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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Season Two Finale · The Art of Costume Podcast

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  I don't know why. No one prior to the opening of
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  the film. Saw the dots and figure it out.
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  It was Sheree. That's so funny.
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  Like, ya dummies, it's so obvious.
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  I was like, oh yeah. And I'm adorable has a wannabe
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  recruit Williams. Spencer.
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  Merry Christmas, happy holidays. Elizabeth same to you.
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  We have not Talking in a minute, talking, we have not talked
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  added in a long time. Spoken in a moment.
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  Spencer, you, okay. It sounds like sounds like
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  finals. Got to you, right?
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  I really been in the holiday spirit, if you know what I mean.
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  Um, yeah. You all hear our voices about
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  every week and Elizabeth and I have actually not met in a
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  little while. Hello why?
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  Oh yeah, it's the same as hot outside last time.
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  Yeah, it was. Yeah, I took off.
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  I took a whole trip since the last time we spoke so did I went
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  to that? Great Outdoors.
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  Oh, that's right. That's right.
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  You did a little a little campy. Campy trip.
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  Yeah. But how are you?
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  I missed you. I missed you too.
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  I'm good. I'm you know frappe and presents
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  gettin getting things ready for the holidays.
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  Just today was my last day of watching.
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  Anything like not Christmas related.
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  So from here on out it's Christmas movies and TV shows
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  till December 26th. Yeah.
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  Mix. I'm they can't believe you
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  haven't started already. I've watched some stuff.
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  I tried to watch Wednesday as soon as possible.
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  Hmm. And that's like one of my new
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  Comfort shows. It's like it really?
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  I was like, this is excellent. Like cannot wait to talk about
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  it with you at a later date. Stay tuned.
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  Yeah, stay tuned. So I like watch that there were
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  a couple other things, I was like, okay I gotta watch this
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  guy, watch that and like, I've been slowly adding in like the
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  Christmas. I'm listening to like Christmas
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  music on it, like in the car, like, in the morning.
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  So I'm like, I'm getting there. I've been listening to Christmas
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  audiobooks and then like this week, it's like, okay, I'll
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  Christmas media all the time. I'm the opposite actually, like
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  I feel like I'm listening and watching everything, that's not
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  Christmas related. Hmm.
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  Because I Doing so may find any videos lately.
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  And then I'm getting obsessed with, you know, the content
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  after I do the interviews. Like, for example, I got to hang
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  out with Mitchell, Traverse the other day.
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  Oh yeah. And he designed the costumes for
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  George and Tammy. I've been listening to George
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  Jones and Tammy Wynette music country music that happens.
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  That's not, you know, and then I saw Eva tired last night.
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  I still need to see that. How was it?
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  Everything you hoped. It would be everything.
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  Everything it was beautiful. I cried.
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  I booked a ticket last night to see it again.
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  Okay, so very excited. But I've been listening to the
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  soundtrack like no Christmas. Music is what I'm getting and
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  listening to the beautiful sounds of Pandora.
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  Oh, okay, okay, well I'm happy for you.
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  I know that was really like a big, a big deal for you this
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  year so I'm happy. Everything worked House.
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  I hope you see it too. I do want to go see it.
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  One of the I did not. I don't think I saw the original
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  and theaters and I do regret that my so I do want to see this
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  one in theaters. Yeah.
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  And I would recommend 3D. I'm not a big 3D person but
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  like, hmm, this is built for 3D and it's just so stunning.
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  I mean it's it's almost kind of scary how like stunning and like
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  beautiful, that is actually. I want to see, I want to see if
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  they all see if they have. I wanted to go to our like, AMC,
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  Dine, In Theater, to see it. So I'll have to see if they're
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  doing 3D there. Yeah, that'd be fun.
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  Well, Elizabeth, this is a special episode because not only
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  are we going to talk about one of the greatest movies of a long
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  time but it's also our season finale.
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  Yes. The year has come to a close.
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  It's our first complete year of podcasting.
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  That's true. Because I first year it was we
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  started like in June. So a full year has gone by well,
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  year has gone by and it has been, it's been wild.
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  We've had so many like interviews and just like fun,
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  gas and fun episodes. There was like a lot of good
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  content this year and then we then we Revisited a lot of just
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  like good classic films like Priscilla, Queen of the Desert,
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  like that was, that was our ride.
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  I'd that I was happy to experience for the first time
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  that makes me happy. Oh yeah it's been a long year.
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  It's crazy to think that it feels like forever ago where we
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  did that interview with Louis cicada for nightmare alley.
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  And so long ago our very first episode was actually Spencer the
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  Princess Diana movies I forget that came out this year, right?
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  Remember with the pea soup. Green soup, that match the dress
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  and the pearls. Yes.
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  Oh my gosh. That's the end of her eating
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  eating. The pearls is like burned into
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  my memory, right? One of my favorite episodes is
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  the one that I was so against Vienna double, loving the hell
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  out. Of it was Pushing Daisies.
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  I was like, I know as soon as he's as soon as he's into it
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  like he's gonna love it and that set off our First ever kind of
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  like series theme series, which was our fairytale romance month,
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  which I loved. That was just some of our best
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  episodes. Yeah.
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  That was fun and Carnival row is coming back.
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  Finally, we have a release date. No, I know, next year, the
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  second and final season are about that at all.
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  We're gonna enjoy that second season, I'm sure.
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  Absolutely. Also, what?
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  I'm now waiting for season. Two Gilded Age.
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  Cannot wait for that. Release release date like a just
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  gonna say, the Gilded Age was one of my favorite episodes of
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  the entire year. So good, such a, such a grossly
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  underrated film series. I mean TV series, I'm actually
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  surprised HBO hasn't canceled it at the way.
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  They're canceling things, yes, so good.
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  If they that's Gilded Age, I will be coming for next.
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  So, I think they're in production right now, right?
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  They wrapped. Just the other day.
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  So it's done. But, you know, HBO that doesn't
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  mean anything with HBL. True, but I mean, they'll
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  release it. What are not?
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  I guess a third season though. Is, yeah, well, that's a crime
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  for a little fingers and toes. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  And we've had some really great guests on this year.
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  For example, when the lovely ladies of fish Netflix came on
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  for Devil Wears Prada that Twilight episode of a Visa.
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  Chloe. That is a dear favorite of mine.
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  Daniel even showed up for the Galaxy Quest episode.
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  I know, but I like that one. That was a fun one when he came
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  on for Galaxy Quest. That was just like all of our
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  interviews. I still love our Mona May
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  interview. Mmm.
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  Yeah. Ryan chanted.
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  That was excellent. Yeah that was hilarious.
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  I could I could talk to her all day long.
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  Oh yeah. Yeah.
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  Oh my gosh and my interview of Alex bovard for White Lotus.
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  And yes, Amy Paris for stranger. Things does to are very near and
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  dear. We've had a really great year.
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  We really have we really have and I think we're finishing off
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  with one of the greatest movies of this year, probably, the
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  greatest superhero movie Spencer or what did we watch this week?
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  I'm so excited to say that we watched Black Panther But kind
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  of forever. So, excited, we have been
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  planning on making this our season finale for a long time.
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  I think, before we even finished season one, we were like, well,
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  we know we're ending season 2 if what kinda forever.
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  Yeah. Because like Marvel had like put
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  out that it was going to get like like holiday end of the
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  year release date. So I was like, well obviously
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  that's what we're going to end with right, and I was like I was
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  so excited but so nervous. Because it's, like, we've been
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  waiting years for this movie. No, there's just been so much
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  speculation about it ever since sadly.
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  Chadwick Boseman died. So it was just like so much
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  anticipation it paid off it really did.
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  And, you know, Ruth Carter is one of the greatest of all time.
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  And she killed it. She exceeded all expectations.
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  Hmm. I will say that.
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  We have been working hard to have Ruth Carter on a podcast.
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  She's not here today. But she is excited to be on a
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  podcast at a later date. So we're hoping in a New Year.
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  We will have a exciting guest with us but for now is just a
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  Lizabeth and I, yes, and we are excited to talk about it.
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  Spencer. Do you want to start us off with
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  the summary? Of course, in the wake of King
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  too? Tall is Death.
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  The people wakanda must fight to protect their home from
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  intervening world powers both above and below the surface as
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  to a condensate I have to embrace their next chapter, the
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  heroes must band together to forge A New Path for their
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  beloved Kingdom. And that is what kinda forever.
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  Yes. If you have not seen black
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  panther, what kind of forever get to a movie theater, stop,
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  stop. There's going to be spoilers
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  after this. Like we like we're not talking
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  about this without spoilers and you should not invite spoilers
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  into your life for this coming from me.
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  That means a lot. I'm a big advocate of spoilers.
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  Do not believe you. Spoilers for this movie.
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  I'm seriously judging you if you haven't seen this movie
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  actually, so get to the theaters.
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  Yeah. Get to the theaters.
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  I won't judge you. I know it's a busy time of year
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  but Spencer will so get into a theater.
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  Yeah, going behind the Wardrobe. We have director Ryan, coogler
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  and costume designer. Extraordinaire Ruth ecard ER her
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  Noble works are Malcolm X for which she received her.
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  Second, Oscar nomination, Amistad for which she received
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  her second, Oscar nomination, What's Love.
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  Got to Do With It. How Stella Got Her Groove Back?
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  Dr. Dolittle 2 in Kangaroo Jack Serenity, one of my personal
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  favorites mmm-hmm off to do that at some point Sparkle.
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  The butler Selma for which she received a costume designer.
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  Shiner. Guild, nomination roots, for
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  which she got a Emmy nomination, Marshall, black panther, she got
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  an Oscar win, a costume designer, Guild award win and a
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  costume designer, Guild career Achievement Award.
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  She also designed the first season of Yellowstone.
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  She got a costume designer Guild domination for do might is my
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  name and for Coming to America to.
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  She also got a costume designer Guild award.
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  So she especially recently, she is racking up.
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  The excellent work. Yeah.
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  And even recently, she became the second costume designer, to
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  get a star on the Hollywood. Walk of Fame.
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  Yes, that was very exciting. Following Edith Head, I believe
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  so. I mean, she's the goat.
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  Yeah, that's saying something and Ruth definitely deserves it.
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  Especially after taking on this massive project.
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  Obviously it's a Marvel film. It was going to be huge and it's
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  it's the follow-up to one of their most successful films of
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  all time. So to create this 2100 costumes
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  needed for the film Ruth, told The Hollywood Reporter.
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  We had a crew in Los Angeles and Atlanta but also things were
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  being made. In New Zealand, India Paris,
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  London and New York my team and Atlanta at Tyler.
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  Perry Studios was a good 20 to 30 people doing intake aging,
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  and dying specialty. Work builds.
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  We had a floor of just Cutters and seamstresses and another
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  floor with the Taylor's then we outsourced to other companies.
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  So there's hundreds of people involved with the manufacture.
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  Sure of these costumes but it all does ultimately run through
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  me. Well intense, it's so intense
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  and she did a lot of work with like, you know, high end fashion
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  designers and it just all came together so beautifully and I
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  can't wait to jump into it. I am so excited.
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  I have been. It's been a long time of me.
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  Want to talk about these costumes.
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  So let's take a little break and we'll get into it.
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  Hello. Blogcast listeners is Elizabeth
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  Joy glass co host and producer of The Art of costume blogcast.
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  patreon. forever?
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  I am I am. Unfortunately, that means we do
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  have to start with the challahs funeral.
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  Which I'll just say this film a beautiful tribute to Chadwick
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  Boseman. I mean, it there.
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  We were all become nervous on how this would work out, and I
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  just think they did a perfectly. It was beautiful.
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  It was touching. It was sad.
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  But I don't think it could have been better.
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  Honestly, I don't think it could have they handled everything
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  beautifully and like you could just feel you could feel the
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  emotion of it and how hard it was for the whole cast and crew
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  and you know how hard it was for the fans they, you know?
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  No, they made. It kind of like a very good
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  tribute that everybody could join in right?
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  Starting with the funeral, though.
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  I mean, this was absolutely beautiful.
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  If I love it. I mean, it was joyous in a way
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  it was a celebration and home. Instead of like the typical, you
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  know, wearing all black funeral which, you know, famously, love
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  ya. But as much as I love all black
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  funeral, high alpha level all-white funeral.
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  This was beautiful. I think the, the key to a
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  fantastic funeral is a monochromatic color palette,
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  okay? Yeah, this was beautiful and
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  Ruth spoke to Vanity Fair about it.
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  Saying, we spoke with a historian African culture,
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  especially West African culture, he told us.
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  It's customary for African people of Ghana to wear white to
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  funerals. So that is kind of the, the
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  cultural reality they Is this in for wakanda to give it a very
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  grounded feel and it really did. Yeah.
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  If so good. I, I was just blown away at
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  these first like, what? Five, ten minutes, yeah, it was
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  a pretty long sequence as I appreciate because it looks like
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  there are some like variations and the white, but it's almost
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  like it's almost all like pure white and it's just like it
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  doesn't blend together though. Like, you can see Everybody
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  because they all have some different like Silhouettes and
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  different, you know, clothing styles.
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  But it allows them all to stand out while still being very
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  unified and appearance and also just say to like with you know
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  the incredible Ruth Carter. There's a very high bar that she
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  would have to surpass to, you know, kind of top what she did
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  in the first film and immediately in his film was
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  like, oh yeah. She's gonna do it because
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  there's just so much, like we talked about all the costumes
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  there so many costumes and every piece is like intricate
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  beautiful delicate and the use of textiles, the 3D printing I
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  believe I follow the one of the artists who created all the 3D
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  printed head pieces for the queen Angela Bassett.
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  I'll have to give the designer in a shout-out.
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  I'll look for that while we're talking.
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  But Oh, yeah. And she really had such like a
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  much larger role in this film also.
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  So did she re and one of the things where you're like, oh
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  like this, this is going to be good.
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  Are the earrings? She wears.
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  Yes, so good. So excellent.
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  And Ruth, spoke to Vogue about them.
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  She said, there are some Comics that have SRI as the main
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  Storyline. And she is seen with these
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  large, tusks style earrings. That inspired me to bring them
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  here because they're just so big.
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  And I found that this whole scene is very heavy for her, the
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  size of those earrings represented, the weight of the
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  seen, the weight of her emotions, the weight of the
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  responsibility on her shoulders. So they were a storytelling tool
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  for me which it's like, yeah, they You say everything about
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  Shiri in this moment right here. Yeah, I never even thought of
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  that too. But that's, that's beautiful,
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  they are so heavy and seen was Heavy, even though it was, you
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  know, a beautiful scene with all the white.
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  You could just tell how the Motions are basically dragging
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  everyone down. Yeah, and also with her funeral,
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  look, they made the hood extra-large to really cover her
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  face. It was something wrong.
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  Earth had seen in. She had seen at a runway show in
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  Rome and she told Vogue about the look.
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  She said I was just in all of the sheer fabrics and how light
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  moved through them. And these beautiful tonal
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  prints. I was determined to do the same
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  effect with the Fabrics here and let the light really shine
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  through and have an effect. Most of the time you can't put a
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  hat or a hood up because it creates Hello.
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  But in this case, it created a Luminosity that I was just
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  mesmerized by and it really did and I love they Incorporated in
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  the hood this print of four connected Hearts to represent
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  the heart-shaped herb, which I'm like that kind of is like you
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  know, a little hint to what's going to happen later on in the
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  movie. And I had kind of Forgotten,
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  just how big the hood was, because that the first couple
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  minutes of That film is just like a lot happens.
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  It's very emotional. And I'm like seeing it now.
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  I'm like wow, that the whole look really sets the tone for
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  sure. He's like entire character
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  development for this film, right.
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  It's a lot of foreshadowing happening in that Darth
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  Palpatine like it's huge and I love it.
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  Oh, it's perfect. It's perfect.
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  Also perfect. When the queen goes to the UN,
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  oh my Goodness. Oh my goodness.
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  Oh my gosh. Definitely, like top three
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  scenes for me. Especially Angela Bassett is
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  incredible and it's film. And she better get the Oscar
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  nomination for best supporting actress deserves and honestly
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  she deserves and should win, I don't believe that, you know,
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  because it's a comic book movie, she can't be capable of Wayne
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  award because she's that good in this film, she is, she
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  absolutely. Is she she brings so much
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  emotion. Listen to this role.
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  She brings so much complexity to the characters because like as
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  series mother, she's really trying to like you know, help
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  her daughter through this grief and like get them to a point
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  where they can like continue on with their lives and like to do
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  that. She shows so many different
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  kinds of emotions, but this look, this purple and gold look,
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  just it sets the tone. She wants the rest of the world
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  to understand in that moment. She doesn't show up in, like, a
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  typical like United Nations suit, they the wakandans up and
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  full fashion and I'm obsessed, especially if that headpiece,
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  which I looked it up. The designer of the headpiece is
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  actually Julia Corner. She created a lot of the 3D
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  printed wearables and this film and I just think it's just
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  brilliant. It's brilliant.
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  It's brilliant because the UN is trying to treat will condo like
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  any other nation that it deals with and she comes in and is
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  like no. We are not any other Nation, you
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  deal with. You cannot mess with what we
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  have. And this is why.
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  And I, what I really love about this look, is the necklace,
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  which Ruth talk to Vanity Fair about.
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  She said, when the design was presented to Ryan and the
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  producer, Nate more, they loved it.
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  And they were like, that's what she wears to the UN and that
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  stumped me for a minute because I was like, she's going to a
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  business meeting. Aang, but they love the idea of
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  her having this entrance as the queen of wakanda coming to speak
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  to the UN. Yeah, so they were like yes she
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  is like right out the gate. She's a queen there.
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  She's not one of these just regular politicians.
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  She is a queen defending her country.
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  Mmm. Oh man, I could watch this
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  United Nations seen over and over and over.
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  I mean you all know the purple look we're talking about because
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  it's probably burned into your memory.
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  It's that guy. Good is it is and I love even
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  like because you know it's the United Nations.
• 24:23
  It's very, you know, focused on International Affair.
• 24:26
  So everyone is dressed very modestly.
• 24:29
  Her shoulders are just out the dress like hugs hurt like it's
• 24:34
  beautifully tailored. It hugs, her figure and she's
• 24:37
  like I am not the rest of you and my nation will not be
• 24:40
  treated like the rest of yours so get over it.
• 24:44
  Oh man. And we also get that little
• 24:46
  Theme of the Dora and you know does French soldiers are believe
• 24:51
  that friends, black panther knows how to do a action scene.
• 24:56
  I mean, this film has so many good ones will talk about my
• 25:00
  favorite one later. But such a good thing.
• 25:03
  Excellent. It was excellent.
• 25:05
  Also. Excellent was and name or one
• 25:09
  man. I'm in love with this, man.
• 25:14
  Huerta blew me away. Yeah, he's an incredible actor.
• 25:18
  Be, he is just a fine, fine looking man, I loved the Moor
• 25:25
  and I was wondering how they were going to do it because, you
• 25:27
  know, no more is actually one of the oldest superhero characters,
• 25:32
  at least two Marvel. I mean, I believe he even dates
• 25:34
  before Aquaman, which is incredible.
• 25:38
  He was originally known as the Submariner.
• 25:40
  But, you know, if you know anything about the comics.
• 25:43
  I mean, he typically just wears like a little green diaper and a
• 25:46
  goal. Go and call the day.
• 25:48
  So I was so excited to see what roof did with no more.
• 25:53
  And of course, then they added in that, you know, the Mayan
• 25:56
  culture to it which is not actually how the submariners
• 26:00
  originally written. He has more of a Greek
• 26:02
  influence, I could not be happier with how they did this.
• 26:05
  Honestly, it's Flawless, it really, really was and Russa to
• 26:11
  Vogue about his. Look, the earrings are from the
• 26:15
  Mesoamerican. Mayan culture and the Aztecs
• 26:18
  were them, too, and they're called ear flares.
• 26:23
  Every Tenochtitlan wears them. The necklace around his neck,
• 26:27
  has the two-headed feathered serpent.
• 26:30
  There are other elements around the necklace that represent
• 26:33
  water. Like conch, shells and pearls.
• 26:36
  And they really went all-in for him.
• 26:40
  Yeah. And his people, his jewelry is
• 26:44
  incredibly beautiful that neck piece.
• 26:46
  Is, you know, as we as roof just said, is so good and I like the,
• 26:52
  the shorts actually for no more. You know, I'm glad it wasn't a
• 26:55
  diaper. I didn't think Ruth would do it,
• 26:57
  like, you know, but like the pattern on those green shorts
• 27:02
  are so beautiful too. And the belt, you know, it's
• 27:05
  just all Flawless, it is all Flawless.
• 27:08
  And I, what I like about, his look is like clearly all the
• 27:12
  jewelry, the belt, all of that is very, like old and ancient
• 27:15
  and stuff. He's probably had Ad for you
• 27:17
  know the hundreds of years, he's been alive conservatively but
• 27:23
  it's like clearly like the schwarzer new like you can see
• 27:28
  that like their culture has, you know, developed and modernized
• 27:32
  in their own way. And I feel like the shorts are a
• 27:34
  representation of that uh, tennis with the I love you.
• 27:39
  Yes. And condos.
• 27:43
  Don't like him so much. No, this I'll be honest, he
• 27:48
  could use some better diplomacy skills.
• 27:51
  Yeah, like he really just shows up in his like, yeah, you need
• 27:55
  to stop this immediately. No explanation of exactly who he
• 27:59
  is, who has people are just like, yeah, he very hostile
• 28:04
  right off the bat. He came off a little strong.
• 28:07
  At first, I was like we need to dial it back.
• 28:09
  Especially if you intend for us to like be allies.
• 28:12
  Well, yeah, it's like not working.
• 28:16
  And he was like, no, stop it by. Yeah, man.
• 28:21
  Very just disappeared. And they're just like like I
• 28:24
  can't believe them. They're so confused.
• 28:26
  I would be too but I love their trip to the United States.
• 28:35
  Oh man, Okoye and Sheree look so good that.
• 28:41
  I mean, this is like a Real Fashion moment.
• 28:44
  It, is it really? Is and Sherry and Grays looks to
• 28:51
  be undercover at the University. We're probably one of my
• 28:56
  favorite looks, especially the Louis Vuitton glasses with which
• 29:03
  Ruth said to Carter, were actually her personal pair.
• 29:07
  Well, she had worn them during rehearsal.
• 29:10
  And Ryan said, to Ruth Ruth, what do you think of those
• 29:15
  glasses? They are so good because sure he
• 29:18
  looks at her. Like, are you saying to me that
• 29:22
  you're wearing something undercover, they're very
• 29:24
  American to me. So he was just like, yeah, those
• 29:28
  ones like it's such a. I love it.
• 29:31
  Such a comedic moment in this what has been a very, very
• 29:34
  serious movie up to this point. It's just kind of like perfectly
• 29:38
  like perfect little light moment.
• 29:41
  Yeah, Okoye looks incredible and I love sure he's jumpsuit.
• 29:46
  I could have watched the scene forever and I felt bad that
• 29:49
  they're making fun of a goal. You because it looks so good
• 29:53
  looks so good. The sunglasses are a little a
• 29:59
  little much. There are like a lot.
• 30:02
  You looks good but not if you're undercover.
• 30:05
  Of course, he would definitely stand out.
• 30:07
  Yeah, for sure. Anyway, she's going to stand out
• 30:10
  but those, those Louis Vuitton glasses are really like, yeah,
• 30:14
  you're undercover. Okay?
• 30:17
  But also Rousseau's they're both wearing Adidas.
• 30:21
  Russa to Vogue sharise is and a purple tracksuit that we
• 30:26
  designed with Adidas and their seed program, which stands for
• 30:32
  school for exceptional, education and design ideas, are
• 30:36
  this program for black and brown girls who want to learn about
• 30:39
  the next level of sports. So we all work together on
• 30:43
  series text shoes, in these outfits.
• 30:46
  She's wearing therefore D tennis shoes.
• 30:50
  So I love that. She like worked with Adidas and
• 30:55
  this program to create such unique looks for Sherry.
• 30:59
  Yeah, I love that. You know, Ruth is a very, she
• 31:04
  has her like finger on the pulse of what's going on and she
• 31:06
  knows, you know, how to really be and inclusive.
• 31:10
  So I really glad that she gave this opportunity to the seed
• 31:13
  program. That's awesome.
• 31:15
  Yeah, I also Love, I forgot if it was the VOC article or
• 31:18
  another one, because like a lot of what they make is like
• 31:21
  prototypes and one-offs. So she said she was like I kept
• 31:25
  getting single pairs of shoes. She was like and she was like,
• 31:30
  they were great and I love them. I just kept praying that I would
• 31:33
  get the mate for the shoot because I just kept having one
• 31:36
  shoe. Man, talking about something
• 31:40
  stressful. You know what is already?
• 31:42
  Like stressful production? I'm sure.
• 31:45
  Right. Oh man, Elizabeth one of my
• 31:50
  favorite costumes. Favorite scenes, actually, it's
• 31:54
  just all my favorite part is the bridge scene where we get to
• 31:58
  see, no mores people show up and they're ready to take Riri
• 32:03
  Williams. I love nomura who is named, oars
• 32:09
  cousin and attuma. They are serious badasses, I
• 32:13
  love their costumes. I love that action.
• 32:16
  Mean it's my favorite one. It's so strong that fight
• 32:19
  between akoya and attuma. It's just this is such a good
• 32:23
  moment. It is an excellent moment and
• 32:25
  it's one Ruth. Spoke to Vogue about.
• 32:29
  She said, named Maura, she's a leader and Warrior woman.
• 32:34
  This was honoring. The lionfish, her headpiece is
• 32:37
  made to resemble, lion fish fins.
• 32:40
  Now lionfish is only about the size of your hands.
• 32:44
  So these elements we love because Larger than any line,
• 32:48
  fish would have grown it represents how they were able to
• 32:52
  Fashion their adornments not by killing any fish.
• 32:56
  But by creating the look themselves, we talked to marine
• 33:01
  biologist and ask them. What's at the bottom of the
• 33:04
  ocean. They said fish bones.
• 33:07
  Sponge-like substances Coral. So bones were a big thing
• 33:13
  because there are lots of Bones down there.
• 33:16
  R, which I was like I was a little confused by all the bones
• 33:20
  in the costumes. I was like, okay like I get like
• 33:26
  I just don't understand it. I was like, I guess it looks
• 33:29
  cool like it looks you know, kind of scary but I'm like oh
• 33:32
  that makes sense. Yeah, makes sense that there's a
• 33:35
  ton of fish bones at the bottom of the ocean.
• 33:38
  They're using. What's around them?
• 33:39
  And I think it looks so cool on the Moor and a Tuma to.
• 33:43
  I love that. He has like the hammerhead
• 33:46
  shark. He scored on his head.
• 33:48
  Oh, so good. I was thinking, I'm so glad that
• 33:51
  you read this quote. I was, I kept thinking that
• 33:54
  looks like lionfish to me, but, you know, I wasn't positive
• 33:59
  because I thought, you know what, it'd be feathers that want
• 34:01
  to be right? So I'm so glad it was lionfish.
• 34:04
  That's so cool. Yeah, it's it's gorgeous.
• 34:07
  I like, I like their costumes because like, they're very,
• 34:11
  like, kind of elegant in a way I think.
• 34:14
  Because they are like, they're not, it's not like, Heavy armor.
• 34:17
  It's very like selective of what's like, they're protecting.
• 34:22
  But like that hat also has these moments of like vibrancy, like,
• 34:26
  you know, those the lionfish, you know, resembling head peas,
• 34:31
  that just kind of like, makes it stand out from everything else.
• 34:34
  Yeah, it's so good. Such a great scene and Spencer.
• 34:40
  Are you ready to talk a little bit more about this when we come
• 34:42
  back? You know, we haven't got the
• 34:45
  good parts. We'll be right back.
• 35:04
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• 35:07
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• 36:03
  telecon, but before we do, we have a few murder costumes that
• 36:07
  we have to give their shoutouts to first.
• 36:10
  I was beyond excited to see Julia, Louis-Dreyfus, make a
• 36:14
  surprise appearance as and Tina I am a Julia Louis-Dreyfus
• 36:21
  superfan. I know that they're trying to
• 36:23
  set up, you know. Oh my gosh, what's it called?
• 36:27
  The Thunderbolts. And I'm here for it whenever you
• 36:30
  can. And she looks good in that
• 36:32
  purple. She looks so good.
• 36:36
  I did not expect her to be the ex-wife of Everett, Ross.
• 36:42
  Everett Ross, what kind of friend Everett Ross?
• 36:48
  Their whole subplot. I was just like what is
• 36:51
  happening here? Why is going on wasn't
• 36:55
  necessary? No, no.
• 36:57
  Did I love it? Yeah, she's just kind of seeming
• 37:03
  like this. Kind of like a little bit crazy
• 37:05
  ex-wife and then it's so diabolical because she's like I
• 37:09
  was spying on you the entire time.
• 37:12
  Yeah, she was doing what he expected, you know but less
• 37:17
  That's a telecon. And as you mentioned, before
• 37:21
  they really based off the Mesoamerican culture, which is a
• 37:28
  historic region, spanning modern-day Mexico while Amala
• 37:33
  Honduras. Belize, El Salvador, Nicaragua
• 37:37
  and Costa Rica and includes indigenous groups like the Maya,
• 37:43
  the Olmec, and the Aztecs, and the Toltec.
• 37:47
  Which is just like a massive massive.
• 37:53
  Well of inspiration, which Ruth Carter really used beautifully.
• 37:59
  It was beautiful. It was definitely my favorite
• 38:02
  part of this film. You know, I was wondering like
• 38:06
  what could Ruth Carter do to, you know, kind of one-up what
• 38:08
  she did before and what I loved about her work on the first one.
• 38:12
  It was about world-building, she created what conda?
• 38:16
  And in this film, she had to Create wakanda and also create
• 38:21
  talaq on at the same time. Yes.
• 38:24
  And it was beautiful it. She like, you know, did double
• 38:27
  what she did in the first film, which is why I think she's
• 38:30
  definitely getting Oscar nomination and I think likely
• 38:33
  will and should win honestly. Because she just, she created to
• 38:38
  incredibly beautiful worlds, she did and they took the bulk of
• 38:44
  their inspiration for them from the my Mayan culture, she
• 38:49
  explained to The Hollywood Reporter.
• 38:51
  The Maya vase database was a source of inspiration, the
• 38:56
  Mayans created their story on Pottery, so the database rolls
• 39:00
  out in edges flat. You see that they had sheer
• 39:03
  Fabrics, Jade ear, spools, all the elements of the culture,
• 39:09
  once an idea was put on paper and we liked the aesthetic of
• 39:12
  it, the drawing or idea went to the historians.
• 39:18
  They they come back and say that doesn't resent Mayan culture in
• 39:22
  the era that we are pulling most of our ideas from.
• 39:25
  So you need to change these aspects.
• 39:28
  It was classic 17th century Mayan so we'd go back and tweak
• 39:33
  it. You're creating a new world
• 39:36
  that's based on real historical anchors and you want the people
• 39:41
  who have this in their lineage to be proud that this was
• 39:46
  accurate. So So they really went to all
• 39:50
  lengths possible to ground it in reality and historical accuracy,
• 39:55
  which is it turned out beautifully.
• 39:59
  Yeah, I loved it and just seeing all the costumes, every single
• 40:03
  one was, you know, different from the other, the Fabrics, the
• 40:07
  textiles detects. I was especially so beautiful.
• 40:11
  I mean, and it's, I love the inspiration to have being
• 40:14
  underwater. We having talked about the fact
• 40:17
  that Most of this took place in filming underwater to, yeah,
• 40:22
  which is incredibly difficult. I still don't understand how
• 40:26
  they do this. How do costume?
• 40:28
  I mean, we've talked before on, like, how do you design costumes
• 40:31
  for black and white? I don't, you know where to start
• 40:35
  with design a costume that goes underwater, right?
• 40:39
  That is my biggest question for when we do speak with for
• 40:41
  refrigerator is like, how, how, how?
• 40:45
  Well thankfully. Lee.
• 40:48
  She is very open to talking about it as she did with The
• 40:51
  Hollywood Reporter when she was talking about name Moore's,
• 40:55
  incredible headdress, I love it. It's so good.
• 41:00
  So good. She said we made a headdress for
• 41:03
  name or with organic materials and Feathers.
• 41:08
  He went underwater and everyone loved the way it looked and
• 41:12
  floated, but when it came out, it was unusable because
• 41:16
  chemicals In the water, bleached out the color.
• 41:21
  So, we were, so we were constantly learning how to fix
• 41:25
  our dies. So, they didn't fade, we had to
• 41:29
  weigh and tether the Fabrics. Every costume was different.
• 41:34
  We put MBA, Coos would like costume on a background actor,
• 41:39
  and plunged him in the 20-foot tank.
• 41:42
  And he just floated because it would not weigh him enough to
• 41:47
  get him. I'm to go down and to do work
• 41:50
  underwater. I decided to think Roman
• 41:55
  gladiator and give him a raffia skirt and all the accoutrements
• 42:01
  with sandals. Instead of big heavy Ugg boots.
• 42:06
  So it's all about weight. It sounds like it's all about
• 42:09
  weight. She's out this like over and
• 42:10
  over again because she's like, if you do not wait, anything, if
• 42:13
  you don't tether it, gravity Works.
• 42:16
  Everything just floats up. Like, it does not work.
• 42:20
  So they really have to think about the weight of the costumes
• 42:24
  and then like she said, you know, a lot of those Fabrics it
• 42:27
  as far as, you know, technology has come for died fastness, you
• 42:32
  know, just plunging costumes in the water for, you know, hours
• 42:37
  on end, you know, can't stop chemicals from messing with the
• 42:41
  dye fastness so they had to do all sorts of crazy things to get
• 42:46
  these costumes. Is in working order for the
• 42:49
  film. I'm blown away also in telecon
• 42:53
  we see some to incredible costumes.
• 42:56
  I absolutely loved one. You seen the more aware and I'm
• 43:00
  not I don't really remember at what point in the film.
• 43:02
  I just know it's in telecon and also sure he wears two, it's
• 43:05
  more of like that ceremonial. Look, those are both Iris van
• 43:09
  herpen pieces actually and you could really see that Iris
• 43:15
  influence on them. Yes, so sure he wears the
• 43:17
  Ceremonial piece of the Jade on it.
• 43:21
  That is Iris piece and then the one nomura where's will post it
• 43:26
  on our Instagram so you could all see.
• 43:28
  But stunning, stunning stunning work, actually Ruth worked with
• 43:33
  a few designers. I know iris is one of them shoe
• 43:35
  worked with mu glare. That college/university moment
• 43:40
  we were talking about. I'll call you as Jack is
• 43:42
  macclare and I know there's a few others too, I'll get stuff.
• 43:46
  I mean I can watch them. Titanic on scenes over and over,
• 43:49
  and over. Yeah, that is like, all of these
• 43:53
  different, you know, designers, you know, different people.
• 43:58
  She reached out to like the fact that I came together.
• 44:01
  So, beautiful is The Testament to just how incredible a costume
• 44:04
  designer Ruth is because she knows how to Outsource and how
• 44:09
  to, you know, what people are best at and has the overall
• 44:13
  Vision. So, you know, Outsource and
• 44:16
  delegate Get something so coordinated and beautiful.
• 44:21
  Yeah, couldn't agree more. And also what was so beautiful
• 44:25
  was nekia played by Lupita Nyong'o, I love Lupita.
• 44:30
  I think she's incredible and she did not disappoint in this film.
• 44:35
  I thought she would but she was so good.
• 44:38
  Her performance was so powerful and I loved her armor.
• 44:44
  Yes. That green armor.
• 44:46
  Yeah. My goodness.
• 44:48
  It looked stunning on her and it I liked it because it was really
• 44:52
  like not something we had seen in wakanda before it was
• 44:56
  definitely very like unique to her.
• 44:58
  And she's been living outside wakanda like not involving
• 45:02
  herself. So I liked that kind of like
• 45:05
  distinction. Yeah she has she has a little
• 45:08
  bit more of the Haiti influence now because that's where she's
• 45:11
  living ever since the blip which is you know, a Marvel reference
• 45:15
  for all the Nerds out there. And he also find out that, you
• 45:20
  know, there's other reasons why she's in Haiti as well which was
• 45:24
  like, why? Why did the Angela Bassett drag
• 45:28
  her into this mess? She had no one else to turn to
• 45:33
  which is the sad part of it. All I also have to say that's so
• 45:38
  cool. That Lupita Nyong'o was able to
• 45:41
  speak Spanish too, because she actually grew up speaking
• 45:44
  Spanish, which I thought was, you know, so powerful.
• 45:47
  So, Incredible. Incredible also neck, he has
• 45:52
  funeral scene because there's like a second funeral in this
• 45:55
  film unfortunately and the white on her with the white floral
• 46:00
  like flower crown moment, although like funeral pieces and
• 46:05
  that s funeral was just a small gathering around the Queen's
• 46:09
  casket. I feel stupid even saying that y
• 46:14
  of they all look so good though they all.
• 46:17
  Look wonderful. Especially her.
• 46:19
  That was I searched oak table during that book.
• 46:24
  Yeah. Same I cried a million tears,
• 46:28
  but I also really loved this silver and beige Ensemble that
• 46:35
  she wears. It was, it's so different from
• 46:39
  everything else, she wears and Russa to Vanity Fair about the
• 46:42
  look, it felt so easy and so vulnerable, and still Queen.
• 46:47
  Only but casual I really liked when that one came up because it
• 46:52
  gave us just like a break from all the Majesty, all of the
• 46:57
  pageantry. Oh and it really does like it is
• 47:02
  equally as Regal and gorgeous as all of her other Lux, but that
• 47:10
  beige really just like brings it down a bit.
• 47:13
  It kind of shows you like at this point in the movie, She's a
• 47:16
  little bit tired. She's a little It like, you
• 47:19
  know, I want my kid back. I, you know, yeah, I want my
• 47:23
  country back together and so it's just kind of her being
• 47:27
  like, I feel like having a breath that she hasn't been able
• 47:30
  to have for very long time. Yeah, it's real good stuff when
• 47:35
  she were time out the look that she wears when she goes to the
• 47:38
  beach to meet no more. Hmm.
• 47:40
  And adjust the colors against the background which is, you
• 47:44
  know, the beach, so stunning. NG to look at.
• 47:48
  It's just, she looks so Regal and divine.
• 47:52
  It's just like like, like you said, it's a breath of fresh
• 47:55
  air. It truly is was also a breath of
• 48:01
  fresh air and something. We were all so excited for was
• 48:07
  sheer. He's black panther Sue?
• 48:09
  Yes, it came out so good. We were all, you know, talking
• 48:15
  who's gonna be the Black Panther was Going to be Suri, was it
• 48:19
  going to be nekia? Was it going to be Queen?
• 48:21
  Ramón de which was originally my vote.
• 48:26
  It's kind of felt like it was going to be her.
• 48:29
  Yeah, I mean, based on presidents in the comics that
• 48:32
  should be Cherie. So that was everyone's first,
• 48:36
  you know expectation. Yeah.
• 48:38
  And I really loved it. I loved how like they were, you
• 48:41
  know, bringing back the heart-shaped herb through
• 48:44
  science. And when she took it, It and
• 48:48
  went to like, the ancestral plane, I was free.
• 48:52
  I was freaking out because I was like, oh my gosh, who is gonna
• 48:56
  be in that chair? Yeah, I almost screamed in the
• 49:01
  theater, Spencer. I'll kill Monger.
• 49:06
  I almost screamed because I like, I was like, I don't know
• 49:10
  who liked who could be there. I was like, it has to be, you
• 49:14
  know, Angela Bassett has to be the queen and then it was kill
• 49:16
  Monger. I was Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 49:21
  That was pretty wild seeing Michael B.
• 49:23
  Jordan. Get a quick little Cameo.
• 49:26
  My theater. They start screaming.
• 49:31
  So wild. I loved it.
• 49:33
  And then her Sue. Oh my gosh.
• 49:36
  Yeah, back to the Sioux. I love the gold accents on it.
• 49:40
  It's so cool. You know, we've seen this before
• 49:43
  a little bit and a lot of the armor that Sheree designed for
• 49:45
  t'challa but she really made Made it her own.
• 49:48
  She really did make it her own. I personally, I love the little
• 49:51
  like almost Pearl details throughout it and I feel like
• 49:57
  that was very intentional because Ruth said to Vogue,
• 50:00
  there's a 2d drawing, that's first done by Marvel when it
• 50:03
  comes to designing the superhero suit.
• 50:06
  Then the film's team decided to add in gold accents to the
• 50:10
  initial concept. I think it's part of the
• 50:14
  wakandan language we wanted there.
• 50:17
  Brilliant Armel armor to feel like jewelry and it really does.
• 50:23
  It really does look like, she's put on jewelry and the process
• 50:29
  of making it. I find superhero suits so
• 50:32
  interesting. Same here because it's like none
• 50:37
  of these are practical but there has to be and most of them are
• 50:40
  digitally enhanced. But there has to be a lot of
• 50:43
  practical elements to them and Ruth explain the process to
• 50:47
  vote. Vogue.
• 50:47
  She said the process of making this suit is that we do an exact
• 50:52
  vacuum molding of. Sure.
• 50:55
  He's body. She stands in a chamber gets
• 50:58
  thrust in and we make a Mannequin from that mannequin.
• 51:03
  We decide how do we enhance her muscles?
• 51:06
  So we maybe add a little more shoulders, we might enhance her
• 51:11
  pectorals. We may give her a little more of
• 51:15
  that, Dynamic shape. Too much because we don't want
• 51:18
  to make a cartoon. We just want to show that she
• 51:22
  has earned superhuman strength from the heart shaped herb and
• 51:26
  the dots, I don't know why no one prior to the opening of the
• 51:31
  film. Saw the dots and figure it out.
• 51:34
  It was Sheree. That's so funny.
• 51:37
  Like you dummies. It's so obvious after I read
• 51:42
  that. I was like oh yeah we all should
• 51:45
  have known. Yes she's right.
• 51:49
  Marvel was loving the fact that we didn't pick up on it right.
• 51:53
  Like I thought it was, it could have definitely been Sheree, but
• 51:57
  I also felt like there was a good case where I could have
• 51:59
  been the Kia also, especially with, you know, t'challa
• 52:03
  passing. Like, I feel like Nikki would
• 52:04
  also have that fight to be a black panther, but I was
• 52:08
  surprised by so many people saying it was either in Baku or
• 52:12
  kill Monger, which by the way, he's dead.
• 52:16
  But so many people can't That is insane.
• 52:20
  I was like, I'm sorry. Did we not watch the same first
• 52:22
  Black Panther movie liked it? What happened?
• 52:25
  And then when we were like, it's could be mbaku.
• 52:28
  I was like, have you seen Winston Duke?
• 52:31
  Like that is not mug you in that suit.
• 52:35
  What's wrong with you? It's like, okay, that's clearly
• 52:39
  like a female body. Like this is, what's not in
• 52:43
  Baku, what are you talking about?
• 52:45
  Like times. I just want to say, Wrangle
• 52:47
  people. I mean it would have been cool
• 52:50
  if he was a black panther, don't get me wrong but it's just
• 52:53
  great. Clearly.
• 52:54
  Wasn't him black pants? I do love at the end of the
• 53:00
  movie though. He kind of gets what he always
• 53:02
  wanted right to be the ruler of wakanda, which I like I kind of
• 53:07
  feel like this is a temporary position for you but okay.
• 53:12
  But the Black Panther suit was not the only excellent new set
• 53:17
  of Or that we got Spencer. Oh man we got to see the
• 53:22
  midnight angels and live-action em.
• 53:25
  So we're talking about that blue and gold armor that Sheree makes
• 53:30
  for a coil who's no longer General, the dorm Elijah and
• 53:34
  akoya. Recruits Anika played by the
• 53:36
  incredible Michaela Cole who was so perfect.
• 53:40
  In this film, just Flawless casting.
• 53:43
  I, I love this armor with the first time I saw it.
• 53:46
  I was like, What am I looking at you?
• 53:50
  Like this is freaking weird Arbor but then I look, I mean
• 53:54
  there's comic book reference that looks just like it, the
• 53:58
  midnight Angels. So, roof did incredible job and
• 54:01
  actually really grew to like this armor once you see an
• 54:03
  action the way it moves. I don't, I still don't
• 54:06
  understand what the inspiration is and I'm very excited to talk
• 54:10
  to Ruth about that. Some point.
• 54:12
  But looks so badass, I'm excite it does.
• 54:15
  If you like look. I got a lot of like African
• 54:19
  cultures the kind of masks they would wear.
• 54:22
  I feel like that's probably where they got a lot of that
• 54:24
  influence. But yeah, I'm I want to talk to
• 54:26
  her about this. Hey, it to me like, is me like a
• 54:30
  nautical Vibe a little bit like it almost feels like something
• 54:33
  that the people telecon would, we're almost to me, but like,
• 54:39
  you know, it's so cool. I'm obsessed with it and Nicole,
• 54:41
  you look so good in it. I've actually seen the armor in
• 54:45
  person. It's one of costumes they had
• 54:48
  The theaters, I went to in so beautiful, it's also not the
• 54:53
  only cool armor. We see, we see real William show
• 54:56
  up in her new ironheart suit, which was also badass.
• 55:01
  I know we haven't talked about her really during this this
• 55:04
  episode, but she is my new favorite addition to the Marvel
• 55:10
  Universe. And because I was confused.
• 55:12
  I was like, he, like what's happening with Iron Man and then
• 55:16
  I saw her in this higher. Hurt suit.
• 55:18
  And I was like, oh, oh, oh, this is, yeah, this is our new, our
• 55:22
  new Iron Man, so good. And we're gaining a spin-off, TV
• 55:26
  series. Come on.
• 55:28
  Well, what's I'm gonna watch this shit out of it, so excited.
• 55:32
  Oh man, so good, so good. But they truly saved the best
• 55:38
  for their mid-credits surprise. Seen Spencer, man, talking about
• 55:45
  tears, touch a touch, Nala and the Kia had a son of course.
• 55:50
  Hmm. The young actor who plays the
• 55:52
  child son is divine love cunha do son and he's an incredible
• 55:59
  incredible young actor. I believe he's all of seven but
• 56:04
  all of a sudden years old, making me cry like a little baby
• 56:07
  in the theater. It was just the perfect.
• 56:11
  Perfect ending to this film. It was just like at the end of
• 56:14
  the day, you know, this film was really a tribute.
• 56:17
  You Chadwick Boseman and I feel like those last 5-10 minutes
• 56:22
  really took it home for me, Leticia?
• 56:24
  Right? With the scene where she's like
• 56:27
  finally like sitting down and crying by the beach.
• 56:31
  So powerful, you know, she that you'd have to say anything
• 56:34
  because you just felt how real those tears were.
• 56:38
  Oh my gosh. I feel like I'm getting choked
• 56:39
  up. Just thinking about it.
• 56:41
  It was really beautiful and such a great send-off and I'm excited
• 56:46
  to see what. Yeah.
• 56:47
  Young t'challa does and maybe some future films will see.
• 56:51
  I know I'm excited. I'm so excited but that is the
• 56:56
  end of black panther wakanda forever.
• 56:59
  Spencer, yes, I can't believe we're finally here and it's time
• 57:04
  to play our favorite game one last time for the year.
• 57:07
  Are you ready? Elizabeth I am ready.
• 57:10
  Hit it. Daniel the one costume to rule
• 57:15
  them all. Spencer was your one costume to
• 57:22
  rule them. All, this was very hard because
• 57:25
  there's so many Flawless costumes in this film.
• 57:29
  But to me, I think my favorite was actually, no more has a
• 57:33
  lionfish. Look, we see on the bridge to
• 57:36
  me. It just said, everything.
• 57:38
  I loved about this film. You know, Ruth.
• 57:41
  Carter really had to step up what she did.
• 57:43
  Andre crane A Whole New World for telecon, and I just felt
• 57:47
  like, Like this, you know, dedication to them.
• 57:50
  Understanding of Mesoamerican culture was really beautiful and
• 57:55
  this piece that Noir. Where's I feel like is just
• 57:57
  everything. It's just so beautiful I think
• 57:59
  roof and her team did such a great job, understanding a
• 58:02
  culture, you know, doing the research making aesthetic and
• 58:06
  staying true to that Mayan Heritage.
• 58:09
  So definitely my favorite costume.
• 58:12
  It's so beautiful, is an excellent choice. - series
• 58:18
  funeral, look right at the beginning because it, like we
• 58:23
  said before, it really sets the tone for her entire character
• 58:29
  development, those baked tux Tusk earrings, you know, just
• 58:33
  represent really represent the like weight of her grief which
• 58:37
  she does not let go of till she meets her.
• 58:40
  Nephew, she she holds that literally until the very last
• 58:45
  scene. And then, The little graphic of
• 58:49
  the heart-shaped herb on her hood, you know, representing
• 58:53
  like, okay, she is going to be the Black Panther.
• 58:56
  Like she is the next, you know, hero of wakanda.
• 59:00
  And it just it represents everything she goes through in
• 59:05
  this movie and I think it's just a Flawless look.
• 59:08
  Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It's so funny.
• 59:11
  How much like for shouting there was and the costumes because
• 59:15
  again, Sheree has this out That are faced by cancer.
• 59:19
  What Ruth Carter said she was like, how did you all?
• 59:21
  Not know. Yeah, she's all right.
• 59:23
  It was so obvious. And with that that brings us to
• 59:29
  the end of wakanda forever and the end of all of our episodes
• 59:33
  this year. Yeah, here we, this is it,
• 59:38
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• 59:44
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• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:44
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• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:57
  Yeah, it's been an incredible year Elizabeth and I'm so
• 1:01:04
  thankful for everyone who's listening to us and support us
• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:49
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