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Miss. State on a Buy Week, Ole Miss Back in Action and a loaded SEC Weekend. · The Jake Wimberly Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We'll tell you about State 1878 before we get out
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  Speaker 1: of here with Robbie. All right, so Mississippi State takes
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  Speaker 1: it on the chin to Alabama. Things that could have
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  Speaker 1: gone wrong went wrong. You know, Kamario Taylor drops a football,
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  Speaker 1: throws the big six. That's going to happen. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I had some people freaking out on Saturday. I know
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  Speaker 1: you guys had a ton of people probably freaking out.
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  Speaker 1: I said, hey, look, Tom Brady– I think it was
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  Speaker 1: six times through four picks in a ballgame. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks make mistakes. Your thoughts on that ballgame, but more specifically,
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  Speaker 1: the injury possibly to Kamario Taylor, Fluff, Bothwell, and then
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  Speaker 1: a couple defensive players.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when I got on with you last
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  Speaker 2: week and all the interviews I did, some of the
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  Speaker 2: things that really concern me about this game is that
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi State wasn't healthy, and I'd Really kind of shuddered
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  Speaker 2: to bring that up because I didn't want to deal
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  Speaker 2: with people saying, oh, you're just making excuses. But it
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  Speaker 2: is a very real thing going on in Mississippi State.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess my point with all that is Mississippi
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  Speaker 2: State cannot afford to have injuries on this team. And
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  Speaker 2: they can't afford to make mistakes to beat teams like Alabama.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a reverence to Alabama. That's giving them their
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  Speaker 2: props because Mississippi State is just not in the position
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  Speaker 2: at this point where they can lose a guy like
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  Speaker 2: Fluff Bothwell and lose Travion Williams and Zachary Tillman and
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  Speaker 2: feel really good about themselves still. Alabama is in a
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  Speaker 2: position where they can do that. You look at Alabama's
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  Speaker 2: injury report, I've had some Alabama fans saying, we have
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  Speaker 2: a lot more people out than Mississippi State. well, you're
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  Speaker 2: replacing a five-star with a high four-star or another five-star.
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi State does not have that luxury right now. And
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  Speaker 2: they very much are dealing with an injury issue at
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  Speaker 2: this stage, which is really concerning about you look at
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the season and the schedule that they have,
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  Speaker 2: and there is a possibility for this team to win
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  Speaker 2: eight games or more. And to do that, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to have fluff Bothwell and pretty good shape.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to have to have Camaro Taylor and pretty
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  Speaker 2: good shape.
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  Speaker 3: And right now they're not.
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  Speaker 2: And when are they going to be able to heal
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  Speaker 2: up is the question and you get a week off.
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  Speaker 2: And I imagine next week too, is going to be
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  Speaker 2: pretty much a week off for those guys if they're available. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything to the contrary. I know rumors
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  Speaker 2: have been swirling on both of them today. I have
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  Speaker 2: not heard anything, um, super long term as far as
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  Speaker 2: keeping those players out, but we won't know anything for
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  Speaker 2: sure until next week whenever State goes to LSU and
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  Speaker 2: plays that football game.
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  Speaker 1: The injury to Kamaru Taylor, is it turf toe?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and he's got several things. I think he tweaked
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  Speaker 2: an ankle. I think he's had a little hamstring issue,
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  Speaker 2: but yes, he is dealing with some turf toe and
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  Speaker 2: last week was also sick.
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  Speaker 3: As well, so And that's a very tricky situation.
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  Speaker 2: The first time I remember hearing about turf toe was
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  Speaker 2: Wayne Mackin in 2001, maybe. And I think he was
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  Speaker 2: out for the season after dealing with his late that year.
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  Speaker 2: But as you know, covering sportsmen, it's a tricky injury
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't just heal up right away. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: something that can take some time.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you about a couple quarterbacks on that roster. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, we all hope Kamario Taylor plays. We get
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  Speaker 1: the best of Kamario Taylor. And maybe it's that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't play for a couple weeks, and we'll see what
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  Speaker 1: that November schedule, you know, holds for Mississippi State. We
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to see, you know, Billy Puckett a
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  Speaker 1: couple series the other day. What's the vibe on Jaden Rashada?
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I ask that is because he was
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  Speaker 1: such a highly thought-of prospect. I mean, has he come
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  Speaker 1: up at all?
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  Speaker 3: Not really, Jake.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he just hasn't really been able to get
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  Speaker 2: footing in that quarterback race. It was really kind of
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  Speaker 2: a Billy Puckett and A.J. Swann battle there behind Kamaru
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  Speaker 2: Taylor from what I could gather in the training camp
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  Speaker 2: portion of things.
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  Speaker 3: And Billy Puckett just.
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  Speaker 2: Went there and won that number two job. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he was just, quite frankly, was outstanding. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: trying to hype him up to anything more than what
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  Speaker 2: he can be, but he was really good in how
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  Speaker 2: he commanded the offense and how he approached every single day.
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  Speaker 2: In scrimmages, he was really good as well. But we
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  Speaker 2: just haven't seen Jaden Rashada and A.J. Swann come in
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  Speaker 2: and really take control right behind Kamaru Taylor. It has
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  Speaker 2: been kind of Billy Puckett's thing. It hasn't been that
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  Speaker 2: those guys have been terrible or bad. It's that Billy
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  Speaker 2: Puckett was the guy that was the consistent guy behind
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  Speaker 2: Kamaru Taylor. Everything that he did every single day, he
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  Speaker 2: was able to come into the building, as Jeff Flebby
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  Speaker 2: would say, and take care of his business. He can
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  Speaker 2: make the throws. He's sneaky athletic. He was really good
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  Speaker 2: in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at Fluff Bothwell, do you expect to
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  Speaker 1: have him back next week?
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  Speaker 3: We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: I really thought that he would be hampered, but ready
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  Speaker 2: to go this week.
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  Speaker 3: I think he just got out there and it just.
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  Speaker 2: Was not a good feeling for him. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: see something being long-term with him, but it is something
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  Speaker 2: to monitor for sure. I think it is a good
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  Speaker 2: thing that he was suited up and he was ready
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  Speaker 2: to play and he probably could have played if they
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  Speaker 2: really wanted to push him. And now you get a
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  Speaker 2: week or two off, you really need to get him
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  Speaker 2: closer to a hundred percent. Like he, he needs to
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  Speaker 2: be a guy that we don't need to see what
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  Speaker 2: we saw late last season when they, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: they rushed him back a little bit. Maybe he rushed
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  Speaker 2: back a little bit on that ankle and he never
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  Speaker 2: got back to his true self and it never was
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  Speaker 2: able to heal properly. He needs to heal pretty, pretty
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  Speaker 2: well over the next couple of weeks because they're going
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  Speaker 2: to desperately need him against LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, and those teams.
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  Speaker 1: Now, obviously Mississippi state, you know, Five carried the load
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  Speaker 1: there for them. J.J. Hill got some time. Could we
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  Speaker 1: expect to see maybe more of a J.J. Hill presence
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  Speaker 1: in this offense over the next couple weeks?
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  Speaker 3: I think you have to.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a guy that's a little different than
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  Speaker 2: what you have back there with Colin Wilson and Xavier Gaten.
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  Speaker 3: They're more.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of speed guys that can break away and get
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  Speaker 2: a big run for you. Although Colin Wilson, I think,
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  Speaker 2: to me is a little– underrated as far as being
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  Speaker 2: able to shed tackles we didn't see this much last
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  Speaker 2: week but JJ Hill is that low center of gravity
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  Speaker 2: you know if you're going arm tackles with that guy
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna bring him down if you're hitting him
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  Speaker 2: up high you're not gonna bring him down he is
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  Speaker 2: a load back there and I know that he's a
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  Speaker 2: true freshman there's some things that he probably has to
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  Speaker 2: improve on back there and you definitely probably got to
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  Speaker 2: get better as far as pass blocking things like that
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  Speaker 2: but that might be a guy that you got to
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  Speaker 2: throw into the the mix a little more i mean
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  Speaker 2: just to give you someone that's capable of of making
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  Speaker 2: a one-yard gain into a seven-yard gain. That is a
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  Speaker 2: capable back there. Let him wear it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Let some of those younger guys get in there and
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  Speaker 2: run a little bit and prepare him for next year
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  Speaker 2: because Fluff Bothwell, now two seasons in a row, has
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  Speaker 2: been beaten up, and you've got to have next man
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  Speaker 2: up for Mississippi State. They've talked about this room. Before
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  Speaker 2: the season, they talked about how they wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: a committee and they wanted to have a full running
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  Speaker 2: back room that they can rely on and not just
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  Speaker 2: worrying about one guy. This is your opportunity here. Cooper Crosby,
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  Speaker 2: can you get some of those guys in the mix
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  Speaker 2: and let them go a little bit? That would take
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  Speaker 2: a lot of load off your offense, I think, and
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  Speaker 2: off of guys like Fluff Bothwell and Kamaria Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how Jeff Levy,
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  Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, and it's not an excuse. With
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  Speaker 1: the rosters the way they're built now monetarily, we know
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  Speaker 1: kind of about numbers. I mean, you get different, different
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  Speaker 1: outlets that report the athletic and others that do their homework.
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  Speaker 1: And you guys are probably all over that too on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we know that Alabama spends about X Mississippi
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  Speaker 1: state spends about Y, um, but state still kind of
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  Speaker 1: at a deficit in that when you start getting into
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  Speaker 1: the Texas's and LSU's and Alabama's that's, that's not an excuse.
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  Speaker 1: That's just the nature of the game. So with that said,
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  Speaker 1: with LSU coming up, um, you know, a trip to Texas, Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sandwiched in there, um, is a situation where
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  Speaker 1: you maybe don't rush these guys back. Maybe you get
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  Speaker 1: them back by Oklahoma and see. And for Taylor, depending
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  Speaker 1: on what it may be, you may actually try to
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  Speaker 1: push him out to November. I hate to say that,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how severe it is, because November looks to
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  Speaker 1: be an easier schedule.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was not of that opinion going
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  Speaker 2: into the Alabama game. But I do think that right now,
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  Speaker 2: like your best bet here on the back half of
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  Speaker 2: the schedule of picking up some wins– is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a healthier Camario Taylor and a healthier Fluff Bothwell.
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  Speaker 2: And I just don't see these guys getting a whole
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  Speaker 2: lot healthier taking the hits that they're about to take
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  Speaker 2: because LSU and Texas, the defenses that they have, we
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  Speaker 2: know they're going to bring pressure. We know that Camario
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  Speaker 2: Taylor is going to take hits. I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 2: you concede these ballgames, and that's certainly not the mindset
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  Speaker 2: that they would have going in But you do have
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  Speaker 2: to think about protecting your quarterback and your running back
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  Speaker 2: here long-term this season and making sure that those guys
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  Speaker 2: are available for you late in the year because there
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  Speaker 2: are very winnable games there in that four-game stretch with
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  Speaker 2: Auburn and Vanderbilt, Tennessee Tech, Ole Miss. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: a big part of your season right there, and some
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  Speaker 2: big things can happen. And, you know, I guess it
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  Speaker 2: just boils down to the players too. I mean– I
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  Speaker 2: don't foresee Kamario Taylor's being on board with that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't foresee him saying, yeah, you know what, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: We probably need to sit this thing out for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of games. I just don't see it. If he
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  Speaker 2: can walk, he's going to get out on the field
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  Speaker 2: and play.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the good stuff, which is
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. Anthony Evans. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: amazing to me, a guy like Anthony Evans, that some
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  Speaker 1: receivers just find grass. And, man, he can just find it.
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  Speaker 1: Even though you game plan for him, What he did Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: what he continues to do, man, he is on a
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  Speaker 1: different level right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he is really taking that next step, Jake. You
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  Speaker 2: saw it last year, like opportunities growing for him in
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  Speaker 2: this offense that he didn't have at Georgia. And it's
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  Speaker 2: a totally different offense. I think they're utilizing him. better
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  Speaker 2: than Georgia would have. But he was also behind some
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  Speaker 2: really good wide receivers there. So coming to Mississippi State,
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  Speaker 2: they saw the skill set. They put him in position.
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  Speaker 2: This offense just kind of breeds numbers for wide receivers.
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  Speaker 2: But you're starting to see him really develop. And I
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  Speaker 2: think the first week I got on here with you,
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  Speaker 2: I told you that I think as this year goes on,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's going to see the influence of Phillip Montgomery at
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver coach. And I think you're starting to see it.
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  Speaker 2: The development that these wide receivers are having, it's not
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  Speaker 2: just go routes for these guys. I mean, they are
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  Speaker 2: developing as wide receivers. Their route tree is growing. They're
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  Speaker 2: becoming a more sophisticated wide receiver group. I think that
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Evans is right there at the forefront, and you
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  Speaker 2: look at the improvement that he's made. Even from last year,
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  Speaker 2: he was an 800-plus yard receiver last season. but he's
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  Speaker 2: already surpassed his touchdown total from last season. He is,
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  Speaker 2: within the next couple of games, probably going to surpass
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  Speaker 2: what he did yardage-wise.
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  Speaker 3: If he stays healthy, he will be.
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  Speaker 2: Your all-time leader in receiving in a single season, and
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty special. But he has been just simply outstanding.
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  Speaker 2: I go back to that play he made in the
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  Speaker 2: game a couple weeks ago against Missouri, that diving catch.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not just the ability, it's the effort
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  Speaker 2: and how hard he's playing that's been so impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, even starting to see some tight end sightings. Sam
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  Speaker 1: West getting some of those H-backs involved, kind of really
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  Speaker 1: working a lot of different pieces in the offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they need those tight ends to step up.
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  Speaker 2: But you've got to have that position, I think, in
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  Speaker 2: this offense. And we've watched this offense over the years,
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  Speaker 2: whether it be him leading at Central Florida or Ole
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  Speaker 2: Miss or Oklahoma. what Lane Kiffin and company have done
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  Speaker 2: with tight ends as well. The tight end is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of a feature of this offense. It
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  Speaker 2: was one of the state's best receivers the last couple years,
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  Speaker 2: so did Traore, if you look at the numbers. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's been nice to see Sam West get involved a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more because when you've got a guy that
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  Speaker 2: can leak out and that can get open and get
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  Speaker 2: some big yardage for you at tight end, man, that's
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  Speaker 2: a cheat code.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's four or five.
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  Speaker 2: Different receivers that you have on the field at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, that's tough to defend. We saw that last
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  Speaker 2: week with Sam West, and that's a really good development,
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  Speaker 2: I think. You'll probably see that game grow a little
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  Speaker 2: bit because defenses are starting to show that dime package,
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  Speaker 2: the deep safeties, mixed-in safety help that's going to prevent
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the deep passes. You're going to need
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  Speaker 2: those tight ends to be at that that middle stage
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  Speaker 2: of the defense making those plays.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you'll see that a lot more next
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  Speaker 3: few weeks.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Defensively, you know, I told people today on my show
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and just the way my opinion of it is, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Alabama just Alabama's really good. I mean, they are, they
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: looked really good. Keelan Russell's looks, looks really good. That
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: wide receiver group looks really good. They are, you know,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: they actually run the football well early, but your thoughts
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: on Zach Arnett and the job he's done now, you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: a couple of games deep into the SEC.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't think we all talked about
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: after this game, everybody was talking about Kamario Taylor's poor
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: play and injuries and all that stuff. I don't think
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: enough of us really discussed maybe Alabama's just really freaking good.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I want to know your opinion on this. That looked
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: like a Saban team to me. Did it not to you,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the physicality?
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: It did, because they came out and they tried to,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: put their hand in the ground, and they did it.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And they were able to establish the run game, you know,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: be it through, you know, Hill or a different back
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: or through the quarterback run. I mean, they looked really good.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And they started physically. They moved Mississippi State off the line.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Then they went to the pass game. Then the play-action
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: game came back to the run game. Defensively, they were
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: able to sometimes get pressure with three guys on the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: defensive front. So, yeah, it looked very 7-S to me
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and, you know, they're doing some of that H-back,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: tight end stuff. Their tight ends are really good. a
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: big part of what they're doing offensively. It just looked,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it looked like it's sometimes like 2012 Bama,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: like the early Saban teams. But, you know, the physicality
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: up front was really impressive from them. I mean, they
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: just physically dominated Mississippi State. I don't think State is
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: an inferior, like, you know, I don't think they lack physicality,
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: but they're just not as physical as what we saw
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: with Alabama. And so when you talk about Zach Arnett's defense,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I think he's doing a good job. I just think
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: State got absolutely worked in this game from a physicality standpoint.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: They are dealing with a lot of injuries there, too,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: up front. Jalen Smith looks like he might be out.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: For an extended amount of time, if not the season,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Isaac Smith still dealing with an injury. You've lost two
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: defensive linemen. This team is just not built yet to
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: be what they need to be under Zach Arnett. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I think we saw that against Alabama. It's going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: be tough again against teams like Texas and LSU, too,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: with what they do from a physicality standpoint. So, you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: it's a work in progress, but we have seen some
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: good things from that defense. I'm not punting on Zach
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Arnett by any means, based on what we saw last week.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I think Keelan Russell might be, even who he is
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and where he's playing, I still think he might be
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: one of the most underrated players in the country. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: don't think he's being talked about enough.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: No, I agree. And, look, he'll be on, you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Spotlight 1 this weekend against Georgia. And, you know, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: think what we're seeing, and we'll continue to see this,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: is Bama and Georgia, Texas, we'll see how, you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they're built like a machine. They don't typically play like
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: a machine. Those teams are at a different level. Maybe
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: even LSU because of the money. And then you look
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: next level down. I mean, you see what, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: State beats Missouri. Missouri beats Florida, who walked Ole Miss. So,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you know, you're going to have that middle-tier group of teams,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Tennessee's right there, maybe Auburn's right there, that you're just
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: going to have a cluster of teams that potentially could
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be 8-4, 9-3. And this is just the way I
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: feel about it with a nine-game schedule. If you're used
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to being a 10-2 team, 9-3 may be the norm.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: If it's 8-4, it may be 7-5. Where State lands,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of that's going to depend on health. We
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: know that. but I think State's in that second cluster
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about that.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I don't look at this team and think they're head
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: to the playoff. That was never my expectations for Mississippi State. Now,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: we talked about it last week. If they win that
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: ballgame against Bama, you're absolutely talking about that at that point.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But I think what this season is for Mississippi State
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: is that prove-it season where we are seeing a legitimate
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: step forward from Jeff Levy with a sophomore superstar quarterback
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: and all these nice players around him. And, you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you got some guys coming back on defense. You've seemingly
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: turned it around from a culture standpoint that takes you
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: into the off season where you can become a potential
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: playoff team.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I think that state has the pieces.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: If they retain what they need to retain, you're selling
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Camario Taylor at that point to the transfer portal and
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Not to get in, but to bring people to Mississippi State.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's kind of the goal this year. Can you get
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to that eight-win mark? Because I think if this team's
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: an eight-win team, pushing nine possibly, you have a ton
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: of juice going into the offseason with what you're trying
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to recruit, whether it be from the transfer portal or
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: in high school.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you. Let's finish up this, talking
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: about recruiting. Obviously, these classes are set way earlier. But I,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you know, thoughts on recruiting, maybe things you guys are hearing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I saw a lot of big names up there.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Josh Parker from Brandon, big time wide receiver. You probably
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: got a chance to see him against Starville. I mean,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of looks. He was there. I
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: know he's a big Camario Taylor guy. Looks like a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: lot of guys are starting to look towards Starville. Yeah.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of tough at this stage of the
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: game to go out there and start rating the current class.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Cause it's all about relationships being built early and things
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: And, I think State has been kind of a.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Slow build to get back into the minds of high
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: school players, especially in this area. But you look at
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: that 2028 class, and, man, the last two weeks, the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: players they've had on campus has been impressive. And, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I saw Mitchell Turner there this week, the Ole Miss
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: commit from Louisville.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: We'll see where that goes. But, obviously, he has a
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: good relationship with Phil Lodeholt and Jeff Lebby.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: But that 28 class, I think, is where we could
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: see a big jump for Mississippi State. The Zayden Jernigans
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: and the Parkers, like you mentioned, the other Brandon player, linebacker,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Cam Roberts, like those guys are guys that Mississippi State
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: can start kind of flipping their mind a little bit,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you know, where State wasn't very cool a couple years
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: ago to a lot of these kids. This year they
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: see Kamario Taylor putting on for Mississippi. They see Isaac Smith.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I think they're starting to resonate a lot more with
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: these in-state kids, especially.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I know money's the big, a big part
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of this, but I think to what you're saying, I mean, that,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that has a part of it to do. There's still
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that part of it, right? I mean, where kids want
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to find attraction to a program, be it state or
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss in state. And you're not going to go
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: out and beat the Michigan money and the Ohio state
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: money and the Miami money that some of that money
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that's coming to the state. But I do think winning,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: winning does cure it, cure lots of it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And I think, For State and Ole Miss, I think
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: they have the same problem at times with kids in State. And,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you know, they've been a lot more successful than Mississippi
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: State has in recruiting those players the last few years.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But I know they're frustrated, too, with some of these
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: kids that go out of State. And that's something that,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: you know, these two in-State schools are battling right now
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: with kids in Mississippi is trying to impress on them
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to stay home and don't go– help another state get better.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Don't go help another team get better. You can help
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the places you were born and bred right here. You
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: can help us get better. And so I think that
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: is starting to come back. There used to be a
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: big deal to kids in Mississippi, as you know. When
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you look at Dan Mullen and Hugh Freeze and the
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: battles that they had, the state of Mississippi.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Was really important to a lot of these kids.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what is starting to kind of
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: trickle back in because you have players– like Camario Taylor
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and Isaac Smith that just said, you know what? I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: can go just about anywhere in the country, but I've
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: decided to do something here. It means something different to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: those players.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Rob, before we let you go, tell everybody about State 1878.
• 25:06
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• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great week last week with Hardy
• 25:12
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• 25:14
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• 25:21
  Speaker 3: We have events.
• 25:22
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• 25:29
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• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Robbie, always appreciate you, brother. Have a great week.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Talk to you soon. Robbie Falk in with us tonight
• 25:40
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• 25:42
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• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Let's bring in our next guest, Rob Brown. Sidelines, always
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: kind enough to give us some time. And, of course, Rob,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you can get him every morning, 7 to 8. Or no, yeah,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: 7 to 8.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: No, 8 to 9. 8 to 9.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: There we go. Central. Central time. Rob, appreciate you jumping
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: in here as always. We were just talking to Robbie
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: about Mississippi State, and you had texted me about Kamario
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Taylor today, and it looks like this may be a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: little more elongated now that the day has gone on.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: It could be a turf toe with a combination of
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: an ankle, maybe a hamstring. He may be out for
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: a bit.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: That hurts.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, but as you get into the bigger games,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: you're going to get hit a lot more, and everybody
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: starts figuring out what you do.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: And you've got to take care of yourself.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: And then just basically it's just how much does he
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: go in to do his rehab and work with the
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: strength and conditioning coaches and the doctors and all like that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: But he's a franchise player and you can build a
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: hell of a team around him.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: No, there's no doubt. All right. State's got the week off.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss is back in it. Let's jump right to it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Get your thoughts. It feels like we're starting to see
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a separation in the SEC. You know, we know what's
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: at the bottom. Bottom of the pool, we've got Arkansas,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: we've got South Carolina. That's a whole other story there
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: with Shane Beamer. Lost another close one to Kentucky. Oklahoma
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: is not that good. Texas A & M is not
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: that good. Vanderbilt looks like they've taken a step off,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: so that's kind of on the bottom. The upper end
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of it, Texas is still there, and we've got the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: big one this weekend, Alabama, Georgia. And I'll tell you what, Rob,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Alabama looked the part against Mississippi State. I know that
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: their state obviously is not where they want to be, talent-wise,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: but State walked right into Starkville, put their hand on
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the ground, and just ran right over them.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, they did.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Alabama won 56-23, and there was no comparison. They were
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: also able to do tall sweeps and a lot of
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: stuff that we used to see 20 years ago. Mississippi
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: State's just got to keep stacking players.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Up, and it's so hard to build depth.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: And Alabama, if you look in the last couple of years,
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: maybe seven or eight of the high school kids that
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: DeBoer has recruited have left.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: The rest of them have stayed. 85% of them.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: So all these high school kids that they've been banking
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: on are paying dividends now. And they go into the
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: portal somewhat, but this is a team a lot like Georgia.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: They'll go into the portal at Georgia, but they're very
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: selective in who they take. And then you look at Clemson,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: who is just gasping for air now because last year
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: they signed nine kids in the portal, which was like
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: six more than they'd signed in the previous five years combined.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Might be too late for Dabo.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: And he's going to go out kicking and screaming, pulling
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: his record up from the past. Well, Georgia and Alabama
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: are doing it the right way. You build high school first,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: and you're selective in who you get in the portal,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: and that's why this is going to be, no question,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: a much better game than Texas and Ohio State.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: No, there's no doubt. Alabama has gotten the best of Georgia.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: for quite a while. Now, last year, obviously, Georgia got
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: over in the SEC title game. They've had their moments.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Do you like Alabama and Tuscaloosa this weekend?
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I do, but I'm not counting Georgia out because of
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Gunnar Stockton. And their offensive line, I think, is better.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: And I'm going to go with Georgia to win this game.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I think I've got Georgia playing Miami for the national championship.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: I don't care who Georgia's played or hasn't played. They
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: grind everybody that they play up into sausage, to sawdust,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: to mulch. And Alabama is really good. I think they're outstanding.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: They're playing at home. But I like Georgia's defense.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: They're elite. And I really think that for.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: A full four quarters, I'd love Gunnar Stockton against anybody
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: at home or on the road in a game like this.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: He is just a tough-as-nails, grit guy, and he'll keep
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Georgia in it. Not that Keyline Russell won't. Keyline is
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: a sophomore. He played a couple of games last year.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Give me older is better.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: No, I would tend to agree with you on that, right?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got an experienced guy in Gunnar Stockton.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like the old line versus
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the young line. He's been through the fires. He's played
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: in the SEC championship game, won an SEC title. He's
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: almost like a rebooted, you know, version of Stetson Bennett,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: but maybe even a little better version of Stetson Bennett.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: And Buster Faulkner coached Stetson those couple of years, 21-22
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: at Georgia, when they won back-to-back national championships.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Gunner doesn't make mistakes. You know, it's a compliment.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Because every quarterback is a game manager. When you get
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: right down to it, if they're not a good game manager,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: I don't care if they have Cam Newton talent or
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: they have Greg McIlroy talent or Keelan Russell talent. If
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: you can't manage the game and the people around you,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: it's going to get away from you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: And Keelan Russell is a special talent. I mean, there's
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: no doubt.
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: And Alabama, I said preseason, if they can't run the
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: ball better than they did last year, they're a seven
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: or eight win team. If they can, they can win
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: every game they play. Their roster is still like the
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: second or third most talented in the country, and Georgia's
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: either second or third. So this one right here is
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: going to be a great football game. I think Alabama's
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: won 10 of the last 12. But, you know, the
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: last time they played in the SEC championship game, Georgia
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: did hold Alabama the negative three yards rushing.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: This is a different Alabama team.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: With a better quarterback, and it's the first time Kaitlin
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: DeBoer has been there at Alabama where he's had one
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: of his hand-picked recruits as the starting quarterback.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: And as Chuck Oliver says, that ain't nothing.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You are correct on that. We're busy with Rob Brown.
• 32:15
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• 32:17
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• 32:20
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• 32:22
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• 32:23
  Speaker 1: so Texas is back at it. They take on Oklahoma
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: this week. Normally, I'm not a big throw-the-records guy. Some
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of these matchups, you can kind of say that. This
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is one typically, but you're going to have to have
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: a John Mateer that can play. It's going to be
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: interesting to see which version of these teams show up.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, Mateer's got– Oklahoma's got 10 or 11 turnovers.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Mateer is just self-destructing. I mean, his– Yeah. I can't
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: believe it.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Ben Arbuckle came with him at 29 years of age
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: from Washington State.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: You thought, oh, this is a match made in heaven.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: John Mateer– Last year, Jaden Ott came from Cal, big
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: running back they brought in.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: Didn't do anything. So the same thing this year.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: But Texas is the most fragile number one team that
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: I've seen.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: In a long.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: And if you think that, well, Texas is just going
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: to run all over at the Red River shootout, Oklahoma,
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: think again. Oklahoma will have something. to confuse Arch Manning.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Archie and Eli, he's not Peyton, and he damn sure
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: isn't Archie. Right now, I'd be shocked if he'd be drafted.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Third, fourth round.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, so Brent Venables, look what Tennessee did. Look
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: what their defense did with first-year coordinator Jim Knowles.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Now, he's been doing it 37 years.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Don't be surprised if Oklahoma doesn't make this A lot
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: tougher game. I mean, I think it's going to be
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: easy to pick Texas, but who are the rainmakers? You know, Wingo,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: the receiver, Cam Coleman, Cam drop Coleman. All he does
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: is drop passes. He has never made a significant touchdown
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: catch against a quality opponent in his two years at
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: Auburn and his year at Texas so far.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: So that's going to be, I think that's.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Going to be a full 60, Just remember, Brent Venables
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: will dial up defenses and get inside of Arch Manning's head.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Arch is, what, 16-3 as a starter?
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: But he struggles against elite defenses. And Oklahoma's offense is abysmal,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: but their defense is really good.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Kentucky, boy, you got to give it to Will Stein.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And what they've been able to get the most, I mean,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I said today, they've squeezed every bit of water out
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: of the sponge, right, and done it the right way.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Can they scare the daylights out of LSU Saturday?
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they can.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: LSU's like the only team right now who's in the
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: top ten in total offense and top ten in total defense.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: I think they're second or third in defense. Now, scoring
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: defense is more important. You know, what do yards mean?
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: It's what points are you giving up. But right now,
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Kentucky has won twice on the road at A & M,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: And at South Carolina, this guy Menchie, the quarterback, went
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: to St. John Paul II up in Hendersonville, Tennessee, outside
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: of Nashville. It looked like for a while that he
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: might be the starting quarterback at Notre Dame. He's really good.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Will Stein is a first-year coach. There's a lot of
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: tape on him now.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: LSU goes up there, and they'll win. They'll win that game. Again,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: you'll be surprised at how they win it, but they'll
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: win it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: What do we make of Florida after this past week?
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: I had them at eight wins before the season started,
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: and I said if they're seven and one after eight games,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: they might win them all. Well, they've still got another
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: mulligan to give, but John Summerall tried to warn people
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: that Missouri would be ready to play. Florida's really good.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: They've got a talented roster. But Aaron Filo, remember, he
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: was not a rock star coming out of high school.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: He sat on the bench a couple of years at
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Georgia Tech behind Haynes King, working with Buster Faulkner. But, again,
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: he's had those first four games. Oh, my gosh, who
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: is this guy? Now game five and six and beyond,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: there's more tape on him. The better defensive coordinators are
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: going to get with him. Now they'll beat South Carolina Saturday.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: I still think Florida's an eight win. They might win nine.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Friday, if I had a dollar for every talk show
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I listened to around the country where teams that were
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: 4-0 or 5-0 that were coming out of nowhere, they
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: look like a CFP team, I'd have a lot of dollars.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: You got to be careful about that stuff. You know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: the old saying, don't put the cart before the horse.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Everybody's doing it right now, but everybody wants instant gratification
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: because we're pumping so much money into NIL teams And
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: all the kids, I don't see kids in tears on
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: the sidelines after losses anymore. They all reminded me a
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: lot of the NFL guys. They're out there laughing and,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: you know, mucking it up with their buddies after the game,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: and they're staring at their mobile banking app to see
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: how much money they've got. We're starting to look at
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: these kids as fans with a hell of a lot
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: of resentment. And that's why I promise you it's coming.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: There's going to be an inflection point sooner than you think.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: NIL will collapse on its own weight. Used to be
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: you could get seven or eight points when you sold
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: a tax-free bond. You're lucky to get a point, point
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: and a half on a good day now.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Transparency.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: People are seeing this for what it is. Used to
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: go roster to roster. You could go end to end, Jake.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: You named every player on the Mississippi State roster or
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss or Auburn. Now, I mean, it's just like,
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: who are these guys? They're stopping by, like Chuck says,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: for a cup of coffee. You know, when they leave,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: you know, Buddy Martin said it one time, I'd love
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: to say I'm going to miss you, but I never
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: knew you.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: But it is.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: And I love it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I love the game.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: But I will say this about Mississippi State. It might
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: be the most southern campus in the Southeastern Conference. It's
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: all about Mississippi. I bet their enrollment is 60% or
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: more in-state.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: It's a lot like Auburn. They're smart.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: All these schools that are 35% in-state now are going
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: to rue the day that they gave up all of
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: this for those out-of-state tuitions.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: For what? What are you getting for it?
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: I love the Kamario Taylor story. Just confirm one thing.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: They're going to show this video.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I bleed maroon and white.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: State can still win eight or nine games, I bet.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: They've got a lot of momentum going right now.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: I love people like Camario Taylor because I think this
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: kid loves Mississippi State.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I love the guys that love the laundry.
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: To borrow a term Ivan Mizell gave me on the
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: show a couple years ago.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: And he also wrote a hell of a book about
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: Frank Leahy. It's a great read.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: But I just– give me more Kamario Taylors. That kid,
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: that's why we love college football.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: No, you're right. Let's wrap it with Ole Miss. Back
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: in action this week against Vandy. What do you want
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to see out of the Rebs?
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Man– A full 60, okay?
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: That win over Louisville ain't looking so good now that
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: Louisville's two and three. I think Ole Miss has got–
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: I've got them playing Georgia. I have to stick by
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: it for the SEC championship. I think they go on
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: the road and break out. They've got a dozen defensive
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: linemen that coaches trust. They're good. They're good at matching hands.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: You know, they see the offensive linemen with their hands
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: on their hips. They're good at matching up because they
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: know it's going to be a pass play. I think
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Ole Miss goes up there. and gets a hell of
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: a win.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: This is an Ole Miss team with a lot of talent.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: They went on the road.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: It always looked scary. There was so much emotional energy
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: spent against LSU, and they went down there in the swamp,
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: and here's Florida like a stock breaking out of its
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: 200-day moving average. It was the wrong place at the
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: wrong time, but Ole Miss will get the win Saturday
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: in Nashville. I still got them at 10-2 in the
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: regular season.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody where to get you, Rob. I know you
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: guys are going to be all over it. Another great
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: week coming up. Yeah.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Look, man, we'll have you on Friday on the round table.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: We're going to have fun. I love talking football with you.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: We are Monday through Friday, 8 to 9 a.m.
• 41:00
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• 41:08
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• 41:11
  Speaker 5: We cover the history, the traditions, and the heroes of
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: the SEC and college football. I can say we cover
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: college football in the south like kudzu, cotton, and humidity.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and we'll talk on Friday.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: All right, man. Thanks for having me.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Rob Brown on your show tonight. And before
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: we get out of here, I want to get real quickly,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and I'll put these out on social. I'm going to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: show you the– let's see, where in the world did
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: they go? There we go. So, each week I've been
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: sharing with you on social, and we'll pull them up
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: right here. This is going to be the eye test
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: rankings in the SEC. All eyes, no analytics. What the
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: eyes are seeing. We'll start at the bottom. Obviously, Arkansas,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: South Carolina, Vanderbilt, they're not any good. Those teams, Vanderbilt's
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: regressed back. Oklahoma, Auburn, Texas A & M, Tennessee, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: then Mississippi State. And, you know, when you start getting
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: into four through ten, there's a lot of flux there.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, Texas still, to me, is the best team
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: in the SEC. They have not shown it. as much as, say,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Georgia and Alabama. I think it's really close between Texas, Georgia,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and Alabama. Kentucky, yes, I know Kentucky lost to Alabama.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: They haven't really– well, they did beat Texas A & M.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: After coming off the week where they beat South Carolina
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and went for two, they look really good. Yes, Ole
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Miss beat LSU. LSU looks like they're playing a little
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: better right now. Missouri, the way they beat Florida was
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: just impressive. Florida, Ole Miss, and the Mississippi State. It's
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: the eye test rankings. that I put out each and
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: every week. No analytics on this, just straight eyes. And,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: of course, this will change week to week. And odds
• 42:46
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• 43:19
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• 43:21
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• 43:43
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