: would vote for a particular position because I think they have...
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Speaker 1: the right abilities. And I think their abilities... Even though
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Speaker 1: they're Kamala Harris fans? I don't know if they're necessarily
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris fans. They're Democrats. And listen, just because... Let
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Speaker 1: me put it this way.
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Speaker 3: They're very active Democrats.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes Democrats aren't happy with their party as well. And
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Speaker 1: I could be critical of Trump, and I will not vote...
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Speaker 1: solely based on party. I will on a lot of arenas.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes there are lousy Republican choices, I've got to
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Speaker 1: tell you.
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Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt. Give me a bad Republican over
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Speaker 3: a bad Democrat.
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Speaker 2: Most of them never meet our expectations.
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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest.
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Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. You have had a lot of...
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Speaker 1: I'll give you an example of a guy that I
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Speaker 1: think is a... decent human being, and he's a Democrat.
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Speaker 1: There's some out there. I think John Bocherry falls into
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Speaker 1: that category.
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Speaker 3: John's a good guy. For everything I know, he's a
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Speaker 3: good guy.
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Speaker 1: Good father, good.
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Speaker 3: Husband, good American citizen.
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Speaker 1: I think he's more of a.
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Speaker 3: He could be the exception to the rule. How's that?
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Speaker 1: Well, he could be one of them, but there's another
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Speaker 1: one I have in mind. It wouldn't be appropriate for
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Speaker 1: me to say it at the present time, but there's
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Speaker 1: another one I have in mind that I think from
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Speaker 1: a standpoint he has the right temperament that is needed
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Speaker 1: for the position he's seeking, in my opinion, yeah. But
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Speaker 1: some of these Republicans.
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Speaker 3: I agree there's bad Republicans. Don't get me wrong. And
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying never vote. I'm speaking in generalities, obviously.
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Speaker 3: I'm not naive to say there aren't good Democrats here.
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Speaker 1: In generalities, I would agree with you. But in some cases....
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Speaker 3: Once you leave the local government, we'll agree. You never
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Speaker 3: vote for a Democrat. Okay.
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Speaker 1: No, but I'm somewhat disappointed. I mean, like I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in Trump at this point in time. And
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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in the Republican Party as a whole that
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Speaker 1: they haven't codified this stuff, the executive orders. In general,
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party to me has been a disappointment on
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Speaker 1: the federal level, their lack of action.
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Speaker 3: I have told you, how many times have I told
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Speaker 3: you over the years that when it comes to governing
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Speaker 3: and getting things done, the Republican Party is horrible? I
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Speaker 3: think I've even maybe gone so far as to tell
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Speaker 3: you the only good thing about Republicans being in the
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Speaker 3: majority is we stop the Democrat agenda from moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Well, that isn't what you told me, and I'm going
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Speaker 1: to correct you. I've got a good memory on what
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Speaker 1: you told me.
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Speaker 3: What did I say? What did I say?
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to relive it. No, I said, you
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Speaker 1: said to me, I can remember it. You said, Ron,
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Speaker 1: you want to know what sucks? And I said, what's that?
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Speaker 3: I didn't say that word.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you do. You said, Ron, I'm going to tell
19:53
Speaker 1: you what sucks. I said, what's that? And then you
19:55
Speaker 1: said your show. And I said, oh.
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Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't say that.
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Speaker 1: Maybe that was someone else.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that was J.J., the liberal, before he got sick.
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Speaker 1: J.J. 's been on a roll, man. J.J. is a.
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, I got to tell you, I
20:16
Speaker 3: think I did good renaming him. I think I... You know,
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Speaker 3: and I want to go to the next guy real quick. Well,
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Speaker 3: go ahead. Say what you want about J.J., and I
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Speaker 3: want to make a comment about Fifth Avenue and the
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Speaker 3: other colleges.
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Speaker 1: I love Fifth Avenue. But you know what I was
20:33
Speaker 1: intrigued by the boss lady's insight into the– York going
20:39
Speaker 1: down to the trailer park thing yesterday. Her call was great.
20:43
Speaker 1: My favorite call yesterday was the 85-year-old woman. That was
20:47
Speaker 1: my favorite call of all of them.
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Speaker 3: God bless her, huh?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
20:50
Speaker 3: She's out there living life, cutting grass. She's going to
20:53
Speaker 3: live a lot longer if she stays active. So good
20:56
Speaker 3: for her.
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Speaker 1: But are you saddened as I am today with the
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Speaker 1: passing of Dolly Parton? I'm really bummed.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 3: You think she would have been sad if you died?
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Speaker 1: If I died?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you think she'd have cared?
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Speaker 1: No, but I know who Dolly Parton is. She don't
21:11
Speaker 1: know a squat about me.
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Speaker 3: How do you know who Dolly Parton is?
21:16
Speaker 1: I've been watching her for years. I enjoyed her music,
21:19
Speaker 1: her enthusiasm, her bubbly personality, all that kind of stuff.
21:23
Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 3: It has nothing to do with comments that you made
21:26
Speaker 3: about AOC earlier.
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Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I mean, can you believe that, honest
21:32
Speaker 1: to God, they are even talking about her?
21:35
Speaker 3: I'll tell you this much. My father-in-law and my wife
21:38
Speaker 3: from down south, Tennessee, to them it probably means a
21:41
Speaker 3: big deal, but I can care less. I mean, I
21:44
Speaker 3: understand why it means something to some people.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, it means a lot to me, and I'm
21:48
Speaker 1: not from down south, but she's just a great entertainer.
21:53
Speaker 1: Bubbly personality just made you, put you in a good mood.
21:57
Speaker 1: But the fact that the Democrats would even think AOC,
22:00
Speaker 1: I mean, I look at AOC as a nitwit.
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Speaker 3: She's nuts.
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Speaker 1: And Gavin Newsom.
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Speaker 3: I mean, she's literally on the verge, I mean, I
22:12
Speaker 3: don't know that I would say A socialist more as
22:15
Speaker 3: a communist. I mean, if you look at that DSA,
22:19
Speaker 3: they talk about Trump being a king, but they want
22:22
Speaker 3: to turn us into a communist country. Think about that.
22:25
Speaker 1: I just don't think she has the smarts to be president.
22:27
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. I think DeSantis has the smarts
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Speaker 1: to be president.
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Speaker 3: I'll say this about her. I respect her in that
22:36
Speaker 3: her opinion never changes. She truly believes in the crazy
22:40
Speaker 3: shit she says.
22:42
Speaker 1: Don't say the S word. Okay, she.
22:44
Speaker 3: Well, you said the S-word. I'm sorry. That's why you
22:46
Speaker 3: got my mind going.
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Speaker 1: No, I didn't say that.
22:48
Speaker 3: You shook me up.
22:50
Speaker 1: I didn't say that.
22:53
Speaker 2: But anyway.
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Speaker 3: You said the other S-word. She believes the crazy crap
22:57
Speaker 3: she says. Yes. She truly believes that stuff. So I
23:00
Speaker 3: can respect her now.
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Speaker 1: I can't respect it.
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Speaker 3: I'm like a Gavin Newsom.
23:04
Speaker 1: Well, hear me out.
23:04
Speaker 3: I'm like a Gavin Newsom.
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Speaker 1: Snake oil.
23:06
Speaker 3: He caters to the crowd. Yeah, he caters to the
23:08
Speaker 3: crowd he's addressing. Yes. He'll have... Ten different opinions on
23:13
Speaker 3: the same subject. Yes. She never changes her opinion.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
23:16
Speaker 3: You know where she stands. So when I say that,
23:18
Speaker 3: that's what I mean. There's very few politicians like that.
23:21
Speaker 3: I'm a practical Republican.
23:23
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom thinks he can get elected based on his
23:26
Speaker 1: boyish charm, and AOC thinks she can get elected because
23:30
Speaker 1: she thinks everyone wants to have sex with her. Hang on.
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23:49
Speaker 1: Cheers to flavor. Mike Rowe here with KBN. And Ron
23:53
Speaker 1: Furp from the Kingdom of Mahoning. 78 degrees. All right, Ted,
23:56
Speaker 1: go ahead.
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Speaker 3: So what I was going to say is your caller earlier,
23:59
Speaker 3: the gentleman that you were intrigued by... You talked about
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Speaker 3: him in Fifth Avenue. It was kind of the same breath.
24:05
Speaker 3: But I was surprised you didn't know his political position
24:09
Speaker 3: on issues. Over the years, he's made it very clear
24:14
Speaker 3: he's a liberal socially, and when it comes to fiscal matters,
24:19
Speaker 3: he's a conservative. Probably a moderate Democrat, just like my
24:22
Speaker 3: father was. Grew up as a Democrat. Probably worked in
24:26
Speaker 3: a union, maybe. But guys like him, the woman that
24:30
Speaker 3: called yesterday... Fifth Avenue. I remember I told you how
24:37
Speaker 3: I came up with the name of Fifth Avenue. I
24:39
Speaker 3: just had a vision of him sitting in a house
24:41
Speaker 3: up on Fifth Avenue, plastic on the furniture, with maybe
24:46
Speaker 3: a fedora hat on, a robe.
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Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. That's exactly how he is.
24:53
Speaker 3: But those guys, your callers that are older than me,
24:57
Speaker 3: those are the calls I appreciate the most on this program.
25:00
Speaker 3: Even if I don't agree with their political opinion. because
25:03
Speaker 3: they've lived life a lot longer than me, and they've
25:06
Speaker 3: got so many more life experiences than me. And you
25:10
Speaker 3: can hear that. It comes out in their voice. I
25:12
Speaker 3: think it comes out in their decision-making.
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Speaker 1: Right. I have that same thought. I mean, as a
25:16
Speaker 1: young guy like you, myself, I have that same thought.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, hey, we won't be young forever, so
25:23
Speaker 3: we might as well listen and learn, right? Sometimes I'm
25:28
Speaker 3: a little bit harder on Frank, but like you said,
25:31
Speaker 3: We may not agree with Frank's political opinions or his
25:35
Speaker 3: views on Israel, but he's a smart guy. He's no
25:37
Speaker 3: dumb guy.
25:38
Speaker 1: Right, I would agree with it.
25:40
Speaker 3: You know, you put that together with his life experiences,
25:45
Speaker 3: financial experiences. If you listen to Frank, you'll learn something.
25:48
Speaker 3: You don't have to agree with everything he says. But
25:51
Speaker 3: I'll guarantee you, you'll learn something from him if you listen.
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Speaker 1: He's pretty sharp on the economy. But he's in Fort Lauderdale.
25:56
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch him. I'm going to get him tomorrow.
25:59
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, if you're so smart on the economy,
26:01
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, how come you don't live in Naples?
26:03
Speaker 1: I'm going to zing him tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Naples? Why? What's wrong with Naples?
26:09
Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
26:10
Speaker 3: Well, Lauderdale, though, I mean, have you been there lately?
26:13
Speaker 3: My goodness gracious. There's a lot of money down there
26:15
Speaker 3: in Fort Lauderdale. Really?
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Speaker 1: I would think Naples. What's more expensive of a place,
26:20
Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale or Naples?
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Speaker 3: I would say that overall, Naples, there's probably not a
26:29
Speaker 3: cheap property in Naples, whereas in Fort Lauderdale, you may
26:32
Speaker 3: still find some. But I'm telling you, Ron, there's parts
26:35
Speaker 3: of Fort Lauderdale, holy cow. I mean, if you see
26:39
Speaker 3: these homes.
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Speaker 1: So you're saying I could zing him and it could backfire. Okay,
26:44
Speaker 1: I got to pause.
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Speaker 3: You could zing him and ask him to tell you
26:46
Speaker 3: about Fort Lauderdale.