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Patriots Unfiltered 5/21: Patriots OTA Preview, Latest Team/League Buzz · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: The World's of Vigeon podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it, Bring it on, bring it on
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  Speaker 3: to love it, love it too hot?
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  Speaker 5: Less than a month away from mandatory Mini.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's what happens when you go to the
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowl? Friend? Is that everything? So it gets short,
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  Speaker 6: It gets short in so that it sort of sneaks up.
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  Speaker 5: Gotcha tell me when you've won something?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yep. I mean they did win eleven games with
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  Speaker 4: you know, half a roster last year.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, great, good for them.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to know how I'm supposed to feel after
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  Speaker 4: the Patriots win. Great, you guys just crapped all over
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  Speaker 4: the opponent, meaningless.
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  Speaker 5: Hard to win in the NFL, It's actually not gonna
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  Speaker 5: Those of us.
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  Speaker 4: Sixteen teams do it every week.
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  Speaker 5: Hard to win in the.
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  Speaker 6: NFL sometimes there's bus I think Herbert's a great quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: I love watching them play.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's really good.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, that's great.
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  Speaker 4: He just went it's a really good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe great strong, really good. I think he's good.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's top ten.
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  Speaker 4: all that controversy.
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  Speaker 3: you know, killed somebody because he knows the raps he does.
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  Speaker 4: I told you that his rap game is strong.
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  Speaker 4: That made me uncomfortable, uncomfort and almost never uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 5: I'll keep the sauce in the sex. I just don't
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  Speaker 5: have to kiss.
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  Speaker 3: Patriots Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 5: It is Thursday here at.
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  Speaker 3: A Let's Stadium, and the gang is all here, Evan
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  Speaker 3: and Paul and Mike and Alex and Matt and the booth.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a big, big Thursday show, full house, full house.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody back in this field.
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  Speaker 3: In the full house.
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  Speaker 5: With nothing to talk about?
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  Speaker 3: What are we talking?
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  Speaker 5: We got plenty to talk about. Get what we talked about.
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  Speaker 3: That, and so Mike, you weren't here though, you got
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  Speaker 3: any thoughts on the schedules, because you know what other
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  Speaker 3: teams did and a favorites, uh, favorite games.
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  Speaker 5: No, don't about our schedule.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about the schedule videos that other teams most Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I did watch a few of them. I watched the Rams.
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  Speaker 7: One I kind of like was Napoleon Dynamite one.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that that was that. That was kind of
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  Speaker 1: well done.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, I thought what other one stick out?
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  Speaker 7: I sorry, I was teeing up my brain to talk
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  Speaker 7: about the Patriots schedule, right.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have any answer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to sit here while you figure what
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  Speaker 3: about the Patriots schedule?
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  Speaker 5: What stood out for you?
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  Speaker 6: Now?
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  Speaker 7: I think my my big takeaway was you set a
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  Speaker 7: record for road wins last year. You know, nine and
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  Speaker 7: o on the road, and you know this is is
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  Speaker 7: just another test. So you think you're good on the road.
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  Speaker 7: Let's let's see how good.
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  Speaker 1: You are on the road. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: A lot of a lot of really challenging games. But
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  Speaker 7: you know, one one thing I thought, and I think
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  Speaker 7: I heard Phil Perry saying it was just he felt
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  Speaker 7: like the beginning of the schedule was tough and that
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  Speaker 7: they really need a good I don't really agree with that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I I think that there's plenty of opportunity down the
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  Speaker 7: stretch after the bye week. To you know, you play
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  Speaker 7: three games in your division, you played three games against.
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  Speaker 1: The AFC West, so you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I think he was talking more about like the team
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  Speaker 7: needs a good start so that, you know, I think
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  Speaker 7: he was kind of questioning whether, you know, the Rabel
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  Speaker 7: stuff was gonna play into it.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I just I think they're gonna have the opportunities down
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  Speaker 7: the end, and if they play their best football down
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  Speaker 7: the stretch, they're gonna have something to stay not only
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  Speaker 7: about their own playoff chances, but certainly AFC West playoff
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  Speaker 7: chances as well.
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  Speaker 1: So now those are my general thoughts. Yeah, Okay, tough schedule, though,
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of a lot OF's just tough
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  Speaker 1: for me to Germany and that bye week and then
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  Speaker 1: out to l A like.
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  Speaker 4: That to me is like that felt after a game
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  Speaker 4: in a week ago.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I know, but still it's there's a lot
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  Speaker 6: of We were talking about this yesterday on Ketshwani too.
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of different time zones, a lot of
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  Speaker 6: different days and times of games in that middle party.
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  Speaker 5: That's the NFL now right.
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  Speaker 3: More and more teams are going to see that every
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  Speaker 3: year because of the Thursdays, Fridays and the Wednesdays. It's
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  Speaker 3: inevitable that it's going to be all screwed up going forward.
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  Speaker 6: Like from like that Bears game to the Chiefs game
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  Speaker 6: on that Monday night later in the season. It's like
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  Speaker 6: a Thursday night game, a Germany game, an LA game,
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  Speaker 6: a Monday night game. Like it's just there's no real like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: it's just Sunday at one o'clock for eight straight weeks
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  Speaker 6: like that, doesn't.
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  Speaker 7: I like that stretch though, Like that stretch of one pms,
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  Speaker 7: like you know, I mean, that's that's great fall time
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  Speaker 7: like that. I love the Chiefs game though. I think
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  Speaker 7: that at Chiefs game Monday night football. Have you ever
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  Speaker 7: been to I haven't. You guys have talked about how
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  Speaker 7: great it is. I mean, it's a national atmosphere. You're
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  Speaker 7: coming down the stretch of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: It's the closest thing that the NFL has to a
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  Speaker 3: college football.
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  Speaker 1: So just get that play in that environment.
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  Speaker 7: Mahome should you know, probably be you know, clicking hopefully
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  Speaker 7: for them.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a good game. It's
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  Speaker 1: just interesting stack up.
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  Speaker 7: You know, you play a tough rod game right out
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  Speaker 7: of the shoot with the Seahawks, but then late in
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  Speaker 7: the season, you're probably gonna need that game.
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City might need that game.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's a that's a great money it might be
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  Speaker 5: closing too.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm very curious to see what that Chiefs
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  Speaker 6: team looks like when we get there, because we're you know,
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  Speaker 6: looking at their depth chart yesterday. Their wide receivers right
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  Speaker 6: now are Taekwon Thornton, Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice.
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  Speaker 4: He spent time yesterday looking at the Kansas City Chiefs.
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  Speaker 5: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: You need to do something with him, Fred.
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  Speaker 3: But he's able to bring stuff to the show.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry for doing my job knowing the other teams. Yeah, chief, yes,
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  Speaker 6: I know all the teams they're playing.
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  Speaker 4: Doing your job.
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  Speaker 3: That's my job is not his.
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  Speaker 1: Job is to make sure I stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like no, But I think I think Evan Is
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  Speaker 3: should be lauded for doing that.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's what you apologize for.
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  Speaker 6: Trying to you, No, you don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I think I know the teams, but I just thought
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  Speaker 4: it was funny, Like I spent the time yesterday looking
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  Speaker 4: at the JEP chart of a team but playing in December.
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  Speaker 8: She was, did you look at it yesterday? Because I
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  Speaker 8: don't know if this is even a real rumor or
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  Speaker 8: like I don't know what's Twitter fake AI at this point,
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  Speaker 8: but I saw something about digs potentially.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I was looking at it yesterday because because
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  Speaker 6: because I'm not like one hundred percent sold on Kansas
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  Speaker 6: City bouncing back like some people are. And the big
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  Speaker 6: reason why is because I don't really think they've done
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  Speaker 6: anything with their weapons. Like Kenneth Walker is a is
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  Speaker 6: a decent addition, but he's running back and you all
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  Speaker 6: know how I feel about that. So if they had digs,
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  Speaker 6: or if they somehow swoop in on AJ Brown or
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  Speaker 6: something like that, then maybe it changed my mind. But
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  Speaker 6: Travis Kelcey last year looked like he was kind of
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  Speaker 6: washed already. Now he's a year older or she rice,
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  Speaker 6: who knows if he's going to be available for them
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  Speaker 6: or not. H And then, like I said, there are
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  Speaker 6: two other receivers right now are Taekwon Thornton and Xavier Worthy,
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  Speaker 6: two guys that were kind of bus like they could
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  Speaker 6: bring ju ju back.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: They drafted Cyrus Allen in the fifth round, who I
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  Speaker 6: thought was a nice like Day three pick, but like
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  Speaker 6: that's not you know, anything special.
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  Speaker 4: Weapons, which I was surprised at. I thought that they
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  Speaker 4: would look at what happened to them last year before
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  Speaker 4: Mahomes got hurt and say, okay, we got to give
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  Speaker 4: him some help and they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think they were counting on Rice to kind
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  Speaker 1: of be that guy Andy, But.
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  Speaker 6: When he plays, they're a different team, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I just you know, some of these games,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like the Lions, like they are another team
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  Speaker 6: that needs to have a bounce back year, you know,
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  Speaker 6: compared to what they had last year. The Chiefs, you know,
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  Speaker 6: are one of those teams. You know, how many of
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  Speaker 6: those teams on the Patriots schedule bounce back and how
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  Speaker 6: many of them stay down? You know, I think that's
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  Speaker 6: going to be a big factor and how hard the
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  Speaker 6: schedule actually ends up being.
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  Speaker 7: I like the Denver game, that's you know, second and
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  Speaker 7: last season home, that's that's another big one for the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it might have been a little sooner.
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  Speaker 7: It feels like the Broncos are gonna come here, obviously
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  Speaker 7: with something to prove.
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  Speaker 1: But I think there's some there's some highlights to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I can get excited about.
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  Speaker 7: Big games this year where it's like, okay, last year
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  Speaker 7: when you had all the bottom dwellers, is that hard
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  Speaker 7: to get excited about, you know, good competition and games
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  Speaker 7: to really stack up for So that regard, I'm excited,
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  Speaker 7: but I think it's gonna be it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 7: tough season.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 3: Alex brought up the Chiefs in the context of maybe
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  Speaker 3: now they might have renewed interests in uh A. J.
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  Speaker 3: Brown or Digs, And there's a lot of like new
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  Speaker 3: not reports, but speculation about teams being interested in Brown
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  Speaker 3: who may not have been interested before in the case
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  Speaker 3: of Rams, have renewed interest or whatever. But the way
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  Speaker 3: I look at it is either they have a deal
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  Speaker 3: or they don't. It's that simple. If they have a deal,
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  Speaker 3: it will happen. If they didn't have a deal, then
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  Speaker 3: any think can happen.
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  Speaker 7: What if they have a parameters of a deal, like
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  Speaker 7: they kind of like this is probably what it's going
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  Speaker 7: to be.
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  Speaker 3: Like if they have parameters and they haven't agreed to it,
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  Speaker 3: then they don't have a deal.
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  Speaker 5: They don't have a deal.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like there's two sides right now. And
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  Speaker 6: it's funny because Schefter and Rappaport work together now technically,
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  Speaker 6: and they kind of both have different reporting on this.
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  Speaker 6: Like rap Sheet's been consistent that there's no handshake deal
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  Speaker 6: between the Patriots and the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing about where who he works for.
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  Speaker 6: Well not Yeah, I guess you.
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  Speaker 3: Can't technically, you can't have a handshake deal.
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  Speaker 6: But Schefter also kind of works for the league now too.
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  Speaker 3: In a way point in a way in a way.
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  Speaker 6: So like Schefter has been really consistent that he expects
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  Speaker 6: the Patriots to get aj Brown, the Eagles and the
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  Speaker 6: Patriots to come to a trade like quickly after June first,
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  Speaker 6: like maybe even on June first, and Rapaport's saying not
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  Speaker 6: so fast. You know, it could be different. But yesterday Chefter,
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  Speaker 6: you know, got aggregated his podcast. He said, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: stand firm like he will, like in my opinion, he's
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  Speaker 6: going to be a Patriot, and I think it's going
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  Speaker 6: to happen quickly.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know, but either they
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  Speaker 3: have a deal when they don't. If they don't, then yeah,
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  Speaker 3: thinks another team, could you know, make a better offer.
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  Speaker 8: Even if you do have a deal, there's nothing signed,
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  Speaker 8: And I think the Eagles would be dumb to like
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  Speaker 8: if someone comes in at the last minute and just offer,
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  Speaker 8: well beats out the offer.
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  Speaker 10: Like here's what he Yeah, there's a handshake deal.
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  Speaker 3: I both agree with that. I disagree with that because
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  Speaker 3: if you have a deal and Howie Roseman goes back
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  Speaker 3: on it, that's not good business.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, But like the Raiders sent Max Crosby to Baltimore
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  Speaker 8: to go on a tour and come instantly back this year,
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  Speaker 8: Like I feel like, I don't know, did the did
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  Speaker 8: Baltimore really take a reputation hit front office for that
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  Speaker 8: going forward?
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  Speaker 11: Think?
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  Speaker 3: Or was it just well that was I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: Raiders may never do another deal with the Ravens again.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that you have to have some you
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  Speaker 3: have to be a man of your word.
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  Speaker 8: I agree with you, But are people if it well
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  Speaker 8: on benefits them at the last minute and they can
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  Speaker 8: back out.
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  Speaker 5: But that's why it's all that much more important.
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  Speaker 3: You have to trust people, and when at that level
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL, when you're doing deals, I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Know, I don't know if it's right.
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  Speaker 3: Like if they have a deal and Howie Roseman calls
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  Speaker 3: up Ramill says, I know we have a deal, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to lose my job if i don't take
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  Speaker 3: this offer that just came in over the transom. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he could say that he could, But if
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  Speaker 3: I'm Rabel, I'm like, f you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna have like a
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  Speaker 6: long standing effect on the Ravens. But the Ravens failing
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  Speaker 6: Max Crosby's physical and sending him back to Vegas, there
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  Speaker 6: is all sorts of like scuttle But at that time
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  Speaker 6: that the Holyleague was pissed at the Ravens for doing
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  Speaker 6: that and going back aways of their history of kind
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  Speaker 6: of pulling fast ones like that. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 6: necessarily gonna deter them from making future trades, but I
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  Speaker 6: think that there was some pushback from people being like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, this is kind of not not right.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, as you know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: movement in the NFL. Where you work today may not
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  Speaker 3: be where you work tomorrow. And you know, you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to burn bridges like that. That's just my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: but Alex people do yeah, stuff like that all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 4: I think those things go away quickly. I do think
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  Speaker 4: you take a hit, and I think Evan's right. I
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  Speaker 4: think Baltimore did take a hit initially. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: there might be some lingering and to your point, maybe
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  Speaker 4: the Raiders specifically. I don't know who had like in
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  Speaker 4: the in the NFL when Belichick was out of the
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  Speaker 4: peak of his power for the Patriots, was there anybody
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  Speaker 4: in the league that liked them? And no one traded
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  Speaker 4: more than Belichi Like, oh, I I don't want the
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  Speaker 4: coach wanted anything to do Okay, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 5: Some something.
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  Speaker 3: But I think like there's a lot of coaches that were.
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  Speaker 4: He there was a lot of jealousy, a lot of
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  Speaker 4: pettiness towards the Patriots.
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  Speaker 6: It trades, like I don't remember it as well enough
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  Speaker 6: to know, like it was there a lot of did
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  Speaker 6: he like pull out of trades and pull out of
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  Speaker 6: deals and stuff like that to.
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  Speaker 4: Get into what he did? Competitive stuff? Thank you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, that's that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And it didn't prevent anybody from wanting to do business
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  Speaker 4: with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, but I'm more talking about like roster transactional.
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  Speaker 4: But this was worse and it did it never prevented them,
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  Speaker 4: Like nobody traded more than Belichi, Yeah, nobody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just I wonder where A. J.
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  Speaker 7: Brown is at and what his whole view in the
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  Speaker 7: situation is, Like does he in his mind being like
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  Speaker 7: they're gonna send me in New England? I mean I
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  Speaker 7: think there was a report he was looking at places
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  Speaker 7: in the seaport, you know, or is he kind of
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  Speaker 7: like I think I'm going.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that they have him in the dark.
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  Speaker 4: Right, you know, because if you're somebody else now, I
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  Speaker 4: think he has in his mind. Brown has it in
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  Speaker 4: his mind he's going to the Patriots. So if I'm
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  Speaker 4: Kansas City and I want to try to come in
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  Speaker 4: and you know, make an offer, I am I getting
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  Speaker 4: a guy who's fully committed to me? Or is he
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  Speaker 4: just want to play for rape?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 6: I think the vable factor is the biggest thing.
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  Speaker 8: Right If a Patrick Mahomes is probably the type of
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  Speaker 8: quarterback that could sway you, like he would have to
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  Speaker 8: at least from Mahomes.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know as much as you like a coach.
• 14:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that though, Like if a J. Brown
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: has any say in where he's going to be traded to,
• 14:38
  Speaker 6: which a lot of players nowadays do have that kind
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: of bargaining power to have a say in it, Like
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: going to play for Rabel seems like pretty high on
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: his his list. So if it's the Patriots or Jacksonville,
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: which is another team.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: That's suddenly in the news a social.
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: Media rumor not anything confirmed, but you know, if it's
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: the Patriots or Jacksonville, like a J. Brown and you
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: would think is going to want to play for Rabel
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: and play for you know.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: It's on Paul's morning show this morning. Uh, they had
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: a reporter somebody from Philadelphia who you know, covers the team,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: and he was talking about a J. Brown and uh,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: just kind of dispelling a lot of the narratives. So
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of people, even in New
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: England's why do we want a J.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: Brown?
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Why are you hiring a diva wide receiver? You know
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: when culture is that important? Blah blah blah. And this
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: guy was dispelling that, saying that even though you know
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: he might have a beef with Jalen Hurts and they
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: may not get along. There's no one in the Eagles
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: organization from the top down who doesn't have a good
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: word to say about A. J.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: Brown.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: That's why they don't want to trade him.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they all like him. They all like him.
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: It's just sad aj Brown wants to go.
• 15:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Jalen Hurts wasn't at his wedding.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: Else said Barkley was there?
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I saw a report that said no, there
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: was there was a picture pictures was.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: There according to this guy.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: Well, there was pictures that TMZ had at the wedding,
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: And like, I was because I saw the same thing
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: that you saw that nobody else came and then Saquon
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: is just like sitting in.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: The front road.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: It was because I was like, saw the pictures and
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: then I'm reading the thing and it says no other Eagles,
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: and I was like, wait a second, that's Sequon bark.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: At least surprising thing was that Jalen Hurst was not invited.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but he said there were other Eagles there.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: At least Sequon was there because I know what Saquon
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: looks like and he was certainly in that picture.
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: That was that was one for that kind of cracked
• 16:41
  Speaker 7: me up. The Eagles schedule release. They just had the
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: guys sit around and open it. But it was like,
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: oh yeah, like a lot of I.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Was like, this is so boring, nothing to say it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: M yeah, like there was very single one.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: The other one was as as you're talking about them,
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: I'm thinking about the other ones.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: But the Trevor Lawrence haircut thing, I was kind of excited.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well he's going to get a haircut.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: We're gonna see what Trevor Lawrence. And then they gave
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: him like a terrible like kind of I don't know.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I thought, I think.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: It looks like a win.
• 17:12
  Speaker 10: It still looks like weird, like this is a I right,
• 17:15
  Speaker 10: like this is this is.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: The Bills one.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 17:22
  Speaker 10: You liked it?
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 17:23
  Speaker 10: It was so weird that I like it was weird
• 17:26
  Speaker 10: but too dragged out.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, you think so too.
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: They're all too long.
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: It wasn't he got timing. Timing is so bad.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: They're all too long.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I just thought I thought that maybe they can follow
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: that through the season, like have those crystalises hanging up
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: around the stadium or something like that, or people throw
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: those out in the field instead of But I just
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: thought it was so weird that I like it's good.
• 17:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was wacky. I didn't it wasn't in my
• 17:57
  Speaker 10: top five, but it wasn't. I didn't not like it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: No, do you think the new stadium will affect that crowd? Yes,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: will it be will it get corporate? I don't know
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: about maybe a little bit more.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Configuration is still you know, you're on top of the game.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: You know, there's no like dead spots that I could
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: see from the seating. Like in our stadium, Let's face it,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the red area with the clubs becomes a dead zone
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: because people are inside, you know, or they're late after halftime,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: they don't get to the their seats right away. So
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: that because like I don't I didn't see that in
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that stadium, things like that end zones seem to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: well populated with seats, you know, like a lot of.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: I'm just wondering because that's a pretty rowdy crowd, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I wonder if a new stadium.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: I think it will affect that. I think there's a
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: couple of things, like the way it's designed now is
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: actually like they eliminated the wind tunnel aspect of that stadium,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: So the wind isn't going to be as big of
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: a factor as it was at the old one. But
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: I think the one thing that was the most, like
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: the thing that I thought stood out the most about
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: high Mark was there's one entrance in and out of
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: the stadium, and so there's one tunnel for both teams,
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: both the road and home tame and so like the
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: both teams would have to like cross paths to get
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: on and off the field, and there were times where
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: that would get a little bit rowdy. And now it's
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: going to have like the core, you know.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: But one thing about new stadiums' is like, oh, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it's more clubs and suites and the average guy is
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: going to be replaced by the rich people. Not in Buffalo,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: who's replacing them. There's only so many people that live
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: around that area, like the owner of Duff's, who's going
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: to be replacing them. There's not the population itself is
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: not that big.
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree with that, But I think it
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: will be different feel because the other stadium was a
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: college stadium. Let's face it, the way it was, the
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: way it was designed, was.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Actually built the same year that old Foxborough State and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: it was the exact same design. They added to it
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: over the years and made it better than Foxboro Stadium,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: but it was exactly it was just a cement bowl.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all it was.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was a like there are probably
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: high schools in Texas that have nicer football stadiums, And
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: I think that that added to the culture of it
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: a little bit, that this like new, like state of
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: the art stadium just you're not going to have that
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: same feel that you're like going into this rabid like
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: it still it's a.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Nice new place. We don't want to desecrate it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: They'll still a way just wondering they don't have, but
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I think they'll be as crazy as ever.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: I think it's going to be different, but I think
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: it will be.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: How much different, Like I don't think it will be.
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: Well, I think that you know, from it's still Buffalo, right,
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: but from a football aspect, Like, I do think that
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: the way that they supposedly the way that they designed
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: the stadium to eliminate some of the weather elements that
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: you had when you played in Buffalo, Like to me,
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: it's a big deal, like that plays some of the
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: win games that the Patriots have played there have been
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: helped us, yeah in some ways. Yeah, but even you know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: just the way that they it kind of has like
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: it is is not an enclosed roof, but it like
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: comes over almost like Miami, right, And you're talking practical football,
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: like on field, and I.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Totally agree with you. I'm just looking at it like
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Fred you were around. Don't you think there's a difference
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: in the crowd here from the old stadium to here?
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I do.
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: Look at the crowd in the garden too, Like from
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: a regular season random game to a playoff game.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: I just considerably less roudy. I understand because rich people don't.
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: Want to look like fanatics and make fools of themselves
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: at a game. And how much is Buffalo's crowd gonna change?
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: But we have.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: A yes, we do, honest, I mean, but they don't
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: have the.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: Hell there's tech companies here, there's fintech.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: The messes. It's these companies that buy, you know, tickets
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and then they send their clients and all that stuff.
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: We have the BioMed money and the tech money.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: There's no question have more that stuff. But the old
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Foxborough Stadium was a zoo very similar to what we're
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: talking about. You don't have any of that. Really, you
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: have to walk outside to get down to The craft
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: family has done a lot of work and you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: bumping up security. There's a lot of things that you
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: you worry about now that maybe you didn't worry about
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: in the you know, the eighties and nineties. So the
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Crafts are to be commended for cleaning some of that
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: stuff up. But I do wonder if you maybe lose
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: a little of that sort of rabid behavior. I mean,
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: and I think Alex's point about the NBA is I'm stunned.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: I'm stunned sometimes I'm still there.
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I'm only kids.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: You got I was trying to get it off of
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: them with that when get it?
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got it?
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: Wow, I was with.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: The NBA games. I can get right back on track.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Watch at the you know, like watch the Thunder and
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Spurs or like that. Even the next game would be
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: a better one. The Knicks tonight against Cleveland. Watch the
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: beginning of the third quarter. There's nobody there because those
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: seats are the ones that go for like, yeah, ten
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: twenty grand and all the court side seats they go
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: at halftime, they go in whatever the club. They're going in.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: They don't come out when it's stuck, and it's amazing
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: to me. It's like the biggest games of the year,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: and the crowd is like getting.
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: A drink because they're there to be seen.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: It's also very comfortable some side when you go, like
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: I going out there for like a concert or something.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: First time I've been in the red seats and I
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: was like, WHOA, Like, now I get why people want
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: to be inside because there's monitor, there's food. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: if it's weather game, you don't have to be out there.
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: But it's when you look at the game.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: You know, when you look at the game, especially at
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: the start of the second half, and you're like, well,
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: the whole middle of the stadium is is em do
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: we know.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: The difference of what tickets cost the last year and
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: what they cost now Buffalo I try.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: To pull that up.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: The one thing that I do know is that they
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: lost season ticket holders right because there's less seats in
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: the new stadium.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of what I'm getting at is, yes, pricing
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: out the rabid behaviors, are they I'm asking chance that
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: that happens. Yeah, I mean, the seats have to be
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: more expected.
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: I mean, this was a you know from co Pilot's
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: example was a for example, a Bill's Mafia.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Remember with eight M and T banks.
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: Suite tickets paid twenty four grand per year before twenty
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: twenty six.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: But we'll need four hundred thousand dollars.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: That's forget about the suits indoors. I'm talking about just
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: a normal seat.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: I just remember that when this all the stadium started
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: to become a reality, they had X amount of season
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: ticket holders in the new stadium could only fit why,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: you know why was smaller. So they had to have
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: a lottery, and they had to cut out a bunch
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: of the season ticket holders, and a lot of season
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: ticket holders obviously lost the lottery and didn't get picked
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: to have season tickets in the new stadium. So there's
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: a lot because of the suites and all that stuff,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: there's a lot less.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: What I am thinking, let's just say it is significantly
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: more enough where if you were a season ticket holders,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm either not doing it anymore or I
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: am going to do it, but I'm gonna sell a
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: lot more of my tickets, you know, So.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: All those things are in play.
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's hard, I'm sure some people are being priced out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, that's that's how it works with
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: these kind of situations.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: But but it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Could be a lot more Like of our fans there,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: if they're selling their tickets to make up all the rich,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: we could take.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: Our private planes and helicopters.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: So you're going to be going to let's go.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: But that's a good point though.
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: One of those years ago, my sister had a group
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: of friends like that, and that was the thing. Like
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: so even for away fans, like they were like just
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: out of college kids, but they would always do a
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: pilgrimage to Buffalo to watch the games, you know.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So I mean I did a pilgrimage to watch a game,
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: I just I missed those rabbid environments like those, you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: you just you can't recreate it. And so many of
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: these stadiums now are just feel so corporate and clean
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: and just doesn't have that like you know, you walk
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: into the old Boston Garden, there's like a gritty noess
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: to it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It's small, you're on top of it. Like stadium had
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: a vibe.
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: Now you watch it and you're like, I think it's Gillette,
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: But it could be Tennessee too.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so thrown off by Levi Stadium at the super Bowl,
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: like it's half of it is just sweet.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I know things.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I think that was a miss.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I think the Garden crowd still they get loud and
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: stop trying to give me a T shirt. I don't
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: want the freaking T shirt.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I hate it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: I hate.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Things.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: I don't want the T shirt. I'm not wearing it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Don't give me the T shirt, just telling.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: You it's on edge.
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: I don't know what happened for a couple of weeks
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: shirt because no, like him, this is what happens, okay,
• 27:10
  Speaker 12: because you know you brought up like San Antonio and
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: Oklahoma City they put on the T shirts and they
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: have like these like color coordinated shirts and stuff like.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: That, and like it's like so the Celtics they try
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: to put T shirts on people's I don't need a
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: T shirt, okay, Like I have to support I have
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: actual like stuff that I that I like, buy the
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Celtics gear that I'm wearing the game. I don't need
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: to be given out a T shirt and I don't
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: want to be. We don't need it. This is Boston.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: We're not We're not like yeah, like we don't need
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: the T shirts. Like we're gonna come to We're gonna
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: come in green, we're gonna come loud, we're gonna come drunk.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Don't worry, don't you don't have to get me into
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: the atmosphere.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: I just imagine Evan walking into the garden for like
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: a playoff game and there's T shirts hanging on the
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: back like.
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: You and cuts them all up.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Joe's on the other seat and he's like you're not
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: putting that on, are you.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Everyone's in heaven with like a blue.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: And then you know, like at the Bruins games and
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: when they go they put they bring out the towels.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: They give us towels and I'm like, guy, this is
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: like Game seven against Toronto.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I don't need a towel.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: Like we're like we're gonna scream our heads off, all right,
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: Like don't worry about the towel.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like take your towel.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Stop telling me to wave my towel, okay, Like all
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: these things, like it's nice for.
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: These guys showing up from their seaport finance.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Jobs there and you think they're waving their towel.
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: They're not waving anything. They're wearing button up Oxford shirts
• 28:44
  Speaker 10: and like.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: This is this is a real sport we have. It's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: in our VA playoffs. We don't need a cowl.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: TD Garden in the playoffs is noticeably different than a
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: regular season game.
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: Why it's loud.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've been obviously to both, and like it depends.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: It depends on how the team kind of atmospheres, It
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: depends on how the team plays.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Know exactly what you're talking, have you? I was just
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: going to say, just off TV, it's not right because
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: maybe it's because the national broadcast toned down the noise.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's pretty My guess is
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: they probably jack up the noise during the regular season
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: on the local broadcast.
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: Has not been what it's been in years past.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: They also haven't had a great home record, Like the
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: team has to play well for fans to like have something.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: To cheer about.
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: So like when you go to a game, like you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: and you know, we went to the Bruins game and
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: against the Sabers where they lost six to two at home,
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Like what was I supposed to do? I was supposed
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: to like, you know, like it was for nothing. After
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: the first period, crowds.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: A little different anyway. They get a little I.
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: Think, and they're not going to a hockey game to
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: be seen.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: That's funny how everybody opinion.
• 29:57
  Speaker 10: Will I seen one all the time.
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: I can't hear.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm just telling the Warriors in the finals,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I was struck with every home game with nobody's there
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: in the third quarter, emptiness all around the benches. Like
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: that was the first time I noticed it, and now
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I notice it all the time in these big playoff
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: games in the NBA.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I know self these games that I've watched, when games
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: where they've had to come.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Back get it gets pretty Goden is a good loud crowd.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: You can hear it on TV. Yeah, Like I again,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: it's like not having to be on the depth chart
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: of the Kansas City Chiefs to know that they don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: have any receivers. I don't have to be there or
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: know that they don't make any noise or they get
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: loud when they're making a comeback. In the fourth quarter
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: of even Game seven of this miserable series they just lost,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the place was going crazy when they made the comeback
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. They fell short, but I could
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: hear it when I watched.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: The highlights Bad Crowds.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: All right? Eight five five past five hundred is the
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: hotline podcast at Patriots dot com? Is the email address
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I do you know before I start taking calls? And
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: you can disagree or agree with this next email, or
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: it's Joseph from next door.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: He says.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: He says, is it too much to ask for the
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: callers to be interesting, to be able to understand what
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: they're saying? The initial callers on Tuesday were frightening. We
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: had a lot of new callers on Tuesday, so I
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: don't want to discourage them. But Joe says, regular callers
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: who sound like they have marbles in their mouth are
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: talking like they have gills, and don't believe in pauses
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: between sentences what is going on outside? I would hang
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: up on any caller that says, can you hear me?
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I miss so many of the old school callers that
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: were great, Thanks Brady for Eldred. Emails are the way
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: to go, much more entertaining, be better callers.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: So laying down the gauntlet with call to action, look
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: at those callers lit up.
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: That's yeah, yeah, you didn't even have to offer T shirts?
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: All right, So be good so should I be more
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know, strict with our callers and less patient?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: No, wh I think you do a good jobs.
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: That's like the Felder thing where theyy, how are you doing?
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: You can tell this product.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I don't mind that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: But like if it's not a good call, like get
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: rid of them quicker.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Well, well, I mean some of us might think it's
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a good call.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Maybe, you know.
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: I think there's something we said about our listeners taking
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: time from their day to call in and want to
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: feel engaged personally.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Appreciate our listeners, Alex, I agree, but.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: I appreciate them all as well. I'm trying to be nicer.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to be nicer Paul.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: Since in the show, since ago, I've had epiphany in
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: the last thirty seconds.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Don't give me a teacher.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: All right, So we'll we'll take some calls, but you're
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: on notice, everybody.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, make it be good.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Hang up and listen, be better, Hang up and listen,
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: be better.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: So we'll start with Sean, who is actually in Venice.
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: What's up, Sean, Joseph.
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: I hope I'm clear and comprehensive, Paul, going off of
• 32:56
  Speaker 13: what you said the other day. In regards to the
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: Bill schedule being all those tough, I can actually see
• 33:02
  Speaker 13: the Patriots winning the division at ten and seven, while
• 33:05
  Speaker 13: the Bills could finish at nine and eight. I think
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: that's a strong possibility.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Sure, I don't. I don't think the division winner.
• 33:12
  Speaker 14: What do you think it's good?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I think both of them will win more than that both. Wow.
• 33:17
  Speaker 13: I just think it's they're just really tough schedule. So
• 33:19
  Speaker 13: that's why I'm saying that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: We're good too, So we make other people's schedule tough.
• 33:26
  Speaker 13: Right, Yeah, yeah we do. I mean we'll we'll make
• 33:30
  Speaker 13: it tough for the Dolphins and the Jets.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: I mean we're going to make it hopefully, we're going
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: to make it tough for everybody we play.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the goal.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: That's what happened last year.
• 33:41
  Speaker 13: Yeah, last year was when everything were runried, so it
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: was amazing. I mean, I'd love it if they want
• 33:48
  Speaker 13: fourteen games again. I just I just feel like it's
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: a tough schedule, so it's okay, it's going to be difficult.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean winning fourteen games tough for now, not tough.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: It's it's tough.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go out on a limit it's.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Hard to win in the NFL. Thanks Sean Herms in DC.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: What's up? Herm?
• 34:06
  Speaker 15: Hey, what's going on?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Boys and girls?
• 34:08
  Speaker 16: Welcome back Mike.
• 34:09
  Speaker 17: Hope he's feel better.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 34:13
  Speaker 17: Two quick comments and a question for you guys. So,
• 34:15
  Speaker 17: first comment, we will win twelve games. Why because in
• 34:22
  Speaker 17: my opinion, we have an elite defense, great coaching, and
• 34:26
  Speaker 17: a great quarterback. Second comments, nize, question is about a
• 34:32
  Speaker 17: team in our schedule is really Kansas City, and I
• 34:37
  Speaker 17: don't really understand. I guess while people are scared of
• 34:41
  Speaker 17: them just for this upcoming year because one Patrick Mahomes
• 34:45
  Speaker 17: got hurt and they were I think six and eight
• 34:49
  Speaker 17: with him when he was obviously fine. And I also
• 34:52
  Speaker 17: think that they're kind of at a point where we
• 34:55
  Speaker 17: were in twenty ten, where obviously but God's grace with
• 35:00
  Speaker 17: a chance on a tight end that back issues from Arizona.
• 35:04
  Speaker 18: Right.
• 35:04
  Speaker 17: So that's and I didn't outside of public can't see
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: this draft, but I don't think they've got anybody that
• 35:09
  Speaker 17: could really help them, you know, this upcome season. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 17: then my question, simple question take up the here. Why
• 35:20
  Speaker 17: hasn't gone them been paid yet? Thank you guys.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Why hasn't gons have been paid yet? Oh why hasn't
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: he been paid yet?
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Generally, things that happen a little bit more towards like
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: training camp. But you mean, I don't have any information
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: on that, as you know, if it's imminent or anything
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: like that. But it's not all that uncommon to see
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: one of those extensions happening.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Mini camp, Yeah, right, that mini camp, training camp dead
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: period there. I think there's some negotiating that goes on.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't worry about it until or a lesson, until
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: it lingers into like the preseason. Like now you you're
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: sort of saying, Okay, is he going to be is
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: he fully committed? Is he on the field? Is he
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: holding in? Those are things that would worry me yet.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: But until that happens, I'm going to assume he's gonna.
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: Get He's been around to this point too.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, Anthony's in Seattle.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: What's up, Anthony?
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 36:15
  Speaker 19: Breah?
• 36:15
  Speaker 15: What's up my people?
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 36:18
  Speaker 15: Are you guys taking you guys here?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Me?
• 36:19
  Speaker 19: Okay?
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: What he got onto that?
• 36:23
  Speaker 20: Yeah?
• 36:23
  Speaker 15: No, that was just for that guy that emailed him. Hey,
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: what I will say, this isn't what I called about.
• 36:28
  Speaker 15: But just on the topic while I was waiting. So
• 36:31
  Speaker 15: what happened is, you guys, you kind of put out
• 36:33
  Speaker 15: the best signal on Tuesday for calls, and so I
• 36:36
  Speaker 15: noticed there were a lot of like new callers, first
• 36:38
  Speaker 15: time callers, and one guy with a second time caller,
• 36:40
  Speaker 15: and like, I've been listening to you guys since twenty fourteen.
• 36:43
  Speaker 15: I finally called in in twenty fifteen. It's a little intimidating,
• 36:47
  Speaker 15: you know, when you're like used to like listening to
• 36:50
  Speaker 15: you guys talk, and so you don't want to make
• 36:52
  Speaker 15: a fool of yourself. You don't want to say the
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: wrong thing. It took me a while to get comfortable
• 36:56
  Speaker 15: just calling in and just be like, Noah, these are
• 36:58
  Speaker 15: just the guys and gal that we're just we're just
• 37:01
  Speaker 15: having a conversation. So it takes a you know, it's tough,
• 37:05
  Speaker 15: but I'll get to my point.
• 37:07
  Speaker 19: The tu T shirt giveaway, I'm hoping I didn't.
• 37:11
  Speaker 15: Miss it because I've been trying to get a hold
• 37:12
  Speaker 15: of one for years. And then secondly, just a couple
• 37:16
  Speaker 15: of notes that stuck out to me on Unforged Man,
• 37:20
  Speaker 15: it was I felt like, like it's really hard to
• 37:23
  Speaker 15: top the first episode of the first season, because that
• 37:26
  Speaker 15: one was really really good. But this one, it felt
• 37:28
  Speaker 15: like they built on the success of last year, where
• 37:32
  Speaker 15: the access they gave it turned out to be a
• 37:34
  Speaker 15: great product. It felt like they gave a little bit
• 37:36
  Speaker 15: more of a piek behind the curtain. Two things that
• 37:38
  Speaker 15: I noticed that I really liked was one Evans voice cameo,
• 37:42
  Speaker 15: but it was what he was talking about about the
• 37:44
  Speaker 15: team being kind of in that in between where they
• 37:47
  Speaker 15: are they still in a re build or are they
• 37:49
  Speaker 15: kind of excited because they got into the super Bowl.
• 37:51
  Speaker 15: The fact that that was that made it into the
• 37:53
  Speaker 15: episode makes me believe that the team kind of feels
• 37:58
  Speaker 15: the same way. And you guys just had a really
• 38:00
  Speaker 15: really good feel for the pulse of the team since
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: really since Bill left. And then secondly was the Actus
• 38:06
  Speaker 15: trade up. I was super pumped. I wanted them to
• 38:10
  Speaker 15: trade up. I had said in a group chat that
• 38:11
  Speaker 15: I want them to take him at sixty three, but
• 38:13
  Speaker 15: he won't, he won't make it sixty three. They agreed,
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: they moved up and got him, But the fact that
• 38:17
  Speaker 15: they showed you they were actually trying to get him
• 38:20
  Speaker 15: at fifty three and you could hear like the you
• 38:22
  Speaker 15: know that that whole thing that was really awesome.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: So that's all I got that good stuff.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would say that we are getting
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: a little even more.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Access than we did last year.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: That's why this was my favorite episode.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I'm glad.
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: I'm glad. I know it would be yours.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: But Anthony makes a really really good point about that
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: comment that Evan made. Oh thanks, Yeah, not because of
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the comment, but we're being nice to each other. He's right,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Anthony's right, you don't have to work here. We have
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: telling secrets out of like obviously there's an approval process.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah too.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: You know, we can't get this access if they can't
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: trust you know, what we're doing and all that stuff.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: So they were okay, hey with that comment that Evan
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: made being in that episode, And I do think that's
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: that's kind of telling because that probably was part of
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: their mindset, like we're a lot further along than we
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: thought we were, you know, Rabel with the three hundred
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: and whatever days that he kept saying seventeen times three
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: oh seven, thank you? So are we rebuilding or are
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: we further along in the process or are we somewhere in
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: the middle. And I think including that comment tells me anyway,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: and certainly Anthony felt the same that they are thinking
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: in those terms.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: I thought that was interesting. You know, who really impressed
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: me was Tony Kinkella. We had an opportunity to interview
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: at the combine, but I just he seems like one
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: of those guys I got like, this guy might be
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: a GM someday. He just seemed one of my real
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: serious locked in guys. You know, I just I love
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: hearing the Scouts talk about the players. And we do it,
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: you know, we talk about it on our shows and
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: stuff and we try to.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Just like as we like, but you know, you hear
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff.
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: But obviously they're you know, in formed, and they'd go
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: to watch these guys play in person. So that's always
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: my favorite stuff. It's just the little glimpses behind the curtain,
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: getting to hear these guys really, you know, talk about
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: guys without the filter that comes when you have to
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: put them up on a podium.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: It did feel like based off their actions though, that
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: they leaned a little bit more towards Rebuilt then because
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: they turned over a lot of the roster again and
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: they you know, they released digs, they released to all
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: the guys that we kind of thought were holdovers that
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: we thought were going to be out were they They
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: went through with it and and rip the band aid off. Anyways,
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: even though Anthony Jennings was really good for them in
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: the playoffs lash year.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: He found he caught on with the Saints, I think,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: and I would even say, to further illustrate you a point,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you could make an argument that the first and the
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: third round picks are kind of guys for the future. Yeah,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: you know, and low MoU and rear it in yep,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: you know, they'll probably both see some time this year.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: But you know, probably Akis is the only one of
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: those top three picks that is definitely good healthy. He's
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: definitely going to play a role right away. The other
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: two might not. I mean, in the perfect world, Lomo
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: doesn't play at all. You have your two tackles play
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: really well and if they stay healthy and you don't
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: have to worry about it. Yeah.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: I don't like using the word rebuild in this situation.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: To me, rebuild is you got your new head coach,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: you got you got your quarterback. You're rebuilding. This is
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: more retooling. Yeah, reloading.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Well, I think they're just stacking, you know, like they're
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: stacking off seasons, and you know, I think that they
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: could have looked at last year's team and said, we
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: were four quarters away from being a champion, so nudge,
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: so over, Yeah, we're just going to run it back
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: and think they did that. You know, I agree with
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: Ev they didn't. They and a lot of those guys,
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: I thought, you know, Jennings to buy players like that
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: sort of impress them. I think maybe outperformed what they expected.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: Would have been really easy to just kind of run
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: it back with all the same guys and say we
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: won fourteen games and made the super Bowl. But they,
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: I think realistically looked at it and said, we're still
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: not good enough.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I think that's Rabel's mindset is you know, there's no
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: standing still. You're either getting better or you're getting worse.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And you know, and that goes with not just personnel,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: but in our philosophies.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: You know, he's challenged them. He said that.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I think it was unforged, or he might have been
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: just in a press conference where I challenged my guys
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to think of new things, you know, be creative. Just
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: because we did it one way last year doesn't mean
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: we have to do it the same way this year.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been thinking about that, you know, like the
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: the scheme stuff that he was talking about that he
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: wanted like new ideas, and like what some of those
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: new ideas could be. Obviously I'd be like totally guessing,
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: but like, you know, there's some interesting things that you
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: could think of. You know, a lot of people I
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: think default to, well, they're getting more athletic on the
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: offensive line, So are they going to be more of
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: a zone blocking team? You know, are they going to
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: be more under center, zone bootlegs things like that?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Defensively, I would still like to see them get into
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: a little bit more dime and and play more six
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: defensive backs, especially on third down. You know, those types
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: of things like you come to mind as ways that
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: they might sort of shift or add or whatever. I'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: interested to see where they go with that, because that's
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: the fun stuff.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: How about Eldred in North Carolina? What's up Eldred? You
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: were on Joe's Good Week.
• 43:24
  Speaker 19: Yeah, Well I'm glad because I'm gonna be me regardless.
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 43:29
  Speaker 19: How you doing, Alex, I'm good?
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: How are you?
• 43:32
  Speaker 19: I'm known? Okay, Hey, I got it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I'm doing good too.
• 43:36
  Speaker 19: Okay, Well, Evan, Mike, Bread, Paul, my buddy.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 43:42
  Speaker 19: I didn't mean leave everybody out.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: No, it's okay, fine, we saw what you get it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
• 43:47
  Speaker 19: On Twitter. Matter of fact, I put the brocket. I
• 43:51
  Speaker 19: put the podcast up there with the Eagles. Anybody keep saying,
• 43:56
  Speaker 19: A J hurt you out early to my like a
• 43:58
  Speaker 19: handshake deal. If he can, I'm out of it. You know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 19: you don't do it, and you know it's bad for him.
• 44:03
  Speaker 19: But like they said, he's he's a GM. He got
• 44:07
  Speaker 19: an image to uphold, get the best of whatever they want,
• 44:11
  Speaker 19: a first in a sucker, you know, because what water got.
• 44:15
  Speaker 19: So it's five teams that AJ put down, the Patriots,
• 44:19
  Speaker 19: the Packers, the Rams, the Chiefs and the Bills. Yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 19: rest and whatever. But they lately they said Jack was
• 44:27
  Speaker 19: in because they don't like beat B TJ. I take
• 44:29
  Speaker 19: him into there of the week and then uh poe
• 44:33
  Speaker 19: on him to help our quarterback. And then the Packers
• 44:38
  Speaker 19: are willing to give up a first and a fourth
• 44:40
  Speaker 19: of two to twenty seven. That's that's in their podcast,
• 44:43
  Speaker 19: and that's off they podcast, like y'all got, And I
• 44:46
  Speaker 19: subscribe to us. I can hear that episode right there.
• 44:48
  Speaker 19: That's the sucker when they put out that was yesterday
• 44:51
  Speaker 19: and they said he's shopping shopping around. You could go
• 44:54
  Speaker 19: allway to July to give him time to get what
• 44:57
  Speaker 19: he wants instead of jungle sucking.
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: They don't have a deal.
• 45:02
  Speaker 19: If they don't have a deal, right, So how you
• 45:04
  Speaker 19: feel about Wolf if he if he didn't just draft one,
• 45:07
  Speaker 19: just put pressure on them, you know, but you really
• 45:09
  Speaker 19: can't for pressure on him, so he won't that first
• 45:12
  Speaker 19: and that second, or that first and that third, and
• 45:15
  Speaker 19: maybe a player even eight podcast is saying that, And
• 45:19
  Speaker 19: I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. I thought it
• 45:21
  Speaker 19: was a done deal.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: I don't know anybody that's saying that it's going to
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: be all that extra stuff, Like I don't know, Like
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: when Adam Schefter comes out and is as matter of
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: fact about things as he has been on this particular subject,
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: like I'm gonna trust him over any podcast, including our own,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: right Like I like, you know, he is as plugged
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: in as anybody, and so like I'm gonna take his
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: word that it's probably going to be like a twenty
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: twenty eight first or something like that. It's probably going
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: to be the Patriots. Like I think all the rest
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: of this kind of stuff with AJ Brown is just noise.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Cameron, I hope. So Cameron in North Carol, know
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: what's up?
• 46:02
  Speaker 16: Hey everyone, I have two gripes, both with Evan Goods.
• 46:07
  Speaker 21: I just.
• 46:10
  Speaker 16: Yeah, just spent the two hours listening to yesterday's Catch
• 46:13
  Speaker 16: twenty two and thanks. I just cannot understand this, uh,
• 46:19
  Speaker 16: this whole Buffalo Bills not being a toss up, but
• 46:23
  Speaker 16: then when you're trying to explain it, you're literally defining
• 46:27
  Speaker 16: what a toss up would be. They got worse, we
• 46:30
  Speaker 16: got better. I heard your explanation. I'm sorry, I'm breeze
• 46:34
  Speaker 16: how to No, No, I'm actually cutting grass. But I
• 46:41
  Speaker 16: don't know. I didn't think Evan would know what that's about.
• 46:42
  Speaker 16: So I didn't say.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: That, oh that that was a good one.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 46:50
  Speaker 16: No, But but really I just really important just to
• 46:52
  Speaker 16: see if you could explain that a little more, because
• 46:55
  Speaker 16: in my eyes, and it sounds like Bart's two, the
• 46:57
  Speaker 16: Bills did get worse. I feel like we got better.
• 47:00
  Speaker 16: They definitely reached on DJ Moore, But hearing you say
• 47:03
  Speaker 16: that the Chiefs and Arrowhead on Monday Night is not
• 47:06
  Speaker 16: a toss up. Yeah, it's not a toss up. A
• 47:09
  Speaker 16: Buffalo just because they have Josh Allen with a new
• 47:13
  Speaker 16: regime is not a toss up. But then you define
• 47:15
  Speaker 16: a toss up. I just kind of wanted some clarity
• 47:18
  Speaker 16: on that if you could, all right, uh, and I'll
• 47:20
  Speaker 16: take it off there, thanks.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Camera's pretty simple.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Was so we did.
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: We did an exercise where we ranked the Patriots schedule
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: from easiest opponent the hardest opponent, and we did, uh
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: we put them into tears like you know, uh tomato cans,
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: like you know, games they should win, uh, toss ups
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: or coin flip games, and then like the tough ones
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: on the schedule, And as we normally do, we bickered
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: about the Bills, and I had the Bills both Bills
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: games as tough games on the schedule, and Alex had
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: the Bills game here the home game as a toss up,
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: so meaning it was a little less than like a
• 47:58
  Speaker 6: hard game, like it was a little bit more in
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: the Patriots favor.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Said a toss up a tough game.
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: I did.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: We're playing catch twenty.
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I heard this whole explanation after because Evan came in
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: giddy because he got under Alex's skin, which is which
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: is which is which is what I was about to see.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: The whole half of this was just to get on
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: Alex's nerves.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: So I said, I got to tell you, if we
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: did this on PU, I could absolutely see Fred and
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I getting into a fifteen minute arguments, sciantic argument the
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: differences between a toss up and here we got tough game,
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: and that's the part, and Fred just said it. I'm
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: with Fred. I can't argue with Fred on this because
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: we're lockstep. I don't really understand the difference. The tough game.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Should be just a game we're gonna lose.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: So we got so we got into this whole argument
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: about it, and part of it was the semantics of
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: what's a toss up versus what's a tough game, which
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: was great. And plus Alex hates the Bills and hates
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: Buffalo and everything about them, so I just like the
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: needle them a little bit so to the collar. I
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: would say about forty five percent of it was me
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: needling Barth like that was easily the.
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: All of Mike Felton. Yeah.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: Correct, And I'm just going to defend him because he
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: came in and he was giddy. You knew exactly what
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: he was doing, So I'm not surprising. I'm not surprised
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: that that's the reaction that Cameron's call because I think
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: contradicted myself on camera.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Now that you know that Evan was just kind of
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: like getting under his skin, because I hope that clears
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: it up for you a little bit now.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: But there was also fifty percent of me that whenever
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: you played Josh Allen in a game, right, So.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: That's just look up if you're a good team, if
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: you're a good team. So the Patriots, and we all
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: agreed the Patriots were a good team last year. So
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's such a thing as a game
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: that you don't think you can win. So I think
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: the tough games quote unquote are toss ups, right, That
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: would be my only And again this is we're not
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: going to bog this down argument.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Would you would you be a toss up?
• 49:55
  Speaker 22: Though?
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: If you went in as the underdog?
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: What do you call when you're But I still feel
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: get the unless you unless you don't think they can
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: win the game.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: And I don't have a game like that because it's
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: the NFL. I think all the team. You know, if
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: you're good, Now, if you're a terrible team like Miami
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: at Seattle, I don't think is a toss up. That's
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: a game that Miami is probably not going to win.
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think the Patriots are in that situation.
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: So here here are my my my coin flips. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: had five coin flip games, Packers at Chargers, at Jags,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: Broncos at Bears on Thursday night. All right, here are
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: my tough games, both Bills games. And this is where
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: we got bogged down because Alex had the right both
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: Bills games at Kansas City, Detroit, and Munich and the
• 50:45
  Speaker 6: hardest game on both of our rankings was at Seattle,
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: obviously in the opener.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: So do you think they're going to lose those games?
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: I think that those those are tough, Like I would
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: say that like if they won, if they if they
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: won those games, then that would be like so making
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: a statement like.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: That would be coin flip games aren't tough.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: The coin flip games are coin flip games.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: But are they fifty?
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: There doesn't win because they're.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: With you fresh six seven? So well, is it's too
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: simple to say some are fifty to fifty? But some
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: of you feel forty sixty, like, you.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: Know, so these ones are a little bit tougher than
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: fifty to fifty. But then he was sixty seventy, and
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: all I was said, you know, I was actually tempted
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: to not have Kansas City and the hard hardest tier.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't, but because it's.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: At Arrowhead, and I until I see that Mahomes isn't
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: still Mahomes and you know all that, I'm going to
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: give them the benefit of doubt. Obviously you're assuming that
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: everybody's healthy and all that. So I put them in there.
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: But they were the one team that I was like,
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: I kind of a tempted to put this I'd be
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: a little hot taky, but I'm attempted to put this
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: on a lower tier. But we got really bogged down
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: the Bill's game. And my my only thing to the
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: caller Josh Allen, like if you beat Josh Allen, that
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: that's an accomplishment.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I think it is all.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: I think that way. A lot of Patriots fans that
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: don't feel different.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: When they just they can't, they can't they can't accept
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: that to say that Josh Allen's good. They can't, they
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: can't do it now, it's unbelievable, Like the guy's been
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: a perennial m VP candidate for half a decade and
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: we can't bring.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: If you're a Patriots fan, you're better saying Josh Allen
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: is good, so when you beat him, it's more of
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: an accomplishment.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I think That's how I look at it. That's how
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: I look at it. I can think the team might
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: be overrated or whatever, but I still respect the bit. Like,
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to sit here and tell you the
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: Patriots will have accomplished nothing if they go on a
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: Monday Night in Kansas City and beat even a weaker
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Kansas City team than what we've seen in recent years.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: That's unless they completely fall apart, which I don't envision
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: with Mahomes. That's that's going to be a good win.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: If the Patriots winning Kansas City, even if they're a
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: middling five hundred team, that's a good win. Yeah, because
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I respect Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and what they've done.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nate's and Iowa same.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: What's up, Nate?
• 53:13
  Speaker 21: Hey, guys, how's it going good? I have a prediction
• 53:18
  Speaker 21: with no evidence to back this up, but feeling that, Yeah,
• 53:24
  Speaker 21: I think that in the NFL in its entirety this season,
• 53:27
  Speaker 21: we're going to see more like mediocre teams in terms
• 53:33
  Speaker 21: that we're not going to have as many juggernauts as
• 53:35
  Speaker 21: we did like last year or the year before, or
• 53:38
  Speaker 21: as many crappy teams as many. So we're gonna see
• 53:41
  Speaker 21: like more teams like floating around like nine and eight
• 53:43
  Speaker 21: and ten and seven. And then I also have a question.
• 53:47
  Speaker 21: I know last year people were talking about how like
• 53:50
  Speaker 21: Drake May's quarterback draft class is gonna kind of you know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 21: reset the market in terms of their salary or whatever.
• 53:58
  Speaker 21: What do you think we have to see out of
• 54:01
  Speaker 21: Drake May this year or even next year to as
• 54:05
  Speaker 21: him be the highest paid quarterback or player of all time?
• 54:09
  Speaker 16: Answer?
• 54:10
  Speaker 23: Thank you.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to be until the next timing, right, Yeah,
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: it is timing.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: But let's let's play the game. What would make you
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: really comfortable as an as Robert Kraft paying him the
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: top salary as a quarterback and Mike Rabel and Elliott Wolf.
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, as long as he plays the same way, similar,
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: similar take care of the ball, you know, show continued
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: growth within the system, you know, just not getting sped up,
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: not getting into the you know some of the times
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: last year where you felt like he'd get out of
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: it for brief periods, I mean in the playoffs was different.
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: But you know, just continue to be. I mean, you complete,
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: you set the record for completion percentage. I mean, you're
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: doing something right. So, but it's gonna be harder this year.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: They're gonna better defenses. There's gonna be road games.
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: Of real consistency in the playoffs too.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Just I would just sign up right now, no slippage saying,
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: you know, similar kind of year. And I'm not talking
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: about statistically because you just mentioned one stat that I
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: don't care about, you know, and I think it's unrealistic
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: to have him complete all those bombs next year, Like
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: so statistically he might not have the e p A
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: on some of those who some of those throws downfield
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: right that.
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: Was through the charts are talking about c Yeah, the
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: defas with the different number, you're.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: None of the matter to anybody, but you.
• 55:26
  Speaker 6: Went, you know, you nailed it over expectation.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's unrealistic to expect her to complete
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: all of those bombs again. But he can very well
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: have just as good as season and if he does that,
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: then I would be okay with it. But you guys
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: are right about the highest paid player in the game,
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: who signs first or second? Him or Caleb Williams, right,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: because second is going to be the one who's the
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: most And if Jaden Daniels bounces back and he signs third,
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: he could.
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: Be the highest the way it works, yeah, I mean,
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: I just think that as much as you would like
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: to see a lot of those, it's a girl anounces, right,
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: you know, better playoff performance certainly is on that list.
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: You get into a point where it's like, well, what
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: are you going to do if you don't pay him?
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: So now you're going to go draft another quarterback and
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: you're gonna go back into the well.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: And I would have already had it because if he
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: shows significant slippage, yeah right, and like, oh, was that
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of a flash in the pan
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: and that's not really what he is right, then I
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: would sit there and say, hm, maybe I need to
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: see a little more.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm looking for has he totally embraced
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: being the leader of the team. Is he has he
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: embraced that? And is he doing it? And he's consistently
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: the reason why we're in the games. And I think
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: that was the quick case last year until Paul's point,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: as long as that remains the case, that he's the
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: reason why we have a chance.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't because of him a lot of times?
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I've seen enough of his deep ball
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: accuracy and I agree, I mean, agree with your point, Paul.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to reproduce what he did last year.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: But from the minute go in training camp as a rookie,
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: you could see that he's got the willingness to push
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: the ball down the field and he's got that actor.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: See.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: I think what I'm preparing myself for this season is
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: for statistically him to have a little bit of a
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: drop off, but us debating he's not as good statistically,
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: but is he better because a better defenses? And you
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: know it was brutal in this one game, but man
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: at the end he pulled you know, those kind of
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: things of how do we parse out not statistically matching
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: up to what he did last year, but still feeling
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: like he's a good player and he's making strides.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: And Nate, I think that you have a chance for
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: your sort of anecdotal observation of the league. I think
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: that's probably accurate. I think we saw a little bit
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: of that last year. And I know, you know, the
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: Patriots and the Broncos had very gaudy records, but I
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: don't necessarily think they were the juggernaut type teams. I
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: certainly don't think Seattle was, even though they were ultimately
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: the best team in football. I think there is a
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: much bigger middle than top and bottom, so what the
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: league wants, and I think you're I think he's probably
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: right about that.
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: It's such a great example of why the strength of
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: schedule stuff is stupid, because, yeah, the Patriots were fourteen
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: and three last year?
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Were they a real fourteen and three team?
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: Now, all these teams playing in this year are getting
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: credit for playing one of the best teams in the league,
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: and so you know, you know, it's yeah, they were
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: very good team last year. But yeah, I think all
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: those you get so caught up in this drink of
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: schedule stuff that you know it is going to kind
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: of regress.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: Might do so Patriots weren't that good a team last year.
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: We're working on the strength of schedule thing.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: We're like, that's how I read it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: We're making small inroads on like getting rid of using
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: last year's records for strength to schedule the following year.
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: I feel like the nerds we were breaking down that way.
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: We could do a better fight, just basically like DVOA,
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: that kind of stuff.
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: Where there's many great ways, even like Vegas win totals,
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: you know what Vegas things, each team is going to
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: be in twenty twenty six. At least you're forecasting what
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: this version of these teams are going to be. It's
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: not always accurate, but at least it's like, Okay, this
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: team has a different coach, this team has a different quarterback,
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: this team has flipped fifty percent of their roster, like
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: and we're at least facing it off of like you know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: the Patriots this year and these teams this year.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: I think very few teams go into a new season
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: thinking we didn't get a little better. Oh, I mean,
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: if it didn't when it's some that you know obviously,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: but most teams feel we've improved on paper.
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: Well, again, like the point I made on a previous
• 59:18
  Speaker 7: show is just that the teams that should feel they
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: got the most better were the teams that sucked because
• 59:21
  Speaker 7: they had the most to do.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: If you're a great team and you're continually building.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: For the future, and you're saying, you know, we're drafting
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: guys that might not contribute this year, but we have
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: that luxury right now and we're going to maintain the
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: level of dominance.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think you need to come out of.
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: The offseason if you're one of the best teams in
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: the league and feel like we got way better.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely want to feel like you're going
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: to improve.
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: But I always have felt that people just dismiss anybody
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: on the team improving like that is not a factor
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: at all. I think that's the number one factor, and
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: I to be honest with right, and that's just so
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: underrated to me. Strides that guys make. So so much
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: of the offseason is judged.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: What did you do in free agency? Well, we know,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: like when you suck, you have to go to free agency.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: You have to make moves that make your fan base
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: feel like we got way better.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I was listening to Taylor Kyle's and he was saying,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: how Kyle Williams is going to.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: Take a bag.
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  Speaker 7: I was asking Ahmed about this, Like Taylor is huge,
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  Speaker 14: Hey everyone? How are we doing today?
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  Speaker 5: Good?
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  Speaker 14: Two part question and this is just something that I've
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  Speaker 14: heard pretty consistently over but just looking for fifth into
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  Speaker 14: Josh McDaniel's system as it relates to the offense and
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  Speaker 14: other than you know, the option route and the quarterback
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  Speaker 14: making a lot of the calls on the line of scrimmage.
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  Speaker 14: I feel like we're still kind of searching for it,
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  Speaker 14: at least I am what Josh McDaniel's mentality and culture
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  Speaker 14: is as the offense. Second point I do want to
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  Speaker 14: make is are we sure McDaniels is going to be
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  Speaker 14: the guy to take Drake May to another level? Obviously
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  Speaker 14: we're going to have the security of an offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 14: with us for a little bit, but I'm not sure
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  Speaker 14: if he's really going to be the guy to get
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  Speaker 14: Drake May that MVP leaven the Super Bowl Championship. I'll
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  Speaker 6: He was okay, he was three votes from being the
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  Speaker 6: MVP last year with Josh McDaniels as this play caller.
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  Speaker 6: So it's a small.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That astounds me is the amount of hate that Josh
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  Speaker 4: still gets. I don't think. I don't think it's the majority,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, calls like that.
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  Speaker 5: I think one of.
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  Speaker 3: The toughest jobs in the NFL is being an offensive
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  Speaker 3: coordinator because you're judged every play, every.
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  Speaker 1: Should have been a run. They try to pass it.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's one of the best play callers in
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  Speaker 6: the league, and I don't think that that's like arguable.
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  Speaker 4: I really look at his track record with the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: Now you want to go with the Raiders, the Broncos
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  Speaker 4: lot of negative stuff you can point to. With the
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  Speaker 3: The fact how many patrion he went with nine seven seven,
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  Speaker 3: amazing tens with Matt Jones amazing all right, I think
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  Speaker 3: our calls were really good today.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think the show's only half over. We are.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we're going to take a break now, but I
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  Speaker 3: think so far the calls have been excellent.
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  Speaker 22: Guys, So basically, I haven't rolle a roller coaster in
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  Speaker 22: a very long time, so i'd probably say like fifteen
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  Speaker 22: fourteen years. And I love my feet being on the
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  Speaker 22: it was a great experience. You know, a lot of
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  Speaker 22: like I was serious on those risk guys. I'm not
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  Speaker 22: a fan, but I'm glad it came out like that,
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  Speaker 22: and the media team put in a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 22: hard working hours into it.
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  Speaker 25: So I loved the situation of all of it for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I would be convince you to deal.
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  Speaker 22: With them just tab it of peer pressure, just a tabit.
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  Speaker 25: So they got me.
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  Speaker 22: We started on like a small roller coaster and then
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  Speaker 22: kind of went from there. And then I was just like, guys,
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  Speaker 22: I'm just not you know, my my heart racing, my
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  Speaker 22: adrenaline Russian and everything. And I've been in situations to
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  Speaker 22: where my adrenaline rush when I rum back there a
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  Speaker 22: part returning, but that's a little different, you know.
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  Speaker 25: So but yeah, that's how they got me.
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  Speaker 26: I'm curious who was the funniest on the roller coaster,
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  Speaker 26: like when you were riding, Like, who.
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  Speaker 6: Was just so out there?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 25: I think it was me and Craig.
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  Speaker 22: I mean, of course I gotta say myself, guys, me
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  Speaker 22: and Craig, I would say the people that weren't you know,
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  Speaker 22: they kept the straight face as you guys seen Trevon,
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  Speaker 22: Like I said, that's a problem. People get on roller
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  Speaker 22: coasters to make facial expressions, not to sit there and
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  Speaker 22: just not making any So him and then Gonza was
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  Speaker 22: pretty cool too, you know as well. I was like,
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  Speaker 22: I don't know how you guys being cool, cold and collective,
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  Speaker 22: but that's not my my forte at all.
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  Speaker 27: What do you make of the schedule? And obviously the
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  Speaker 27: first game Wednesday night in the Super Bowl rematch.
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  Speaker 25: Yeah, I feel like at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 25: You know, it's a new year.
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  Speaker 22: You know, I'm happy about the situation of hearing the
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  Speaker 22: schedule off, the fact that we're getting closer to, you know,
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  Speaker 22: what we love to be a part of.
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  Speaker 25: But at the end of the day, like we're not
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  Speaker 25: looking too far far forward.
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  Speaker 22: I would say, of course, you know, super Bowl rematch
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  Speaker 22: back the end of the day, you know, controlling what
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  Speaker 22: we can control, and it's a lot of things that
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  Speaker 22: we got to get installed training camp that come down
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  Speaker 22: to it, you know, build during preseason and everything.
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  Speaker 25: But we're excited about week one.
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  Speaker 27: We talked the Hunter and Robert whatever it was about
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  Speaker 27: a month ago. He still said that mound is fresh.
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  Speaker 27: Do you feel sort of the same way and if
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  Speaker 27: you came back and watched it and this had happened,
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  Speaker 27: or if this had happened to kind of go through
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  Speaker 27: it like.
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  Speaker 22: That, Yeah, for sure. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 22: you know, we put in a lot of work. You know,
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  Speaker 22: you get all the way to where you wanted to be,
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  Speaker 22: and we didn't get the job done. I mean, we
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  Speaker 22: understand it, but we know our potential and we know
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  Speaker 22: how far that we can go. So you know, you
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  Speaker 22: have a lot of guys that's back on the team
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  Speaker 22: that's been in those situations. So we understand that we
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 22: don't want that to happen again. And it's a long path.
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  Speaker 22: You know, it's week one, you know, after that game,
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  Speaker 22: then we'll be on the week two. So not looking
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  Speaker 22: too far into the future, but knowing where our feet
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 22: are wet.
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  Speaker 16: A schedule, you know, for the first time, what do
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 16: you look for?
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  Speaker 4: Is it place you have been certain teams, pockets of
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  Speaker 4: difficult games?
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  Speaker 16: What do you look at that when you look at
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 16: that schedule the first time.
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  Speaker 22: Yeah, the first thing I'm gonna be honest that I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 22: look for whenever I look at it is what family
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  Speaker 22: members are going to?
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  Speaker 3: What game?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 25: That's the first thing that we kind of look at
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  Speaker 25: is like, all right, are we at the West Coast?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 25: Are we over here? That's the first day.
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  Speaker 22: But other than football wise, you know, at the end
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 22: of the day, that's out of our control. We think about,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 22: you know, whoever we play is whoever we play. Like
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 22: I said, man, we go one week at a time
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  Speaker 22: and then kind of go from there. But we know
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  Speaker 22: that we always play our division games, you know, twice
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 22: those teams. But at the end of the day, we
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 22: don't look too much into exactly who we're playing.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 26: Marcus, I'm wondering your thoughts on your secondary, especially now
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 26: with the addition of Kevin Bard and what that does
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 26: for you.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 22: Yeah, first off, man, KB, he brings in a lot
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 22: of experience back there. You know, a guy like that,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 22: He's seen a lot of different offensive schemes as well,
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  Speaker 22: So we've.
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  Speaker 25: Been talking about a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 22: You know, we have guys as part of the defense
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  Speaker 22: is helping him out on certain things. And then also,
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  Speaker 22: you know, he knows about different offensive coordinators when it
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 22: comes down to it, and being a part of that
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 22: of that conference, you know, in the NFC, you know,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 22: so we play that side and everything. So he's been
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  Speaker 22: a part of it, so that's very important. So he
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 22: kind of knows those situations of certain offensive coordinators that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 22: like to run different schemes, you know, put certain coverages
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 22: in a bind. So having that part of our team
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 22: means a lot.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 26: Do you like the group as a whole now that
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 26: you're all together and potentially what you could do for sure?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 22: Man, everyone has a personality, so that's that's great. And
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 22: then our DV room at the end of the day,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 22: anyone that's in that room. Man, we treat him like family,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 22: So we want to make sure that we get to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 22: know everyone off the field. When it comes down to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 22: a football is great, but building that bond is so important.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 22: So that's something that we always try to scribe for two.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 26: Coaches, real quick on Jeremy Springer. First, he got that
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 26: contract extension that this off season. What has it been
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 26: like working with him and to see what to like
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 26: to see him rewarded.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 25: Yeah, it means a lot.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 22: You know, Uh, spring came in where the sense of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 22: you know, he's been through different head coaches. You know,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 22: as you guys may have seen that that's hard for
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 22: coaches to end up being part of new systems, and
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 22: then also head coaches trusting him that he's going to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 22: do the right job.
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  Speaker 25: So I'm happy for him in that regard.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 22: And then off so like at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 22: what we're doing out there on the field, you know,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 22: it is a reflection of him. And we've been able
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 22: to do a lot on the special team side, not
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 22: only returning, but also on kickoff calls and turnovers, you know,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 22: things that those that nature, So that means a lot.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 22: And then also like when it comes down to it.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 22: He's always listening to us as well whenever we're out there, Hey, Spring,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 22: we kind of seen this, all right, we can go
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 22: ahead and just kind of do this. So it's a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 22: big trust thing. And you know, you guys talk to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 22: Schooler in schools. One of those guys too that talked
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 22: the Spring as well. So having that relationship means a lot.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 26: Zephyr as well being promoted full time now to getting
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 26: that official role as defensive coordinator.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 22: Yeah, first off, man, I commend him for you know,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 22: stepping in shoes. That was you know, big shoes at
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 22: the time. You know, he's never been in that situation.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 22: But at the end of the day, he was always
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 22: letting us know certain plays, you know, certain schemes.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 25: How you guys feel about this?
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 22: He talked to us on the back end, and I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 22: also talk to the guys like what type of blitz
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 22: is wh what are they doing right here? What do
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 22: you guys see out there on the field? And then
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 22: it's a it's a team effort at the end of
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 22: the day. You know, I feel like everyone on the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 22: coaching staff always asked to play, how do you feel
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 22: about this? And that means a lot because at the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 22: end of the day. They can see it out there
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 22: on the field, but they're not us on the field
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 22: as well.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 25: So I feel like it's a it's a team thing.
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  Speaker 2: And now great moments in.
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  Speaker 4: History to make.
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  Speaker 1: Them trade happen, but they got an All Star.
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  Speaker 5: When is the trade headline?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: By the way, July end of July?
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  Speaker 4: And I just don't know why trading for a month
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: and a half. It's a month and a half for now.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: You don't know how calendars work. It's less than a
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: month away the trade deadline, he said, the end of July.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Usually it's the middle of July. But but it's the
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  Speaker 4: end of June.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's like seventeen that's the middle of which is
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: middle of June.
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  Speaker 4: So it's less than a month away.
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  Speaker 3: I said a month and a half because he said
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  Speaker 3: it was the end of July.
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  Speaker 4: You know, so the thirty So the thirty first is
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  Speaker 4: a month and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, you're right, that's a month and a half.
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  Speaker 4: It's July thirty first happen and a half. Why do
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  Speaker 6: It's too bad that Chapman's like having this type of
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  Speaker 6: at the leads.
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  Speaker 1: But he's like he was great last year, lights out.
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  Speaker 4: He's been a little kind.
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  Speaker 4: was that was one of them. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: hear those anymore. I don't like when I'm wrong. I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: was ru uh all right.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Podcast at pages dot com is the email address? What's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: going on, Alex? Anything good for this week?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: I've been kind of stuck. I got to listen to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 8: the end of Tuesday show. I think it's some inspiration
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: for you guys.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: You've been busy this week.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you about You've been very busy
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: this week. You had Drake made on Tuesday right at
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: the Children's Hospital.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 10: We went to go visit some kids at Boston Children's.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tuesday, community Community Day.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: And Michael and then Community Day was yesterday with the
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: whole team.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: And all the coaches.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: Tidbits from Community Day.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: The guys were in really fun, good moods, but not
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: really like.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 10: Pretty community straightforward.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: You know a lot of kids running around.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: It's from Young Woods Elementary School in Providence. They were
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: our adopted school. Yeah, it was a good event. It
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 8: was like field day. They were going crazy.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: Drake was was breaking down how to throw the football
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: and then when the kids got it and he got.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: Pretty into really attentive with the kids, like breaking down
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: their mechanics and stuff like obviously on a very basic
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: level to the best he could.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 10: But I saw some kids improve, like genuinely.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: I mean that's a big thing.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 10: I like those kids.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think I ever had the opportunity
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: to like go to what sports teams place and interact
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: with their team. I like one time my father took
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: me to a Little League thing and I met Bud Harrelson.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: I mean that's the extent of it.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Was that in your Mets fandom, yeah face, oh yeah, oh.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Michail Hodges, but that was the hard one that absolutely.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 7: mL CAR came to our like elementary school, and I
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 7: was a kid, and I was like, who's this giant guy?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 7: Like I didn't know him recognition wise, like as a kid,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: but I mean that was the whole school, like like going.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: Out for mL CAR. mL CAR spoke at our club banquet.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Never get Derek Sanderson's saners to everybody who waved.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: The Evans generation probably got. I didn't ever get any
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: athletes going out to Springfield area for anything like cool, Like.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: We had Chris Harron and I'm sure you yes, rounds.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: He's really good excellent.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: He's really good.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: I was like one of those assemblies that actually was like, wow,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: that was kind of cool.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: That was my Derek Sanderson one, which was the don't
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: do drugs, you know high schools. So I went to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: I know I went to high school, right that cocaine
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 7: it helps you.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I knew that. I went to high school with
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: Derek Sanderson's son Ryan, so we were in the same brain.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: So I've actually been to his house and everything.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I've never met Derek now I was still talking. He
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: just was.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's like tip, you know, it's just the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: old athletes that had knee injuries and like they can't
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: really move all that great anymore.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's got crazy stories.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a couple like that where like we
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: would have remember charity events, you know at school, and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: like a athlete from one of the teams would come
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: and that would be like the big draw was like
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: I actually think Teddy Bruski was at one of them. Yeah,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: Brian Scalabrini was out for sure. You know, like those
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: they would always like get one of the local athletes
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 6: to like be sort of the draw, you know, like
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: you'd be.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: At the top of the and everybody's got a Bobby
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: or autograph, right, like you're just issued that, correct, Like
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: I have like three Bobby.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't. My mother in law Bobby the Bobby or
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: book the like his biography, and he signed it. She
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: went and signed for That's the one reason why I have.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, she got that from me for Christmas, like every
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: house of course, you know, yeah finish.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: Do you remember Freddy?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: I did have the picture maybe a panel of the
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: stadium too, like.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: The do you remember the Star Market home run sweep stix?
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: Like growing up vaguely, So I went to the Butch
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: Hops and Jim Rice's home run clinic. It was at
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: like Brandeis and uh so, yeah, it was probably like
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: maybe ten or eleven at the time, and Jim Rice
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: could not have been better. He was fantastic. Butch Hopson
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: was late. I showed up like a half hour late smoking,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: but it was probably back to the cocaine. He was
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: probably doing lines based on the rest of his career.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, that was
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: a good time. But it's funny like you talk about
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: getting like Drake May showing a kid how to throw,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: so like Jim Rice gets up and he talks for
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: about five minutes, you know, just some fundamentals of hitting
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: and how important is to pick a bat that's the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: right size, you know, not too heavy for you, and
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: you know, all these different things. So then we get
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: up and we all get it chance to take some swings,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: and they don't have any bats that are like little leagues,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: and they're all little kids, like I know, like they're
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: all my age, and we're using like these like thirty.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: Four inch bats as tall as you are.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: And you could just see the exasperation on Rice's faces,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: like I just got pick a bat that's like everybody's
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: choking up like halfway up the bat to try to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: get these bats around all right.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, I never had that experience. So I
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: thought that was cool for the kids yesterday.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, really cool it was.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: And it's cool that they got to come here because
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: usually it's the guys going to their schools or going
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 8: to a boys and girls club, but they got to
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 8: literally go to the brand new facility. Like there's probably
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 8: Patriots players maybe that haven't been at camp yet, that
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: hasn't haven't touched that field yet, right, but like the kids.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: Have Yeah, there you go.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to go there.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: We're just talking about you just.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: Can't help himself. But he doesn't think they were any
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: good last year, and now he's telling you the one
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: thing that's maybe not go.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: You know, we're talking. We're talking about show great community event,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: kids had a great.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Time, and I'm trying to bring it back to football.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: I think I think we should change his nickname from
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Deuce to Doom.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: This is the media member at community day where everyone's like,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: how great does it feel to be out here with
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 8: the kids, And he's just like, so Booty's not here,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: But Booty doesn't like the kids.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: You know, it's a tougher schedule. You're not going to be.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: All right. We were talking about Buffalo bill fans and
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. Jeff in Canada rights in the Bills
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: franchise is largely supported by what's known in Canada as
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: the g T, a Greater Toronto area.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: That's a good point, not the video game.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: Millions of people and tons of corporate money. They love
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: to choose for loser franchises like the Leafs. Otherwise, Fred
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: is right, Buffalo alone can't support an NFL team with
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: seventy thousand seats. I think it will stay routy though.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Look at Seattle, all tech money still crazy.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: Good point. Good point. So those tech bros get loud.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Did the Sabers play The Sabers play the Canadian national anthem?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so the Bills. No, But the Sabers play the
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: Canadian national anthem because they claim that people come over
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: the border from Toronto to watch Sabers games a cap
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: like you're telling me those people aren't Leafs fans like there,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: so maybe they're just coming just for the hockey, but
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: they're not coming.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I think the Bills need to do it too. I
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: mean that I don't know from the GTA, like knowing.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: How crazy Toronto people are for the Leafs. I just
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: can't imagine that you're from Toronto and you're a Sabers
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: fan that just does.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: It's in Toronto. Maybe they're just trying to.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not like the Sabers history is much better.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: They can't get enough hockey.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Jeff also says, I agree with Deuce. The Broncos game
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: that late is odd. What if both teams have clinched
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: and we're watching Stidham versus de Vito. Do you ever think,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: with the help of AI the NFL could figure out
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: a way to make games flexible to a completely different
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: week of the schedule.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: I put nothing past.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 7: Them, Okay, I wanted that too, some like crazy ass
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 7: like you know, just day like they're Tuesday, and then
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: they're very like.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: I'm going to play the role of would you call
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: them doom yeah, doom boom doomsday? Dude. I thought when
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: you brought that up about being surprised that the Denver
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: game was so late, you were sort of alluding to
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: I would have thought they would have had those two
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: teams which were kind of surprised teams last year. Are
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: we banking on them being really good again, or are
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: we gonna sort of, you know, couch it and put
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: it in the middle of the season. So that's interesting,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, where I thought you were getting at.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: Now, I didn't thought about that. I mean, I I
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: just I've gotten used to the last two games usually
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: being divisional games, and you know, I know that's not
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 7: always the case. But it just felt to me like
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 7: this is kind of a random, weird one right there.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it may be. I mean it
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: also could.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Be the same way it actually when it's rematches of
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: like big playoff games. I feel like that's usually early
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: in the season.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 10: I would agree his injury timeline.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 6: Well, so he had like a cleanup procedure recently that
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 6: they're obviously claiming was Oh, it's just part of the whole.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: Thing success that they put that out.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't anything to.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: Be alarmed about that he needed a second cleanup procedure.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: Nothing to worry about. And I'm not like making fun
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: of the Broncos like this is how they everybody, Oh, like,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 6: don't worry, it's not not serious. But it sounds like
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: he's going to be fine, but tickets, he's not. He's
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: not fine yet.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: I would just say, I agree with you guys, like
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: the division games usually the last two, I don't have
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: any sort of I wouldn't say I wouldn't have put
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: that game late because I think they're both going to
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: have clinched with you know, two games to go. I
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: don't know what they you know, i'd be surprised if
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: they've clinched something with two games to go.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that doesn't happen very often, But I.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Am you know, I think that was part of the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: rationale with the Patriots in Seattle, And I'm allowed to
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: say this, Fred gave me permission super Bowl rematch in
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: Week one. I think, at least in part, the mindset was, yeah,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: they both went to the super Bowl last year, but
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: let's make sure we get a bang for this with
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: the super Bowl rematch, as opposed to if I played
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: in a Week ten. You know, maybe one or both
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: of the teams is it five hundred or worse, and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: maybe I don't get as much of a buzz out
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: of it. I think that was at least part. I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: think that Mike Reese had a quote from a guy
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: kind of indicated that right in his Sunday.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Note fresh Hans Hans Schroeder.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: You know what's we don't always.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: Made?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 7: Fred, you mad an interesting point, though, Paul, I thought,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 7: with this Seattle game and in the in the mail
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 7: bag last week or the middle letterletter mail letter, but
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 7: that you've seen teams play flat, raise a banner and
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 7: condat and play.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: A lot of a funny game to play. Yeah, the
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: record is what it is that the home team has
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: a great.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 7: Record in that yeah, seventeen game I remember with Kansas
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 7: City where.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think that they won in nineteen
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: though it's a funny, emotional game sometimes.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they beat Pittsburgh in nineteen right, it was Pittsburgh.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, they thrashed them.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: But then and then they were getting in. They were
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: getting Antonio Brown too.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 19: Right.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: And I was at the Celtics opener in twenty five
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: after they hung their banner for twenty four and they throttled.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: I think it was the Knicks. I think they won
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: by like thirty Yeah, you know, so, I think it
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: could go either way.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Evan doesn't like it when he's given free T shirts
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: when he goes to a game. Ellen Wisconsin says, I
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: don't always agree with Evan, but in this aspect, he
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: has never been more wrong. Please continue to give us
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: free T shirts.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: Okay, so you're missing the let me just be very
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: crystal clear. You're you're missing. You're missing where the angst is.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: It's not about the free element of it. It's like
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: it's this is a like the expectation that you're going
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: to wear. This is like a gimmicky, small market thing
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: that we don't need. He feels like we're above that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: one hundred percent. We're not one hundred percent. Thank you
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: for your go go do your gimmicky T shirt.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: However, Anthony also says free T shirts rock Evan, why
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: not keep the shirt? It's not about keeping the shirt,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: he just doesn't want to put it on.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, hundred percent the yeah. No, it's not about
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: the freeness of the shirt or keeping the shirt. It's
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: about like, oh, like this section is going to be
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: in blue and that section is going to be in
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: white and this section is going to be in red
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: or what.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: You don't have any desire for that, like now o
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: case he did last night. Now keep that done?
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Whatsoever?
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 6: You keep that for your small market teams along those lines,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: and he.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: Loves the question for you.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Paul and I just got them like we were in
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: the stands for the Super Bowl?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 7: Did you struggle trying to figure out what side of
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: that thing we're supposed to hold up? Pregame like they
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: were like I was thinking, like everyone around us was like,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 7: what side am I hold?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 25: Like?
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: It was so confused.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: Thought I thought there was instructions.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't like it.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what I think.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: Alex and I had no problems navigating that situation.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: We had a lot of Margarita's that day.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: You know, holding up.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 10: A fraction of Maddie Drake one of us.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think one of.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 6: The difference in that day for Fred and I versus
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: you guys.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: I've said many times to Fred twenty eight years. This
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: time that was the best thing you've ever done for
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: that was fantastic.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: Justin Brooklyn writes in about a YouTube observation on the show.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: Though I typically listened on Spotify, PU is now part
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: of my YouTube algorithm and suggested video section, and I
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: noticed something funny. The image that accompanies a recorded episode
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: is the still frame of someone from the episode. It's
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: always a picture of Alex if she's on the show.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: If not, then it's typically Deuce on Tuesday and other
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: occasional episodes. I'll get served, Paul Fred and Evan not
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: so much. I'll get served Paul Fred and Evan not
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: so much. Anyway, Well, I mean, look at me, Why
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: would you want to put me out? I was going
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: to say, we're leaving a dumb nail. I mean, the
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: West Side Show is much better looking than the right time.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: Just we're just saying, like when Alex is on the
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 6: show and they put Alex, yeah, we know, yeah.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 5: Right, We're trying to get people to watch.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: Anyway of us are responsible for that.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: No you, but thank you to whoever is thank you anyway.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: For a football question, A J.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Brown is preferable to now you are turning, but Digs
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: won't require a draft pick?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: What pick level is too expensive for Brown? Where you'd
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: rather sign Diggs.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving up I don't think Diggs has coming.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not giving up my first round pick in twenty
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: twenty seven, twenty eight.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with this, which is what everybody seems to
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: be reporting.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Really, I'm not.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not touching the twenty twenty seven draft. It's too
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: good of a draft. I'm not giving up the first
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 6: round pick twenty twenty eight. Like then you're like stinking,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: Like I just I can't imagine they're gonna stink two
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: years in a row like that, Like if they have
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: a backslide next year, like maybe it's injury, play season
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: something like that, that's not gonna happen two years in
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: a row, you would imagine. So I feel pretty good
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 6: about them being a good team in twenty twenty eight.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 6: I just I think the next year's draft is gonna
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: be a historically good draft, And I don't want to touch.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: It, Dylan, and Nashville says.
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  Speaker 3: With the new stadium in Nashville funded by one point
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: twenty six billion of about two billion in public funding,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: many of my friends who have season tickets in the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: old stadium have been priced out. They hike PSLs and
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: ticket prices significantly, all with the awful on field product
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: that they are producing. They're turning into a Vegas like
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: stadium where opponents will have fifty plus percent of the
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: fans at the game.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's accurate because that's a good road
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: trip and they have the super Bowl.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 6: Right. Yes, I'm interested to see how that is going
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: to work because it is a great road city and
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 6: it's a great trip. But everything kind of happens in
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: the same like two or three block radius in a
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: city like that, Like it's not a very expansive city.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: So well, when you're hosting a super Bowl, you need
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 6: the infrastructure to.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: Have ever been in New Orleans. That's not much bigger, I.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: Would say, But New Orleans has had the Super Bowl
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: time and time again, like they probably have it kind
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: of down.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: To Nashville doesn't have huge conventions. I mean, they're they're
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: set up for big conventions.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 8: I wonder if how so much space to build Still
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 8: we're building more.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Broadway is going to be good luck even getting
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: around Radio Road on.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 8: New Orleans and the French Quarter is definitely sizely different
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 8: than Broadway.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to go down Bourbon Street on
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: a Friday night before the Super Bowl?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: So New Orleans.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 10: San Francisco was plenty expansive.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: I just want I.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: Think Nashville will be perfect Super Bowl.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know enough about Nashville, but I do my
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: mind's eye tells me it's more similar to New Orleans,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: and I think New Orleans is absolutely yea the best venue.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: We know Broadway, But there is other parts of the city.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: You know, it's still kind of walking distance, but maybe
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: like a half mile away where there's still restaurants and
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: stores and stuff. So it's a little bigger than you
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: think because we only see.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: That part of it.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: Okay, I'll take a word for it. I'm just like everything.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: A couple of times that we've been down there. Uh,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 6: it's an awesome time, like I would highly recommend, but
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: also like it's busy even on a regular Friday or
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: Saturday night. Oh, let alone, Now the Super Bowl is here.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: It's going to put on the bachelor party weekend, bachelorette.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: Party, bachelorette Oh my god, all over the.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: Imagine you happened to plan about charette not even knowing,
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 8: like the Super Bowl week and.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: I could see that happening.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: I just wonder.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: I was just, you know, in La, the Olympics are coming.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they're doing the Olympics.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 7: I mean that city has already crammed to the gills
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 7: with cars and people, and.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: You're now the whole Olympics to set upon there. It's
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: going to be a nightmare.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: Yep. Jordan writes in subject line, how is Buffalo better?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: Exclamation question, excellment blah blah blah. We've been discussing Buffalo
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: this year compared to last year.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: I do not fat Buffalo's worse, not better.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: I do not know how anyone could look at Buffalo
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: and not see regression. This year, McDermott got the absolute
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: most from a defense that did not have a lot
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: of talent. How does Joe Brady improve the team by
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: moving from OC to head coach? In my opinion, his
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: skills are diluted by having him over both sides of
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: the ball. I foresee regression from Buffalo. Josh Allen covers
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of glaring holes in that roster. But I
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: think they're asking way too much.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I would just I'm gonna play Devil's advocate.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know how it's going to work out because
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: these are all unknown things. But like, how did Ben
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: Johnson do? Is the offensive coordinator turn head coach of
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: the Bears? Pretty good? Was he better than the guy
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: that he replaced? Excellent? Yeah? Yeah? So what if Joe
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: Brady is better than the guy he's replacing?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: Right, And Jim Leonard is better than Sean McDermott at
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: running a defense?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: And again, just Devil's advocate, I have no idea these
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: guys are. Joe Brady's never been a head coach. Neither
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: was Ben Johnson. He was arguably the best coach in
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: football last year. I mean, you could certainly put him
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: in the top five for coach of the year, Right,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: what if Joe Brady's better than Sean McDermott, Like, you
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: can't just assume he's worse.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 7: I just I'm trying to divide my wishful thinking between
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 7: like what my eyes see and like I see what
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: everybody kind of sees. And it's the same thing with Mahomes.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 7: We talk about Brady fell off without Gronk, without Edelman.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 7: You could see that that offense was falling apart, and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: you know, are they doing enough? Are they putting enough
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 7: around those guys to make it easy? And you know,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 7: one thing I would say to Ben Johnson is that,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 7: you know, he was such the wonder kid of offense
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: and you know, incorporating everybody, and you know, had a
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 7: personality like I don't know if that's Joe Brady or not,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 7: you know, and again like I don't know what it's
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 7: going to be, but to me, it sounding like he
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 7: was the guy that was the Josh Allen whisper and
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: that kind of got him the job. Was he like
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 7: this great offensive coordinator that you know, you feel like, oh,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: he's going to take the offense in new directions. To me,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 7: the sign points to it's them and Josh keep making
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 7: the magic happen, Like keep doing it.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: I think it's just they're putting a lot on their quarterbacks.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: I think there's no doubt that I think the roster
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: around Josh Allen is not as good as has been
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 6: in the past.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: No, but I thought that last year.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And they thought they were a worse team last year.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: No, No, and I would agree. And I think that
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: on paper they're better than they were last year. In
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: that regard, Now that doesn't matter because paper doesn't win games. Yeah,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: it only matters how they play.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, besides DJ Moore, I don't know what
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: else they did that really it moves the needle. But
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: I hear what people are saying in terms of if
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: you look at the totality of it, as if.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: People are listening two veteran names that are no longer
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: in the team and they're thinking they're worse. And I
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: think it's very similar to what Rabel did here. He
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: got rid of guys that he knew weren't going to
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: be better than they had been. Matt Mulano as an example,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: who was a terrific player for them for a lot
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: of years. He's not getting better. They let him go.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: And I think that Evan's point about Jim Leonard is
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: a valid one. I don't know how he's going to
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: be running that defense. Maybe he's better. Maybe the guys
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: that they replaced all those veterans with, like the Patriots
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: did last year with Carlton Davis and Harold Landry and
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: calevon Chase are better than the guys they're replacing. That's
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: how the Patriots got better. They replaced a bunch of
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: veterans with guys who played better than those veterans had played.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: I just Rubberts blains better than Jawan Bentley. I don't
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: know what the Bills like. I don't know enough about
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: the ins and outs of Jim Leonard to know what
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: his scheme is going to be. But maybe they're more
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: suited to Jim Leonard than Sean MCIs.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 25: Well.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: They're changing their entire system. Like they were an even front,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 6: four down defense, nickel defense a lot of the time.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: Now they're going to be a three to four So
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 6: they're changing their entire structure of their defense, and maybe
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: they they're better suited for that.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they can stuck the run.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe they can stop the run, right, I mean,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: but you know, I think ultimately for me, it's just
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: when you have Josh Allen, like, I don't think you're
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: going to totally stink, Like, you know, people are kind
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: of hoping that the wheels really come off, and it's
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: like well, what does that even look like when you
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: have a top five quarterback in the NFL? Like the
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 6: wheels coming off for them is like in a twelve
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: wins the wheels came off last Yeah, and they won
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: twelve games.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 4: This is what I'm trying to say, Like, right, they're
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: not anywhere nearest talented as they have been Buffalo. I
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: see the same personnel stuff that the fans are talking about,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: and they still won twelve games.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 7: And the game that happened here in December where they
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 7: were in a hole right out of the gate. You
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 7: thought the Patriots were about to win the division, and
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 7: then what happens. Josh Allen starts doing Josh Allen things
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 7: even with that team, and they still couldn't stop them.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Let's see Gerald from Grimsby Rights in about the GTA
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: the Greater Toronto Area. I just want to find tune
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: what Jeff said, Buffalo, the Bills and the Sabers are
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: not so much supported by the g t A as
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: they are by Hamilton in the Niagara region, which combined
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: for one point one million people. For the Niagara Region,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: Buffalo is actually closer Hamilton. You don't have to deal
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: with the nightmare of Toronto traffic deuced. The Buffalo Bills
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: do play OH Canada at their home games?
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: I have never heard. No, I have never heard.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: So then I do we have to discount everything else
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: in his email because he got that wrong.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, maybe we missed it, Fred,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: but we've been at.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: The last four.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: There is one game that's like their Canada game. Yeah,
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: so maybe in that game they do.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's the game I have never heard of Canada
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: and the Patriots, but Bills game in Buffalo love is.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: They do not play O Canada.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love O Canada.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 6: So if they played it, I'd be like I'd clocked
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: that in a second. Great the Bruins play Canadians.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 8: The Bruins anthem followers or the singer recently followed me
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 8: and Todd Angel. Yeah, and that was when I was like, wow,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 8: like this is a cool Instagram follow you know, you
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: know we.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Love waiter upstairs?
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: Is that right? Yeah? I never heard that before.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 7: He's a bartender and he runs down and he's got
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 7: to put his time back.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 10: He shakes up some Martinez, runs back down.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: He's great time.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 7: He has him like he's a character with personality like
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 7: when they got you know, Ridcurd legend huge.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: But I think Todd Angel.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: Cameron writes in about the T shirts tell Boston Celtics
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: to put tissues in the back of Evan's chair at games.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: With the amount of crying he does.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 8: The Celtics should just go one Bro shirt every single
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: Now I'm ending this episode to your ticket rep.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 10: What I'm sending this episode to your ticket I.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: Just like I don't need the gimmicks like this is
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: the Boston Celtics were seventeen championships, real sports like Bill Russell,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: Larry Bird, Like do you think that those like there
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 6: came into the old Boston Garden in the eighties, the
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 6: Celtics plaining the Lakers and Bird versus Magic and put
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: your T shirt on like no, like, no, no one
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: was doing that.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: It doesn't seem a little bit new fangle that type
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: of thing, like you know.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: New York Giants.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 10: It's a Celtic.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: We don't do.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 5: That, we don't.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: I know what Evan's point is, they don't do it
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 4: at MSG were above. There's a reason I know.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: I get.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 8: Sponsorship for you know, a company gets to custom ach
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 8: or whoever does it gets to slap their logo on
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 8: these T shirts that.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 10: Are all over.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: I've heard a lot of people like a lot of
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: people are like a little jealous of other teams in
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: the NFL where they have things that they do and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: the whole everybody takes part and they all participate tradition.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: And I've heard people say.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's no point in doing it here because we
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: just don't do that notion.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: To do something, the less we're going to do it.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 6: That's what I don't. I could not agree more. I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: think the only thing that's stuck that I actually that
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: I actually really like is the band fanner the fan
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 6: banner captain at the Bruins playoff games and they usually
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: bring out alumni of some sort and that's a really
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 6: cool ritual that I don't know when that started, but
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 6: that one actually stuck and like feels organic, like no offense.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 6: But the bell does not.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: It doesn't feel organic, and it's really really hard.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 8: The organic thing is also with the banner captain is
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 8: the jokes on Twitter about like who should like when
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 8: Karen Reid like Karen, Yeah, that's funny jokes.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the couple that got caught on the camera.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: The banner Captain's cool.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Paul, you might know the answer to this. When did
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Sweet Caroline start?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 21: Like?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: When did that become organic?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: So you know, funny story. It all comes back to
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: Patriots Unfiltered slash p of your progress to our original producer,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: a guy named Gary Grideki used to work sort of
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: in that field for Ed Fenway. He would he did
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 4: like in Stadium enterang. He played Sweet Caroline one night
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: and the crowd went crazy, so they kept doing it again.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: It happened organically. Now ironically it's become sort of the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: bane of a lot of.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 10: Stories about that going on.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 6: Well, it's just different into Bob and the Red Sox
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 6: are down eight to one.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I will say that the story that I
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: heard from one Gary, he's taking credit. Maybe he's taking
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: credit for something he doesn't deserve to have credit for.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: But I don't, I mean I never, he never really
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: struck me as that kind of guy.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: He doesn't.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: It's a lady named Amy Toby that did it.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: Amy Toby.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: That's Amy Toby of I know her.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 10: That's Sharon TV's Amy Toby.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: What really?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 22: So?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: What? What?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: What that's that's in the reddit threads?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 5: What are you reading?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: What does it say.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety seven, Amy Toby, an employee in charge
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: of the ballpark music at Fenway Park, played Sweet Caroline
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: during Boston Red Sox game.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: Because and then I'm not reading the right Amy Toby.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I will ask Amy Toby. I talked to her all
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, but that's just read in relation to George Tobya.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I don't believe just Toby t o b e y.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: I have to agree with Alex. That is just Reddit.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 7: So yeah, well no, hey, I at least to know
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 7: that somebody's very.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 10: Could have been Okay, this is the story I heard.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 4: Both of those things are true.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: Amy Toby is credited on History Channel dot com.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 8: The story I heard is that it was to honor
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 8: a woman named Caroline, who like worked at Fenway as
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 8: like the the dot yep okay, the daughter of longtime
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 8: Fenway Park scoreboard operator. And then like when she was born,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: they played Sweet Caroline because the baby was named Caroline.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, it doesn't bother me as much as fathers
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 6: other people, A lot of people.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 4: It doesn't because it's not for me. And I've always
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: thought that, like if if a bunch of people want
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: to go and get really excited about that. I don't
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: know why that bothers you so much. Like Dan shaughn,
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: I like it, Like what what's I think it's just
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: a big deal.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 6: I think it just matters how the game is, how
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: it's going, you know, like to do it when they're
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: losing like big, like they're getting blown out at all.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 6: I maybe not the time inspired came to that.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true, Like Fenway really is. It's a destination ballpark,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 8: you know, right, non red talks.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, that's why.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: We can't get unfortunate about it, and we.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: Can't get anybody can actually do anything to make the
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: team better because they it's a museum and they just
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: get people.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 4: Oh that's make a handover fist and there's no.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: Getut to in certain games.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I'm I'm saying, like that wild Card
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: game in twenty twenty one.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, six years ago.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: They can they get a gate no matter what because
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: it's Fenway Park and people want to come see Fendway Park.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 6: And like we've been to games recently where like the
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 6: out of town fans are just as many as Red
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 6: Sox fans are there.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 4: Wait, till the summer comes.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: It's a it's a I'd rather have that than empty
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: stadiums that I see on TV when the Red.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 10: College Girls have done a really.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: Good because because the the ownership is still getting their
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: gate so there's no reason to actually put a good
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: team on the field.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: Because well, if you look at it that way, and
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: so making sure that John Henry still makes his money, if.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: You look at it that way, I understand. But you know,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: I like seeing full ballparks.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what you like to see Red Sox Yankees
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: And there's as many Yankees fans at Fenway Park and
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 6: they're selling Yankees things and not as many.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: There's a lot, there's always been.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 4: There's there were a ton of Yankees fans for that
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: series that the Yankees swept them.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this has always been a lot of Red Sox
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: at Yankee Stadium and a lot of Yankee fans at
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: Fenway always not nothing new, nothing.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: There was more Yankee fans than Red Sox fans in
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: that series Dodgers Cardinals.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: Maybe they were just hearing louder because they had more
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 3: to cheer about Cubs.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: But we would like to have more to cheer about,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: you ide. But you know, we would like to have
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: more to cheer about two. That's the point.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 6: We would like to have players like we'd like to
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 6: have Aaron Judge also, but we don't because, like I,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 6: we just wanted Pete Alnzo.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: And we even go to change it is the bottom line,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: and the bottom line remains virtually unchanged because the museum
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: is largely.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: That's why I went on strike and didn't renew.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: My museum is just.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Greg Breslay, got your back, keep working at it. We'll
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: get it right. Just keep working at it.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Got your Fred, don't worry.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: Imagine putting your stock in that guy.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: Fords and Savannah. I have a little game, choose your
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: top three quarterbacks to go into a season with if
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 3: your life depends on winning at all, and they will
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: be placed on a random team with a random head coach.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: I would go Patrick Mahomes because he's done it before,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen he has been one of the two best
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the past five years, and Drake may ascending.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: Let's go, so those are his top three.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: That's a tough one because we've never done it, so
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel great.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: So we're just kind of ranking the best quarterbacks that
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: we're doing well, guys, you know we're gonna get it
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: done for you.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if i'd put Mahomes at number
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 6: one anymore really, But would.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: You put a number one Josh.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: Josh Allen, Matthew Stafford's healthy Joe Burrow.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: Healthy Joe Burrow.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: Healthy Joe Burrow should get some attention.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 6: I mean I do too.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 10: It's just been so long for healthy Joe Burrow.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: It's hard to like it's been a couple of years
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: since Mahomes has been Yeah, okah, but.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: He was just in the Super Bowl. Like even when
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 4: he's not a leader, he's good enough to get his
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: team to.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 10: The Super he has the freak element.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: And I agree with you, he hasn't been for a
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: couple of years.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: I would. I would, even though Josh Allen hasn't gotten
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: there yet. I would. I Just him and Mahomes to
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: me are the ones that God.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: Probably would be my three. But like Lamar Jackson again,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: like Josh Allen hasn't really been able to get if
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 4: I had to like have everything that, you know, weighing
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: on winning at all, he's still done it and he's
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: had more opportunities, he still picked Brady.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: That'd be funny, Tyler and Ludlow. With PFW in Progress
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: having the title of the world's original podcast, what are
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: the chances we get in a original story documentary? Podcasting
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: is huge and there is definitely a market for an
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: HBO documentary. How Fred and the team were ahead of
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: the game. I could see it do so. Production flashing
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: in the opening credits, video, footage of Fred in the
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: early years, and even interviews with longtime listeners all part
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: of it. RKK, please make it happen.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 10: I've said this for a long time.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 8: Fred Kirsh do your job would be awesome, but it
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 8: couldn't be a normal do your job like It couldn't
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 8: be your simple like a couple minutes long like.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: Star the invoices, No we need like I want you
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: talking with Jonathan Kraft being like, hey, we should have
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: a website for the team.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 10: That's the stuff I want.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: We don't have that video we can.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 12: And we can get dramas going to play Fred.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: I would play young Fred in the FX.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: You want to play you? Timothy Shall, shall you look
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: like back in the day?
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 4: Who plays me?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 10: Who plays you?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 8: Here's here's our newsletter talking right now, this is going
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 8: to be our newsletter.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 7: I need I need like a Fred Tree, you know,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 7: where's like top and can you see pick?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: You know young friend plays Brian Morey just ranting about something.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 8: I want a contact or even Yeah, James Pettis were
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 8: the most indssing.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: We're shooting for the stars, Jessica.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 8: I couldn't think of an average looking woman in Hollywood.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, stop just like two.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 10: Of the top ten, they're my top ten.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Rick Schrotter is probably available to do me, like,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: you know, like.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: I'd have to be a pretty nerdy person. Yeah, I
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: don't know. I can't think of a.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Jonah what about it? Jonah Hill? Like you know, I mean,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was funny.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: I don't know if I was enough. Yeah, I don't
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: know if I'm I'm not the communicant Jonah Hill.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: It's not playing well.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: He didn't move on money I was just about the analytic.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 6: He played deep a Deska and Moneyball.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 3: So no, you know who's the guy that start in
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: the movie about Facebook.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that's good as you get angry of it.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Good he would be you know, Yeah, that's a good one.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: Imagine they go when they give me a.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: T shirt, let's put her T shirts and everybody.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 10: Yeah that was a great movie.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: And he's dead now it's too bad. But who played
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: Lenny Briscoe? That would be Paul Jerry or Jerry orb
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: that's Paul.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: Det convenient dad.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 6: Right, Jerry o'brock and he was he's the father.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: Who are your father?
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 5: We can't use it?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: So is Patrick Swage use a I Jerry or back?
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: Why what makes you think? I'm not offended by that?
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: But what he just cause you.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: Get the same kind of good language is a good character.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: I thought you were gonna say Marlon Brando or something
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 5: I was thinking of somebody.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: Like I really old al Pacino.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got Timmy Shall, James Michael young friend.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know what.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: Let's see, James Pettigrew says, Remember Stevie h and Mike
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: and Mikey Vandalism's premium m P three's.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 5: Remember those.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: Perhaps we can throw back to those days. I remember
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: when Fred first asked for them. We were breaking new
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: ground at the time. We were like the star Trek
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: of podcasts. He's talking about m P threes.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Remember that Pirate of many of the iods are coming back.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I still have one.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 10: I would kill for mine to not be broken.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 6: No, socks still has one, mind so that I never
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 6: use it.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 10: I had like eight thousand charged up.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 8: I still find some hotel that still has the old
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 8: I homes every hotel.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Every time.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 10: The new iPod was crap at the time.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: Scam.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they were scam and again you have to buy
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: a new one every time.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: It was like, look like your iPhones, like your headphone's case,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: but it actually could play. Maybe it's Apple music, but
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: it was you know what I mean.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 7: It was into the Yeah, it was incorporated into the
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 7: I don't know if this if I saw something from
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: the future.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: Remember when Microsoft tried to come out with a competitor
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: to the.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: iPod, Yeah, the Zoom.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 10: None of them worked.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so now it's all the.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 10: Sun stuff my iPod. N I have so many songs on.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 6: That silver iPod original like the like Block one yeah,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 6: yeah that.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 10: Was original video one.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had that one.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 8: Third gen the third gen video is the one that
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 8: was super mainstream and I could not believe.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 10: I like, it wasn't even on my radar. And it's
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 10: what I got.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 8: For Christmas from my mom like, and I was like,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 8: I didn't know we were falling like this, Mom, like,
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 8: this is a great gift.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think that's the one I have is.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: The video one. I don't have a video one.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, did you run on and get an iPod like
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 7: an iPhone? As soon as they came out? I had
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 7: to finish here the program.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 5: The first one was cool.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: It was made out of plastic, but the back of
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: it was curved really because it was supposed to fit
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: into your hands.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 10: What did you have before that? Like, were you a
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 10: BlackBerry guy sidekick?
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 15: No?
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: I never had a BlackBerry. I had really didn't have
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: a BlackBerry from No, we had Next Tells, remember that, But.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: We had I had, for a very short period of time,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: a BlackBerry.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 8: My mom had a BlackBerry and it was Next tell too.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 8: It was like a collab, so it had and Yeah.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: I never had the Next Tail here. I do remember
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: when you guys had those.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 3: My first my first cell phone was a little phone.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: I got it while we were still having camp at
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: Bryant College. I know that, and I ended up giving
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 3: it to Mike Reese yea his first cell phone. I
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: didn't need it anymore. So I just gave it to him.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you're getting this.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: We got from probably mid two thousand, you know, in
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: the midats we got a BlackBerry, and then like literally
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: six months later, we got our first iPhone.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 7: I still missed the BlackBerry, and I missed the brick
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 7: breaker two and the buttons.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was okay. The BlackBerry I didn't have, you know,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: and I don't know in.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 7: California, I was married to my BlackBerry.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: But it was fine.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: There were BlackBerry users who swore, I'm never going to
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: give this up. I don't care about it didn't take long.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 7: That was my mom My boss was kicking and screaming
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 7: down to the end of the BlackBerry. And I would
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 7: get emails at like nine o'clock on a Saturday night, like, hey,
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 7: my BlackBerry's not working, can you fix it real quick?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: You know, like that kind of and I'd have to
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: like go down a rabbit hole of like reinstalling and
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: all that crap.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 6: That was what they make them do in Hollywood, they do,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: And then people wonder why I didn't want to do that.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: Why do you think Deuce is perpetually in a good movie?
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 6: Because I'm not having to fix a BlackBerry. Great, it says,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 6: fix my BlackBerry, like you fix your BlackBerry.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: Mike, Mikey.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 7: We got to go through our Christmas presents, so you
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 7: can you just you know, come in and I have
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 7: to like sit there and they would be like wine,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: give basket wine, and then I have to buy everything
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 7: and then drive it all around l A and deliver everything.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: Like it was.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 6: It was sleeze balls.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: Kyle Kyle uh from Maine says he's a fan of
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: Christian in La says, I really enjoy what Christian NLA calls.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: He's the only caller that can change the current mood
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: of the show instantly makes it makes you wonder why
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: he's what he's going to say next. Is he mad
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: at Paul? Is he criticizing the Patriots? Or is he
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: just stirring up the pot. I have the biggest grin
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: the whole time. Doesn't matter what he says, but it's
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: the back of everyone's mind the whole show, and his
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: name gets brought up every hour even if he doesn't
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: call in. He's that itch in the middle of your
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: back you just can't reach. Keep up the great calls.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 8: Christian he didn't go in today, What's going on with
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 8: you guys.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: Called Tuesday and he had some tone, but yeah, he's
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: a he's a good villain.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: You need callers like uh and Vivek writes him big
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: fan of the show. But I have to point out
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 3: something that Paul said last week. I do agree with
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: the major point that Paul brought up when arguing with
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: Christian in l A. And I hate to sound like
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: I'm defending that guy, but Paul's point about December Diggs
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: doesn't really hold up when he had back to back
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: one hundred yard games in December. I agree that he's
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: probably a descending player and don't think we should bring
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: him back, but had to pedantically pick at Paul a bit,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: as he's usually right, so the opportunity is not always there.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: That's okay. I think my point was down the stretch,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: when the games get bigger, he tends to disappe.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: All right, we got three callers on hold. Let's get
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: to him real quick because I have to a meeting
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: I have to go to.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: We'll go to Joe and Pennsylvania. What's up Joe.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 28: Hey, guys, I think s take my call. I'll get
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 28: right to it. And a comment about Caleb Loman, but
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  Speaker 28: just the thing for Paul real quick. And Paul, I
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  Speaker 28: like when everyone calls calls up and they ask you
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  Speaker 28: those patriot history questions and like your memory is so
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  Speaker 28: good with it, and I know you're a big Seinfeld fan.
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  Speaker 28: But then when someone called you up with that, or
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  Speaker 28: when there was that Seinfeld trivia about the about the
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  Speaker 28: maister in the house in Tuscany, I couldn't believe you
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  Speaker 28: couldn't get it.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I know, I needed I needed Matt to look
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  Speaker 4: up who is the one that actually said it? It was
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  Speaker 4: the Maestro.
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  Speaker 3: Well he didn't have money on that show. He has
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  Speaker 3: money on the babies.
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  Speaker 28: It made me think though, that that you can kill
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  Speaker 28: They should call you up with some Seinfeld trivia during
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  Speaker 28: the off season.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, fred actually Fred was would blow me away. And
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  Speaker 4: Seinfeld we'll take.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take Seinfeld trivia.
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  Speaker 14: I got one for you.
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  Speaker 28: I just thought of while I was on hold.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but.
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  Speaker 28: What was George's atm oh.
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  Speaker 3: What was his atm pin? You know, Oh, that's a
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  Speaker 3: good one. That's a good one. I know that Matt
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  Speaker 3: knows it.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, you say, fred Oscosco Costco.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yeah, you got it.
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  Speaker 1: Good Matt and Sir Matt.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks Joe, appreciate the call.
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  Speaker 3: Let's keep him going in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 29: What's up, Saba, Hey guys, I tay you Okay, A
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 29: couple of things. First of all, Alexandra, think you're compd
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 29: Hollywood could be friend Drusser, not the voice, but she
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 29: might just play you.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: Franch Tresher Okay.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 29: She was a chandler's girlfriend or friends. And she's a
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 29: nanny as well.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 13: Yes, I never watched an annie.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 29: I used to have a palm. Loved it with the
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 29: little button, and then then I swore I never do
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 29: an iPhone until I went to the AT and T
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 29: store and they told me how all those things and
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 29: the key chain like from Hair's Teeter and Best Buy
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 29: and uh, you know, all the little cards it's gonna
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 29: be put on one app. I left there with four wow, Me,
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 29: my husband and two kids. So that was a quick
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 29: turn around. I love the T shirts. We went to
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 29: the game. Stix were Golden State clothed out against the
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 29: Celtics a few years ago against Steph Curry, and everybody
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 29: had one of them green T shirts. And now every
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 29: time I wear that, me and the kids, the husband,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 29: we all like you know, it brings back memory. So
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 29: I think it's great when they put t shirts at
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 29: an event. It kind of gives you sort of like
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 29: something in common with everybody that was there that day.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 29: I thought, I think that's.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: A goes to every game.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 29: And my last comment is on the Drake May thing.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 29: I really liked how you guys have a healthy, healthy
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 29: discussion about whether he's the guy or not. It's not
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 29: already set in the thtone like with you know, a
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 29: redskin fan and slowly fading and they keep talking about
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 29: how Jaden Dance is the guy. Finally we got the quarterback, right, Wow,
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 29: I got the quarterback right. Even New England doesn't know
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 29: they got the quarterback right. These are the Chicago You
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 29: have to give it another year see what they really
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 29: are before you start giving this guy a billion dollars.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 29: And one thing I tell I guarantee you this, I
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 29: don't think Drake May will ever be the highest paid
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 29: player or quarterback because that's not his style. He's gonna
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 29: be more Michael Jordan, take a little less for the
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 29: team and not like a Lebron James and hog it off.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 29: He's gonna take last. It's gonna be a lot, but
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 29: I think he's not going to break the bank.
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  Speaker 3: Just I don't know about that doing all right, thanks
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 3: for the call, appreciate it.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: I think it's all timing. Yeah, you guys said earlier.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: We'll finish up with Dan and Daytona.
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  Speaker 13: What's up, Dan, No, this is marking Connecticut.
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  Speaker 3: Marking Connecticut, says Dan and Daytona.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: T shirt revoked, mal right, Mark, what's up? Oh hi, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back.
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  Speaker 18: You've been on a hiatus, so welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: Paul.
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  Speaker 18: I know earlier in the show you were talking about
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 18: the three top picks on you know who's going to
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 18: make an impact? Mark my words put me on Eli Reardon.
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 18: I've been talking to Evan about this. I think he's
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 18: going to be a chess piece for Josh McDaniels. I
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 18: think he's going to have a big impact this shift.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go past.
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  Speaker 5: So all right, Thanks Dan.
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  Speaker 7: I'm excited to see Ota who he's out there, you know,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 7: and I like him too.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: I wrote his draft profile. I'm intrigued by the skills set.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 4: I just would what what is the definition of a
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 4: huge impact this year for you? For him.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it?
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  Speaker 3: He's Yeah, it's a big plays. So who was the
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 3: the Raiders that came out powers? Yeah, he's going to
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: be that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that would be my definition of a huge impact.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is the greatest tending season of the
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 6: definition of a huge impact is like seventy five catch ups.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see it. If he catches twenty, I'd be
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 4: really happy with his first year.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, twenty. That's why I said five touchdowns. I
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: felt like that was like, you know.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: I had friends, right, so more touchdowns than he had
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 4: in his entire college career. Yeah, yeah, yeah, give me
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: a huge impact reason unless they're all like one yard touchdowns.
• 2:00:27
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