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The One Where Lala CANNOT Relate · Untraditionally Lala

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Speaker 1: Hello, good morning. Do you know that song? I Hello, Hello, Hello,
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Speaker 1: good morning. Welcome you guys to give them La La podcast.
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Speaker 1: I have to say we are usually very loud in
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Speaker 1: this office, and before it was okay because like across
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Speaker 1: the hall, we had some like stylist, a stylist that
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Speaker 1: did Katie. We had like a weed company. We've got
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Speaker 1: the dudes from Entourage in the building, like chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos, chaos.
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Speaker 1: And now we have this sweet woman who's a lactation specialist.
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Speaker 1: She's gonna have mommies coming in here, which I love,
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Speaker 1: and she's got her cute little setup and I'm seeing
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Speaker 1: like the little scale that you put the baby on.
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Speaker 1: This is so cute.
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to learn all about lactation La.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's not easy, and also it's not something
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Speaker 1: that every baby is into. Not every baby wants to
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Speaker 1: be on the boob, and some momas don't have milk
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Speaker 1: come in. Anyway, we'll save that topic for another day.
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Speaker 1: But I may be a little bit quieter, although she
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Speaker 1: just moved in, so maybe I'll be buck wild until
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Speaker 1: I can't be because we got new mamas coming in.
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Speaker 1: I want to tell you guys what I learned on TikTok.
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Speaker 1: So I got on the TikTok. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: that's heard of it the TikTok, and I saw this
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Speaker 1: dog trainer who specializes in training bully breeds, which are
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Speaker 1: usually barrel chested, you know, like the broad chest you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about pimp pull bulldog. So he was saying,
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Speaker 1: and I want this to like literally sink into your
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Speaker 1: guys's brains, for anyone who has a dog, especially a
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Speaker 1: barrel chested dog, needs to know this. So he was
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Speaker 1: saying that after you take your dog on a walk
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Speaker 1: when you get home, you usually immediately put water in
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Speaker 1: front of them because they're panting, and that's just like
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Speaker 1: your go to like they need water. He says, you
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Speaker 1: should wait at least thirty minutes before giving your dog
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Speaker 1: water because they're panting is their way of cooling off,
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Speaker 1: and their tummy is also filling with air in that time.
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Speaker 1: So if you give them water, not only are they
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Speaker 1: like panting trying to cool down, but they're taking in
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Speaker 1: water which then causes the stomach to flip and your
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Speaker 1: dog instantly dies.
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Speaker 2: So and don't you your mom has we have two pibbles.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I told Easton, I'm like, when you take
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Speaker 1: them to the park and you know their pablo is
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Speaker 1: like he's thick. So he comes back panting and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you can't give him water for thirty minutes, for at
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Speaker 1: least thirty minutes, just until they've calmed down.
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Speaker 2: See, I told you you'll learn so much on TikTok.
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Speaker 2: I promise you're gonna love it. I've learned so much
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Speaker 2: on the TikTok Uh, the TikTok.
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Speaker 1: The TikTok. I also so I did, like after I
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Speaker 1: watched the documentary The Blank Scandal, the he whose name
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Speaker 1: we shall not mention Scandal on Hulu, I was like,
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Speaker 1: I I need to turn my DMS back on. It
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Speaker 1: was a lot. I was getting like thousands a day.
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Speaker 1: I decided to turn them back off. If you have
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Speaker 1: a story to tell, you know who to contact. And
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Speaker 1: I want to leave it at that. I talk about
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Speaker 1: that documentary on Sina's podcasts that aired. I want to
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Speaker 1: say on Friday, so head there she had. We had
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Speaker 1: a really good podcast to that day with her lawyer Nima.
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Speaker 1: He was like very smart. Not that I'm shocked. I
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Speaker 1: mean he went to law school, but just the amount
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Speaker 1: of years that he spent in so many different areas.
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Speaker 1: It was like, Wow, you are someone who, like I
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Speaker 1: would love to pick your brain just to be informed.
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Speaker 2: It's just the ease of it to you. You can tell
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Speaker 2: when someone say like he the things he talks about
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Speaker 2: with ease that I'm like, I don't even know what
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Speaker 2: that word means. I don't know any of this is
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Speaker 2: just you're like, oh, you're genius.
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Speaker 1: Well it is intense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's very smart, and he's very like.
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Speaker 1: Cool, oh, so cool, so cool, right, and he's like,
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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for X amount of years and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you put on that skin? Nima?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're looking like you're not old enough to
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Speaker 1: have done it for that long for real though. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So before we jump into uh vander Pump Rules Part
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Speaker 1: two reunion, I want to talk about what I've been
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Speaker 1: seeing online about Real Housewives of New Jersey Margaret and Melissa.
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Speaker 1: So I was seeing that people were saying that they
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Speaker 1: don't have a storyline, Like what is their storyline? Teresa's
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Speaker 1: always been uh, Melissa's storyline. And I'm gonna say this.
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Speaker 1: We filmed for a very long time and like, let's
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Speaker 1: just use my time filming. For example, I shared a
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Speaker 1: lot of things at the end of the day, like
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Speaker 1: you have no control over what the actual storyline is
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Speaker 1: going to be for us this season, before Scandalval happened,
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Speaker 1: it was very much the storyline of the season is
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Speaker 1: going to be Raquel and Tom Schwartz making out. That
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Speaker 1: was the storyline of the season. There's always individual ones
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Speaker 1: and then there's like the overall umbrella of what the
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Speaker 1: season is about. I feel like Margaret and Melissa, and
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Speaker 1: this is maybe an unpopular opinion, I love watching them, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think they're fantastic. I think Margaret is a little cutthroat,
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Speaker 1: but it's all true. That's why I hurt so much,
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Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, when someone speaks the exact truth,
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, that was mean, but.
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Speaker 3: It was true.
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Speaker 1: But it was true. And some people don't deliver the
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Speaker 1: insults the way maybe you do, like they're just better
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Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, there's some people where we could say
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Speaker 1: the exact same thing, but my delivery is gonna cut
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Speaker 1: ten times deeper. That's how I feel Margaret is. I
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Speaker 1: don't agree with the fact that they say that Margaret
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Speaker 1: and Melissa have not had storylines, because I absolutely think
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Speaker 1: they do and they have no control over what gets
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Speaker 1: edited out? Right? Do you agree with that?
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Speaker 2: Jeff Well, I am gonna say yes because I am
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Speaker 2: just going to I haven't watched it.
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Speaker 1: You haven't watched it at all ever in your life? No?
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Speaker 2: No, I've watched you're talking about Real Housewives of Jersey
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Speaker 2: right right? Yes, No, I just haven't watched it this
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Speaker 2: season or last season. Oh, that's fine because I started
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Speaker 2: watching Miami and then.
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Speaker 1: The drama is overall the same. Okay, it's Teresa and
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Speaker 1: her new man are having issues with Joey, Andrga and Melissa. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 1: they've kind of always had issue since season three when
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Speaker 1: they came on. There were issues that they just couldn't
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Speaker 1: get over. And then we go through like this period
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Speaker 1: of time where they're kind of getting along but certain
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Speaker 1: like they can't shake certain things, and now we're back.
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Speaker 1: I just watched the reunion. It was so good, was it? Yes?
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Speaker 2: And I'm see I would just watch the reunion, But
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Speaker 2: do I have to? I should probably watch the whole season.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you need to watch the whole season, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think you jump straight into the reunion the results.
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Speaker 1: Do that. That's what I would do, because I had
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Speaker 1: a tough time watching it this, like the entire season,
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Speaker 1: I just felt there were certain things that I didn't
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Speaker 1: really care about. It was like, Okay, got it, I
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Speaker 1: don't need to see an entire three minute scene about this, right,
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Speaker 1: But I'm still a diehard. Right. It was so amazing
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Speaker 1: to watch the Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion and
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Speaker 1: be stimulated by it, because since scanned of all, I
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Speaker 1: have not been stimulated by reality TV. I've had to
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Speaker 1: go back to like og episodes of Real Housewives to
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Speaker 1: like really feel get.
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Speaker 2: The buzz, get the butt right, I feel the same way.
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Speaker 2: I am a Kardashian lover through and through. And the
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Speaker 2: fact that I did not even know that their new
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Speaker 2: season was premiering. I had no idea, and.
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Speaker 1: Now, well, I don't think many people did. And I
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Speaker 1: heard I heard they are not happy about it. I think, yeah,
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Speaker 1: someone told me that, Oh, Katie told me that Chloe
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Speaker 1: had tweeted something about the new season, and maybe every
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Speaker 1: tenth comment was like yay, I can't wait, but everyone
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Speaker 1: was like, no girl, scannibals, no girl, VPRs tonight, No
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Speaker 1: Girl Not Happening VPR.
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Speaker 2: That is wild and the fact that I have not
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Speaker 2: yet watched it, and just I feel the same way.
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Speaker 2: It's like I feel like a lot of people feel
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Speaker 2: the same way. We've got Vanderpum.
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Speaker 1: I may watch Kardashians for like fall asleep time. That'd
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Speaker 1: be a good yeah, because I do like their voices.
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Speaker 1: I like that they keep in like the hustling and
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Speaker 1: bustling of the little trees in Calabasis, the peaceful. I
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Speaker 1: like the sound of the giant front door opening and closing,
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Speaker 1: wafting the perfect amount of air as they shake a salad.
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing a shaken salad on there in a while.
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Speaker 1: And there's no yelling really ever, Yes, there is not
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Speaker 1: really ever cackling like laughs. It's very just it's very odd.
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Speaker 1: I can't even so.
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Speaker 2: You could do Courtneys.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that.
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Speaker 2: I bet you could if you practice. Just listen to
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Speaker 2: a couple of lines Lole. I've said it on here before.
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Speaker 2: Lass you should be on SNL because she.
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Speaker 1: Does it with Ray Ray. I'm gonna say it.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, you do a great Rachel, a
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Speaker 2: great Rachel like Raquel yes, yeah, of like the movements
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Speaker 2: you do with like when you're saying it, the same tone,
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Speaker 2: same movements.
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Speaker 1: Because you just have to move as if you were
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Speaker 1: shaped like a box. Oh no, I said it. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: I don't even care. Last do We episode part two?
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Speaker 1: My dear friend who's now like family, sobbing over how
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Speaker 1: Rachel or Raquel could do this to her, and she's like,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I should have ever written her a note.
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Speaker 1: It's like, you're crazy. It's scary. I have so many thoughts.
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Speaker 1: I know we need to hear all of your can
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Speaker 1: talk about, so we'll dive into that, okay, But I
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Speaker 1: also want to address Lisa Rinna, the love of my life.
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Speaker 1: I adore her unpopular opinion. If you don't like Lisa Rinna,
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Speaker 1: like I don't know that I can really fuck with you,
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Speaker 1: get out of here. Like last season, everyone's like she
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Speaker 1: I like her. I like when she freaks out. I
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Speaker 1: think she's human. I think that I when she says
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Speaker 1: like I own it, I own it. It's like very
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Speaker 1: true she does. And her mom died, her mom died,
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Speaker 1: her best friend, her everything, every memory of from the
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Speaker 1: time she was born, whatever memory she had when she
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Speaker 1: was like, the first one ever, three four years old,
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Speaker 1: is with her mom who is no longer on the planet,
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Speaker 1: and you can't open your heart just a little to
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Speaker 1: be like, you know what, I fucking feel for her
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Speaker 1: because I can't even imagine. No, you cannot. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: lost a dad, which I was very close to him,
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Speaker 1: and my world fell like I have never felt that way,
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Speaker 1: and God willing, I don't lose my mom for a
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Speaker 1: very long time and will not feel that way until
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Speaker 1: I lose my other parent. It is earth shattering. You
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Speaker 1: don't know how to deal with it. You're angry. Everything
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Speaker 1: that people say is triggering. You can't believe that the
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Speaker 1: world is still spinning after that happens to you, and
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Speaker 1: you're angry that you see people across you know, you're
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Speaker 1: sitting at lunch and you're like devastated, and you see
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Speaker 1: someone laughing. You're like, how the fuck could you be
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Speaker 1: laughing right now? My mom died. It's a really funky
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Speaker 1: grieving process. So I don't agree with the amount of shit.
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Speaker 1: Well I got the same amount of shit when my
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Speaker 1: dad died. Anyway. She did an interview and she was
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Speaker 1: talking about how reality TV used to be and how
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Speaker 1: it is now and just the response is so vile,
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Speaker 1: And I have to say this, I can't imagine that
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Speaker 1: anyone listening to this podcast, my people would ever act
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Speaker 1: the way some of these trolls do. If you have, like,
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Speaker 1: please stop. It is a TV show. We all signed
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Speaker 1: up for it. So for you to go to an
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Speaker 1: extent of sending someone a message who you watch on
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Speaker 1: TV that is so vile. It's like you, I hate
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Speaker 1: to break it to You are no better than we
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Speaker 1: are when you send a message like that. In fact,
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Speaker 1: you're even worse because you have nothing to do with this.
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Speaker 1: You have nothing to do with this, and the fact
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Speaker 1: that it's affecting you this deeply makes me a little
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Speaker 1: scared for you. It should.
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Speaker 2: It's very scary and sad.
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Speaker 1: Because the way other people live their lives, who I
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Speaker 1: have no fucking idea who they are, it does affect me,
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Speaker 1: so please be kind anyway. In this interview, she was
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Speaker 1: saying the response is different. She was getting death threats.
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Speaker 1: People were very mean to her. Didn't like it, especially
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Speaker 1: because she really didn't do anything. She was just going
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Speaker 1: with the motions of life. She says in the interview,
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Speaker 1: it's a show, it's a stupid show. Every headline Lisa
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Speaker 1: Rinna says, or uh vander Pomp says Real Housewives of
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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, it's stupid. Oh goodness, and it's like, guys,
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Speaker 1: I know we're all smarter than this. That she wasn't
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Speaker 1: calling the show stupid. She was saying, how it's just
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Speaker 1: a show, it's a fucking show. She could have said
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Speaker 1: it's a fucking show and would have gotten the point
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Speaker 1: of stupid across. Like in that sentence, fucking and stupid
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Speaker 1: go hand in hand. She's trying to show you that
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Speaker 1: it ain't that deep. She wasn't saying it was stupid.
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Speaker 1: I know that she's very grateful, I'm sure for the
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Speaker 1: opportunities that were brought to her. She's killing the fashion game. Yes,
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Speaker 1: she's all over the place, people making fun of her hair.
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Speaker 1: I think it was Milan Fashion Week. I'm like, all
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Speaker 1: are Bravo like cut. We got to get with the
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Speaker 1: fact that, like fashion may not make sense to you,
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Speaker 1: but that like seventies wig that they put on her
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Speaker 1: was so fabulous, Like would it be fabulous if I
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Speaker 1: saw her like dining at Red Robin. No, I'd be like,
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Speaker 1: this is a little weird. But the bitches in fucking Milan,
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Speaker 1: I know, being fabulous in head to toe designer goods,
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Speaker 1: and I thought it was absolutely amazing. So I know
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Speaker 1: that none of my people are dragging things that don't
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Speaker 1: make sense to them because I think you just have
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Speaker 1: an appreciation for it. I appreciate Lisa Rina, I really do.
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Speaker 2: Oh I think that is I've seen this.
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Speaker 1: Let me see what she got dragged. How freaking fabulous
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Speaker 1: that screams to me. That's screams it was fas fashion Week,
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Speaker 1: Sorry you guys.
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Speaker 2: And the reason it screams fashion I see models walking
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Speaker 2: down the runway with the most like unique looks. Ever,
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Speaker 2: that's just another unique.
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Speaker 1: It was so unique head to toe Vivian Westwood, I
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Speaker 1: mean fashion and put it all me. Don't you want
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Speaker 1: to say it? I was on me a fashion living
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Speaker 1: for it. So good. All right, let's jump into it.
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Speaker 1: Let's jump right into it. So it starts off with
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Speaker 1: basically where it left off for the first part of
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Speaker 1: the reunion, where I'm telling Lisa she's got to stop.
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Speaker 1: It was strange that like she kept telling me, like la, La,
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Speaker 1: stop it when this guy is over here calling me
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Speaker 1: a narcissist, which granted, it was like, okay, I'm calling
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Speaker 1: him one, like he's got a fight back. What did
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Speaker 1: I think he was going to roll over and die? No,
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Speaker 1: but there is a huge difference between narcissism and an ego.
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm not going to school you guys on
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Speaker 1: this because this isn't school. I'm just gonna say there's
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Speaker 1: a difference. If you don't know the difference, google it.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to leave it at that. I didn't hear
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Speaker 1: him say you pulled your IUD out the second you
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Speaker 1: found out Stacey was pregnant. When I watched that, my
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Speaker 1: heart fell into my stomach. And I won't even lie,
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Speaker 1: like I actually sobbed, Like I did a video and
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Speaker 1: posted it to Instagram, and after I sobbed, and my
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Speaker 1: mom was like, consider the source, look at him. Why
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Speaker 1: do you care? And I'm like, it's not about him.
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Speaker 1: It's about the love that I have for my child,
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Speaker 1: and it could be anybody who speaks about her. And
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Speaker 1: you're gonna send me into like I'm going to war rage.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, can you just clarify because I thought he
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Speaker 2: meant something different by that. I was even confused. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: what does that have to do.
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Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with anything anything, But when
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Speaker 1: people are pushed in the corner, they come out swinging.
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Speaker 1: That's what he was doing. Like Arianna says, he's trying
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Speaker 1: to throw anything at the wall and hoping that it'll stick.
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Speaker 1: And it takes a lot to offend me. So I
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Speaker 1: think he went for the lowest of low to get
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Speaker 1: a rise out of me. And I'm so grateful that
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Speaker 1: I did not hear him say that in the moment,
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Speaker 1: because that would have been a full on spiral and
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Speaker 1: then they would have definitely had security for real, get involved. Right,
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Speaker 1: I am not a violent person. Right, I'm afraid of
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Speaker 1: the court system. I want no part of it. But
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Speaker 1: I know that every mom can relate to when someone
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Speaker 1: talks about your child in any way anyway other than
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Speaker 1: your kid is amazing. Thank god you have them. You
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Speaker 1: will rip their eyes out and you won't even know
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Speaker 1: what hit you. You become animalistic, Yeah, I would.
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Speaker 2: Imagine, yes, yeah, yes, I just I guess I don't
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Speaker 2: understand even him saying it, Like I grew up with
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Speaker 2: a mom who planned her babies around when her sisters
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Speaker 2: were when her sister was having a baby, So I'm
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Speaker 2: just confused. I'm like, well, yeah, isn't that what if
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Speaker 2: you have the privilege and like you're lucky enough to
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Speaker 2: be able to do that with friends or sisters. I
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Speaker 2: want to do that with my fucking sister. That's what
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Speaker 2: I understand.
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Speaker 1: Well, it was he can't even conceptualize what family means
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Speaker 1: and what having a child means and the love you
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Speaker 1: have for a child. He can't even process that. And
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Speaker 1: that's okay because I know that he's a narcissist and
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Speaker 1: he was born that way, and there's nothing you can
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Speaker 1: do about it. Even when he has a child, if
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Speaker 1: and when, he will never understand it because this is
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Speaker 1: who he is. For me, I absolutely heard that Brittany
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Speaker 1: was trying that Stossy was then pregnant. I knew that.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the sequence, but Sheina was pregnant at
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Speaker 1: the time and lost her baby, which was devastating, and
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Speaker 1: then was you know, blessed with Summer Moon, who's so
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Speaker 1: magical and was supposed to be here. So I always
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Speaker 1: knew I want to give whatever child, boy, girl, whatever, friends,
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Speaker 1: and I want them to grow up the way I did.
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Speaker 1: And my mom planned pregnancies around her friends that were
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Speaker 1: having babies, so for me, it's like the fact that
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Speaker 1: you made that stand of all, like it was disgusting
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Speaker 1: and likea want to have a baby. It's like you're
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Speaker 1: so bottom of the barrel, like mold. You're the fucking
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Speaker 1: mold at the bottom of a fucking barrel. Yes, because
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Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 2: Just like what it just was almost like you're I
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Speaker 2: don't that doesn't deserve a response. So I'm very glad.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it deserves a response from you because it
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Speaker 2: was toward you, but it's almost like you are so
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Speaker 2: like not worth even a second more of my time.
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Speaker 1: I know. And my mom when I posted, she was like,
19:31
Speaker 1: I just don't want him if you guys get another
19:33
Speaker 1: season for him to know that that's a trigger for you.
19:36
Speaker 1: And I said, and I was in the heat of
19:39
Speaker 1: the moment, then I'm gonna have to start coming for
19:42
Speaker 1: his family and I'll have a fucking hay day. Trust me,
19:46
Speaker 1: I'll have a fucking hay day.
19:48
Speaker 2: Don't you worry, not the families, you guys.
19:51
Speaker 3: Against the family.
19:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck no, I was fiurious, figurbrious. I've calmed down.
20:01
Speaker 1: I've calmed down since then. Okay, so him constantly talking
20:05
Speaker 1: Santaval then wants to talk about me taking accountability. I
20:09
Speaker 1: don't know how many more times I can address, explain,
20:13
Speaker 1: take accountability. What's happening here? And I see it as
20:16
Speaker 1: clear as day. He wants me to be married to
20:19
Speaker 1: my past because it's all he has against me. His
20:22
Speaker 1: past and present are very much together in alignment, still existing. Now.
20:28
Speaker 1: If there was a moment where it was like, la,
20:30
Speaker 1: La has been dating someone who's legally married, and they said,
20:34
Speaker 1: but he said he was separated, and I'm in the
20:36
Speaker 1: same fucking situation, then we can bring up my past
20:39
Speaker 1: because the past is very much in the present right now,
20:44
Speaker 1: right totally understand he wants everyone to be married to
20:48
Speaker 1: their past. But the thing is is we had that
20:51
Speaker 1: shit annulled the long time ago, Like this marriage ain't
20:53
Speaker 1: working by e get out, never knew ya, thanks for
20:58
Speaker 1: the shitty memories grown from it. So his the incessant
21:04
Speaker 1: need to keep bringing up all of that. James sleeping
21:09
Speaker 1: with Kristen, It's like, you gotta come off it. We
21:12
Speaker 1: live in today, right, yes, And it was like.
21:17
Speaker 2: What are you It had nothing to do with the president,
21:20
Speaker 2: And I don't know which one of you said it,
21:21
Speaker 2: but you're like, that's I think it was Arihanish, Like,
21:23
Speaker 2: that's not what we're talking about. Like it was so
21:25
Speaker 2: infuriating to watch, and like you said, that's exactly what
21:28
Speaker 2: it is. He's bringing up things because that's all he
21:30
Speaker 2: has to cling on too, and not even not even
21:34
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a whole other thing. But like
21:36
Speaker 2: you were also drinking then, and you're sobern out. There's
21:39
Speaker 2: just so many differences and it doesn't even compare. We're
21:42
Speaker 2: not living in the same world. We're not living in
21:44
Speaker 2: the same world as Sandoval, and I don't even think
21:46
Speaker 2: he's living in that world in the past.
21:48
Speaker 1: But it's all he has, it's all he has to
21:50
Speaker 1: get the heat off of him. Yes, but I don't
21:53
Speaker 1: know how many more times we can all answer for
21:56
Speaker 1: things that we did when we were in our twenties. Yeah,
21:58
Speaker 1: it's exhausting. And like I told him season nine, I'm
22:02
Speaker 1: getting off the ride with you. I will not get
22:04
Speaker 1: back on it with you. What's crazy is tonight's episode.
22:09
Speaker 1: They did not send us no stop I swear.
22:12
Speaker 3: Wait why oh?
22:13
Speaker 2: Because the reveal.
22:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you watched last week, which I know
22:17
Speaker 1: we all did. When it shows the preview for tonight,
22:21
Speaker 1: it says wait until the last five minutes and it's like,
22:26
Speaker 1: what happened in the last five minutes of this episode
22:29
Speaker 1: that is like so giant that our executive producer would say,
22:37
Speaker 1: don't don't make a decision going forward with this show
22:43
Speaker 1: until you see this.
22:46
Speaker 2: No, I'm so excited, and you guys, I've been behind
22:48
Speaker 2: the scenes begging lalla. I'm like, I know, come on,
22:51
Speaker 2: you have to know, you have to have an idea.
22:53
Speaker 1: Please tell me.
22:53
Speaker 2: I won't tell anyone. She's no, I mean you have
22:55
Speaker 2: no idea, or at least that's what you're telling me
22:57
Speaker 2: and convincing.
22:58
Speaker 1: Me of it. No, they've kept this on the line.
23:01
Speaker 1: I do hope.
23:03
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Look, it's been explosive, it's been dramatic,
23:05
Speaker 2: it's broken all the records. It's amazing. But now it's like, uh, oh,
23:09
Speaker 2: did they play it up too much? And it's gonna
23:11
Speaker 2: be like, oh, come on, Like, I hope not too.
23:14
Speaker 2: That's the one thing. I'm like, you guys are really
23:16
Speaker 2: playing this up. So let's just hope it or not
23:20
Speaker 2: even hope. I don't even know the word, because what
23:22
Speaker 2: if it's like bad? And then I'm like, oh, I
23:24
Speaker 2: wish we didn't learn that.
23:25
Speaker 1: I don't know.
23:26
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see I guess we'll see together tonight.
23:28
Speaker 1: We will. And I would not be shocked if they
23:32
Speaker 1: only had certain people in on the editing process of
23:36
Speaker 1: the final.
23:38
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't either, after the league of the trailer
23:41
Speaker 2: that's got to be on lock now the editing room.
23:44
Speaker 1: That's not confirmed, but I'm saying I would not be shocked,
23:47
Speaker 1: especially seeing as they won't even send us the reunion beforehand,
23:52
Speaker 1: which they always do. The show airs on a Wednesday,
23:55
Speaker 1: and we usually get next week's episode on Friday.
23:59
Speaker 2: Do you think you're going to get it the day before,
24:02
Speaker 2: you'll get it a little early, you know? Or do
24:04
Speaker 2: you think you won't get it at all?
24:05
Speaker 1: I don't. I've been told we're not getting it at all,
24:07
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna have to that we're watching tonight, so
24:09
Speaker 1: we're recording this podcast obviously early, but I haven't no.
24:13
Speaker 2: And can you announce what is what you're going to
24:15
Speaker 2: be doing tonight?
24:16
Speaker 1: Tonight? Oh guys, tonight I will be doing a watch
24:22
Speaker 1: party whoo whooo. But I won't be able to stay
24:26
Speaker 1: for the actual episode because I am going to do
24:29
Speaker 1: hold on. Easton's calling me, okay, Hi T T. Tt.
24:34
Speaker 1: He's going to be joining me on the podcast very
24:36
Speaker 1: as soon as a little Colday what I was going
24:42
Speaker 1: to say? What were we just talking about? Oh? I'm
24:44
Speaker 1: doing Watch What Happens Live Tonight with Tamra Judge. I
24:47
Speaker 1: cannot wait. She is back on Real Housewives of OC.
24:52
Speaker 1: It's the happiest, happiest time of year. OC is back
24:56
Speaker 1: to feeling like OC. I never gave up on. I
25:00
Speaker 1: watched even when Tamra and Vicki were not a part
25:03
Speaker 1: of it. And Vicky's going to be coming back. I
25:06
Speaker 1: don't know when in the season, but I do know
25:08
Speaker 1: she filmed and Tamra is like back and she's the
25:12
Speaker 1: most incredible housewife right. I adore her and obviously the
25:18
Speaker 1: star even when she wasn't on OCI. It was like,
25:20
Speaker 1: she's still the star and that's my up and I
25:24
Speaker 1: don't care what anyone else is love.
25:27
Speaker 2: I love Tamra. But also I'm just kind of like
25:30
Speaker 2: putting this all together. So do you know what this means?
25:32
Speaker 1: Possibly?
25:33
Speaker 2: So everyone listening to this now. Laala most likely will
25:37
Speaker 2: be in the green room at Watch What Happens Live tonight,
25:41
Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live? Yeah, watching the episode for the
25:44
Speaker 2: first time, so when you see her and watch what
25:47
Speaker 2: happens live, these will be like raw new emotions.
25:51
Speaker 1: No, for real, I'm so nervous and excited for you.
25:55
Speaker 1: I'm kind of both as well, because I believe, if
26:00
Speaker 1: I remember correctly that when Raquel came out, we were
26:05
Speaker 1: and I've already said this, I'm gonna say it again,
26:07
Speaker 1: we're like vicious dogs like she was. I don't know
26:12
Speaker 1: if she's got the biggest balls in the world, and
26:15
Speaker 1: again I think balls are very weak, or if she's
26:19
Speaker 1: just scary. My mom thinks she's clueless. I agree. After
26:24
Speaker 1: watching last week's episode Part two reunion, the way, even
26:30
Speaker 1: the way that Sena broke down, and I mean everybody
26:33
Speaker 1: was crying, right Mariana was crying, I was like, my
26:37
Speaker 1: friend has been through so much. And when Sheena says,
26:40
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't able to be present for my daughter,
26:44
Speaker 1: that for me was like gut wrenching because I know
26:47
Speaker 1: that feeling. I remember leaving my situation, having to deal
26:51
Speaker 1: with the custody and legalities of it all, and it
26:56
Speaker 1: was like, how can I like barely even function with
27:00
Speaker 1: my kid? And over time, you know, she not only
27:02
Speaker 1: had to deal with it for two months. I'm almost
27:05
Speaker 1: two years in, still still dealing with it, but I
27:08
Speaker 1: feel like I've become numb and it's like my every day.
27:10
Speaker 1: I think once it's over, it's gonna be like, wow,
27:14
Speaker 1: this feels like I really was just like numb and dealing.
27:20
Speaker 1: It's gonna feel pretty euphoric, right, Yeah, when there's resolution
27:24
Speaker 1: the way that I think they're there's going to be
27:28
Speaker 1: the way that I know there's going to be. And
27:30
Speaker 1: for her for Raquel to sit in her trailer and
27:33
Speaker 1: not one tier. Even on the preview for tonight's episode,
27:37
Speaker 1: Arianna sobbing Santaval pretending to cry, and I wouldn't sob
27:44
Speaker 1: over that. It was like, come on, well, no, we know.
27:47
Speaker 1: I think you need more of the Bernie drops, Babe,
27:49
Speaker 1: more Bernie drops. Yeah, real tears, You're insane. And she's
27:55
Speaker 1: just sitting there like this looking at them.
27:58
Speaker 3: Well, well there's something at them there, guys, something so
28:03
Speaker 3: not even fascinating, just like dark And I don't know
28:07
Speaker 3: the word.
28:08
Speaker 2: About those were real tears, or at least I think
28:11
Speaker 2: they were over the pageants.
28:14
Speaker 1: Yes, pull from the back.
28:15
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like you can That's why I'm like,
28:18
Speaker 2: even if I think sociopaths, don't they mimic others' emotion.
28:24
Speaker 2: So to me, that's why I'm like, she is sociopaths,
28:26
Speaker 2: because I would assume she's sitting there and she goes, Okay,
28:29
Speaker 2: I gotta cry, I gotta cry. The camera's on me,
28:32
Speaker 2: and then she could cry, but that's not even happening.
28:34
Speaker 1: I think we would need to dig deep into whoever
28:37
Speaker 1: did the psych evaluations on the cult members of Charles Manson.
28:43
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay.
28:46
Speaker 1: And then we would know what really was going on
28:49
Speaker 1: with Raquel, because I watched a video last night of
28:52
Speaker 1: a girl basically saying I just figured out the comparison
28:57
Speaker 1: Tom sand of All is Charles Manson and Raquel is
29:01
Speaker 1: one of his cult followers. She's the type that would
29:03
Speaker 1: go in do what Charles told her to do and
29:08
Speaker 1: or Charlie and come out and be like, we should
29:12
Speaker 1: get breakfast burritos. Ah, yes, I would love a hot
29:16
Speaker 1: cup of tea.
29:18
Speaker 2: Like is that like yeah, it's like disassociation or there's
29:21
Speaker 2: like no what it is, I don't know, but it's yes.
29:24
Speaker 2: I felt the same way watching Sheena break down. I'm
29:27
Speaker 2: sitting there crying and I'm like, I know Sina threw Lalla,
29:30
Speaker 2: what is going on? Raquel shot a fucking tear because
29:33
Speaker 2: we've seen you cry. I know people who cannot cry.
29:37
Speaker 2: We've seen her cry over the pageants.
29:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cameron DRez in the Holiday could not cry until
29:43
Speaker 1: she fell in love, Oh, until she fell in love.
29:47
Speaker 1: So now I'm thinking I don't think Raquel was crying
29:50
Speaker 1: out of guilt. I think she was literally upset about
29:53
Speaker 1: the pageants. And if you look back, going back to
29:55
Speaker 1: Charles Manson and his colt, he really preyed on and women,
30:01
Speaker 1: and I believe there were some men who were lost
30:05
Speaker 1: and he gave them a safe space and they hung
30:08
Speaker 1: on every word because of his because they didn't know
30:12
Speaker 1: any different. For the first time, like she said, I
30:15
Speaker 1: finally felt heard and seen. So I'm thinking that that's
30:19
Speaker 1: kind of the equivalent. Again, did not come from me.
30:23
Speaker 1: I'm just repeating what someone else said. I will not
30:27
Speaker 1: say who that is because she ain't gonna get a
30:29
Speaker 1: cease and desist or like Tamer would say, assistant desist.
30:33
Speaker 1: All right, none of us want to see those and
30:36
Speaker 1: if you're trying to send them and send them to Daryl.
30:39
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I'm backtracking on how I was like,
30:43
Speaker 1: I think she's just a broken person.
30:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I felt that way. But now we're
30:47
Speaker 2: learning more. I do want and maybe this is on
30:50
Speaker 2: your list, but I do want to know the feeling
30:52
Speaker 2: because you cried when Shina got that letter, and I
30:55
Speaker 2: want to know like all of that, like what was
30:58
Speaker 2: behind that because obviously it was emotion moment.
31:01
Speaker 1: Well, and I understood what Ariana. You know, Ariana was heated, right,
31:05
Speaker 1: she was, but she wasn't in it. She's not the
31:07
Speaker 1: one that has to walk into course, not the one
31:08
Speaker 1: that's got to call witnesses, deal with the lawyer every day,
31:11
Speaker 1: watch what she says. So when she said I wish
31:14
Speaker 1: she didn't. We don't want her anywhere near us, and
31:17
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, this isn't an US thing. This
31:19
Speaker 1: is a restraining order against Sena and should this go through,
31:24
Speaker 1: this will be a black mark forever and should she
31:27
Speaker 1: ever violate it, she could face jail time. Now she
31:31
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. But at the end of the day,
31:33
Speaker 1: like I said, the core system is a bitch, and
31:36
Speaker 1: I was happy that Raquel dropped it because I knew
31:39
Speaker 1: that Sina could not eat, she couldn't sleep whenever I
31:42
Speaker 1: saw her. She was vacant because I just knew that
31:46
Speaker 1: this was on the forefront of her mind. I knew
31:50
Speaker 1: that Summer had you know, started hyperventilating because she called
31:54
Speaker 1: Shena called me very upset. She was like, I accidentally
31:58
Speaker 1: had a breakdown in front of Summer and she started hyperventilating.
32:02
Speaker 1: And I was like, Raquel, you stupid fucking bitch to
32:07
Speaker 1: cause to cause this to someone who who has done
32:11
Speaker 1: nothing but defend you. Go to bat for you giving
32:14
Speaker 1: you a home. Brock's family was coming into town. They
32:18
Speaker 1: were gonna stay at their old apartment, and Raquel left
32:21
Speaker 1: it dirty, no toilet paper. You're a fucking, filthy, disgusting mess,
32:25
Speaker 1: you know, raised in a barn, Like what the fuck?
32:30
Speaker 1: Like Shina took care of that girl for her to
32:33
Speaker 1: do that to her and take time, Like I told Shena,
32:37
Speaker 1: you can fuck with us all day long. The second
32:40
Speaker 1: you do something that doesn't allow me to fully be
32:43
Speaker 1: present with my daughter, it's unforgivable.
32:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then to go like it was nothing after
32:48
Speaker 2: Sheen has gone through all of this pain, and then
32:51
Speaker 2: to go, I regret it. Oh, this is like however
32:56
Speaker 2: long of Oh just just a throw away like, yeah,
32:59
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done that. I'm gonna drop it. Great,
33:01
Speaker 2: good decision. But Shina just went through whatever days or
33:05
Speaker 2: weeks of this like pain. Yeah that you caused, Willy nilly.
33:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, just oh.
33:12
Speaker 2: No, it was that was heartbreaking to watch and yeah yeah,
33:15
Speaker 2: and then obviously you felt for her because you is
33:18
Speaker 2: that the you said you told me? I think was
33:20
Speaker 2: that the one and only time you cried during the
33:23
Speaker 2: whole reunion?
33:23
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, the only time I cried was when I
33:28
Speaker 1: was talking the scene where Lisa tells me like the
33:32
Speaker 1: angry side, and it's like, don't call me angry, don't
33:36
Speaker 1: call me angry. I'm not angry. I'm tough. Yeah, and
33:40
Speaker 1: I use my words.
33:41
Speaker 2: Well, I don't like that. I mean nobody. It's like
33:44
Speaker 2: the woman like, oh, she's an angry woman scorned.
33:47
Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no, well, us chick's got to deal
33:50
Speaker 1: with that every single day. Yeah, we've talked about this
33:54
Speaker 1: even in the core system. The mom is volatile. She
33:57
Speaker 1: must be on her period. She's bitter, she's scorned, she's
34:00
Speaker 1: mad that she got cheated on. She's mad because she
34:02
Speaker 1: doesn't get to live the lifestyle anymore. There are women
34:05
Speaker 1: where it's like okay, but they're few and far between.
34:07
Speaker 1: A woman doesn't step into a courtroom and is willing
34:10
Speaker 1: to spend her entire life savings to protect her child
34:13
Speaker 1: because she got cheated on. Right, it's not how this works.
34:16
Speaker 1: We're not angry, bitter or scorned. We are aware, we're concerned.
34:21
Speaker 1: We're tough, we're strong, we're vocal. Learn how to fucking
34:25
Speaker 1: speak to me. If you want to label me, you
34:27
Speaker 1: better label me correctly. All right, all of us, all
34:32
Speaker 1: of us chicks, don't fucking label us unless you want
34:35
Speaker 1: to label us correctly. You want to call me a bitch,
34:37
Speaker 1: you better put bad in front of that, because yes,
34:39
Speaker 1: I'm a bad bitch. I'm that bitch. It's no secret
34:46
Speaker 1: that I don't dig pageants. I don't. I know. I
34:50
Speaker 1: have people around me who are in pageants. This is
34:52
Speaker 1: not a direct insult to them, because I have a lot,
34:55
Speaker 1: not a lot, but I have friends who are in pageants.
34:58
Speaker 1: I have friends who have been strippers or there still strippers.
35:00
Speaker 1: You know, get it how you live, baby, and they're strippers.
35:03
Speaker 1: They fucking have each other's backs.
35:05
Speaker 2: Hmmm love that?
35:06
Speaker 1: Yeah? Fucking bright or die? Yeah, the pageants I do
35:10
Speaker 1: have a couple people in my circle who were pageant
35:14
Speaker 1: girls who are beautiful souls right as beautiful on the
35:18
Speaker 1: inside as they are on the outside. When it comes
35:20
Speaker 1: to Raquel, you put her in a pageant, and for
35:24
Speaker 1: many years, the competition had to do with who's prettier,
35:28
Speaker 1: who looks better in a bathing suit, who looks better
35:30
Speaker 1: in a gown? And it's the most unhealthy competition you
35:35
Speaker 1: could possibly place your daughter in. I can't even believe
35:39
Speaker 1: they still exist. I think they're absolutely fucking mortifying. Yeah,
35:43
Speaker 1: I know, you know, like whatever happened to competition in
35:46
Speaker 1: like a soccer game, you know, or like a singing competition.
35:50
Speaker 1: I'm all about healthy competition between women jobs, dancing, singing.
35:57
Speaker 1: The fact that we have competitions based on beauty is
36:01
Speaker 1: absolutely repulsive. So you have to remember she's been in
36:04
Speaker 1: competition mode with women in an unhealthy way from the
36:08
Speaker 1: time she was yay hi, you know. And she claims
36:11
Speaker 1: it's because she wanted to put herself out there and
36:15
Speaker 1: be better at speaking, go into acting or something, join
36:20
Speaker 1: debate team, like it doesn't make any sense. And if
36:23
Speaker 1: you notice, you know, she's very into appearance. Like the
36:27
Speaker 1: night we were in Las Vegas, the Have Asou trip.
36:31
Speaker 1: She was so fucking wasted and comes in the next
36:35
Speaker 1: day with a full face of makeup on, and I
36:39
Speaker 1: was like, what is going on? That's why I go, Wow,
36:43
Speaker 1: you look so great, because I was like, last night
36:48
Speaker 1: you were like trying to like blow the fucking you
36:50
Speaker 1: were trying to blow the paras up with tinfoil in
36:53
Speaker 1: the microwave. And now you go to the first set
36:56
Speaker 1: of mean clashes on what the fuck not the.
36:58
Speaker 2: Fresh set of mean clashes. She should have been rolling
37:01
Speaker 2: in there looking like a troll, like any of us
37:02
Speaker 2: would the next morning.
37:04
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was all about appearance. Keep in mind. On
37:09
Speaker 1: the way to have a Sue, we pulled off to
37:12
Speaker 1: get food and she claims we were so mean to
37:15
Speaker 1: her at this diner that we stopped in at. I
37:17
Speaker 1: was like, you literally were vomiting in the bathroom the
37:21
Speaker 1: whole time we were asking you if you were okay.
37:24
Speaker 1: We ordered you food, We ordered you a soda to
37:27
Speaker 1: try and like sop up some of the alcohol, and
37:29
Speaker 1: then we put you in a booth behind us to
37:32
Speaker 1: go to We didn't exile you. You needed to lay down. Yeah,
37:36
Speaker 1: you're insane, and there's nothing worse than being so hungover
37:41
Speaker 1: in sick with full glam.
37:42
Speaker 2: On nothing that sounds like a nightmare. I would rip
37:46
Speaker 2: my face.
37:47
Speaker 1: Off one hundred percent. And I was like, now you
37:50
Speaker 1: look rougher than you would have if you didn't wear makeup,
37:52
Speaker 1: because you got the mass scara, you got one eyelash
37:54
Speaker 1: kind of fucking blowing in the breeze, Like what are
37:56
Speaker 1: we doing? I can't really, I could never relate to her,
38:02
Speaker 1: and I tried so freaking hard. I was like, Lava,
38:06
Speaker 1: you really connect with everyone. I'm not getting it. Can
38:08
Speaker 1: you please just like figure this out? And I sit
38:10
Speaker 1: there and have a battle with myself, like she fucking sucks,
38:14
Speaker 1: she's not relatable, And then it was like, no, you
38:17
Speaker 1: can do it. You can do it, And it was
38:20
Speaker 1: really an internal battle of mine for a really long time. Well,
38:23
Speaker 1: and I don't have to nice. And then when Andy
38:27
Speaker 1: asks her Andy's face while she's talking.
38:29
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that.
38:30
Speaker 2: And sometimes I'm like Andy, not the face, because sometimes
38:33
Speaker 2: he'll ask things on things. I love Andy, I'm obsessed
38:35
Speaker 2: with him, but sometimes he'll ask things on watch what
38:37
Speaker 2: Happens Live, And as a person's answering, he starts to
38:40
Speaker 2: give and that would make me fucking panic.
38:42
Speaker 1: No, I love it.
38:43
Speaker 2: If I'm answering a question and Andy's giving me that look,
38:45
Speaker 2: I would go, h, maybe I'm wrong. I don't sorry
38:48
Speaker 2: what am I saying? But I love it. But when
38:51
Speaker 2: he was doing it to Riquel, it was like, yes, Andy.
38:53
Speaker 1: With the looks well, if you watch the like uncensored Peacock, yes,
39:01
Speaker 1: Because they cut this out of the Bravo version, he
39:04
Speaker 1: says to her, did you was there a part of
39:07
Speaker 1: you that thought this was gonna work out? And she
39:08
Speaker 1: gets this big grin, and the Bravo version she goes,
39:12
Speaker 1: I was living in my own reality and they cut
39:14
Speaker 1: it at that. In the Peacock version, she goes, you know,
39:18
Speaker 1: my hope was that, like he would break up with
39:21
Speaker 1: Arianna and then we could start dating. And I'm like
39:26
Speaker 1: the lack of And everyone sits there and they're like,
39:30
Speaker 1: she's twenty eight, she's twenty eight. If she were twenty three, great,
39:36
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight. I can only go
39:40
Speaker 1: back to what I can relate to twenty eight years old.
39:42
Speaker 1: I had lost my dad, I had gotten sober, I
39:44
Speaker 1: had become a stepmother. There's no fucking excuse twenty eight.
39:48
Speaker 1: You're a grown ass woman.
39:49
Speaker 2: You know better when your frontal lobe is fully formed
39:52
Speaker 2: by twenty fow.
39:53
Speaker 1: Start thinking about consequences. Yeah, And to think that they
39:56
Speaker 1: were just gonna break up and then Riquel and Sandoval
39:59
Speaker 1: we're gonna start dating, and you didn't think that. Ariana
40:01
Speaker 1: would be like, why are you, like, you're my best
40:03
Speaker 1: friend and you're gonna date my ex boyfriend? Or were you? Like?
40:06
Speaker 1: I want I feel like I want to interview her.
40:09
Speaker 1: I need to see tonight's episode. I want to know
40:12
Speaker 1: what the one on one was like. Obviously, I'm like,
40:14
Speaker 1: I could do it. Andy Cohen is like the best
40:17
Speaker 1: of the best interviews. That's why he does Kardashians, he
40:20
Speaker 1: does all reality because he asks the hard questions. I
40:24
Speaker 1: really want to know what her game plan was, if
40:28
Speaker 1: she even thought about it, because maybe she didn't.
40:31
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's no world right in which because
40:35
Speaker 2: I'm just putting two and two together her being like
40:37
Speaker 2: we didn't think she really we.
40:39
Speaker 1: Thought they were.
40:40
Speaker 2: She was ignoring it, choosing to ignore. So in my mind,
40:44
Speaker 2: I'm like, did she really really think, like, well, she's
40:46
Speaker 2: choosing to ignore it, so she's yeah, care.
40:48
Speaker 1: Well she says that, uh so when she said it
40:51
Speaker 1: sounds like you're blaming her, and yeah, she doesn't even say, no,
40:54
Speaker 1: that's not what like I but I'm like an I
40:58
Speaker 1: like to think I'm a normal. She was like, yeah,
41:01
Speaker 1: at the time, that's like where my head was at.
41:04
Speaker 1: And for me, it's like, Okay, that's how you justified it.
41:06
Speaker 1: Like she doesn't want to know. If she wanted to know,
41:08
Speaker 1: she'd dig harder, she'd ask more questions. She wouldn't believe
41:11
Speaker 1: what he's telling her. You know, she kind of just
41:14
Speaker 1: believed what he was telling her a face value because
41:16
Speaker 1: she trusted you.
41:17
Speaker 3: Guys.
41:18
Speaker 1: That's what you do to both. If she didn't trust
41:21
Speaker 1: either of you, you wouldn't be her best friend and
41:23
Speaker 1: he would be your boyfriend. What the fuck are you
41:26
Speaker 1: talking about?
41:28
Speaker 2: Well, that's I she's it's survival or whatever it is
41:32
Speaker 2: where she's telling herself that I don't know what it
41:34
Speaker 2: is because I don't even claim to know the mind
41:36
Speaker 2: of someone like Raquel, and I can't comprehend it. But
41:39
Speaker 2: that's all I can think. She's telling herself these things
41:43
Speaker 2: so she doesn't break down. Hopefully, because if she really
41:46
Speaker 2: let herself face it, she'd maybe if she's got a
41:49
Speaker 2: soul in there break down and be like, what the
41:51
Speaker 2: fuck have I done?
41:52
Speaker 1: What did I do? I think we're well past that point.
41:55
Speaker 1: And if there have been tears shed behind the scenes,
41:58
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with how she affected Arianna
42:02
Speaker 1: and the rest of the friend group.
42:03
Speaker 2: It's more so, how do I look now? Mm hmm,
42:07
Speaker 2: Oh that's heartbreaking? Yeah, this, I mean it's wild.
42:11
Speaker 1: I think she will absolutely come back if there's another season,
42:15
Speaker 1: she will come back. The only way she wouldn't is
42:18
Speaker 1: if her family puts her in a fucking bunker and
42:21
Speaker 1: doesn't allow her to come out. I think that's the
42:24
Speaker 1: only way that she wouldn't return.
42:25
Speaker 2: I just don't see her returning to the to the
42:29
Speaker 2: reunion and then deciding not to come back. There's no
42:33
Speaker 2: worlds I would have seen her. I would have been like, oh,
42:36
Speaker 2: if I would have had to guess, she's definitely got
42:38
Speaker 2: not going to go to the reunion, but she'll be
42:39
Speaker 2: back for season eleven. She went to the reunion. I
42:42
Speaker 2: don't think there's any world in which she decides herself
42:45
Speaker 2: not to come back. I think she's like, let me
42:47
Speaker 2: redeem myself. Season eleven.
42:49
Speaker 1: Well, I've heard I've that communication has been happening. I
42:55
Speaker 1: don't know if it's between this side of things and
43:00
Speaker 1: her team direct, but I've heard that communication is open.
43:06
Speaker 1: It's alive and well and happening. But that doesn't mean much,
43:09
Speaker 1: you know, because until someone appears with a camera in
43:11
Speaker 1: front of them, doesn't really matter.
43:13
Speaker 2: I'm so excited for tonight.
43:14
Speaker 1: I can't even Tonight's I'm excited too. I'm actually nervous
43:17
Speaker 1: because usually if I get it a few days before,
43:20
Speaker 1: I can like start mentally preparing, and there's no That's
43:24
Speaker 1: why I'm kind of nervous for watch what Happens Live tonight,
43:27
Speaker 1: you are a little bit okay, because it's gonna be
43:30
Speaker 1: so fresh. I will have just seen it, and usually
43:33
Speaker 1: I watch and I kind of I go through the
43:35
Speaker 1: emotions of it and reliving it and kind of go
43:38
Speaker 1: through it foggy, and then I have to rewatch, and
43:40
Speaker 1: then I rewatch again to make my podcast notes, and
43:44
Speaker 1: then I watch again live. So I've with all the episodes.
43:48
Speaker 1: I watch them like four or five times before it
43:51
Speaker 1: actually by the time it actually airs. Yeah, and it's
43:55
Speaker 1: also fun to watch it five hundred times and know
43:58
Speaker 1: what's coming and then to watch with a group of
44:01
Speaker 1: your friends who haven't seen it and see their reactions. Yeah,
44:05
Speaker 1: because you wonder and is my is my jaw on
44:09
Speaker 1: the floor because I was there? Or is what they
44:14
Speaker 1: said just as bad as how I'm taking it? And
44:17
Speaker 1: so when you watch other people who are outsiders watch
44:19
Speaker 1: and they're like clutching their pearls and gasping, You're like,
44:23
Speaker 1: oh shit.
44:24
Speaker 2: Yes, because I think your reactions are probably less than
44:27
Speaker 2: a lot of us, a lot of us, because you
44:30
Speaker 2: were there or you heard about it, and you still
44:33
Speaker 2: react crazy. Now times that by ten, and that's how
44:35
Speaker 2: most of us are reacting.
44:37
Speaker 1: This is what I'm gonna say to you, guys.
44:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear it.
44:39
Speaker 1: There is a comment that Sandoval makes tonight that will
44:45
Speaker 1: show who this person is. And I think he's going
44:52
Speaker 1: to need security for a while.
44:54
Speaker 2: And you know this will air.
44:55
Speaker 1: I know it'll air, Okay, it's I know it will
44:59
Speaker 1: air because when Sheena and I went to the FYC
45:05
Speaker 1: event for which is for your consideration, it was the
45:09
Speaker 1: Emmy event for NBCU and they showed like I think
45:14
Speaker 1: six or nine minutes of the Final Reunion which is tonight, okay,
45:18
Speaker 1: and they were like, we saw the clip of Sandoval
45:21
Speaker 1: saying this, and they were like, I'm disgusted. It's so
45:28
Speaker 1: funny how someone can do what he was doing this
45:32
Speaker 1: entire time on the reunion, pretending to cry, doing that
45:35
Speaker 1: whole thing, and then he delivers a line like that,
45:38
Speaker 1: and you're like, Wow, whoever ends up with you, I'm
45:44
Speaker 1: so sad for them. Yeah, like, very sad for them,
45:49
Speaker 1: and so happy for my friend. Before we sign off.
45:51
Speaker 1: I also want to say this because I knew that
45:53
Speaker 1: this would be a headline somewhere. It wasn't really, but
45:57
Speaker 1: when I listened, I was like, oh, fuck last week's episode.
46:00
Speaker 1: I was talking about Arianna and her thriving and doing
46:04
Speaker 1: all of that, and saying that she became background noise
46:07
Speaker 1: to Sandoval, and that I know that most people didn't
46:10
Speaker 1: take it that way because I didn't see much about it.
46:12
Speaker 1: That was absolutely not an insult what I was saying,
46:17
Speaker 1: because I can relate to it. When you deal with
46:19
Speaker 1: someone like Sandoval, they are exhausting. You become background noise,
46:24
Speaker 1: you fade into the distance because you just cannot I mean,
46:29
Speaker 1: even Schwartzy is background noise against Sandoval because you just
46:34
Speaker 1: can't go up against someone like that. Because you're just tired.
46:38
Speaker 1: So that's where I was coming from. I texted Ariana
46:41
Speaker 1: after last week's episode and I said, I just want
46:44
Speaker 1: to tell you I fucking hate your ex. I'm so
46:48
Speaker 1: glad that you're out here being the star that you
46:51
Speaker 1: fucking always been because he stifled your fire. And I
46:53
Speaker 1: freaking stand by that I have been, even though Arianna
46:57
Speaker 1: and I have you know, gone from you know, cookie
47:00
Speaker 1: to do not so great Like, I really have so
47:04
Speaker 1: much love for her and the way that I've looked
47:06
Speaker 1: at her just her talent. I mean, she's a phenomenal dancer,
47:09
Speaker 1: that bod hit different, stunning face, she's intelligent, she has
47:13
Speaker 1: it all going for her. And it was so devastating
47:17
Speaker 1: to watch after coming out of my own situation because
47:19
Speaker 1: I started realizing what men are kind of like my
47:23
Speaker 1: ex and Santa all is one and I was just
47:25
Speaker 1: like God, I said, oh, watch what happens, Lie, You've
47:27
Speaker 1: gotta get arian out of there, And now we did,
47:29
Speaker 1: and she's thriving, living for it all right, my loves,
47:34
Speaker 1: I hope that you have a fantastic hump day. Make
47:37
Speaker 1: sure if you drink, you drink responsibly, don't drive. I
47:40
Speaker 1: love you so much enjoy tonight's episode and I will
47:44
Speaker 1: catch You. Make sure you watch Watch what Happens like
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Speaker 1: too love you. Catch you next week