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How Is This Fair? It Even Excludes Black Women · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
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  Speaker 1: your day and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Thursday morning, twenty fourth day of October. I'm Wes, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for joining me. Day after my son's sixteenth birthday, everybody asks,
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  Speaker 2: is he getting his license? No, he's not really there yet.
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  Speaker 2: He likes Mario Kart, you know, that's what he likes.
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  Speaker 2: As far as driving at this point. Is there a
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  Speaker 2: version of driving for Tetris He would be into that
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  Speaker 2: really big time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if he wants to go somewhere, he gets
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  Speaker 2: taken there. I don't know what the urgency is to
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  Speaker 2: get out there on his own, but I know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people that I'm hearing similar stories from people,
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  Speaker 2: although I know there are still some kids that are like, sixteen,
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  Speaker 2: gotta go get me my license. I'm ready to room
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  Speaker 2: room out the door. It's not my probably not going
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  Speaker 2: to be the other one either, who's He's a few
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  Speaker 2: weeks away from turning thirteen. So anyway, but we're on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of that now. I want to I
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  Speaker 2: know we're getting We're now a week and a half
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  Speaker 2: away from election day. Record turnouts in Georgia. I guess
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  Speaker 2: every day. I think every day there's been some sort
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  Speaker 2: of I mean, it's an insane number of people who've
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  Speaker 2: already voted in Georgia, and by most accounts, I think
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  Speaker 2: the experts are saying that that may be very advantageous
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  Speaker 2: to Trump. I don't really understand how that works. I
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  Speaker 2: know that we're seeing a lot of polling data showing
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  Speaker 2: Trump pulling away in a lot of the battleground states.
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  Speaker 2: I saw where Nate Silver, who does his forecast for things,
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  Speaker 2: currently has Trump in the lead. He said, if he's
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  Speaker 2: making a pick, he says Trump. He says he personally
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  Speaker 2: would vote for Harris, but or has voted for Harris
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  Speaker 2: or will or I don't know, but that's who he
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  Speaker 2: wants to vote for, or did or at least he
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  Speaker 2: said that. But he has a current prediction Trump to win. Now.
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  Speaker 2: He had Trump winning a few months ago. Then the
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  Speaker 2: debate happened. Then there was a little bit of that
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  Speaker 2: honeymoon period and factored into that as well, and it
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  Speaker 2: looked like Harris was kind of pulling ahead. Well, now
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  Speaker 2: all of that has readjusted itself and we're back still
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  Speaker 2: within margin of error. Although Nate silver, and his prediction
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  Speaker 2: basically says, don't be shocked if one of these two doesn't,
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  Speaker 2: you know, win this thing. Don't be surprised if one
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  Speaker 2: of them does win this thing by less than a
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  Speaker 2: photo or more than a photo finish, I mean, but
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  Speaker 2: not a photo finish. And he just said that there's
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  Speaker 2: the potential for it based on that margin of error things.
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  Speaker 2: I would think this is just. And again I don't
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  Speaker 2: make predictions, but based on what we're seeing in battleground
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  Speaker 2: states and polling, even in I think Trump is now
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  Speaker 2: if he's not overtaken in the popular vote, it's closer
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  Speaker 2: than it should be electoral college. It's certainly pointing in
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  Speaker 2: the direction with those battleground states that if one of
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  Speaker 2: them were to win very big, it would be more
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  Speaker 2: likely for it to be Trump. Trump, of course, was
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  Speaker 2: in Duluth yesterday with I guess Turning Turning Points Action
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  Speaker 2: Committee or what so, and he was there with Tulca Gabbard,
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  Speaker 2: and we've talked a little bit this week about some
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  Speaker 2: of the I think benefits for including Tulsi Gabbard in
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  Speaker 2: this campaign, potentially in a cabinet position or you know,
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  Speaker 2: if Trump were to win, and how that's been winning
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  Speaker 2: over some independence when you're showing this desire to reach
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  Speaker 2: over and it's not reaching over for someone like Dick
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  Speaker 2: Cheney or Liz Cheney or part of the establishment Republican
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  Speaker 2: side that I know. Kamala Harris has said, this is
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  Speaker 2: who I've had crossover the aisle to support me. When
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about RFK Junior and you're talking about Tulca
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  Speaker 2: Gabbard and you're talking about Elon Musky. Elon Musk has
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  Speaker 2: now gotten this reputation of being this conservative and he's not.
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  Speaker 2: He's never identified as a Republican or as a conservative,
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  Speaker 2: and he has said repeatedly he does not really want
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  Speaker 2: to be involved in politics. That's not what he ever
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  Speaker 2: really set out to do, and he wishes now that
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't, but he just feels like he can't sit
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  Speaker 2: on the sidelines anymore. There was a point back in
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  Speaker 2: I guess during the Bush administration where that mentality, in
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  Speaker 2: that mindset started to rear its head. Kind of in
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  Speaker 2: the entertainment world. I know that there's always sort of
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  Speaker 2: been this far left entertainment thing, but there was a
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  Speaker 2: point where, like with late night talk shows, is when
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  Speaker 2: you thought this is never gonna happen to late night
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  Speaker 2: talk shows, and then it did. I grew up a
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  Speaker 2: huge Carson fan, I grew up a huge Letterman fan.
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  Speaker 2: These were people that I thought were funny. I liked
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  Speaker 2: the ability they had to make fun of whoever was
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  Speaker 2: in charge. And at some point post nine to eleven
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  Speaker 2: in that Bush George W. Bush administration, David Letterman decided
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  Speaker 2: this is too important for me to not get involved
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  Speaker 2: and not support aside. And that's really when things drastically
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  Speaker 2: changed on that late night comedy SNL used to I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they certainly had their moments where they were, you know,
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  Speaker 2: pro more one side than the other, But there used
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  Speaker 2: to be this mindset of let's make fun of all
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  Speaker 2: of them, let's have fun at the expense of the
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  Speaker 2: people in power. That's one of those things that happens
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  Speaker 2: at a job. That's one of the things that unites
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  Speaker 2: the employees. At a job.
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  Speaker 1: You get a.
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  Speaker 2: Group of disgruntled employees that don't like the boss, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you a group of employees that probably get
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  Speaker 2: along with each other. I mean, I think our inability
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  Speaker 2: now to look up at the people in charge, have
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  Speaker 2: a laugh at their expense, but still be able to
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  Speaker 2: respect them in some way is part of what is
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  Speaker 2: well represented in this division that we have, because it's
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  Speaker 2: just a con Like, you go to work and if
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  Speaker 2: half of the staff likes the boss and the other
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  Speaker 2: half doesn't like the boss, that's going to cause division
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  Speaker 2: in that workplace. If in a family, half the family
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  Speaker 2: likes the the you know, the patriarch, and the other
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  Speaker 2: half doesn't, you know, you're gonna have some conflict. People
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  Speaker 2: fighting over the will, fighting over what's gonna happen for them.
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  Speaker 2: But if everybody likes or doesn't like and it's probably
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  Speaker 2: too much to think we're gonna all like whoever's in charge,
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  Speaker 2: but if we can all at least kind of poke
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  Speaker 2: fun at them, maybe you got that boss at work
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  Speaker 2: that you like, you enjoy kind of having a go
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  Speaker 2: at him. So if you do that with other employees,
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  Speaker 2: even the people that you don't really get along with,
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  Speaker 2: you might end up, you know, making that connection. Kids
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  Speaker 2: do it at school with teachers. You want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about kids, it's school that don't get along. Give them
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  Speaker 2: one bad teacher. Those kids are going to get along.
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  Speaker 2: They got something to unite over. And that's sort of
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  Speaker 2: what we had with late night talk shows and S
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  Speaker 2: and L and some of the comedy that we just
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  Speaker 2: were able to enjoy together collectively. And then suddenly it's
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  Speaker 2: too important. And that's what Elon Musk has now said.
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  Speaker 2: It's too important to just sit on the sidelines, and
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  Speaker 2: I have to speak up because I feel like we
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  Speaker 2: might not have an America to live in. I love
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  Speaker 2: hearing him talk about the importance of you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you're in California and you don't like what's in California,
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  Speaker 2: you don't like your experience in California, you feel like
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  Speaker 2: you're being taxed to death and your quality of life
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  Speaker 2: isn't great, you can leave California. You can pack up
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  Speaker 2: all of your things and move to a state where
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  Speaker 2: you feel like the people who run the state are
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  Speaker 2: listening to you. And He's like, what happens when the
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  Speaker 2: whole country becomes California. There's nowhere to go. This is it,
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  Speaker 2: this is all that we have. We've got these United
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  Speaker 2: States of America, and then there's nowhere to go. So
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  Speaker 2: where do you go when that happens? And you think
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  Speaker 2: about the people who gave so much in some cases,
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  Speaker 2: like people lost their lives along the journey, so that
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  Speaker 2: a family could get here from Cuba, from places where
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  Speaker 2: they worked Venezuela, places they fought and worked hard to
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  Speaker 2: get away, and then they get here. That lady that
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  Speaker 2: was in the talking to former President Trump and the
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  Speaker 2: McDonald's drive through, don't let this country become Brazil. And
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  Speaker 2: he said, we're not think about coming from there to
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  Speaker 2: here just to watch it all dwindle away. What is
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  Speaker 2: the what is the message about the freedoms that we've
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  Speaker 2: all enjoyed when you have people that come from those
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  Speaker 2: countries and tell us you're becoming that. I want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about something that happened earlier this week, and I
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  Speaker 2: just you know, one of the reasons that I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of independence are looking at Trump, even if
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  Speaker 2: they don't vote for him, they're at least looking at him.
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  Speaker 2: One of the reasons that I think that so many
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  Speaker 2: conservatives are, you know, locked in on Trump, and it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, you've got and we talked about this the
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  Speaker 2: other day. You got the people that they just hate him,
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to vote for him because they hate him.
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  Speaker 2: Then you got the people who you know, they love him.
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  Speaker 2: But we're not really in a position where you've got
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  Speaker 2: people they just love Harris, Right, that's just one of
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  Speaker 2: those things that you're you're you're basically a vote for
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  Speaker 2: Harris as a vote against Trump. So sort of that
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  Speaker 2: mindset that's that's there. And Harris has struggled to pull
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  Speaker 2: in black men as voters. There's been some speculation about
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  Speaker 2: whether or not it's because they don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: a woman president Donald I'm sorry, Barack Obama accused them
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  Speaker 2: outright of if you're thinking about voting for Trump because
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  Speaker 2: you don't want a woman to be president or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a struggle there, and I think that there
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  Speaker 2: is a call by a lot of conservatives at least
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  Speaker 2: for some semblance of freedom, some semblance of justice, some
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  Speaker 2: semblance of actual true accountability for things. It's not with everybody,
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  Speaker 2: but I do think that on the right that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the things. Like people see people coming across the
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  Speaker 2: border illegally and getting things that they made no contributions
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  Speaker 2: to financially, and they say that's not fair. Look at
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina and George, parts of Georgia, parts of Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: parts of South Carolina, and they say at Florida, Hawaii,
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  Speaker 2: they say, this isn't fair. Where's the justice for the
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  Speaker 2: American citizens who have given some sort of money, And
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  Speaker 2: why is that money going to Ukraine? Why is that
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  Speaker 2: money going to people who snuck across the border, Why
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  Speaker 2: is that money going anywhere? Why is it going to Lebanon?
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  Speaker 2: Why is it going anywhere but to the people who
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  Speaker 2: actually contributed to the kiddie And why are they not
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  Speaker 2: getting some of their own money back and money that
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  Speaker 2: that's what it could be used for. So I think
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  Speaker 2: there is a call for some sort of fairness. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is that fair to say? I feel like there's people
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  Speaker 2: who want that that just they don't see what's happening
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  Speaker 2: and they don't think that what's happening is fair. So
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  Speaker 2: you probably heard about this, and this has been a
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  Speaker 2: few days of this promise that Kamala Harris, who knows
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  Speaker 2: that she's not doing well with black men, and they've
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  Speaker 2: taken shots at black men, and they're running ads where
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  Speaker 2: they're discouraging women from you know, hooking up with black
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  Speaker 2: men if they don't vote for Harris, and the Vice President,
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  Speaker 2: knowing that she's in trouble with black men, has released
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  Speaker 2: the Opportunity Agenda for Black Men earlier this week, And
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't understand how you can even say
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  Speaker 2: this out loud. But this is a five point plan
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  Speaker 2: to this one million forgivable loans up to twenty thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars for black entrepreneurs and others who have historically faced
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  Speaker 2: barriers to starting new business forgivable forgivable, And they say
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to help expand pass ways for black men
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  Speaker 2: to get good paying jobs. That's another part of it.
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't understand now, I don't understand how
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  Speaker 2: you can just say this out loud. How is there
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  Speaker 2: a constitutionality of this? How do you say that this
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  Speaker 2: is in any way constitutional? How do you say this
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  Speaker 2: is fair? How do you say that giving out loans
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  Speaker 2: forgivable loans at that basically buying votes? Forget an attempt
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  Speaker 2: at buying votes. Hey, if you vote for me and
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  Speaker 2: I've become president, I would be happy to give you, you know,
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  Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars for your business. Would that ever happen?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that you. I think
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  Speaker 2: if you fight this in the courts, you would certainly
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  Speaker 2: think those challenges would not come through. But that's not
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  Speaker 2: the point, is it. The point is that you want
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  Speaker 2: to make the promise. It's like the you know, forgiving
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  Speaker 2: student loans. We go through that around election time, all
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  Speaker 2: that we're gonna forgive student loans. Oh my gosh, you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna forgive student loans. Hey, when are you gonna forgive
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  Speaker 2: those student loans? Ah? Yeah, it turns out we can't
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  Speaker 2: do that. Three and a half years later, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: forgive student loans. We're gonna do that again. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: bring that back up again. We're gonna magically, it's time
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  Speaker 2: to talk about that. So you can't give out money
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  Speaker 2: based on race. You can't give out a forgivable loan
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  Speaker 2: to someone based on race, can you? How do you
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  Speaker 2: do that? How do you justify that? How do you
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  Speaker 2: say that out loud? In twenty twenty four? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if eligibility for the loan, I'm sorry, the gift, I
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  Speaker 2: mean we're talking about a forgivable right, a forgivable loan.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean? It's a gift in exchange for
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  Speaker 2: if you vote. Now there's people questioning this giveaway that
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  Speaker 2: Elon Musk is doing. If you sign a petition to
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  Speaker 2: support Trump in the election, you're not promising to vote
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  Speaker 2: for him. You're just promising to support him and speak
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  Speaker 2: up on his behalf, you could win a million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It's different. It's different. It's one thing to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do this. You sign a pledge of support,
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  Speaker 2: and you're eligible to win a million dollars a day
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  Speaker 2: every day and I don't know. I guess they've been
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  Speaker 2: doing it a few days. Or you say, make me
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  Speaker 2: your president black men, and I will take care of you.
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  Speaker 2: On the other side of it, you vote for me
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  Speaker 2: and I got you. If you're a business owner, people
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  Speaker 2: just want something that seems fair, even if it's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: We want it to seem fair. I mean, we don't
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  Speaker 2: like it to be fair, but at the very least
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  Speaker 2: give us some kind of an impression that it's fair. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right after the break, all right, we want to quickly
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  Speaker 2: touch back on the Elon Musk thing. And to be
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  Speaker 2: clear on this, it's uh. I guess the pledge is
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  Speaker 2: to support the first and second Amendment. The Department of
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  Speaker 2: Justice has come in and said you get careful now
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  Speaker 2: you could be seen as trying to buy votes. And
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  Speaker 2: the clarification on it, I guess from Musk on his
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  Speaker 2: side is saying that he's not giving away a million
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  Speaker 2: dollars to Trump supporters or pledg he's he's, you've got
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  Speaker 2: a pledge that you're going to support the first and
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  Speaker 2: second Amendment. So I don't know, we'll see where all
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  Speaker 2: of that goes. But you know, it's interesting that they're
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  Speaker 2: worried about that, but not the promise to you know, basically,
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  Speaker 2: give twenty thousand dollars to black business owners men, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: specifically men. It's not even just that they're black, it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that black men that are business owners. So it gets
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  Speaker 2: really specific with a women need not apply. I guess.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about this idea of as a
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: trend on social media. And they basically say that there's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: the golden Retriever boyfriend and the black cat girlfriend and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that somehow they are a good, good connection. So what
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  Speaker 2: are these things mean? They say, if you are a
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  Speaker 2: black cat girlfriend, then you're mysterious, introverted and a bit
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  Speaker 2: aloof and the golden Retriever boyfriend is outgoing, friendly and
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  Speaker 2: always eager to please, and apparently together they make a quirky,
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  Speaker 2: balanced couple where opposites attract. Seems like a weird thing
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  Speaker 2: on social media to me. All right, expect more gummy
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  Speaker 2: candies in trigger treat bags this year thanks to the
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  Speaker 2: cocoa prices that are growing higher and higher, and there's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a of course constant there's been an ongoing love of
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: gummy candies, so basically the chewy, fruity sour treats that
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: millennials and gen z love chocolate treats taking a back
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: seat to those gummy candies. Chocolate still leads the sweets category.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Candy is growing, according to Sally Lyons Wyat. She's an
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: analyst at market research firm called Circana, and according to Wyatt,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: teens to adults in their mid forties more likely to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: choose gummy, fruity and sour candy over chocolate this Halloween,
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  Speaker 2: and expect to see new creations like Twizzlers, Ghosts Brocks,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: mellow cream, Autumn leaves, sour patch kids apple harvest. Oh
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. I'm all about sour apple and nerds, candy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: corn and Skittles, Shriekers popping up in the bags. If
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the thought of the presidential election coming up in less
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  Speaker 2: than two weeks is making your heart beat faster and
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: keeping you up at night, You're not alone. New survey
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  Speaker 2: from the American Psychological Association finding that sixty nine percent
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: of American adults are stressed about the election. Seventy seven
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  Speaker 2: percent of them say the future of the country is
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: their top stressor Compared to surveys conducted during the last
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: two elections, Americans are just stress just as stressed as
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: they were in twenty twenty, but much more so than
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. More than seventy percent of people say
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: they're concerned about election violence. More than half are worried
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: about the end of democracy, maybe because one of the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: candidates doing any votes to be the candidate. But amidst
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the concern our sixty percent of people who say they
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: are optimistic that positive change will come out of the election.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So interesting that we're as stressed about the election in
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four as we were in twenty twenty while
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: there was a pandemic going on. I need a little
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: help falling asleep. Maybe the sound of frying chicken will
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: help you drift off. KFC is teamed up with Hatch,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: a wellness company that creates audio devices designed to help
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: people improve their sleep, to create the Kentucky Fried Chicken
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Rain Sounds Channel, offering listeners the sound of KFC famous
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: fried chicken sizzling in the frar. The idea was born
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: earlier in the year when folks suggested that the sound
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: of chicken frying was similar to the sound of falling rain.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The soothing soundscape available now on hatch Restore to smart
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  Speaker 2: sleep devices. You can doze off also to the sound
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: of the Hatch for Sleep YouTube channel or the Hatch
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: for Sleep Spotify page. I think the sound of chicken
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: frying would probably make me a little hungry as I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: was trying to go to sleep. Finally, there's nice people
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in most places, I would think, but they say there
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: are some cities that are just basically do more to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: make visitors feel welcome than others. A recent poll conducted
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: by love Link as three thousand travelers which city has
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: the kindest and most helpful locals? And we got a
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: little Georgia love here at the top of the Think
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: about what city might qualify for this in Georgia. While
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I start a little lower on the list at number ten, Scottsdale, Arizona, Norfolk, Virginia, Charleston,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: South Carolina, Coral Springs, Florida, Madison, Wisconsin, Richmond, Virginia, Port
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  Speaker 2: Saint Lucy, Florida, Murphysboro, Tennessee, Jackson, Mississippi, and at the
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  Speaker 2: top of the list, number one, Savannah, Georgia. How about that?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you just happy to see they're just happy to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: see people coming for their ghost tours. Just happy about
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: some ghost tours. That'll do it for this Thursday edition
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