Latest / Toadstool Sports / BALLED - NFL 2026-2027 Preview w/ Clint Russell
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- 0:16Speaker 1: You got a slip in your palm and a hole
- 0:20Speaker 1: in your chest Black coffee on the felt, man, you
- 0:23Speaker 1: look like a mess Three-team parlay turned to dust in
- 0:28Speaker 1: your head Now you stare at the chips like they
- 0:32Speaker 1: made you this mad But don't you go quiet, don't
- 0:36Speaker 1: you fade from the floor Your name still means something
- 0:39Speaker 1: to somebody for sure Put the glass down, baby.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Look at me now.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on Not tonight, not now Hold.
- 0:59Speaker 2: On, hold on Let me pull you out That fella
- 1:08Speaker 2: fights hard But it don't get the crown Hold on,
- 1:16Speaker 2: hold on, stay with me now.
- 1:28Speaker 4: What's up, everybody? It's Toad back with you. This is
- 1:32Speaker 4: Bald on Toadstool Sports. Clint is back with me.
- 1:36Speaker 5: Dude, we're building out data servers just to create intros
- 1:41Speaker 5: like that.
- 1:42Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 1:43Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 4: What'd you think of that? It was, it was me,
- 1:46Speaker 4: you know, on the brink of suicide after losing a
- 1:48Speaker 4: bunch of bets. And back when I was an alcoholic
- 1:50Speaker 4: and then a woman, just the touch of a woman,
- 1:53Speaker 4: you know, causes me to stave off suicide for a
- 1:56Speaker 4: little while. What's wrong with that?
- 1:59Speaker 5: I mean, I guess there's nothing wrong with the ending,
- 2:01Speaker 5: but the, the rest of it was pretty, pretty dour. Uh,
- 2:04Speaker 5: but anyways, thrilled to be here. Uh, third time, long
- 2:08Speaker 5: time fan of the show, big, big fan of the show.
- 2:11Speaker 4: Subscribe.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:13Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you. Big fan of your show, Liberty Lockdown,
- 2:17Speaker 4: of course, and this is the third weekend in a
- 2:19Speaker 4: row that I'm seeing you as well, so kind.
- 2:21Speaker 6: Of gay in a way.
- 2:23Speaker 5: We could have four weekends in a row if you
- 2:24Speaker 5: would bring your ass to Brooklyn like you should, so.
- 2:28Speaker 4: It's true, except that I'm going to be seeing Rush.
- 2:33Speaker 6: I've got concerts to go to.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Rush!
- 2:36Speaker 4: Is Rush just a concert, though?
- 2:39Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of.
- 2:42Speaker 4: I've never seen them, man, and they're my favorite band,
- 2:44Speaker 4: so I've got to do it, even though Neil is dead.
- 2:48Speaker 4: That's not what we're here to talk about. We're here
- 2:50Speaker 4: to talk about football. We've got Outlawed Thoughts, Leighton here.
- 2:54Speaker 4: What's up, man? And Dirty Sock, who is one of
- 2:58Speaker 4: my only regular watchers. What's up, man?
- 3:04Speaker 6: That's dope. You've got a couple, man. I like it.
- 3:07Speaker 4: Yeah, just the total degenerate addicts, and they're mad at
- 3:10Speaker 4: me right now because we lost almost every play today,
- 3:14Speaker 4: except for the under in the Yankees-Padres. Everything else went
- 3:17Speaker 4: horribly as far as my bets. Including college football, two
- 3:21Speaker 4: close losses. I'm really thrilled about it.
- 3:24Speaker 6: I think you spread yourself too thin.
- 3:25Speaker 5: You ought to target two professional sports and make that
- 3:30Speaker 5: your obsession.
- 3:30Speaker 6: I think that would increase your win rate.
- 3:33Speaker 4: Maybe. Some people say that you should specialize, and I...
- 3:37Speaker 4: My specialty is being a degenerate.
- 3:41Speaker 5: My specialty historically has been NFL, but I am now
- 3:47Speaker 5: a career man, and I spend an inordinate amount of
- 3:50Speaker 5: time on politics, and I do watch all 17 Charger.
- 3:54Speaker 6: Games, but.
- 4:02Speaker 5: The whole post or the whole off season, the draft,
- 4:05Speaker 5: I don't pay attention at all.
- 4:07Speaker 6: I don't know who we got. I don't know what,
- 4:08Speaker 6: I don't know who got traded. I don't know shit.
- 4:11Speaker 5: So I just want to give that preface that if
- 4:13Speaker 5: you have any degenerate degenerates that are watching this right now,
- 4:15Speaker 5: they're like, I'm going to hear what Clint has to
- 4:18Speaker 5: say and maybe put some money on that.
- 4:19Speaker 4: Do not.
- 4:20Speaker 6: I don't know what I'm talking about. Don't do it.
- 4:22Speaker 5: And by the way, you probably shouldn't listen to Toad either,
- 4:24Speaker 5: but you're going to. So if you're going to choose
- 4:27Speaker 5: between someone to listen to, unfortunately, I have to advise
- 4:30Speaker 5: you to listen to Toad on this one.
- 4:31Speaker 4: Yeah, not on the future stuff at least. And yeah,
- 4:33Speaker 4: for those that don't know, Clint is a Chargers fan
- 4:35Speaker 4: and I am a Colts fan because I started rooting
- 4:38Speaker 4: for Peyton Manning because he was the anti-Tom Brady when
- 4:42Speaker 4: I turned on the Patriots. Although I'm like neutral on
- 4:45Speaker 4: the Patriots now though, so whatever. But I hated them
- 4:49Speaker 4: for a long time.
- 4:51Speaker 6: Shameful.
- 4:53Speaker 4: I rooted for them when they were Bill Parcells, Drew Bledsoe,
- 4:56Speaker 4: like that era. I love that shit. And then I
- 5:00Speaker 4: felt like I was betrayed.
- 5:01Speaker 5: I'm going to say this with love, but you're such
- 5:03Speaker 5: a loser that when you finally got a team that
- 5:06Speaker 5: was going to rattle off six or seven fucking Super
- 5:08Speaker 5: Bowls in a 20-year period, you're like, I'm out. I
- 5:11Speaker 5: don't want to experience all of that winning.
- 5:14Speaker 4: Yeah, that's basically it. I stuck with the Red Sox.
- 5:16Speaker 4: They've won some World Series here, but yeah. But they
- 5:20Speaker 4: still have this loser aspect to them, you know what
- 5:22Speaker 4: I mean?
- 5:24Speaker 6: Have the Red Sox won in the past 20 years?
- 5:26Speaker 6: I thought that, like, 2004.
- 5:28Speaker 4: They've won four World Series since 2004.
- 5:30Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 5:32Speaker 8: Oh, okay. Yeah.
- 5:33Speaker 4: Shows how much I'm paying attention. 0-4-0-7-13 and 18.
- 5:36Speaker 5: God, that's way too many. You guys do not deserve that.
- 5:40Speaker 5: Bostonians are just like New Yorkers, just miserable fucking people.
- 5:43Speaker 5: They get all of the championships. It's very upsetting. At
- 5:45Speaker 5: least Lakers fans, like, we appreciate it. You guys don't
- 5:48Speaker 5: even care.
- 5:48Speaker 4: I think we appreciate it. When the Celtics won, they
- 5:52Speaker 4: had been losers for, like, so long. When they won
- 5:54Speaker 4: at 0-8, they were absolute losers for my entire childhood,
- 5:58Speaker 4: and that was, like, awesome seeing them actually win, so.
- 6:00Speaker 6: You became a fan of the Colts, dude.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Yeah. And I saw them win one Super Bowl as
- 6:08Speaker 4: a fan. It was fun.
- 6:09Speaker 5: You didn't just have the greatest quarterback of all time.
- 6:13Speaker 5: You had irrefutably... Yeah, you're right.
- 6:16Speaker 4: We did. Peyton Manning. No.
- 6:18Speaker 5: You had irrefutably the greatest professional football player that has
- 6:24Speaker 5: ever walked the earth. Arguably the greatest professional athlete ever.
- 6:27Speaker 6: And you're like, I'm out.
- 6:32Speaker 4: That's right. John Black, what's up, man? You can go
- 6:36Speaker 4: talk to our friend Andy about that, about being a
- 6:38Speaker 4: Titans fan. They might slowly improve, but we should talk
- 6:42Speaker 4: about all that. Let's get into it, man. Why not?
- 6:45Speaker 6: All right, let's do it.
- 6:47Speaker 4: So I just have the teams up here. We're going
- 6:48Speaker 4: to talk about who we think is going to win
- 6:49Speaker 4: each division. I do have the odds up for each
- 6:51Speaker 4: division as well. Let's start with the AFC and go down,
- 6:55Speaker 4: I guess. So AFC East. which is Buffalo, Miami, New England,
- 7:00Speaker 4: and the New York Jets. What are your thoughts, Clint?
- 7:03Speaker 4: Who's going to win this division?
- 7:06Speaker 5: Well, I think we should always start with you telling
- 7:09Speaker 5: me who the quarterbacks are for each team because I
- 7:11Speaker 5: do not know.
- 7:12Speaker 4: Josh Allen, obviously. Josh Allen, Drake May for the Patriots.
- 7:19Speaker 4: The Jets and Miami have some changes. Yeah, so the
- 7:22Speaker 4: Jets have Geno Smith. Now, which I feel like was
- 7:27Speaker 4: he on their team once before? Oh yeah. And now
- 7:30Speaker 4: he's back. Yeah. So the jets, for some reason, they
- 7:32Speaker 4: stuck with Aaron Glenn at their coach in their coaching position.
- 7:36Speaker 4: It's going to be his second year. But what I
- 7:38Speaker 4: will say about the jets is that they set, they
- 7:42Speaker 4: had a historic year last year where they had zero
- 7:45Speaker 4: takeaways last year. No team has ever done that before.
- 7:49Speaker 6: You're kidding me.
- 7:50Speaker 4: They're deep.
- 7:50Speaker 6: That's impossible. That's impossible. No, I'm not.
- 7:54Speaker 4: It happened. It's the only time it's ever happened.
- 7:58Speaker 6: That's the craziest stat I've ever heard.
- 7:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:00Speaker 5: I mean, that was crazier. That's crazier than a team
- 8:02Speaker 5: going undefeated. You could, like, just accidentally you should get
- 8:06Speaker 5: a turnover. What the fuck?
- 8:07Speaker 4: Right. So, like, every time one of their opponents fumbled,
- 8:10Speaker 4: they never recovered any of them. And they never had
- 8:12Speaker 4: any interceptions either.
- 8:13Speaker 5: That honestly seems impossible. It's like a WNBA team playing
- 8:18Speaker 5: the fucking Celtics. It's just impossible how bad they were.
- 8:23Speaker 4: But they basically were kind of without quarterback last year,
- 8:26Speaker 4: sort of because it was Justin Fields, whatever. But now
- 8:28Speaker 4: they have Gino Smith who is somewhat legit at least.
- 8:33Speaker 4: And then Miami, they got rid of everybody. So like
- 8:36Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill is gone. And I don't even think he's
- 8:38Speaker 4: in the league anymore. He's like a total head case.
- 8:40Speaker 4: He's a child beater, a wife beater. He's like no
- 8:43Speaker 4: longer in the league. Jalen Waddle is gone. He's on Denver.
- 8:47Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 8:49Speaker 4: Two was on Atlanta. and looking awful in preseason. He
- 8:54Speaker 4: might not even be on the team for very long.
- 8:58Speaker 4: And Miami, they will be going with Malik Willis as
- 9:02Speaker 4: their starting quarterback.
- 9:05Speaker 6: Sounds like a made-up racist name.
- 9:07Speaker 4: He was the backup for Jordan Love at Green Bay,
- 9:10Speaker 4: and I actually thought he did pretty well. He's like
- 9:11Speaker 4: a dual-threat quarterback.
- 9:14Speaker 6: Literally never heard of him in my entire life. And
- 9:16Speaker 6: he's the starter for the Dolphins?
- 9:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:20Speaker 6: Wow.
- 9:21Speaker 4: He started some games when Jordan Love was hurt for
- 9:23Speaker 4: Green Bay.
- 9:25Speaker 6: All right. I have enough info to give you my answer. OK.
- 9:29Speaker 5: I don't I don't need anything extra. I go I
- 9:34Speaker 5: go Bills, Pats and then. Honestly, I think the Dolphins
- 9:40Speaker 5: are going to find a way to be better than Jets.
- 9:42Speaker 5: So that's my that's my order.
- 9:44Speaker 4: I agree with you. Bills should win this division again.
- 9:47Speaker 4: I think they're the better team. I think they should
- 9:49Speaker 4: be back on top of this division. I thought they
- 9:51Speaker 4: would have won last year. But the other thing I
- 9:53Speaker 4: actually should probably do is bring up the strength of
- 9:55Speaker 4: schedule here. uh hold on because that kind of does
- 9:58Speaker 4: matter when it's a short season.
- 10:01Speaker 6: Doesn't matter to me i've already given my answer.
- 10:03Speaker 4: All right fine whatever write it in concrete okay fine
- 10:07Speaker 4: but i agree with you and i do think the
- 10:09Speaker 4: patriots come in second i mean i think there's a
- 10:10Speaker 4: huge gap after that and then there's i.
- 10:13Speaker 5: Mean we already know straight the schedule is going to
- 10:15Speaker 5: be fucking crazy easy for the jets crazy easy for
- 10:18Speaker 5: the Dolphins and pretty hard for the, I mean, super
- 10:20Speaker 5: hard for the Pats and pretty hard for the Bulls.
- 10:21Speaker 4: I mean, generally, yeah, the teams that do well generally
- 10:24Speaker 4: have a more difficult schedule because you have to face
- 10:27Speaker 4: the teams that came in that same place as you
- 10:30Speaker 4: in the other divisions. But then it does kind of
- 10:32Speaker 4: depend on which division you're playing in the other conference.
- 10:34Speaker 4: Like you could play an easier one or a tougher one.
- 10:37Speaker 6: Yeah, of course. But these guys, I mean, they're playing,
- 10:40Speaker 6: don't they all play the same opposite divisions?
- 10:43Speaker 4: They do.
- 10:43Speaker 8: Yes.
- 10:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:44Speaker 5: So I think, I mean, obviously, I'm kind of picking
- 10:49Speaker 5: a dog because the Patriots had the better year than
- 10:52Speaker 5: the Bills last year, but I think the Bills bounced back.
- 10:54Speaker 6: It's just instinct.
- 10:56Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think Bills win the division, Patriots second,
- 10:59Speaker 4: and then I went back and forth between Miami and
- 11:01Speaker 4: the Jets because I was like, well, Miami's getting all
- 11:03Speaker 4: this hate. Nobody thinks Malik Willis is any good at all.
- 11:08Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I think he's better than
- 11:09Speaker 4: people think, but they look bad in preseason. They pretty
- 11:12Speaker 4: much lost all their weapons, though. Again, Waddle is gone.
- 11:16Speaker 4: Tyreek Hill is gone. They do have a chance still.
- 11:19Speaker 4: He's going to be like the, the guy on their
- 11:21Speaker 4: offense pretty much.
- 11:23Speaker 5: And then the jets, the jets are just such perennial losers. I,
- 11:27Speaker 5: but like Gino Smith does not be an answer.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Obviously. If they get like 15 takeaways though, and Gino
- 11:33Speaker 4: Smith does like mediocre, they should probably be good enough
- 11:38Speaker 4: to get third place in this division.
- 11:40Speaker 5: I think, I think we're, we're arguing over a five team,
- 11:43Speaker 5: five wind team versus a six wing team.
- 11:45Speaker 6: Like, Who gives a fuck? It's third or fourth for sure.
- 11:47Speaker 4: I'm going to lean that way, I think. And the
- 11:49Speaker 4: odds actually do have it that way. The odds are
- 11:51Speaker 4: not kind to the Dolphins here. Bills are the favorite
- 11:55Speaker 4: to win, minus 136. Patriots are a small underdog, plus 125.
- 11:59Speaker 4: And then Jets 19-1 and Dolphins 40-1 to win this division.
- 12:03Speaker 6: All right.
- 12:04Speaker 5: Well, then I am overly optimistic about the Dolphins, but
- 12:07Speaker 5: I think they will have a better record than the Jets.
- 12:08Speaker 6: That's just my guess.
- 12:09Speaker 4: They definitely could. I mean, I went back and forth
- 12:11Speaker 4: on that, like trying to figure out. which one I
- 12:13Speaker 4: thought would come in third place.
- 12:15Speaker 6: It's just a better franchise.
- 12:17Speaker 4: That is true. You're right about that. But the Dolphins
- 12:19Speaker 4: do have a new coach as well, so they're going
- 12:21Speaker 4: to have a lot of turnover there. Mike McDaniel's gone,
- 12:24Speaker 4: and I don't even remember who the hell their new
- 12:26Speaker 4: coach is, to be honest.
- 12:28Speaker 5: I don't either. I'm just saying it doesn't matter. The
- 12:30Speaker 5: Jets are fucking just a dumpster fire that is reignited
- 12:34Speaker 5: every offseason, and it just doesn't matter.
- 12:36Speaker 4: Yes. That seems to be the case, yeah. All right,
- 12:41Speaker 4: AFC North, which is a much stronger division, which is Ravens, Bengals, Browns,
- 12:46Speaker 4: and Steelers. So what we have going on here is
- 12:50Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is the quarterback for Baltimore. He was hurt
- 12:52Speaker 4: for a decent chunk of last year, and it seemed
- 12:54Speaker 4: like he didn't want to play for some of last year.
- 12:58Speaker 4: He will be back. He is the starting quarterback here,
- 13:00Speaker 4: but Baltimore does have a new head coach because Harbaugh left.
- 13:05Speaker 4: So the Ravens' new coach is– why don't I remember–
- 13:09Speaker 4: I should remember all this shit. Jesse Minter is their
- 13:12Speaker 4: new coach, who was the DC. You know him. Yeah,
- 13:16Speaker 4: he was the Chargers DC. Yeah, he's the head coach
- 13:18Speaker 4: for Baltimore now. Cincinnati.
- 13:21Speaker 6: Did Harbaugh retire?
- 13:23Speaker 4: No, he's the coach of the Giants now. John Harbaugh
- 13:27Speaker 4: is the coach of the Giants now, yeah.
- 13:30Speaker 6: I thought he was a lifer with the Ravens.
- 13:32Speaker 4: He's he's stepped down. He left. I think, I think
- 13:34Speaker 4: he and Lamar Jackson were not getting along or something.
- 13:37Speaker 4: There was something going on there.
- 13:38Speaker 5: That's what it sounds like to me. You don't, you
- 13:40Speaker 5: don't leave that team otherwise.
- 13:42Speaker 6: Um, okay. Keep going.
- 13:44Speaker 4: Cincinnati, Joe borrow, who seems like he's heard every single year.
- 13:48Speaker 4: He is back. He's going to start for them.
- 13:50Speaker 6: Any, any dresses like Ellen to generous. And I don't
- 13:52Speaker 6: trust that.
- 13:53Speaker 4: They have Joe Flacco backing them up. He's back from
- 13:56Speaker 4: last year as their backup. Um, Super Bowl winner, Joe Flacco.
- 14:01Speaker 4: Then Cleveland Browns have announced that Deshaun Watson is their
- 14:05Speaker 4: starting quarterback. He's the best player at getting rub and tugs.
- 14:12Speaker 4: And their quarterback situation in Cleveland is so bad that
- 14:15Speaker 4: it was either him, Dylan Gabriel, or Shadur Sanders.
- 14:23Speaker 5: Look, I'm going to be racist about it. If you've
- 14:24Speaker 5: got three black quarterbacks, you're in trouble. I don't even
- 14:26Speaker 5: know if the second one is black, but whatever.
- 14:28Speaker 6: They're in trouble.
- 14:29Speaker 4: He's mixed, I think.
- 14:33Speaker 6: Good enough for me. They're in trouble.
- 14:35Speaker 4: Yeah. And Cleveland has a new coach as well. Kevin
- 14:39Speaker 4: Stefanski is gone, and he is now the coach of
- 14:41Speaker 4: the Atlanta Falcons. And I guess there are some rumors
- 14:45Speaker 4: around that the Falcons might wind up getting Dylan Gabriel
- 14:48Speaker 4: because their quarterback situation is a total disaster right now.
- 14:51Speaker 4: But is Dylan Gabriel going to be the answer to that?
- 14:55Speaker 4: Probably not. But yeah, Cleveland... It's pretty clear Cleveland is
- 14:58Speaker 4: going to suck ass. I forget who their new head
- 15:01Speaker 4: coach even is, but they're obviously going to be the
- 15:03Speaker 4: last place team in this division. It's just a matter
- 15:05Speaker 4: of what are these other three teams going to do.
- 15:07Speaker 4: And Pittsburgh, it is going to be Aaron Rodgers' swan song.
- 15:12Speaker 4: He's back for his final year, supposedly, and he's reunited
- 15:17Speaker 4: with Mike McCarthy, who's now the coach of the Steelers,
- 15:20Speaker 4: after Mike Tomlin stepped down after having zero losing seasons
- 15:25Speaker 4: in his entire tenure. It is now Mike McCarthy. And
- 15:29Speaker 4: I think Mike McCarthy gets a bad rap because when
- 15:32Speaker 4: he was with Dallas, they obviously didn't succeed. But name
- 15:36Speaker 4: a coach that succeeded in Dallas in the last two decades.
- 15:39Speaker 4: I don't think it's the coach. I think it's the organization.
- 15:42Speaker 4: And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Mike
- 15:44Speaker 4: McCarthy was the coach of Green Bay when they won
- 15:47Speaker 4: the Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers.
- 15:49Speaker 6: With Aaron Rodgers, yeah.
- 15:50Speaker 4: So they're going to try to do it again.
- 15:52Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. So I guess that's a good... reuniting.
- 15:58Speaker 7: Um, yeah.
- 15:59Speaker 4: And Pittsburgh has, uh, kind of improved their, uh, offensive
- 16:02Speaker 4: weaponry because last year their offense really didn't have too
- 16:05Speaker 4: many weapons around him, but they do have DK Metcalf. Uh,
- 16:08Speaker 4: they picked up Rico Dowdle, uh, over the off season.
- 16:11Speaker 4: He was really good last year.
- 16:13Speaker 6: Uh, sounds, sounds like a made up racist name again
- 16:15Speaker 6: for Carolina.
- 16:16Speaker 4: He, uh, he filled in for Chubba Hubbard when he
- 16:19Speaker 4: was hurt and Dowdle was massive for my fantasy team
- 16:22Speaker 4: last year. He's on the Steelers now behind it, Jalen Warren.
- 16:26Speaker 4: So they have, a little bit more offensive weaponry here.
- 16:28Speaker 4: And they got Michael Pittman from my Indianapolis Colts. So
- 16:33Speaker 4: Rogers does at least have some guys around him here.
- 16:35Speaker 4: And that's, what's going on with the, uh, the Pittsburgh
- 16:39Speaker 4: situation there. Yeah.
- 16:41Speaker 5: I think, uh, I think TK Metcalf with Aaron Rogers
- 16:44Speaker 5: could be really interesting.
- 16:45Speaker 4: So, um, all right. I think he was there last
- 16:49Speaker 4: year too, though, if I remember correctly.
- 16:53Speaker 6: It wasn't Rogers out heard a lot or am I tripping?
- 16:56Speaker 4: No, Rodgers, I think, stayed healthy last year.
- 16:59Speaker 6: Oh, he did, finally.
- 17:00Speaker 4: Okay, good.
- 17:02Speaker 6: All right. I think I know enough to answer.
- 17:05Speaker 4: It's the ayahuasca, man. Keeps you healthy.
- 17:12Speaker 6: Yeah, doesn't get you much in terms of winning, but
- 17:15Speaker 6: I will go.
- 17:19Speaker 4: This one's tough. This division's tough.
- 17:21Speaker 6: I think, I mean... I think the top and the
- 17:24Speaker 6: bottom is pretty easy, but the middle is pretty hard
- 17:26Speaker 6: for me. All right.
- 17:28Speaker 5: So I go, I think Ravens are going to take it.
- 17:30Speaker 5: I think the, the Browns.
- 17:32Speaker 6: Will be the worst.
- 17:33Speaker 5: And then the two, the two, three are the hard,
- 17:37Speaker 5: hard decision for me. What did the Bengals do in
- 17:41Speaker 5: the off season?
- 17:41Speaker 4: Did they, they're not, not a whole lot. I mean,
- 17:45Speaker 4: I think they're pretty much the same. Like they need
- 17:48Speaker 4: to improve their defense pretty much. I don't know if
- 17:50Speaker 4: they really did that. Their defense has been their main problem.
- 17:52Speaker 4: That and, borrow just gets hurt every single year. So
- 17:55Speaker 4: if he's healthy, their offense is insane.
- 17:57Speaker 5: I'm telling you, the reason he gets hurt all the
- 17:59Speaker 5: time is because he dresses like a fucking gay woman.
- 18:01Speaker 6: I honestly think he's.
- 18:03Speaker 4: Never, he's never going to win at all. Just because
- 18:05Speaker 4: of that. He's been in one Superbowl, almost.
- 18:07Speaker 6: One dresses like a gay woman.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Why not?
- 18:10Speaker 6: Fucking weird.
- 18:11Speaker 4: He has a fashion consultant. I saw it. He was
- 18:13Speaker 4: on a, he was on Netflix quarterback, uh, last year
- 18:16Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 18:17Speaker 6: Dude, I bet his fashion consultant is a gay woman.
- 18:19Speaker 4: Um, no, no, he was a gay guy.
- 18:22Speaker 6: Uh, Same difference.
- 18:24Speaker 4: And so is Burrow, really.
- 18:29Speaker 5: Just out of pure sentimentality, I'm going to say Steelers
- 18:33Speaker 5: and then Bengals is third, but honestly, I think the
- 18:37Speaker 5: Bengals will probably be the second, but I'll go the
- 18:39Speaker 5: other way just for fucking swan song.
- 18:43Speaker 4: I love Rodgers, dude. I mean, I think the advantage
- 18:45Speaker 4: that Cincinnati might have is that they have more continuity
- 18:48Speaker 4: because they have the same coach, same players pretty much,
- 18:51Speaker 4: and then it's a matter of Who stays healthy in
- 18:54Speaker 4: this division? The Ravens are plus 102, so they are
- 18:57Speaker 4: the favorite to win, but it's really close. Bengals plus 164.
- 19:01Speaker 4: Steelers not looking very good at 5-1, basically, plus 5-10.
- 19:04Speaker 4: And then the Browns, yeah, good luck, 21. Browns, yeah,
- 19:10Speaker 4: whatever that is. Yeah, so Steelers 5-1, Browns 21-1. I
- 19:13Speaker 4: don't know, man. I kind of lean Bengals here, but
- 19:19Speaker 4: it depends on whether or not they stay healthy. to
- 19:21Speaker 4: get the division here. I'd like to see the Steelers
- 19:24Speaker 4: do it because I like Rodgers, but I kind of
- 19:26Speaker 4: think it's going to be Bengals, then Ravens, then Steelers. However,
- 19:30Speaker 4: I think all three of them might actually make the playoffs.
- 19:34Speaker 5: Oh, I doubt that. I seriously doubt that with the
- 19:36Speaker 5: fucking AFC West.
- 19:38Speaker 4: You get three wild cards now, though. There's no wild
- 19:41Speaker 4: card coming out. Well, actually, you're right. The Patriots actually.
- 19:44Speaker 4: Are the Patriots going to miss the playoffs?
- 19:47Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, I didn't.
- 19:49Speaker 8: Maybe.
- 19:50Speaker 4: They had an easy schedule last year.
- 19:52Speaker 6: They overperformed.
- 19:53Speaker 5: I think they are extraordinarily overrated, and I know I'm
- 19:56Speaker 5: saying that about a Super Bowl team, but that's how
- 19:58Speaker 5: I feel.
- 19:59Speaker 4: I gave out their season win total under as one
- 20:01Speaker 4: of my best win totals, if I remember correctly. Patriots
- 20:05Speaker 4: win total under. And it's, you know, that there's, there's
- 20:08Speaker 4: the curse, the team that loses the Superbowl, like the
- 20:11Speaker 4: last few of them have not even made the playoffs
- 20:14Speaker 4: the next year. They tend to be horrible. It keeps happening.
- 20:18Speaker 4: And the Mike Vrabel situation might be a bit of a,
- 20:21Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what the word I'm
- 20:24Speaker 4: looking for is a distraction, I guess. Cause you know,
- 20:26Speaker 4: the whole affair thing with Mike Vrabel, I don't know
- 20:29Speaker 4: if that's going to affect the team at all.
- 20:33Speaker 6: I mean, was he married? Is that why it's a scandal?
- 20:35Speaker 4: He was married and the woman that he was banging
- 20:37Speaker 4: was also married. All right.
- 20:40Speaker 6: I guess it is a scandal then.
- 20:42Speaker 5: Um, honestly, I don't know that that'll matter that much.
- 20:46Speaker 5: I think it's going to come down to the players
- 20:48Speaker 5: in that regard. And I just think that the Patriots
- 20:51Speaker 5: were the most, I I've never seen a team that
- 20:55Speaker 5: I thought less of go as far as they did in,
- 20:57Speaker 5: in the playoffs last year. I, I kind of agree
- 21:01Speaker 5: with that.
- 21:01Speaker 4: I mean, they, um, probably should have lost that game
- 21:03Speaker 4: to Houston in the playoffs. I mean, there were definitely
- 21:06Speaker 4: opportunities for other teams to knock the, the chargers could
- 21:09Speaker 4: have beaten them as well.
- 21:11Speaker 5: I mean, every, every single, I picked against them in
- 21:13Speaker 5: every single game and they managed to win every single
- 21:15Speaker 5: game until the super bowl. So look, they've proved me
- 21:18Speaker 5: wrong before, but I'm going to fucking, I'm going to
- 21:20Speaker 5: quadruple down and say that they, uh, they eat shit
- 21:22Speaker 5: next season.
- 21:23Speaker 4: Well, this season, their schedule gets harder this year, except
- 21:26Speaker 4: they do get to play Miami and the jets twice
- 21:28Speaker 4: each though.
- 21:29Speaker 6: That'll, that'll help a lot.
- 21:31Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 21:33Speaker 4: But their out-of-division schedule is not very easy. All right,
- 21:37Speaker 4: so you think the Ravens win? Yeah, I mean, I
- 21:39Speaker 4: think it's close between Ravens, Cincinnati. I would love to
- 21:41Speaker 4: see the Steelers do it, and I think they'll be
- 21:43Speaker 4: in the mix towards the end of the season because.
- 21:45Speaker 5: It seems like they always are. The Bengals are just
- 21:48Speaker 5: such a weird team. They're so hard to analyze, in
- 21:53Speaker 5: my opinion. Sometimes they look fully loaded, and then they
- 21:57Speaker 5: come out, and they have a 6-11 season. You're like,
- 21:59Speaker 5: what the fuck? I don't even understand this team. So
- 22:02Speaker 5: that's how I feel about them. I don't have a
- 22:04Speaker 5: strong opinion.
- 22:04Speaker 4: Every time borrow, like actually stays healthy though. I think
- 22:07Speaker 4: they basically make the playoffs though. So we'll see. And
- 22:11Speaker 4: I need him to do that because he's my fantasy
- 22:13Speaker 4: quarterback this year in my main league.
- 22:15Speaker 6: So good luck.
- 22:18Speaker 4: We'll see. Uh, AFC South, which people continue to think
- 22:22Speaker 4: this is the worst division here. And maybe it is
- 22:25Speaker 4: in the AFC at least, uh, which is Houston, Indianapolis, Jacksonville,
- 22:29Speaker 4: and Tennessee. Um, Not a ton of changes going on here.
- 22:33Speaker 4: I mean, Houston is still the same coach.
- 22:35Speaker 5: I think I only know the quarterback for one team.
- 22:40Speaker 4: Houston, C.J. Stroud. Indianapolis has Daniel Jones, who was really
- 22:44Speaker 4: good before he got hurt. He broke his leg in
- 22:46Speaker 4: the middle of the season last year. And he is
- 22:49Speaker 4: now back, so he will be the starter. Jacksonville has
- 22:52Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, and they were a surprise somewhat last year.
- 22:55Speaker 4: I thought they were going to win the division last year, Jacksonville, though,
- 22:58Speaker 4: and they did actually do that. But they might... Possibly
- 23:01Speaker 4: take a step back this year. And then Tennessee has
- 23:04Speaker 4: some changes going on. They have Robert Sala as their
- 23:07Speaker 4: head coach now, who was the defensive coordinator for San Francisco.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Then he was the head coach for the Jets. Then
- 23:13Speaker 4: he was the defensive coordinator for San Francisco. Now he's
- 23:16Speaker 4: the head coach of Tennessee. And they have Cam Ward,
- 23:19Speaker 4: who is going to be in his second year now
- 23:21Speaker 4: as quarterback there.
- 23:22Speaker 6: Did Cam Ward have a good rookie season? I don't remember.
- 23:25Speaker 4: He was... he was decent. I mean, I, I'm not
- 23:29Speaker 4: sold on him being that good, but I mean, no,
- 23:34Speaker 4: not even close. I think they won like four games.
- 23:36Speaker 6: All right. Well then he wasn't that good.
- 23:40Speaker 4: I mean, the team wasn't exactly good around him, but yeah.
- 23:43Speaker 6: Yeah. But I mean, if you have a really solid quarterback,
- 23:46Speaker 6: you're going to win at least six or seven games.
- 23:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:50Speaker 8: Fair.
- 23:50Speaker 4: I mean, like it happened with like Vince Young, if
- 23:52Speaker 4: you remember when he, cause I just watched the, Netflix
- 23:54Speaker 4: documentary around him. He came in and Tennessee immediately like
- 23:57Speaker 4: made the playoffs pretty much with him there. And then
- 23:59Speaker 4: he was just crazy and they couldn't handle him. He,
- 24:03Speaker 4: he and Jeff Fisher didn't get along. And then it
- 24:05Speaker 4: was like, Oh yeah, he's just going to fail in
- 24:07Speaker 4: the NFL now.
- 24:08Speaker 6: So the draft of the white guy. All right, let's go.
- 24:12Speaker 6: I'm going to say after saying that racist statement, I'm
- 24:17Speaker 6: going to go back on it right now and say,
- 24:20Speaker 6: I think the Texans bounce back with Stroud, and he
- 24:22Speaker 6: has a good year, and they take the division.
- 24:24Speaker 4: I agree.
- 24:25Speaker 6: Oh, interesting.
- 24:26Speaker 5: All right, so I go Texans. Let's kind of make
- 24:32Speaker 5: or break for the Jags, in my opinion.
- 24:36Speaker 4: They got a good offense, but I don't know if
- 24:38Speaker 4: I'm sold on their defense.
- 24:41Speaker 6: Yeah, I go Texans, Jags, Colts, Titans. That's my pick.
- 24:44Speaker 8: I agree.
- 24:46Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah. I mean, the Colts, if you remember,
- 24:50Speaker 4: they were really on fire when they had Jones last year.
- 24:52Speaker 4: It was a resurgence for him after people were just
- 24:56Speaker 4: bad-mouthing him. But I'm like, dude, he did win a
- 24:58Speaker 4: playoff game once, at least when he was with the Giants.
- 25:00Speaker 4: He looked really good last year. The Colts looked really good.
- 25:03Speaker 4: They were like a one-loss team, and then he broke
- 25:05Speaker 4: his leg, and then everything fell apart, and then they
- 25:07Speaker 4: didn't even make the playoffs. I think people forget that.
- 25:10Speaker 4: So the Colts may do better here as well.
- 25:12Speaker 5: They were the surprise of the first. 10 games of
- 25:17Speaker 5: last season, I remember that.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Yeah, and I tend to think Jacksonville is going to
- 25:21Speaker 4: take a little bit of a step back because I
- 25:23Speaker 4: think they overperformed a little bit last year. But Houston's
- 25:25Speaker 4: got the best defense here, so I think they will
- 25:28Speaker 4: find a way to win this division.
- 25:30Speaker 5: In fact, I remember that about the Colts very well
- 25:32Speaker 5: because my Chargers were fighting for a wild card against them,
- 25:35Speaker 5: so I was rooting against them, and they just imploded.
- 25:37Speaker 6: It was great.
- 25:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I was not happy about that, as you know.
- 25:42Speaker 4: Houston did make the playoffs still last year, and they
- 25:44Speaker 4: were plus 105 to win this division. The Jags are
- 25:47Speaker 4: plus 245. Colts plus 425. Tennessee not even really that
- 25:51Speaker 4: bad at 8-1, so this division is really kind of
- 25:54Speaker 4: wide open. It's kind of a cluster here.
- 25:56Speaker 6: I went chalk on it.
- 25:59Speaker 4: But I agree with that, though. I think Houston just
- 26:01Speaker 4: gets back to the top, and they're always right there
- 26:03Speaker 4: in the mix in this division.
- 26:06Speaker 6: I like the defense, but I think that those odds
- 26:09Speaker 6: make sense at least.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with your ordering there, and the oddsmakers
- 26:15Speaker 4: also do. And then we have your division, the AFC West, Denver,
- 26:19Speaker 4: Kansas City, the Raiders, and your Chargers.
- 26:25Speaker 6: Let's just get the Raiders out of the way last.
- 26:28Speaker 6: I mean, I agree.
- 26:29Speaker 4: The Raiders have made a bunch of changes. They got
- 26:32Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak, I believe, is now their coach. You probably
- 26:36Speaker 4: like his name, at least.
- 26:37Speaker 6: As a fellow Clint, I'm sympathetic, yeah.
- 26:39Speaker 4: He was the defensive coordinator for Seattle, I believe. So
- 26:42Speaker 4: he is now with the Raiders, and the Raiders have
- 26:45Speaker 4: new quarterbacking as they drafted Fernando Mendoza, but he's not
- 26:48Speaker 4: going to start the season because they want him to learn.
- 26:50Speaker 4: That's a catastrophe.
- 26:52Speaker 6: You can't have a Mexican quarterback. What are they doing?
- 26:55Speaker 4: He seems pretty white.
- 26:56Speaker 6: Is he going to kick the ball? I mean, this
- 26:58Speaker 6: is fucking retarded.
- 26:59Speaker 7: Maybe.
- 27:00Speaker 4: But they're not starting him right away because they want
- 27:02Speaker 4: him to learn.
- 27:02Speaker 6: And get used to the NFL. He'll never even see
- 27:04Speaker 6: the field, ever.
- 27:05Speaker 4: The Raiders' starting quarterback is Kirk Cousins. He's back, baby.
- 27:10Speaker 4: I actually like Kirk Cousins. I like him, too. He
- 27:14Speaker 4: was decent last year, and I was kind of sad
- 27:16Speaker 4: when he got hurt when he was on Atlanta, but
- 27:19Speaker 4: he is the starter for the Raiders to start the season,
- 27:21Speaker 4: and then you pretty much know everything else. I mean,
- 27:23Speaker 4: all the other teams have the same coach and quarterback.
- 27:26Speaker 4: Mahomes is back for Kansas City, as we discussed a
- 27:29Speaker 4: little while ago. Denver, Bo Nix will be back as well,
- 27:33Speaker 4: and Justin Herbert, quarterback for the Chargers. And it is
- 27:36Speaker 4: Jim Harbaugh's year three, which is usually a good year
- 27:40Speaker 4: for a head coach. Usually, you know, the system is
- 27:43Speaker 4: like completely in place and the team takes a nice
- 27:45Speaker 4: step forward. So that's good news for the Chargers.
- 27:50Speaker 6: What was the, was it Broncos or the Chargers who
- 27:52Speaker 6: took the division last year?
- 27:55Speaker 4: Broncos. I'm pretty sure. I think they had a pretty
- 27:59Speaker 4: easy schedule though, but their defense is like totally legit.
- 28:03Speaker 4: I'm still not totally sold on a Bo Nix, but
- 28:06Speaker 4: they do have Jalen Waddle there now from Miami. So
- 28:09Speaker 4: another weapon on their offense there.
- 28:12Speaker 5: I'm, I'm done sleeping on Nix. I, uh, I hated
- 28:16Speaker 5: on him all last season. And I was like, this kid,
- 28:18Speaker 5: he's got, he's got it, dude. I don't know what,
- 28:21Speaker 5: I don't know what it is. He kind of reminds
- 28:23Speaker 5: me of, uh, kind of reminds me of Drew Brees
- 28:26Speaker 5: a little bit like undersized guy that you just, you
- 28:29Speaker 5: don't think he should be winning as many games as
- 28:32Speaker 5: he does. And he just finds a way. So I, uh,
- 28:36Speaker 5: but I, I'm, I'm still going to be a Homer here. I, I,
- 28:39Speaker 5: I think it goes chargers, Broncos, chiefs, Raiders.
- 28:42Speaker 7: Whoa.
- 28:43Speaker 4: And the chiefs, by the way, they did improve one
- 28:45Speaker 4: of their biggest problem points, which was the running back, uh, position.
- 28:50Speaker 4: They went out and they got Kenneth Walker, the third,
- 28:52Speaker 4: the power back from Seattle. So that should improve Kansas city.
- 28:57Speaker 4: And if my home stays healthy, uh, Yeah, I mean,
- 28:59Speaker 4: they're still a legit team. Andy Reid there, whatever. A
- 29:02Speaker 4: lot of good coaching in this division.
- 29:04Speaker 5: Yeah, to be clear, I'm not saying they're going to
- 29:06Speaker 5: be garbage. I'm just saying I think it's going to
- 29:08Speaker 5: be a bunch of 10, 11, 12 win teams, and
- 29:12Speaker 5: it's going to be tight.
- 29:14Speaker 6: At the top, and then the Raiders will be trailing.
- 29:17Speaker 4: Yes, I think the Raiders are last place. I mean,
- 29:19Speaker 4: it's going to take time for them to build this thing, whatever.
- 29:23Speaker 4: I think I agree with, I think the Chargers win
- 29:25Speaker 4: the division. I think the third year for Harbaugh, I
- 29:28Speaker 4: think I like that. And people tend to not love
- 29:31Speaker 4: it just because they tend to play this like possession style.
- 29:34Speaker 4: They kind of slow the game down. Like the public
- 29:35Speaker 4: doesn't really love that. And they just seem to always
- 29:38Speaker 4: be undervalued. So I think the Chargers, might be able
- 29:41Speaker 4: to do it. I think the Broncos did overperform. I
- 29:44Speaker 4: think Kansas City second place and Denver third, I think,
- 29:48Speaker 4: is what I would do in this division. I think
- 29:51Speaker 4: it's close. What are the odds, Sam? I don't even remember.
- 29:55Speaker 4: Kansas City plus 170, Chargers plus 190, Broncos plus 210.
- 29:59Speaker 4: It couldn't be any closer, really. It's just a total cluster.
- 30:03Speaker 4: Any one of those three could win. And the Raiders
- 30:06Speaker 4: are 20-1, so good luck to them.
- 30:08Speaker 5: I think those odds are exactly right, though. Well, maybe
- 30:10Speaker 5: not exactly right, but to have it basically be double
- 30:14Speaker 5: your money on any of those three teams to win
- 30:16Speaker 5: the division is right. Any of those three teams could
- 30:19Speaker 5: win it. Honestly, the smart bet is probably the Chiefs
- 30:22Speaker 5: because they had such a bad year. Mahomes is a
- 30:26Speaker 5: Hall of Fame talent, and they'll probably have a bounce-back season.
- 30:29Speaker 5: But I think that it is– I said it's kind
- 30:33Speaker 5: of make or break for the Jags. I think it's
- 30:35Speaker 5: kind of make or break for the Chargers to get
- 30:39Speaker 5: a playoff win at least. They've got to take a
- 30:41Speaker 5: step forward. You've had a lot of seasons now of
- 30:48Speaker 5: good– approaching great and then falling on your face over
- 30:51Speaker 5: and over again so i really i really hope that
- 30:54Speaker 5: the chargers find a way to to uncuff herbert a
- 30:56Speaker 5: little bit i think he's i think he's an elite
- 30:59Speaker 5: talent like maybe the bet maybe the best talent the
- 31:03Speaker 5: chargers have ever had at the quarterback position but you
- 31:05Speaker 5: gotta fucking you gotta let the kid you know play
- 31:08Speaker 5: and yes i understand that harbaugh's style is to have
- 31:12Speaker 5: him uh you know to run you know kind of
- 31:16Speaker 5: accept you know.
- 31:18Speaker 6: Accept conservative play calling.
- 31:20Speaker 5: And, but I, I really, I really think he's such,
- 31:23Speaker 5: he's such a great talent that they ought to, they
- 31:24Speaker 5: ought to let him rip a little bit.
- 31:28Speaker 4: Yes. Thank you, sir. Carded sin or whatever the hell
- 31:31Speaker 4: this guy's name is. Thank you, man. Yeah. Like it
- 31:34Speaker 4: seems like Herbert has kind of been hurt some of
- 31:37Speaker 4: these seasons too, but so you think Herbert is actually
- 31:39Speaker 4: better than true breeze and better than Phillip rivers. Is
- 31:43Speaker 4: that what you just said?
- 31:45Speaker 6: In terms of talent, in terms of talent? Absolutely. Yeah.
- 31:48Speaker 4: Just, yeah, like sheer arm talent. I don't know, man. Breeze?
- 31:51Speaker 4: Breeze is pretty good, man.
- 31:53Speaker 5: He's like 6'6. He's faster. He's more mobile. He's more nimble.
- 31:58Speaker 5: He's got a stronger arm. I mean, he's fucking... He's
- 32:01Speaker 5: unbelievably talented. Unbelievably talented.
- 32:04Speaker 4: All right. And one other note.
- 32:07Speaker 6: That doesn't mean.
- 32:08Speaker 5: That doesn't mean he'll... Like, I think Rivers and Breeze
- 32:10Speaker 5: are Hall of Famers, but I think that Herbert has...
- 32:14Speaker 5: the potential to be a top 10 quarterback all time.
- 32:16Speaker 5: If they like really find a way to, to surround him,
- 32:20Speaker 5: give him a solid old line, keep him healthy. You know,
- 32:22Speaker 5: like he's got, he's got elite talent.
- 32:24Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 32:25Speaker 4: And rivers, I believe was already, I think nominated to
- 32:28Speaker 4: be in the hall of fame, but then because he
- 32:29Speaker 4: played last year, he came out of retirement to play
- 32:32Speaker 4: for the Colts. And it was a fun, fun time.
- 32:34Speaker 4: That was dope. That was awesome. Now he can't be
- 32:36Speaker 4: in the hall of fame that for like five more years,
- 32:39Speaker 4: he can't be in the hall of fame because of that.
- 32:42Speaker 5: I loved it, dude. It was like, I'm such a
- 32:44Speaker 5: huge Philip Rivers fan. Don't take my compliments of Herbert
- 32:48Speaker 5: as diminishing Rivers, but let's just be honest. Rivers was
- 32:51Speaker 5: a fucking statue, scarecrow, whatever you want to call him.
- 32:54Speaker 5: I mean, he had zero mobility. He was very accurate,
- 33:00Speaker 5: and his football IQ was extraordinary, but his arm was not.
- 33:06Speaker 5: Breeze had a cannon and incredible pinpoint accuracy for a
- 33:10Speaker 5: guy his size, and he also was fairly mobile, but
- 33:12Speaker 5: he was undersized. He would get a lot of passes
- 33:15Speaker 5: knocked down at the line of scrimmage. Herbert is the
- 33:18Speaker 5: prototypical beast mode monster. I mean, he's so fucking spectacular.
- 33:24Speaker 5: So that's the reason I'm so hyped on him.
- 33:27Speaker 6: All right.
- 33:27Speaker 4: You got a crush on him, man. It's fine.
- 33:29Speaker 6: I really think highly of him. I really, really do.
- 33:32Speaker 4: It makes sense. One more note, the Chargers no longer
- 33:35Speaker 4: have Keenan Allen after he was on my fantasy team
- 33:37Speaker 4: last year, and they had him back last year. He
- 33:41Speaker 4: joined my Indianapolis Colts, and then he immediately got a DUI,
- 33:44Speaker 4: and now it seems like his season is in jeopardy.
- 33:48Speaker 6: Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I was a big
- 33:50Speaker 6: fan of his.
- 33:52Speaker 4: Well, he might play.
- 33:53Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 33:53Speaker 4: I mean, DUI.
- 33:54Speaker 5: Oh, I don't give a fuck if he plays for you.
- 33:56Speaker 5: I'm sorry that we lost him.
- 33:57Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
- 33:58Speaker 4: I mean, go lean in on him, man. Well, he's
- 34:00Speaker 4: old now anyway, but yeah. All right. And he was
- 34:02Speaker 4: on the Bears, I think, at one point and like
- 34:04Speaker 4: in between his seasons with the Chargers. All right. And
- 34:11Speaker 4: as far as like the AFC, any thoughts on who's
- 34:13Speaker 4: going to win the AFC?
- 34:16Speaker 6: Let's do that after we do the NFC.
- 34:17Speaker 4: You want to do it afterwards? All right, NFC, NFC East, Dallas,
- 34:21Speaker 4: New York Giants, Philadelphia, and Washington. The biggest changes here,
- 34:25Speaker 4: I mean, pretty much most of these teams are kind
- 34:27Speaker 4: of staying the same, except one thing I did forget
- 34:29Speaker 4: to mention with the Patriots, they do have A.J. Brown
- 34:31Speaker 4: now who left. He basically wanted out from the Eagles,
- 34:34Speaker 4: and they traded him to the Patriots. So A.J. Brown
- 34:37Speaker 4: is now in the Patriots.
- 34:39Speaker 6: That's a big asset.
- 34:40Speaker 4: They're number one wide receiver now, so that will help
- 34:42Speaker 4: their offense. That should help me a lot. Yeah. Eagles
- 34:47Speaker 4: pretty much are going to be basically the same other
- 34:50Speaker 4: than that. Washington, it's going to depend on Jaden Daniels
- 34:53Speaker 4: staying healthy because he gets hurt a lot at this point,
- 34:56Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens with him. I believe he's
- 34:59Speaker 4: ready to go to start the season. Dallas is Dak Prescott.
- 35:03Speaker 4: They've got a lot of weapons on that offense. CeeDee
- 35:05Speaker 4: Lamb and George Pickens, who was on the Steelers for
- 35:09Speaker 4: a while.
- 35:10Speaker 5: To me, the Cowboys are just like the Bengals. You
- 35:12Speaker 5: never have any clue what they're going to do.
- 35:14Speaker 4: And also, just like the Bengals, they're going to have
- 35:16Speaker 4: a really good offense, and their defense is probably going
- 35:18Speaker 4: to suck, because that's what keeps happening. And the Giants
- 35:21Speaker 4: are kind of a complete wild card, because they have
- 35:23Speaker 4: John Harbaugh now as their coach, and Jackson Dart will
- 35:27Speaker 4: be in his second year, and they have Scadaboo is back,
- 35:33Speaker 4: after he was hurt for a lot of the year
- 35:34Speaker 4: last year.
- 35:35Speaker 6: I think very highly of John Harbaugh.
- 35:39Speaker 5: So, that definitely is going to tilt me a little bit,
- 35:43Speaker 5: but Obviously, I still don't think they win the division.
- 35:47Speaker 4: No. That would be a very difficult ask in this division, yeah.
- 35:52Speaker 6: Commanders had a terrible season, right?
- 35:55Speaker 4: They did. Daniels was hurt for a lot of it,
- 35:57Speaker 4: but their defense has some problems, and they had Debo
- 36:00Speaker 4: Samuel last year, and I don't think that worked out
- 36:03Speaker 4: for a while. I believe Debo might be back with
- 36:05Speaker 4: San Francisco again. I don't know. I forget where he is.
- 36:08Speaker 4: He's not in Washington anymore.
- 36:10Speaker 6: This is a really hard division to pick, like the
- 36:12Speaker 6: lineup of four. Yeah. I don't know.
- 36:15Speaker 5: I mean, it's hard for me at least. Um, I'll go,
- 36:18Speaker 5: I'll go, I'm going to say bounce back for the commanders,
- 36:23Speaker 5: even though I want to call them the Redskins Eagles, commanders, Cowboys, giants.
- 36:28Speaker 4: I call them the Redskins. So you're saying Eagles win again,
- 36:31Speaker 4: then Washington, Dallas, and then the giants. That's yeah. Uh,
- 36:35Speaker 4: pretty reasonable.
- 36:36Speaker 5: I think the Eagles just haven't given me a reason
- 36:38Speaker 5: to think that they're going to fall off.
- 36:39Speaker 4: So I agree, even though they don't have A.J. Brown.
- 36:43Speaker 4: I mean, it seems like, yeah, it's just their division
- 36:46Speaker 4: every year. I kind of agree. I think they're going
- 36:48Speaker 4: to just win it again. I still think Dallas second, and, oh, man.
- 36:54Speaker 4: I think maybe Giants third and Redskins last, I think
- 37:01Speaker 4: is what I'm going to go with. Maybe I'm too
- 37:03Speaker 4: much of a Dart fan, Dart homer, but it's just
- 37:05Speaker 4: such a wild card for that team. But then, can
- 37:08Speaker 4: Dart and Scadaboo stay healthy, right? Because they just, they
- 37:11Speaker 4: go out there and they put their bodies at risk
- 37:13Speaker 4: all the time. You know what I mean?
- 37:15Speaker 6: I love, I love.
- 37:18Speaker 5: With these two, like diamond in the rough style players.
- 37:21Speaker 5: Like I think that he could, he could turn them
- 37:22Speaker 5: into something special. I, I just, I just have no
- 37:25Speaker 5: reason to put them above any of the other three
- 37:27Speaker 5: teams at this point, but that doesn't mean that they
- 37:30Speaker 5: won't surprise me.
- 37:32Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. I don't love Washington. Just, I think there
- 37:35Speaker 4: was kind of a flash in the pan that first
- 37:37Speaker 4: year with Daniels. I think he's kind of been figured
- 37:39Speaker 4: out now, but we do have, Eagles at plus 122.
- 37:43Speaker 4: So they are the odds on favor to win. Cowboys
- 37:45Speaker 4: plus 184. Washington and the Giants both at six to one.
- 37:49Speaker 4: So this is like, this is a really tight division
- 37:51Speaker 4: here based on the odds.
- 37:52Speaker 7: Yep.
- 37:53Speaker 6: I think that's right though.
- 37:54Speaker 4: Kind of crazy. Yeah. So yeah, I think I'm going
- 37:57Speaker 4: to stick with the ordering that I just had, but yeah,
- 37:59Speaker 4: maybe I'm too much of a giant Homer, but we'll see.
- 38:02Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't like Washington's defense. So that's kind
- 38:05Speaker 4: of the thing. Although the Giants lost Dexter Lawrence, I
- 38:08Speaker 4: think was that his name? He wanted out, and they
- 38:11Speaker 4: wound up getting rid of him.
- 38:12Speaker 6: What's the quarterback's name for the Redskins? Daniels?
- 38:16Speaker 4: Yeah, Jaden Daniels. I don't know if it's a distraction.
- 38:19Speaker 4: You saw that thing with Daniels. He got mad because
- 38:23Speaker 4: LSU didn't retire his number, and they let somebody else
- 38:25Speaker 4: wear his number. that whole thing was ridiculous. And then
- 38:28Speaker 4: it blew, it became a meme concept on Twitter where
- 38:31Speaker 4: like basically everybody was like breaking news, Jane Daniels, Sue's,
- 38:36Speaker 4: you know, um, subway for the usage of the term
- 38:39Speaker 4: $ 5 foot long. It's like nobody could use the number five.
- 38:43Speaker 6: Oh yeah. Um, I did.
- 38:46Speaker 5: Well, maybe you don't like that. Maybe the internet doesn't
- 38:49Speaker 5: like that. I kind of liked that. I liked that
- 38:51Speaker 5: a kid, you know, he had, I was, I was
- 38:54Speaker 5: absolutely jaw dropped by his performance as a rookie. I
- 38:57Speaker 5: thought it was really something special. So I'd be surprised
- 39:01Speaker 5: if he doesn't have a big bounce back season, but
- 39:04Speaker 5: you know, maybe he's some egotistical flash in the pan.
- 39:06Speaker 6: I just kind of doubt it.
- 39:07Speaker 4: All right. Yeah. And last year was the second year
- 39:10Speaker 4: and he was injured for a lot of it. So yeah.
- 39:14Speaker 4: NFC North, we have the Chicago bears. You want to
- 39:18Speaker 4: speak of, I don't know, quarterbacks that might be a
- 39:20Speaker 4: flash in the pan or, Ones that might be homosexual even.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Caleb Williams.
- 39:25Speaker 6: Slashed in the bedroom.
- 39:26Speaker 4: Although I heard Caleb Williams got rid of his beard
- 39:28Speaker 4: and he now has a mustache that somehow makes him
- 39:31Speaker 4: look less gay and he stopped painting his fingernails, so
- 39:34Speaker 4: I have no idea. You got Detroit here with Dan
- 39:39Speaker 4: Campbell still there. Jared Goff is still there. They still
- 39:41Speaker 4: have a lot of talent on that offense. Not a
- 39:43Speaker 4: ton of changes from last year to this year. Green Bay.
- 39:48Speaker 4: who Jordan Love has been hurt for some of their
- 39:51Speaker 4: seasons the last couple years that he is there. The
- 39:53Speaker 4: big issue with Green Bay is their starting running back, Jacobs,
- 39:59Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, really good running back. He's on my fantasy team,
- 40:03Speaker 4: by the way, and I drafted him knowing this, but
- 40:06Speaker 4: we don't know if he's even going to play this
- 40:07Speaker 4: year because he has all these assault charges. I think
- 40:10Speaker 4: he basically pulled a Ray Rice, if I'm not mistaken. No.
- 40:15Speaker 6: Awesome.
- 40:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 40:16Speaker 4: So now he's commissioner exempt, which means he can't play
- 40:19Speaker 4: right now. And I have no idea if he's going
- 40:21Speaker 4: to play. So Green Bay, they basically don't have a
- 40:23Speaker 4: running back right now. Although running backs are kind of
- 40:26Speaker 4: like plug and play, but they're starting running back. Looks
- 40:28Speaker 4: like it's going to be a guy named Marshawn Lloyd,
- 40:31Speaker 4: not beast mode, not Marshawn Lynch.
- 40:35Speaker 6: Who's the Vikings QB? Is it, what's his name?
- 40:38Speaker 4: Kyler Murray.
- 40:41Speaker 6: Oh, they got Kyler Murray. Whoa.
- 40:43Speaker 4: Yes. He is going to be the starter because J.J.
- 40:47Speaker 4: McCarthy has been total ass. So, yeah, Murray is going
- 40:51Speaker 4: to be the starter, and they have Carson Wentz on
- 40:53Speaker 4: their roster still as well.
- 40:55Speaker 6: I never thought very highly of Murray.
- 40:58Speaker 4: Me neither.
- 40:59Speaker 6: He's like a black bow Knicks but with less accuracy.
- 41:02Speaker 4: He's shorter. It seems like he just can't throw over.
- 41:05Speaker 4: I don't know, dude. He's never won, so I don't
- 41:07Speaker 4: love it. I don't like Minnesota this year. They have
- 41:09Speaker 4: a good coach with O'Connell, but even so, I don't
- 41:12Speaker 4: love it.
- 41:14Speaker 6: Yeah, I go Lions, Packers, Bears, Vikings.
- 41:19Speaker 4: I agree. That's exactly how I have this division as well.
- 41:23Speaker 4: The Packers, I still think the running back situation could
- 41:26Speaker 4: kind of just be plug and play. I mean, that's
- 41:27Speaker 4: kind of what it is in the NFL. Running back, honestly,
- 41:31Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like one of the easiest
- 41:32Speaker 4: positions to replace. Although I did say I think the
- 41:35Speaker 4: Chiefs are going to take a step up in that
- 41:37Speaker 4: department because they got a real beast running back. But
- 41:40Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to hamper Green Bay that much.
- 41:42Speaker 4: Although Green Bay also, they have Micah Parsons now after
- 41:45Speaker 4: they traded him last year. He's hurt, though, for the
- 41:48Speaker 4: first four weeks. He can't stay healthy, really, so that's
- 41:51Speaker 4: going to affect their defense a bit. But I don't
- 41:54Speaker 4: like what the Vikings are doing. I don't. So, yeah,
- 41:58Speaker 4: in this division, Detroit is plus 175, so they're the
- 42:01Speaker 4: favorites to win. I believe, who won this division last year?
- 42:05Speaker 6: I think it was the Lions.
- 42:08Speaker 4: No, no, the Lions didn't even make the playoffs last year.
- 42:11Speaker 6: Oh, because they lost their super stud defensive player, whatever
- 42:16Speaker 6: his name is.
- 42:17Speaker 4: Oh, they did. Yeah, they lost a couple of their
- 42:19Speaker 4: defensive players. I think one of them is no longer
- 42:21Speaker 4: on the team, though. I think one of them got traded. Anzalone, maybe.
- 42:25Speaker 4: But you're right. They lost Hutchinson.
- 42:28Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure it was hurt last year. That kid's
- 42:30Speaker 6: a freak. He broke his arm or some shit.
- 42:32Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. I think that was last year. Yeah, but
- 42:34Speaker 4: I think the Lions do bounce back here. They're too
- 42:36Speaker 4: good of a team not to, in my opinion. Packers
- 42:39Speaker 4: are Plus 240.
- 42:40Speaker 6: I think the Bears snuck it out.
- 42:43Speaker 4: Bears plus three. I think you might be right. I
- 42:45Speaker 4: think the Bears actually won the division. I think you're right.
- 42:47Speaker 4: And the Packers made the playoffs as a wild card.
- 42:50Speaker 4: I think I remember that because I had a bet
- 42:52Speaker 4: on Green Bay in the playoffs and they blew that
- 42:55Speaker 4: huge lead against Chicago. I was fucking pissed. And then
- 42:58Speaker 4: the Vikings are plus 450. So this is actually probably
- 43:00Speaker 4: the closest division between all four teams.
- 43:03Speaker 6: I think the Lions came close to making the playoffs still.
- 43:06Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it came down to the final week or.
- 43:09Speaker 6: Something like that. Yeah, that's my recollection.
- 43:11Speaker 5: All right, yeah, I stick with what I said. So, yeah,
- 43:16Speaker 5: Vegas line looks right.
- 43:18Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. And then the NFC South, which might
- 43:21Speaker 4: be the worst division in all of football, Atlanta, Carolina,
- 43:25Speaker 4: New Orleans, and Tampa Bay. Atlanta, as I mentioned, their
- 43:29Speaker 4: quarterback room right now is they still have Michael Penix,
- 43:32Speaker 4: who I believe is now listed as their starter.
- 43:36Speaker 6: One letter away from being penis. Very cool.
- 43:39Speaker 4: Yes, yes. Out of University of Washington. He was in
- 43:44Speaker 4: the championship game in college with Washington. Hasn't panned out
- 43:48Speaker 4: in the NFL, though. Hasn't looked that good so far.
- 43:51Speaker 4: Atlanta has Tua. Like I said, he has been absolutely
- 43:54Speaker 4: horrific in the preseason. Like, so bad that he might...
- 43:58Speaker 4: be out of the NFL. But Atlanta does have this
- 44:01Speaker 4: guy who's a division two quarterback that they drafted named
- 44:04Speaker 4: Jack Strand, who I think is going to wind up
- 44:06Speaker 4: being their starting quarterback. I think he's their best quarterback. Like,
- 44:10Speaker 4: I actually think he's good. Yeah.
- 44:13Speaker 6: I'm not impressed. All right, keep going.
- 44:17Speaker 4: Did you see him in preseason though?
- 44:19Speaker 6: No, of course not. I don't watch preseason football.
- 44:20Speaker 4: Strand, man. And Atlanta has Kevin Stefanski now.
- 44:23Speaker 6: What am I, a fucking heroin addict? Of course I
- 44:25Speaker 6: didn't watch preseason football.
- 44:26Speaker 4: Oh, you don't bet on it?
- 44:27Speaker 7: Oh.
- 44:28Speaker 4: Uh Kevin Stefanski though he's Atlanta's coach he was the
- 44:31Speaker 4: coach of Cleveland prior to this year I think he
- 44:33Speaker 4: sucks I think he doesn't know how to choose who
- 44:36Speaker 4: his best quarterback is so I don't like that coaching
- 44:39Speaker 4: hire I'm I don't like Atlanta this year personally uh
- 44:42Speaker 4: Carolina is pretty much going to be the same team
- 44:46Speaker 4: that they were last year they have Bryce Young there
- 44:48Speaker 4: they did lose Rico Dowdle from the running back position
- 44:51Speaker 4: but they have um Hubbard is supposed to be back.
- 44:54Speaker 4: He is back. And then they have this guy, Brooks,
- 44:56Speaker 4: who's supposed to be a good running back as well.
- 44:58Speaker 4: So I don't think there's going to be much of
- 44:59Speaker 4: an issue there. Carolina, I mean, they made the playoffs
- 45:02Speaker 4: last year, which is kind of a surprise. They won
- 45:04Speaker 4: this division in the very last week. And it was
- 45:06Speaker 4: by a tiebreaker because they had lost to Tampa Bay.
- 45:11Speaker 4: And I think because the Saints won or something that
- 45:14Speaker 4: the Carolina won the tiebreaker or something like that.
- 45:17Speaker 6: Who did they knock out?
- 45:21Speaker 4: What do you mean?
- 45:22Speaker 6: Who got second?
- 45:23Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. It was a three-way tie in first place
- 45:27Speaker 4: between Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay.
- 45:29Speaker 6: That's right. Weren't they all 9-8?
- 45:32Speaker 4: I think they were all 9-8, and then the tiebreaker
- 45:36Speaker 4: was crazy. The tiebreaker changed because of the three-way tie.
- 45:39Speaker 4: When it was a three-way tie, the tiebreaker became their
- 45:41Speaker 4: head-to-head against all of those opponents combined, and that gave
- 45:45Speaker 4: it to Carolina.
- 45:46Speaker 6: All right, so who's the Saints QB?
- 45:51Speaker 4: Tyler shuck who i think he started to look pretty
- 45:55Speaker 4: good last year man.
- 45:56Speaker 6: He's their guy he was he was like the 25
- 45:58Speaker 6: year old rookie.
- 45:58Speaker 4: Right yeah they drafted him out of louisville.
- 46:01Speaker 6: But i'm right right he was like.
- 46:03Speaker 4: 25 year old rookie yeah i believe that's right yeah
- 46:05Speaker 4: fucking insane um yeah and tampa bay i mean we
- 46:09Speaker 4: kind of know they have baker mayfield there and whatever
- 46:12Speaker 4: and they did lose mike evans though mike evans is
- 46:14Speaker 4: on san francisco now but he's old at this.
- 46:17Speaker 5: Point he is that's still a big loss though um
- 46:21Speaker 5: I still think that the Buccaneers bounce back. I think
- 46:23Speaker 5: that they're the best team. It's just my gut. I
- 46:25Speaker 5: go Bucs, Panthers, Saints, Falcons.
- 46:31Speaker 4: Okay, yeah. I agree with the Falcons being terrible. I
- 46:35Speaker 4: have the Falcons last in this division as well. I
- 46:38Speaker 4: don't like what they're doing with their QB situation. However,
- 46:40Speaker 4: if they play Strand, I actually think they're going to
- 46:42Speaker 4: be better, but I don't like them. I like New
- 46:45Speaker 4: Orleans to win this division.
- 46:49Speaker 6: Okay.
- 46:50Speaker 4: I like it. I like Shuck. I think this division
- 46:52Speaker 4: is completely up for grabs. I don't really love Tampa Bay.
- 46:55Speaker 4: I mean, Tampa Bay won a lot of close games
- 46:57Speaker 4: early in the season last year, and then they lost
- 47:00Speaker 4: a ton. They did lose a bunch of games they
- 47:01Speaker 4: probably shouldn't have lost later in the season, but they
- 47:04Speaker 4: kind of look bad in doing so. So I don't know.
- 47:07Speaker 4: I don't love Tampa. I don't love Mayfield. And I
- 47:09Speaker 4: think Carolina overperformed last year, too. So I think this
- 47:12Speaker 4: division is just totally up in the air. And, yeah,
- 47:16Speaker 4: I like New Orleans.
- 47:18Speaker 6: I just think Mayfield is the best quarterback in the division,
- 47:20Speaker 6: so I'm going with them.
- 47:22Speaker 4: He still is, and Tampa Bay is plus 164 to
- 47:24Speaker 4: win it, so they have the best odds to win it.
- 47:26Speaker 4: New Orleans is plus 255, Carolina plus 350, and Atlanta
- 47:31Speaker 4: plus 400. So it's a very, very tight division, a
- 47:35Speaker 4: division where everybody's not that good.
- 47:37Speaker 5: Yeah, none of them are getting out of the first
- 47:40Speaker 5: round most likely, so it doesn't really matter.
- 47:43Speaker 4: I would agree, although whoever wins that division gets a
- 47:45Speaker 4: home playoff game, just because the division winner gets one,
- 47:49Speaker 4: which is ridiculous.
- 47:50Speaker 6: Well, they get to get their teeth kicked in by
- 47:53Speaker 6: the Packers. Congrats.
- 47:54Speaker 4: A lot of times, it's a good team to bet on,
- 47:57Speaker 4: a lot of times. Carolina, they came close in that
- 48:00Speaker 4: game against the Rams last year, didn't they? That was
- 48:04Speaker 4: that matchup last year.
- 48:04Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a fucking great game.
- 48:06Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
- 48:09Speaker 6: All right. Go ahead and give me the rundown. I
- 48:11Speaker 6: don't know who the Cardinals quarterback is, obviously.
- 48:13Speaker 4: Speaking of the Rams, yeah, so NFC West, Arizona, LA Rams,
- 48:18Speaker 4: San Francisco, and Seattle. Arizona, their quarterback to start the
- 48:23Speaker 4: season is their guy who was filling in for Jacoby.
- 48:27Speaker 4: It's Jacoby Brissett, the guy who was filling in for
- 48:29Speaker 4: Kyler Murray all this time. He's a veteran. I mean,
- 48:31Speaker 4: he doesn't make mistakes, but he's not a super talent
- 48:34Speaker 4: or anything. But he basically will go in there and
- 48:36Speaker 4: not totally fuck you over. He's going to be their starter,
- 48:40Speaker 4: but Arizona does have Carson Beck, and I believe he's
- 48:43Speaker 4: kind of the quarterback in waiting there that they drafted.
- 48:47Speaker 4: And he almost won the championship last year against Mendoza
- 48:50Speaker 4: in college. Beck was with Miami, and he was with
- 48:53Speaker 4: Georgia before that against some good— I think Beck is
- 48:57Speaker 4: actually good. I think he gets way too much hate.
- 49:00Speaker 4: And then pretty much you know what's going on with
- 49:01Speaker 4: the other teams. Rams, you know, Stafford, pretty much the
- 49:04Speaker 4: same team there. 49ers, Brock Purdy. But the 49ers, they
- 49:09Speaker 4: always have way too many injuries, man. And again, it's
- 49:12Speaker 4: looking like that's kind of the case. They have a
- 49:14Speaker 4: lot of guys who are kind of injured right now
- 49:15Speaker 4: and it's because of the electrical substation that's right next
- 49:18Speaker 4: to their facilities i think it actually is like the
- 49:21Speaker 4: 49ers have been the most injured team in history and
- 49:24Speaker 4: i have no idea why i think it's bad vibrational
- 49:27Speaker 4: energy from the substation.
- 49:29Speaker 6: Man i i blame gavin newsom um all right who's.
- 49:32Speaker 4: The seahawks quarterback sam darnold uh you know seahawks They
- 49:36Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl last year.
- 49:37Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 49:38Speaker 4: So they did lose their defensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak, to
- 49:42Speaker 4: the Raiders. I believe that's the case. They still got
- 49:45Speaker 4: Mike McDonald as their head coach.
- 49:46Speaker 6: You never lose a Clint to get better. That's just
- 49:48Speaker 6: a fact. So they're in trouble.
- 49:50Speaker 4: Their head coach is good, though, McDonald. They still have
- 49:52Speaker 4: Darnold there. They did lose Kenneth Walker, like I said,
- 49:54Speaker 4: at running back, but they do have Charbonnet, and they
- 49:58Speaker 4: drafted this guy Price, I think is his name, who
- 50:00Speaker 4: looks pretty good at running back. He's more of a
- 50:02Speaker 4: speed guy, though. He's not as much of a power
- 50:05Speaker 4: running back. And then they still have Smith Najigba, who's
- 50:09Speaker 4: probably the best wide receiver in football.
- 50:11Speaker 6: At this point. Yeah, he's elite.
- 50:13Speaker 4: When did they lose Metcalf? And they have Cooper Cupp still.
- 50:15Speaker 6: When did they lose Metcalf? Two years ago?
- 50:20Speaker 4: I think it was before last season.
- 50:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 50:22Speaker 4: So that like, that's what, that's what Smith, the jig,
- 50:24Speaker 4: but like really took that leap forward.
- 50:27Speaker 6: I know. Who did he play for last year? The
- 50:28Speaker 6: Steelers or something?
- 50:29Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Metcalf was on the seal. He's still
- 50:31Speaker 4: on the Steelers, but yeah, I think he was there
- 50:32Speaker 4: last year too.
- 50:34Speaker 6: Okay. Um, all right. I've heard enough. Yeah.
- 50:40Speaker 4: The feeling of from John is yeah, that you're going
- 50:42Speaker 4: to pick a white QB here.
- 50:44Speaker 6: You're absolutely right.
- 50:45Speaker 4: Um, There's only one non-white QB. Oh, you're not going
- 50:49Speaker 4: to pick Arizona, the non-white QB, to win this division?
- 50:54Speaker 6: No, I think they're going to be last. I think
- 50:57Speaker 6: it goes Seahawks, Rams, Niners, Cardinals.
- 51:02Speaker 4: All right. Yeah, I agree with Cardinals being last. I
- 51:05Speaker 4: think that seems fairly obvious, but I think the Rams
- 51:11Speaker 4: get back on top of this division, man. This is like,
- 51:15Speaker 4: It's like their one final shot at it probably here
- 51:18Speaker 4: with Stafford getting old. I mean, he was the MVP
- 51:21Speaker 4: last year.
- 51:21Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it'll be close.
- 51:24Speaker 4: They got a strong team, but I think too much
- 51:25Speaker 4: is being made of the fact that Aaron Donald is
- 51:27Speaker 4: coming back, defensive lineman for the Rams. He's coming out
- 51:31Speaker 4: of retirement, and I don't know how good he's going
- 51:33Speaker 4: to be. He's old, but he's on the Rams. The 49ers.
- 51:37Speaker 6: That dude was scary in his prime, but yeah, he's
- 51:40Speaker 6: too old.
- 51:40Speaker 7: 49ers.
- 51:43Speaker 4: I kind of like the 49ers to come in second
- 51:45Speaker 4: in this division, but they need to stay healthy, man.
- 51:47Speaker 5: I believe you're putting the Superbowl champs as third in
- 51:50Speaker 5: their own division.
- 51:52Speaker 4: Yes. And that's, that's where I had them last year.
- 51:54Speaker 4: I think they overperformed last year, man. That's just what
- 51:56Speaker 4: I think. They're losing Kenneth, Kenneth.
- 51:58Speaker 6: Walker performed into a ring and word. Come on. Yeah.
- 52:01Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 52:02Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 52:02Speaker 4: Pretty much. Well, you, you even said they probably should have,
- 52:05Speaker 4: like you said it right. They should have lost to
- 52:06Speaker 4: the Rams in the NFC championship. I thought the Rams
- 52:10Speaker 4: are going to get that.
- 52:11Speaker 6: They should have.
- 52:12Speaker 5: But I, Look, I'm not saying that they'll win the
- 52:14Speaker 5: division for sure. I think the Rams could, but I'm
- 52:16Speaker 5: shocked to hear you say that they'll be worse than
- 52:20Speaker 5: the Niners.
- 52:20Speaker 4: The Niners still have the coaching with Shanahan, and they
- 52:23Speaker 4: still got Christian McCaffrey, Purdy. I mean, I'm not a
- 52:27Speaker 4: huge Purdy fan, but, I mean, he does what he does.
- 52:29Speaker 4: They've got to stay healthy, though. They've got Kittle. I
- 52:32Speaker 4: believe they still have Brandon Iyuk, and I believe they've
- 52:35Speaker 4: got Debo back, if I'm not mistaken. But we'll see,
- 52:38Speaker 4: I guess.
- 52:38Speaker 6: You're right. Every single one of those names I remember
- 52:41Speaker 6: from the I.L.
- 52:43Speaker 4: Yeah, correct. Yeah. Let me make sure. Is that the case? Oh,
- 52:47Speaker 4: they have Mike Evans.
- 52:47Speaker 6: Questionable, questionable, questionable, questionable.
- 52:49Speaker 4: Well, I said they have Mike Evans now, too. And
- 52:51Speaker 4: they got Christian Kirk. He's solid, too. Brandon Iyuka's hurt, though.
- 52:54Speaker 4: You're right. This is a solid wide receiving core, though.
- 52:57Speaker 6: Dude, they're all either questionable out or injured reserve.
- 53:01Speaker 4: Yeah, and George Kittle. Kittle is my fantasy tight end,
- 53:04Speaker 4: by the way, so he better fucking play. He's questionable.
- 53:07Speaker 6: Dude, that's crazy how injured they are already.
- 53:11Speaker 4: My team name is Say Hello to My Kittle Friend.
- 53:14Speaker 4: That's very gay, dude.
- 53:16Speaker 6: Very, very gay.
- 53:17Speaker 4: I took the Scarface thing and I chat GBT AI'd
- 53:20Speaker 4: it so it's Kittle with the rifle.
- 53:25Speaker 6: All right, please stop making me look at their team.
- 53:27Speaker 6: I want to look at the team so we can
- 53:28Speaker 6: pick up the divisions.
- 53:30Speaker 4: Yes. Well, yeah. Well, you said you already did, right? Yeah, well,
- 53:39Speaker 4: we already... Oh, yeah, you want to pick the conferences now,
- 53:41Speaker 4: I guess, right? Oh, you want to see the... Well,
- 53:43Speaker 4: we got to look at the odds, I guess, to
- 53:45Speaker 4: see what we were thinking. Were we thinking correctly? The
- 53:47Speaker 4: Rams are minus 105, so they're the favorite to win
- 53:50Speaker 4: this division. The Seahawks are plus 215. 49ers plus 305.
- 53:54Speaker 4: And the Cardinals are plus 10,000. So they are 100
- 54:00Speaker 4: to 1 to win this division.
- 54:04Speaker 5: That's what you call dead money.
- 54:06Speaker 4: It's a very difficult division, but yes. Yeah.
- 54:11Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't be surprised if any of those three
- 54:12Speaker 5: teams take that division, but yeah, if the Cardinals want it,
- 54:15Speaker 5: I'll just jump off a building.
- 54:16Speaker 6: That makes no sense.
- 54:17Speaker 4: There's no way. There's no way that happens. No way.
- 54:22Speaker 4: I think maybe there'll be a little bit better than
- 54:24Speaker 4: people think, but there's no way that happens.
- 54:27Speaker 6: All right. Let's go back.
- 54:29Speaker 4: All right. Uh, well that was it. That's the final division.
- 54:32Speaker 6: So no, I realized that we're going to do conference now.
- 54:35Speaker 4: Oh, conferences.
- 54:36Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 54:36Speaker 4: So, uh, Yeah, so as far as AFC, I mean,
- 54:40Speaker 4: you had Buffalo winning the division. You had Buffalo, Baltimore, Houston,
- 54:47Speaker 4: and Chargers, right, winning the divisions. And I was close
- 54:50Speaker 4: to having the same thing. I had Cincinnati winning it.
- 54:52Speaker 4: And there were going to be three wild card spots
- 54:54Speaker 4: in the playoffs. So I don't know who you might
- 54:57Speaker 4: have as your.
- 54:57Speaker 6: Wild cards here.
- 54:58Speaker 5: Probably the smart money would be Chiefs back in the
- 55:02Speaker 5: Super Bowl just because they've lived there fucking for the
- 55:04Speaker 5: past decade.
- 55:05Speaker 6: But I'm not going.
- 55:06Speaker 4: To do that. I think it's definitely possible.
- 55:09Speaker 6: I'm not going to do that, though.
- 55:10Speaker 4: They got the experience.
- 55:12Speaker 6: They sure do.
- 55:13Speaker 4: I just... Ripple thinks the Cardinals are going to win
- 55:18Speaker 4: eight games, even though I think their season win total,
- 55:22Speaker 4: I think, is like four and a half. If you
- 55:24Speaker 4: want to bet the over on that, go ahead, man.
- 55:26Speaker 4: But no, I think maybe they win six, I think,
- 55:29Speaker 4: is their ceiling, I would say. And I think even
- 55:32Speaker 4: if they win six, I think that would be a
- 55:34Speaker 4: surprise to people.
- 55:35Speaker 6: They're in a really hard division. That's like almost... almost
- 55:38Speaker 6: a guaranteed oh and six like yeah.
- 55:41Speaker 4: They might be able to win one of those games
- 55:43Speaker 4: at home and they catch a team not paying attention
- 55:45Speaker 4: but yeah i mean probably that's the max one win
- 55:48Speaker 4: in those divisional games for them probably.
- 55:51Speaker 6: That's that's my gut on it um all right scroll
- 55:53Speaker 6: down yeah.
- 55:57Speaker 4: So yeah for the what did i.
- 55:59Speaker 6: Do too far go to the middle.
- 56:02Speaker 4: I mean i could zoom out if you want go
- 56:06Speaker 4: to the middle Yeah, I.
- 56:08Speaker 6: Just don't really like, I just don't really like, I
- 56:12Speaker 6: don't love any team on the NFC.
- 56:15Speaker 4: Oh, on the NFC?
- 56:17Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 56:18Speaker 4: So wait, you said Chiefs to win the AFC or
- 56:21Speaker 4: did you not say that?
- 56:22Speaker 5: No, I said I'm not going to say that. I
- 56:23Speaker 5: said that's probably the smart money play just because they
- 56:28Speaker 5: had such a bad year and they'll probably bounce back hard.
- 56:30Speaker 5: And if they just get into the playoffs, Mahomes is
- 56:32Speaker 5: always a serious threat.
- 56:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a decent look. And I said
- 56:36Speaker 4: that I... It wasn't one of my plays that I
- 56:38Speaker 4: gave out, but I said that I liked the Chiefs
- 56:40Speaker 4: to go over their season win total.
- 56:43Speaker 6: I feel like it's kind of.
- 56:45Speaker 4: I like the Lions more, though.
- 56:47Speaker 6: I feel like.
- 56:47Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. I feel like it's do or die for...
- 56:51Speaker 5: I wouldn't say die, but do or severe damage for
- 56:53Speaker 5: both the Chargers and the Ravens this season. Both teams
- 56:57Speaker 5: need to get over the hump.
- 56:59Speaker 6: Bad.
- 56:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 57:01Speaker 8: So.
- 57:04Speaker 6: And for the Bills, too, I guess.
- 57:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 57:06Speaker 6: Allen.
- 57:08Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. Allen, that's the thing. Like, can he
- 57:10Speaker 4: actually win the whole thing?
- 57:11Speaker 6: I think those are the three.
- 57:13Speaker 4: Those are the three.
- 57:15Speaker 6: Those are the three teams that I think have the
- 57:16Speaker 6: highest upside, though.
- 57:19Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, yeah. So, Ravens, Buffalo, and, or Kansas City,
- 57:25Speaker 4: you said. And Chargers. Oh, Chargers, yeah. I mean, they
- 57:29Speaker 4: all have strong quarterbacks, so.
- 57:32Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm saying I think they have the strongest
- 57:34Speaker 5: upside to go to the Super Bowl. If any of
- 57:38Speaker 5: those three guys has a standout season, I think that
- 57:41Speaker 5: they'll probably be a contender for the ring.
- 57:45Speaker 6: I don't know.
- 57:46Speaker 5: That's just my instinct on it. Obviously, Mahomes is always lurking.
- 57:51Speaker 5: I don't see the Bengals, Browns, Steelers. I don't see
- 57:58Speaker 5: the Texans, Colts, Jags, Titans. I don't see any of them.
- 58:01Speaker 5: I don't see the Patriots making it back. I don't
- 58:03Speaker 5: see the Jets, obviously. I don't see the Dolphins, obviously.
- 58:05Speaker 5: So I say, I mean, I guess Knicks is also
- 58:09Speaker 5: a bit of a sleeper pick, but I think he
- 58:11Speaker 5: probably comes down to earth. He almost had like your
- 58:15Speaker 5: picture perfect year two, I think it was.
- 58:18Speaker 4: They have a really good defense, though, so there is that.
- 58:21Speaker 6: Yeah, no, they do. And I think that they'll be
- 58:24Speaker 6: a problem, but I just don't think that they're Super
- 58:26Speaker 6: Bowl bound. So I don't know. Yeah, that's my three
- 58:30Speaker 6: are the Chargers, Bills, and the Ravens, and I think that...
- 58:36Speaker 6: I don't know. Who are you going with?
- 58:40Speaker 4: AFC, man, it's... When I did my preview like two
- 58:44Speaker 4: months ago or whatever, I said the Chiefs. I mean,
- 58:50Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I mean, I see the Chiefs
- 58:52Speaker 4: getting into the playoffs one way or another, and... That experience,
- 58:57Speaker 4: to me, I think it might win out, man. Buffalo,
- 59:00Speaker 4: we just haven't seen them be able to do it.
- 59:02Speaker 4: Baltimore with the new coaching there, even though they've been
- 59:05Speaker 4: one of the best teams, I still don't really see it.
- 59:07Speaker 4: Cincinnati might be able to do it, but I don't
- 59:09Speaker 4: love their defense.
- 59:10Speaker 8: Enough.
- 59:11Speaker 4: Houston, really, really good defense. I don't know if I
- 59:15Speaker 4: see it, though. Denver, you know, it could be the Chargers. Man,
- 59:21Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's between Kansas City and the
- 59:22Speaker 4: Chargers for me, actually, as far as, like, The coaching,
- 59:26Speaker 4: I don't know. The experience, I don't know. For some reason,
- 59:28Speaker 4: I see Kansas City being able to somehow do it.
- 59:32Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I don't want it to happen.
- 59:34Speaker 4: I'm not a fan, but.
- 59:36Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.
- 59:40Speaker 5: It's such a Homer pick, and it's totally irrational, so
- 59:44Speaker 5: I shouldn't say the Chargers, but I will.
- 59:45Speaker 6: Fuck it. It's just a podcast. Who cares?
- 59:49Speaker 4: That's true. And we have the conference odds here. We
- 59:53Speaker 4: have for the AFC, Buffalo's 5-1, Baltimore plus 520, Chiefs
- 59:57Speaker 4: plus 780, Chargers plus 830.
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: I'm not totally fucking delusional. Then I had three of
- 1:00:03Speaker 5: the top four odds.
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: No, you're not. That makes me feel better. And neither
- 1:00:06Speaker 4: am I, I don't think. And then Bengals plus 850,
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: Patriots plus 870, Texans plus 870, Broncos plus 970.
- 1:00:13Speaker 6: Wow, they have the Texans higher than the Broncos. Interesting. Mm-hmm.
- 1:00:18Speaker 8: Yep.
- 1:00:20Speaker 6: All right. Well, that makes me feel better about my pick.
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: Um, well, Texans easier division to win probably is somewhat
- 1:00:26Speaker 4: of a factor there, but yeah. Yeah.
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: I think, uh, that's, I mean, honestly, any of those
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: top four, I wouldn't be remotely surprised.
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: Here's our, our dude, Travis, you know, Travis, what's up, man? Uh,
- 1:00:43Speaker 4: chiefs have the, uh, have had the worst running backs
- 1:00:45Speaker 4: in the NFL for years and now they get Walker.
- 1:00:47Speaker 7: Yes.
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: Correct. Uh, I said that was a huge move for them.
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: It'll fix one huge problem they've had on their offense
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: to get this beast running back there now. So, yes,
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: I agree with you on that.
- 1:00:59Speaker 6: I'm honestly kind of caught off guard that the Bills
- 1:01:02Speaker 6: are still favored. That's interesting.
- 1:01:05Speaker 4: Yeah, only a 5-1, though. So, I mean, that means
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: that it's like basically an 80% chance, essentially, that somebody
- 1:01:11Speaker 4: else is going to win and not them.
- 1:01:13Speaker 6: Of course, yeah.
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: Even if they do have the best odds to win it,
- 1:01:16Speaker 4: it's slight odds. Yeah.
- 1:01:19Speaker 6: Yeah, it's going to be a tough division or a
- 1:01:22Speaker 6: tough conference to take.
- 1:01:24Speaker 4: I agree, yeah. I think the NFC is the stronger conference, though. Oh,
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: you do?
- 1:01:28Speaker 6: Interesting.
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: It's tough to pick the NFC.
- 1:01:32Speaker 6: I'm picking the Lions.
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: You know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it isn't this time.
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: You like the Lions. I like the Lions as well.
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: I think this is what I picked last season, if
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: I remember correctly. I think I said Chargers-Lions.
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: In my preview, I said the 49ers, but I'm kind
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: of scared by that. It's like, The substation, man, the substation,
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: the injuries. Do we really want Chiefs 49ers again? It
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: would be like the third or fourth time in the
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: last several years. I don't know. The Lions definitely could
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: do it. Can they actually make it there this time?
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: They might be able to because they've been so close. Yeah,
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: I mean, the Rams probably have the best odds to
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: win this whole thing. I don't think the Seahawks are
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: going to get there again. For me, I think somehow
- 1:02:19Speaker 4: it's between the Lions and the Rams at this point, probably,
- 1:02:22Speaker 4: to win the NFC, I would say.
- 1:02:25Speaker 6: Well, you've got to pick one.
- 1:02:28Speaker 4: I'm always kind of high on the Packers. I mean,
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: I feel like the Rams probably have the best odds
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: to win this whole thing, but I might have to
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: do it. I might pick the Rams. I mean, the
- 1:02:39Speaker 4: experience is there. They're good on both sides of the ball.
- 1:02:42Speaker 4: They probably were the best team last year. They just
- 1:02:46Speaker 4: didn't happen to win the Super Bowl.
- 1:02:47Speaker 6: Stafford's got to be, what, like 38 now?
- 1:02:50Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty old. But they got a lot of
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: weapons here.
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: You're betting on a 38-year-old to duplicate a season he
- 1:02:56Speaker 5: had last year when he was the MVP.
- 1:02:58Speaker 6: I would say that odds are against that.
- 1:02:59Speaker 4: Okay, but John Elway won two Super Bowls and he
- 1:03:02Speaker 4: was like 37, 38, whatever. Brady won how many when
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: he was around that age? He won at least one
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: with Tampa when he was super old.
- 1:03:10Speaker 5: You can pick the two exceptions, and I'll point out
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: the 50 other examples where you.
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: Look super silly. Peyton Manning won one with Denver when
- 1:03:17Speaker 4: he was super old because they had an elite defense,
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: and he didn't need to do a whole lot, but yeah.
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: But he was in the Super Bowl, I think, the
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: year prior to that, too, and he had a very
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: good year that year.
- 1:03:28Speaker 6: All right, so you're going Chiefs, Rams?
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's what I'm doing, yeah.
- 1:03:33Speaker 6: All right, I'm going Chargers, Lions. Let's see the odds.
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: All right, for the NFC, Rams plus 290.
- 1:03:40Speaker 6: Wow.
- 1:03:40Speaker 4: So they have better odds.
- 1:03:42Speaker 6: Than the rest of the season. Heavy favorites, my God.
- 1:03:44Speaker 4: Seahawks are next, plus 600. Eagles plus 850. Lions plus 930.
- 1:03:49Speaker 4: Niners plus 950. Packers plus 1050. After that, you know,
- 1:03:54Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know. I mean, the next teams
- 1:03:55Speaker 4: are Dallas and Bears at 12.5 to 1.
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: Honestly, though, I feel like any of those top six
- 1:04:04Speaker 5: or seven wouldn't surprise me.
- 1:04:06Speaker 4: Yeah, Travis talking about how Christian Watson totally changes the
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: Packers' offense. He's on my fantasy team this year, by
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: the way, at least for now. But yeah, he's a
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: very good wide receiver. And I have two other wide receivers.
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: I have him and Jaden Reed on my team, so
- 1:04:20Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll see how that pairing goes for
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: my team.
- 1:04:25Speaker 5: I'm going with a heavy dog at basically 10-1 odds
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: to make the Super Bowl. But whatever, I just think
- 1:04:30Speaker 5: that the Lions have.
- 1:04:32Speaker 4: No, I don't mind that pick. They were my second
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: choice in the NFC. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:04:38Speaker 6: I don't think that highly of the Eagles.
- 1:04:40Speaker 4: Me neither.
- 1:04:41Speaker 6: You know, black quarterback.
- 1:04:42Speaker 4: Hurts. I don't think Hurts is that good. Fuck the,
- 1:04:46Speaker 4: you just banned the tush bush. That's what I got
- 1:04:48Speaker 4: to say about that. It's stupid. It's kind of gay.
- 1:04:51Speaker 6: Got to get all the black pairs off the field.
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
- 1:04:53Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:04:54Speaker 4: So you have, um, right.
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:04:56Speaker 8: Yes.
- 1:04:57Speaker 4: Yes. So I've Rams chiefs. You had chargers lions.
- 1:05:02Speaker 8: Yep.
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: Who's your, a winner of the super bowl.
- 1:05:07Speaker 6: Probably the lions.
- 1:05:09Speaker 4: Okay.
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: Just cause I think that the chargers are just destined
- 1:05:13Speaker 6: to never, ever make me happy.
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: I don't mind it, man. I mean, Dan Campbell's a lunatic.
- 1:05:17Speaker 4: Can they actually get there? I mean, they should have
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: won the NFC at least one of these past couple
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: of seasons, right? Where they were the year they were
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: the number one seed and they got knocked out by
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: the Redskins that year, the Jane Daniels rookie campaign. That
- 1:05:29Speaker 4: was crazy. That upset.
- 1:05:32Speaker 6: Fuck it. I'll, I'll be Homer all the way.
- 1:05:34Speaker 5: Harbaugh year three, I think, uh, I think, uh, Herbert
- 1:05:40Speaker 5: has a breakout season. Finally, he finally fucking gets the
- 1:05:43Speaker 5: monkey off his back and round one of the playoffs.
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: Hopefully you have a fucking buy. So you can actually
- 1:05:48Speaker 5: take a breather and just go out and crush somebody.
- 1:05:51Speaker 4: The only buy goes to the number one team.
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: Oh, that's right.
- 1:05:54Speaker 4: All right. You have to be number one. Yeah.
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: Odds are very against that. Cause we're coming out of
- 1:05:58Speaker 5: a very hard division. So, We got to win a
- 1:06:03Speaker 5: game in the playoffs, man. I feel like if he
- 1:06:06Speaker 5: can just get that one, he'll be fine. But there's
- 1:06:10Speaker 5: so much pressure on him. He's got to get through
- 1:06:12Speaker 5: that wall.
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: Yeah. And once you do that, the pressure's off.
- 1:06:17Speaker 5: Then it's house money, and then the talent can actually
- 1:06:21Speaker 5: just be unleashed.
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: Yeah, and it feels like for Josh Allen, it's always
- 1:06:25Speaker 4: that second game that he always loses in the playoffs.
- 1:06:27Speaker 5: He gets the one and then loses game two. And
- 1:06:30Speaker 5: he plays incredible in that game. And it's like a
- 1:06:33Speaker 5: 45 to 43. He always loses in these like unbelievable shootout,
- 1:06:39Speaker 5: like Hall of Fame level games, usually against Mahomes.
- 1:06:43Speaker 6: That's true. Against the Chiefs.
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. And I think, yeah, it's like both
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: of them beat the Ravens and then Mahomes always beats Allen.
- 1:06:52Speaker 4: It's crazy. Yes, Ripple Stelskin. Thank you, sir. Yes, towering name.
- 1:06:58Speaker 5: Hey, Ripple, tell me if I made enough racist comments
- 1:07:01Speaker 5: to make you chuckle a couple times.
- 1:07:03Speaker 6: I hope so.
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: Yeah. Let's not nuke this channel, hopefully, though. I didn't
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: say anything that's nuking. No, I know.
- 1:07:11Speaker 6: I just said black players shouldn't be in the NFL.
- 1:07:13Speaker 6: Who gives a fuck?
- 1:07:13Speaker 4: Here are what the Super Bowl odds actually are. The
- 1:07:16Speaker 4: Rams are 5-1 to win it. Oh, I should have
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: said I think the Rams are going to beat the
- 1:07:19Speaker 4: Chiefs in the Super Bowl. That was my pick. but
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: the Rams plus 500 to win it. Bills plus 10
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: or bills are 10 to one Ravens, 10 to one Seahawks,
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: 12 to one chiefs, 16 to one Eagles chargers, 17
- 1:07:32Speaker 4: to one Patriots, Texas bangles, all 18 to one.
- 1:07:36Speaker 6: That's very interesting. I'm shocked.
- 1:07:38Speaker 5: The chargers, the chargers have the sixth tie for the
- 1:07:40Speaker 5: sixth best odds to win the super bowl.
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: That's, They have better odds than the Lions, in fact.
- 1:07:45Speaker 6: That's really high.
- 1:07:46Speaker 5: The Chargers never get that kind of love in the offseason,
- 1:07:49Speaker 5: so apparently the betters are thinking highly of the Chargers, too.
- 1:07:53Speaker 4: That's like they have a chance, yeah. And this is, yeah,
- 1:07:56Speaker 4: what the oddsmakers put out, and then these Lions have
- 1:07:58Speaker 4: moved a bit depending on what is getting bet, but yeah.
- 1:08:01Speaker 5: Did the Chargers do something in the offseason that are
- 1:08:03Speaker 5: making people so high on them?
- 1:08:05Speaker 4: I don't think so. Not really. I think it's Harbaugh
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: year three, and yeah. And Herbert.
- 1:08:12Speaker 5: I'm telling you, dude, for anybody who's watching this going, oh,
- 1:08:15Speaker 5: Clint's just delusional. He's from San Diego, so he loves
- 1:08:17Speaker 5: the Chargers. You should fucking watch Justin Herbert play. Like,
- 1:08:20Speaker 5: watch his highlight reel or something, dude. That kid is
- 1:08:22Speaker 5: fucking special.
- 1:08:24Speaker 4: Oh, wait. The Chargers have Mike McDaniel now? Is that
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: what you're saying?
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 1:08:28Speaker 4: I think Mike McDaniel must be their OC now.
- 1:08:31Speaker 6: That's right. No, that's right, dude.
- 1:08:32Speaker 4: Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah.
- 1:08:35Speaker 5: And contrast the talent levels between Tua and fucking Herbert.
- 1:08:38Speaker 6: It's insane. I mean, Herbert is.
- 1:08:41Speaker 5: Like I said, I'll keep saying it. He is the
- 1:08:43Speaker 5: prototypical super athlete elite quarterback. I don't even know what
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: his– I would imagine his 100-yard dash is like 4'5.
- 1:08:50Speaker 5: I mean, he's fucking– he's a problem.
- 1:08:54Speaker 4: We can look it up.
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: Yeah, look it up. i'm it's probably higher than that
- 1:08:58Speaker 6: because he's you know he's still white but.
- 1:09:02Speaker 4: Herbert's uh 40 yard dash at the combine was 4.68 dude.
- 1:09:08Speaker 5: He's six fucking six dog yeah that's fucking insane four
- 1:09:13Speaker 5: six eight holy shit.
- 1:09:15Speaker 4: Yeah Herbert will get a ring. I mean, if it happens, I'm,
- 1:09:18Speaker 4: I'm not going to complain about it. If it happens,
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: unless I lose money on it.
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: Hey, if the charges want to ring, we'll, we'll bring
- 1:09:26Speaker 6: back to our game.
- 1:09:28Speaker 4: Oh, yes. Now I got to root for it.
- 1:09:35Speaker 6: I'm telling you, it is. It's so, the odds are
- 1:09:37Speaker 6: so stacked against it. I've been watching the charges for
- 1:09:40Speaker 6: over 30 years. It's fucking, it's misery.
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: Yeah. Got to root for it now, man. Let's, uh,
- 1:09:45Speaker 4: Root for the Chargers, Super Bowl win, the Tower game
- 1:09:48Speaker 4: comes back. Yeah. Everybody's happy again. I could stay alive,
- 1:09:53Speaker 4: you know.
- 1:09:55Speaker 6: Who's MVP?
- 1:09:56Speaker 5: Obviously, if the Chargers make a deep run, obviously Herbert's
- 1:09:59Speaker 5: got a shot at it. But I don't think Harbaugh
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: will uncuff him enough to have the stats to be MVP.
- 1:10:04Speaker 6: So who do you think?
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: Let's see. Stafford won it last year. It's always like
- 1:10:13Speaker 4: the same guys that are in the mix every year, man. Um,
- 1:10:17Speaker 4: you know, Stafford, Mahomes, Jackson, Herbert might be in there. Allen,
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: of course. Would you think golf would be in the
- 1:10:26Speaker 4: mix at all there? I don't know, man. Drake may.
- 1:10:30Speaker 4: I mean, may, may was close last year.
- 1:10:32Speaker 6: Who's golf with lions.
- 1:10:35Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
- 1:10:35Speaker 6: Yeah. Um, I mean, if they go 13 and.
- 1:10:39Speaker 4: Four, yeah, maybe. It's going to have to be like, yeah,
- 1:10:44Speaker 4: like a winning team, like a really like seriously winning team.
- 1:10:49Speaker 4: I don't know, man. I think I might go with
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: Josh Allen.
- 1:10:55Speaker 6: I was going to say the same.
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: He's won at least one before, but yeah. Let me see.
- 1:11:00Speaker 4: It seems like it's just kind of a carousel of
- 1:11:01Speaker 4: the MVP winners. We probably have the odds on that
- 1:11:05Speaker 4: somewhere here. Yeah, awards. MVP, Josh Allen is six to one.
- 1:11:09Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, eight to one. I did not know what
- 1:11:11Speaker 4: these odds were. Jackson, 8-1. Burrow. Oh, yeah, I forgot
- 1:11:14Speaker 4: about Burrow. How could I forget about Burrow? Yeah, he's
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: in the mix if he stays healthy. 8-1.
- 1:11:18Speaker 6: Herbert's got the fifth odds.
- 1:11:20Speaker 7: I like it.
- 1:11:21Speaker 4: Mahomes, Herbert, and May are all tied at, yeah, 10-1.
- 1:11:23Speaker 6: Oh, that's fucking retarded. Dude, get May the fuck out
- 1:11:25Speaker 6: of there. He's tied with Herbert.
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: Stafford, he's got A.J. Brown now. Stafford's all the way
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: down at 14-1, man. That's brutal. Stafford. He's the same
- 1:11:34Speaker 4: odds as Herbert.
- 1:11:35Speaker 6: The fuck?
- 1:11:40Speaker 4: Basically, what the oddsmakers are telling you is that the
- 1:11:42Speaker 4: Rams are this really solid team and that Stafford doesn't
- 1:11:46Speaker 4: have to be totally elite for the Rams to win
- 1:11:48Speaker 4: this whole thing, which is true.
- 1:11:51Speaker 6: I agree with that. They do have a pretty stacked team,
- 1:11:55Speaker 6: but they are older, so TBD.
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: Caleb Williams will get buzz. Yeah, I bet he likes that.
- 1:12:00Speaker 4: I bet he drinks buzz balls.
- 1:12:02Speaker 6: Especially with Ben Johnson saying he wants to have a
- 1:12:05Speaker 6: better offense than the 2013 Broncos. I don't even remember
- 1:12:09Speaker 6: the 2013 Broncos. Who was that?
- 1:12:10Speaker 4: That was the one I was talking about where Peyton
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: Manning completely lit it up that year, and then they
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: lost to the Seahawks in the Super Bowl.
- 1:12:17Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 1:12:17Speaker 4: Because they ran into the Legion of Boom.
- 1:12:20Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a very sad season for me. Yeah.
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: I won money on the Super Bowl that year, but
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: I wasn't happy because I was rooting for Peyton Manning,
- 1:12:29Speaker 4: so I was not happy about it, but it won
- 1:12:31Speaker 4: me money.
- 1:12:32Speaker 6: You bet against your fucking team, dude.
- 1:12:35Speaker 4: Yeah, because I liked the defense.
- 1:12:37Speaker 6: In the Super Bowl, you bet against your own team in.
- 1:12:39Speaker 4: The Super Bowl? The hype was all this Denver offense
- 1:12:41Speaker 4: is incredible, whatever, and everybody was betting. I'm like, nah,
- 1:12:45Speaker 4: we got to bet the defense here with Seattle. That's
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: what we had to do.
- 1:12:48Speaker 6: I swear to God, if you bet against your fucking
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: team in the Super Bowl, you should just be put
- 1:12:54Speaker 6: in prison, honestly.
- 1:12:55Speaker 4: I do. I mean, I've done it multiple times before, so.
- 1:13:00Speaker 6: It's crazy that you're not in a penitentiary right now.
- 1:13:03Speaker 4: I bet on Denver when they won the Super Bowl, though,
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: the next year, because the hype was all Cam Newton, Panthers,
- 1:13:09Speaker 4: and it was, oh, Denver's offense has just completely imploded
- 1:13:12Speaker 4: this year. I was like, nope, Denver is the better
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: defense now this year, so give me it.
- 1:13:16Speaker 6: You're a maniac. You're a fucking maniac.
- 1:13:21Speaker 4: John is a maniac. All in on the Chargers. Wait,
- 1:13:23Speaker 4: because the Titans suck balls? What does that have to
- 1:13:26Speaker 4: do with anything?
- 1:13:27Speaker 6: Oh, because Titans are your team. He must be a
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: Titans fan.
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a Titans fan. I get it.
- 1:13:33Speaker 6: I like it.
- 1:13:33Speaker 5: I've converted a couple people into being Chargers fans.
- 1:13:37Speaker 6: Probably just because they want Tower Gang to come back,
- 1:13:39Speaker 6: but whatever.
- 1:13:40Speaker 4: I can't convert any of them to Colts fans. I've
- 1:13:43Speaker 4: not given them any incentive to root for the Colts.
- 1:13:46Speaker 6: Daniel Jones is not super appealing to watch personally.
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: Indiana Jones, baby. That's what they call him. I don't know, man.
- 1:13:57Speaker 4: He was fun to watch at the beginning of the
- 1:13:58Speaker 4: season last year, and the Rivers experiment was fun as well.
- 1:14:02Speaker 5: I really enjoyed that. Yeah, I think he only won
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: like one game, but he kept them in it in
- 1:14:07Speaker 5: every single game.
- 1:14:07Speaker 6: It was really cool.
- 1:14:09Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I also won money on one of them,
- 1:14:12Speaker 4: the one where they hung around with the Seahawks. That
- 1:14:14Speaker 4: was a winner for me.
- 1:14:15Speaker 6: It was.
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: Colts were like a 17-point dog, probably.
- 1:14:19Speaker 6: Yeah, wasn't that the overtime game?
- 1:14:21Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like 10-3 or something, 13-10, some shit.
- 1:14:24Speaker 5: Dude, Phillip Rivers sat on his couch, was coaching his
- 1:14:29Speaker 5: kids for a couple seasons, comes back in and takes
- 1:14:33Speaker 5: the future Super Bowl champion into playoffs single-handedly. His team
- 1:14:37Speaker 5: was playing like shit. I think it was like 45-40
- 1:14:39Speaker 5: or something like that. That was a really high-scoring game,
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: if I recall. Philip fucking rivers at 43, 44 years old.
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: Amazing. Amazing.
- 1:14:48Speaker 4: Hell yeah, man.
- 1:14:49Speaker 6: And people, and people still hate on him. It's insane.
- 1:14:51Speaker 4: Yeah. Colts. I don't know if they were actually as
- 1:14:54Speaker 4: good as the 2007 Patriots offense. They were putting up
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: a bunch of good numbers though. They lost Pittman this
- 1:14:59Speaker 4: year though. As I mentioned, Pittman, where did I say
- 1:15:02Speaker 4: he went? I forget. He's not on the Colts anymore though.
- 1:15:05Speaker 4: I forget where he's at now.
- 1:15:06Speaker 6: Did the chargers get a running back?
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: Uh, the, I think the running back is Hampton, right?
- 1:15:13Speaker 4: The guy that they drafted two years ago or whatever.
- 1:15:16Speaker 4: Am I right about that? I don't know. Let me look.
- 1:15:19Speaker 4: I think that's right.
- 1:15:20Speaker 6: That sounds right. So when's week one? Is it next Sunday?
- 1:15:24Speaker 8: Yep.
- 1:15:25Speaker 4: Yeah, so next Sunday.
- 1:15:26Speaker 6: Thursday, right?
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: Wednesday, actually, this year. The stupid NFL is changing all
- 1:15:31Speaker 4: this shit. So the first game is now Wednesday, which
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: is the Seahawks, Super Bowl champions, hosting the Patriots in
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: a Super Bowl rematch. Then the Thursday night game is
- 1:15:42Speaker 4: on Netflix, and it is taking place in Australia. And
- 1:15:46Speaker 4: it is Rams 49ers, I believe.
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: That's crazy.
- 1:15:50Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the rest of the teams are playing
- 1:15:51Speaker 4: on Sunday. Well, there's the Monday night games. I think
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: there's one or two Monday night games, too.
- 1:15:59Speaker 6: So we get two games Wednesday, Thursday.
- 1:16:00Speaker 5: We get probably two Monday night games, and then we
- 1:16:03Speaker 5: only get, I'm guessing, what's that leave?
- 1:16:06Speaker 6: 16 minus 4. That means we get 12 games on Sunday.
- 1:16:12Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that might be right. John Black is
- 1:16:15Speaker 4: saying he's going to root for the Chargers if you
- 1:16:17Speaker 4: unblock him. I've almost blocked John before, to be honest.
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: I've almost blocked him.
- 1:16:22Speaker 5: You've got to tell me your handle. People always bitch
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: at me for blocking them, and I'm like, look, I'll
- 1:16:26Speaker 5: unblock anybody. You've just got to tell me your handle, though.
- 1:16:28Speaker 6: I don't know what it is.
- 1:16:29Speaker 4: I'll send it to you.
- 1:16:30Speaker 6: All right, cool.
- 1:16:33Speaker 4: The most doomed team, the Vikings with Murray. I don't know.
- 1:16:37Speaker 4: I mean....
- 1:16:39Speaker 6: I'd say the Browns with that black quarterback.
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: Yeah, the Browns. Oh, God.
- 1:16:43Speaker 5: The Browns with three black quarterbacks.
- 1:16:47Speaker 4: The Browns are pretty doomed, man.
- 1:16:49Speaker 6: The odds makers are saying the Browns with the Browns.
- 1:16:53Speaker 4: Dude, the Falcons, though. The Falcons are pretty doomed with
- 1:16:56Speaker 4: the Tua thing. That's not going to work out.
- 1:16:59Speaker 5: Unless Strand takes him to a level, man. I like
- 1:17:02Speaker 5: Tua way more than fucking that menagerie of blacks.
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: Well, watch out. Jack Strand is white. Does that make
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: you like him more? Watch out for him, man.
- 1:17:11Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to touch. I don't think
- 1:17:12Speaker 6: he's going to sniff the field. Two is going to
- 1:17:14Speaker 6: bounce back.
- 1:17:14Speaker 5: He'll get brain damaged in week 11, and then your
- 1:17:17Speaker 5: guy can come in.
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17:20Speaker 4: Yes, the NFL is good. Dude, they have way too
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: many foreign games now, the international games. They play games
- 1:17:27Speaker 4: in Brazil now, Australia. Last year it was Spain. Of course,
- 1:17:31Speaker 4: they do the London games, the Germany games, whatever the fuck.
- 1:17:34Speaker 4: It's all so stupid, man. I think there was an
- 1:17:37Speaker 4: Ireland game last year, too. Tua? No, Tua's a... He's
- 1:17:41Speaker 4: like a Samoan.
- 1:17:43Speaker 6: He's Samoan.
- 1:17:43Speaker 8: Right?
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: Yeah. Tua, Tago, Viola.
- 1:17:47Speaker 5: I used to play beach volleyball with a bunch of
- 1:17:50Speaker 5: NFL players, Samoans, and they knew him somehow.
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: I was like, oh, that's neat.
- 1:17:55Speaker 4: Whoa. That's pretty cool.
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17:58Speaker 4: Even though I think he's a failed quarterback.
- 1:18:00Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's not particularly his fault. I mean, I
- 1:18:05Speaker 5: honestly think he's got brain damage, and he started off Samoan,
- 1:18:07Speaker 5: so like, you know.
- 1:18:08Speaker 8: Hmm.
- 1:18:09Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not a whole lot left after that.
- 1:18:15Speaker 5: It's true, though. They are the biggest freak athletes that
- 1:18:19Speaker 5: have ever walked the earth, though. If you've never played
- 1:18:21Speaker 5: sports with a Samoan, you should try it. It's fucking incredible.
- 1:18:24Speaker 5: These NFL Samoan dudes would come and play beach volleyball
- 1:18:29Speaker 5: with us, and it was like they didn't.
- 1:18:32Speaker 6: Play like humans.
- 1:18:34Speaker 5: They played like, I don't know, like some sort of
- 1:18:37Speaker 5: alien being sent to earth to just fucking destroy us
- 1:18:39Speaker 5: in athletics. Absolute freaks there. They were all shorter than
- 1:18:43Speaker 5: me and could all jump higher than me, like a
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: lot higher. And they were all jacked.
- 1:18:48Speaker 4: The Samoans.
- 1:18:49Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: I mean, they're, there are a bunch of different like
- 1:18:51Speaker 4: breeds of them, right? They're the ones that are the
- 1:18:53Speaker 4: linemen who are just like these huge fat guys and
- 1:18:55Speaker 4: they somehow, but yeah, or super strong play really well.
- 1:19:00Speaker 5: Even the fat Simone can still fucking jump seven feet
- 1:19:03Speaker 5: in the air and fucking spike it as hard as
- 1:19:04Speaker 5: you've ever seen. They're, they're absolute super athletes. They're the,
- 1:19:07Speaker 5: They're the freakiest of athletes I've ever witnessed with my
- 1:19:11Speaker 5: own two eyes.
- 1:19:11Speaker 4: It's crazy. That's why there are so many of them
- 1:19:13Speaker 4: in football, I guess, then. They don't play basketball usually, though.
- 1:19:18Speaker 4: Despite the jumping ability.
- 1:19:20Speaker 5: I don't think that they have, broadly speaking, I don't
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: think that they have the, I want to say IQ
- 1:19:27Speaker 5: just for the joke, but I don't think that they
- 1:19:29Speaker 5: have the pinpoint accuracy necessary to play basketball.
- 1:19:34Speaker 4: They can't shoot. But they can be good defensive players, though.
- 1:19:37Speaker 5: Oh, they'd be great on defense, but you can't, you know,
- 1:19:40Speaker 5: you've got to do more than that. So I think
- 1:19:41Speaker 5: that like what they, they make up for in, you know,
- 1:19:46Speaker 5: they have elite level jumping and strength, like unbelievable strength,
- 1:19:52Speaker 5: but then they lack the accuracy for whatever reason. So
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: I think that that's why football is so good for them.
- 1:19:58Speaker 4: Interesting. Hell yeah. These guys are talking about... We should
- 1:20:04Speaker 4: do a race realism professional sports draft.
- 1:20:11Speaker 6: I stand by it.
- 1:20:12Speaker 5: I still think that white men are better at quarterback,
- 1:20:14Speaker 5: broadly speaking, than any other race.
- 1:20:18Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they tend to have the better arms,
- 1:20:19Speaker 4: that's for sure. Well, it probably has something to do with...
- 1:20:22Speaker 4: Am I allowed to say that it has to do
- 1:20:24Speaker 4: with IQ?
- 1:20:25Speaker 5: Like, I don't know. You know exactly why. Everybody knows why.
- 1:20:28Speaker 5: We're going to pretend otherwise we can't.
- 1:20:29Speaker 6: That's stupid.
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:20:31Speaker 6: That's the whole reason that Mendoza is going to suck.
- 1:20:33Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he, he looks white at least.
- 1:20:37Speaker 8: Well, then he's still, he's still got a shot. Dude,
- 1:20:45Speaker 8: he is massively autistic.
- 1:20:47Speaker 4: Actually. Have you seen him interviewed?
- 1:20:50Speaker 6: He's like, he's probably autistic or is he Mexican?
- 1:20:54Speaker 4: I think he's autistic. Like he probably, then maybe he's white.
- 1:20:57Speaker 4: They haven't released it yet, but he probably got a
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: perfect score on the Wunderlich and whatever. This guy's like,
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: he might be the most autistic quarterback in NFL history.
- 1:21:07Speaker 5: That could be a benefit then.
- 1:21:10Speaker 6: Maybe I've been a little overly harsh because of his
- 1:21:15Speaker 6: last name.
- 1:21:15Speaker 4: He's going to beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick.
- 1:21:19Speaker 5: Wait, Ryan Fitzpatrick's still in the league?
- 1:21:21Speaker 4: No, not anymore. I said in history. Ryan Fitzpatrick's a
- 1:21:24Speaker 4: commentator now.
- 1:21:26Speaker 3: Oh, oh, oh.
- 1:21:26Speaker 4: I love that guy, though. I love Ryan Fitzpatrick.
- 1:21:29Speaker 5: I was like, Fitzpatrick came out of retirement to compete
- 1:21:32Speaker 5: with this kid for the Raiders starting gig?
- 1:21:34Speaker 4: Like, what? No, no, no. No, just in his... I
- 1:21:36Speaker 4: said just most autistic in history, yeah.
- 1:21:39Speaker 6: He's probably younger than Rivers, so it's not impossible.
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: Yeah. That's true. That's true. He could still do it. Yes,
- 1:21:48Speaker 4: that is what we're arguing. Kawhi Leonard.
- 1:21:51Speaker 7: Dude.
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard just cost the Clippers. You saw what happened, right?
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: Kawhi Leonard cost the Clippers five draft picks. It's crazy.
- 1:21:58Speaker 6: In fairness, did he cause them that? They didn't have
- 1:22:00Speaker 6: to do that.
- 1:22:01Speaker 4: No, no. The Clippers, yeah. I think it's the Clippers' fault.
- 1:22:07Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:22:08Speaker 4: I don't know, man. It's all stupid.
- 1:22:13Speaker 6: I think it's all kind of bullshit.
- 1:22:14Speaker 5: It's hilarious because these hood dudes, they hire their uncle
- 1:22:17Speaker 5: to be their agent, and then they're like, yo. I
- 1:22:20Speaker 5: need a 4% ownership stake in the fucking Boston Celtics
- 1:22:24Speaker 5: if you want Kawhi to play there. They're like, do
- 1:22:27Speaker 5: you know what an NBA franchise is worth? And he's like, look,
- 1:22:31Speaker 5: I'm Uncle Leonard, so you better fucking give me what
- 1:22:33Speaker 5: I ask, bro. It's insane that anybody puts up with
- 1:22:36Speaker 5: that nonsense, but I guess with Kawhi is such an
- 1:22:39Speaker 5: elite talent, you're just like, yeah, bring this fucking idiot
- 1:22:41Speaker 5: in here.
- 1:22:42Speaker 4: I don't know, man. That's a doomed franchise for you,
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: the Clippers.
- 1:22:49Speaker 5: Yeah, they're like the Chargers. Honestly, the Chargers have had
- 1:22:52Speaker 5: way more success than the Clippers, yeah. I'm glad that
- 1:22:58Speaker 5: I was not alive when the fucking Clippers briefly paid
- 1:23:01Speaker 5: for San Diego, because if I was, I'd probably be
- 1:23:04Speaker 5: a Clippers fan, but since I was born after, I
- 1:23:06Speaker 5: get to, guilt-free, I get to root for the fucking Lakers.
- 1:23:10Speaker 6: Thank God.
- 1:23:12Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:23:13Speaker 4: Kawhi's sister is a murderer, apparently. I don't know. I'd
- 1:23:16Speaker 4: have to look that up. I have no idea.
- 1:23:18Speaker 6: That's crazy. Dude, Kawhi played for my Aztecs. It was
- 1:23:22Speaker 6: so fun. I went to the... I think I went
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: to the Elite Eight game when he took them there,
- 1:23:28Speaker 6: but it might have been Sweet 16.
- 1:23:29Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember which game that was. That was
- 1:23:34Speaker 4: long ago.
- 1:23:35Speaker 6: Yeah, very long time ago now.
- 1:23:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I vaguely remember that. Better times, man,
- 1:23:42Speaker 4: because I saw the Aztecs play up here and just
- 1:23:45Speaker 4: get absolutely destroyed by UConn, and I was not happy
- 1:23:48Speaker 4: about it. I was at that game a couple of
- 1:23:51Speaker 4: years ago.
- 1:23:52Speaker 5: It has been really fun though. Cause the Aztecs were
- 1:23:54Speaker 5: like just a laughing stock for my entire childhood. And
- 1:23:58Speaker 5: then in my adult life, they've been, thanks to Steve Fisher,
- 1:24:01Speaker 5: they've been like always, I mean, I wouldn't say a contender,
- 1:24:05Speaker 5: but always a ranked team, you know?
- 1:24:09Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: All right, man. Any closing thoughts? Maybe we could do,
- 1:24:19Speaker 4: plugs as well.
- 1:24:20Speaker 6: Uh, no, no plugs.
- 1:24:22Speaker 8: Nope.
- 1:24:23Speaker 4: No plugs.
- 1:24:24Speaker 8: Nope.
- 1:24:25Speaker 6: Plugs are for gay people, gay people and black quarterbacks.
- 1:24:28Speaker 6: And we're not either of those things.
- 1:24:29Speaker 4: So, well, yeah, they do go in your butt. So
- 1:24:33Speaker 4: it's pretty gay. Well, any, any closing thoughts you got Clint?
- 1:24:38Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, I'll just, I'll just implore your extraordinarily
- 1:24:42Speaker 6: large San Diego state head. Yeah, dude, you're talking, you're
- 1:24:45Speaker 6: talking football. I'm talking basketball, bro.
- 1:24:47Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't even remember that. I don't, I remember
- 1:24:49Speaker 4: Marshall Falk in the NFL. I'm a little bit too
- 1:24:51Speaker 4: young to remember.
- 1:24:51Speaker 6: I told the story on tower game. I'm fucking, I'm
- 1:24:54Speaker 6: Eskimo brothers.
- 1:24:55Speaker 4: I remember that. Yeah. I, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah.
- 1:24:58Speaker 4: I just, I didn't.
- 1:24:59Speaker 6: Know a lot of, a lot of times over. I'm
- 1:25:01Speaker 6: as well. Like I'm Eskimo brothers with him both, both
- 1:25:04Speaker 6: before and after.
- 1:25:05Speaker 4: That's, that is crazy, man. Yeah.
- 1:25:10Speaker 6: And, and, and I could notice the difference. Think about
- 1:25:13Speaker 6: how crazy that is.
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: Wait, what?
- 1:25:20Speaker 5: I dated her in high school and then I dated
- 1:25:22Speaker 5: her again when I was almost 30.
- 1:25:25Speaker 4: So she was different pre-falk than post-falk.
- 1:25:28Speaker 6: She was post-falked up.
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: Post being fucked by falk.
- 1:25:36Speaker 6: Falked by falk. She got falked to death, dude. It
- 1:25:39Speaker 6: was a problem.
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: Alright.
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: Sure.
- 1:25:49Speaker 7: I didn't.
- 1:25:49Speaker 5: And by the way, I didn't actually know that she
- 1:25:51Speaker 5: had banged, uh, Marshall until after I banged her again.
- 1:25:54Speaker 6: And I was like, Ooh, that's a, that's.
- 1:25:56Speaker 4: A whole, you probably would not have decided to do that.
- 1:26:01Speaker 6: I I'd like to think I wouldn't, but I don't know.
- 1:26:05Speaker 4: That would have disqualified her if you knew. Yeah.
- 1:26:09Speaker 6: I mean, he was a, wasn't he a Heisman trophy winner?
- 1:26:15Speaker 4: I don't know. That was a little before my time.
- 1:26:17Speaker 4: He might have been. I just remember him in the NFL.
- 1:26:19Speaker 6: He won a ring with the Rams, right? He's a
- 1:26:20Speaker 6: Hall of Famer.
- 1:26:22Speaker 4: That might be right. That was when the Rams beat
- 1:26:25Speaker 4: the Titans. Yeah, I think he was there. Sorry, John.
- 1:26:29Speaker 4: I was rooting for the Titans. I was a McNair
- 1:26:31Speaker 4: fan back then. I was rooting for the Titans.
- 1:26:35Speaker 5: So not only was I pretty sure he's a Heisman winner,
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: Hall of Famer, and a Super Bowl winner, and Clint
- 1:26:41Speaker 5: Russell's Eskimo brother. Pretty fucking, pretty prestigious career.
- 1:26:45Speaker 6: Or life, if you will.
- 1:26:46Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:26:47Speaker 6: Pretty big deal. Pretty big deal for him. Not for me.
- 1:26:51Speaker 8: No, no, no.
- 1:26:52Speaker 4: The McCaffrey of his era? That doesn't sound right.
- 1:26:56Speaker 6: He caught, he ran, you know.
- 1:26:59Speaker 4: Oh, all right. I thought we were talking about something else.
- 1:27:02Speaker 4: I was like, there's a difference between the two. Oh,
- 1:27:06Speaker 4: my God.
- 1:27:08Speaker 6: And he had a piece on him, apparently.
- 1:27:11Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:27:12Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:27:14Speaker 4: No, of course not. That was one of the saddest
- 1:27:16Speaker 4: days that there ever was, man. McNair, I hated that.
- 1:27:20Speaker 6: Yeah, that was really sad.
- 1:27:22Speaker 4: Yeah, and that derailed Vince Young, by the way. It
- 1:27:25Speaker 4: was full circle going back to Vince Young. Vince Young,
- 1:27:28Speaker 4: McNair was like his father figure, if you didn't know that.
- 1:27:31Speaker 6: Who was the redskin that got killed during the robbery?
- 1:27:36Speaker 4: Sean Taylor, was that his name?
- 1:27:38Speaker 6: Yep.
- 1:27:39Speaker 4: I feel like that was right. Yeah, that was crazy, dude.
- 1:27:41Speaker 4: That happened. He was defending his home, if I remember correctly.
- 1:27:45Speaker 4: That's crazy shit.
- 1:27:47Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:27:49Speaker 4: Yeah, that was wild. He was a freak, dude. He
- 1:27:51Speaker 4: was really good.
- 1:27:54Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:27:55Speaker 4: He was crazy.
- 1:27:55Speaker 6: He was an elite athlete. Yeah.
- 1:27:58Speaker 5: Anyways, those are my closing comments. Marshall Falk, Eskimo brother.
- 1:28:02Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, man.
- 1:28:04Speaker 4: I like ending on that. Yeah, thanks for coming on, man.
- 1:28:08Speaker 4: We can do it again if you want to do
- 1:28:09Speaker 4: one for predicting the baseball playoffs. We can be back. Hopefully,
- 1:28:13Speaker 4: both of our teams will be in it. I don't know.
- 1:28:16Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll make you that deal. If the Padres actually
- 1:28:19Speaker 6: make the playoffs, then I'll consider doing that.
- 1:28:22Speaker 4: You don't want to do it otherwise?
- 1:28:24Speaker 6: I'll just be sad, and it'll be pointless. All right.
- 1:28:27Speaker 6: And then otherwise, actually, I probably follow basketball more than
- 1:28:33Speaker 6: I do any other sport, to be honest.
- 1:28:35Speaker 4: We can do an NBA preview if you want.
- 1:28:38Speaker 6: Yeah, when's the season start? Is that October?
- 1:28:40Speaker 4: Usually, yeah. Sometime in October, I think. It might be November.
- 1:28:45Speaker 4: I don't know. It's somewhere late October, early November or
- 1:28:47Speaker 4: something like that.
- 1:28:48Speaker 6: Dude, speaking of white, the Lakers are going to be
- 1:28:52Speaker 6: really interesting to watch, dude, having fucking all white guys.
- 1:28:55Speaker 6: It's going to be fun.
- 1:28:58Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, yeah. That might be actually, it makes me
- 1:29:00Speaker 4: not hate them as much, and they don't have LeBron anymore.
- 1:29:03Speaker 4: I might not hate them. I might not hate them
- 1:29:05Speaker 4: as much.
- 1:29:05Speaker 5: Dude, you already abandoned the Patriots to become a fucking
- 1:29:08Speaker 5: Colts fan for some retarded reason. Just abandon the Celtics.
- 1:29:11Speaker 5: Become a Lakers fan.
- 1:29:12Speaker 4: No, I can't. There's no way I'm going to do that.
- 1:29:14Speaker 5: You can get a big fucking white power tattoo on
- 1:29:17Speaker 5: your fucking, both your cheeks, and you can be like,
- 1:29:19Speaker 5: and then you can have Luca's face in the dead
- 1:29:21Speaker 5: center in your forehead.
- 1:29:22Speaker 4: I still hate the Lakers, but my hate is directed
- 1:29:24Speaker 4: at the 76ers this season for the most part.
- 1:29:28Speaker 6: Yeah, it should be.
- 1:29:29Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:29:29Speaker 4: We can all gang up on them and hate them.
- 1:29:31Speaker 6: They're like the Eastern Conference All-Stars is their starting lineup.
- 1:29:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I hate it. That's pretty sick. McNair
- 1:29:40Speaker 4: signed Swartz Illustrated. Hell yeah. Yes, we're ending the show
- 1:29:44Speaker 4: at the worst possible. That's how I do it all
- 1:29:46Speaker 4: the time, man. As soon as I see my viewership grow,
- 1:29:49Speaker 4: I end the show.
- 1:29:50Speaker 5: How many live viewers do we got?
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: 40?
- 1:29:52Speaker 4: 114 right now.
- 1:29:54Speaker 6: That's a lot more than I would have thought.
- 1:29:56Speaker 4: It's the Clint effect, man.
- 1:29:58Speaker 6: Dude, I didn't even share the stream. Had I shared this,
- 1:30:00Speaker 6: we would have had 1,000.
- 1:30:02Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:30:03Speaker 6: I just didn't share it.
- 1:30:04Speaker 5: Because I'd rather just be racist, and I don't want
- 1:30:06Speaker 5: to be racist in front of 1,000 people.
- 1:30:08Speaker 4: Well, that was Tower Game we did, but yeah. It's
- 1:30:12Speaker 4: all good, man. But yeah, I think I usually probably
- 1:30:14Speaker 4: get about 40 on my normal shows, which is still
- 1:30:18Speaker 4: pretty bad, but it is what it is. For my
- 1:30:23Speaker 4: losing bets.
- 1:30:24Speaker 5: Shout out to the 40 and shout out to the
- 1:30:26Speaker 5: 120 or whatever it is tonight. Thank you guys for
- 1:30:28Speaker 5: tuning in. Make sure you hit that subscribe on your
- 1:30:31Speaker 5: way out. Hit the like button. Share the show around.
- 1:30:33Speaker 5: Let all of your friends and family know if they
- 1:30:35Speaker 5: are a degenerate gambler, there is only one show they
- 1:30:38Speaker 5: should be watching. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is Better
- 1:30:40Speaker 5: Off Dead, a.k.a. Toadstool Sports, a.k.a. T-O-A-D, motherfucking toad in
- 1:30:47Speaker 5: the building, homeboy.
- 1:30:49Speaker 6: Let's go. We're out.
- 1:30:50Speaker 4: Hell yeah. Thank you, Clint. Peace, everybody.
- 1:30:56Speaker 7: If the dark starts talking, hand me the phone.
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: Let somebody answer, let somebody know. You do not have.
- 1:31:06Speaker 2: To lose this round alone.
- 1:31:13Speaker 7: Hold on, hold on, not tonight. Not now Hold on,
- 1:31:24Speaker 7: hold on Let me pull you out.
- 1:31:30Speaker 3: That bad luck fights hard But it don't get the
- 1:31:37Speaker 3: crown Hold on, hold on Stay with me now.
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. You're still here now. You're still
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: here now.