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What They're NOT Telling You About the Epstein Files w/ Mel K · Man in America Podcast

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Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So the day that many of us have been waiting for is here. The Epstein documents have been released to the public. Now it's all over Twitter.
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It's all over mainstream media. Everyone's focused on it. They're digging up names. There's lots of memes going around. There's fake names on there.
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There's a Stephen Hawkings one going around about him with midgets that actually proved to be a meme. So be careful what you're looking at out there. But whenever I see these big dumps of information like this, or this information that we were waiting for that finally gets brought to the public, I have to ask myself, what are they hiding? What are we being distracted from? What's the bigger story?
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There's just so much more to it. Because when you see that, you know, MSNBC is talking about the Epstein list and Clinton's name appearing on it, it makes me wonder, okay, what's the story that's not being told to people? And so joining us today is my good friend Mel Kay, who understands information warfare extremely well. And she's very smart. And we're gonna be just diving into these Epstein files and trying to understand what the bigger picture is, it's not being shown.
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Because I can tell you, it's a lot more than just this little island that these politicians went to to diddle kids and they had some blackmail. This is just the tip of the iceberg of a massive criminal network. And we're gonna be diving into that today. So folks, please enjoy the show. Mel, it is so wonderful to have you on the show.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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Mel K: Oh, it's always my pleasure. I always look at you and I think, god, we've been on this journey together. I remember the first time we met about three maybe three and a half years ago, just kinda looking at each other like, wow. What are we what are we embarking on? And here we are, and I'm so grateful to be here.
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I love your show. You have an amazing, amazing audience, so thank you for having me.
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Seth Holehouse: Of course. It's it's it's a pleasure having you. And, actually, just this week, was on your show. So for folks that actually, what I'll do is for anybody who hasn't watched that interview, I'll make sure it gets into the link in the description for this interview. That way they can
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Mel K: Thank you.
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Seth Holehouse: Go both places. So of course, there's about a billion things happening in the world. But this week, everywhere you look, it's Epstein. It's Bill Clinton. It's Epstein.
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It's Trump and people try to tie him into that unsuccessfully, but still goes back to Epstein. And, of course, as you're very familiar with, when you see these big stories that suddenly CNN's covering, MSNBC is covering, Fox News is covering it. The first question I'm sure you're asking yourself, and I know I am is, okay, what aren't they covering? And what are the Right. What is this distracting from?
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And so I just want to throw that to you and just see how you're framing this drop of information about Epstein and what you think it really means. And also, what's the bigger picture that no one's not talking about?
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Mel K: Yeah. I mean, my I've been covering this. My audience knows. And, you know, I've even talked about it in many speeches as well, the Epstein case from the beginning. I actually my parents live in Palm Beach, and I had worked on the island through college and grad school.
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And everything that I've done, I've I've kind of I also interacted with him when I was still in New York City in 1995. So I've known about the Epstein case and covered it in 02/2008 and then again when it when it resurfaced. So for me, a lot of this information is not new, and and there's been a lot of rhetoric online that this is something to do with some kind of list, a list that I do not believe exists. I I I as I've said for years now, reading through all of the multiple, lawsuits, cases, case files from the earlier case in Florida to this the case, the recent cases and then the, untimely death of Epstein, you can gather all these names. These names are not new.
3:51
And when this broke in the beginning, there were people out there, Sean Atwood, Jason Burmiss, you know, Whitney Webb, lots of people that covered everything that is out now. Johnny Vedmore, there's there's none of this to me is new information. I understand that it's new information to other people, but that's because the media was playing cover. We all remember, the ABC news anchor saying, well, we had this three years ago. We had it all about Clinton.
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Everyone remembers that clip, Project Veritas, that broke that. So, I mean, I think the bigger picture here that people need to really start to pay attention to is a I I said yesterday in the spaces, and I got jumped on for it. I said, what what what is the timing of dropping this right now? We all knew that 2024 is being set up to be a very, chaotic, contentious kind of Joe Biden just put out this very ominous, ugly video, dividing us more and more. We have, like, the old Obama's back on the scene, you know, with his movie and all this stuff happening.
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There's a they have the civil war. We talked on my show about, you know, Hollywood's gonna be pumping out, a lot of pro global's level propaganda. They really want America to, I believe, go up in flames and be so violent to then call some kind of emergency in America that were that we're so systematically racist. We're so gun violence is so bad. We're so everything that's going on.
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So there's a lot of issues in my mind with the timing. And somebody said, well, this is just the way it works. And to think that the Southern District Of New York doesn't work directly with the Department of Justice many people think the Southern District Of New York has more power than the Department of Justice and and makes a lot of the calls. Plus watching all the cases go through the Southern District Of New York, these frivolous cases against Trump and how these judges are behaving in the Trump cases, how anyone can look at the timing of this release and not think, well, what what was the conversation on the back end of, well, let's drop the Epstein, case in the beginning of of twenty twenty four to, like, make it go off with a shot. The other thing that I think is is is part of this, people have to understand, and we've been I've been saying it a long time, is Epstein was running a giant multilevel blackmail ring.
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As bad as it is and we've heard about maybe a hundred victims. I would say there's probably a thousand victims, if not more. And I'm talking from young children all the way to, grown women, grown men. I mean, this was not what it seems. What it seems is that these were, teenage girls that were kind of awed by this man and the connections to Victoria's Secret and Wexner and all of that.
6:35
That is not what I believe went on here. There's a lot going back to even when I first became familiar with him and and his modeling agency and those friends in in 1995 in New York City, and the model apartments and all of that. This is a multi decade operation. And, most people at this point, I think, know that Maxwell's father was very involved in espionage and spying and for many places, including I know the Mossad's coming up, but people have to understand Epstein, in his travels, it appears that his the people that he was closest with were Ehud Barak, Prince Andrew, and Bill Clinton, and and then a lot of other people. So the question we should be asking is why and in the 02/2008 case, it came out that he was into he was he was a asset of the intelligence agencies.
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And and the question is also, which one? You know? CIA, FBI, all of them? Which countries? Five Eyes nations?
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Whatever. But the truth is that there is blackmail out there of world leaders, of celebrities, of other people, and those might have very well affected things that have happened in our country and the world in terms of different be it, you know, his huge investments in science and biotech and transhumanism and Ivy League, Poison Ivy League academia, all the way over to he he was involved in in in weapons and with Khashoggi and prince Andrew. He was involved in something when Mina, Arkansas, that whole operation moved to moved to Cincinnati, I believe, where Wexner is. He was involved in that. Like, this man had his hands in so many things, not to mention being hired at the most one of the most prestigious schools, private schools in New York City without a college degree to teach, where, I believe Bill Barr's father was the, chancellor.
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I don't know if there was a switchover, but there was a relationship there. Then and, you know, that was like his his claim to fame was that there that's where he met Ace Greenberg, went over to Bear Stearns. We know that Bear Stearns later imploded, and Epstein walked away, like, you know, with the fire behind him in that situation. So we're talking about decades of this situation going on. What we also know is that he had a CCTV in all of his homes, especially the New York home and and the island and the Palm Beach home.
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So the FBI raided all of those properties. I don't know. It was never said if they raided the New Mexico property, which is very concerning because he wanted to seed the planet with his, sperm. And and, you know, and he's super into transhumanism, really funding a lot of that. You know, the MIT Media Lab had an implosion.
9:21
People should look into his situation there. Obviously, he had relationships with big money managers at Chase, at Apollo, at, you know, all these places. So I think we should be asking, who has the evidence, and why haven't it why hasn't it been released or at least mentioned? And I think the even bigger thing is a lot of people need to really understand that Jeffrey Epstein credited himself with starting the Clinton Global Initiative and the Clinton Foundation. And we all we've done both of us shows on what happened in Haiti and all the questions left there, and the Haitian people have a lot of questions for the for the Clintons, not just about where a lot of children went to, but, you know, all the money that went into Haiti and what they built, like, six homes and a port.
10:07
So you know? And then all those islands around there. I think the most disturbing part of the entire Epstein case is that the Clintons have never been questioned, that anyone knows of, never been, interrogated on this. Never they've been, prince Andrew, same thing. And the real questions we, the people, and the people of all these nations should be asking is, what happened in our lives that his blackmail ring was responsible for?
10:33
Because you don't blackmail people just to hold something over them. You tend to blackmail people to make them do stuff. And and that's where I think the people right now should be pushing for, we want to know who is on the footage, who is on the because what happened in New York, we were in New York, and when they were raiding his house, the FBI and I believe that there was NYPD involved too. There was a blackout that night in New York City. People might not know this.
11:00
The same night that the FBI were there. So there was some kind of big, you know, I don't know, fiber optics, whatever they had to do. And they went in, and there was apparently, disks and hard drives and, and pictures of underage kids and stuff in his safe. They had to go some for some reason leave. They came back, and they say it was all gone.
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They they were on his island. We all have video and pictures of the FBI running around his island, and no evidence from there either has ever come out. And then there were the people from the Palm Beach, situation that took off, went to Russia, and nobody knows about that. So to me, the biggest question here is why is our intel agencies, whichever ones they are, not disclosing what they know about Epstein's blackmail ring that might have affected policy in this country that has harmed our nation and the world? Because that's the only reason he was running a blackmail ring.
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Seth Holehouse: And there's so many questions that come from that. I mean, to me, when I look at this, it's almost like we're looking at a crime scene, and say that there was a mass shooting and there's a hundred people dead. And everyone's focused on the fact that, like, someone's wallet was missing. And there's like, there's this massive other crime scene that no one's talking about yet. Everyone's focused on, well, someone stole a thousand dollars in cash.
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It's now been revealed, you know, who was involved with the theft of the cash, and they're missing this entire thing because, like, when I look at this, my there's there's a lot of places my mind goes to. One is, okay. How does this tie into satanic ritual abuse and adrenochrome harvesting and and, you know, you know, families breeding children and and this whole other aspect of the sex, you know, trade. You know, I interviewed Lee Dundas. I mean, you've probably had her on your show numerous times.
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And and one point that she made, she said that actually the the pandemic that the so much of the infrastructure of the pandemic was fueled by pedophilia and blackmail. And that's how they got all these politicians to go along with the lockdowns and all this. There's all there's that. But then you look at like, this is just such a tiny part. I'll pull up an article.
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This is Charlie Kirk shared this the past day or so. Again, this is Daily Mail Daily Mail that they're saying that there was a high end sex ring in Boston and DC areas, which was a honeypot scheme by Russia, China, and South Korea, even Israel to ensnare US Officials, Intelligence Experts believe. So it's almost like everyone's so focused on the island, and everyone's focused on, oh, is this now we have proof that this person's a pedophile. And it's so much deeper than that. Because when I think about, say, Bill Clinton, for instance, and his involvement on Epstein Island, his closest with him, the involvement of the Clinton Foundation, it to me, it makes me wonder, was he just another person using these exact same services to ensnare people for the Clinton Global Initiative?
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I mean, because what's also, I think, important in how we frame this is that we're not talking about, you say politicians or say different, you know, political parties or governments. What we're talking about, these are massive global criminal syndicates. That's what this is. It's not, okay, well, there's this one prince that was doing this. It's like, no, these are global criminals that are operating global criminal syndicates to ensnare and entrap, sorry, and blackmail.
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Like, this is how the this is how the deep state operates. This is why, like, when for instance, again, you know, the pandemic, why we saw so much coordination. Of course, I'm sure some people were bought off by bribes and promises of fame and, okay, we'll keep you in office. But I think so much of this is actually controlled through these networks. And everyone's focused again, just on this Epstein, which is I think is important.
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It's good that it's come to light. But my my guess is that Epstein Island was point 0001% of the actual global honeypot network. Yet that everyone just they they they're not looking at that. And I think that's the big thing that we're missing here.
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Mel K: Yeah. I think the island was so intriguing also for until recently, because people said to me you know, when I said that none of this is none of these names are new to me, and and they're not new to you and to people that have been following this. So there was a tremendous I mean, Whitney Webb's book, United States of Blackmail, I think that's the name of it. Like, she did great work on this. Burmist too.
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I mean, there's a lot of people. Sean Atwood, they were reading the transcripts of a lot of this stuff four, five years ago on their shows. A lot of those books are no longer available, but, you know, the island's very looks salacious. You know? It looks terrible.
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There was a list going around, a list I don't believe is real, of Hollywood Celebrities and other people. Now I I lived in Hollywood for twenty years. I know people that have really went to this island. Do I know what they did on the island? No.
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I don't. And if they went to the island, were they necessarily involved in satanic stuff or or any of this other stuff? I don't know that. Nobody does. But the the salacious part is is, I guess, the most intriguing.
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But I I Epstein's island is one of many islands. You know, Nygard just got found guilty. He had an island near there. There's a whole bunch of islands, but that island, you know, when you look at where the islands are, Epstein Island, Haiti, all those areas right there, that's coming all the way from China. Like, this isn't this is a whole world shipping ring that has been used for illicit trade of humans, of children, of guns.
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You've mentioned organs. So this is a way bigger. Like you're saying, it's a global syndicate of people that are all involved here. The couple things that I I think strike me other than the timing, and I I I I was on this space even with somebody that a lot of people follow was like, well, this is just the way it's not the the court doesn't decide. Like like, the Southern District in New York and that judge didn't coordinate with how do you know?
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What we've learned so much over time. What how do you know that they that it wasn't like, you know, people getting the other CIA and other people being like, drop this now? Because there there are two things here that are that are, I think, interesting questions. One is when, a source told me that I do trust that Ghislaine Maxwell could have made a deal. Okay?
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She could have made a deal, and she could have said, these are the names. These are that. And people should also know Ghislain Maxwell, not only was her father, Robert Maxwell, running a similar ring, which it looks like was passed on, but he also was a big newspaper, person also involved in intelligence. But her sisters and her whole family are involved in department of defense and big tech. I mean, this is a very powerful family.
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So when she went away, there was a lot of questions as to why didn't she make a deal. And some of the people in the background were saying because she did make a deal. The deal was that she would go in. They would put her in this this as cushy as a prison as you can get, think she's where Martha Stewart was too, a women's prison where, you know, it's it's not prison, you know, but that she would have an appeal, and that that appeal is running through the courts right now. And part of me, when I saw this drop, I said, you know what's gonna come out of this?
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She'll win her appeal. You know? But there was a thought that she didn't make a deal because it was like, go away for a few years. We'll put away the Epstein situation because it wasn't just it can't just be him that if this was CIA or whatever it was, he's one person in it. There's it's impossible that that he's not coordinating all over the world and with her, but now she's coming out as a victim.
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She's like, she made a statement again. This was a these these were people that, you know, took advantage of women for years and all of that, which is BS. Believe me. I know as many evil women as I know men, so and especially in that world. So that is a total fraud, and I know people that were victims that she was terrible.
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I mean, really awful too. But there was always the question of why is she not talking?
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Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey.
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Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices.
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So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930.
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Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000.
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Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car.
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But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you.
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Mel K: And I I believe that she did. I mean, I I mean, the only thing I can believe is that look and wait and see if if this leads to her case coming back into the forefront and her walking out of that jail, one thing. The other thing that people are talking about on the on the other side is, is this a because Hillary Clinton's been out there lately. You know, everyone knows Joe Biden isn't, you know, fit for office. Everyone's I mean, I I believe that they are setting up a Michelle, but everyone can believe what they want.
22:44
That's my own from what I've seen and and having many talks with Joel Gilbert and Jack Cashel and other people. But whatever the case may be, I don't think Biden will make it to the end of this. And, you know, so Hillary's been out there kind of proposing herself a little bit. And, this could also be an internal fact like, break in that world where the Obama team does not like the Clinton team. And it's like, okay.
23:09
Let's just get get this out of out of the way because Bill Clinton can no longer he'd made a whole video denying ever being to Epstein Island when we all knew he was there 27 times or whatever. And and believe me, the flight logs are only from a couple years. And also on top of that, you didn't fly to Epstein Island, folks. You you had to fly somewhere, and then most people took boats to Epstein Island. So, again, the flight logs are a very small piece of it.
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And plus, there's many interesting people on those flight logs. Not all of them are involved in pedophilia and child trafficking. He was a big he was in this EDGE Foundation, which is very weird, Brockman and these people. And a lot of this transhumanism stuff. He was funding a lot of people involved in the human genome project, in the brain initiative.
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I mean, this guy was had his fingers everywhere. He you can even connect him to Wuhan. So and Charles Lieber, you know, all this stuff. So it's really more a matter of who's protecting who here and why. And and does this go to our military industrial complex?
24:11
Does this go to a department of defense? Where is this who is protecting the evidence? And I think that's what the American people, and this goes all the way back, we've talked about it, to JFK. I believe that we've been in one big cover up after cover up after cover up. And it's the same people, the bureaucrats, the people that you don't know their names that are facilitating a lot of this.
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So I I think for the because I I kept saying last night on this this space sec thing, I kept saying, what is the end goal here for us? Does anybody believe that we're going to see justice, especially with the current justice department? Why would they drop this right now? And I I'd like your thoughts on this too because people are saying when I when people last night were saying, well, you know, this is just the way that, you know, there's a there's a process. And the process just happened to have the whole Epstein dump of of unredacted information on the first of twenty twenty four as we're going into this cycle of chaos.
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It doesn't it it's you have to really suspend disbelief to believe that this isn't orchestrated to some extent.
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Seth Holehouse: But I think the key word there is chaos. And I think that if you go back to leave the world behind, which, you know, it's so out in the open that, you know, Michelle and Barack Obama were incredibly involved in that. That movie actually helped me make sense of a lot of what's happening. Because I also I know that chaos is a key thing in brainwashing. Right?
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If you look at how they you go back to read the rape rape of the mind, for instance, or how, you know, Pavlov and his experiments, you know, one of the keys in creating this mass formation or brainwashing of society is chaos. Like, I remember back when, you know, we're going through all the vaccine stuff, and you they'd say masks work, and then you'd have Fauci's emails come out and say the masks don't work, and then the vaccines work, they don't work. I remember every time that the narrative emerged that kind of broke the previous narrative, everyone on the right was like, yes, the information is getting out there. But what in hindsight, looking at it, it's like, think it was all intentional. It was all intentional to to not give anybody something concrete to hold on to, to keep changing that narrative.
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And same thing, you know, once Israel started, is this whole war, you saw this massive splintering now. Yeah. But within, you know, what what was probably a more unified movement of conservatives is now completely splintered. And so if we look at the timing of this, especially as we come into 2024, I just think it's just fundamentally, it's chaos. And chaos, I think, goes goes straight into the the satanic agenda.
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Right? Is from, you know, from chaos comes their order. Right? So they create enough chaos so that even people and again, like, why is it that now it's like you'll see mainstream media talking about Bill Clinton and everything. I think part of that is even people that are on the left, they have to destroy some of their heroes.
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They have to break up some of their fundamental understandings of how the world works. So they're just left with not knowing what's going on. So I think that when things get even worse later in the year, everyone's more likely to just to just break and start attacking their neighbor. So I think that that's a big part of it is is this fomenting chaos.
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Mel K: Yep. Go ahead. No. I was just gonna say this is where your audience, my audience, we we share a lot, but we have some different people. I think people like I like I was saying to you before we came on, people have to really go inside and determine what they believe because we are under a significant amount.
27:39
I couldn't believe it last night. The person that was saying it was absurd to think that, the drop of the Epstein unredacted things at this time was was purposeful. Well, you know what? I've been looking enough into cognitive warfare, five g warfare. You know, you and I we did a whole show, me and you, on the the NATO documents about turning people's minds weapons and how far advanced they are.
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And this goes all the way into, like and and they don't hide it, especially the NATO document that I have on my on my website too, and people should look at that. But this cognitive warfare and then using social media what you're talking about is really important. You know, we both have talked to people of MKUltra and that know a lot about that, and you're bringing up Order Out of Chaos is Aleister Crowley. The amount of influence that Aleister Crowley, a true satanist, has had over all over not just governments and and people, but also over Hollywood and and the whole satanic movement. This you know, that is his thing, order out of chaos.
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And for me, the person that I I has influenced me the most is Hannah Arendt. And she said the perfect time for totalitarians to take over a nation is when the people believe everything and nothing at the same time, when they think everything is is possible, but nothing is true. And and that's where we are. And then what you're talking about too is this memory hole thing because the the information's coming so fast and then it gets hit by another story and another story. And they're all the whole intel media.
29:02
I think the whole media is fully controlled and in on this. And what's happening is people's, they're memory holding things, and you can't keep you can't keep so many things in your mind at one time. And we're being, like, shifted here and there. And I think the scariest part for all of us to really understand is that we are not each other's enemy. They want my my full belief here is what's happening and what is going to happen this year is that they want us to believe that our neighbors are our enemies, that we need to fight each other, that the whole thing coming across the border is totally normal, you know, that that, you know, sending all our money overseas, whatever's about to happen with our financial system, because people were saying it's not true that Saudi Arabia is joining BRICS on January 1.
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And I'm like, yes, it is true. And that whole thing obviously came to pass. Nobody's talking about that and the petrodollar that if you noticed right now, which is a very which is the biggest deal we have right now. And and the truth is I believe that they want America. The they when I say they, you know, I call them, the fourth right, but the these are the great resetters, I call them.
30:06
These globalist billionaire oligarchy that has captured our nation and many other nations, they want America to get so chaotic, so violent, so divided, so angry. Biden goes and puts out this video about a hundred million people in America basically being domestic terrorists and extremists that need to be taken down to save some democracy that doesn't exist. We don't have a democracy when the true information is hidden from the people on a massive scale on a military grade brainwashing scale. Thank you to, Obama and his friends making it legal, though they were doing it before. But once they reverse the Smith Munt act, and you trace everything, the whole media is a joke.
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But we, the people, have to decide, no. Our our our neighbors are not our enemies. We actually do have a common enemy. I always, hearken back to Martin Luther King with saying something that we should think about now, which is these great resetters, this Davos crew, they seem to be pushing full steam ahead with the neocons on left and right, the uni party for World War three. Okay?
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And and they want as much chaos in America, I believe, call responsibility to protect, have some kind of UN thing where they get together with the with their human rights group, which includes, like, Venezuela and Cuba and North Korea now, and say that America's guns, America's systematic racism, America's inequality is the problem of the world. So let's call some responsibility to protect BS because all those people that use responsibility to protect to go into foreign nations illegally, including Libya and other places they've done color revolutions, Ukraine. That's what they used was that they created so much chaos on the ground in those nations that it they demanded that the UN come in and save the day, and and that will not work here. But, Martin Luther King, I believe, during, Vietnam said they're sending black kids and white kids to die in Vietnam equally so we equally have the same, enemy. And what I say right now is if they push for this with the war that the propaganda that's starting about Taiwan sounds very similar to what they the propaganda about Ukraine, both situations are not what they seem, they're gonna send all our kids to, to fight.
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They they can't they don't have a military that's functioning as we know. So it's like we should all realize that if we don't come together as the people and realize that this cesspool in DC and the captured governments all over the country are not, the force that can change anything, but we all standing together, standing up, not being afraid. The January 6 operation stopped what would have been by now, I think, huge anti war uprisings all over, especially in DC. They didn't happen this time. And maybe we have to reevaluate how afraid we are of these agent provocateurs.
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If that's that fear of that is worth it. Because if they do push us to the next level, they're gonna need to do a draft. We all know that. And you know what? No one's kids are gonna be immune.
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It doesn't matter your color, your race, your kids are transgender. It doesn't matter. If we lose freedom and we go into a world a bigger world conflict, you know, we're all on the same side of we don't want that. And and I really just think that we have to start looking at the bigger picture as individual citizens of freedom and liberty and rights. And do we want this dystopian agenda 2030 future by any means necessary, or do we want to step up now and say no more?
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And the problem is we're in this 2024 range, and now it's Trump versus, you know, Biden, where it's not Trump versus Biden. It's not. It is literally what do you want America to look like in the future? Do you want this agenda 2030 global governance world, you know, 17, you know, agenda of track, trace surveillance worldwide, one world money, one world military, one world government, one world all of this, or do you want nation states that, are what what works best, in my opinion, to thrive and then work cooperatively? The whole globalism model based around the fraudulent UN, WEF, and all these WHO is broken, and they are trying to save it by any means necessary and the financial thing.
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And we, the people, are the only people that can say, you know what? We're not gonna do that. We're gonna take back our nation, and we're gonna make sure that our nation is free and and back on track, and then we can export that elsewhere. But until we fix our nation from the inside and and these captured politicians aren't gonna do that.
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Seth Holehouse: One thing also I think that they're trying to accomplish with this is to make people lose hope in humanity. Because especially for people that are just now getting exposed to this information. I know that I went through my own processes. I'm sure that you did of learning how evil certain people in this world are. Once you start getting into the adrenochrome, the the, you know, child sex trafficking, the, you know, the rich satanic stuff.
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You go through that well, I think it was a book I read a long time ago. I think it was someone who was describing as a dark night of the soul. You go through this this period where you just get crushed by the weight of seeing how evil the world is. And that's hard. And I think that I've seen it a lot within our own movement of people.
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You see it in the comments that they've they've just given up. They like the world and it'll never be fixed these, you know, these pedophiles run everything. We're never gonna be they've they've really thrown in the towel. Like they've got, you know, they become black pilled as as you know, which I hate that the pill words, right? But they're they're black pilled.
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And and that's my concern though, is that these are people that have spent years trying to understand this information and I think in recovering from it. But for a lot of America, they're just now being exposed to this. How are they going to handle it? And these are people that are already struggling to handle a somewhat normal reality. Right?
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They're already dealing with being triggered and all kinds of psychiatric meds. How are they going to handle this? And my real concern, though, is just that that people will lose hope in humanity. And it's because it has taken me time to rebuild my hope in humanity. It's taken me going to the reawaken tours and meeting people and seeing that there's actually a lot of really, really good people that have faith, and they have morals, and they're really fighting to save this country.
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And there's these people all over the world fighting to save it. So that's my concern, though, is that not enough people will be able to see that and they'll think, gosh, the whole world's become so evil. Why try?
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Mel K: Yeah. I mean, that's that's the scary part, but that's what they want. That that is what these people want. They have a dystopian future planned for humanity except for themselves. And, you know, that's with the whole depopulation, degrowth, you know, taking all our natural resources and and then, you know, telling us we have to rent them from them.
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I mean, the whole climate change movement, all of this stuff is about demoralization, dehumanization. You know, the we you and I have had whole shows on the Besmanoff g Edward Griffin interview, which I always say people should go watch. We're way past the the red red flags of that situation. What I do think, though, is a good thing is I think that they've really overplayed their hand between the pandemic, between watching what happened in Ukraine and people understanding, you know, $200,000,000,000? They have $200,000,000,000 to send to a foreign country that was is totally corrupt, but also they were reporting that it was corrupt.
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They were reporting that there were Nazis there. They were reporting that oligarchs had one foot in Russia, One foot in in Ukraine Twenty Fourteen, all of that. But I think the the sheer amount of sending our money in the in the tune of $200,000,000,000 while our cities are littered with drugs and homelessness and and crime, and then, you know, our manufacturing was gutted, You and I have been all over this country. You've moved a couple times to places where, you know, full towns are abandoned. You know?
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The war, the operation I call the plandemic, the biggest thing I think that was about was destroying the middle class because the middle class are the people that stand, you know, the middle class. Well, you know, I also saw that since the Biden regime went in, which is why we have to define what's happened here, there's been more regulations put on small businesses and and farming and all of that than than ever before, and they're really all based on shutting them down. They they this is the globalization of everything. I've done also shows on I think that February was the beginning of where we are now. I don't think that it was what we were sold.
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And and so what I believe too, and and this is this was this is also something that a lot of these people with big voices don't talk about. They they still don't acknowledge it. It's on all of their websites. Agenda 2030 is a real thing, and that's just the beginning. That's the agenda 2030, I believe, is when there is no nation states.
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There is no, you know, there's no freedom, no inalienable rights, full track and trace surveillance. That's the goal for that. But then it goes forward and it gets more and more ominous as it goes. And why why people aren't rejecting that on a massive scale is because I don't think they know that the right now, what we're dealing with in America is, our destiny as as a future nation state, or will we become kinda like a hunger games, which is how they write it in their own literature, cog in this globalist wheel of control. And it really if you go read their own documents on their own websites, look up global governance on WeForum or any of the websites, or look up agenda 02/1930 and what they're talking about.
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If you if you read the language of the 17 sustainable development goals, what I will tell you is since Barack Obama, without the permission of We the People and the consent of the governed in 2015, signed us up for agenda 2030 and made the full commitment for us to basically also fund it. What you have to understand is, a, it shifted China and their their the way that they manage their people into being that's the model. Klaus Schwab has said it. Larry Fink has said it. Gates has said it.
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Rockefeller said it many times. Kissinger that how they manage their people is is is a good way. It's efficient. It's called communism and full track and trace surveillance control, but that that's not hidden in agenda 02/1930. But on top of that, if you look at what a Barack Obama and then now Biden coming into office with his 30 executive orders he dropped on the desk and everything that they've done, everything that they've done is in line with meeting those 17 sustainable development goals for the global governance of agenda 2030.
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None of it is none of any of this that he has put in, Biden especially, is about America. None of it is about securing America, making America energy efficient, making us safer. It's got all the equity stuff everyone knows by now. They've overplayed the card. It's such BS.
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So the whole thing with with the Harvard is laughable. I've been calling it the poison ivy league for decades. I have to tell you, like, I'm I'm a lot of it is overplayed, but the American people, I think if they really understood this this this push towards aligning with the global governance, global billionaire oligarchy running it, you know, and this goes from Davos to Bilderberg to, you know, meetings, you know, all over the world, these COP meetings. That's how they're that's where they're doing this. And and they they make it like it's benevolent.
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I was on with somebody, a big influencer on the right, millions of followers. He's, like, talking about the that the it's a conspiracy theory that the World Economic Forum is is not a benevolent networking group, you know, when you have when you have MPs all over the world. But I think if the American people were getting the message, and it shouldn't be left or right, Republican and Democrat, It's all BS. And anyone that's still playing that game is deceiving their people and raising money, probably being like, well, we'll beat them or we'll beat them or those lefties or those righties. No.
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No. No. What people need to understand is that there is a globalist billionaire oligarchy of bullies with useful idiots that have infiltrated our entire country, probably been going on since the sixties, that feel like they are at their endgame. And like I keep saying, they've never been so close to their global governance rate reset one world government, but they've also never been so far. And I feel like where I go around the country, even last night, we stopped we I went to Miami, and we're driving home, and we stopped and had dinner.
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And I'm with a bunch of people that we don't know. We're sitting having dinner at the bar. They all know something is terribly wrong with this country, and nobody brought up left or right Republican, Democrat. Nobody even brought up Trump or Biden. They just know that our country is being destroyed on purpose from within, and that a lot of people aren't sure why.
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And I think more people out there should be pointing to the sign up in 2015 by Barack Obama. All the same people are in there with Biden. It's all about global governance. Where does BlackRock and and Vanguard and all them stop and our government begin? Where does, Davos and the great reset stop and our government begin?
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And why are all these people pushing all these things? And and one thing I would say to your audience, please go while it's still there, and it's also on my resource page, but please go to, the WhiteHouse.gov and look up for September 2023. Biden and Harris put out a recommitment to the halfway point of agenda 02/1930. And if you read through that thing and you read all their commitments, they're talking about trillions of dollars of taxpayer money going to global entities in their next term. So what you have to say is why are we putting money into the world bank for climate change?
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Why are we yes. Exactly. And if you scroll down that and you look at the money part at the bottom, you're gonna see everything that they line out in their in their bill bullet points. You'll see there's they're talking about trillions of dollars going to yeah, going to United States is
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Seth Holehouse: committed to the full implementation of 02/1930 agenda and the SDGs at home and abroad, investing over $100,000,000,000 Including 43 you know, 2,000,000,000 for this. My goodness.
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Mel K: It's all of them. And it's all it's all of our money going to foreign globalist entities. How can people think that there's not a globalist takeover? They're putting it on the White House website. Look at it.
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Seth Holehouse: Yeah. And global health and and security and I mean, what a billion
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Mel K: Every single one
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Seth Holehouse: of them. Billions and billions of dollars.
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Mel K: All going out of our country to a globalist entity, and people don't think that there's a globalist it it's between globalism and and American greatness. And people don't they put it on the White House web. Look. Every it's every sustainable development goal, and look at where the money's going to global funds. Global funds.
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Seth Holehouse: Even here, $2,800,000,000 in foreign assistance programs that promote gender equality for gender equality and women's empowerment globally.
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Mel K: None of this money is going into rebuilding America. Our infrastructure, our supply chains, our manufacturing, it's all every dollar that Biden Harris is talking about there goes to globalist funds. So to the American people, what I would say and to the people that watch us because they're awake is go read that, you know, print it out. And when people ask you, you know, what your thoughts are about 2024, you say, you know what? I'd like to remain America.
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You know? I'd like to I'd like to remain the nation state of America, and I'd like other nations to remain their nation states because that's the one thing. You know? People, they keep talking about Trump. I'll tell you another thing.
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The rest of the world is not going to deal with the Biden administration or or the people that he has in that oh, Biden, I call it. They don't trust them. You know? After Afghanistan, after Ukraine, after all these sanctions, they're sanctioning Uganda because they don't because they are against the LGBTQ plus movement. Samantha Power is sending billions of dollars around the world to push our idea of democracy when we don't even have one.
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And at the same time, we can't go around the and they're they're they're just sending all our money out when you and I both know there's so many things they could do within with that money that would benefit our country for decades to come, and they don't they're not even talking about America, the Biden regime.
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Seth Holehouse: I mean, America could look like that beautiful futuristic vision of America. We've got hovering cars and beautiful infrastructure. We had the money to do that. It just it's all being sent. But I want to end on one quite one final question for you.
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So you you said something I want to hone in on. You said that these these globalists, you know, these oligarchy, that they've never been so close to implementing this this one world order, this global system, absolute nightmare. But you also said that they've never been so far away. And that's why I want you to explain that more because it's it's easy to get overwhelmed with this information, especially you look at Epstein's that, you know, just a drop in the ocean in terms of these these operations. But I think it's also important to know that they're also very weak, and that they are at the edge of their precipice.
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Like we're at the edge, but they're also at the edge. I want to hear your take on that. Because that, to me, is what gives me hope and what makes me wanna fight even harder. Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it.
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And they either have to win or they're going to destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, especially as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down, you can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply.
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Mel K: Yeah. You know, there was a a book I was given, like, twenty years ago. I was in a weird place, and I was given this book, The Language of Letting Go. It's like a a book, kind of when I was kinda disillusioned with life. I was living in LA.
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It was a dark time in my life, and I, I think that message always stays with me. And and what that message is is that sometimes you have to let go of what you think or feel or or believe in order to to go to the next level of of hope and and and commitment and to reenergize yourself. And it's not about letting go being weak. It's about letting go being, surpassing whatever's holding you back. And what we have, I believe, in this country right now are people that aren't as much seeing the bigger picture.
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And if they did, they would be empowered by it, and they would unite over it. And I feel that's happening. I I first of all, because the media is so fully controlled by the globalist billionaire oligarchy, we have no idea what the majority of America thinks. We only know what the Biden regime and their Smithmont act friends and, you know, their their, you know, puppet masters are telling us. I don't believe that that's true.
50:40
I just don't think enough people out there understand what we just showed them on the screen right now that they're not hiding it. And the other thing is I do shows as you do with people from all over the world. Everyone all over the world from right now, I've done shows with people from Romania, Monaco, Ireland, and I'm talking in the last Africa this morning. I had a guy from Kenya. All these people.
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And you know what? They're all watching America, and they're waiting for the American people to stand up. And they're rooting for us now, but they're not rooting for our government or they want our military industrial complex out of their countries. They want us to take back our nation. And that is, really powerful.
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And I think there's people all over the world because as I keep saying and a lot of people, you know, remember when it was like Donald Trump saying, they're not after me. They're after you, but I'm in the way, which I agree with to a certain extent. But I don't think that that's the case, and I don't think that the takedown of Donald Trump is coming from inside America. I believe that it's this globalist billionaire oligarchy that it wants to take out America because I believe that the real truth is that they're not after America. They're after the world, and America is in the way.
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And if the American people understood that our birthright or if you came here as a legal citizen and adopted this nation with pride and with with good intentions, how special of a position we are put in on the scheme of of humanity, of life. People are going to look back at this time right now, and they're gonna say, you know, in tyranny and and and this totalitarian technocracy, this world globalist keblob tried to swallow America. I did this, and it didn't happen because I was involved, because I took it personally, because I believe that being a citizen of humanity and and then having the the god's grace to be a citizen of The United States Of America with our still intact, whether they like it or not, constitution, bill of rights, inalienable rights, the DNA in our founding, all of that, that I stood up personally and I did this. And if we had even, you know, 5,000,000, 10 million Americans that felt this call to action, call to duty for all of humanity, I'm telling you the whole world is rooting for us. And frankly, if people do not understand, they are also most of the world, what you don't know, is rooting for Donald Trump.
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And not because it's Donald Trump or his mean tweets. It's because it's what they see is freedom and America great again, which the most of the world wants, including the BRICS nations. The reason this is happening is because they cannot trust these people that have taken over our nation and most of the world. Would they want they want to have all nation states respected, borders, language, culture, but they also want a cooperation, not a globalist lie that is all about domination and power for power's sake. And, you know, I'll end on that.
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I really believe that the more we your audience, my audience, me, you, the more we impress upon people the unique opportunity that we have right now, all of us in our own sphere of influence, in our own world, in our own nation to be heroes. You know, a lot of people my age, we're the same age probably, you know, they look at their lives and they evaluate them. You and I ended up doing this, which we would never have imagined in a million years. You you two and me and Rob, we were like, well, we'll try it. But everyone right now is an opportunity to be a hero, to be a leader, to be something.
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Don't we we already know we can't trust the uni party. Most of the billionaire oligarchy bought up every position from school board to to state legislatures to secretary of states. They just are all bought and paid for. Wants to be a politician anyway? But guess what?
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There's so many people out there regardless of education, background, history. I don't care if you went to jail and you re rehab your life. You were once an addict. Now you're thriving. Whatever your past is, doesn't matter right now.
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It's funny. We were watching Lost recently. We rewatched that show, and there's a part in that show Lost where, the main guy says to the girl, you know, we're on this island. We have a chance to redefine ourselves and our lives and who we want to be. And I feel like right now, people on planet Earth, but certainly these citizens of The United States Of America, throw the r and d out the window.
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We have a chance to redefine who we are as a nation and who we are individually. And that is something that we should all take personally and feel positive and pride about and say, you know, how am I going to make a difference here? And just educate yourself and take the reins and the lead wherever you are. I I think it's an extraordinary, exciting time to be alive as much as it's scary and all of that. Shut off the propaganda.
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If the social media is making you bringing you down, stop participating. You know? If if you're watching shows or you're watching news, even even Fox News, you know, people still watch that, they could walk away feeling defeated. Stop watching it because you there's so much you can do in your own world. Just by watching a show of of, you know, Man in America, you learn something.
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You you have on Great Guess. Whatever sparks your interest and your passion, become an expert on it and go be the Paul Revere in your neighborhood or your town. Start neighborhood groups about freedom and and and and understanding, like, this globalist threat. It's real. I just feel like there's so much opportunity to be great right now when you might've been okay and you might've been moving along.
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You lived in this debt slavery model and you've just gotten the rut of America. Well, now America can rise like never before, but you have to be the first person to do it personally. And and that's what I think right I think right now is about taking personal responsibility for this nation and and your liberty and your freedom because the war right now is about and 2024, in my opinion, is about will we remain a or will we become an enslaved, you know, agenda 2030 cog in a wheel. And I believe most Americans would prefer to fight shoulder to shoulder regardless of differences for freedom.
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Seth Holehouse: I couldn't agree more. And I know that you and I both interviewed Michael Nels, which I think I'll be publishing shortly, but you've already published it. And he's really has a mastery understanding of how to improve our brain, how to how to fight off this attack on the human brain, and how to actually regenerate our brain. So we're sharper, we have better memory, and we're not getting Alzheimer's. At this at the core of his prescription is purpose, having a strong purpose.
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And there is no greater time that I can think of in my life, where there's been an opportunity to define ourselves with a purpose of saying, you know what? I'm gonna save this country for my kids, for my grandkids, for the rest of the world. And so that's what you're doing. That's why I'm here. I want to encourage folks, if you folks most people watching the show already know Mel Kay.
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If you don't, where have you been? But you've got a fantastic show. Rumble, you got everything up on Rumble. You're also I listen to you mostly on podcast. So whatever your podcast app is, search for Mel Kay on there.
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This is Mel's Rumble channel. I'll put the link in the description. Mel also has an incredible website. So the melkshow.com, which also go in the description. What's key here is this button called resources.
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So at her website resources, if you want to learn more, what you're learning, my recommendation should go beyond just listening to podcasts. Oh, yeah. Studying, reading the documents. There's no better place to start than the resources page on Mel Kay's website. This will be in the link.
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You go down here. There's just so much information on here. You can become incredibly knowledgeable. You can teach so many people. You can become the Paul Revere in your own neighborhood with this information.
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So follow Mel.
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Mel K: That's the goal.
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Seth Holehouse: Watch the show. Teach yourself. Get engaged. Knowledge is power. This is the war we're fighting.
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Mel, again, it's always wonderful having you on. Thank you for making the time to come on. You're you're such an asset to this movement to fight to save our country and and really the world.
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Mel K: Oh, well, thank you. And you are too. And you know how I feel about you guys. And and I'm so glad to be in this together. You know, a lot of people fall away.
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They come in. They fall away, but you've been so consistent and such a good friend, on this journey. And I just wanna encourage everyone, like you said, educate yourself because once you start digging into this stuff and and looking at it deeper, it it motivates something in you. It gives you an energy. And get out there.
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And if there's not a local group, start one. It it motivates people. We gotta get together again in person and and really forget the r and d, republican democrat left and right. Start just being a single human being that wants to be a better human being and wants to share the experience with others, and and that'll be a a much better way to go forward. Thank you so much, Seth.
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I I you are amazing. Man in America is my favorite show out there, and I really appreciate everything you do. Thank
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