Latest / Deprogrammed Music Podcast / Duran Duran
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- 0:33It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
- 0:37band. That's right.
- 0:38We've done all the hard work for you.
- 0:40All you have to do is press play and listen.
- 0:42And you could say that I am band curious.
- 0:44My name is Justin and I like to talk to my friends about bands
- 0:48that they like and they will tell me all the reasons I
- 0:53should, the songs that I should. And in doing so, we're going to
- 0:57come out with a list to present to you so you can get into this
- 1:00band as well. And today, well, you know, we
- 1:04could go with the the good old Rio.
- 1:06But I guess really we're boys on POD today we're talking about
- 1:11Duran Duran. And I think that this one came
- 1:16to be in the in the Discord server in the finding panelist
- 1:22chat. I think I've you listed first,
- 1:25Brian, so you must have brought it up in the chat.
- 1:27So talk to me about Duran Duran. I, I brought up in the chat, I
- 1:31was, I was trying to find something to do with Gavin
- 1:35because we've both been doing shows for a while and we haven't
- 1:39done any together besides R.E.M. the the championship.
- 1:44And so I was trying to hit him on a couple things.
- 1:47But we're, we're, we're not really like on the same.
- 1:50We're not really like sync, like syncopatic over the word, you
- 1:57know, you know, I'm, you know, I'm a like an alternative metal
- 1:59and rap guy. And he's not, but we did, but he
- 2:03said he's in the new wave. And so when I was, when I was a
- 2:08little, you know, when I was a little kid.
- 2:10Well, Nah, I still only 12 years older than me.
- 2:13That hasn't changed. My aunt's only like 12 years
- 2:19older than me. She's to babysit us a lot.
- 2:22I, she's about the same age as, as, as Gavin.
- 2:24She's 55 or 56. And yeah, she, you know, like
- 2:31this is like what she listened to when she was like in high
- 2:34school. She was 1617.
- 2:35So I couldn't exactly like, pinpoint like any like, you
- 2:40know, Duran Duran song at that, at that point when I was like,
- 2:42you know, 5 or 6 years old. But, you know, it was just
- 2:48something that's always in the background.
- 2:51So, yeah, then I found out that, you know, you know, Gavin had
- 2:54been meaning to put it up for a while and then, you know, Chris,
- 3:00Chris jumped in, too. He's also of that era.
- 3:03You know, I've done a bunch with Chris with all different genres.
- 3:06Yeah, we've been all over the board.
- 3:08Yeah, we've been through it because we did twisted together.
- 3:10We're like, we're like bonded for life.
- 3:14We're never letting that one down, I don't think.
- 3:18So, yeah, so, and then, you know, I, I do like a couple of
- 3:22the radio songs and like, I wanted to get, I wanted an
- 3:26excuse to listen to it. I, I, I do have some some other
- 3:31information, but I'll, I'll get to that when I get to how I
- 3:34built my all. Right.
- 3:36So it was already eluded that you, Gavin, wanted to put them
- 3:40on the board and just never got around to it.
- 3:41So here's your excuse. Talk to me about Duran Duran.
- 3:47Yeah, thank you Justin for having me on the show again.
- 3:50Like really fun. And thanks to the other guys for
- 3:53after R.E.M I wasn't sure if anybody wanted to do any show.
- 3:57With me, I almost, I almost quit everything.
- 4:01How dare you say radio song while you're talking about this
- 4:05stuff. Anyone can listen to remote
- 4:08understand that reference. So yeah, R.E.M., it's like, I
- 4:15mean, I'm R.E.M. Duran Duran is an important
- 4:18thing for me when I was a kid for sure.
- 4:21And I still like, love all the stuff that got me young and in
- 4:24the heart. So I have a lot of love for
- 4:26Duran Duran. I saw them in April 1984.
- 4:31In at the. At the Oakland Coliseum for
- 4:34seven in the Ragged Tiger for the third album.
- 4:36When they were like, it was like Beatlemania, you know, I was, I
- 4:40was 14 years old and went with all my friends from junior high
- 4:45who were all the new wave kids. And back then, like the kids
- 4:51that were kind of weird and into different stuff you would listen
- 4:55to like hardcore, like the Dead Kennedys, Sex Pistols and all
- 5:02the new wave bands. There was no, you know, it was
- 5:05all just like weird music that you would get persecuted for.
- 5:09It wasn't really like you had to get that specific about camps
- 5:15inside the avant-garde, you know, And Duran Duran just sort
- 5:20of like immediately set up shop in your imagination when you
- 5:26were a kid. They were mythical, like right
- 5:28out of the gate. They had really accessible
- 5:31songs. But if you excavated like the
- 5:35next layer of soil or whatever, they had like a depth that
- 5:40rewarded your investigations. They were, they were sexual, you
- 5:45know, but not in like a traditionally masculine way,
- 5:49which was really attractive to the more like poetic or like
- 5:54androgynous kids like my friends, you know, they were
- 5:57fucking beautiful. They were European, they had
- 6:01great style, great hair when all of those things were totally
- 6:06impossible to figure out how to do, how to achieve, you know,
- 6:09like they just look like odds. It's like, how do you get a
- 6:12haircut like that? And how do you find clothes like
- 6:15that? Or, you know, they were
- 6:17impossibly cool. Like you couldn't get, you
- 6:20couldn't get there. You know, Simon Le Bond was like
- 6:23living the life that every kid wanted to live.
- 6:25He wrote and he wrote great lyrics.
- 6:28In the beginning, his lyrics were really, really smart and
- 6:37strange. They were like, they were all
- 6:40like secret longings and dangerous predicaments.
- 6:45And he was nostalgic but looking like to the future at same time,
- 6:51which is really cool. Their videos were super exotic.
- 6:56They're in like, Sri Lanka fucking riding elephants, you
- 6:59know, They're like in the temple ruins and they're on a yacht,
- 7:03like all in pastel suits and shit.
- 7:05And like, so much of the other music that I liked back then was
- 7:08really dark. And they were offering like a
- 7:11world of like, travel and erotic pursuit and intrigue.
- 7:17And when I got older, it wasn't until I got older that I
- 7:21realized what fucking great musicians they are.
- 7:23You know what I mean? I know back John Taylor's bass
- 7:28playing is like extraordinary. He's like functioning on some
- 7:33other mathematical level, you know, and, and I also learned
- 7:38that like, they were just kids, you know, like when they were
- 7:41making the videos to the Rio album where they're like running
- 7:45through the jungle and shit, they were all still living with
- 7:48their parents. You know, they'd never even seen
- 7:50Europe. They'd never run out of England,
- 7:52you know. And so that's like incredible,
- 7:54like the illusion that they were able to spin.
- 7:58It's this group of kids, but they had like this grand life
- 8:03and these like, and these like James Bond experiences and
- 8:07stuff. It was just all fantasy for
- 8:10them. You know, I just think they're
- 8:13like, they were incredible. I yeah, I got there's a, there's
- 8:18a lot to take from that, but we'll, we'll move it along
- 8:21because Chris, you pretty much hopped right in on this and then
- 8:26kind of took point on on putting the list together.
- 8:30And and you were, you kind of kept alluding to like just how
- 8:34much you were into them at at one point in your life.
- 8:37I've, I always loved Duran Duran, you know, listening to
- 8:42Top 40 radio growing up in the 80s and also when videos started
- 8:47coming, I didn't have MTV, but we watched Friday night videos
- 8:50like religiously in the 80s, early 80s.
- 8:53And I'll tell you what you're talking about, like sexual video
- 8:57and whatnot. When that hungry like the Wolf
- 8:59video came out, I, I was what, 11 or 12 years old And I'm sure
- 9:05I'm not alone in that awoke something the face of that woman
- 9:12through the the jungle and whatnot.
- 9:14And holy shit, yeah. I can't add really much of
- 9:19anything. Gavin was excellent in, in, in
- 9:24explaining how amazing Duran Duran is back in the 80s.
- 9:29I'm glad we did just the earlier stuff.
- 9:31I'm not as familiar with their later stuff.
- 9:36So I think this list worked out really well.
- 9:41And I it, it was a, it was a tough, it was a tough lesson,
- 9:45harder than I thought it was going to be because I remember
- 9:47listening to them. I haven't listened to them in a
- 9:49while other than a song here or there.
- 9:52So I was like, Oh well, you know, I'll pick out a few
- 9:54bangers and then everything else I'll just pick out.
- 9:57And man, it was really hard. I know I'm early in the what was
- 10:01it like to get out your list? But it was really hard to get
- 10:04get down to 20, especially since we added two songs like fucking
- 10:07yesterday. Yeah, last, because I've got
- 10:09singles. So a couple interesting points
- 10:15to like what Gavin was saying, like like just thinking about
- 10:21travel was a word you used. And I didn't even really kind of
- 10:26put that together until like you said it like that is a feeling I
- 10:31get when listening to Duran Duran.
- 10:33Like I, I think about travel. I mean, sure, one song is called
- 10:37Rio, but like, you know, I guess maybe that elicits the city, but
- 10:43like thinking about, I don't know, just something about the,
- 10:47the the way the music is makes me think worldly.
- 10:52And you know, I was never, I would never, I wouldn't call
- 10:56myself a Duran Duran fan. Like I, I was kind of, I believe
- 11:01my parents listened to them, but they weren't like they're more,
- 11:04they were more in excess, more YouTube, more R.E.M.
- 11:08Than Duran Duran and Duran Duran was like something that just
- 11:12played occasionally and you know that I was aware of the radio
- 11:20songs and they just kind of existed in my head for, you
- 11:23know, so much of my life. And when I started doing this,
- 11:29like I just realized kind of to again, to Gavin's point, like
- 11:34what good musicians they are, like sure, like some of the
- 11:38songs were, you know, are going to like live in my head forever
- 11:42just because they're fun and catchy or whatever.
- 11:45But like just some of some of the musicianship is just much
- 11:50more than maybe you would expect for what it is.
- 11:54And then rewarding was the other word that that Gavin used.
- 12:00There was layers. Like I was telling you guys just
- 12:02before we went on, I was listening to the list.
- 12:04I didn't get far into it. And I got to a song that when I
- 12:08listened to it on 1st pass and when I subsequently ended up
- 12:13cutting the song, there was a layer that I didn't hear in the
- 12:18car that I heard now in my cans. I was like, well, shit like
- 12:23that. That completely changes the song
- 12:27for me. And, you know, we'll, we'll talk
- 12:29about that like as we get come across it.
- 12:31But yeah, like rewarding is not a word you would think to kind
- 12:39of put next to Duran Duran and I, I think it's very apartment,
- 12:45especially once you start, you know, as Gavin said,
- 12:48investigating, start really kind of listening, you know, actually
- 12:53listening past, past what you know, the surface level fun this
- 12:58is. So let's talk about building a
- 13:02list for this, Brian. Yeah, we didn't have too much
- 13:08chatter going in and we, I think we turn this one around in like
- 13:112 weeks. So was this something that was
- 13:14that was easy for you this this go around, Brian?
- 13:18It turned out to be easier than I thought.
- 13:20So I was gonna so I, I mentioned before, I listened to literally
- 13:25every genre of music. I've done almost every genre on
- 13:29here. I, I said I, you know, I was in
- 13:31the rap, I was in the rock, I was in the metal pop, you know,
- 13:35R&B, do you? There's only mostly 2 genres
- 13:41that I don't really like. 1 is like death metal.
- 13:45I, I like every type of heavy metal except for death metal.
- 13:49And the other is new wave. So I don't know if it's because
- 13:57I, I, I don't know what it is. So when I was, you know, when I
- 14:00was in, you know, a kid in the 80s, I listened to like, pop,
- 14:06but not like this pop. I listened to, like, Bobby
- 14:09Brown, you know, like that was my thing.
- 14:12Like anything like New Jack swing.
- 14:14Yeah. You know, genre was that was my
- 14:17jam. You know, I was into, you know,
- 14:19you know, calling me bad and TLC and Bobby Brown and Janet
- 14:23Jackson. Like I was more in that world.
- 14:26And then, you know, like the grunge movement hit me when I
- 14:30was like 92. I was like 12 years old and I
- 14:34got sucked into a world of, you know, self loathing music.
- 14:39So anything from the 80s that was like this sounded like just
- 14:43corny, happy music to me, you know what I mean?
- 14:46Like, like, because it could be because of when?
- 14:50Because because, because grunge hit me at the right age.
- 14:57It like soured me towards anything that was happy, you
- 15:00know what I mean? Yeah, you get that, Justin, like
- 15:05anything that was happy or it just was something corny.
- 15:08And so it took me a really long time to like get myself to
- 15:12listen to like New Wave and I I actually I really, really,
- 15:19really enjoyed this. This was like, you know, this
- 15:23did this really, definitely like opened me up to like, like, you
- 15:27know, new stuff. So what I really, so I, I knew
- 15:32most of the radio songs. There were a couple songs on
- 15:36here that sounded really familiar.
- 15:38I had no idea where Duran Duran, like it was Just Dance songs,
- 15:43like like dance songs you would hear like just playing in the
- 15:45background somewhere. And the, the more I got into it,
- 15:50I'm like, there's a lot of dance music on here.
- 15:51There's a lot of 80s sounding dance music, which I used to
- 15:55listen to when I was a kid. You know, some songs like I, you
- 15:58know, like, I know it's not like new Jack swing, but you do have
- 16:02some of those beats. You have some of that like like
- 16:05the like the drum machine. Like there's, there's elements
- 16:10that I found that like, you know, like I really, really
- 16:14enjoyed. So I made my list.
- 16:17This could be totally different than how you guys did it.
- 16:20I made my list based on what would, what made me like new
- 16:28wave or, or this band. So any song that has funk that
- 16:34has that like New Jack kind of sound to it, anything that like
- 16:39has more of a rocket beat to it. Like that's what I went with
- 16:42because I thought, OK, what if there's, you know, there's got
- 16:45to be, you know, more, you know, 45 year olds out there who don't
- 16:49like this type of music. This is what you should listen
- 16:52to and this will get you into the band.
- 16:53So I, I basically just did like bare bones what we're doing
- 16:56here. But I'm coming at it probably a
- 17:00different angle than the two guys who grew up with it.
- 17:03Yeah, I think that's fair to say.
- 17:05But I mean, we'll let them speak for themselves.
- 17:07Gavin, how did it go this go around?
- 17:11Well, that was really interesting hearing Brian just
- 17:14talk and kind of cool. Like, you know, I, yeah, I think
- 17:19that in all the bands we cover and I talk about this, Justin, I
- 17:23think that there's like the like a record for everyone.
- 17:26That's why I always pride for album representation because I
- 17:29don't like crashing some record that it was some kids like entry
- 17:35into the band, you know? But yeah, Brian and I are going
- 17:40to be polar opposites. Today.
- 17:45It's going to be great. So from, from kids, I guess from
- 17:51kids who got into Duran Duran initially or kids in England who
- 17:56got into them when they were really like in the clubs as like
- 17:59a, a weird, like, you know, post punk band.
- 18:04Those first two albums are like magical.
- 18:08Everything comes together on those two records.
- 18:11Every song is like a novel, every sound is interesting.
- 18:15They're mixing genres like so fluidly, like disco, goth
- 18:21anthems, a Blade Runner future into some sound that's like new
- 18:27pop, totally new. Then it hit that third record,
- 18:33Severed in the Ragged Tiger. And.
- 18:36It kind of, for me, starts to take a dip where, you know,
- 18:40they've been on tour for years. They were exhausted.
- 18:44They were all fighting. Too much cocaine, too much
- 18:49production. The songs start to get
- 18:52difficult, too much going on with no editor.
- 18:56Nobody's telling them, like, you need to cut, you know, the eight
- 19:00different, you know, guitar, you know, tracks on this.
- 19:03You know, the pressure of being the biggest band in the world
- 19:06when you're all in your early 20s.
- 19:09Nick Rhodes was a teenager when they made the first record, you
- 19:12know, after severing the Ragged Tiger, it gets really dicey for
- 19:18me. And that's probably where Brian
- 19:20Pye picks up more, which is cool.
- 19:22I totally respect that. The drummer, Rodger Taylor, he
- 19:25leaves in 85 after severing the Ragged Tiger, and Andy Taylor,
- 19:30the guitar player, leaves the next year, both before we even
- 19:33get to Notorious. And the absence of Rodger,
- 19:37particularly the drummer, becomes a huge problem.
- 19:41Like I have a friend who I've known my whole life who's like a
- 19:44total Duran maniac. His name's Trey.
- 19:47And he was explaining to me the other day when we were talking
- 19:49about this, like what the absence of, of their drummer
- 19:53meant when he left. So I went back and listened to
- 19:56the drums, you know, all those early on, the 1st 3 records,
- 19:59they're fucked. You know, it's just a Dick.
- 20:01It's night and day. Once he leaves, it's a totally
- 20:04different deal and they become something else, which is huge.
- 20:09Everything pushed up to 11, you know, bombastic club music.
- 20:14But for me, much more obvious, less mystery, less romance, you
- 20:20know, less interesting. But in both the music and the
- 20:24lyrics, there are a few good songs I found, but not many.
- 20:30And. But there are a bunch of people
- 20:34that like all the records that we didn't cover, you know.
- 20:37Yeah. Yeah.
- 20:38Until maybe this is Part 1 or something, I should say that we.
- 20:43Championship Edition. Yeah, we, we.
- 20:47So we covered. I don't know about that, but I
- 20:51think Part 1 and Part 2 works. Yeah, I think so, yeah.
- 20:55We covered 81 through 95. We cut the Liberty Album because
- 21:01it's kind of a widely panned record by all the fans.
- 21:04Although I went back and just listened to it, I don't know
- 21:08that we needed to cut it. It doesn't sound much different
- 21:10to me than Natori is a big thing.
- 21:12I I don't really see why that one stands out as a record that
- 21:16like needs to be cut. We took three songs from the the
- 21:22cover. Album.
- 21:24Yep. Yep, we took the B side to the
- 21:27first single, the B side to planet Earth on late bar and
- 21:30then on late and in two late additions.
- 21:32I I forgot to rally, I forgot to even mention, you know, the wild
- 21:36boys in A View to a Kill from the Bond soundtrack, which were
- 21:39both non album singles in this time period, you know.
- 21:43Yeah. So my, my so sorry.
- 21:47It was easy for me. It was hard not to just take
- 21:51completely the 1st 2 records. I really, if everything is shot,
- 21:56I listen to everything all the way through.
- 21:59This was a pretty easy 1 for me. So again, we've got, so we've
- 22:05got 11 opposite, another opposite.
- 22:07You're going to have another opposite here, Chris, because
- 22:10you've said your list was super hard.
- 22:13It was, it was. I forgot, and again.
- 22:16So I haven't listened to them regularly in probably 20 years
- 22:21at least. And as I started listening, I
- 22:25forgot how much I loved. Especially like Gavin said,
- 22:28those earlier records are so fucking good.
- 22:32I did find some tracks on the later records that I enjoyed
- 22:37because they're so different from the early stuff and similar
- 22:42to some other things, which I'll talk about when we get to this,
- 22:44those tracks that I picked. But yeah, it was it was hard to
- 22:50cut it down to 20 because there's a lot of great music on
- 22:55these records. And one of the things I loved
- 22:57about Duran is they were because I was a weird kid and I like a
- 23:02lot of different stuff. You know, they were on the
- 23:04radio, they were Top 40, but they were different than so much
- 23:08on the pop music of the 80s. Another, that's why I love like
- 23:18Texans midnight runners, you know, vastly different sound
- 23:21than all the other stuff that was in the Top 40, like, you
- 23:26know, Genesis and, you know, the Bengals and stuff like that.
- 23:31So I I like that stuff too, but I always steered towards the
- 23:36stuff that that caught my ear as being elevated and different
- 23:42than everything else that you're hearing, which is one of the
- 23:46reasons I really, really wanted to do it.
- 23:50So yeah, it was tough getting down to 20.
- 23:52I just while we were recording the opening, I made another
- 23:57chance because I remembered the song.
- 24:01I'm like, oh, I have to include this song because of this
- 24:04weasel, which again, I'll get to, but I'll bring it up and
- 24:08probably nobody else has. It wasn't torture, but it wasn't
- 24:16like a breeze. I my, my explanation would be
- 24:23eerily similar to Gavin's, you know, minus, minus the
- 24:27relationship to the band. I really, really locked in on
- 24:35the 1st 2 records. Like really, really locked in.
- 24:39And by that third record I was like OK, all right.
- 24:43And then I does it go notorious next I think.
- 24:48Yeah. And I think you, you nailed it
- 24:51with interesting, like the, the lack of interest on, on big
- 24:57thing and notorious really hit me and it kind of took me out of
- 25:04like the driving force of what I was what I, you know, what was
- 25:09getting me through this playlist And, you know, didn't make it a
- 25:13chore, but it, it didn't, I didn't not like it, but it was,
- 25:17it definitely felt like less whimsical, less, less about
- 25:22travel, less about, you know, less interesting, like just less
- 25:28intriguing to the ear. It, it, it didn't invite me in
- 25:30in the same way. And I don't think I, I tracked
- 25:34that purposefully, but I, I think it, it bound out when you
- 25:38look at my list, like that's what happened.
- 25:41And, you know, like, I had a decent amount from everything,
- 25:45'cause, you know, I'm, I'm, I was trying to represent
- 25:48everything. And as I'm going back through,
- 25:50like, you know, just those two records just didn't, just didn't
- 25:55do it for me as far as what's going to make me want to really
- 26:00come back to this band at a later point.
- 26:03And then, you know, we had those those two late add add insurance
- 26:08and you know, who knows, maybe one of those was a shoo in the
- 26:12second we brought it up, who knows?
- 26:15Maybe reasons? We'll get into that.
- 26:20So I don't know Rio is one of those records.
- 26:23I'm sorry to go ahead. There's there's everyone's got
- 26:28like a dozen to 20 records where it's like this is a perfect
- 26:32record from track 1 to the and Rio is one of those records
- 26:37that's it's damn near perfect every, every strike.
- 26:42It's such a good record. I forgot how good that entire
- 26:46record was until I went through this quit.
- 26:47That's right. Yeah, I think I've got like 6
- 26:51from that. So all right, I look, I mean,
- 26:59you know, judging by the way we're talking, it seems like
- 27:02it's possible that there's like those those home runs and that's
- 27:05it. And we're all kind of, you know,
- 27:08dancing, dancing elsewhere. What do you think, Brian?
- 27:10Like for the final say, how many do you think we get through?
- 27:15I still think there's plenty of home runs.
- 27:17I didn't. I didn't write down.
- 27:19I didn't write down which album goes to which song.
- 27:21So I have my wrist here, but I'm not positive that like which
- 27:26ones are on which album because I didn't write that down.
- 27:29So though I'm actually not sure what my album representation is
- 27:35here, except for like obvious ones.
- 27:38I I think there's still enough home runs.
- 27:41Like I I, I I love my list. Like I, I, I would say we have
- 27:4720 come on like, but I'm going to, I'm just going to go in the,
- 27:51I'm just going to say 5. Five.
- 27:53OK, yeah, nice, nice. And in the middle, What do you
- 27:56think, Gavin? Yeah, even even if we are on
- 28:01opposite ends, I think that there's a lot of crossover in
- 28:04the middle. I think we'll get 7.
- 28:06I like it. It's fun.
- 28:08I like it. I was, I was actually thinking
- 28:11about 7:00 because I mean, there's there's easily 7 or 8
- 28:15records songs that are like, how can you not?
- 28:18How can you not? I don't want to go 8 because
- 28:21that's insanity. Yes.
- 28:25So I'm going to go 6. All right, split the difference
- 28:28there. All right.
- 28:29Well, I mean, if 8 is going to be insanity, I might as well be
- 28:32the insane one. I'll go eat.
- 28:36I mean, you never know, right? Like.
- 28:38You never know. You never know.
- 28:40I I do want to add that the radio songs that I had heard
- 28:48prior, I loved this go round like kind of to like that
- 28:54everything we've been talking about, like, like how rewarding
- 28:59it is and how much more layered it is.
- 29:02Like I never paid. I always just kind of paid
- 29:05attention to the catchiness and hearing them This time I'm like,
- 29:09oh, this is like a way better song than just how catchy it is.
- 29:13So I I. Feel like there's there's
- 29:16there's 10 singles on here where it's like, yeah, we all should.
- 29:20Have played this, yeah, yeah. And I mean, coming out with a
- 29:22best of is not a bad thing for this if that's what ends up
- 29:26happening especially. Because.
- 29:28Like I said, there's, I think there's a couple of radio songs
- 29:31on here besides, like the, like, the, you know, 4, like obvious
- 29:34ones that like everyone knows are Duran Duran.
- 29:37Like there were a couple songs on here that sounded so familiar
- 29:39to me. And like I said, I just, I had
- 29:41no idea, like, who even sang just on the, like, you know,
- 29:45background 80s music, you know? Yeah.
- 29:47Yeah, I swear to God, if you keep saying radio song, I swear
- 29:52to God, I swear to God I'm going to.
- 29:54Read that, I listened. I listened to that yesterday and
- 29:58then I I'm. Too good fucking song.
- 30:01I listened to it on my way to play softball on Monday night
- 30:04just to get myself pumped up because I'm like, it's I listen
- 30:09to that and one of these songs we'll get to.
- 30:12This all right so we're going to take a quick pause and when we
- 30:14come back back we go and play the game Jack it's the
- 30:17programmed. And with that, the name of the
- 30:27game is deprogrammed. The four of us have come through
- 30:29a selection of the Duran Duran discography and plucked out 20
- 30:33songs that are now going to mash together in an attempt to create
- 30:35a top ten sort of kit for you, in case you have never given
- 30:39Duran Duran the time of day. And you know, I've been mulling,
- 30:43yeah, I know I've been mulling this one over.
- 30:45And I'm not going to do the thing this time, but I am going
- 30:48to do something that's sort of like the thing.
- 30:51One of the songs that that I came across, I'd already known
- 30:55it, but like, it's just much more interesting than I ever
- 31:00gave it credit for. It's already come up several
- 31:02times. The video for it.
- 31:04Hungry Like the Wolf? Yeah, yeah, I got it.
- 31:09Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you got to
- 31:13start obvious, sure, but also you got to start obvious.
- 31:18Yeah. That's a fantastic song.
- 31:21I just love the guitars and like I didn't again, like there's
- 31:27like AI don't even know what it is going on underneath it.
- 31:32I was like, what? I never heard that before.
- 31:36And you know, and then you know, on top, on top of all of that,
- 31:40it has that catchiness that I I have remembered and known this
- 31:43song my whole life. So like it has that immediacy of
- 31:48the catchiness that you can come back to later in life and be
- 31:52like, oh, wait, this is just this is just a good song past
- 31:55that. So all right, boom, one down
- 32:01hungry, like the wolf is in. And Brian, where do you want to
- 32:03go? Yeah, I watch.
- 32:08I hit an early album. Like I said, I didn't.
- 32:10I didn't write the albums down. So I'm gonna go with one that I
- 32:13know is an early album because I believe it's the first album,
- 32:18first track Girls on Film. Yeah, man.
- 32:21Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 32:25That's crazy. Yeah, I think that song is like,
- 32:33you know, it's 1981 and they're kind of like, I mean, if you've
- 32:36seen the video and everything, the video is really great.
- 32:39If you haven't seen it, there's a there's like AR rated version
- 32:45too of the of that video. It's weird how that video kind
- 32:50of predicts like the 80s, like the like the excess and the
- 32:57glamour and the model, the supermodels, but but but like
- 33:01the hollowness of it and like the exploitation of it and
- 33:05feeling empty and being exploited.
- 33:09Like all that's in there. They're predicting the 80s that
- 33:12they are creating, like Duran Duran, one of the principal
- 33:16architects of the 80s. They're going to create that
- 33:19whole thing. And they're already talking
- 33:22about the hangover at the end of the party for people.
- 33:25You know what I mean? It's a it's an incredible song.
- 33:28Yeah. Love it All right, No pressure.
- 33:32Gavin 2 for two. Oh yeah, I'm going to take a
- 33:35deep cut. Or I guess it's with.
- 33:37Actually it was, I think it was a single.
- 33:39Do you guys have careless memories off the first album?
- 33:42Oh. Word.
- 33:44Yes, I did. Yes.
- 33:46That's all. Got just fucking cut.
- 33:50Oh no. 3. Yeah, we'll take that 3.
- 33:54That was one. I was looking at 2 drop for
- 33:57something else, so I'm glad I didn't.
- 34:00Nice. But we'll take that three.
- 34:01That's good. All right, Chris.
- 34:06All right, well, let's see if we can get one in the bin.
- 34:08And this is the song that I I cut that song to bring back
- 34:12because I remembered the first time I heard this song, I
- 34:15thought it was sparks. It sounds so much like sparks.
- 34:21All she wants is. No.
- 34:27Big. Thing.
- 34:28No, I don't. I figured it's going to go in
- 34:30the bin. It sounds so much like Sparks.
- 34:34Yeah, when it came out, I was such a big Sparks.
- 34:38That's that song. Still I am now.
- 34:41But back then also, and when this song started, I'm like, is
- 34:45this a fucking Sparks single? Like, no, it's Duran Duran.
- 34:51All right. All right, that's cool.
- 34:53I'm I'm, I'm happy to be in the bin.
- 34:56I'm sorry that I've ruined a a unanimous support.
- 35:01Don't worry, I'll be in the bin. But it was such, it's gave me
- 35:05such big Sparks vibe and I love Sparks so much.
- 35:08I'm like, you know what? I have to bring this song back.
- 35:10I have to bring it. Back.
- 35:17There's a couple like that. Feels like, you know, I should
- 35:23do next, but I'm going to take a swing here.
- 35:27How about save a prayer? You do.
- 35:31Oh yeah. Let's breakdown.
- 35:33I don't have it. All right, I'll take that 3.
- 35:37I love that song, so beautiful. Yeah.
- 35:40You know, not to beat, you know, a dead horse or sound like a
- 35:45broken record, but Rio, like I really could have taken that
- 35:49whole record. It's.
- 35:50A great record, yeah. Yeah.
- 35:55All right, Brian. All right, I mean, I can just go
- 35:59out there and do one that's going to be a one, but I really
- 36:03liked it. This one I marked because it
- 36:08this is like the the the one song.
- 36:11Well, a couple of them did that that had that that beat that
- 36:14reminded me of like, you know, like the 80s new Jack.
- 36:19I just listened to I Don't Want Your Love.
- 36:23Oh, really? Yeah, No, I didn't.
- 36:26Have how to. That's a good song.
- 36:29It is. And again, this is one of those
- 36:31bands where I don't think there's any of these songs that
- 36:34are bad. Yeah, there's none of these
- 36:36songs that I listened to. I was like, Oh no, this songs,
- 36:41they're all good. All right.
- 36:44Summer gooder than others. Yeah.
- 36:48All right, Gavin. So when I was a kid, there was
- 36:53there was like a video album that was put out by Duran Duran.
- 36:58I think it was put out in England.
- 37:01And it and it had a couple like R rated versions of their
- 37:06videos. And it was kind of like mythical
- 37:08because, you know, you couldn't get it.
- 37:10There was no Internet, right? Like you were little kids.
- 37:14So it's like you really wanted to see it, you know, and people
- 37:18were talking about it. And one of the other R rated
- 37:21videos on it was a closing track to Rio called The Chauffeur,
- 37:30which is I'm taking and that's a great song and a great video you
- 37:35guys have heard. I don't.
- 37:38I I, I don't. I'm sorry.
- 37:39No, sorry, Gavin. I actually no problem.
- 37:42Yeah, this that's one that came up a lot.
- 37:45And, you know, a look, you know, broken record and all that, but
- 37:50also, like, I wanted to go back and give it a chance, but who
- 37:53wants to, you know, who wants to make more work for themselves
- 37:57with this, not this silly show. So.
- 38:00All right, Chris. All right, let's get another one
- 38:03in the bin because it's it's one of the cover songs and this is
- 38:08the other song that I played like if I got to get myself
- 38:11pumped the fuck up or something. I play this song.
- 38:13It's so fucking good. The original is amazing and
- 38:17their version of it is amazing. White lines.
- 38:21It's so fucking. I don't have it, no.
- 38:25No. I don't have it, but they still
- 38:29play it in concert. People go crazy.
- 38:31Oh fucking God, that song. Oh my God, I'll.
- 38:36Say. I figured it would be.
- 38:39I only threw it in there so I could keep it on my list and
- 38:42then throw it a little bit. I'll say this.
- 38:45Yeah, like I, I gave a lot of consideration to the covers.
- 38:50A lot more consideration than you would probably think,
- 38:53considering everyone thinks they know me.
- 38:57Right. How would I go?
- 39:06I'm going to go to. How about the reflex?
- 39:11Oh. Yeah, yeah.
- 39:14Yeah. I didn't take the replx.
- 39:18Yeah, that's that's one of those songs that I didn't know I knew,
- 39:22like I heard it and I'm like, I freaking know this song and it's
- 39:26funky as hell, which is why I took it.
- 39:29Yeah, great song all. Right.
- 39:32So I land a three there. That's all right.
- 39:34I'll take a three. Yeah, you'll get me.
- 39:36You'll get me on anything with like a funk to it.
- 39:39I freaking love it. Yeah.
- 39:43Brian. All right, I'll go to another
- 39:48song that I didn't know what I didn't know that I knew.
- 39:53Anyone out there that? Must have been a late 1 for me.
- 40:00No, I don't have that. One, is there anyone out there?
- 40:04Anyone. No.
- 40:06Gav. No.
- 40:08You know what? So I don't.
- 40:11I cut. That was a late cut for me.
- 40:13I love that song. It's a great song.
- 40:16I must, I mean, I don't have it, but I must have.
- 40:20First album, yeah, it's a third song.
- 40:23I would have taken that whole record too.
- 40:25That's a great just. That's another great, great.
- 40:29Class record, Yeah. It's interesting, especially
- 40:32finding out that they were kids when this happened.
- 40:35Yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize.
- 40:37That that they came out and knew exactly what they were like.
- 40:40I'm always impressed when when that happens, when a band knows
- 40:44exactly what they're going to be like right from the get.
- 40:48All right, Gavin. So if you go to the they call it
- 41:00the wedding album, it's called Duran Duran.
- 41:03I think it's self-titled again. I.
- 41:05Need you. That's when they get Warren
- 41:10Cucarillo in the band, who was like a guitarist for Frank Zappa
- 41:17and he, he, he founded Missing Persons.
- 41:20Yep, that band with Terry Terry, Dale Baggio and Terry Buzzio.
- 41:25And he helped, he may have written the he helped write 2
- 41:30really great singles on that record.
- 41:32That was kind of a comeback for Duran Duran in 93.
- 41:36Yep. And I love them both and I'm
- 41:39going to take one of them right now.
- 41:40It's called Come Undone. Oh.
- 41:43I got it, yes. I don't.
- 41:46I'm sorry. That's all right.
- 41:48Yeah. There's a lot of good, a lot of
- 41:51good songs on that record. That's a really good record.
- 41:54We got a three, yeah. We got.
- 41:56I don't have that one. We'll take that three, though.
- 42:01Yeah. All right, Chris.
- 42:04All right, I'm I'm I have more songs that I'm sure are going to
- 42:07go in the bin, but I'm going to steer away from that since I've
- 42:10got two of them and go with I know Justin's got this one.
- 42:17The Wild. Of course, wild boars.
- 42:20Wild boars. It's the Bell and Dubs bit.
- 42:24Just adding. Jenny made this podcast that's
- 42:27amazing, Bell and Dubs and that was a bit.
- 42:30It's so fucking funny and I I can't believe that I forgot
- 42:33about that song until like yesterday.
- 42:37You know, I hate it. I haven't.
- 42:39I hated that song when it came out.
- 42:42I wasn't going to take it. I was like, now I'm not even
- 42:45going to go back to my list and try to knock something out.
- 42:47And I was like, let me just do it.
- 42:50Yeah. So fucking good, dude.
- 42:53It's a great. I don't love the wild boys.
- 42:58Wild boys like and it's much. It's like his.
- 43:04His vocals are so great. Simon's vocals are so clear and
- 43:08mournful that they have an acoustic like version that my
- 43:11friend Trey just sent me. And it's like it's a really
- 43:14beautiful kind of oh, and I also, I love, you know, William
- 43:20Burroughs and like the wild boys, which.
- 43:22Oh yeah, yeah. But which they are, they are
- 43:25chipping their hat to that, you know, talking about that in that
- 43:28song. That's a great song.
- 43:32I also have, I mean, if we're if we're talking about bits, so I
- 43:37ganked that bit from Greg Proops on his podcast The Smartest Man
- 43:41in the World. Yeah.
- 43:43So. He.
- 43:45Used to just read news stories and it would be about wild boars
- 43:52like, and yeah, there was a news, a news article came up
- 43:56about wild boars and he, he started singing this song only
- 44:00making it wild boars. So he'll be like all around me
- 44:06wild boars. And, you know, it just always
- 44:08stuck with me. And then, yeah, you know, how do
- 44:11you not introduce that into into, you know, the Red Dead
- 44:15version? He's.
- 44:16He's fantastic. We got to see Whose Line Is It
- 44:20live a few weeks ago and he was there.
- 44:24He was just fantastic. All right, we'll take that three
- 44:29for wild boys. Yeah, yeah.
- 44:32Three, I don't. Think I got that on my list.
- 44:34I I look. Hold on.
- 44:35It was literally added the. Song I we just added it like
- 44:39yesterday. Oh, I missed it.
- 44:40OK, all right, I'm you know what?
- 44:42I suck. I talking about something and I
- 44:46missed it. So what?
- 44:48What I do is when, when Justin or when anybody puts up the
- 44:52playlist, I make a copy of it. I I write my playlist and then I
- 44:57cut the songs like as I'm listening till I end up with 20.
- 45:01So I wouldn't have even seen that it was added my dad.
- 45:04Yeah, I just added that, Yes. So that means the view to a kill
- 45:07will also not be unanimous. All right, so we're back around
- 45:13to me though. Yeah.
- 45:17I'll put out a questionable 1 here.
- 45:19I'm not sure about this one. Nobody answered this when I
- 45:22asked threads, so this one. I feel like I'm going on a ledge
- 45:26here, but maybe not. But how about my own way?
- 45:33Yeah. I no, I don't.
- 45:36Yeah. That's a.
- 45:37Great song. I didn't take it only because I
- 45:39couldn't take everything. I love that song.
- 45:41Oh, for Rio, Yeah, yeah, no, that's a great.
- 45:45That's a great song. I don't mind that too, boys,
- 45:48though I don't think we're, I don't think we're hitting any of
- 45:51our, our marks. All right, Chris or I'm sorry,
- 45:58Brian. I'm going to just, I'm going to
- 46:02try to go for a slam dunk title track Rio.
- 46:05Yeah, I got it. Yeah, of course.
- 46:07Yeah, There we go. All right.
- 46:09Now we're back. Back on track a little and this
- 46:13is another one that, you know, I, I kind of dismissed and I
- 46:17almost left it off because I thought, Oh well, you know,
- 46:19everyone knows it. And then I listened to it.
- 46:23So it made my first pass and then when I listened to it, when
- 46:26I was going to make cuts, I was like, but, but it's Rio.
- 46:30Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought about cutting it for
- 46:33the same reasons. I'm like, no, I can't fucking
- 46:36read it. But it's a heavyweight.
- 46:38Yeah, it is. It is.
- 46:41But again, it's like one of those one like I feel like
- 46:47hungry, like the wolf does more what I was talking about about
- 46:51the like there's more underneath it.
- 46:54But like, I mean, I would not be surprised if when we get to the
- 46:58number one, we're talking about Rio or hungry like the wolf as
- 47:02as the. King.
- 47:02Absolutely. Yeah.
- 47:05Because they're just sneaky good.
- 47:10All right, Gavin. Shout out to my friend Trey.
- 47:20I'm going to take his favorite song Do you guys have friends of
- 47:23mine off the first album? No, no I don't.
- 47:32That's one of those ones that boom.
- 47:37All right, Chris. All right, let's see if we can
- 47:44get a unanimous hocker, Ragged Tiger.
- 47:47How about, Oh, there's let's go with New Moon on Monday?
- 47:55Yeah, I got it. What was that?
- 47:59Yeah, I missed. It I missed it?
- 48:00New moon on Monday. No, I love that song.
- 48:07When you, you know. All right, I should.
- 48:09Love that song. Yeah, yeah, that record was
- 48:14what, like not a perfect record, but there's 3 or 4 songs on that
- 48:18record for I I fucking love those songs.
- 48:21Yeah, yeah. All right, we went on Monday.
- 48:26And reckon y'all's list I I I tell you I generally love all 20
- 48:32of myself. Now I feel like I just have bad
- 48:35taste. No, no, no, no, no, no.
- 48:37Don't do that. Don't do.
- 48:39That that's not what it is. Nope.
- 48:42That's not what it is. All right music is relative
- 48:46music is opinions music is like what you like do not feel bad
- 48:52for liking what you like never feel bad for liking to like
- 48:56that's part of what this show is about it's.
- 48:59Cool. All right, all right.
- 49:08How about? Is there something I should
- 49:10know? Fuck this.
- 49:13Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- 49:19Justin, you're throwing out. Is there something I should
- 49:21know? Yes, yeah.
- 49:23Yeah, I have it. Yeah, right.
- 49:25Absolutely. I thought I was taking a risk on
- 49:27that one. No.
- 49:29That might be. Honestly I think that might be
- 49:32the first Duran Duran song I ever heard and love that.
- 49:35Big song in America when it came out that was a non album single
- 49:41and then they re released the first album in America and put
- 49:44it on the record. Were we unanimous on that one?
- 49:48Yeah, yes. Yeah.
- 49:51I don't love the the chorus, but please please tell me now stuff.
- 49:56But I love purses. It's so good and the guitar's so
- 49:59good in it. Yeah, yeah.
- 50:04Yeah, that's why when we switched the records to the to
- 50:07the UK release, I kept that song.
- 50:10Yeah, that's right. It's so fucking good.
- 50:14Yeah, All right. I did not.
- 50:16I didn't see that one coming. I like that.
- 50:18That's AII always love when a random.
- 50:21Really. Yeah, because I thought that
- 50:23was, I thought that was unanimous for the bullet,
- 50:25honestly. Yeah.
- 50:28So your your 5 is still in play here.
- 50:30Brian, you're up. Yeah.
- 50:32All right, all right. I'll go to an album that you
- 50:37guys kind of said you didn't like, but whatever.
- 50:40Track one. Title track Notorious.
- 50:44Yeah, yeah, I kept it. I got it.
- 50:47Oh good, I kept it. It's a good song off that
- 50:49record, yeah, yeah. It was.
- 50:52It was so. Fun.
- 50:53Yeah, I, I'll give it that. It was, it was a very late cut.
- 50:57I, I, I did not keep it, but it was, it was a later cut for me.
- 51:02It definitely made my first pass.
- 51:05Yeah. Boom boom, if for nothing else.
- 51:08This is honey for them to say that too.
- 51:11They were, they were kind of notorious, as you know, bad
- 51:15boys, partiers, you know what I mean?
- 51:16Like that song cracks me up. All right, Gavin.
- 51:26Yeah, so when they were doing when they were like writing the
- 51:30Rio album and and still touring and stuff, Don Taylor, the bass
- 51:36player was fucking up and doing tons of drugs and like not
- 51:40showing up for sound checks and practices and like he was on one
- 51:46and Simon was worried about him and like couldn't get through to
- 51:50him. So Simon wrote this poem to him,
- 51:56put it under his door in his hotel room because he couldn't
- 51:58find it. They he'd been gone.
- 52:01And and it was the words to hold back the rain, the song on Rio
- 52:05that would become the song on Rio.
- 52:08And so yeah, that song always touches me because I've had a
- 52:12lot of those issues too. And it's just sweet.
- 52:15From like 1 friend to another and the words to that song are
- 52:19really great. Did did you guys anybody take
- 52:21hold back the rain I it? No, it was just super late.
- 52:26God. I wish I would have known that
- 52:28story. Great.
- 52:29Song, but I did not keep it. Yeah, that story would have
- 52:32influenced it. Like that's, yeah.
- 52:34Those are the kind of things that I mean, there's no way I
- 52:37could have known that, you know? But yeah, and again, I would
- 52:42have kept the entire the entire album of Rio, not for well, I
- 52:47got to have songs from other records too.
- 52:49And yeah, that was one of the ones that was probably like 23
- 52:53or 24 that that was a late cut all.
- 52:59Right, Chris? All right, I'm going to see if
- 53:04Justin played the game. I kept this song.
- 53:07It's a good song, it's not one of their best and I only kept it
- 53:11because it's got my wife's name and I thought, well, maybe Jesse
- 53:14will pick it because he knows my wife's name.
- 53:16It's too late, Marlene. You know what's funny?
- 53:21Oh, you got one. I, I mean, probably like 2123.
- 53:28I did play the game. Yeah.
- 53:30I just ultimately, if I'm being honest, I think it may have made
- 53:33my initial 20 and I bumped it off when we added those two
- 53:36songs in yesterday. So did anybody else have it?
- 53:43I did. I'm sorry.
- 53:43Yeah, Brian, you did excellent. Yeah, so she do.
- 53:46Oh, yeah. All right.
- 53:47So it's two. Yeah.
- 53:49My wife's name is Marlene. It's a good song, but it's also
- 53:52my wife's name is it is in it. So I'm like, you know what, I'm
- 53:56going to, I'm going to game play a little bit.
- 53:58I'm going to keep this one song. I could have cut it.
- 54:01I could have cut it for any of the other songs where it's like
- 54:04they would have been unanimous. I got to play this fucking game.
- 54:07So I kept I kept my wife, kept my wife's name on my list.
- 54:12That's right. All right.
- 54:14So we're back around to me. I've got like 9 left still.
- 54:17So like, I mean, even though it feels unlikely, all of us are
- 54:22still in play here. No, there's, there's more,
- 54:25there's more. Unanimous from here.
- 54:27Oh yeah. Yeah, I have 8:00 left.
- 54:35All right, this one's already been cracked up, and so let's
- 54:38let's try this one. How about ordinary world?
- 54:40Oh. Yeah, yes.
- 54:43Yes. Hey, there we go.
- 54:46Yeah, yeah. That's the one I was going to
- 54:48play next. So this is actually like, you
- 54:51know, even going back to like the 90s where you know, like I,
- 54:55I kind of like rediscovered who Duran Duran was because, you
- 54:58know, they they had their thing. It's funny because I used to
- 55:01call this my favorite Cure song. Is that like guitar?
- 55:07That Spacey guitar is just so beautiful and so Cure esque
- 55:13that. I'm like.
- 55:14Yeah, no. Absolutely, I see that.
- 55:19Yeah, man, like when Gavin said earlier, like like a return for
- 55:26them, but it it it sounds different.
- 55:31It sounds different. Like it's I think it's when when
- 55:34I really break down, you know what happens here?
- 55:38Why I'm tapping out at notorious and big thing.
- 55:41It's what they delivered on what the the second self-titled the
- 55:48the wedding record. Like they got a little bit more
- 55:51interesting. They they start took some more
- 55:54chances and not obvious. Right.
- 55:59Yeah. So I think that's what kind of
- 56:01brought me back in so. Yeah, I think it was.
- 56:04It was. I mean, you know, there were a
- 56:06couple, you know, bands from the 80s still, you know, trying to,
- 56:09like, stay relevant once, once, like the 90s, like, you know,
- 56:13exploded, you know, like, into like grunge and alternative and
- 56:16like, this song broke through. This was played on MTV just as
- 56:21much as like alive or, you know, plush.
- 56:25Like it was played right along with all those songs and you
- 56:30didn't miss a beat. Like it, it was, it was, it was,
- 56:33it was really, really well done to like stay relevant or
- 56:39recreate their relevance. Yeah.
- 56:41Agree and and doing that without without completely caving to
- 56:46trying to sound like the the rest of yeah they weren't.
- 56:51Trying to. Sound right, Like when Mötley
- 56:55Crüe, Yeah, Mötley Crüe put out a grunge record and, well, I
- 57:00mean, it's a good grunge record, but it's Mötley Crüe.
- 57:04And it's like, you know, don't I don't nobody wants a grunge
- 57:08record from Mötley Crüe. Don't you know, make a Mötley
- 57:11Crüe? I never got into the grunge at
- 57:14all. None of them.
- 57:15Well, you know, it was targeted at me and Brian to be.
- 57:20Fair, yeah, targeted at like angry 13 year olds.
- 57:23Yeah, yeah. So all right.
- 57:27And just like, actually the grunge man, I'm sorry, Justin.
- 57:31Go ahead, you were saying, going to say flannel.
- 57:33The The grunge movement pissed me off because I grew up in the
- 57:36mountains of upstate New York. I I wore flannel.
- 57:40All the. Time.
- 57:42And then in the 90s, I'm still wearing flannel and everyone's
- 57:45like, oh, you like Nirvana? Like, no, I like being warm.
- 57:50I wear flannel. Flannel just got more expensive.
- 57:55Yeah, yeah, totally. All right.
- 58:00So that was me. So, Brian all.
- 58:03Right. Well, I was going to play too
- 58:05late for Marlene and then I was going to play or, so I'm just
- 58:12going to go somewhere. How about planet Earth?
- 58:15Oh yeah. Oh, no, I'm sorry.
- 58:18Love that. Oh yeah.
- 58:19Great fucking song too. That was one of the songs that I
- 58:23was going to try to make space for, like that I was listening
- 58:26to right before we went on and like I heard a layer that I
- 58:30didn't hear initially and I was like, that changes the song for
- 58:33me. Yeah, that's her first single.
- 58:36I love it so much. Such a good song.
- 58:39It's an answer we. Got to get, we got to get one
- 58:42more for because I, I, I don't know if I want this.
- 58:48We might. We might you guys are going to
- 58:50end up with like I don't want your love on this list.
- 58:55I I we got planet earth a lot on on threads when I asked threads
- 59:03so. Yeah, yeah, it's a great song.
- 59:06Great song. All right, Gavin.
- 59:10Well, I put the B side to planet Earth called the Late Bar, which
- 59:14I really love. It's kind of a fan favorite for
- 59:17old fans and Duran Duran. Do you guys have Late Bar?
- 59:20I don't, I'm sorry. I do not.
- 59:22I don't. Into the bin, yeah.
- 59:30Into the bin I. Got that.
- 59:32Might be a four. I'm getting killed.
- 59:34I got a bunch of beers. I mean, I know, I know.
- 59:39A view to a thrill won't be a four.
- 59:44Shit, what do we got? How about you doing the snake?
- 59:49Yes, yes. Oh yeah, I hate, I hate to be
- 59:54the the audience out there. Yeah, I don't.
- 59:57Oh, no, no. I thought you had it.
- 1:00:00OK. Oh.
- 1:00:02That's another one that that I got an answer for a lot and I
- 1:00:05just didn't get a chance to kind of go back and that makes.
- 1:00:08Space. That's one where I thought that
- 1:00:09I thought that one would be a Ford.
- 1:00:14We got a lot of threes here. I don't know.
- 1:00:17I don't think we're going to get another 4 now.
- 1:00:19I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:00:21Yeah. All right, well, let's find out.
- 1:00:26I think my best shot at it is this song.
- 1:00:29Let's find out. How about new religion?
- 1:00:33Yes. Yes.
- 1:00:36No, it starts. It is a great song.
- 1:00:42Yeah, but I did not, I did not keep it.
- 1:00:44Yeah, yeah, all good. That's funny because I was
- 1:00:48thinking that same thing just. And I was like, that's my only
- 1:00:51chance for a unanimous right there.
- 1:00:54Yeah, that one came up a lot and it's one of one of the ones that
- 1:00:58I enjoyed, so yeah. I got a couple more off the
- 1:01:03wedding album that might make another.
- 1:01:05We'll say, we'll say. Yeah, same all.
- 1:01:07Right, Brian. All right, I'll go.
- 1:01:10I'll go to the wedding album then.
- 1:01:13Also, I, I I have a lot of respect for for bands that have
- 1:01:18two self-titled albums. Self-titled Yeah yeah.
- 1:01:25How about? Too much information, Fuck.
- 1:01:28Yeah. No, no.
- 1:01:34That's a great song. That's a first passer, yeah.
- 1:01:38Yeah. All right, Kevin.
- 1:01:44Kevin I took the the closer on the first album, the
- 1:01:49instrumental Tel Aviv. Yeah, I got it.
- 1:01:53Really. Yeah, you kept an instrumental,
- 1:01:55Justin. Yeah, I didn't think anybody
- 1:01:58would have that. I don't have it I.
- 1:02:00I only cut it because it's an instrument.
- 1:02:03No, they there's. The only reason?
- 1:02:05That's the only reason. There is a great version of it
- 1:02:10with all lyrics and Simon doing vocals and they're so great and
- 1:02:15I do not know what to cut out the vocals and lyrics.
- 1:02:19It's still great as an instrumental, but there's
- 1:02:23another really interesting version of that song, I.
- 1:02:26Really love that song and I only cut it because there were no,
- 1:02:31that's just only reason. Yeah, Yeah.
- 1:02:34That's like what you were saying.
- 1:02:35Even as that instrumental, it feels like a travel song, you
- 1:02:37know it's exotic. That's exactly.
- 1:02:39Strange. And you're.
- 1:02:40In a weird landscape and like, so great.
- 1:02:44It's exactly, exactly it. That's exactly why I kept it it.
- 1:02:48It definitely fit. Fit the motif.
- 1:02:52Yeah. All right, Chris.
- 1:02:54Fuck, I only got 3 songs left and I know that the usual kill
- 1:02:59is not unanimous so fuck. How about to the Shore?
- 1:03:05I got it. Oh.
- 1:03:07No. You mentioned that song to bring
- 1:03:10that album in. Gavin, come on.
- 1:03:12Love that song. They cut it, you know, they,
- 1:03:14they cut it off the American record.
- 1:03:16They did. They did.
- 1:03:18I just took it. I love it.
- 1:03:20I I just didn't have room for it yet.
- 1:03:24Respect though. Respect.
- 1:03:25That's a great pick. We'll take the 2, all right.
- 1:03:30I think we're at dump out territory now.
- 1:03:33Yeah, I only have 4. Left Yeah I I got 2 left.
- 1:03:37I don't, I don't see us getting out of your five, but you know,
- 1:03:41I've been surprised before. All right, I'll start here with
- 1:03:45Hold Me Off Notorious. No is.
- 1:03:49That all Nos. I do.
- 1:03:52Oh, Brian did OK. Yeah, take that too proposition.
- 1:04:01Yep, no, I'll. Take another two.
- 1:04:06That's all right by me. Moving on to Big Thing.
- 1:04:12Do you believe in shame? Oh yes, you have that one.
- 1:04:18So I have. I have 3 songs left and that was
- 1:04:21one of them. All right, I love that singer.
- 1:04:25Right. The three.
- 1:04:28I think it was a 2. OK, forgot about that song.
- 1:04:32Yeah, that's a great song. And then how?
- 1:04:35About Funky. From the wedding album Femme
- 1:04:40Fatale. Yes.
- 1:04:44No, no. Velvet Underground cover.
- 1:04:49It's really great. I.
- 1:04:51I take it up, yeah. All right.
- 1:04:55And then last but not least, a view to a kill.
- 1:04:58Oh nice. No.
- 1:05:01I didn't take it. I took one.
- 1:05:03Yeah, big song, big. You know, big song for them.
- 1:05:07Yeah, yeah, they did 2 Bond songs, didn't they?
- 1:05:12I think they just did one they kind.
- 1:05:15Of do living, Didn't they do living daylights?
- 1:05:20I don't know. I don't, I don't know, maybe.
- 1:05:24I mean, we can get our crack research crew on it.
- 1:05:28I'm going to look at it. I only got one song left.
- 1:05:30I know what it is, so I can I can research.
- 1:05:32Bobby got the robots all right, So stuff that I don't have.
- 1:05:37So we didn't hit, we didn't hit another one.
- 1:05:39That means Brian's going to hold on and win with five.
- 1:05:44You can dump out here and make this discussion a little bit
- 1:05:47more difficult, Brian. I only have two meet a
- 1:05:52presidente. That's a good song.
- 1:05:55I don't I didn't keep it, but that's a great song.
- 1:05:58OK. Oh no, it was aha that did
- 1:06:00Living Daylights. My bad.
- 1:06:03And then I, I, I knew Justin wanted to take this for two
- 1:06:07reasons. One, that's a cover, but it's a
- 1:06:09fantastic cover. A fantastic and by a great band
- 1:06:15known as Led Zeppelin. That cover of Thank you.
- 1:06:19Yeah, that is a great cover. That's why I kept it.
- 1:06:23I didn't keep it in my list, but that is a great.
- 1:06:28Cover. I don't take covers.
- 1:06:29But they they like made it their own.
- 1:06:31So yeah, they come out of it. You want to know what's
- 1:06:35hilarious though? Like that?
- 1:06:37It made my first pass like, Oh, really?
- 1:06:39Yeah. I mean, I ended up dumping it.
- 1:06:42I I'm pretty sure I ended up dumping it because I knew it was
- 1:06:44a cover. So all right, you have a chance
- 1:06:50to. I mean, I think these twos are
- 1:06:53dead in the water, but you can get a couple more in here,
- 1:06:55Gavin. I only have one left.
- 1:07:00All right. And it's another instrumental I
- 1:07:04took Tiger Tiger off 7 in the ragged.
- 1:07:07Tiger, I don't have it. That's a great song.
- 1:07:11A great, great, great song. I almost took that one because
- 1:07:17the Pumpkins did want did a song called Tiger Tiger, but it was
- 1:07:21TYGER on the Seer record, and I'd be willing to bet that, you
- 1:07:27know he drew some sort of inspiration from Duran Duran on
- 1:07:30that. Yeah.
- 1:07:33All right, Chris. And again, you want to talk
- 1:07:40about good funk UMF. Oh, that was the.
- 1:07:44Ultimate line. Talk, yeah.
- 1:07:46Great little funky song. UMF, I didn't.
- 1:07:49I didn't have it, but yeah, definitely.
- 1:07:53All right, let me shift this over and see what we got here.
- 1:07:58We we ended up with five. I mean it.
- 1:08:01Oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, it ended up being
- 1:08:04fine. It's just weird how we got
- 1:08:05there. It was like a few out of the
- 1:08:09park and then. We would have had seven or eight
- 1:08:12if I, you know, wasn't fucking around so.
- 1:08:16There were, there were, there were only three that that I
- 1:08:22didn't have that you guys all had.
- 1:08:24So there's like 3 threes that that weren't on my list so.
- 1:08:29So the five. In the bin, man, 25% of my songs
- 1:08:33went in the bin, yeah. Four.
- 1:08:36Yeah, I got four in the bin. I thought I had more than one.
- 1:08:41So the five that are already in Hungry Like the Wolf girls on
- 1:08:44film Rio. Is there something I should know
- 1:08:46in Ordinary World? We're off to a good start, so
- 1:08:49yeah. Yeah.
- 1:08:50We got 4 here that we need to to fill and then Brian will get
- 1:08:59final say here. I think I have wild boys.
- 1:09:04No, I got it. So I I definitely want to put
- 1:09:06wild boys up first, not only just because the Greg Proops
- 1:09:10thing, not only because the bell and dubs thing, but I think I
- 1:09:14know you didn't get a chance to listen to it, Brian, but I do
- 1:09:17think it is a really great song and it deserves to be on this
- 1:09:23list. I.
- 1:09:24Agree. I agree with.
- 1:09:25You. I didn't.
- 1:09:26You know. I don't know it.
- 1:09:30All right, well. I will, I will trust all the
- 1:09:33y'all's judgement. All right, so we'll move that
- 1:09:37one over. And since Brian has final say,
- 1:09:41we'll, we'll jump over to Gavin. Let me run down these threes for
- 1:09:45you. Careless memories save a prayer.
- 1:09:47The reflex come undone. New moon on Monday.
- 1:09:50Notorious union of the snake and new religion.
- 1:09:55Is there one that's jumping out of you, Gavin, that you feel
- 1:09:57like at this point we kind of need to take it?
- 1:10:00Yeah, 123456 out of the threes. I mean, there's a bunch of good
- 1:10:09ones that you kind of need in there for my own like personal,
- 1:10:19you know, story or whatever. I think you got to have save a
- 1:10:22prayer in there even though that other song off.
- 1:10:25Rio All right. I mean, unless, I mean, you were
- 1:10:32the odd man out there, Brian, unless you really want to.
- 1:10:36No, he's that that story really like that story really hits me.
- 1:10:41Like I really that that I mean, you know, like I know other
- 1:10:44bands that have have done that, you know, when they wrote a
- 1:10:47song, like, you know, Progen has a song called Save You that
- 1:10:52that, that, you know, Eddie wrote for their guitarist
- 1:10:55because, you know, he had ongoing like alcohol addictions
- 1:10:59And like, yeah, I know that that that like that, that that kind
- 1:11:03of hits me. Yeah, take that then.
- 1:11:08And Chris, same question to you. There are three that's jumping
- 1:11:11out at you. Reflex was 3.
- 1:11:15Yeah. Yeah, OK.
- 1:11:17All right. We need something off Ragataga.
- 1:11:21You need something off Ragataga. So we got Reflex, we got Union
- 1:11:25of the State, we got a new moon on Monday, and I love all three
- 1:11:34of those songs. I got to go with New Moon on
- 1:11:37Monday. Yes, as top of those 3.
- 1:11:40New Moon on Monday. Yeah.
- 1:11:43Reflex is great. It was a big radio hit for him.
- 1:11:47You did the snake. Same thing.
- 1:11:48Big radio hit Newman on Monday, though.
- 1:11:51I think it's the Best Song of those three.
- 1:11:52And we got to have something off rackets.
- 1:11:55We got it. I'm for it.
- 1:11:57I had it. So again, I mean, this is we're
- 1:12:00asking a lot of concessions of you, Brian, but I think at this
- 1:12:03point you're OK with that. I mean, I don't want to speak
- 1:12:06for you. Yeah, I mean, we're these are
- 1:12:09all the threes that I didn't, that I didn't have.
- 1:12:12All right, so does that take us up to 8?
- 1:12:15Since I ruined your guys list. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:12:19I did it with me, with my stupid bullshit so.
- 1:12:23All right, so that brings us up to 8.
- 1:12:25So now we've got one more spot before Brian's final say.
- 1:12:32So this let's see what we've got it broken down into.
- 1:12:37Do you want me to tell? You like where I'm leaning to
- 1:12:40help you guys or? Yeah, yeah, sure.
- 1:12:45Right now I'm leaning towards careless memories.
- 1:12:50Sure. And, and it's funny because
- 1:12:52Chris mentioned that he wants something like like the reflex
- 1:12:55or, you know, the snake. I was actually looking at those
- 1:12:58two too. But right now I'm I'm looking at
- 1:13:00like careless memories or or actually pulling up too late for
- 1:13:06Marlene because I really like that.
- 1:13:08That's. A2.
- 1:13:10That's a 2. Not because it's got my wife's
- 1:13:12name in it. Yeah, that's not really in your
- 1:13:14conversation, but I so just so you know.
- 1:13:17Well, yeah, the final say is, is whatever you want to do though,
- 1:13:20so. Yeah, that's not in your, it's
- 1:13:22not in your current conversation of threes, right.
- 1:13:26But you know, but yeah, curious memories.
- 1:13:28As far as the threes, that's where I'm like looking hard.
- 1:13:31So we can either force Brian to, you know, make a choice, or he's
- 1:13:38offering up a three that he's leaning towards.
- 1:13:41We can go ahead and take that as #9 and then just give him his
- 1:13:44final say. What do you think, Kevin?
- 1:13:46Is there something else jumping out of you other than careless
- 1:13:48memories? Yeah, I love Careless Memories
- 1:13:52and I like it better than the song I'm going to suggest.
- 1:13:58Interesting. Or or like album representation
- 1:14:06and sound representation cover what they were doing.
- 1:14:11Maybe we take Notorious. Notorious.
- 1:14:14Yeah, that's where I was leaning.
- 1:14:17That's the only song I took off that record.
- 1:14:19Me too. And I only took it because
- 1:14:25because we needed something off that record.
- 1:14:28It's really not a great. I mean, the songs are fine.
- 1:14:32They're fine, but compared to everything else, that record is
- 1:14:37not great. Agreeable, right?
- 1:14:40And Notorious is probably the Best Song off that.
- 1:14:44Record. I agree.
- 1:14:44Yeah. I, you know, I was the admin out
- 1:14:47there. I was, it was late.
- 1:14:50It was a late one for me. And I mean, of course I know it
- 1:14:54from, you know, it got sampled by, you know, we don't, we don't
- 1:14:57talk about Diddy anymore, but it was sampled by him for
- 1:15:01Notorious. Really.
- 1:15:02Yeah. Notorious that that part.
- 1:15:06Like, yeah, I'm pretty sure. I can't imagine who else it
- 1:15:12would be for. That's right.
- 1:15:14That's ringing a bell. I mean, for the sake of album
- 1:15:19representation, even though it does feel silly to to knowingly
- 1:15:23say, you know, we like, we like songs better.
- 1:15:29We think they're better. But I mean, to Gavin's point,
- 1:15:32before, you never know, you know, this could be that song,
- 1:15:36could be the one that opens the door for somebody for this band.
- 1:15:38Yeah, like that record might be somebody's like, Oh my God, I
- 1:15:41love this record. Right.
- 1:15:43And we're all just like, fuck that record.
- 1:15:45Yeah, yeah, I think I'm on board for let's grab notorious as our
- 1:15:51#9 give us a little representation here.
- 1:15:55Sure. And then leave it to Brian.
- 1:15:58The floor is yours. I I I also think because we
- 1:16:03don't have anything off big thing, I think I'm going to go
- 1:16:07with too late, too late Marlene boom we.
- 1:16:11Don't have anything off big thing really.
- 1:16:14Yeah. Yeah, oh man.
- 1:16:17I mean, yeah. It's a good song.
- 1:16:19And I like that record. It's a good record.
- 1:16:23All right, so boom, final say is too late, Marlene and type that
- 1:16:30in and then we'll run this down one last go and then we'll crank
- 1:16:33up the heat a little. All right, so we got hungry like
- 1:16:36the wolf girls on film. Rio, is there something I should
- 1:16:39know? Ordinary world, the wild boys
- 1:16:41save a prayer. New moon on Monday.
- 1:16:43Notorious too late. Marlene rounds out our ten.
- 1:16:47I read those 10 to you, Brian, And which one jumps out is the
- 1:16:51number one? Hungry like the wolf?
- 1:16:57Yeah, I, I think, I think there's really only two answers
- 1:17:01here, right, Gavin, I mean. Yeah, or possibly girls on.
- 1:17:05Film, but yeah. Yeah.
- 1:17:06Yeah. All right.
- 1:17:07There's 3 answers. There's 3 answers, Yeah.
- 1:17:11Yeah, I'm good with with Hungry Like the Wolf.
- 1:17:14It's a it's a great song. Yeah, like I don't want to be
- 1:17:17like too obvious here. Like, I don't know who's going
- 1:17:20to be doing like best of 2025, whatever, but like.
- 1:17:24Right I. Don't know if this is like, you
- 1:17:27know, like the obvious choice and, you know, we could do
- 1:17:30something absolutely insane and, you know, pick like save a
- 1:17:33prayer that nobody knows. But yeah, it's it's, it's hungry
- 1:17:38like. It's it's either unreal like the
- 1:17:41Wolf Rio or Girls on Film. Yeah, of the two Rio tunes,
- 1:17:45Hungry like the Wolf is better. It was amazing, but I think it
- 1:17:50that one's better. Girls on Film is an amazing
- 1:17:52tune. Amazing tune.
- 1:17:56It was They're coming out the Gate song.
- 1:17:58But I yeah, I think you got it though.
- 1:18:01If we were all right, I think you got it.
- 1:18:04I agree. Well, you know, let's not
- 1:18:06belabor it then. Hungry like the wolf is, is our
- 1:18:09number one. Let's get it queued up and I'll
- 1:18:11read down this list one last go. That fucking video, Oh my God.
- 1:18:18Hungry Like the Wolf is our number one girls on film.
- 1:18:22Rio, is there something I should know?
- 1:18:23Ordinary world. The wild boys save a prayer.
- 1:18:26New moon on Monday. Notorious and too late.
- 1:18:28Marlene rounds out our 10. And with that, let's let Hungry
- 1:18:31Like the Wolf get a moment in the sun.
- 1:18:39I hate that I can't give it a real moment because.
- 1:18:44I can't hear it. Yeah, that too, but.
- 1:18:46Play it on my own earbuds. Yeah, the Internet, Spotify
- 1:18:50yells at me if, if I play the song for too long.
- 1:18:53So even though we're talking over it, it, doesn't it, it
- 1:18:56apparently does not matter that I'm all right.
- 1:18:58So we have done it. We've turned you on to Duran
- 1:19:00Duran. And don't, you know, don't take
- 1:19:04what we were saying because it Gavin made a great point.
- 1:19:08Just because we didn't necessarily like those two
- 1:19:11records doesn't mean they won't be your way into the band.
- 1:19:17I, you know, I feel like to really get what they're doing,
- 1:19:22it's the 1st 2:00. But you never know, man.
- 1:19:26Like everybody's tastes are different, bro.
- 1:19:29So just take just take that into account.
- 1:19:33Hey men, you maybe disagree with our list.
- 1:19:37Maybe you knew Duran Duran coming in here and you you only
- 1:19:41listened so you could yell at us.
- 1:19:43There's a great place to do that.
- 1:19:44Now you can go to Spotify. If that's where you're
- 1:19:46listening, you can leave a comment and I can comment back.
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- 1:20:00which the majority of you are listening on.
- 1:20:02A 5 star review goes a long way. And showing us to other people
- 1:20:07who may enjoy the show. And boy oh boy, could I help
- 1:20:10that help. It would be awesome, man.
- 1:20:13If you want to give monetarilypatreon.com/show Hi
- 1:20:16Justin is a great place to go to do that.
- 1:20:18And I'll say this, by the time this comes out, a couple of the
- 1:20:24R.E.M. Championship editions are out,
- 1:20:28but they all got dumped to the Patreon first.
- 1:20:31Like all 5 episodes came on the same day.
- 1:20:34Just saying. You also get deprogrammed before
- 1:20:36the rest of the world. You also get the conversation
- 1:20:38that we're about to have after the fact is going to hit that
- 1:20:42immediately. The occasional.
- 1:20:45Oh hi Justin, It's getting rarer and rarer these days.
- 1:20:48I'm trying to make time for it, you know?
- 1:20:50Eventually maybe songs from my new band Undercutters will make
- 1:20:53it there. If we ever actually like record
- 1:20:57like good versions of the songs, maybe.
- 1:21:00I don't know if that's something that anybody's interested in.
- 1:21:03But anyway, a dollar a month gets you in the door.
- 1:21:06It also gets you access to our Discord server.
- 1:21:11It gets you an automatic invite, and it also opens the doors to
- 1:21:14some of the private channels in our Discord server.
- 1:21:17So man, maybe you were interested in Discord server but
- 1:21:20don't want to give a dollar a month to do it.
- 1:21:22Cool. I get it man, money's tight.
- 1:21:25You can find us at legion of stupid, legion of stupid discord
- 1:21:28jump on in there. We're growing a tree, which is
- 1:21:30great. We're counting, which is fun.
- 1:21:34There's a bit channel, but please don't do bits in it.
- 1:21:37There's there's also let's see the deprogram channel where we
- 1:21:43can. You can come in and talk about
- 1:21:45the show, talk about music, whatever, but also there's a
- 1:21:47music league under that. And there's also the finding
- 1:21:52panelists, which is how this episode came to be.
- 1:21:55You can say, hey man, I'd love to talk about this band and
- 1:21:58somebody else will jump on and say, yeah, man, that would be
- 1:22:01cool. I'd love to do that as well.
- 1:22:02And that's how it how it happens.
- 1:22:04It's just that simple. So check that out.
- 1:22:08Discord, Patreon, done. We're a podcast, subscribe rate
- 1:22:12and review. Those are always to help us.
- 1:22:15Sharing is caring. The absolute best way you can
- 1:22:18help this show is by telling somebody that you listen to it.
- 1:22:20Hey, I listen to the programmed and you should too.
- 1:22:23And with that, Duran Duran. Learn them and love them people.
- 1:22:26We'll see you next week. Goodbye.
- 1:22:28I'm sorry before you close out, Justin.
- 1:22:30Oh, sure. You have to add.
- 1:22:32You can now also rate and comment on IMDb.
- 1:22:37Oh yeah, that's right, you can. The podcast is now on IMDb and
- 1:22:42I'm happy to report I went in and I added Justin and myself.
- 1:22:47I now am on IMDb as an actor. So thank you, Justin, for that
- 1:22:53fucking amazing thing. How cool is that?
- 1:22:56We are DB so we are on IDB. Yeah, IMDb.
- 1:23:01Let's not forget that. And with that, Duran Duran.
- 1:23:05Learn. Love people.
- 1:23:06We'll see you next week. Goodbye.