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Elon Musk On Joe Rogan Part 2 · Gil I Am

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  Speaker 1: Well, money go rough water magnitude, where was that money going?
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  Speaker 2: Well, so this is where you get into the sort
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  Speaker 2: of gray boundary between waste and fraud. If money is
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  Speaker 2: sent to a personal or organization from the government and
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  Speaker 2: you didn't really deserve it, but the government still sent
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  Speaker 2: it to you, is that waste or fraud?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean there's a lot of payments that where
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  Speaker 2: someone just approved approved the payment, but then that payment
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  Speaker 2: officer changed jobs or retired or died and the payments
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  Speaker 2: just keep going.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's like if you forget to pay your gym membership
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. Now imagine it's not the gym membership.
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  Speaker 2: You said. Your gym membership is twenty billion dollars a
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  Speaker 2: year or something, you know, but they forgot to turn
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  Speaker 2: it off. Like that's happening at Gale in the govern
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  Speaker 2: It's totally nuts, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So insane.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's totally insane.
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  Speaker 1: So what did you expect when you went in? Did
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  Speaker 1: you expect it?
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  Speaker 2: Like I thought it's I thought it would be it
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  Speaker 2: would be bad, but I did not think it would
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  Speaker 2: be as bad as this. I mean, look, the good
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  Speaker 2: news is that, uh, it's a target rich environment for
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  Speaker 2: saving money. It's not like it's not like if it
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  Speaker 2: was a very well run ship. Uh I, it's very efficient,
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  Speaker 2: it would be hard to improve. But it's not efficient,
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  Speaker 2: so therefore it is actually relatively easy to improve. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just say, it's not rocket science. You know, I know
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  Speaker 2: rocket science. So it's a lot of mundane things. So
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  Speaker 2: and some of the some of the things are like
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  Speaker 2: so crazy that we didn't even know to ask about
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  Speaker 2: that because we just assumed, like, you know, payments out
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  Speaker 2: of the treasury computer would have a payment categorization code
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  Speaker 2: and they would have some explanatory note saying what the
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  Speaker 2: payments for. The idea that it would be just untraceable
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  Speaker 2: blank checks didn't occur to us at first. Jesus. So anyway, just.
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  Speaker 1: Slash Rogan, So, is that one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: accounts to this? There's this four point something trillion dollars
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of they don't know where it went.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know that that's a I think that's probably
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  Speaker 2: a cumulative number. Yes, so yeah, but yeah, if if
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  Speaker 2: you add up.
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  Speaker 1: It's do you remember that story, Jamie, Yeah, what was
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  Speaker 1: the story?
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  Speaker 2: They just didn't have an accounting for it.
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  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was spent on legitimate things. Don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't We don't know what we spent it on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, how do you know when I can't
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  Speaker 2: say it's was spent legitimately if they don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it was spent on, that doesn't make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is such a fascinating time because with
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  Speaker 1: this setup the way it is right now, with Trump
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  Speaker 1: back in after all that happened to him, and with
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  Speaker 1: you there and with RFK Junior and Tulsi and Cash Battel,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, this is a wild time to find out
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  Speaker 1: what's really going on. That's like never happened before. This
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  Speaker 1: is nothing like the first term. No, like the first term,
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  Speaker 1: he had a bunch of neo cons in the cabinet
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  Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of shady people that he didn't know,
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  Speaker 1: and he had to appoint all these different people and
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  Speaker 1: maybe he got some bad picks. Now he's had four
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  Speaker 1: years to stew on it, right, and with you guys
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  Speaker 1: all going through this, we're getting an understanding of the
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  Speaker 1: government that we've literally never had before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a revolutionary cabinet and maybe the most
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  Speaker 2: revolutionary cabinet since the First Revolution. Uh. This is this
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  Speaker 2: is not a bunch of business as usual types. So
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  Speaker 2: this is why you know some of that the standard
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  Speaker 2: confirmations are quite challenging, is because when you when you
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  Speaker 2: put to try to appoint people who are going to
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  Speaker 2: change the system, Yeah, the system doesn't want to let
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  Speaker 2: them through.
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  Speaker 1: But it's fascinating because it's like the vampires all out themselves,
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  Speaker 1: Like now everybody knows who the system is. Like if
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  Speaker 1: you're just lying openly about us AID and then they
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  Speaker 1: come and hear you talk on a podcast and explain
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  Speaker 1: what's really going on, Like he's starving mothers. There's mothers
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  Speaker 1: that can't get food. That's all you're hearing. That's no
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  Speaker 1: one's talking in any of these mainstream liberal talk shows.
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  Speaker 1: No one is talking about all this fraud and waste.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're cutting off their graph machine. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what they're upset about. That's that's the real thing they're
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  Speaker 2: upset about. Uh. And if people want to know what
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  Speaker 2: doche is cutting, and I want to like, these are
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  Speaker 2: cuts that Dose recommends to the department, and usually these
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  Speaker 2: recommendations are followed, but uh, these are recommendations that are
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  Speaker 2: then confirmed by the department. The you can see line
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  Speaker 2: by line what dog has done at doge doc up.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever we do, we put on dose stock up
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  Speaker 2: so you can see everything that is being done, and.
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  Speaker 1: There's a tracker that shows is how much money has
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  Speaker 1: been saved.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and you can look at each line item
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  Speaker 2: and you know, they like a bunch of these sort
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  Speaker 2: of sort of fall left shows. We'll say like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a constitutional crisis, blah blah blah. But what they
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  Speaker 2: won't do is point out which payments are wrong. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So my challenge to them is point out which payments
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  Speaker 2: are wrong. Yeah, go through it, work which of which
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  Speaker 2: of these sort of waste slash fraward things are wrong?
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  Speaker 2: Which line? Explain that line to the public.
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  Speaker 1: They won't be able to, right, Yeah, that's why you're
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  Speaker 1: not hearing any specifics. You're hearing stories about mothers.
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  Speaker 2: We can name the specifics, Yeah, line by line. We
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  Speaker 2: got the receipts.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. If you're post the receipts
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  Speaker 1: and if you're only talking about the propaganda talking points
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  Speaker 1: and you're not talking about the very clear fraud and waste,
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  Speaker 1: it's very obvious what you're doing. Yeah, you're just gaslighting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, totally so exactly because we're saying like, look,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, I've said we're going to make mistakes, We're
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  Speaker 2: not going to be perfect, so if we make a mistake,
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  Speaker 2: we'll quickly fix it. So we'll we'll know we need
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  Speaker 2: to act fast, so stop wasting billions of dollars of
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  Speaker 2: tax payer money. But if we make a mistake, we'll
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  Speaker 2: reverse it quickly, right, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So it's also this interesting narrative that you shouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: access to the social security information as if no one's
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  Speaker 1: had access to it before. Is that the Biden administration
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three had There was like fifty three people,
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  Speaker 1: some of them were students, that had accessed to all
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  Speaker 1: this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as it is, there are tens of thousands of
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  Speaker 2: federal employees that have accessed already to the system. Anyone
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  Speaker 2: from DOGE has to go through the same vetting process
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  Speaker 2: that those federal employees went through, so it's not like
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  Speaker 2: some unvetted random situation. For example, there's a security clearance needed,
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  Speaker 2: the DOGE person has to have that same security clearance,
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  Speaker 2: so there's no reduction in security. But I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the vast numbers of Social Security numbers have leaked onto
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  Speaker 2: the internet. People have hacked the government systems multiple times.
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  Speaker 2: Vast amounts of public information has been hacked and out
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  Speaker 2: to the internet. So when there's a guy at the
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  Speaker 2: IRS that leaked a half a million tax returns just
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  Speaker 2: a few years.
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  Speaker 1: Ago on purpose, Yeah, for what reason?
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  Speaker 2: For politic he wanted to. I think he was trying
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  Speaker 2: to get a Trump and maybe me and a few others.
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  Speaker 2: So but he still like five hundred thousand text returnes
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  Speaker 2: like not a few, Like it's a lot of tax retnes.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, I remember that story.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can just read about it online. It's not
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  Speaker 2: it's a real thing.
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  Speaker 1: So these are the narratives. That's the narrative that you
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't have access to Social Security. The other narrative is
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  Speaker 1: that starving people are going to die and women aren't
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  Speaker 1: going to be pregnant and not have nutrients for their babies.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's all you're hearing.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, well that's the that's the that's the only
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  Speaker 2: thing they can say. But they can't point to the
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  Speaker 2: line at him, right, And so they can't say like, well,
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  Speaker 2: this is the thing where you know the nutrients for
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  Speaker 2: pregnant mothers were stopped. This is they can't point to
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  Speaker 2: that because we didn't is a lie.
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  Speaker 1: What's fascinating to me is how much the mainstream media
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  Speaker 1: is in line with the very specific talking points, and
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  Speaker 1: how little you'll have Fox News essentially have Fox News
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  Speaker 1: on television. It's like the only one that is pointing
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  Speaker 1: out the ridiculous fraud and waste. And you know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: as you saw the Jeff Bezos thing in the Washington Post,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna stop all the wacky editorials and and limit
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  Speaker 1: that stuff to uh I think it was wealth and
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  Speaker 1: personal freedom or something along those lines.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean I think it's this kind
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  Speaker 2: of I think it makes sense because he's just talking
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  Speaker 2: about the things, not the sort of you're just talking about.
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  Speaker 1: The paint opinion pieces pieces.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the regular journalism stays the same.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a detriment to their business. I mean, you're
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  Speaker 1: seeing over and over again people that just they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear all this shit from these people anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you're you're you're saying, it's almost like you're
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  Speaker 1: caught in an outdated version of the virus, and everybody
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: else already has the immunity to that virus. Like this, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you need you need a new mind virus,
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  Speaker 1: the one that you're pushing it's like it doesn't work anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It's too crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing is very crazy. I mean
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  Speaker 2: the media is incredibly potisan. I mean they're not I
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  Speaker 2: mean they take almost all the media is you're left shifted. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like it's kind of weird if you talk
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  Speaker 2: to somebody who gets all the information from like what
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  Speaker 2: I call legacy media. Uh, they're living in a different world,
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  Speaker 2: yeah than if they say, I'm listening to you know,
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  Speaker 2: your podcast, or are getting the news news from from
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  Speaker 2: X or you know, just if it's it's like it's
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of wild, like it is very wild, like
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  Speaker 2: you talked, it's it's like they're living in an ultimate reality.
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  Speaker 1: Oh there's a lot of people that I talked to
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  Speaker 1: that I have to go. Where did you hear that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, but I mean like the Associated Press, which
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  Speaker 2: I call associated propaganda, the AP. You know, they they
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  Speaker 2: ran an international news story saying that we that doors
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  Speaker 2: fired air traffic controllers, But we didn't fire any air
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  Speaker 2: traffic controllers at all. In fact, we're trying to hire
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  Speaker 2: air traffic controllers, not fire them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw that. You made a tweet about it, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what do you call it now? Do you call it
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  Speaker 1: a post?
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  Speaker 2: Post? Yeah? Whatever?
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  Speaker 1: You can't call it a tweet though? Do you call
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  Speaker 1: a tweet actually post?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know this is uh, but like if you
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  Speaker 2: if you like, let's say, if somebody posts, if somebody
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  Speaker 2: puts up like a you know, a two hour long video,
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  Speaker 2: that's not a tweet, right, it's a post.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, good point, Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, but I don't know, hot over it. If
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  Speaker 2: people still want to call it a tweet whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You put a post about it, just to get back
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  Speaker 1: to it saying that if you we need highly qualified
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  Speaker 1: air traffic controllers, if you've retired, if you would consider
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  Speaker 1: doing it again, we could use you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So a lot of really qualified air traffic controllers
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  Speaker 2: were pushed out because of DEI stuff. So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not to be blunt, I mean a bunch of old
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  Speaker 2: white a bunch of really good, talented, old white guys
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  Speaker 2: were pushed out. It's not cool. And so we have
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  Speaker 2: there's a talent shortage in air traffic control because of
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  Speaker 2: DEI and and not being not hiring people on merit, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, which is so crazy that that worked.
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  Speaker 2: I think we should not put the public safety at risk,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because of some demanded philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: So many made a post today about it infiltrating the NSA.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see any of that?
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  Speaker 2: That was crazy, some gnarly stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Crazy. What they had started off is just like
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  Speaker 1: this sort of fringe thing and people would beat up.
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  Speaker 1: Then it completely infiltrated the organization and they were spending
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  Speaker 1: all their time, like.
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  Speaker 2: Four hundred people or something and some like some chat
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  Speaker 2: sex chat room with like some extremely demanded stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, I said it. I'll send it
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  Speaker 1: to you, Jamie because it's so cookie, your your what
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  Speaker 1: this is the NSA? I thought the NSA was just
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  Speaker 1: all about like information and we're supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, like if, like I said, as a
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  Speaker 2: national threat or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is exactly it. So she uh,
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  Speaker 1: more than one hundred intelligence staffers will be fired over
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  Speaker 1: sexually explicit texts in NSA chat rooms. Gabbartt says, so
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  Speaker 1: so top intelligence official told Waters that the workers in
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  Speaker 1: question were brazen and using an NSA platform intended for
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  Speaker 1: professional use to conduct this kind of really really horrific behavior.
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  Speaker 1: What is the behavior? What exactly? What is it? Do
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  Speaker 1: they say? In this article, Uh yeah, I think okay,
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  Speaker 1: it says employees who participate in the NSA's obscene, pornographic
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  Speaker 1: and sexually explicit chat rooms.
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  Speaker 2: Your tax dollars at work.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was all liked. I mean, it was all
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  Speaker 1: like LBGTQ stuff. It was. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like transition stuff, and yeah, I know, I definitely saved it.
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  Speaker 1: But the point is they had it infiltrated the organization.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what they should be talking about at all,
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  Speaker 2: at all at all. Yeah, they're supposed to be protecting
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: the country, right.
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  Speaker 1: And if you and people were talking about how they're
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: spending half their time in these meetings and that they're
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: just like constantly having to attend these things where they
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: talk about these issues, like what are what are you doing? Like,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: if you have a problem with someone that's discriminatory, get
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: rid of that person. That's it. Yes, it's your problems over.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: You've got someone who's homophobic in your business, they're openly homophobic. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you can't work here. That's not cool. That's it. It's it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to have fucking meetings constantly promoting this.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to change someone's opinion by berating them
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a work environment should be a professional
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: environment where you know, they're they're they're getting the job
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  Speaker 2: done that they're you know, you know, being paid to
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  Speaker 2: do it. Should be of course, obviously not supposed to
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  Speaker 2: be sort of getting paid for bizarre sexcapade.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so fascinating that the virus are so strong
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  Speaker 1: that it made it into the NSA. Yes, and was
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  Speaker 1: You would think those are some hard core too.
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  Speaker 2: It was in there too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were in there too, which is bananas. You
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  Speaker 1: would think same thing, like hard nosed, like tough people
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  Speaker 1: doing hard.
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  Speaker 2: Work who cans fire you whenever they want, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and get revenge on you whenever they want.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty wild. Yeah, and you know they exist when
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: the president leaves, they stay, People move around, You stay
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  Speaker 1: a part of the organization for your entire career. You
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: deeply entrenched in their system and how things work and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: who's back to rub and who's who's a bad guy,
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  Speaker 1: who's a good guy, who's on our side who's not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's scary, actually, yeah, so was that?
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  Speaker 1: What's taken so long with this Epstein files?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up with that?
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: What is up with that? It was like, yeah, it's
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it's like Lucy in the football with Charlie Brown, which
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: she always pulls out football away. It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's like they keep telling us they get to release
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  Speaker 1: day one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, a serious case of no one's being arrested aphobia.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: You know, well, like what.
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  Speaker 1: The is going on? What the fuck is going on? Also,
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  Speaker 1: there's this real fear that someone's destroying the evidence, and
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you keep hearing these stories, unsubstantiated stories of you know,
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  Speaker 1: FBI evidence.
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  Speaker 2: I mean like tons of videos and uh recordings. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he had all sorts of things like there's
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  Speaker 2: a mountain of evidence, So where's that mountain?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where's that mountain? And what would be the reason
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: why they would agree, Like there would have to be
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: something in it for them to agree to not put
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: it out right, Like there has to be some sort
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  Speaker 1: of financial entanglement, some sort of a relationship with the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: people that are on that list that they can provide
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  Speaker 1: a value that was big enough for you to not
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  Speaker 1: release it, or to slow release it, or to hope
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you can get away with like putting out some redacted
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: files that don't show anything. This is only a stage only.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Stage one don't worry. The real stuff's coming. Like that
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense, Like, why wouldn't you just release
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: it all? Like what could possibly be? Well, we're protecting
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I've got probably the same information
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: that I mean, I'm just reading what's the latest thing
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: on the exit, you know, just looking at my next feed,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, you know, it's a real page turner,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and I we're gonna get some revelations today. I was like,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a big binders full of stuff. There's got to be
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: something in there.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Well, there was some All those people that were given
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a copy of it, they were all like waiting around.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: They got the Willy Wanker ticket. Yeah, yeah, totally yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And what happened?
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Nothing?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Nothing. So I think Laura Lumer released it online. I think, right,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: she's not very pleased about this. So does anybody find
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: anything in there that's interesting?
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: It's all old stuff from twenty fifteen.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: To two, Okay, what the fuck is going on?
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But then apparently there's that they discovered a whole bunch
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: of stuff at the Southern District of New York, right,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: So that's and and I'm like, and I think, you know,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Pam Bondis is actually great and Cashpitell are great, but
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: they're like, they just got there, you know, Right, So
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: then they're they're in are they just got there, but
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: they're they're in a hostile environment. They're not in a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: friendly environment, right, So you know, it's like if you
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: suddenly got put in captain of a ship, but the
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: crew was previously your enemy, right, crews previously your enemy,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And you're telling them give me evidence.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Doesn't want to give you this enemy. They were like
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: your multiple enemies just a moment ago. You just got there. Yeah,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: so yeah, I think we've got to give you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: the tune in general, and you know, your director, the FBI,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: it's so a little bit of slack here because they
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: literally just got there.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I think so too. But hey, don't say you're going
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to release it on day one. Then you shouldn't have
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: said that. And don't say you got a big drop
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: coming tomorrow. And that's some bullshit that's been around forever.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: It's disappointing.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what the and where's the JFK files? Where are those?
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Let them go?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Did they release anything on that front?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. It can't be anything that's gotten
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to me yet. So if nothing's gotten to me, it
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: can't be.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, if this conspiracy evidence, someone's going to send.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: It to text me, Tim Dill and Dave Smith, Someone's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: gonna say somebody yea, yeah, so it Yeah, you would
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: find out. And here's the real question, like what could
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: even be in there at this point that they haven't
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: cleared out if you've got paperwork from nineteen sixty three,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Like what is in there still? What is in there
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that could possibly be incriminating that supposedly Trump said that
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: if you saw what they showed me, you wouldn't release
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it either. Okay, what the fuck?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it, so tellhouse.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, he said, you've seen it all.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just posted to his like exit count or something.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just that sounds like an Elon move.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think he can. He's the director of the FBI.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I think he has to go through proper channels.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And does he he's the channel?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I g yeah, but there's rules. It sounds like drop
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: like drop, he needs an executive order.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, what channels? He is the channel?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Well, again, imagine just getting to the hull or just
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: getting to the deck of the ship and you're the captain. Yeah,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and now you you have to figure out who's running things,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: who's doing this, where is everything? Yeah?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just getting getting anything done. Like just like I said,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: you're just joined as captain of a ship of where
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: the crew ate your guts. They were your enemy, Yeah,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: they were your enemy. They're strongly opposed to anything you
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: want to do. Yeah, and you're trying to give them.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Orders and you're trying to expose them. Yeah. They don't
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: want to be exposed, right, You're you're literally people that
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: are working there probably a part of this problem.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I mean I was reading on x that like Comy's
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: daughter is like the lead prosecutor and in the Southern
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: District of New York Do you read that?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And and like so obviously there's a bit of an
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: entanglement there, a little bit like what if there's something
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that you know makes puts your dad in a bad light.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Did you see General Flynn He was on a podcast
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and he spoke directly to James Comy, Yeah, and he said, Jim,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you're going to jail and unless you give up someone
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: deeper than you, and you know who that is. You
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about? Like that is wild. Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think that the former director of the FBI might
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: be really in that kind of deep shit, and then
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: he really actually was doing some evil, corrupt shit while
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: he was running the FBI.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like there's some very shady stuff
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: that's been going on.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Seems like it definitely happened in the sixties, right, Everybody
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: kind of admits to that. They admitt the FBI killed
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: black panthers. They did, They did a lot of shit.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that went on that we
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: know the government did way back in the day.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why don't we just data down for the files,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: just go in there, take photos of old papers, presumably paper,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and just posted online and let live the jokes forward?
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Isn't presumably every everyone makes it set him like filing
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: cabinet somewhere I don't know right, where is it? Where's
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: where's the magic filing cabinet?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: How are they hiding it? Who's got access to it?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Like this? This is what I was hoping day one.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I was hoping, But obviously it's taken a lot longer
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: than that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: So I think part of it is, like, you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: like let's let's say, let's say you were made direct
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to the FBI.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, I might be able to Yeah, that's that's crazy. Literally,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: you know, you know what's he doing now he's he's
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: one of the big dogs. But yeah, it's a secret
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: service guy. Yeah, legit guy. But people think of him
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: as a Fox News guy, just like Pete Hegsath same thing.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: They don't want to think about his distinguished military career.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: They want to say, oh, that Fox News guy deputy
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: I mean that's hardcore. If he if it's if it's
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: reasonably findable, I think he's going to find it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the three him and Cash.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, I think they're going to get stuff.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Crazy would it be if they couldn't? Though? How crazy
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: would it be if they can't find anything? If it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: that Yeah, if.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Everybody covers her ass like an FBI computer, you type
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: in the search just like with the basic mechanism here,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: like it's either in a filing cabinet paper where it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: like you know, maybe there's like progressive levels of security,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: you know, you.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Like open this door you got to have do you
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: have the past with this level like level unlocked and
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: there's a level unlocked and it's like.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Laptop. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of US laptop. You
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: gotta only plug it in. It's in a skiff. Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: This is why I like I think. I think like
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: a tour of Fort Knocks would be awesome, Like a
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: live tour of Fort Knox would actually see It's like,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: is the cold there or not? They say it is
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Is it real? Or did somebody spray paint some lead?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: You know, imagine if it's not, it's not like.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Some of it's missing ready to go?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: What if a lot of it's missing? What if like
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: half of it's missing?
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, how do we even know?
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: They said the last time they let someone look at
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it was decades ago.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well the last I leave, the last normal audit
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: was in the fifties. So I'm like, okay, I just
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: think about.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, think about all the other stuff that you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: pointed out, all the checks that just go out the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the NGO payments, the Social Security people. Think about all
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: just all that. Now apply that to the gold absolutely.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I just want to like emphasize the sure madness of
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: the government. It's just because they have like magic money
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: computers that that the checks, the checks never bounce for
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the federal government. Like, so you don't have the normal
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: corrective mechanism that you'd have for a company or for
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: an individual. The checks just always always clear. The net
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: result is inflation, which is effectively a tax on everyone.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: But you know, like the Defense parent hasn't passed an
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: audit and I don't know how many years, seven years, yeah,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I mean exactly, So it's like you have to be
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: freaking Chuck Norris, Like only Chuck Nars can get the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Defense Department to pass an ordit, you know type of thing.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That's the level of skill, your need.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: You know, well that's what's so insane. If you bring
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: it back to the idea that it's a business, well yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: this should never be tolerated in any kind of functional
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: business exactly.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So you know, you know, the Pentagon will like like
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: they're accounting error, Like the stuff that they lose in
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: the couch cushions is like twenty thirty billion dollars a year.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: They don't know where we're it's gone, go and it's gone.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It's so insane.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It's insane.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: It's so insane.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So that's why I say, like even simple things like
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: just requiring that that outgoing payments for the treasure computer
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: have a payment code and a comment of what the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: payment is about, and someone to call about the payment.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I think we'll have a very powerful effect in stopping
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: wasteful outflows and stopping forward.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's another way to look at this. Imagine
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: if something there are people like you and the Doge
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: team out there in the world. Imagine if one of
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: those works for an organization like USAID or any other
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: organization and has this understanding of how much fuckery is involved,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: but they have evil intentions and they're entwined in this
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: system for decades and decades, and they've built a career
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and all the entanglements that come in and they don't
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: moving shit around. You could probably do it easy. It
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: sounds like the way you've laid it out. If you
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: were a career person who's in there forever, who knew
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: how everything works, and you were very clever, you could
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: make some shit happen. And you could probably do it
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: in conjunction with some people that you know that are
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: forming an NGO. Hey, let's all work together.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the resistance that you're facing.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the biggest scam of all time.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: This is not something you ever thought.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You the biggest scam of all ever, time, ever, of
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: human history, of human history.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I think you're right.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get a trillion dollar scam. There's never been a
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: trillion dollar scam. You know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Now, this is not something that you ever set out
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to do. This is not it. You didn't have this
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: as a career aspiration.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: This is not like, this is the most absurd outcome
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I can possibly imagine. Actually, also, like dough started as
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: like a sort of a meme coin, you know, it
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: was like a joke cryptocurrency involving memes and dogs, and it's.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Just so funny that the letters wind up being perfect.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well actually I was originally going to quote like
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the Government Efficiency Commission, which is very boring name, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: then people online would no, it needs to be the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency, And I was like, you know what,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You're right, of course, of course.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Of course, I mean it's more evidence of the simulation totally.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: That lit like a mess