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Former O’s manager (current Rays Senior Advisor) Brandon Hyde joins · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Here he is Brandon. Oh, he's on his phone. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: he's you know what he's doing right now, Kratzy Brandon.
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Speaker 2: Hide screen ager.
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Speaker 1: Besides being a screenager, he's trying to figure out his
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Speaker 1: title because they had an argument in our pre production
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Speaker 1: show today.
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Speaker 3: What is your exact title with the Rays?
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Speaker 1: Your player personnel development, mental coach of Bunting?
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Speaker 3: What is your can you please?
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Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I'm still trying to figure it out myself. No.
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Speaker 4: The bistal title is Senior Advisor Baseball Operations, which is
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Speaker 4: just a title. It's pretty much just being a resource
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Speaker 4: for the major league club and the minor league managers,
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Speaker 4: being around the big league club quite a bit, trying
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Speaker 4: to help out as much as I can with cash
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Speaker 4: in the front office there, and then just being a
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Speaker 4: resource for the minor league managers in the minor league staff.
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Speaker 4: So I really enjoyed doing a little bit of everything.
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Speaker 4: They've included me and everything, and I've enjoyed, really enjoyed
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Speaker 4: being this organization.
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Speaker 1: All right, Because I just want to know, have you
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Speaker 1: ever seen office? I think it's office space? What exactly
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Speaker 1: do you do around here?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 4: Like? That's kind of one of my favorite movies.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what is what is it exactly you do
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Speaker 3: around here? Is that what they come in? Is that?
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Speaker 4: What? Uh? Yeah, No, you know, I'm at the club
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Speaker 4: quite a bit. And at the club that definitely when
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Speaker 4: they're home with the coaches in the coaches room, I
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Speaker 4: watched their game from from the suite with the with
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Speaker 4: the front office people or sometimes with with with our analysts,
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Speaker 4: which is a lot of fun. But then also when
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Speaker 4: they go on the road if I don't travel, I'm
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Speaker 4: I see affiliates and I'm kind of evaluate our organization,
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Speaker 4: coaches and players, the trade deadlines coming up hopefully you know,
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Speaker 4: would be involved in that a little bit. So they've
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Speaker 4: included me and everything. So I I don't have anything specific,
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Speaker 4: but I'm just really happy to be here being with
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Speaker 4: the Raised organization.
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Speaker 2: I know one thing that they do is they do
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Speaker 2: value input from everybody. You were across the dugout from
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Speaker 2: the Rays for a long time. Do you feel like
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Speaker 2: their ability to value input would have been something that
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Speaker 2: you could have used when you were the manager of
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Speaker 2: the Orioles or in any other organization that you were in.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean every organization is different. I mean Eric
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Speaker 4: and Anderson just an incredible person. He is surrounded by
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Speaker 4: unbelievable people also, So that's the first thing you notice.
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Speaker 4: The first thing you notice here is the people that
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Speaker 4: they've brought in, the people in the organization, how they communicate,
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Speaker 4: how they go about making decisions. You know, Eric's so
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Speaker 4: transparent and he asked a ton of questions and everybody
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Speaker 4: else is very very curious on how we get better
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Speaker 4: and everybody gets along so well, that's the first thing
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Speaker 4: you notice is that everybody enjoys being working together and
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Speaker 4: is really with the people, and it starts with Eric
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Speaker 4: and that's that's a huge you know, that's a that's
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Speaker 4: a huge thing for me is uh is the culture
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Speaker 4: that they build and then cashed them with his with
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Speaker 4: his coaching staff. You know, it's guys that have been
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Speaker 4: together for a while, and it's guys that get along
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Speaker 4: really well. And uh, you know, it's a it's a
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Speaker 4: great blend between the major league coaching staff, the front
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Speaker 4: office and then the player development Staff's fantastic.
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Speaker 3: Brandon, do you have a company phone or do you
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Speaker 3: have a personal cell phone?
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Speaker 4: They use, Uh, it's a personal cell phone.
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Speaker 1: Because I didn't know maybe if the rays have ever
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Speaker 1: come to you and said you know you used to
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Speaker 1: work for the Orioles. Are you giving them information under
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Speaker 1: the table and they're paying you want to you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like because you're kind of were in
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Speaker 1: the same division. He tried to beat them there for
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Speaker 1: a while, and now you're trying to learn from Everyone
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Speaker 1: wants to be like the race. So I didn't know
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Speaker 1: if if the Orioles maybe had sent you in as
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Speaker 1: a mole and then you're sending secret information back to.
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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I'm I'm I'm pro raised right now.
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Speaker 3: You're doing it. You're doing it the rainway. Now.
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Speaker 4: I'm more light blue right now, you can meet I'm
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Speaker 4: not worn blacking home right now. I'm more light blue
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Speaker 4: ever since May eighteenth of last year, seventeenth, whatever day
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Speaker 4: that was. I'm I'm I'm pro ray right now.
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Speaker 1: Plus, here's the biggest thing that people don't know. You
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Speaker 1: live in the Saint Pete Clearwater area, so you're home, dude.
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Speaker 1: This is like, this is like you don't have to
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Speaker 1: go on the road. You can just go to the
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Speaker 1: home games. You can post up in the sweet life
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Speaker 1: like we showed.
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Speaker 3: And then you get to go home and watch your kids.
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Speaker 3: It's like the perfect thing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to watch my kids play a little
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Speaker 4: bit this year. Like you said, I'm not that far
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Speaker 4: from the trop springing. The spring training site's just kind
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Speaker 4: of the other direction, not that far away. So it's
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Speaker 4: worked out great. Yeah, Cashi, you know, called me at
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Speaker 4: the end of the year last year and we talked
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Speaker 4: and some other people on their front office. John Daniels
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Speaker 4: is over here. He's an incredible, credible person and learning
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Speaker 4: a lot from him. So I'm just so happy to
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Speaker 4: be here. I think that I'm learning every single day.
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Speaker 4: I hope that I can contribute and you know, it's
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Speaker 4: been a really fun experience so far.
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Speaker 2: All Right, the field or the front office, you only
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Speaker 2: have you have less than a year under your belt here,
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Speaker 2: field or front office.
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Speaker 4: Well, I was a farm director one year, long time
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Speaker 4: ago for Theois Group in two thousand. That was a
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Speaker 4: rebuild too, two thousand and thirteen to over thirteen. So yeah,
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Speaker 4: I mean, the dugouts. It's hard to beat the adrenaline
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Speaker 4: and the dugout. And I've been fortunate to be you know,
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Speaker 4: I've managed for a while, I've been on major league
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Speaker 4: coaching staffs now for for quite a while. The adrenaline
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Speaker 4: of the big leagues, the adrenaline of trying to win
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Speaker 4: every single night, the chaos of it, that's hard to replicate.
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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm whatever the job is in front
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Speaker 4: of me, I'm gonna do the best I can. But
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Speaker 4: but ultimately I've always been on the field, guy hider.
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Speaker 1: Everyone Matina told us that the ninth inning is like
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Speaker 1: an addiction. So you've lived that life, You've you've lived
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Speaker 1: ups and downs of the night thing. That's kind of
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Speaker 1: what you're hitting at, right, the the addiction of man,
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Speaker 1: how am I going to figure out how to get
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Speaker 1: a pitching staff through when we're a guy or too short, right?
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Speaker 1: Or how am I going to get this guy through
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Speaker 1: five innings? So we save our bullpend for not today
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Speaker 1: but tomorrow. Right, So that that's kind of what the
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Speaker 1: what you're trying you're saying.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just you know, you play in front of pack,
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Speaker 4: you know, packed houses with with a lot on the
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Speaker 4: line on a nightly basis. It's pretty addicting. And you
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Speaker 4: know there's uh, even when I was you know, most
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Speaker 4: of the Cubs as the first base coach and bench
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Speaker 4: coach there, you know, not a better place to beat
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Speaker 4: a lot of times than Wrigley Field on a Friday
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Speaker 4: afternoon against the Cardinals or whoever it is. And then
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Speaker 4: you get into the postseason and you're you can't even
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Speaker 4: feel your feet because it's just your You're nervous, and
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Speaker 4: you're anxious, and you're and you're excited. The same thing
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Speaker 4: as a managers, just with a lot less, a lot
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Speaker 4: more pressure, a lot more things going on around you.
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Speaker 4: To make decisions in real time, with decisions that matter.
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Speaker 4: That's you know, I really enjoyed that a lot. And
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Speaker 4: I enjoyed the collaboration part with the front office, with
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Speaker 4: the coaching staff on try on how we're gonna how
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Speaker 4: we're gonna beat the Yankees tonight with a seventy million
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Speaker 4: dollars payroll. That was that that drove me. And so
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Speaker 4: we did a pretty good job of that after the
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Speaker 4: first few years. But for a few years we did
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Speaker 4: a good job of that twenty two to twenty four.
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Speaker 4: But you know, those type of those type of moments
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Speaker 4: you've never forget. You You always remember the tough ones, honestly,
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Speaker 4: But yeah, that feeling is that feelings addictive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, we don't talk about the cubs
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Speaker 1: on this show. Okay, they're not even a team except
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Speaker 1: for when they're doing crappy, which you are now, so
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about the Cubs.
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Speaker 3: Here's my thing. You're a former manager. Now you're in
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Speaker 3: front off as you were a coach before.
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Speaker 1: If and when, which I think you should get another
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Speaker 1: big league manager's job. What have you learned in this
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Speaker 1: year off that you would take to your next job,
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Speaker 1: especially from the Rays, who everyone says has the best
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Speaker 1: organization in baseball.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've had a year to reflect on
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Speaker 4: kind of the six plus years of being in Baltimore
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Speaker 4: really special time in my life. Got to experience a
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Speaker 4: lot of things. And when you're when you're especially a
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Speaker 4: first year manager or first time manager, you're going to
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Speaker 4: go through experiences that that you nothing's preparing you for that.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I was the bench coach for four different managers,
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Speaker 4: but until you're in the seat, nothing is actually preparing
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Speaker 4: you for real time decisions, especially in the Al East,
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Speaker 4: or dealing with media or the front office communication. All
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Speaker 4: those type of things are things that you you're going
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Speaker 4: through for the first time. And so you know, for
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Speaker 4: those six plus years, I'm proud of, proud of what
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Speaker 4: we built there. I'm proud of how we handled everything.
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Speaker 4: You know, there was a lot of good times. There
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Speaker 4: was a few really really tough years. The last year
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Speaker 4: I was there was a really really tough year also,
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Speaker 4: so you're dealing with I was dealing with a rebuild too,
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Speaker 4: then kind of coming out of nowhere and exceeding expectations
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Speaker 4: for a few years to all of a sudden there
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Speaker 4: is expectations and how you handle that, all those types
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Speaker 4: of things you're going through for the first time, and
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Speaker 4: I want to believe that through the if there was
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Speaker 4: a second or third time, you know, I would have
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Speaker 4: I would be able to lean back on on the
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Speaker 4: experiences that I had. Being with this organization, I'm seeing
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Speaker 4: how they run things a little bit differently, being around
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Speaker 4: different people I've kind of thrown myself into. I watched
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Speaker 4: a lot of gigs, like I said, with with an
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Speaker 4: analyst and to kind of get his his thoughts on
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Speaker 4: on on the decision making. I talked to Cashi quite
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Speaker 4: a bit. I talked to I'm in the coach's room
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Speaker 4: every single day and get you know, just discussing discussing
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Speaker 4: game game situations, how to deal with players, how to
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Speaker 4: how to make players better, and so I think that
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Speaker 4: all my experiences are gonna are gonna benefit me if
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Speaker 4: there is the next time around.
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Speaker 2: All Right, you said you've you said it twice now
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Speaker 2: that you watch the games with the analysts and you
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Speaker 2: kind of smile both times. How many times have you disagreed?
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Speaker 2: Because I say that because I know the Rays want
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Speaker 2: disagreements because they feel like I forget exactly what Neander
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Speaker 2: told me, like out of disagreements comes the right answer,
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Speaker 2: because there's two sides to the disagreement. When you watch
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Speaker 2: these games, how often do you disagree?
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give Hi a shout out. His name
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Speaker 4: is Kyle Young, and he's uh so it's not money,
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Speaker 4: it's not money. He's not with his room together at times,
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Speaker 4: so I watch. I'll watch with the suite with Eric
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Speaker 4: and Kevin ibaking those guys up there. But but sometimes
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Speaker 4: I'll watch from from the coach's room with Kyle, and
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Speaker 4: it's just interesting to get his perspective on real time
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Speaker 4: decisions and if there's a decision to be made, Like
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Speaker 4: he'll ask me a lot of times about bullpen usage,
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Speaker 4: pinch hitting for a guy in the sixth having to
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Speaker 4: come back back around all those type of things, uh,
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Speaker 4: and filled in and fill back, attentional walk, all the
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Speaker 4: you know, math decisions at times that you make and
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Speaker 4: to get his his perspective from the computer. But also
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Speaker 4: I'll tell him a lot of times I'll ask him
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Speaker 4: questions and I'll say, hey, you're too late. You have
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Speaker 4: five seconds you had you had three seconds to figure
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Speaker 4: that out, and you didn't touch it in fast enough.
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Speaker 4: So the speed of the game is obviously different. But yeah,
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Speaker 4: just getting different perspectives I think is really really important
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Speaker 4: and understand and for me looking at the game from
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Speaker 4: a little different lens. Uh, it's going to be helpful.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: So I got to ask, then, do you get to
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Speaker 1: ask the pictures? Are you okay today? Are you good today?
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Speaker 1: Because then when you're sitting in that room with what
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Speaker 1: is Kyle? You said his name was Kyle, Kyle. When
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Speaker 1: you're sitting there with Kyle, does Kyle know that so
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Speaker 1: and so had a stomach bug, or so and so
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Speaker 1: or so and so's wife is mad at him, or
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Speaker 1: so and so's child was sick and they were up
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Speaker 1: all that, right, So does Kyle have that information?
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Speaker 3: So when he says, hey, you should have brought in X,
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Speaker 3: Y or Z.
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Speaker 1: You're like, man, you don't know that he threw up
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Speaker 1: all night because his kid was sick with him last night, Right?
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Speaker 3: Those things are those things discussed?
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well we just we play around during the
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Speaker 4: game with those type of things. But absolutely yeah. I
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Speaker 4: mean when I was managing, we would have a meeting
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Speaker 4: every single day, me and are my pitching coach and
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Speaker 4: bench coach and pitching about not just about if the
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Speaker 4: guy's available, that maybe somebody's got something different going on
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Speaker 4: that he is unavailable, or maybe the guy threw thirty
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Speaker 4: four pitches last night, but somehow he feels great today.
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Speaker 4: All those type of things are with the medical staff,
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Speaker 4: et cetera. Are discussed on a daily basis, and the
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Speaker 4: same thing in Tampa.
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Speaker 2: All right, so let's talk about this team. Is this
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Speaker 2: team the way that they're scoring the Rays team are
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Speaker 2: the way that they're able to win ball game? Is
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Speaker 2: it sustainable? When when Chandler Simpson was hitting four hundred,
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Speaker 2: people thought he was going to win a batting title.
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Speaker 2: Now I think he's hit two sixty with no pop
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Speaker 2: for the last month. Like, is there is this sustainable?
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Speaker 2: Or because the game's played in a different way, like
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Speaker 2: not home runs and strikeouts, Like we're gonna see different
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Speaker 2: types of ups and downs of a season.
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Speaker 4: Well, I love you know, when they were playing well early,
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Speaker 4: I mean the style of play was so fun to watch.
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Speaker 4: You know, you got three guys in the middle of
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Speaker 4: the order that are all stars and Chandler. I know
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Speaker 4: he stre Chandler's been struggling lady lately, but he's gonna
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Speaker 4: come around and he's a game changer because it's because
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Speaker 4: of the speed and the on base ability and the
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Speaker 4: way that they can move the baseball, the way that
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Speaker 4: they can run the bases. Obviously the safety and the
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Speaker 4: bunt game is a big part of their game because
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Speaker 4: they are they do manufacture, so it's fun to watch.
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Speaker 4: It's like eighty when I called it like a month ago.
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Speaker 4: It's like eighties National League Baseball, where they're not just
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Speaker 4: for the three run homer, but they aren't having to
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Speaker 4: generate some offense and trying to pass the baton and
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Speaker 4: trying to get into the big boys in the middle.
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Speaker 4: So that was that was fun. I think it. I
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Speaker 4: think they're your whether you're a home run hitting team
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Speaker 4: or a team that needs to manufacture, as you guys know,
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Speaker 4: for a six month season, you're going to go through
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Speaker 4: peaks and valleys. You're going to go through times where
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Speaker 4: you might have a tough couple of weeks, and that's
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Speaker 4: just that's just part of that's just part of Major
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Speaker 4: League Baseball, right, you know, right now they're they're they're
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Speaker 4: not at their best, but I think that they're gonna
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Speaker 4: They're gonna come out of it. It's still a really
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Speaker 4: good club. They can really pitch. They have really good
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Speaker 4: starting pitching, and that's going to keep you in games.
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Speaker 4: And when you have when you have all star type
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Speaker 4: players in the middle, and you have guys that can
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Speaker 4: generate some offense around you, and they play really good
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Speaker 4: defense on most nights. Defense is important and be able
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Speaker 4: to catch the ball. Uh. I think that I think
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Speaker 4: that they can get back to what they were doing
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Speaker 4: the first couple of months.
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Speaker 1: Is this is this sustainable hyder though, because fifty eight
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Speaker 1: homers isn't a lot, right and and I get that
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Speaker 1: you know National League style well, but so many teams
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Speaker 1: low average high homers homers play in the postseason. As
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Speaker 1: we know, the Brewers have kind of done this style
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Speaker 1: for the last couple of years.
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Speaker 3: They get to the postseason. They can't really make get
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Speaker 3: it to the finish line?
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Speaker 5: Is this style?
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Speaker 3: Does this style work? And can you win a World
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Speaker 3: Series with it?
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Speaker 4: Well, I think they're always gonna be looking to add right,
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Speaker 4: So there's gonna be you know, I think with the
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Speaker 4: deadline coming up, you know, it's gonna be interesting to
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Speaker 4: see you know what Eric and the group do and
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Speaker 4: what and what we do about it. You know, you're
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Speaker 4: always they put themselves in position two to make a
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Speaker 4: run and then to add up the deadline. So that's
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Speaker 4: gonna that's gonna be exciting. They have, you know, it's
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Speaker 4: a good farm system, there's good players, So we'll see
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Speaker 4: what happens. I can't tell you for sure if it's
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Speaker 4: gonna be this is gonna be the lineup that's gonna
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Speaker 4: be in September and and and end of the postseason.
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Speaker 4: I do know that they catch the ball, and I
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Speaker 4: do know that they have really good starting pitching. And
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Speaker 4: the three guys in the middle of the order are
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Speaker 4: super underrated. For me, Cammy Aronda and Yonni Diez are
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Speaker 4: three of the most underrated players in the game. They
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Speaker 4: are all star type hitters. So if you can surround
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Speaker 4: those guys with maybe a little bit more punch. I
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Speaker 4: think that it's a pretty pretty scary offense.
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Speaker 2: Would you say that Brian Baker is their closer with
18:20
Speaker 2: eighteen saves right now?
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Speaker 4: Big? Yeah? Yeah, I had him on. I had him
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Speaker 4: for three or four years in Baltimore.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so you saw him in Baltimore and you didn't
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Speaker 2: make him the closer, so you must have been a
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Speaker 2: terrible manager. But you also had the mountain you had Cano.
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Speaker 2: I want to know, does Kyle, your analytic friend, think
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Speaker 2: Brian Baker is the closer or he is just a
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Speaker 2: guy that gets three outs?
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Speaker 4: That's a good question. Stratsy uh. Cashi's used him in
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Speaker 4: the big part of the oder in the eighth also
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Speaker 4: quite a few times, so yes, if flat coming up
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Speaker 4: in the eighth and that's and that it's that pocket
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Speaker 4: I've seen cash you use use bacon and uh and
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Speaker 4: in that fashion also so probably the eighth inning, big spot,
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Speaker 4: ninth inning, that's that's how Bake's being used. Is that just.
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Speaker 3: But is that discussed before the game?
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Speaker 1: Is that discussed before the game or does that just
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Speaker 1: happen because you said you got three seconds right?
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Speaker 3: Five seconds?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I think you're discussing it through. I think
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Speaker 4: you're discussing before the game end, during the game. So
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Speaker 4: you're seeing how the you're seeing how the game is
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Speaker 4: played out. You're seeing what the score. You're seeing how
19:36
Speaker 4: you are, whether your starter went four, whether your started
19:39
Speaker 4: went six and two thirds, you're seeing, you're seeing what
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Speaker 4: you have available. You're seeing now you're seeing kind of
19:44
Speaker 4: how the game is being played the last for the
19:46
Speaker 4: last nine outs of the game, and where am I
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Speaker 4: putting my best guy against the against the toughest part
19:52
Speaker 4: of their order or the matchups that are that are
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Speaker 4: the best And right now, Bake has showed that he's
19:56
Speaker 4: that he's gotten some really really big outs for this team,
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Speaker 4: not just in that night inning, but in the eighth
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Speaker 4: inning also, And there's a lot of trust. So those
20:03
Speaker 4: kind of those kind of things were talked about all day.
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Speaker 1: Long, Brandon, when you when you were managing, and still
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Speaker 1: to this day, when you talk to Kevin Cash, do
20:11
Speaker 1: you start at the ninth inning and work your way
20:13
Speaker 1: back as far as how you're gonna build each game?
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Speaker 3: Right? Right?
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Speaker 1: Do you say, Okay, if everything goes perfect, we have
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Speaker 1: Bacon the ninth and then we have whoever in the
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Speaker 1: eighth and whoever in the seventh. Hopefully our starter gives
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Speaker 1: us six and then we can figure it out. Or
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Speaker 1: do you start at the starter and you look at
20:27
Speaker 1: it and say, well, if everything goes wrong and you
20:29
Speaker 1: need to have ABC ready, do.
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Speaker 3: You understand what I'm saying, Like, is the game built?
20:33
Speaker 1: Because everything is I don't want to say scripted, because
20:36
Speaker 1: it's not scripted, but it's discussed, right, It's it's planned
20:40
Speaker 1: out for you try to cover everything that could happen.
20:43
Speaker 1: So would you start the ninth inning and go back
20:45
Speaker 1: or from the first thing and go forward.
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Speaker 4: I so I'm gonna talking about myself. The way I
20:51
Speaker 4: did it in the way I did in Baltimore was
20:53
Speaker 4: I had a meeting six o'clock UH with my game
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Speaker 4: plan guy, pitching coach, bench coach, and we did talk
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Speaker 4: about our bullpen availability that night, and we did bring
21:06
Speaker 4: up different scenarios and I wanted to get opinions on
21:10
Speaker 4: if I had two lefties in the pen, If I
21:11
Speaker 4: have CNL Perez and Keegan Akan and the pen or
21:14
Speaker 4: Danny Kulom who get both sides out? What pocket do
21:19
Speaker 4: you do? We feel like if it's a diverse res ninder,
21:23
Speaker 4: a gray U pocket, do we like kulom or Perez
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Speaker 4: in a big spot, et cetera. So I wanted those
21:28
Speaker 4: type of opinions, so we did go over best case scenario.
21:32
Speaker 4: We would go over worst case scenario. With Batista. I
21:35
Speaker 4: had that kind of luxury where I just wanted to
21:41
Speaker 4: get three outs, try to get it to him somehow.
21:44
Speaker 4: And in those years of twenty three twenty four, I
21:46
Speaker 4: had Canoe and Perez a lot of nights. With Canoe
21:50
Speaker 4: is a heavy split, so I wanted him on a
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Speaker 4: right handed pocket. I wanted CNL on a left handed pocket.
21:56
Speaker 4: I had Coulomb and Jacob Webb that were kind of
21:58
Speaker 4: got both sides out, so we kind of would map
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Speaker 4: that out. Also, who's my long guy tonight? If things
22:06
Speaker 4: do not go right and the starter goes three and
22:08
Speaker 4: two thirds, who can I cover with some innings? All
22:10
Speaker 4: those type of things are discussed for about fifteen minutes.
22:12
Speaker 4: That's how I did it, at least about fifteen minutes
22:15
Speaker 4: prior to the game.
22:18
Speaker 2: Who are we missing with the race? Who are we
22:21
Speaker 2: as non Rays fans just baseball fans needing to tune into?
22:25
Speaker 2: Besides the power three that you said, in the middle of.
22:28
Speaker 4: That order, there's some good baseball players. Taylor Walls might
22:35
Speaker 4: be the best short stuff in the game defensively. To
22:39
Speaker 4: watch him on a nightly basis, I did. I always
22:42
Speaker 4: knew he was a good player from obviously managing against
22:44
Speaker 4: these guys a lot I watched. I watched him make
22:47
Speaker 4: plays against this But when you watch him play defensively,
22:50
Speaker 4: it's a he plays at a different level and the
22:53
Speaker 4: numbers back it up where he is just a game
22:56
Speaker 4: changer defensively in the middle of the field, surrounded by
23:00
Speaker 4: two really good players that are kind of coming into
23:02
Speaker 4: their room. Ben Williamson's a really good baseball player. Johnny DeLuca,
23:05
Speaker 4: who's coming back off injury here soon's a good baseball player.
23:08
Speaker 4: It can really handle left handed pitching. Richie Pelosios has
23:11
Speaker 4: done a nice job from the left side against against
23:13
Speaker 4: right handed pitching. I think Cedric's gonna have a good
23:17
Speaker 4: second half. So there's besides the three big boys in
23:20
Speaker 4: the middle, there's some There's just some good baseball players
23:23
Speaker 4: that play the game the right way. They play hard,
23:26
Speaker 4: that can all do little things with small ball. So
23:30
Speaker 4: I've just been impressed with how they go about how
23:32
Speaker 4: they go about the game and how they play.
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Speaker 1: All right, well that's Brandon Hyde, Ray's senior advisor of
23:39
Speaker 1: Baseball ops. Thank you for joining us Before I let
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Speaker 1: you go, though, I need to know this.
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Speaker 3: Tell Westy. People don't know.
23:44
Speaker 1: Westy is the director of Team Traveler. Thanks for texting
23:47
Speaker 1: me back three weeks later. I really appreciate all his
23:49
Speaker 1: help on something, so thanks for getting right back to me.
23:52
Speaker 3: It was amazing how quick his response was.
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Speaker 4: He's the best in the business. That's unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: I mean he you know, when he needs Florida Gator
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Speaker 1: tickets or he needs Florida Gator gear, you know what,
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Speaker 1: he calls me, I get right back.
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Speaker 3: I sent it to him. You know what. I asked him.
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Speaker 1: My son's college team's playing at Clearwater. They want to
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Speaker 1: come to VP. I texted him. The game's been played.
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Speaker 1: They've already written about it, you know, in the history books.
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Speaker 1: Three weeks later, Oh sorry, I just saw this.
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Speaker 3: So thank god Elvis got back to me. That's all
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Speaker 3: I can say. Thank god Elvis got back. He hooked
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Speaker 3: him up.
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Speaker 4: Elvis is a man too, exactly. I'll get on him
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Speaker 4: about getting a little bit more, you know, back to you.
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Speaker 4: In a quicker fashion.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and tell him I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: give him a tip, and I'll get Toby Hall to
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Speaker 1: give him a tips.
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Speaker 4: You probably years ago.
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Speaker 3: That's what I never played. I never played for the Rays.
24:43
Speaker 3: I took West he out and got him drunk more
24:45
Speaker 3: times than he remembers.
24:46
Speaker 4: So he should be one of my boulets.