Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Jason Lee Talks Public Service, Hollywood Unlocked Impact Awards + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the
- 0:04Speaker 1: breakfast club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all dumb.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Yes, it's the world most dangerous morning to show to
- 0:08Speaker 3: breakfast club. DJ Nvy Just Hilarius Charlamagne, the god envying
- 0:11Speaker 3: just aren't here, but Loyen LaRosa is and Mimi Brown
- 0:14Speaker 3: is sitting in as well. We got our guy, the
- 0:16Speaker 3: CEO of Hollywood unlocked.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Mister Jason Lee is here. One vice male stocked him.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back.
- 0:22Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
- 0:23Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. What a question I mean is today?
- 0:25Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm rested. I got some sleep, but yeah,
- 0:27Speaker 1: I'm good today.
- 0:28Speaker 2: I didn't know you used to be straight, Jason, char
- 0:32Speaker 2: How you doing it?
- 0:34Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm doing good to that. I didn't know
- 0:37Speaker 1: you you was. No. I mean you know I wrote
- 0:40Speaker 1: a book. You read my book? No, okay, yeah, I
- 0:42Speaker 1: mean I had girlfriends. It was a long time ago, Charlotte.
- 0:44Speaker 1: I'm about to be forty nine years old, so we're
- 0:46Speaker 1: going back thirty years now. It's not time. I have
- 0:48Speaker 1: a girlfriend.
- 0:48Speaker 3: But I don't remember in the book like you ever
- 0:51Speaker 3: were like talking like that was a real phase of
- 0:53Speaker 3: your life.
- 0:54Speaker 4: There's a whole chapter about my first boyfriend where I
- 0:57Speaker 4: talked about him being with this girl, me being with
- 1:00Speaker 4: my girl, and then us meeting and then you know,
- 1:02Speaker 4: becoming a thing. You know, the first night we messed
- 1:05Speaker 4: around was on I think it is the night of
- 1:07Speaker 4: the Ricky Lake Show.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Get to it.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Oh yeah, talk about that?
- 1:11Speaker 3: You know, by the way, is how you know your
- 1:13Speaker 3: profile continues to grow and they start digging up stuff
- 1:15Speaker 3: like this.
- 1:16Speaker 4: I don't know if it's because I'm elected or because
- 1:19Speaker 4: somebody was bored, but you know it's funny because I
- 1:22Speaker 4: saw this. I saw this message on Facebook. One post
- 1:26Speaker 4: it said Jason ly on Riculay question mark, and I go, oh, okay,
- 1:29Speaker 4: so somebody may have heard it. Then I saw two
- 1:31Speaker 4: comments on Instagram. Then I started getting the text. Then
- 1:34Speaker 4: I saw the clip. I said, okay, here we go. So, yeah,
- 1:36Speaker 4: they put it out.
- 1:36Speaker 2: What the beauty of it is?
- 1:37Speaker 3: When somebody puts something like that out, you could be like,
- 1:39Speaker 3: I already told you all this.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Man.
- 1:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I may have talked about being on
- 1:42Speaker 4: the Riky Lack Show on the thing.
- 1:45Speaker 1: But here's the deal. Here's the deal.
- 1:46Speaker 4: I think now that it's surfaced, I put a picture
- 1:49Speaker 4: of Riky Lake up on my Instagram last night with
- 1:51Speaker 4: the song from Hello from Cardi because I think now
- 1:53Speaker 4: I'm ready to start acting, you know, like you saw
- 1:56Speaker 4: me in there, I was giving trade.
- 1:57Speaker 1: I had three girls or whatever you're given.
- 2:00Speaker 5: I was going to say, you were so straight, but
- 2:02Speaker 5: it was but every now and then it was he
- 2:05Speaker 5: was like the hold on, hold on. I was like, Okay,
- 2:06Speaker 5: that's the Jason I hear today. But it was certain
- 2:08Speaker 5: points where I'm like, wow, like what.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The time is what you're saying?
- 2:14Speaker 5: Yeah, your trade was a little different cause I've been.
- 2:17Speaker 4: Around and yeah, you know, when I went to Delaware
- 2:20Speaker 4: once you know where you're from, I saw a lot
- 2:22Speaker 4: of trade from the car all the way down to
- 2:23Speaker 4: the party I went to. So I might go back
- 2:25Speaker 4: to Delaware at some point start a trade over there.
- 2:27Speaker 4: Here's like, yeah, you know, I will say, like the
- 2:30Speaker 4: interesting part is my one my first boyfriend that I
- 2:33Speaker 4: talked about in my book was on the show with
- 2:36Speaker 4: me as my best friend. So yeah, I yeah, we
- 2:38Speaker 4: left that show and we got it in at the hotel.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah, Well then you have it.
- 2:44Speaker 4: It's like this miraculous thing that's going viral, right, now
- 2:46Speaker 4: I don't know what is it, because.
- 2:48Speaker 3: It's because your profile continues to grow and people think
- 2:51Speaker 3: this is a got you moment. Like what they're trying
- 2:54Speaker 3: to say is, like I think, is that Jason Lee
- 2:56Speaker 3: has been acting for a long time, Like it's a grift.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah, but maybe I don't know.
- 3:03Speaker 4: I mean, look at the time I was, I did
- 3:06Speaker 4: see like the audio sounds like a little slow to like,
- 3:08Speaker 4: it sounds a little chopped and screwed.
- 3:09Speaker 1: I don't know if they put a Louisiana accident. I
- 3:12Speaker 1: don't know. That's who I was at nineteen.
- 3:13Speaker 4: This is who I am now, and somewhere in between
- 3:15Speaker 4: there I had a girl and a guy, maybe both
- 3:19Speaker 4: at the same time.
- 3:20Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm an evolution of everything. Yeah, but
- 3:22Speaker 1: that clip is going viral.
- 3:24Speaker 2: At nineteen, you're just trying to figure things out.
- 3:26Speaker 4: I was figuring it all out too, you know, crazy parties.
- 3:29Speaker 4: I was, yeah, yeah, listen. The other day I was
- 3:34Speaker 4: at an event for these kids in the city with
- 3:37Speaker 4: school district and I had this new camera guy, so
- 3:40Speaker 4: he's filming my bts or whatever, and one of my
- 3:42Speaker 4: ex girlfriends walked in. I did not mention who she
- 3:45Speaker 4: was at all. In fact, I was distracting. I'm like,
- 3:46Speaker 4: can you go get this? Because I didn't want them
- 3:48Speaker 4: to have this moment because for what like it's such
- 3:51Speaker 4: the past.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Me and her don't even talk like for what like
- 3:53Speaker 1: you're the past thirty years ago?
- 3:54Speaker 5: Wow, you don't say hi?
- 3:56Speaker 1: For what mean?
- 3:58Speaker 5: Nowhere did it end you?
- 3:59Speaker 4: I've seen you talk about your ex boyfriends up here?
- 4:01Speaker 4: Do you see your ex boyfriend.
- 4:02Speaker 5: And want to any of them?
- 4:03Speaker 1: But if you did, would you want to go and
- 4:05Speaker 1: say hello?
- 4:05Speaker 5: I wouldn't go say hello? But if they said hi
- 4:07Speaker 5: to me?
- 4:08Speaker 1: She didn't say hi to me.
- 4:09Speaker 4: Last time I saw he was at a red lobster
- 4:10Speaker 4: and I ain't been back there since. So why am
- 4:12Speaker 4: I going to speak once again?
- 4:14Speaker 3: Lawrence profile continues to grow because I get videos from
- 4:16Speaker 3: her ex boyfriends all the time.
- 4:20Speaker 6: Lie.
- 4:20Speaker 5: Let me tell you a lie that I've had maybe
- 4:23Speaker 5: three right now that I don't know who that person is.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Send it to Hollywood one from right here? You know? She?
- 4:33Speaker 4: You know, I always say I'm extremely proud of Lauren.
- 4:35Speaker 4: I've said it to her probably I said to her
- 4:37Speaker 4: right now because she was one of my interns and
- 4:39Speaker 4: before she left me and went to TMZ and then
- 4:41Speaker 4: now she left TMZ and now she's doing it and
- 4:43Speaker 4: I'm proud of her because you're really doing your thing.
- 4:45Speaker 4: But let me tell you about this one. She calls
- 4:47Speaker 4: me at five in the morning till I can I
- 4:48Speaker 4: get a statement? No, don't call five in the more.
- 4:51Speaker 4: You're the only person about anything. She's the only person
- 4:55Speaker 4: to have the courage. So first of all that called
- 4:57Speaker 4: me to ask me anything, I'd be like, yo, Lauren,
- 4:59Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you this, but like I'm sleepy right now.
- 5:05Speaker 4: See that the Hollywood on Life a matter of fact,
- 5:09Speaker 4: that Derek. But I love it because now that now
- 5:17Speaker 4: that your star is rising and you're growing into your
- 5:20Speaker 4: you know, your thing, and you're breaking all these exclusives. Baby,
- 5:24Speaker 4: they gonna break them on It's it's just it's going
- 5:26Speaker 4: to happen, absolutely and it's so good.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Take it with the grain. And so I put a
- 5:29Speaker 1: picture Ricky Lake up last night. Come on.
- 5:31Speaker 4: I was on Tempests, Blood Blood, Social Too twice voted
- 5:35Speaker 4: most wanted. Guess they brought all these unattractive women from
- 5:37Speaker 4: all over the country to meet me. Uh, And I was,
- 5:40Speaker 4: you know, like, yo, I'm trying to get out in
- 5:41Speaker 4: the city and see where you know, where they at
- 5:43Speaker 4: not you, But yeah, I have a past.
- 5:46Speaker 3: You know what's interesting, right because people have turned politics
- 5:49Speaker 3: into entertainment, right, That's what I feel like Trump did.
- 5:51Speaker 3: But you literally and well like you came from entertainment
- 5:55Speaker 3: in the politics. Is that dangerous or is that just
- 5:57Speaker 3: the future?
- 5:59Speaker 6: You know?
- 5:59Speaker 4: I think back when I came here, when I had won,
- 6:02Speaker 4: and I came here to the show, and you said,
- 6:04Speaker 4: are you worried they're going to try to do something?
- 6:05Speaker 4: Do you remember how I was like, dang, I do
- 6:07Speaker 4: nothing because I'm just they tried. It's just it's inherently
- 6:10Speaker 4: this world where I think that. Now what I'm seeing
- 6:13Speaker 4: is I'm seeing like a lot of Republican posts about
- 6:16Speaker 4: me Democrat vice mayor, Democrat vice mayor, Democrat vice mayor
- 6:19Speaker 4: because they see my influences massive. You know, I went
- 6:23Speaker 4: into it with millions of followers, my own money, the
- 6:26Speaker 4: real intention of building my community, and I brought a
- 6:29Speaker 4: lot of value there. So I see what they're trying
- 6:31Speaker 4: to do. It's not really wanting anything to stick. It's
- 6:33Speaker 4: just wanting people to believe narratives. So that way, if
- 6:35Speaker 4: I want to do something more. It's like, not the
- 6:37Speaker 4: guy that took fifty thousand dollars for a while, and
- 6:39Speaker 4: now not the comedian and not the reality start.
- 6:41Speaker 1: So I see the game.
- 6:42Speaker 4: But what's crazy is I see the impact that all regular,
- 6:46Speaker 4: everyday people are feeling because of all these games people
- 6:48Speaker 4: are playing.
- 6:49Speaker 1: It is wild.
- 6:49Speaker 4: You know, Spencer Pratt running for La mayor, you know,
- 6:52Speaker 4: and I was online getting ready to criticize them, but
- 6:54Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, that's how probably people saw me, you know, like,
- 6:56Speaker 4: who was this reality star podcaster who's now running for
- 7:00Speaker 4: city government. So I think Trump has changed the game,
- 7:02Speaker 4: and I think the thing that you've done has been great,
- 7:04Speaker 4: and I wish Democrats would pay attention and listen. Is
- 7:07Speaker 4: you've exposed the vulnerabilities of the Democratic Party trying to
- 7:10Speaker 4: play the old rule book. That rule book is done.
- 7:12Speaker 4: It is done, and the reason why Republicans are winning
- 7:14Speaker 4: is because they have changed the rules and they're heavily
- 7:17Speaker 4: invested in what they're doing.
- 7:18Speaker 3: What people think when we when we criticize the Democratic
- 7:21Speaker 3: Party and we say those things were literally telling them
- 7:23Speaker 3: what they need to do to win, they think we're
- 7:26Speaker 3: trying to shit on them.
- 7:27Speaker 2: For the other side, that makes no sense.
- 7:28Speaker 4: I remember, we have a friend, Erica Lowe, who opened
- 7:31Speaker 4: up the I love her. What she was trying to
- 7:34Speaker 4: do for the Biden administration was literally what we've been
- 7:37Speaker 4: trying to do to help people get their narratives out right,
- 7:40Speaker 4: Like she was opening the doors for us to get in.
- 7:42Speaker 4: But like I told her at my first meeting, I'm
- 7:43Speaker 4: not somebody you called to be happy to be at
- 7:45Speaker 4: the cookout. And then I remember calling you, like, what's
- 7:47Speaker 4: and he said, the minute you have an opinion.
- 7:50Speaker 1: That they don't like, watch how they switch up. And
- 7:53Speaker 1: it happened.
- 7:53Speaker 4: And I'm like, yo, hold on, like you you can
- 7:56Speaker 4: be mad at Charlemagne because he's telling you the truth
- 7:58Speaker 4: and then invite me because you think I'm going to
- 8:00Speaker 4: be the other person. We all the same, We all
- 8:03Speaker 4: have an opinion. And so when I got in and
- 8:05Speaker 4: I saw that the fabric was rooted in who was
- 8:08Speaker 4: going to go along to get along and push the
- 8:09Speaker 4: narrative instead of like being the fabric of what we're
- 8:12Speaker 4: all trying to build together, I said, no, y'are not.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Gonna play me like that.
- 8:15Speaker 4: And so when you said, watch how they get mad,
- 8:17Speaker 4: they did that. And then when I watched them all lose.
- 8:20Speaker 4: I'm like, because if you think Twerkin for votes is
- 8:22Speaker 4: going to win, that ain't what's going to stop some
- 8:24Speaker 4: mother who's trying to figure out why she has to
- 8:26Speaker 4: bury her kid who was killed by this police officer.
- 8:29Speaker 5: When they got mad at when they got mad at you,
- 8:31Speaker 5: when you said, watching, what did they do?
- 8:33Speaker 4: Well, you stop getting certain invitations or then you start.
- 8:37Speaker 1: You won't get the interviews.
- 8:39Speaker 4: I remember, you know, it's like you you don't get
- 8:43Speaker 4: the access that you would.
- 8:44Speaker 1: You don't get the they'll go over here and do
- 8:45Speaker 1: this conversation.
- 8:46Speaker 4: So when you see people popping up on shows that
- 8:49Speaker 4: make no sense because that person's not going to ask
- 8:51Speaker 4: the questions that he's going to ask. So when I
- 8:53Speaker 4: saw Kamala do the one I want with Charlotte Magne
- 8:56Speaker 4: when it was already too late, it was like, you
- 8:58Speaker 4: should have been had that conversation all the way through,
- 9:00Speaker 4: because the way that I heard Biden's aides were shitting
- 9:03Speaker 4: in her bathroom, you know, treating her like a you know,
- 9:07Speaker 4: a side piece or whatever, like disrespecting her. This is
- 9:10Speaker 4: the second most powerful person in the world who was
- 9:13Speaker 4: lining up with the president to get us to a
- 9:16Speaker 4: different place, and y'all are treating her disrespectful. So she
- 9:18Speaker 4: she should have had her allies and her base solidified
- 9:21Speaker 4: all the way through. And I feel like that's the
- 9:23Speaker 4: reason why a billion dollars later, and even though she
- 9:25Speaker 4: was well intentioned and probably the most qualified, she lost
- 9:27Speaker 4: in this is where we are, where we are today.
- 9:29Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was gonna say, this politics space
- 9:31Speaker 6: isn't new for you, Like maybe to some people, but
- 9:33Speaker 6: for you. You've been talking about that. I mean twenty twenty,
- 9:36Speaker 6: you were speaking about, you know, the black community and
- 9:39Speaker 6: what was happening and injustices and everything. Then like, yeah,
- 9:42Speaker 6: you know, talk about how like you transition from literally
- 9:46Speaker 6: wanting to be just a voice in the community to
- 9:49Speaker 6: running for vice mayor.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't want to be an elected official. I'll
- 9:52Speaker 1: be honest.
- 9:52Speaker 4: Most people they right now the city thinks, oh my god,
- 9:55Speaker 4: he's going to be the next mayor. He's gonna be
- 9:56Speaker 4: the next mayor, and everybody's asking me to run to
- 9:58Speaker 4: be the mayor.
- 9:59Speaker 1: I don't.
- 9:59Speaker 4: I didn't want to be the mayor or a vice
- 10:01Speaker 4: may or anything. What I wanted was I wanted to
- 10:04Speaker 4: bring a million dollars of my own money to my
- 10:06Speaker 4: city that I love to help kids like me who
- 10:09Speaker 4: have dreams, who are live in disinvested communities and don't
- 10:12Speaker 4: have really really pathways to do it. I said, I'll
- 10:15Speaker 4: put a million dollars in. You put a million dollars in. Together,
- 10:18Speaker 4: we'll build this program. I saw the politick and of
- 10:20Speaker 4: that opportunity. There's not a lot of people that are saying,
- 10:23Speaker 4: once they make a million dollars, I want to go
- 10:25Speaker 4: give it away to help my community.
- 10:27Speaker 1: That's just not something that happens, right.
- 10:28Speaker 4: And so in that process it became a social experiment
- 10:32Speaker 4: to me because like even a well intentioned person who's
- 10:34Speaker 4: made it out of the hood where most people still
- 10:37Speaker 4: live in or live in the same experience I did,
- 10:39Speaker 4: you're still fighting that. That went from not wanting a
- 10:42Speaker 4: partner to fine, I will change everybody up there, to okay,
- 10:45Speaker 4: I will be up there, to then still having to fight.
- 10:48Speaker 4: But you know, it's been one of those things where
- 10:50Speaker 4: I feel like, right now, I'm just showing people that
- 10:53Speaker 4: if you want to see a change in your community,
- 10:55Speaker 4: you can either do what we do on this side
- 10:57Speaker 4: of it, because this is a very important side too,
- 10:59Speaker 4: to have this audience and influence and relationships to drive
- 11:03Speaker 4: home a message, or you can get in the game
- 11:05Speaker 4: like I am now, or do both like I am now,
- 11:08Speaker 4: Or what I'm thinking now is maybe back up and
- 11:11Speaker 4: just you know, build a pack and just start investing
- 11:13Speaker 4: in the right candidates across my state that I want
- 11:16Speaker 4: to see, because at some point my point is is
- 11:18Speaker 4: that everybody has to get in the game.
- 11:20Speaker 1: You cannot sit on the sidelines, especially right now.
- 11:22Speaker 5: Well, we've talked before when the whole the fifty k
- 11:26Speaker 5: whiling out thing was happening that you were cleared of, right, yes,
- 11:28Speaker 5: And when all that happened, the way that the headlines
- 11:30Speaker 5: came out and framed it versus how people covered it
- 11:33Speaker 5: once you were cleared, and how you were calling people out,
- 11:35Speaker 5: What did that teach you about being in the political
- 11:36Speaker 5: space in those type of a.
- 11:37Speaker 4: Tear Again, I think he said it the best. The
- 11:39Speaker 4: lies always louder than the truth, right. And I get
- 11:42Speaker 4: it because I did an interview yesterday where like I
- 11:44Speaker 4: think a group brought me on because they thought I
- 11:46Speaker 4: was gonna be something different than I am. I think
- 11:49Speaker 4: because I'm elected, they think I'm not Jason Lee. And
- 11:52Speaker 4: these people had created a narrative before maybe five six
- 11:55Speaker 4: years ago, and it was time for me to get
- 11:57Speaker 4: on the air and say what I had to say.
- 12:00Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, And so I think that you know
- 12:03Speaker 4: when the wilding out happened, this is what happened.
- 12:05Speaker 1: I did the show for five seasons.
- 12:07Speaker 4: I asked Nick Cannon along the way, Hey, when I
- 12:09Speaker 4: make it in, if I make it to city council,
- 12:11Speaker 4: will you bring wilding out to stock the live show?
- 12:14Speaker 4: He said yes. So I put them with staff, y'all
- 12:17Speaker 4: figure it out. They figured it out, and right before
- 12:20Speaker 4: the show was going to I think maybe a Thursday,
- 12:23Speaker 4: I was in Mexico and they called the promoter. Call said,
- 12:26Speaker 4: I think we're going to cancel the show because the
- 12:28Speaker 4: show we haven't sold out our tickets and you know,
- 12:30Speaker 4: we're already losing a bunch of money, but we really
- 12:32Speaker 4: really want.
- 12:32Speaker 5: To do this.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Ye I said, We'll call the staff. Y'all figure it out.
- 12:35Speaker 4: So the staff put in fifty thousand dollars from an
- 12:37Speaker 4: approved fund to save the show, and they did, mind you,
- 12:40Speaker 4: our facilities underutilized. We're running four million dollars a year
- 12:43Speaker 4: to keep them alive. So this new promoter, I'm new
- 12:45Speaker 4: to the area, put in fifty thousand, the city put
- 12:47Speaker 4: in fifty thousand, and the city made six hundred and
- 12:49Speaker 4: forty thousand, So from a business standpoint, it was a
- 12:52Speaker 4: twelve time multiple. It was a great investment of a
- 12:54Speaker 4: fund that was there. But because we were firing the
- 12:57Speaker 4: manager on his way out, he just threw his bomb
- 12:58Speaker 4: out there, like oh yeah, the ice mears involved with this.
- 13:01Speaker 4: But what they didn't realize was how viral it would go.
- 13:05Speaker 4: And now they're realizing like, Okay, we can't talk about
- 13:07Speaker 4: you the same way we can talk about them.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you just don't lie?
- 13:11Speaker 4: But then they spend fifty thousand dollars approve I didn't
- 13:13Speaker 4: take fifty thousand dollars, And now the taxpayers are mad
- 13:15Speaker 4: and they're probably going to lose their elections because you know,
- 13:18Speaker 4: they people back home see me as a hero, and
- 13:21Speaker 4: these people.
- 13:21Speaker 1: Attack the hometown hero.
- 13:23Speaker 5: Does that bring you closer to the people you're serving
- 13:25Speaker 5: or does that does that create a conversation where like
- 13:28Speaker 5: there are second guessing things like how does that affect
- 13:29Speaker 5: you in you when you're in the actual community.
- 13:31Speaker 4: I think people in Stockton know that I don't need
- 13:34Speaker 4: to be there, that this is a choice, right.
- 13:36Speaker 1: They know that I made the money.
- 13:37Speaker 4: They see my lifestyle, they know, you know, I didn't
- 13:40Speaker 4: take an oath to poverty to take the job.
- 13:41Speaker 1: I don't act like I don't got it. I don't.
- 13:43Speaker 4: I got rid of all my jewelry and all that
- 13:45Speaker 4: because I just realized, like I'm at a point in
- 13:46Speaker 4: my life where I'm not a rapper.
- 13:47Speaker 1: I don't. I know I have it.
- 13:49Speaker 4: I don't need to prove anything to myself other than
- 13:52Speaker 4: be happy, be sober, you know, stay in therapy, stay focused.
- 13:56Speaker 4: But I know now the people back home, they know me.
- 14:00Speaker 4: If I go to Starbucks, it's not they know what
- 14:02Speaker 4: I do for a living. But they don't treat me
- 14:04Speaker 4: like They just treat me like Jason, and they appreciate
- 14:06Speaker 4: what I'm doing for the.
- 14:07Speaker 6: Community, which one is harder being a public personality or
- 14:10Speaker 6: public office.
- 14:11Speaker 4: Public office for sure, not because only because you know,
- 14:16Speaker 4: if you say, oh, look at this Ricky lay clip,
- 14:18Speaker 4: I can put a picture of Ricky le Cup and
- 14:19Speaker 4: laugh at it because it doesn't matter.
- 14:21Speaker 1: But I know that kids are watching me.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Like when I go to speak at schools, you know,
- 14:26Speaker 4: like these kids are excited to see me. They're like, yo,
- 14:28Speaker 4: this guy, we've watched them on the Batties. I'd be like,
- 14:30Speaker 4: why are you watching the batties?
- 14:31Speaker 1: You know?
- 14:31Speaker 4: Or they say, oh, how is this person? Or I
- 14:34Speaker 4: saw you on the Breakfast Club, you know, like they
- 14:36Speaker 4: love they're inspired by what I'm doing, and that means
- 14:38Speaker 4: a lot to me. I think the thing that bothers
- 14:40Speaker 4: me is seeing how politics ruins the lives of people,
- 14:44Speaker 4: like the fact that politics really are. It's a world
- 14:47Speaker 4: where all these people are trying to get their friends
- 14:49Speaker 4: money and they're trying to get status. They're already looking,
- 14:52Speaker 4: They're forecasting the next move and next seat they want.
- 14:54Speaker 4: I'm like, why don't you just do the work that
- 14:56Speaker 4: you're elected to do right now? And I think the
- 14:58Speaker 4: people see that. That's the part I don't like.
- 15:00Speaker 3: So the government is messing in Hollywood way, what what yo?
- 15:05Speaker 1: Y'all talking about? Diddy parties talk about them?
- 15:07Speaker 4: Epstein files were not even talking about that because look
- 15:09Speaker 4: at the Look at the weapon of the Master distraction.
- 15:12Speaker 4: This man went kidnapped Venezuelan president, bomb kids that I ran,
- 15:16Speaker 4: tore down the White House, took a plane from in
- 15:19Speaker 4: a foreign country. He you know, he made everybody think
- 15:22Speaker 4: that immigration is people that are black and brown when
- 15:24Speaker 4: his wife is an immigrant, and and and and like
- 15:28Speaker 4: we're not even talking about the fact that the Epstein
- 15:30Speaker 4: files are still out there, you know, but that's that's
- 15:34Speaker 4: how politics work.
- 15:35Speaker 1: It's a nasty game.
- 15:36Speaker 5: You Know. What I appreciate with you too, is I
- 15:38Speaker 5: think even through those moments where things are tense, like
- 15:40Speaker 5: when a while and out stuff was happening, you are
- 15:42Speaker 5: very vulnerable and you talk us through it. So we're
- 15:44Speaker 5: learning in real time about how a lot of these
- 15:47Speaker 5: things work. Right, with money trickling into different organizations, lack
- 15:50Speaker 5: there of whatever. A lot of people don't have those
- 15:53Speaker 5: conversations because when the headlines hit, they back away from it.
- 15:55Speaker 5: They're like, oh my god, them, I got my career.
- 15:57Speaker 4: Well most most most of these people don't have their
- 15:59Speaker 4: own place too. So you know, Stockton, that's a news
- 16:02Speaker 4: desert where you know, I have in my whole universe
- 16:04Speaker 4: nine million followers and have relationships with people who have followers.
- 16:07Speaker 4: And you know, when the wild'n Out thing was cleared
- 16:10Speaker 4: up to Charlemagne's point, when you all talked about it here,
- 16:12Speaker 4: and thank you for clearing it up because it was
- 16:14Speaker 4: important that my friends share it. Because my friends that
- 16:16Speaker 4: know me, you know that you know, just share the truth.
- 16:20Speaker 4: But when Charlemagne said, the truth is not as loud
- 16:22Speaker 4: as the lie, nobody.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Cares about the joy lies more in attain they don't care.
- 16:25Speaker 4: And that's that's really sad. And I will say that,
- 16:28Speaker 4: like going back to that whole thing. You know, they
- 16:31Speaker 4: denied the million dollar program. So I ran brought the
- 16:34Speaker 4: opportunity back to this city saying, hey, we have this
- 16:37Speaker 4: underutilized you center right here where my brother died. He
- 16:40Speaker 4: literally died in that and we have no plans to
- 16:42Speaker 4: revive it. Why don't y'all figure out how we can
- 16:44Speaker 4: work together since we're applying for this grant. We did that,
- 16:48Speaker 4: the city council voted it down. Okay, cool. So I
- 16:51Speaker 4: went out, we have my nonprofit applied for the grant,
- 16:54Speaker 4: and the governor granted us thirteen million dollars to could
- 16:56Speaker 4: shout the Governor, Gavin Newsom, And now we're building a
- 16:59Speaker 4: use in my district for kids that now has a
- 17:03Speaker 4: mental health component because thanks to you and friends, I'm
- 17:05Speaker 4: in therapy and I see the value of making sure
- 17:08Speaker 4: that we are working through not just generational trauma, but
- 17:10Speaker 4: the stuff we're going through every day. So now there's
- 17:12Speaker 4: like a twenty bad respite party to this, so when
- 17:16Speaker 4: kids are in crisis, they also have a place to
- 17:17Speaker 4: stay while they go through their daily programming.
- 17:19Speaker 2: So you've'm trying to build a negative narrative.
- 17:21Speaker 5: I was about to say, that's a fifty million dollar conversations.
- 17:23Speaker 1: So now there's this.
- 17:24Speaker 4: So now this Democrat vice mayor is getting fifty eight
- 17:28Speaker 4: million dollars from the council that he sits in. It's
- 17:30Speaker 4: all lies but that. But thank god, I'm working with Meta.
- 17:33Speaker 4: I emailed Adam and I'm talking to Meta and we're
- 17:37Speaker 4: we're deleting, you know, we're having pages removed and striking
- 17:41Speaker 4: where misinformation lives to protect the truth.
- 17:44Speaker 6: Why do you think they keep coming for you because
- 17:46Speaker 6: I'm powerful.
- 17:46Speaker 4: I am a black, former foster kid, gay man that
- 17:50Speaker 4: don't give a shit about none of them games that
- 17:52Speaker 4: they play like. I told them everything they've already said
- 17:54Speaker 4: about me. You know, I was on the Breakfast Club
- 17:56Speaker 4: where I talked years ago, where I said, oh, when
- 17:58Speaker 4: I was drunk in Mexico.
- 17:59Speaker 1: They said I was a heroin you know. You know,
- 18:01Speaker 1: if I say it, I date younger than me.
- 18:02Speaker 4: I'm forty eight if I date somebody thirty five, if
- 18:05Speaker 4: I say I date younger, I'm a pedophile. So like,
- 18:06Speaker 4: no matter what narratives, they've already said it all. So
- 18:10Speaker 4: I look at it like who wants it and where
- 18:11Speaker 4: we want to start and how, and I'm going to
- 18:13Speaker 4: see it all the way through. And I think that
- 18:16Speaker 4: the fifty eight million thing I think right now one
- 18:18Speaker 4: of the one of the county supervisors. I said to him,
- 18:21Speaker 4: why haven't you guys given me public credit for the
- 18:23Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty eight million dollars that I brought
- 18:25Speaker 4: to the county?
- 18:26Speaker 1: Why haven't you mentioned it? And he said, I'll be
- 18:28Speaker 1: honest with you.
- 18:29Speaker 4: You're you're you're getting too politically powerful, and you're scaring people, like.
- 18:32Speaker 5: Really because even the way they shape this right, it's
- 18:35Speaker 5: like the headline is like, you form this NGO, you
- 18:38Speaker 5: act for the fifty eight million dollars. You would have
- 18:40Speaker 5: been on the same board that approved it, So it
- 18:41Speaker 5: makes it look like there's like fraudulent thing, right, But
- 18:44Speaker 5: then there is an update where you're giving that twelve
- 18:47Speaker 5: point four thirteen million dollars. It's just less than what
- 18:49Speaker 5: you were actually given. So the like, can you explain what.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Happened was so.
- 18:53Speaker 4: What happened was so I when I amassed a lot
- 18:56Speaker 4: of success, I got into therapy and got sober, and
- 18:58Speaker 4: I saw the influence I had.
- 19:00Speaker 1: You know, you're in the White House.
- 19:01Speaker 4: You went from Foster Care to Forbes, Like you literally
- 19:03Speaker 4: are moving in spaces. God is working through me. I
- 19:07Speaker 4: need to do more so so to who much is
- 19:10Speaker 4: given much required. I started a nonprofit called Hollywood Cares
- 19:12Speaker 4: because I have so many friends. Whether it's y'all, whether it's.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Whoever get jealous, Queen Weekend.
- 19:21Speaker 1: You don't like, I don't care.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Qu Rihanna, that's like, oh wow, Carty, he's a friend.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, I mean going on.
- 19:30Speaker 4: But like Kevin Hart, you know, but you got the
- 19:34Speaker 4: same one. I really be like, God, damn, Franash is
- 19:41Speaker 4: so obsessed with you. I don't understand the obsession I
- 19:44Speaker 4: told you about that. I mean I look at Charlemagne
- 19:47Speaker 4: as like, like literally Charlamagne and the god of what
- 19:49Speaker 4: I do. This is somebody who you know, you're in
- 19:52Speaker 4: it in a level where I was, and you're you're
- 19:54Speaker 4: going to get to where I am and get to
- 19:56Speaker 4: where it is. It's a lineage of leaders in this
- 19:59Speaker 4: thing who really do it and who have a fearless
- 20:02Speaker 4: approach to it. And it's hard to do what we
- 20:04Speaker 4: do if you have an opinion, they're coming for you, everybody,
- 20:08Speaker 4: and it be our people too that want to cannibalize
- 20:09Speaker 4: you too, and sometimes even more.
- 20:11Speaker 1: But anyway, it's another story. But I had to. I
- 20:14Speaker 1: handled it for us, you know, for all of us. Okay,
- 20:17Speaker 1: But back so Hollywood Cares.
- 20:20Speaker 4: There's so many people in Hollywood that care about young people,
- 20:23Speaker 4: but they may not know where to put their money
- 20:25Speaker 4: or where to use the resource, or how to use
- 20:26Speaker 4: their platform. So a Cardi b that has one hundred
- 20:28Speaker 4: and sixty something million followers may not want to make
- 20:30Speaker 4: a donation, but she may want to amplify it on
- 20:32Speaker 4: her social Somebody over at Puma may not have, you know,
- 20:36Speaker 4: the social capital, but they may want to put the
- 20:38Speaker 4: money in. Or a person like an Aside Rocky who
- 20:40Speaker 4: has a partnership with Puma may want to do both.
- 20:42Speaker 4: So I've created Hollywood Cares to get Hollywood who cares
- 20:46Speaker 4: about young people to have a place, a destination to
- 20:48Speaker 4: put in.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Their resource, time support platform.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Rihanna actually hosted the launch the dinner for that and
- 20:55Speaker 4: that was when I was running and I had my
- 20:57Speaker 4: six year old campaign manager in or whatever, and we
- 20:59Speaker 4: do you know, we did it really good leadership programs
- 21:01Speaker 4: and stuff in my community for that Well, once we
- 21:04Speaker 4: were applying for the grant, when I said to the city,
- 21:08Speaker 4: if you all want a partner, go ahead and talk
- 21:09Speaker 4: to the nonprofit. I already had stepped down from the
- 21:12Speaker 4: nonprofit as the CEO.
- 21:13Speaker 1: I'm on the board, y'all talking. If it works, figure
- 21:16Speaker 1: it out.
- 21:16Speaker 4: They talked the manager at the time, found a pathway
- 21:19Speaker 4: to them working together.
- 21:20Speaker 1: They brought it before the council.
- 21:21Speaker 4: The law requires me to recuse myself, which I did
- 21:23Speaker 4: not participate in the vote, which I did, and disclose
- 21:26Speaker 4: the relationship, which I did. The council voted to not
- 21:29Speaker 4: move forward because they were like, we don't even want
- 21:31Speaker 4: an appearance of a conflict. No problem. Well, in that process,
- 21:36Speaker 4: because of the evaluation of the building and the grant,
- 21:39Speaker 4: the staff said we could apply up to fifty eight million,
- 21:43Speaker 4: we only were applying for fourteen million, So they ended
- 21:46Speaker 4: up not moving forward. And then we found a plot
- 21:49Speaker 4: of land in my district and there we put money
- 21:52Speaker 4: down on it and we got it and we secured
- 21:53Speaker 4: the grant. So now we got thirteen million dollars to
- 21:55Speaker 4: build in my district. It has nothing to do with
- 21:56Speaker 4: the city. It's just in the city. So this is
- 21:59Speaker 4: just a hit piece because I think people see me
- 22:01Speaker 4: moving and I got motion h and and I think
- 22:05Speaker 4: that they don't know what my political interest is for
- 22:07Speaker 4: the future. And it's not even about people doing research.
- 22:10Speaker 1: It's just the headline.
- 22:11Speaker 3: And I think anytime they see funding going to black
- 22:13Speaker 3: and brown kids anywhere right now, oh, they come in to.
- 22:17Speaker 2: Try to, you know, either make it look shady or
- 22:20Speaker 2: stop it.
- 22:21Speaker 4: You know, there was a certain level of ignorance. I
- 22:23Speaker 4: think when I was here last time, when you said,
- 22:24Speaker 4: aren't you worried they're gonna try something with you? You
- 22:27Speaker 4: saw me, I was like, stayle trying it with me
- 22:28Speaker 4: because in my mind, in the industry, people know, like,
- 22:31Speaker 4: you know, he's petty, and he will he will fight,
- 22:35Speaker 4: he will come for you. And I thought, these people
- 22:37Speaker 4: help get elected, ain't gonna do it. Not not hometown,
- 22:40Speaker 4: not not not not the people who love me. What
- 22:43Speaker 4: what I learned is everybody, everybody can get it. Everybody
- 22:47Speaker 4: can get it.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And so what I'm having to find myself is like
- 22:49Speaker 1: I'll not be heartless, but I can't have the heart
- 22:52Speaker 1: for these individuals that I'm working with like I do
- 22:55Speaker 1: you or you all, because they are heartless. These people
- 22:58Speaker 1: are literally for self preservation. And you know, I went
- 23:01Speaker 1: on my social media and I said, the mayor, who's
- 23:03Speaker 1: a white woman, loves our penises and not our policies.
- 23:06Speaker 1: She played it at the city council meeting. I says,
- 23:08Speaker 1: start it over and turn it up.
- 23:09Speaker 4: They can't even And then they played it and I said,
- 23:11Speaker 4: I stand by everything I said because you will objectify us, sexualizes,
- 23:15Speaker 4: but when it comes to standing with us on things
- 23:16Speaker 4: that matter to us, you're nowhere to be found. So
- 23:19Speaker 4: don't play the whole. My man is black, my god
- 23:21Speaker 4: daughter's black, my best friends black.
- 23:23Speaker 1: Hurt. All of that, we heard it all.
- 23:25Speaker 4: How are we voting on house affordable housing, How are
- 23:27Speaker 4: we voting on restoring police substations or supporting community policing.
- 23:31Speaker 4: How are we doing the things that we got elected
- 23:33Speaker 4: to do. All of that is just a distraction. So
- 23:36Speaker 4: the other day I'm here, I'm traveling from Saint Lucia.
- 23:39Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I'm gonna do city council from New York.
- 23:40Speaker 4: I did the postings. I did everything. She brought me
- 23:43Speaker 4: from the city council meeting because I didn't post it
- 23:45Speaker 4: in in the hotel.
- 23:46Speaker 5: Oh, so when you were walking you posted that video.
- 23:49Speaker 5: It was so that you could be in line with
- 23:50Speaker 5: the rules. I thought you were just letting us know
- 23:52Speaker 5: what you were doing.
- 23:52Speaker 1: No, I posted.
- 23:54Speaker 4: So the law requires us to post it on the
- 23:56Speaker 4: city website and to make an announcement in the city
- 23:58Speaker 4: where you're going to be. So that way, if some
- 23:59Speaker 4: of my constituents are here, they can come over to
- 24:01Speaker 4: the hotel wherever I'm at.
- 24:02Speaker 1: So I did that. Well, there's a technicality.
- 24:05Speaker 4: Now you're supposed to put the agenda on the wall
- 24:08Speaker 4: in the hotel. I didn't do that, so she actually
- 24:10Speaker 4: barred me from attend to me. So they're eating her
- 24:12Speaker 4: up right now, because, like I said, you're shutting out
- 24:15Speaker 4: fifty thousand voters from being represented. It's not just me
- 24:17Speaker 4: you're attacking me, but you're attacking the voters. So it's
- 24:20Speaker 4: backfiring on them. And they can't beat me at the
- 24:22Speaker 4: they can't beat me at the online game.
- 24:24Speaker 2: I saw you in Saint Lucia and my cousin Chloy.
- 24:26Speaker 2: You know, she Damn lived there.
- 24:27Speaker 4: I know she she she's amazing. I love her Ann
- 24:30Speaker 4: Hally and her Churmet. They looked out for us. Yeah,
- 24:32Speaker 4: we popped We popped up on Brandy and Monica. It
- 24:35Speaker 4: was great, it was It was a much needed break
- 24:37Speaker 4: because my mind right now, it's like there's so much
- 24:39Speaker 4: going on, full time career, all the ambitions, the show
- 24:42Speaker 4: I got going on, this new relationship with BT, my
- 24:44Speaker 4: award show coming up, which all of you invited.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I don't know. You still haven't told me if you're
- 24:47Speaker 1: coming fit that y'all are invited.
- 24:53Speaker 4: Yeah, so so you know, there's a lot going on,
- 24:56Speaker 4: but I had to go out there to take some time.
- 24:58Speaker 3: Hollywood Unlocked Impact Awards, hosted by Tiffany Hattish. Of course,
- 25:03Speaker 3: you know, Hollywood Cares Foundation is a nonprofit attached to it,
- 25:06Speaker 3: and you got a great line up again this year.
- 25:09Speaker 3: We don't give Jason Lee enough credit for this award
- 25:12Speaker 3: show that you've created on your own that has better people.
- 25:17Speaker 2: I don't wanna say real award shows, you know, traditional
- 25:19Speaker 2: award shows.
- 25:20Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't even announced, but Chloe's actually opening the show.
- 25:23Speaker 1: Oh okay, so yeah I did.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Yeah, right, baby Face is the musical director Tyler Perry
- 25:30Speaker 3: is getting awarded with the Innovative Award, Colonney with the
- 25:32Speaker 3: Fearlessness Award, Kirk Franklin Inspiration Award, Making Good with the
- 25:35Speaker 3: Spirit Award, and Rizza with.
- 25:36Speaker 4: The Yeah, we have a couple more surprises I'm excited about.
- 25:39Speaker 4: We're also doing a tribute to I haven't shared this
- 25:42Speaker 4: bout share here. We're doing a tribute to Richard Smallwood.
- 25:45Speaker 4: You know, I put gospel in every one of our
- 25:47Speaker 4: shows because I do love God.
- 25:49Speaker 1: I mean I have.
- 25:49Speaker 4: I know that I'm a testimony of having faith and
- 25:53Speaker 4: living by faith, and all of the trials and tribulations
- 25:55Speaker 4: I've been through, I know that God has had his
- 25:58Speaker 4: hand on me, and so I've intentioned only made sure
- 26:01Speaker 4: that I keep that in there. So we're doing a
- 26:04Speaker 4: tribute to Richard small When I'm excited about that, How do.
- 26:06Speaker 6: You guys determine? You know who you're going to honor
- 26:08Speaker 6: the winners and everything you do well?
- 26:11Speaker 4: Literally, in my interview with the Riza and Wu Tang
- 26:13Speaker 4: clan being so iconic to all of us who love
- 26:15Speaker 4: hip hop and just see all of like what it's
- 26:18Speaker 4: done for the for our for music and for our
- 26:21Speaker 4: community and stuff over the years, and to know like
- 26:23Speaker 4: they're on their final tour. Literally in the interview, I
- 26:27Speaker 4: was like, yo, I want to give this guy the
- 26:28Speaker 4: culture war. When he said in the interview that he
- 26:30Speaker 4: had never been that they'd never want to Grammy, I
- 26:33Speaker 4: put him in a text with Harvey Mason like.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Yo, y'all got to fix that, Like we have to.
- 26:36Speaker 4: We have to do something to continue to like amplify
- 26:39Speaker 4: the people that are really doing it. Not to say
- 26:41Speaker 4: these TikTok rappers are not doing it, but I do
- 26:43Speaker 4: feel like music has gone in a way where, you know,
- 26:45Speaker 4: when he said some of the bars on the show,
- 26:47Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, we're that's that to me, is the
- 26:50Speaker 4: storytelling that the Tupacs or the biggies or whatever we're
- 26:53Speaker 4: doing in methad mans and so forth. So Rizza was
- 26:55Speaker 4: it was a no brainer. Tyler Perry, I feel like Tyler,
- 26:59Speaker 4: you know, I remember when me and Kevin Hart had
- 27:01Speaker 4: our thing and Charlot Mane was like, you know, Kevin
- 27:03Speaker 4: actually does a lot for the black community, and I
- 27:06Speaker 4: didn't really like know until I got to know him.
- 27:08Speaker 1: With Tyler.
- 27:09Speaker 4: I remember when Whitney Houston died, he put her body
- 27:11Speaker 4: on the plane to get it to a family. I
- 27:13Speaker 4: see how he's moving and supporting a lot of people.
- 27:15Speaker 4: Lizzo called me yesterday and then while we're talking, she's like, yeah,
- 27:19Speaker 4: I just got the phone with Tyler. I had to
- 27:20Speaker 4: call him for advice. And you know, he you know,
- 27:22Speaker 4: that's just who he is. But when you look at
- 27:25Speaker 4: what he's been able to do and creating stories and
- 27:28Speaker 4: jobs for people to tell those stories, and then now
- 27:31Speaker 4: to see the shift in the disinvestment of black media
- 27:35Speaker 4: and black entrepreneurs, I'm like, yo, this isn't the innovator.
- 27:37Speaker 4: So you know, I choose who I want to honor.
- 27:41Speaker 4: I think Breakfast Club was the first Culture World recipient,
- 27:44Speaker 4: which over there and and uh and it's not an
- 27:48Speaker 4: ego thing and it's not about me, And it's about
- 27:50Speaker 4: literally just lifting up people that I think are really important.
- 27:53Speaker 2: I don't underst know why BTO.
- 27:57Speaker 4: I mean, because we're we're happily in partner ship with ZEUS,
- 28:00Speaker 4: so black owned network, so we're happy to be the
- 28:02Speaker 4: only black owned award show on a black owned network.
- 28:05Speaker 4: And Lemeo, you know, although I moved my show from
- 28:07Speaker 4: ZEUS to BT, Lemeo has been my favorite partner to
- 28:11Speaker 4: work with because he is fully invested in any idea
- 28:15Speaker 4: I want, and he lets me do whatever I want
- 28:17Speaker 4: and he trusts me.
- 28:19Speaker 1: And so we talked the other day.
- 28:20Speaker 4: I was giving him updates on who's being honored, and
- 28:22Speaker 4: he doesn't ask who's being honored because he just really
- 28:24Speaker 4: trusts my decisions.
- 28:26Speaker 5: Did you at one point even try to take it
- 28:28Speaker 5: to BET, though, Like I wonder if they think it
- 28:30Speaker 5: would compete with their awards?
- 28:31Speaker 4: Well, BT used to have BET Honors back in the day,
- 28:34Speaker 4: and I loved what they what they created. I think
- 28:37Speaker 4: you know, when I first got in the game, it
- 28:40Speaker 4: was shot him and Dana and Shelby Stone who took
- 28:42Speaker 4: me over to BT to bring the Jason Lee Show
- 28:44Speaker 4: to life. But I didn't even have Hollywood on Locke
- 28:46Speaker 4: at the time, really, so I wasn't even really ready.
- 28:48Speaker 1: But she believed in me.
- 28:49Speaker 4: They believed in me, and BT wasn't ready, and so
- 28:52Speaker 4: I just kind of did you know, love and hip
- 28:54Speaker 4: hop on BT or VH one. Then I did wild'n
- 28:57Speaker 4: Out on MTV and built the relationship with them, But
- 28:59Speaker 4: then I I left and just start doing my own
- 29:01Speaker 4: thing because for them, they like to own everything. That's
- 29:03Speaker 4: why I love the fact that my show's over there now,
- 29:05Speaker 4: the Jason Lee Show, I still own it. It's a
- 29:07Speaker 4: licensing deal and I've never had to sell my creativity
- 29:11Speaker 4: to anybody, So I've gone where i can get the money,
- 29:14Speaker 4: get the audience, do some audience jacking, really build and
- 29:16Speaker 4: invest in ownership.
- 29:18Speaker 1: And that's why I'm happy today.
- 29:19Speaker 4: I own ninety percent of my company, all of my
- 29:21Speaker 4: content I've ever shot, and now I'm getting in the
- 29:24Speaker 4: acquisition game because I'm getting to age where I want
- 29:26Speaker 4: to retire at some point in the not too long
- 29:28Speaker 4: future and be able to do it right.
- 29:31Speaker 2: BC. Just give you the Black and Iconical World Tour. Yeah.
- 29:34Speaker 4: May twenty third, which is the day my brother who died,
- 29:37Speaker 4: is his birthday. I'll be at DC Pride. Yeah, getting
- 29:40Speaker 4: that award from BT. So they're starting to give me
- 29:43Speaker 4: my flowers. It is, I do see it now. The
- 29:45Speaker 4: people are reaching out to know we'd like to honor here,
- 29:46Speaker 4: which is cool, but I'm going to make sure to
- 29:48Speaker 4: use every time I get those honors to just continue
- 29:51Speaker 4: to remind people that we all out here, you know,
- 29:53Speaker 4: like thank you for giving it to me, but like
- 29:55Speaker 4: we all out here and we're all important. And that's
- 29:58Speaker 4: why I love being here every time I I'm here
- 30:00Speaker 4: because this is like, was one of my goals when
- 30:02Speaker 4: I was getting there, like okay, I got to get
- 30:03Speaker 4: your purpose. And I got here, and I've been here
- 30:06Speaker 4: several times.
- 30:06Speaker 5: I remember when I used to well, when things will
- 30:09Speaker 5: be exploding back at my old job and you'll be
- 30:11Speaker 5: calling me and I'd be like, Jason, why do you
- 30:13Speaker 5: care so much about this? Because you're doing so well,
- 30:15Speaker 5: like you are such an icon in your own right,
- 30:17Speaker 5: and You'll be like, yeah, but it's important for people
- 30:19Speaker 5: to respect the work I'm doing. Now that I'm out
- 30:21Speaker 5: here on my own, I understand your explosions a bit like.
- 30:25Speaker 4: I I caught you and told you I was going
- 30:27Speaker 4: to slap my babcock because Mike Babcock Again, some of
- 30:32Speaker 4: these people who pray on our culture and who you know,
- 30:35Speaker 4: want to use our material, our creativity, but not give
- 30:38Speaker 4: us the credit or the respect that I had a
- 30:41Speaker 4: problem with. Obviously, I have a better relationship with TMZ
- 30:43Speaker 4: now and there's mutual respect, and I see that they're
- 30:45Speaker 4: you know, they're they're a behemoth in what they do.
- 30:47Speaker 4: But when you can't launch TMZ hip hop and talk
- 30:50Speaker 4: about this person that's not even hip hop, it's just
- 30:54Speaker 4: TMC black. It's like, let me do Forbes black, No
- 30:56Speaker 4: shout out to Forbes, dude, just throwing black and culture
- 30:59Speaker 4: on it.
- 30:59Speaker 1: Don't make it the culture.
- 31:00Speaker 4: The reason why this is called the Breakfast Club and
- 31:03Speaker 4: it's the biggest culture platform why because it's not you know,
- 31:06Speaker 4: it's authentically real. And I think that with TMZ, I
- 31:10Speaker 4: was like, Yo, if you want to do TMZ unlocked,
- 31:11Speaker 4: let's build a collaborative partnership. But then that means you
- 31:14Speaker 4: have to invest money, resource, platform, distribution, and they don't
- 31:17Speaker 4: want to do that because, like I told somebody yesterday,
- 31:19Speaker 4: I could put one post on Hollywood un Locked and
- 31:21Speaker 4: change the value or direction of any anybody brand or
- 31:25Speaker 4: business in a minute. So that's power that they don't
- 31:28Speaker 4: want us to have. They don't want to see you
- 31:29Speaker 4: on Stephen Colbert. They don't want to see you have
- 31:31Speaker 4: your own shows here there, or your books because it's
- 31:33Speaker 4: like you're doing the thing that we prevented slaves from
- 31:37Speaker 4: getting power. We took their books from them. So you're
- 31:39Speaker 4: going to be an author. Now you're going to bring all
- 31:40Speaker 4: these authors up in you and all these books. We
- 31:42Speaker 4: don't want people that look like us to be educated
- 31:45Speaker 4: because a educated Nigro is the most scariest thing to
- 31:50Speaker 4: some people, which I don't understand. So yeah, I used
- 31:52Speaker 4: to be mad, and you know, and I used to
- 31:55Speaker 4: be you know, why can't I go on this show?
- 31:56Speaker 1: Why can't I do whatever?
- 31:57Speaker 4: And when I was fighting to get a daytime talk show,
- 31:59Speaker 4: and I remember see even Brown and Fox saying you
- 32:00Speaker 4: don't need to do that because you already got your show.
- 32:02Speaker 4: I thought that was him putting me down, saying I
- 32:05Speaker 4: wasn't worthy. But what I see was I actually was
- 32:08Speaker 4: already doing what everybody's trying to do now.
- 32:10Speaker 3: That was always five years ahead. Yeah, I always tell
- 32:14Speaker 3: Laurne that about the TMS thing. I always thought the
- 32:15Speaker 3: TMS hip hop thing was weird because hip hop is
- 32:18Speaker 3: a specific thing.
- 32:19Speaker 2: Right.
- 32:20Speaker 3: If what you want to do is black news, yes,
- 32:22Speaker 3: so called it hip hop, wy, don't you just partner
- 32:23Speaker 3: with a shade partner.
- 32:24Speaker 4: Because white people see hip hop and go black. I
- 32:27Speaker 4: mean that's why I think they think that's right.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Thing.
- 32:29Speaker 4: Right, When you see Nina Parker when she was over there,
- 32:32Speaker 4: she had the motion.
- 32:33Speaker 1: When you were over there, you had the motion. It's
- 32:36Speaker 1: like Lauren not so much, but Ena and van Van,
- 32:40Speaker 1: you know, like you and Lauren because you were valuable
- 32:44Speaker 1: enough to make it up here.
- 32:45Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like one of the things that
- 32:47Speaker 5: I learned during that whole TMZ hip hop time because
- 32:49Speaker 5: I used to feel like, how am I sitting right
- 32:51Speaker 5: here and y'all start this whole branch. You come to
- 32:54Speaker 5: me and talk to me about who you should cast,
- 32:55Speaker 5: But I've never get included in any of the conversation.
- 32:58Speaker 1: You're basically as a black woman saying why am I invisible?
- 33:00Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, but Nina wasn't invisible. I told you
- 33:02Speaker 2: she didn't have no value.
- 33:03Speaker 5: Well hold on, but no, there was a conversation that
- 33:06Speaker 5: Nina had to have with them eventually because they weren't
- 33:09Speaker 5: doing by her what she felt like they should do.
- 33:11Speaker 5: And I just started understanding things so differently at that moment.
- 33:14Speaker 5: I'm like, this is why when I'm fighting for them
- 33:17Speaker 5: to credit Hollywood a lot, Jason is like, that's important
- 33:19Speaker 5: because yeah, like, if you have the power, you could
- 33:21Speaker 5: do whatever you want. You can stump wherever you want
- 33:23Speaker 5: and no one ever checks it. And it made me
- 33:25Speaker 5: just think about you and all the shade rooms and
- 33:28Speaker 5: just so differently, like I understood y'all worth, but it
- 33:31Speaker 5: made me be like, this is what we should be
- 33:33Speaker 5: focused on. Like I'm in the wrong business.
- 33:35Speaker 1: A little bit.
- 33:35Speaker 2: I agree with Laura.
- 33:36Speaker 3: I give Jason more credit though, because a lot of
- 33:38Speaker 3: these sites were just happy being blogs and site like
- 33:42Speaker 3: you actually took the model of the tmzs and made
- 33:44Speaker 3: it bigger than just a website, bigger than just the
- 33:47Speaker 3: Instagram Paige.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Yeah, well, because, yeah, I mean what I'm fighting for.
- 33:51Speaker 4: I remember on this show talking about like black journalists
- 33:54Speaker 4: not being respected on red carpets, and I remember them
- 33:56Speaker 4: watching Kevin Hart and Tiviney How to Go and Stop
- 33:58Speaker 4: to Talk to Black journeys.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Saw Rihanna pour into the black and I asked her
- 34:03Speaker 1: the other night, I go, did you know who that.
- 34:06Speaker 4: That journalist was? And she said, no, I didn't know
- 34:08Speaker 4: who she was. She goes, I was walking and there
- 34:10Speaker 4: was I looked over and there was a light on her,
- 34:12Speaker 4: and I was gravitated to go over and pour into her.
- 34:14Speaker 4: But like that's just that that that meant a lot
- 34:17Speaker 4: to that woman, not just what she went through with
- 34:19Speaker 4: her her husband dying, but like to be seen like
- 34:22Speaker 4: we're I made the joke saying, as a black woman,
- 34:24Speaker 4: I can't believe you're shocked that you were invisible.
- 34:26Speaker 1: They were all invisible to a certain degree.
- 34:28Speaker 4: Unless you're loud loud, not yelling, but like provocative, you
- 34:33Speaker 4: have an opinion, you have a point of view, You're fearless.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I mean, I get hit all day long still, but
- 34:39Speaker 1: I mean.
- 34:39Speaker 4: I gotta just you know, I gotta stay the sobriety
- 34:42Speaker 4: thing you was talking about, I didn't give you no
- 34:43Speaker 4: credit then you you when you were like, yo, you
- 34:46Speaker 4: know why you mean a mad all the time, like
- 34:47Speaker 4: you need to get in therapy or whatever. I was
- 34:49Speaker 4: so inundated with life and I was so like cocked
- 34:54Speaker 4: and loaded pause ready to go at all times that
- 34:57Speaker 4: I couldn't even see like I deserve.
- 34:59Speaker 2: You, Like I remember seeing you at Tiffany party. I'm like, yo,
- 35:03Speaker 2: what is wrong with Jason? Like why why was you
- 35:06Speaker 2: so on edge?
- 35:06Speaker 4: Like because I feel like people didn't see like and
- 35:10Speaker 4: I was saying this yesterday. I mean, I'm gonna give
- 35:12Speaker 4: you all this in y'all because it's not live right, No, okay,
- 35:14Speaker 4: So y'all can end this out for you if you
- 35:16Speaker 4: want to I was.
- 35:17Speaker 1: I did ebro show. Yes, I just want to tell you, Okay, So.
- 35:20Speaker 4: I did Ebro's show yesterday because I had went off
- 35:22Speaker 4: on Drink Champs about Peter Rosenberg being a cancer to
- 35:25Speaker 4: our culture and being a culture vulture whatever, and I
- 35:27Speaker 4: think they thought me coming on the show that I
- 35:29Speaker 4: was going to switch up and have a different opinion.
- 35:31Speaker 4: I talked about his dogs being ugly. I talked about
- 35:33Speaker 4: him all these different things whatever. I was there, the
- 35:36Speaker 4: dogs were there. I've never even seen the dogs. I
- 35:37Speaker 4: don't even care ugly.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I just I just I was in my thing. I was,
- 35:41Speaker 1: I was, I was.
- 35:42Speaker 4: I was in my thing where it was like, you know,
- 35:45Speaker 4: stuff just be rolling out, like your dogs are ugly.
- 35:47Speaker 4: My dogs are cutter than yours. Like you're you know
- 35:49Speaker 4: you're you're an employee. Don't talk to a boss like that,
- 35:51Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's when I used to
- 35:53Speaker 4: be in my thing and I and I could still
- 35:54Speaker 4: go there. But I was saying to them, like, you
- 35:57Speaker 4: don't know how it is when you're independent media on
- 35:59Speaker 4: your you have this rise Firstu's real slow, and it's slow,
- 36:03Speaker 4: and all the doubt creeps in, like you're not good enough,
- 36:05Speaker 4: you're never gonna get it.
- 36:06Speaker 1: They don't see you. You're not valuable, you're not worthy.
- 36:08Speaker 4: Then an imposter syndrome getting when you start getting rooms,
- 36:10Speaker 4: You're like, how do I even get here?
- 36:11Speaker 1: I don't belong. They're gonna catch me, They're gonna kick
- 36:13Speaker 1: me out.
- 36:14Speaker 4: Then when you get it and somebody try to take
- 36:15Speaker 4: it from you, like hold on a minute, now, you're
- 36:18Speaker 4: always ready, Just like now in politics, I'm more ready
- 36:21Speaker 4: now because even last.
- 36:22Speaker 1: Week one of my colleagues said, oh, this is somebod's
- 36:24Speaker 1: potting on you.
- 36:24Speaker 4: I said, come on, because I'm coming after all of
- 36:26Speaker 4: your dogs, your kids, your husband, you're all, your dad
- 36:27Speaker 4: and grandma.
- 36:28Speaker 1: All that.
- 36:29Speaker 4: But I was always on edge. When I got in
- 36:31Speaker 4: therapy and decided to go sober almost three years ago,
- 36:34Speaker 4: it was like I am worthy of peace. I am
- 36:37Speaker 4: worthy of being calm and having the ability to think,
- 36:42Speaker 4: because I wasn't even able to think back then.
- 36:44Speaker 1: When you saw me at that party, I was like,
- 36:46Speaker 1: who's in the room, Who's gonna try it? Who?
- 36:48Speaker 4: I always have to be ready, and I'm in that
- 36:52Speaker 4: place now, but in a much more healthier place. And
- 36:55Speaker 4: because I have the platform that has so much influence
- 36:57Speaker 4: I can't. I can't pop off the way I was
- 37:00Speaker 4: before because I look at some of my old content,
- 37:01Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, he was a lot.
- 37:04Speaker 1: So I'm not all mad at.
- 37:05Speaker 4: People who have felt a certain way about me, but
- 37:08Speaker 4: I am mad at our community that just sums up
- 37:11Speaker 4: somebody based on a clip or a moment or an era.
- 37:13Speaker 4: Like everybody should deserves redemption or deserves like to be
- 37:18Speaker 4: able to.
- 37:19Speaker 1: Grow, unless you want me to stay there, And then
- 37:21Speaker 1: you don't want that either.
- 37:22Speaker 5: So sometimes people do want that though, because they think
- 37:24Speaker 5: that that's their way of controlling how far you go
- 37:26Speaker 5: in comparison to where they're trying to go. Because a
- 37:28Speaker 5: lot of times people are admiring what you're doing too.
- 37:30Speaker 4: I mean, God is a part of the recipe though,
- 37:32Speaker 4: So like unless you can't get in, you can't. You
- 37:35Speaker 4: can't take a person I sit here today as the
- 37:37Speaker 4: vice mayor of the city who I lived in and
- 37:40Speaker 4: stood over my brother's body who died to know what
- 37:44Speaker 4: rock bottom feels like, to know like it's like we're
- 37:47Speaker 4: talking right now and I walk out the door and
- 37:49Speaker 4: die right there, Like you didn't prepare for that. Your
- 37:51Speaker 4: mind can't even understand it, And especially when this person
- 37:54Speaker 4: means a lot to you, so to be able to
- 37:55Speaker 4: go back. Now, I'm in the city fighting for a kid.
- 37:57Speaker 4: We just had a mass shooting where kids were murdered somebody.
- 38:00Speaker 4: They ran in a two year old kid's birthday party
- 38:02Speaker 4: and killed these people's kids. So instead of me acting
- 38:06Speaker 4: like a politician, I call Whack and I'm like, yo,
- 38:08Speaker 4: I need help. I need somebody in our community who
- 38:10Speaker 4: will pay for these kids funerals. And Burner Boy shot
- 38:12Speaker 4: to him paid for the funerals. And it's like, I'm
- 38:14Speaker 4: gonna do what I could do to have the influence
- 38:16Speaker 4: I can. But God is he was a part of that.
- 38:19Speaker 4: Some people will say, well, Whack one hundred Da da
- 38:20Speaker 4: da da da. He's that's somebody I can lean on
- 38:23Speaker 4: that I know whatever I need to get done is going.
- 38:25Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you about that. Was there an update?
- 38:26Speaker 6: Did they ever arrest anyone? What's the latest on that?
- 38:29Speaker 1: Yes, I talked to the sheriff last week.
- 38:31Speaker 4: You know, I'm not going to talk about all the details,
- 38:33Speaker 4: but I'll say that I feel very confident in him
- 38:36Speaker 4: and our district attorney that they're going to do what
- 38:38Speaker 4: everybody's expecting them to.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Do, but you know, we have to change the culture.
- 38:42Speaker 4: Like you actually put on a mask and stood outside
- 38:45Speaker 4: a two year old's birthday party and went in and
- 38:46Speaker 4: just started shooting everybody.
- 38:47Speaker 1: They shot fifteen people, you know these kids.
- 38:50Speaker 4: One of the kids Amari. He looked like little Jason.
- 38:53Speaker 4: He was fourteen basketball player, athlete.
- 38:55Speaker 1: He was funny, you know.
- 38:57Speaker 4: Jason when he got shot, was fifteen. Like I'm looking
- 38:59Speaker 4: at him, like. I went to his funeral and I.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Sat with the sheriff, and I had this whole crazy thing.
- 39:04Speaker 4: In my mind where like one, I'm with the police,
- 39:06Speaker 4: because you know, I'm still a black man in America.
- 39:08Speaker 1: I'm sitting with the police.
- 39:09Speaker 4: I built a relationship with a sheriff, went throw and
- 39:12Speaker 4: then I'm in this kid's funeral and I'm looking at
- 39:14Speaker 4: a baby's a kid's casket with all these kids sitting
- 39:17Speaker 4: on the ground crying. I mean, it tore me down
- 39:19Speaker 4: because I'm like, yo, like this is the real world.
- 39:22Speaker 4: It's not the mech gallass. Yeah that's too but like
- 39:24Speaker 4: this is what people are really experiencing. And so yeah,
- 39:28Speaker 4: so it did break me down. But I'm trying to
- 39:31Speaker 4: like have the thick skin to be able to stay
- 39:33Speaker 4: present minded and like what I'm doing and what's happening
- 39:35Speaker 4: in real time.
- 39:36Speaker 5: Can we talk about the duality space that you have
- 39:39Speaker 5: to live in, cause you talk about being at that
- 39:40Speaker 5: funeral with the police, you're still a black man in America.
- 39:42Speaker 5: You mentioned a DA's office. Even when we talked about
- 39:45Speaker 5: that NGO, I remember seeing that they're like forwarding whatever
- 39:48Speaker 5: to the Attorney General's office in the DA's office. Right,
- 39:52Speaker 5: But these are also people that you're picking up the
- 39:54Speaker 5: phone and calling when something like that happens. Yes, but
- 39:56Speaker 5: then there's like these investigations or whatever. What's that like
- 40:00Speaker 5: for you?
- 40:00Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I have a great team of attorneys.
- 40:04Speaker 4: I have a great team around me, and you know,
- 40:06Speaker 4: obviously before I do anything, and there's lots of conversations
- 40:10Speaker 4: and lots of questions, you know, when you go through it.
- 40:13Speaker 4: A process of applying for a federal grant, that's a
- 40:17Speaker 4: very thorough process. Lots of reviews, checks balances, I mean,
- 40:20Speaker 4: you have to there's lots of checking off of things.
- 40:23Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about that.
- 40:24Speaker 4: I think for me, it's more about stand in control
- 40:26Speaker 4: of the narrative, making sure that when people ask questions,
- 40:28Speaker 4: I don't dodge them. I don't give a politician answer.
- 40:31Speaker 4: It's like, you know, everything is there, it's all well documented,
- 40:34Speaker 4: and you know I have a good relationship with all
- 40:36Speaker 4: these people. But do I think that, you know, do
- 40:39Speaker 4: I think that I'm above the program? Whatever the program
- 40:41Speaker 4: could be.
- 40:41Speaker 6: No.
- 40:42Speaker 4: But what I do know is that we just have
- 40:44Speaker 4: to stop looking at headlines and believing the first thing,
- 40:46Speaker 4: you see, most people really thought.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Not most people.
- 40:49Speaker 4: I think people that know me knew it was the
- 40:50Speaker 4: wilding out thing was crazy, but some people have believed
- 40:53Speaker 4: in it. And you know, I got off a plane
- 40:55Speaker 4: in a Dominican Republican somebody goes, you didn't take that money,
- 41:00Speaker 4: did you? I go, well, money the Wilent while I man,
- 41:02Speaker 4: if you don't get here. So yeah, I don't think
- 41:04Speaker 4: people do all the research. But yeah, I feel I
- 41:07Speaker 4: feel good about everything.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Jason Lee. Tell them where to follow you.
- 41:11Speaker 1: Jason the Jason Lee Show.
- 41:14Speaker 4: I'm really excited about that right now, our partnership at
- 41:16Speaker 4: BT follow me there, Hollywood Unlocked and yeah, the Only
- 41:19Speaker 4: Jason Lee.
- 41:20Speaker 5: And before you leave, I just want to say thank you.
- 41:22Speaker 5: You were one of my first jobs. I appreciate the
- 41:25Speaker 5: it wasn't a long role, but I appreciate just the experience.
- 41:29Speaker 5: And you know, I was on the street for you
- 41:30Speaker 5: before I was on the street for anybody else. I
- 41:32Speaker 5: always just want to public.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Not like that.
- 41:42Speaker 5: We created a segment, Holly, No, thank you, Jason. I
- 41:48Speaker 5: feel like I talk a lot about TMZ, but there
- 41:50Speaker 5: were like a lot of other moments that led to
- 41:52Speaker 5: that point, and I just want to say things.
- 41:53Speaker 4: But I always tell people like when I watched you hustling,
- 41:56Speaker 4: like hosting that, going out, hosting events, traveling around.
- 41:58Speaker 1: You know, uh, you're so media and all of what
- 42:00Speaker 1: you're doing.
- 42:01Speaker 4: You know again, what God has for you is yours,
- 42:03Speaker 4: like you can't take it from nobody, and when you're
- 42:05Speaker 4: doing the work, you deserve everything that you're getting. I know,
- 42:08Speaker 4: I met Mimi when she was over at was it
- 42:10Speaker 4: wasn't kid as Fox Fox eleven and then in Foxhoul
- 42:14Speaker 4: and you know it's it's we're all.
- 42:15Speaker 1: We all need each other.
- 42:17Speaker 4: And I will just say for the Impact Towards the
- 42:18Speaker 4: Impact Awards was not created to give me a platform
- 42:21Speaker 4: to be talked about. It was to create a platform
- 42:23Speaker 4: to talk about those who are actually doing the work
- 42:25Speaker 4: to keep our culture alive, to inspire people. And what
- 42:28Speaker 4: really frustrates me sometimes is when Yeah, you got baby Faces,
- 42:31Speaker 4: the music director tifnany Hash as a host, you have
- 42:33Speaker 4: Tyler Perry, We've honored Whoopi Goldberg, all these different people,
- 42:35Speaker 4: Cardi and Sharon Stone, where all the black celebrities pull
- 42:40Speaker 4: up like you all will get dressed up like chickens,
- 42:43Speaker 4: raccoons and peacocks and go over to the met Gala,
- 42:46Speaker 4: just so that way white folks can talk about you,
- 42:48Speaker 4: But you don't come to the impact towards because what
- 42:50Speaker 4: because it's black. You need to stop perpetuating this whole
- 42:54Speaker 4: idea that black is not good and white is the
- 42:58Speaker 4: thing you should aspire to be validated from. And look,
- 43:01Speaker 4: everybody's invited you. Everybody could pull up, jay Z, Beyonce,
- 43:04Speaker 4: everybody who wants to pull up for us, and the
- 43:07Speaker 4: culture is more than welcome.
- 43:08Speaker 1: But we're not going to beg nobody. So June fifth,
- 43:10Speaker 1: it's going down.
- 43:11Speaker 2: Jason Lee, it's the breakfast club.
- 43:13Speaker 1: Hold up every day a week ago, click your ass
- 43:17Speaker 1: up the breakfast Club.
- 43:18Speaker 2: You don't finish or y'all done