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Here Comes Jonah Ray to Talk about Art and Friendship · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey folks, this is Bill Corbett of Riff Trax and
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  Speaker 1: Mystery Science Theater 3000 and you are listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: by the Motion Picture Association of America.
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  Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one.
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  Speaker 2: Million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 3: We provide more cooling in the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 4: To your stations, we have a rebound.
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  Speaker 5: If you've always wanted to talk, why don't y'all go outside?
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  Speaker 6: What a businessman he is.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, totally. From day one, he's like, I'm retaining the rights.
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  Speaker 5: I'm composing the music. I'm retaining the rights.
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  Speaker 3: And that's, you know, that's why Brendan Small has a
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  Speaker 3: lot of money is because he did all the music
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  Speaker 3: for not only Death Clock, but he learned it when
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  Speaker 3: he was doing the music. He did all the music
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  Speaker 3: for home movies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so he realized how much more he got paid
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  Speaker 3: than everybody else because of just like, because music, it
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  Speaker 3: pays out every time. Every time, yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I've heard even with the, like, just theme
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  Speaker 5: songs for dumb sitcoms.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 5: And somehow the lyrics. So they're like, put lyrics in.
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  Speaker 5: Because lyrics get you the next level or something. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: every one of those that then 20 years later is
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  Speaker 5: still in syndication, every time it plays.
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  Speaker 3: Alan Thicke wrote a lot of those. And John Tesh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: He's a fabulous musician.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: As we all know. We all know. Truthfully, I miss
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  Speaker 5: him on Entertainment Tonight. I can't watch it now.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's just, it's so tabloid TV or just, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it was always fluff. I don't care. It was always fluff.
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  Speaker 5: But like I grew up on it and I was
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  Speaker 5: like the Mary Hart John Tess years were like.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know what it was? It was a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of like EPKs. It was a bunch of just like
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  Speaker 3: press kits that they would host. And it showed you
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes stuff. And it had less to do
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  Speaker 3: about like the world of celebrity and more to do
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  Speaker 3: about like it's like. People are shooting this movie. We
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  Speaker 3: talk to them behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 5: And it was like they weren't trying to be cool.
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  Speaker 5: By the time they brought in people that were very
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  Speaker 5: conscious of what they were like on screen, where it's like,
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  Speaker 5: Mary Hart's not trying to be cool. She looks like that.
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  Speaker 3: She sits there. We left the serious stuff for a
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  Speaker 3: current affair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Hardcore, hard-hitting journalism.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely. All right.
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  Speaker 5: Do we want to just jump into it?
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  Speaker 3: Sure. I figured you already started rolling.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We can do, I mean, you kind of always did.
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  Speaker 5: There was always like an ease into Jonah Radio.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It was very informal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We tried to make, that was almost the idea of it,
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  Speaker 3: just making it as informal as possible.
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  Speaker 5: Which is where I've ended up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But just so they know who we're talking. What's up
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  Speaker 5: and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian and joining me
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  Speaker 5: this week.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. Am I supposed to say my own name?
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  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Or do you think I was going to do a
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  Speaker 3: spit take when you said my name?
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  Speaker 5: I was kind of like, if I... No!
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  Speaker 3: No, you're geared. Hi, this is Jonah Ray from Mystery
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  Speaker 3: Science Theater 3000, The Return, and The Gauntlet.
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  Speaker 5: And the Internet Abroad.
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  Speaker 3: And the Internet Abroad. I have a career because of
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  Speaker 3: the Internet.
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  Speaker 5: So many things. That is what I mean. It's always
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  Speaker 5: been kind of interesting. So I always sort of jump
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  Speaker 5: in at the beginning and try to figure out how
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  Speaker 5: everybody got to where they ended up. With you, I know...
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  Speaker 5: I'm still.
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  Speaker 3: On my way, brother.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we all are. I don't know where we're going,
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  Speaker 5: but we're all heading there. But the... I mean, with
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  Speaker 5: anybody who knows you, even mildly, knows where you were born,
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  Speaker 5: because it's become a good portion of your material. But
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  Speaker 5: how did you get there? Like, your family. Like, how did...
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  Speaker 5: Because you said you weren't military, which is usually what
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  Speaker 5: would lead people to someplace.
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  Speaker 3: No, and you know that... Being from Hawaii, it's something
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  Speaker 3: that I... didn't know how to talk about for a
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  Speaker 3: real long time. Yeah. I didn't have, when I first
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  Speaker 3: started comedy, I kind of tried to talk about it,
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  Speaker 3: but it would just confuse people. And then to say
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  Speaker 3: that I'm not from military, cause that's what they would assume. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: and to try and talk about Hawaii is just tricky
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  Speaker 3: as like a guy who looks as wide as me. Um,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and I, and you still saw me
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to like temper, cause it's like,
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  Speaker 3: I'll do this stuff, you know, uh, like I did,
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  Speaker 3: I was just in Hawaii, uh, back home doing a
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  Speaker 3: set and like, I didn't have to preface any of the.
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  Speaker 5: They know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they know.
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  Speaker 5: They're there.
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  Speaker 3: And it's totally fine because everyone just kind of talks
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  Speaker 3: like that. But like out here, like on the mainland,
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  Speaker 3: I can always feel people kind of tensing up a
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  Speaker 3: bit when they're going, oh, brother, what you going to do?
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  Speaker 3: Like they go, okay.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we've hit a weird line. It's like, yes,
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  Speaker 5: there are many horrible people out there and they're all
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  Speaker 5: racist and close minded. And yeah, that's the world we
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  Speaker 5: live in. But we've also got to the point where
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, sometimes I'm like, but but that's how they talk. Like,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not, we're not making fun of like, we're just
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  Speaker 5: doing an impersonation of, you know, I'm like, there's so
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  Speaker 5: many times when I'm like, you know, so we can't
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  Speaker 5: have a poo running the, cause he has a funny accent,
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  Speaker 5: but like, it's not supposed to be funny. Cause I
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  Speaker 5: don't know. It's, it's, that's always like one of those things. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, and Kumail and I, when we did the meltdown,
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  Speaker 3: we would have those talks a lot. So, you know,
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  Speaker 3: on stage we would talk about like, and like, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: and we would always go to the ridiculous extension of like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, so I can't say that that car's red?
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, no, that's racist. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: but you can. He's like, yes, I can be racist
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  Speaker 3: because I'm not white.
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  Speaker 5: Damn it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and especially with you because it's like. I can't
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  Speaker 5: remember my childhood. Like, you know, like this is what
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  Speaker 5: you grew up. These are your stories. Now I can't
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  Speaker 5: tell my stories or you have to like whiten up
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  Speaker 5: my stories.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I do, I want to, I want to be
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  Speaker 3: honest with it. And I want to like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, and that's the kind of the weird part is, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like my, my dad's side of the family.
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  Speaker 3: So the reason I was born in Hawaii, uh, was, uh,
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  Speaker 3: my dad's side of the family, uh, the Portuguese, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Rodrigues side, Furtado. Um, they've been there for generations. Like,
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  Speaker 3: it's like, I'm thinking I'm, uh, fourth or fifth born
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  Speaker 3: in Hawaii generation on my dad's side.
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  Speaker 5: But do you have your birth certificate?
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  Speaker 3: I have a certificate of live birth. That's what was
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  Speaker 3: so funny about during the Obama era. It says certificate
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  Speaker 3: of live birth. I was like, yeah, dude, that's what
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  Speaker 3: mine says. That's what they say out there.
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  Speaker 5: That means he wasn't dead. That's a good thing. That's
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  Speaker 5: what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 3: But my mom's... Where do I get my skin from?
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  Speaker 3: My mom's family was living in Northern California in a
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  Speaker 3: town called Orland near Sacramento, kind of. And her dad
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  Speaker 3: just loved Hawaii and was trying to figure out a
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  Speaker 3: way to move the family to Hawaii and had a
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  Speaker 3: furniture business with his dad. And then the town started
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  Speaker 3: kind of going down a little bit in the 60s.
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, I want to just try and
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  Speaker 3: figure it out. So he went to Hawaii for a
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  Speaker 3: month by himself trying to look for work and then
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  Speaker 3: found out that they were going to be opening up
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  Speaker 3: a Sears. The first Sears on Hawaii in this huge
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  Speaker 3: mall they were building called Ala Moana.
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  Speaker 5: Um satellite stores that's what we want yeah yeah and
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  Speaker 5: like attach ourselves to the the chain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and like he was like he went out and
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  Speaker 3: he was like uh he's like hey i used to
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  Speaker 3: run a furniture shop and this let me run your
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  Speaker 3: furniture department and they said okay and uh and then
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  Speaker 3: so he moved the family out there my mom moved
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  Speaker 3: out there when she was 12 so did he move.
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  Speaker 5: Back there um so so like did the grandparent left
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  Speaker 5: yeah by the time point to america and That's how he.
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  Speaker 3: Ended up in California? Hawaii is part of America.
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  Speaker 7: Well, no.
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  Speaker 5: The mainland.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So, like, yeah, they were all from California.
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  Speaker 3: Then they moved the whole family over in the 60s.
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  Speaker 3: And then in the late 70s, he moved back. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they moved to California.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just working in this, like, reverse thing that you
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  Speaker 5: do then. It's like, okay, I'm in what you think
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  Speaker 5: is paradise, but I want to go back to California.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know why they– I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's an expensive place to live.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't– I never really check to see, you know,
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  Speaker 3: something I should do. My mom probably knows. I got
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  Speaker 3: to get better at that stuff of asking family, like,
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  Speaker 3: why did this happen? Because I don't want to speculate.
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  Speaker 5: Occasionally, I get weird stories. And I'm just like, wait,
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  Speaker 5: is any of that true? I'll just hear my dad
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  Speaker 5: or my grandmother used to have weird stories. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: is any of this real?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes when they like, it's just they'll see something
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  Speaker 3: that's like an aside. Or it's like, well, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: like when your uncle went to prison for a bit.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, wait, what? When? When did that happen?
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  Speaker 5: You skipped that part when I was growing up. What
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  Speaker 5: the hell?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, we didn't want to tell you. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: um so yeah so like you know i was i
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  Speaker 3: was born and raised there and my you know well
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  Speaker 3: like uh my family on that side that i grew
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  Speaker 3: up with are very very local you know very like
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  Speaker 3: part hawaiian part you know yeah it's like so um
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  Speaker 3: so yeah you know i was i was there and
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  Speaker 3: it was um and i was a big kid so
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  Speaker 3: it was like you know i like it felt like
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  Speaker 3: small to me the island and and especially when i
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  Speaker 3: started getting into music and movies and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: Like it felt, I felt stifled growing up there, especially
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  Speaker 3: cause it's like, you know, it's just, it's just, uh,
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  Speaker 3: it's a great, beautiful place and I love it. Um,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like, there's only so much there. And if
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to just cruise and like go surfing and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, have that kind of life, um, it's not
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  Speaker 3: much for you. And so like, I got the bug
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  Speaker 3: pretty early on that I wanted to leave. Um, And
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  Speaker 3: also it's like all this stuff, like the style of
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  Speaker 3: comedy out there or the style of entertainment was like,
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  Speaker 3: not what I watched. I wanted to be involved. It's
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  Speaker 3: like I was watching Mr. Show and Kissing the Hall
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  Speaker 3: and be like, I want to try and get on
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  Speaker 3: those shows.
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  Speaker 5: See, that's– yeah, that's what I was going to say.
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  Speaker 5: Because again, usually I try to figure out like what
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  Speaker 5: you were into as a kid. So I was wondering
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  Speaker 5: how much more limiting it was because I mean it
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  Speaker 5: was– I was trying to gauge the time frames. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: everybody here by then probably had cable. Yeah, I had cable. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: cable was at least.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was born in 82. And I had cable.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't get a lot of movies. There was one,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Art House Theater, that would show small stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: we had record stores. And bands, some bands would come. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Just to get a trip to Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah sometimes yeah yeah it was like that was always
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  Speaker 3: kind of the thing it was like I saw some
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  Speaker 3: great bands that probably lost a ton of money but
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  Speaker 3: just were like well we'll go out there we'll play
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  Speaker 3: a show and then we'll have some local scene kids
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  Speaker 3: take us around.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and we'll go hang out on the beach for
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  Speaker 5: an extra day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: And fly back.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. And that's kind of what we used to write
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  Speaker 3: to bands, saying, you won't make money, but we'll show
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  Speaker 3: you around. We'll show you a great time. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it just seemed like everything I liked came from the mainland.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess early on, like as a kid, before
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  Speaker 5: you even got to that point, I guess, what were
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  Speaker 5: you drawn to? Was it super geeky stuff, or was
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  Speaker 5: it just mainstream kind of... No, I mean like.
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  Speaker 3: It was it's i don't know because it's like it's
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  Speaker 3: funny because um i remember a long time ago we
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  Speaker 3: were doing a live nerdist and someone asked like how
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  Speaker 3: did you like how what was it like for you
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  Speaker 3: like growing up like being like thinking about being a
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  Speaker 3: nerd and like you know being like and i was
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  Speaker 3: like i was like i never thought about that stuff
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  Speaker 3: that way i like uh that stuff to me wasn't
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  Speaker 3: an identity as much as it was just like what
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  Speaker 3: I liked.
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  Speaker 5: Especially now it is. It is an identity. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: never thought that either. I just now can go back
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  Speaker 5: and go, oh yeah, I was born and raised watching
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  Speaker 5: Star Wars and I love Gilligan's Island. I'm a dork.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But to me that stuff was cool.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't you feel it was cool?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 5: But man, when that giant spider's in the cave, It's
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  Speaker 5: the coolest episode I've ever seen. I'm just like, why
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  Speaker 5: is no one else admiring how amazing this giant spider
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  Speaker 5: is that looks super fake? And that's the best part
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  Speaker 5: about it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of how I felt. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know. You know, I was like, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I was just kind of dumb. I
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  Speaker 3: like this, like, which is kind of the vibe that
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  Speaker 3: people put out now, I feel.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the ironic hadn't really been fully boring. 90s
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  Speaker 5: is starting to be completely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I was just excited. I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, this is cool. And it's even cooler
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  Speaker 3: if you don't know about it. Like, which is like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, proto hipster kind of shit.
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  Speaker 2: But like.
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  Speaker 3: But that's even like outside of bands. That's also movies
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  Speaker 3: and that's also like– That's how it.
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  Speaker 5: Started before everything was mainstream.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: We were talking about that recently that we're just like
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  Speaker 5: how often– like if you go back far enough, when
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  Speaker 5: we were kids, like you couldn't even get like band
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  Speaker 5: shirts or movie shirts.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Like you had to write off– again, you had to
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  Speaker 5: write to California and be like, hey, this one company
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  Speaker 5: is making a shirt with this on it.
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  Speaker 3: Like when Suncoast Motion Picture Company opened up at the
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  Speaker 3: mall near– I worked there.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, nice, nice.
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  Speaker 5: For more years than I need to discuss.
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  Speaker 3: When I saw that at the mall, Windward Mall, I
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  Speaker 3: remember just going like, this is like a blockbuster I
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  Speaker 3: can buy stuff from. And then they had the shirts.
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  Speaker 3: I remember I got Mystery Science Theater shirts. They had three.
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  Speaker 5: I have the hat at home still.
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  Speaker 3: The same one. I had the worst MST shirt ever
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  Speaker 3: made too. It was this big white shirt. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: all the shirts were big. But it was– and then
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  Speaker 3: Crow really big on one side. Like on the right
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  Speaker 3: side and the left side was a big Tom Servo.
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  Speaker 3: size-wise that didn't like match up at all they were
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  Speaker 3: like because they were of equal size i think i.
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  Speaker 5: Remember this i probably put it on hangers.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah and do you remember it was like you're like
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  Speaker 3: like and behind them was this like behind crows like
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  Speaker 3: neon pink and behind servo like neon kind of like
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  Speaker 3: uh like green or something like them yeah yeah there
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  Speaker 3: were some weird choices yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But i remember that i remember walking through them all
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  Speaker 5: and like there was a sign and it said coming
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  Speaker 5: soon sun and i was just like.
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  Speaker 3: This is it.
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  Speaker 5: This is all.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Because I'd seen one before. There was one other. I
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  Speaker 5: was like, this is where, and like, as soon as
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: it opened, I was like, okay, where do I put
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: my application? I need to be here.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: Didn't it remember feeling like it was bigger than something
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: that you know before? Because it wasn't Suncoast Video. It
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: was Suncoast Motion Picture Company.
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: Motion Picture Company. Yeah.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: And didn't that feel like big?
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: It's pretty legit.
• 14:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: We're still putting out movies now.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But it's like, it felt like, I remember just
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: being like, this is, And just, you know, and you
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: don't necessarily choose everything you get into.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: No.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: But I remember just being drawn to it. And then
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: I remember like, I remember just like being so excited
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, the Mystery Science Theater, like
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: to buy those cassettes was like a lot.
• 14:43
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Because it's also like, you know, because that collector thing
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: starts to come and you're like, well, I guess I
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: can get my favorite episodes, but wouldn't it be kind
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: of neat to have all the collection of volume ones
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: and that and the shorts and then. So I never
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: really bought a lot of those. Yeah, I only had
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: a few. Yeah, but I remember the one I got
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: was the Mystery Science Theater, the movie. Because it was
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: like succinct. And I got to see that in the
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: theater too.
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: I did, yeah. I think I got it. I think
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: that was one of the ones I got on DVD.
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: So again, I'm already throwing off my geeky things. Because
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: I had the videos, which again, I think somebody asked
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: you last night what your favorite episode from the old
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: series was. Mine, I did get it. We didn't match up.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Mitchell. Mitchell. Mitchell, you know, Mitchell's up there for me.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I remember I was like, oh man, this is 15
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: years ago, maybe or something like that. But I was
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: like dating a girl and we liked Mystery Science Theater
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: a lot. And like I made some song for her
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: and like the chorus was just, Waka-chicka, waka-chicka, waka-chicka, Mitchell.
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: You got any mace for teachers?
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so it's like, you know, getting into that stuff,
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: just liking it. Because also I loved Weird Al. I
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: thought Weird Al was totally cool.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: No, yeah.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Mel Brooks. And there was a lot of... I'm realizing,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I guess now in a bit, like, a lot of
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: the stuff I liked was entertainment and commentary on entertainment
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: at the same time.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: You know, like, well, Mel Brooks was, of course, parody.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: But he also, like, talked about movie making within the movies.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: At his better version. Because, again, he got to a
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: point of almost doing, like. like just silly airplane like
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: airplane did so well that other people then mimicked it
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: even somebody like mel.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Brooks yeah i felt the same way i think he
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: like saw it and was like oh i should kind of.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: That's space balls like i don't think space balls is
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: great i love the stuff that's in it but i'm
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: like it feels like it's just trying to do an
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: airplane version of star wars and every other sci-fi.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: You know what it feels like to me it feels
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: uh it feels cynical um and mean and it's kind
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: of true because he didn't like star wars yeah he
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: hated the fact that he had to take his kid
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: to it a bunch of times And he didn't understand
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: why it was so huge. And so he came at
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: that from like a negative point of view.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, the marketing segment in the movie is vicious.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Yes. It's like, but you know what he loved? He
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: loved Westerns.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: And then he also, he loved Alfred Hitchcock.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: And you can feel it. Like those don't feel like
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: he's knocking, he's not knocking it off and he's not
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: being mean about it. It's just pure geek love.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: That's the best kind. That's why scary movies aren't good
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: because they're making fun of horror movies as opposed to
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: just like, you know, loving horror movies. And that's my
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: favorite kind of parody. And that's like, I ended up
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: doing a show called Hidden America, which was like, everyone's like, oh,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: you're making fun of Bourdain. I was like, no, here's
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: the thing. I love Bourdain so much. And I wanted
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: to make a funny version of it. Just how like
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Shaun of the Dead, like they loved zombie movies so much.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: And they just wanted to make a funny version of
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: that movie.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: And you can feel it. Again, it's not, because I've
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: seen plenty of cheesy comedies that came out after that,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: making fun of zombie movies. And they were making fun
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: of them. And I'm like, there's nothing in that in
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Shaun of the Dead. Like it is just pure geeks
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: loving their genre.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And like Hot Fuzz. It's like they love
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: those movies. And that shines through. So it's like, you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: with Mel Brooks, like I just was obsessed with Mel Brooks.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I was obsessed with like Hollywood and show business in general.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And that's why I feel so fortunate just because it's like,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you know, I was just shooting a part on a
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: movie right before like a couple weeks ago. And like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: you know, and it's like I'm not the lead and
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: it's great because it's like I don't have a ton
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: of stuff to do, but I'm around.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: You can be like, look, that's me.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like, but I'm like, you know, I have
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: a ton of lines. I'm in most of the scenes,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: but like it's like But I don't have the weight
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: of being the lead.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Which I have to– I had been.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: For– yeah, your shows is like it centers around you.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Everything is about you.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So it was great. And so– and there was like
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: one day where it's like I got in and then–
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: but they were running late. And then there was like–
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: they're shooting stuff and I'm watching. There's a couple kind
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: of action-y moments like just someone getting thrown on the ground.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: That stuff always takes a long time.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: And they're shooting tons of angles and stuff like that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: And then they kind of go late and then they
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: don't get to my scene that day. And they were like,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: we are so sorry. They were so upset for me.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: And I was just like, no, you have to understand.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I love this.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: If you were a different actor, I guess you'd be like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: screw this.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: I'll be in my trailer.
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: I don't have a trailer.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Damn it. But they're paying for your time. That block
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: of time, that's what they're paying for. But it's like,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: cause I love making stuff and I love seeing stuff
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: being made. I love the chaos of a set. You know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: it's a, I've always, I really just am a sucker
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: for like, you know, I was a kid. I had
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: tons of movie posters on the walls and I had
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: like those, that's me. I had the like Charlie Chaplin
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: and Laurel and Hardy, uh, like, uh, clocks. Do you
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: remember those were the legs we go back? Yeah. I,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: there was also like an Elvis one and a Marilyn
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Monroe one. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, I was obsessed
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: with it. Like, like, so like, you know, Mel Brooks
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: did that. And for me, um, Weird Al, like, you know,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: he was playing music, but he was having fun with it,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: and so he was, like, commentating on music and musical tropes.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Especially by the time you get to the nineties. Cause
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: like the, the big novelty period in the eighties there,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: it's like, okay, so that had gone away and he
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: still would consistently have hits, but it was like only
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: the hardcore people were following him still.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: But every once in a while it would pop back up.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: Every couple of years, he'd still have another one that
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: went on the charts.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: It's he consistent.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: His career is amazing.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The longevity. And it's great just cause he's a
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: good guy. And, um, And it's also like, it's one
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: of those things where people like just think about the
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: albums that come out and people go to his shows,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: but you realize it's like, it's like every year almost
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: he does a huge rock and roll tour.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Like it's a band. They're on buses. Like it's like
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: these dudes are, you know, they're in their, you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: little bunks on the buses and they like, it's like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: and they get to the town and they do the soundcheck.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: It's like, they're just a rock and roll band.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: They are.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: So it's a, but like, you know, getting into music
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: and being a fan of music and then like having
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: someone that was also doing comedy. So it's like, Mel
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Brooks and Mystery Science Theater is a great version of
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: this where it's like starting to get into genre stuff
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and older genre stuff. Starting to do the work where
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: you kind of start to go, what else came before me?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: A lot of it was wanting to know what Mel
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Brooks was talking about in some of his older movies.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: That's true. His references go pretty deep because he'd been
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: around so long working in the industry. Yeah. So how
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: early on– because that's another one. I was trying to
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: figure out the cable aspect for Mystery Science Theater. So
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: at that point, you were already– because I started on
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Comedy Central.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I– I remember– We had commercials for
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Comedy Central before it came to our channel. Yeah. It
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: was like MTV would be on. It would be like,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: it's like coming soon to channel 32, Comedy Central. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I remember like, oh, shit. Like it's a comedy channel.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: And they didn't have a lot at the time. So
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: all I would watch was like whatever was on. So
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Benny Hill was on all the time.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Ab Fab.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: They played a lot.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Kids in the Hall. And I remember because we
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: had HBO, so I had known about Kids.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: In the Hall.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd watched that on the first run. And it's
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: funny how much those hold up, too.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because they weren't topical. That's why it's so, like,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: it's like you just watch them and you're like, oh,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: they just made a bunch of weird little art films
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and monologues.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Weird as hell.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, totally. The sausages one? Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: There's so many others I see that I'm just like,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: anybody else that's trying to be this weird, it usually
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: falls flat. there's something about, I think, just how genuine
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: they were about how weird they were, I guess.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Paul Myers, who's Mike Myers' brother, wrote
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: a book, Kids in the Hall, that's just fantastic. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: think it came out a couple years, yeah. But yeah,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: so I remember like, and I was like, watch anything
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: that was on it. And then I remember getting home
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: one time and turning it on and I just saw
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: like a black and white movie. I was like, oh,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: they're playing some old movie. I don't want a comedy show.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Because like, that was a big thing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: You're going to sit here and make fun of this?
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: What the hell?
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, it's like, I didn't notice. I just
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: heard people talking over it. And I thought, And I
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: saw the silhouettes and I thought the TV was broken.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I thought like two channels were happening.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: I feel like every kid probably had that response.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: And then like they go out of the theater. I
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, and then it comes back out. And
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: then I was like, oh, I've seen that guy in
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: SNL reruns and like old Letterman reruns. And I was like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I know that guy. I've seen him do a prop comedy.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And then they did some weird bit. Elmer's always like,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: what was the first episode? I mean, I don't know.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Whose brain?
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Mine were a big blur.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: But it was when they used to run them at
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: like midnight. So I would always be watching it at
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: like the point where I'm half awake. So everything really was.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: But again, like there's the stuff that you attach yourself
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: to like that. Like it's not like you just go
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: to the theater, watch it and you're done and you
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: go home and forget about a movie you watched. Like
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: when you're that immersed in. it becomes part of your life.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: And every night at one in the morning, I'm sitting
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: there half awake watching this because I want to see,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I would always be way more excited when they would
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: leave the movie and go back outside. Which it's always
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: the reverse with so many shows that are like horror
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: hosts or whatever. Usually I'm just like, Oh God, they're
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: going to do another comedy bit.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Just go back to the movie.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: And it was the reverse. It was the reverse for,
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: for mystery science theater. It was like, Oh good. They're
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: going back out. Cause that stuff was even better. than
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: the movie sometimes.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Why often? Yeah, exactly. Cause it's like the movie can,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: you know, even if they're making good jokes, it's a
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: slog to watch some of this stuff. And it's, it doesn't,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't look good a lot of times. Like some,
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: especially it's like they would show like old prints of stuff.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you're like, it's not even pleasing to see.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: That was the thing Joel really wanted with the new stuff.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, I want good prints. Like I
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: want it. We're going to be on white screens on
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: high def. I want the, and like, so he made
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a big effort to get like quality prints of movies
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: for this, these Netflix seasons. But, um, yeah, so it's, uh, uh,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: like watching that stuff was, and it's also, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: like 94 is like, uh, so this is around the
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: same time, probably get like, got into, there was a 92, 93,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: but then 94, Ed Wood came out.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: And like, again, like showbiz movie, you know, like, um.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Which in that vein, have you seen the Dolomite is
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: my name?
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I went to the, I went to a screening. It's
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: so good.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's the same writers, but it's that same vein.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: It's just like, a different group of wacky characters like
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: killing themselves, trying to make this movie.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's what I've been waiting for is another
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Ed Wood. They found it and they nailed it. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: it was exciting too, because it's like, I kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: started to know Larry, one of the writers, just like
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: casually like online. And, and, and, but then my friend Dave,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: who is a locations manager guy, he's a location scout
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: for movies and TV shows. And, and he's like a big, like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: you know, he's a nerd for locations. Like we're in
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Highland park, our neighborhood, which is like an older kind of,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you know, small hipster area. But he was like, hold on.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And there was this old apartment building, but there was
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: these like, you know, bungalows clearly made in the 70s
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: in front of it. He's like, hold on. And then
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: he like looks up on his phone. He's like, yeah, hey, dude,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: that's from City Lights. That's Charlie Chaplin comes out of
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: there in City Lights. And like, I'm like, ah, like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: you know, just so great. But he's worked with a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: ton of different like amazing people. And so when he
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: heard that there was going to be a Dolomite movie,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: like he's like, he's like me and my friends watched
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: like Dolomite and Human Tornado and all that stuff. all
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: the time when he was growing up in Michigan. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: so he was like, he's like, he's like pitched real hard.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: And he's like, he's like, listen, I've worked with Terrence Malick.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I've worked with Christopher Guest. I want to work on
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: the Dolomite movie and like was able to like provide
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: really good locations for me. I think he's up for
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: an award for it too, which is really exciting. So
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: it was like to, and it was a culmination for me,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Ed Wood, my favorite movie of all time. And it's
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: like about just, you know, just doing it, just DIY.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And it like, it also fed into like my punk
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: rock ethos of.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Just, yeah, there, there's such a bunch of misfits. Yes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: And the rest of society, it looks at them.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Like, what the hell are you? And that's every society
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: is Sarah Jessica Parker at the rap party. It's like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you people are making shit.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: So yeah, that's every misfit kid out there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: These guys, these, this is my group right here.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And that's, that's how I felt like, so it was
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: so beautiful. Like I like teared up a bit because
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: it's like, I'm like, there's a new Ed Wood, essentially,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: a movie. And my favorite movie. So there's a new
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: version of it, essentially. And I'm with my friend who
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: worked on the movie. It's all that stuff that I
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: always wanted. And that's what I loved so much about
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: when I got into playing in bands when I was
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: a kid. It was a bunch of people doing stuff
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: just because they love it. And that's what I've been
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: trying to do with everything I've done. That's why I
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: think I shied away from stand-up so much for years,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: where I just kind of maybe did it a little half-assed.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: for a long time because it was so solitary.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: There's not a teamwork effort going on.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: It's like for me, it's, I listened to this interview
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: of Ian McKay from Bugazi, my thread and whatever. And
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: he talked about how it's like music for him has
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: always just been like a way to communicate. And, and like,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: he's like, not just communicate like ideas, but communicate between people,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: between a band and between an audience at a band.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: And like, just to like, it's like, Hey, we're all here.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: We're all doing this thing. We're all part of this thing.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: And that's when he said that I was like, Oh,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: I think that's what I like about, like production bands
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: showbiz stuff it's like you know it's it's just a
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: way this is the way i like to communicate with
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: people like right here we're having like a great conversation
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: which could easily happen just hanging out yeah but like
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: it doesn't normally it doesn't normally no no not too much.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: That's that's one of the same reasons i keep it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: like this is the only time i talk to people
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: like the rest of my life is just whatever yeah
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: yeah exactly so it's like seeking out people that we
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: have kind of just enough common interest to be like
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: okay here we go and like occasionally there's more a
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: little extra but yeah yeah yeah but yeah even like
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: people that are just like are like artists i i've
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: realized is like kind of what i'm drawn to like
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: people that don't have an appreciation for that like i
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: usually don't have anything to talk to you about yeah
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: but if you're just even if you're because that's i
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: always have like visual artists on and i'll bring musicians
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: on so it doesn't even have to be like a
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: movie actor but it's that creativity and that like outlook
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: that like, it's that bond that, yeah, it leads to that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: It's really, it's just, you know, it's, it's my, it's
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: my religion. It's my, like, it's, it's what, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: I get excited about. And, you know, my, my wife
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: will always make fun of me where, when I get
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: real drunk, like, I don't get like sad. I don't
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: get angry. She's like, she's always like, it'll be one
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: of those things where I'm like, how was I last night?
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I know I got, I got a little drunk. She's like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, you know, typical here comes drunk Jonah
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: here to talk about art and friendship. It's just the
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: drunk philosopher.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: It's just sappy. Artistic and savvy.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: It was the greatest thing ever.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: But I love it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: It's like, we're all here. We're just doing it. We're
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: all doing our best. And then we're friends. And we're
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: also doing stuff. And that thing you did was so cool.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: And I'm so glad you came to my thing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: See, I wish more people had that attitude. That's usually
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: not how it goes.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: But everyone, you need those sharks in the water.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Just to balance it out.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That's another thing about the stand-up scene that
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, so many, like the competition aspect between guys.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: And that's why I always... Stayed away from the clubs,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: like the comedy clubs.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: And just like the sniping and the, you know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: That's the thing. And it's funny, the people that I've
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: talked to that are more successful, maybe this, I'm saying
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: that pretend. it's funny that they're usually really cool and
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: really like laid back and the people that are up
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: and comers are like just horrible what little time I've
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: been around and I'm like maybe this is why they're
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: making it because they're good to people and you're kind
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: of being an asshole.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: And everyone's scared and that's all it really comes down
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: to it's like That was always my take on things.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Like the past few years as I get older, it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: like I kind of go, oh, like I reacted this
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: way or I was this way because I was scared.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: And it's almost kind of like Kamala says a joke
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: where it's like– we talked about this on stage. Like
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: our theory is that like so much– so many– there's
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: so many bad people and there's so many bad things
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: that happen in the world because people are scared or dehydrated.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Because everyone needs to like– it's like be less scared
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: and drink more water.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Here, just we'll hand out water.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Um but uh yeah it's uh you know that stuff
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: is um it's it's there it's there in any kind
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: of business because there's when there's money involved and that's
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: that's the thing that kind of that's the corruptor.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: And that yeah i mean that is the hardest part
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: to deal with with being an artist is because it
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: still completely has to be run by money unless you're
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: just sitting in your basement doing what you want to
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: do which is fine but if you even try to
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: just barely market yourself it becomes okay now how do
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: i oh yeah how can i afford to keep doing
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: this how do i afford to take this somewhere and
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: show it to other people and hopefully they'll give me
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: money yeah like no it's it's.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Tough like there's times where i kind of just go
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: maybe i'll i don't know maybe i'll just back it
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: up and go be a bartender somewhere uh because i
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: like you know because i like talking to people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: It's good to have a fallback plan yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah and um because it's a lot of hard work
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: and it's scary because it's like you know you you
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: build yourself up and you have this narrative in your
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: head about what your career is and you go, you know, like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: it's like, well, if I stop now, people are going
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to go, he probably almost just hit it big, but
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: he didn't have the follow through.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: You were close to your shot, but you didn't do it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: And this is like in like, you know, 2002 is
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: when I started. So, you know, in a few years,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: it's going to be 20 years when I started doing stuff.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, like, Is it, you know, like,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: what's the, it's, I always, you know, my friend, all
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: comics always have, like, they'll say, like, you know, Rodney
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Dangerfield and all that kind of stuff. But, like, the
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: one I'm looking at right now is, I was like, well,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you know, Nick Offerman was, like, around forever. Like, he
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: was around for years and years and years and years.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I think I had him on one time. And I
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: was like, and I'm referencing movies, but I'm like, you're still, like, you're, like.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: mid thirties in this movie. And this is early on
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: for you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: And it was, and it wasn't until he got the
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: part on parks and rec that just, he became an icon.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Cause I'm the one going, remember when you were in
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: that werewolf movie and you've got like one line and
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, kind of.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Jeff Garland has tons of those too.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Like weird little, Yeah, he was around forever before, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: now he's on a sitcom.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: You never know when it's going to kick in, I guess.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I always have this hit thing in my
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: head where I'm like, and not to say that I
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: don't feel successful. I know I've gotten to do a
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: ton of stuff, but when one of your best pals
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: is currently shooting a Marvel movie.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: He almost made it. He got so close. He got
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: to Marvel, but he couldn't really break through.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: He didn't also do DC.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: If you just signed on with Disney +, your whole
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: world will come together.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:40
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• 33:46
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• 33:50
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• 34:03
  Speaker 5: Don't you guys like horror?
• 34:05
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• 34:06
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• 34:11
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• 34:44
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• 34:46
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• 34:49
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  Speaker 7: That's part of your problem, you know.
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  Speaker 11: I've got this epic problem.
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• 40:00
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah um i think we've digressed quite a
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: bit but uh well.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: That's that's kind of what i was because you've you've
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: crossed over now into so many things as you were
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: getting into it did you have a plan like you
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: because you started i guess the most functional thing would
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: have been bands early on so.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean i was i was playing punk band
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: hawaii and i i came out to la and i
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: wanted to like I wanted to be in showbiz.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: So you really didn't have a specific.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I wanted to act and I wanted to direct and
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I wanted to do comedy. I wanted to be like...
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: As a kid, I was just like, I want to be...
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Of course, I'm like Mr. Sensator, but it was gone.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: So I was like, I want to be on SNL.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: And I went to a Groundlings entry course to see
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: where you start off in their classes. And I was
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: so– like I thought I was going to be surrounded.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I thought I was going to finally find my people
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: where I was like, oh, what's your favorite SCTV sketch?
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: And someone just going, I don't know, man. I'm here
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: because my agent said I need to take improv. I go, oh, okay. Oh, hey,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I've seen you in a ton of TV stuff. What
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: are you doing here? He's like, I don't know, man.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: The work– his business sucks.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I go, uh-oh. So you hear about that when you
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: get those old ones and it's like, they'll name off
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: the like six or eight people that were like all
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: in the groundlings at the same wave. And you're like, well,
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: they were all like, and they became best friends and
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: they were all on stuff together. So yeah, you're hoping
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: for that. And instead you get everyone that doesn't give
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: a shit about the industry.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And there was probably like a good handful
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: of people there that didn't really talk to me or
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I didn't talk to him cause we were scared.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: That's, that's a pretty, pretty heavy, uh, vein running through
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: all these stories.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Um, but, uh, you know, that's why I love the movie, uh,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: defending your life.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Just cause it's all about like, it's like, did you
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: live a life without fear?
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: That's, I mean, that's him in general. Like he's got
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: so much of that running through him that like in
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: so many movies of his that you get how afraid
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: he is to do anything.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's what's, it's a, it's almost my wife's kind
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: of favorite, um, her favorite aspect of any of the,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: like Joseph Campbell stuff. She was like, the refusal, refusing
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the call to action. And she's like, that's always my
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: favorite part of any story. And that's why there's a
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: movie starring Crispin Glover called Bartleby. I know of it.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: And it's like, no matter what the task is, it's like, Bartleby,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: can you go and grab a thing? And he's like, ah!
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: He takes it like it's someone asking him to do
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: a quest. And he can't do it If someone asks
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: him to do something, he can't take that call to action.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so it's like I really thought– and so–
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and I got bummed out where I just kind of
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: like– I was like maybe I was wrong about doing
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: this stuff. I thought I wanted to do– I thought
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: like comedy would be my entry into TV, into movies,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: into directing. And then– I just kind of lived in Pedro.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I knew some people in punk bands down in San Pedro,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: and I just kind of hung out and drank there
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and roadied for bands and kind of played with some bands.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: And I was sad. I was sad because I moved
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: out here, and I didn't do the thing that I
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: moved out to L.A.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: For.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Which happens to a lot of people.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: There's only so many that really do. And you do
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: get– because I've seen people that, like, move away. And
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: then four years later, they're back again. And it didn't
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: work out.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: The whole L.A. thing does– not for me, man. It
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: didn't work out.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Which I think is true, actually. I think the ones
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: that come back, that's probably not– I mean, if you
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: were going to follow through with it, you would have
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: done it. But you're back here now. So it probably
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: isn't really for you.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: And sometimes it really works out. Like– like Zach Alphanack
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: is like, he had like a show in VH1 and
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: like it flamed out. And then he moved to, he
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: moved back to South Carolina or North Carolina. He moved back. Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: And like, um, and then that's like stuff started picking up.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Nate Bargatze, he like was living in LA for a bit.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: And then like, he was just like, he's like, he's like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I fucking hate this place. And like, so he moved
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: back and just like hit the road. And now he's
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: like a huge, he's like one of the big guys now.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: It's like him and John Mulaney are like, it's like,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a, like the news you know the
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: new crowd of you know like big comics and and
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: you know those that that happens sometimes people like move back.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: Especially now because everything shifted even by the time you
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: were there it was still pretty focused of like you
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: know if you're going to these careers you go to
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: la if you're going to these you go to new
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: york that's pretty much it yeah you can maybe fall
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: to chicago and maybe be marginally successful like there was
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: no other options like Where now every town has a
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: version of what's going on and everybody can kind of find, hopefully,
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: where they fit into that little part of it. Even
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: if you're a smaller cog in a smaller machine. One
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: of the directors I talked to here in town left
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: and then within six weeks was back shooting a movie
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: again in my town. And I was like, wait, what?
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: did you know? Cause I was started seeing him post
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: pictures like, wait, so now you're back here shooting a
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: movie again.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: That's incredible.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: It's so, yeah, everybody's got this weird little market now that,
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: that just did not exist 20 years ago.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: It's neat. And I, you know, it's a big part
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: of that I think is just a New York and
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: LA pricing, smaller productions out of being able to shoot there.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And then like all these, you know, towns and States
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: just going, shit, if we just give them some discounts,
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: they'll come out here. So then that's, Atlanta blows up.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Nashville starts to get more stuff. Louisiana, Minneapolis.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Austin kind of always was, but it became even bigger
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: once they realized how much they could do.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: When tech moved in then, there was just a lot
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: of VC guys. I was like, I'll pay for your movie.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Like you said, that's the thing me and my wife
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: talk about a lot. We love LA, but there's always
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: that thing of just like, I don't know, Austin.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: There's a lot of other options now.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: There are, yeah.
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: So that, yeah, I think especially, you know, now that
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: so much of it's internet based too, it's like even
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: as specifically a musician, but as a comedian, like you
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: can find other ways to spread the word about yourself.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: It doesn't always work because the internet is overwhelmingly, again,
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: my constant reference is it's an ocean.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: You just throw your. A little teacup of whatever it
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: is you're doing out there.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Most of the time it's lost. But it can work
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: out sometimes.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: It can. It can. And it's always a fluke when
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: it happens. It's good. A lot of people work hard.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: A lot of people have a great particular voice. It
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: just depends on if it gets seen. And you can't.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: There's so much out of your control.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: You can't force anything. Again, you can't make a viral video.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: No, exactly.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: You're never going to– no matter how hard you want
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: it to be, it doesn't work that way.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Just think about all the tweets you see that blow
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: up and then people going, whoa, this really blew up.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It's like people– Yeah, duh.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: That's how it works.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: That's how it works. It's like– and then you look
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: at the other tweets. You're like, that is good. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: It's like some people can– and that's always the big
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: thing about being a comedy writer. It's like– and people,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: it's like– It's like, you know, like, this guy's really brilliant.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Why doesn't he get more work as a comedy writer?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, it's because as a comedy writer, you
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: have to just be able to, like, deliver consistently all
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: the time. As opposed to just having these strokes of
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: brilliance where you make a thing and everyone's like, this
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: is amazing. You know, so it's really, I don't know,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: the whole thing is tricky. But, like, the reason I
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: even started doing stand-up was just because it was, it
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm in L.A. and I can't figure out
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: how to get involved.
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Like, it's just this giant orb, and I don't see
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: an entrance. And some of them are, like, real high up.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know. I didn't go to school.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to college. You know, I don't know
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: how to– what, mailroom? I don't know.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: That's where you start.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And UCB wasn't out there yet. And I even
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: had these ideas of maybe, like, maybe I'll go to
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: New York and go to UCB. Maybe that's the one
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: that's– you know. And so I just– I was like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: what if I just– what if it was– like stand up.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: What if I just went and like, cause like, it's like,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I can go to a coffee shop and sign up
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: for an open mic and then I'm on stage and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: then like, holy shit, I just found this back entrance
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: into the world of showbiz. And, and it was, I
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: was like, I was like, cause that's, you're doing it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden you're in LA and you're performing.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: Does the scale.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: It is a show regardless. Whether it's you and five
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: people sitting in there or you're at a stadium.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: It's still your show.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So you're just, you kind of just like,
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay. And then it like, it
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: kind of, I got an okay response and I kind
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: of got the bug and it just kind of, I
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: kept on following that thing. And I always kind of
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: follow these tracks and, you know, like I got into
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: like writing for like, I got, you know, got into
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: comedy writing and then some stuff happened. But then like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: I remember I was writing for a show at G4
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: and then, like because G4 and E networks were like,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: you know, like the same network essentially, just different channels,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: different content, but same production.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: All the same big companies.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: Which is what keeps happening more and more.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Comcast, which was bought by Universal, which was
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: bought by, and so on and so forth. But like,
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: I remember like, I knew how to like produce and
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: direct bits and write stuff and I was doing it
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: for comedy at G4 and then someone was like, hey,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: we need someone to like, we need someone funny to do,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: to produce stuff This E's 50 most insane celebrity oops countdown.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I didn't have any work coming up.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: So I was just like, yeah, I'll do it. Like,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: you know, sure. And it's a miserable experience.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Like i had to sit in a room next to
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: a camera and pointed out like cory feldman and be
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: like hey what do you.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry yeah i've seen enough of him to know
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: that yeah no that's no fun.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: It's no fun and then like it's like and then
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: like andy dick and like it's all these people and
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: you're just like asking just you know just like.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: What do you think of going down the list That's
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: how all of their shows were really. So it's got
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: to be an editing nightmare more than anything.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: And it is.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: And that was a huge process. And I had to
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: sit in with that. And I remember just being miserable
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: and just like, all right, well, we're talking about Tiger Woods,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: having that girl come over to have an affair with him.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Corey Feldman makes like a pizza man delivery joke. So
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: let's do a ding dong sound. And then we'll do
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: like a pizza wipe. We'll have a pizza roll by.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: And then that's how we'll swap over to– queer film
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: because you're just trying to figure out how.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: To now we're in reality bites hold on yeah.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah exactly.
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: Cheesy producer mode hold on i can make this work.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah and like i was and it was just like
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of that where i'm like i okay what
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: about this um which is a fun part of any
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: production is just the constant puzzle solving yeah um and
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: that's that's always fine like uh but.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: Where had you picked all that up was that just
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: from comedy writing or.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: From comedy writing and then um Making videos with my
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: friends Peter Tensio and Neil Mahoney and just kind of
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: like– we made this web series called The Freeloader's Guide
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: to Easy Living and like we just– like we wanted
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: to layer as much weird comedy on top of it
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: as we could. And so that's kind of how I
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: started getting a mind for– That stuff.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: But again, the industry changing just like you're right on
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: that crest of it each time of like because you
• 50:59
  Speaker 5: even 10, 15 years before you wouldn't have had the
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: technology to be able to do that.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Right at that point, you can already like because that's
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: so much that has changed in the industry. It's like
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: back in the olden days, you know, you couldn't make
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: your own anything. Like you had to sit around and
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: wait for some billionaire to green light this whole project
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: to put all these people into play.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Now you can just pick up your phone.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: Now you just do it yourself.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I always think about this a lot. It was like
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: 2002 in the comedy scene where the M-Bar scene, which
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: would eventually become known as Comedy Bang Bang. And it
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: didn't have a name yet. It was just this Tuesday
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: nights at the M-Bar. And it was my generation, my
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: little scene of like open micers that we kind of
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: got folded into. you know these this these guys from
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: mr show and whatnot like it's a and it was
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: uh it was me it was morgan murphy who's now
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: like like a huge time writer showrunner um uh and
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: she was there part of that scene uh it was
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: uh dan mince who does tina and buzz burgers and
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: it was bj novak uh and it was um uh
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: and he was hanging out but it was uh alan
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: yang uh who would go on to uh make um
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Master of None with a Z's and stuff like that.
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: But like, it's like, but they're all Harvard friends. This
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: is your, your UCB kids.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: It just took a few extra years.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: But you know what the weird thing is about that
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: is that like, I still felt, I didn't feel like
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I was a part of that. Cause I, like, I
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: remember we were all at, after Nova Mike, everyone was
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: talking about college and like, and they're like, where'd you go?
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't. And they're like, oh, that's cool, man.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: And I was like, no, I know we're all, we are,
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: We're all at the same pizza place after the same
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: coffee shop open, Mike.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: We all did the same show. Do you think everybody
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: felt– I mean do you think– go back in time
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: and Farley sitting there going, I don't know. One of
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: these days I'm going to amount to something.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I think everyone has that fear.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I was even– I'm buds through music with Chris Candy,
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: who's John Candy's son. But he's like a big ska guy.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: And like we were hanging out because his band– when
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: I was in Hawaii, his band, the Bruce Lee band
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: with Mike Park, like they were playing in Hawaii. And
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: so we were chatting and then we're just like– because
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: he does some acting stuff. He does music. He kind
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: of went to school for music production and like– but
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: we're– and we're all just talking about careers and whatnot.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: And he talked about– he's like, yeah, even like– I
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: remember my dad like even shortly before he died was
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: just like stressing out about what his next job was
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: going to be. I was like, John Candy?
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: Like– That is one of those, I just was listening
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: to something and they were talking about how much we
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: probably missed out on that. Like, he was getting to
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: the point of getting kind of into dramatic roles.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: And it's like, we kind of missed that, like, second
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: wave that he would have had. Like, when, so again,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: when like Tarantino cast him in something or, you know,
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: he gets this big push to be a dramatic actor
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: because he had it in.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: He was so talented.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think it's, I mean, it's
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: a totally different situation. Like, it's like, I was gonna
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: say like, Chris Farley, I think, could have became one
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: of the best dramatic actors. There's a lot of darkness
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: in there. Yeah.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: No surprise.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. He just shoved it all too much in there.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: But you can't compare them because one was a heart
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: attack because he smoked cigarettes.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: And a very different approach to the industry. John was
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: so sort of traditional about it versus the rock star
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: life that Farley went through.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. The bad boys of SNL era.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Um so yeah it was uh it was it's everyone's
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: kind of like yeah but it's like that whole scene
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: i remember um you know we're all there and they're
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: like you know bj nova everyone knew bj bj like
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: a joke that jared grody made about bj novak was
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: um bj novak came to hollywood with just the shirt
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: on his back and the directions to the staff writing
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: job on a network sitcom helps a little yeah they're
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: all harvard lampoon guys but uh me and mince became
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: real good pals because he's from Alaska. We're like, Hey,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: freak state guys, you know? Um, and, but, uh, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: remember I was like, we were all hanging out. I
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: was like, Oh, we should make a video. This is
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: like 2002, 2000. I was like, we should make a video.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: And they're like, we could do a thing. We'll show
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: it at like the M bar show. Like, it's like,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: we'll make a sketch or something like that. And like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: BJ's like, what? I was like, he's like, why? How,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: what would we do with it? I was like, yeah,
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: we could, I like, I have a friend, I think
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: it is a projector and I can get some, like
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: a sheet and we can put it up and we
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: can project it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: This is very high tech.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Uh, some foam cores and like that. And like, uh,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: he was like, he was like, but then you just
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: show it once and then that's it. I was like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know. And then I, I think about all
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: the times I wanted to make videos and I didn't.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: And then YouTube came out and I, and I was like,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: I would have had to catch on. I would have
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: had like, like a handful of videos to just drop
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: immediately on this thing.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: And at the beginning when there wasn't much else, you
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: could have been getting half of the viewers cause they
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: don't have anything else.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so I just kind of was like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: I did end up making a video. Like I was
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: making a, Neil Honey and BJ Porter, who was a
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: mystery show writer, was helping us out with it. But
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: it was– and like our friend Kulop is in it.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: It's a good time. But it was a whole thing
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: where I'm doing stand-up on stage and then like some
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: guy heckles me and I go, hey, hey, man. I
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: was like, please don't do that. He's like, well, try
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: to be funny. I was like, I mean my friends
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: think I'm pretty funny. He's like, what do you mean?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, I don't know. Maybe if we
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: were friends, you'd like my set more. He's like, so
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: should we go hang out? I go, yeah, let's go.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: And then we walk out and then a video starts
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: of like us hanging out to Do You Believe in
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Love by He Will Listen to the News. And then
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: like we come back in like arm in arm and like,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: we did it. We made a friend tonight. But like, yeah,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: it was like– but like it was– the video starts
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: with us specifically leaving out of the M Bar. So
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: it was just like we couldn't do it anywhere else
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: and we had already done it to that audience. So
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: like Novak was right in that regard.
• 56:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a way to make it work. He just
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: needs to open his mind.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: Get on board. Come on. He'll never come out to anything.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: But so I was always very much more comfortable making
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: videos and stuff like that. Like, you know, sending in
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: an edit bay after. You know, because editing stuff you've
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: done is basically the best form of time travel. Because
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: it's like you can go back. You can't physically interact
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: with anything, but you can manipulate the events.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: You can manipulate quite a bit, actually.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: You can drop a sandbag on some bullies. Mm-hmm.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: So then I definitely wanted to get to, and I
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: know you've brought this up a lot, but specifically where
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: you ended up and how a lot of people know
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: you if they weren't into the comedy scene, the mystery
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: science theater thing. I mean, you got it. It's the
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: blessing and the curse because you got to do the
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: greatest thing ever.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, every geek in America and
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: the world over, I feel like was like.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: That son of a bitch. Oh, yeah. So many.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: Everyone in life.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: So many of the first interviews I had to do
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: after it was announced was just like, okay, well, before
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: we get started, you took my dream job. I was like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: I didn't take anything.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: It's your fault.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: It's, I knew, and I knew it. I knew it
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: was going to be, like, it's like when Joel asked me,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: it was a dream come true. And then, but I
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: got so scared.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: But how could you say no, really?
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: I would never say no.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: It's literally what I always, like, you know.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: Even if it goes down in flames, you'll be like, hey,
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: there was three guys in a jumpsuit.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: I was one of them.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: So, screw all you guys.
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: And so, like, when does this go out?
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: Within a week or so.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Okay. Because on Tuesday. Probably not before. Okay. Okay, great.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: So Tuesday they're announcing that Netflix isn't picking up another season.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: So it will have already been announced by then.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. But you got to scoop. And I beg
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: you to not tell anybody. I don't want this behavior.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: But it is something.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's interesting because. That, you know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: they're announcing that. We've known for a bit. And a
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: lot of it has to do with, like, that Netflix
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: was getting rid of everything they didn't own.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: That's what I was going to say. They've lost, I mean,
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: of their own hand. They've dumped a bunch of stuff
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: that they, even some of them that they did create.
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: And then, like, again, they're becoming a network now. Because
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: that's what the networks would do. Be like, six episodes,
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: cut it, got to go. They're getting to the point
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: that they're so big, they're such a huge machine that
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: they're just dropping stuff.
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Even letting it find its audience.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And so I would have loved to do
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: one more, and who knows where it might end up.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of options. There's a lot of options.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: I've been begging them. I was like, let's go to Shudder.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: We can stream an episode live. Not like shoot it live,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: but stream it live right after a Joe Bob episode.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's tons of bad horror. You can do
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: a whole season of nothing but horror.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And they've got tons of weird genre stuff there, too.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: It's funny because that was always the big drop-off between Joel.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: Joel grew up in a time where all the shitty
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: movies that were playing on TV were sci-fi.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: Uh, I grew up in an era where all the
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: shitty movies playing on TV all the time were horror.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: There's a lot to choose from in both.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's, yeah.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Um, but, um, but you know, so with it, you know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: kind of being done, um, I feel really proud of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: like where we got to with that last scene, last
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: season specifically, because I, I look at my performance in the,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: in the return, the first season we did season 11,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: And I like, like I said, like I look scared.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Like it's like I see like this guy like that
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: just is like pretty scared. I remember like I was
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: like stress eating a ton. So it was like getting
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: kind of big at that time. Let out the jumpsuit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: We only have a couple of these.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Stop. The slimming yellow jumpsuit. Yeah, just the– and then
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: like looking at like the stuff I did. in the
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: second season where i was like i was like oh
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: it's like all of us were a lot more comfortable
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: we all of us settled in a lot more um
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: you know everything happened so fast on the first one which.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: I think you need like again look at the the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: original run of it like those early shows are clunky
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: as hell yeah yeah yeah so like you see them
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: when they get to the season four and five and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: they really kind of found.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Their stride yeah exactly.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: So it's yes they all kind of need.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: That yeah but i was you know i was i
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: was really like it's like i knew there was going
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: to be a lot of hate coming my way because
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: i'm a part of the you know the community that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: is if it wasn't me.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: I would have hated the guy what have i been doing.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: This whole time it's like also it's like uh like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: my favorite thing is when people go like how did
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: you how did you joel find you or pick you
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: for this thing i was like uh i'm not sure
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: if it was just a fate or i don't know
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Three seasons of a Comedy Central show. It's just like–
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: That's what.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: I always say. It's like, yeah, it is a lot
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: of luck, but it only works, the luck part of it,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: when you've been working at it and you have something
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: to back it up so that when you get that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: chance because of luck, you're just like, oh, hey, look,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: I got these chops that I've been working on for years.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's why it you know it pays off when
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: you get that break of like hey I do actually
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: want to try to do another.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Season yeah yeah I would love to just like you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: know really really like nail another one and we'll see
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: but I really like that I really am really proud
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: of the gauntlet I like I think the I like
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of jokes that I was able to sneak
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: in there like I snuck in a Suspiria reference you
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: know like there's like a I have a Suspiria reference
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: and a and a Freddie reference like back to back
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: like a Matthew Barney joke we have in there like
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: it's like I got like, um, you know, in like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Atlantic Rim, I have a smash mouth, like somebody, like,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: it's like, it's like, there was a ton of stuff
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: that like, I was really proud of getting in there.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: And then also the becoming better friends or just, you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: become better friends with like Hampton and Baron, who I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: was already friends with for a long time, but like
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: having this thing now that we did.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: Again, you're, you're the team. Yeah, exactly. It's all come together.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Getting to meet Rebecca Hansen, who played Cynthia was really great. Um,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: And then really just, like, it's, like, a really cool
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: thing about it, too, is the friendship. Because I knew
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Felicia casually, you know, but, like, I, like, you know,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: now consider her, like, a really close friend. And it's, like,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: that's the kind of stuff that I, when I look
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: back on these things... And, like, and then work with Joel,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: of course. All that stuff, you know.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: But, like, it's, like, I just think about the friendships
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: and the relationships because those will always last longer than
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: the actual thing.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: And that's always kind of the case.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Like, that's what you take with you when you're done.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Like, everybody else can watch the show, but you've got
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: a whole separate little, like, plane of existence.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, like, yeah, Felicia and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: I just, like, it's, like, I just, I'm really, I'm, like.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: The more I get to know her, the more I'm
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: blown away by her resolve and her talents. We just
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: did a project together, something that will come out next year.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: I was just like, oh, I get it now. I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: was just like, oh, she's like the nerdy girl thing.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: And I thought she was amazing in Mr. Science Theater.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: But she always like created everything.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: She went from having like bit parts here and there
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: and then went, well, screw this. I just want to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: do my own thing. So that's what I always thought
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: was amazing. And now there's a guild outfit.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: Her guild outfit is in the Smithsonian.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah. It's like the thing that she made that like
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: she built from nothing and like the fans found it.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Which again is like you never know if it's going to.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And she didn't.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: But with her, yeah.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And then the, and then the league ripped
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: it off for the first season. So, yeah. Um, it,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: it was, you know, with Joel, you know, we met
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: when he was on the, I guess on the Nerdist podcast.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: And then we ran into each other a couple more
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: times that week and he was in town.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: At like different, like one was like a Wayne White, uh,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: like a screening of like his movie Beauty is Embarrassing
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: that Joel like did moderate. And I was like, oh shit, Joel's,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I was like, hey, he's like, oh, hey man.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: You know, like, uh, He's like, you like Wayne White?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I think it's incredible. And then, like,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: the next day, I just happened to swing by, you know, Harmontown,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Harmontown taping, because I was, like, doing a set, something
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: on the outside of town. I was like, I'll just
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: swing by and see who's up, who's hanging out. And
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: he was like, hey, are you following me, man?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: So, again, it is.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Luck kind of completely coming into play.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just, I think.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: But then all the rest of it kicks in.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: And he was just, oh, you know these guys, too? And, like,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: I think it just, those three times, it was like, knock, knock, knock, like. Um,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: I stuck in his head and then we just like
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: started becoming friends. Like, you know, like he was, he
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: was like, Hey, he had to present something, some award, uh,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: at some thing in LA. So he's like, Hey, I'm
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: going to come out a day early. Would you want
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: to like get together and help me write jokes for
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: the presentation? And I was like, I was like, sure. Yeah,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I know. I was like, of course.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: And I, yeah, I was on a bus with that
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: dude now for like, you know, like last two years
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: or a ton of the time. And, uh, you know, uh,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: that's insane to me. And then, and then it's just also,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: I did, I wasn't sure. I thought I kind of,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: and I, I say this with, you know, like a
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: lot of humility. I really thought that like, I was like, wow,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be the lead on a Netflix show.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: This is it.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Here's the thing.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, you never know. And you know, like it
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: all kind of becomes the, as you said, the journey's
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: not over.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But I really thought, cause like, I remember
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: when my, My agents and managers, I was like, I
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: really like to do more stuff. And they're like, well,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: you got to just self-generate stuff. And I was like, okay.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: And then I sold– we did three seasons of Meltdown
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: with Jonah Kumail and Comedy Central. I did two seasons
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: of Hidden America, which was like a dream come true
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: to do that show too. And then like two seasons
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: of Mystery Science Theater 3000. And then I did that
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: tour and I got back. I was like, huh? Did
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: the thing you asked about. I made six seasons.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: Look at all these things I've made.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then they were like, so what are you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: going to do now? I'm like, damn it.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: You were supposed to be working on that part.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And then like the real like reality knock was
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: like– and then like two weeks later my dad died suddenly.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: And it was just like– I was like.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: All right.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: And then so I really feel like I'm just now
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: coming out of the muck.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Like this year was like the year after, you know,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: just– drinking, processing, and living in this new portion of
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: my life. And then this year was not a lot
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: of work, but I did a ton of stuff. I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: put out that Weird Al covers thing. I directed a
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: bunch of music videos for bands I like. And none
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: of it was bringing in money, but all of it
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: was very kind of getting back down to.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: It's what you needed.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Getting back down to the work. Did you see... Oh,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: where'd you go, Bernadette? The last Linklater movie?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: No, actually, I saw the trailer and it looks really good.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: You know, it's okay. It's a little choppy for Linklater.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: It almost felt like, it felt like later day Cameron Crowe.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: Almost, with its kind of storytelling. And it's also set
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: in Seattle, which is also kind of a Cameron Crowe thing.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: But the performances are great and there's a lot of
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: great moments in it. But it's like, you know, she
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: plays this character that's really manic and she's an architect
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: and she hasn't like made anything in a really long time.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: And she's, so she's focusing too much on all this
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: shit that doesn't matter and being irritated by stuff. And
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: it's a, it really becomes about this journey of like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: her trying to find the thing. Like, and then she like,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: you know, she was so afraid of doing it again
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: that she does it. And then she's like, and then
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: everything turns around. Cause it's like, you know, I think
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: there's a scene in where Lawrence Fishburne saying like, he's like,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: You're an artist. You're a creative type. If you don't
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: let that out, it destroys you.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: It's like my friend, I remember we were talking once
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: and he's like, why don't– because he was kind of
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: bumming out. He's like just left another coffee shop job,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: his 70th one. He's like, why did you do stuff,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: this stuff? We were both into the same things. Why
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: did you do it and I didn't? I was like–
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: because I really honestly felt like if I didn't, I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: would die. And so– And I.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: Think that's the difference of the people that make it
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: and get to do things and the people that don't
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: and just go get another dumb job. I think it's
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: the dividing line.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like any– and if it makes you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: famous or you can make a living off of it.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: that's great but like it's like it's like there's a
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: ton of stuff i do that doesn't make me any
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: money oh yeah and it doesn't further anything you know
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: it's just i do it because i i have to
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: because it's fun.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah and it's again it's getting you through what you
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: need to do yeah artistically as well as personal.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah and so like you know now i'm like
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: I decided like, kind of like last, just like, just,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: you know, earlier this month, a couple months ago, I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: was like, you know what? I've always wanted to do
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in Scotland. It seems crazy.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: It seems like a bad idea. It seems like a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: terrible idea.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: For people who don't know, it's like, it's this gigantic
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: arts and comedy festival in Edinburgh, which is, you know, like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: In Scotland. And it's, you do a show a night
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: for 30 days straight.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Once you're there, you're there.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: You're there.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: You're immersed in it.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: And you do the same show every night. And it
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: just seems insane. And there's, it's not available on any
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: official sites, but on YouTube you can still find it,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: which is the one where Hannibal, Hannibal Buress goes. And
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: it's just like, you kind of see him, like, it's like,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Like a week and a half in, he's like, oh, man.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: How did I get myself in here?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: But it seems like– so now, like, because I have
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: this goal in mind and, like, I'm just– so I'm
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: able to kind of, you know, just go– like, now
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I can start going and running these shows. Instead of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: just being like, oh, I'm just kind of doing comedy,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: maybe to make a couple bucks or, like, and now
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, I want to put together a show.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: I want to put together a set, like a solid set.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: And then also, like, the stuff you saw last night,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: that was, like, Like I'm trying to talk about me
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: more as opposed to like jokes that will get me
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: a late night set. And so it's like I'm– and
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: then that's like me navigating talking about my family and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: my upbringing and stuff like that. And that's nothing new comedically.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: But for me, it is. And so it's like I'm
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: starting to do a thing where I approach like I
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: think of a challenge. And then that's nothing. I've usually
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: been real reluctant to any kind of effort.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 5: There's always been an element of that to what, what
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 5: I've seen of your standup. I think there is at
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: least a very genuine version of you in the middle
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: of that. Even if you're working in jokes that you
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: feel like are just jokes, I feel like there is
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: still like a version of you that's kind of coming
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: through with it.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: So now you're just.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 5: Putting it in the front of the, you're just shoving
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: it out front.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, it's like, I mean, I even like, like,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: it's like, cause I, like I did some of the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: like jokey jokes, like, and like, it's just like, They're
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: just jokes. But I love them so much. So I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: feel like I was just like, well, I'm not going
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: to flesh out the Parkinson's joke. You don't really need to.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: The only reason it works is because it lands the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: way it does.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's so dumb. Because it's kind of a
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: pun joke. Just to let the listeners know, the joke
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: is I was driving down the street and I saw
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: a mechanic shop called Sons and Park. And I was like,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: that's where you usually put the family name first. Then
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: I realized I was going to want to take their
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: car to a place called Parkinson's. They got a shaky
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: business model. Sometimes I'll tell you, I go, it's okay
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: for me to make fun of Parkinson's. It's because I
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: don't know anyone with it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: So it's fine.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it doesn't bum me out. I'm sure one
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: day I will, and then I'll feel bad.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: Well, and then you got the new aspect that I,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: at least in recent times, has been added on because
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: last night you also watched a movie. So like, yeah,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: that's like a whole new avenue now that like, even
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: if which, again, everybody from the old show ended up
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: doing the same thing, like still kind of finding a
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: new way to do that.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: It is, like, such its own form of entertainment now. Like,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: there are so many people. It is.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 11: It's riffing.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Master Pancake out in Austin. You've got Down in Front
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: in Chicago. There's a ton of great movie riffing people
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: out there.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: And a ton of great movies.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Doug Benson. Oh, yeah, last night with, well,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: we won't say the name. We won't.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: We're in it.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: It was very special, let me just tell you.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's real, real bad. And, yeah, that's really exciting
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: to get to do because now I've got that name
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: brand recognition with MST.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Uh, and it just like, you know, I, I don't
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: feel the pressure to, and also I got the songs now.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: So it's like, it's like, if I don't, if I'm
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: not feeling like all standup, I got, I can like
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: go on. All right, let's riff on a movie now.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: And that's like, it's like, or you know what? I'm
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: good with the jokes. Let's, uh, I'm going to sing
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: a couple of like weird out covers, you know, I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: have these things I can do now. And I, I
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: like to kind of put on a show. I liked,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: it's like, and that's why I liked having a big
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: howl and a possum just cause it's like, It's just
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: this weird– it's like a weird variety show. Like, you know,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: that's like– I like to present stuff like that. That's
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: what we tried to do with Meltdown.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: It was like there was standards, but there was also
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: other stuff going on, you know?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: It gives it a very different feel. Yeah, but again,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: the geek that I am, I like when it starts
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: crossing over. I like– taking movies and then forcing them
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: into places that they didn't used to be or they
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: didn't they so because i feel like the references are
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: always there because for so many people like even just
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 5: last night i'm like everybody up there is just like
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 5: movie references yeah and i'm like it's kind of what
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: we all do it's just like some people a little
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: more than others.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah and it's a you know it's it's a kind
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: of a way to just it's like remixes it's uh
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: it's a collage it's a pastiche of like um all
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: this pop culture shit in our heads and just pouring
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: it on top of other pop culture.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: That's every episode of the show.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's just cutting up magazines and putting them
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: on a poster board. Um, and so, and that's what
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: I like. It's like with these, with these, when, with
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: these shows where I riff on the movie with people,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: like I like doing it with like, like local comics
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: cause they'll bring some aspect to it that I won't
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: ever think of. And it's, and it's all freestyle. It's a,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: so it's like seeing, it's like going to an improv
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: show where even if the jokes aren't good, you're like, well,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: they just thought of it.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, is it, I would think it has to
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: be at least more fun for you because how much
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: you have to like hammer away at those ones for,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: for mystery science theater. They're like, everything has to be
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: timed perfectly. Everything has to be balanced with the other
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: jokes you're telling. Whereas now you're just.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So it's like, and that's the thing when
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: we're writing an actual episode. So, you know, there's like,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it's like, that's a good joke for
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: that moment.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: We've done three talking as that characters in a row.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: And we call them talking as ifs. We did just
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: a few talking as ifs. Like, okay, yeah. So we
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: should do a comment. Like a comment joke. And so
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: you have these different types of things.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: So should we comment? And then it becomes math, essentially.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they always had that. It's like you'd have references
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: to other movies. You'd have just them doing a funny voice,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: just pointing at something on the screen and making fun
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: of it. So yeah, they always kind of had that.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: So eventually it would have to be like, okay, there's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: only so many things we can do. how do we
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: balance them out? How do we hammer them all in here?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: And yeah.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: What was funny was seeing like with the news shows,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: like people going like, it's like, they're making a lot
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: of references to stuff like now. And like, I was like,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, they always did. You're just,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: you weren't old enough to get them.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: They all went over your head.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: Cause there are still ones that I'm like, that's like
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: a regional reference. I don't even know what you're going for.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: We would do that sometimes. If there was like, if
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: there was like a reference, it's like, if we were
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: going to say like, it's like, Oh, traffic's backed up
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: on the, we would, I would always pick something in the, uh,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: in the, in the twin cities area. Um, And then
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: there was like one at the end where it's like
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Elliot Kalin, who's the head writer, like it's at the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: end of Time Travelers where they're like off in this
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: like green pasture. He's like, oh, I'm going to have
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: everyone sing this song from a regional like camp in
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Jersey that he went to as a kid. And it
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: was like from an early– it's like I can't remember
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: the song now, but it's like he had to pull
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: it up on YouTube. We're like, why are we doing this?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: He's like, because it will make me and my sister
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: laugh so hard.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: It's always like such weird. Again, like the Packers win.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 5: It's a random reference that most of the other country
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: doesn't care what the Packers are doing that week.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: I was really glad. I think it's in the first
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: season where I throw in a Garth Merengue. It's like,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: I'm Garth Merengue. This is my dark place.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: Oh, so I guess now we've decided you're not done.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: You're on the path. You're kind of at a new
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: crossroads now. So do you know, or again, mostly just
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: so people can find where you're going and follow you
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: on the rest of this journey. What's the best way
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: for people to keep up with you? And then do
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: you have specific stuff that you want to send them towards?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, I'm on Instagram. So that's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: what I like to post on because I like taking
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: pictures and making videos and stuff like that.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: I want to put a lot of words in it.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: It won't let me.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: It's all pictures. Not me, man.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: Now I just have to take weird– well, again, I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 5: take tons of weird pictures, but it's only like up
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: two or three things. It's just weird and animate objects.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: On Halloween, I go and take weird pictures of stuff
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: in people's yards.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, nice.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the only thing on our Movie Meltdown feed.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: That's great. You should maybe have it do something with
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: the show. No, no, no.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Horror.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: Skeletons and horror.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Skeletons and horror.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Ghosts and goblins it really is like it's that or
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: like the they do vinyl model kits at wonderfest every
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: year and it's like 20 pictures of like close-ups of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: giant busts of a monster from 35 years ago that
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: nobody else knows what it is yeah yeah i'm just
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: like this is awesome oh yeah that's my instagram yeah
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: what's yours yeah at jonah ray uh which is also
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: twitter and uh and stuff and uh um bands in
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: town is where you can find my live uh live
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: appearances and doing stuff in upstate new.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: York and Not every show has movie riffing. Some of
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: them do. Some of them don't. It just depends on
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: the venue, really.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: I would think that's an extra challenge.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just if they can do it.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: Sometimes they're like, yeah, we can set it up. It'll
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: be like $ 2, 000. I was like, wait, that's how much
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be making. I hope.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 5: That's kind of why I quit doing live events.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: Because I did do a movie showing one time, and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: I had to rent the screen. I had to come
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 5: up with the projector. I went so far in the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: hole on that. And I'm just like– Just start doing
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: them at Kaiju. If you guys want to do it, yeah. Well, see,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: they weren't there at the time. But, yeah.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: That was a great room.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're a good setup. They could get a little
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: bit of a better projector, but– It was there.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: It was there. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's what I'm doing.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm just going around, adding dates as I try
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: to work on this Edinburgh show, which is exciting to me.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, doing just, yeah. Like right now,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting to hear back. I'm supposed to, I did
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: a pilot script for BBC in England. And that's something
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: that I'm like really hoping to try and do. Because
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: I feel that's the, as far as like next project
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: of mine, it feels like the, in my head, you know,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: it's like I did my standup show and then I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: had my sketch show with, uh, you know, hidden America.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: And then I, you know, and then I did mystery
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: science theater on like Netflix. And then I'm like, it's like, Oh,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: and the next thing is like a narrative. I want
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: to do like a narrative comedy show, um, in England.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: Uh, and it's all stages.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like, I just, I hope, I hope it works.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, they seem to be really stoked on it
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: and got to work on it with the guy from
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: the in-betweeners, uh, and.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: And that has such crossover now that it didn't. Again,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: it used to be it was on BBC and that
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: was it. And occasionally they'd pick up two or three
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 5: shows to show on PBS or something. But like now,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 5: you can just watch BBC.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: And it's like the idea of just pulling a Rob Delaney,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: just getting to live in England for a little bit
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: would be nice. I think it's time they need another
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: tall American dude.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: You're just going to confuse them.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: They won't be able to tell us apart. All Americans
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: look the same. But, yeah, so that's just what I'm
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: up to now. All right. Yeah, and then we'll probably
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: have going to be that movie I shot. I think
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: that's coming out in April on Hulu.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: I can't say much more than that, but it was fun. And, yeah, yeah,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: that's all I got. All right.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: That'll do.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: So thank you for being on the show.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 5: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 11: Put down the chainsaw and listen to me It's time
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 11: for us to join in the fight It's time to
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 11: let your babies grow up to be cowboys It's time
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  Speaker 11: to let that black box bite You better put all
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 11: your eggs in one basket You better cut your chickens
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 11: before they hatch You better sell some wine before it's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 11: time You better find yourself a niche to.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 10: Scratch You better squeeze all the Charmin you can But Mr.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 10: Whipple's not around Stick your head in the microwave and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 10: get yourself a tan.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 11: Talk with your mouth full. Bite the hand that feeds you.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 11: Bites are more than you can chew. What can you do?
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 11: Dare to be stupid Take some wooden ankles Look for Mr.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 11: Goodbuff Get your mojo working now I'll show you how
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 11: You can dare to be stupid You can turn the other.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 12: Cheek You can just give up the ship You can
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 12: eat a bunch of sushi then forget to leave a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 12: tip Dare to be stupid Come on and dare to
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 12: be stupid!
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  Speaker 5: It's so easy to do!
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: Dare to be stupid!
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  Speaker 11: We're all waiting.
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  Speaker 5: For you!
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 11: Let's go!
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 6: It's time to make a mountain out of.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 11: A molehill So can I have a volunteer? There's no
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 11: more time for crying over spilled milk Now it's time
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 11: for crying in your field Settle.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: Down, raise a folly, join the PTA Buy some.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 11: Sensible shoes and a Chevrolet Then party till you're broke
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 11: and they drag you away It's okay, you can dare
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 11: to be stupid.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 12: It's like spitting on a fish.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 10: It's like barking up a tree It's like I said,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 10: you gotta.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 9: Buy one if you wanna get one free.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Dare to be stupid.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: Boy, don't you dare.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: To be stupid.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: It's so easy.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 11: So easy to do. We're all waiting for you.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 7: Dare to be stupid. Burn your candle, have a binge.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: Plug a gift horse in the mouth. Mashed potatoes can.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 11: Be your friend.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Ah!
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 11: You can be a coffee achiever You can sit around
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 11: the house and watch leave it to fever The future's
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 11: up to you, so what you gonna do? Dare to
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 11: be stupid, dare to be stupid What did I say?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 11: Dare to be stupid Tell me what did I say?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 11: Okay, I can hear you now.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Podcast.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: They're the worst.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: They're the worst. These motherfuckers.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: You'd think people would come to their senses. Mostly just
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: the people would stop doing this.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: Just talking about myself.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Podcast, huh?
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: One of these days they'll catch on, though. You just wait.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: I'll be cashing that podcast check.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 4: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:24:29
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• 1:24:33
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• 1:24:35
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• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: Talk hard!
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