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Episode 12: The Godfather Part 2 (1974) · Take #2: Movie Reviews

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Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition
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of the Take to Pod with Mom and Dad.
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I'm Dad. And I'm mom.
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And we are back for episode 12. It has been a busy couple weeks.
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Yes, we've we've been away for a couple weeks.
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It was Easter weekend, We were away for the weekend.
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We had just. Been away for only a few days,
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we've just been busy. Yeah.
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But those were the days that we typically would record on.
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So it did. It set us back a little bit, but
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we had a lot of fun. Yeah, a lot.
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Of kids got to be with their cousins, which was really sweet
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and really special. Yeah, they had a really good
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time. We had a really good.
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Time. Yeah, we did an egg hunt for the
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kids. 2 egg hunts actually. Yeah, it's been just very busy
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at home with work and everything.
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Kids are, you know, driving this up the wall.
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Today was rough. Today was rough.
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Because it was as rough as the movie we're about to do.
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Some some days you spend a day with your kids and you feel
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euphoric after because you had such a great day.
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Today was the exact opposite. Like once the kids were down, we
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were like fuck everything. Let's.
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Do. We literally went and we got
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some McDonald's, so we watched the rest of the movie.
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We were like, let's just turn off our brains and chill because
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fuck this, you know? It's bad.
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When I say should we have McDonald's, you're saying that
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you know it's bad. So.
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And I was like, bring, bring, bring the nuggies, bring a
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Mcflurry. Let's let's pick.
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Out a flyer, fish dress like a Mac.
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Let's pig out then to our podcast because it makes us feel
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better. So yeah, the kids are down.
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Let's do our podcast. Tonight's episode is not a huge
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surprise considering the last movie we did, but.
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Yeah, but this is the first time we've done something like this.
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That's true. We're doing back to backs.
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So tonight, let's do the drum roll, mom.
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OHP fuck I didn't come up with anything.
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Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
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We are doing The Godfather Part 2 immediately following The
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Godfather Part 1 because honestly it should be 1 movie.
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Calling this a sequel is is criminal.
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These two movies deserve each other but honestly it's really
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long both of them. They should be like it should be
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3 movies. Maybe it should be like a mini
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series or something. But anyways.
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Yeah, she was trying to make a point.
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Yeah, we we love Godfather one. We're like, you know what?
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Let's do this. Let's do the 2 movies
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back-to-back. You know, Godfather Part 2 is
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widely known as potentially the greatest sequel ever made.
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A lot of people argue that it's better than the original, but
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let's get into it. All right, let's do it.
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So Godfather Part 2. This synopsis goes Michael
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Corleones 1958 struggle to expand the family business while
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facing betrayal and flashbacks to a young Vito.
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Corleones rise from a Sicilian immigrant to a New York City
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mafia Don. While Vito builds an empire
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through respect, Michael loses his humanity and family,
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isolating himself through paranoia and ruthlessness.
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So accurate. That is very accurate and this
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movie is very, very different from the first one, but we'll
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get into that shortly. Directed by Francis Ford
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Coppola, again starring out Pacino Robert De Niro, this time
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as young Vito. Talia shires in it again as
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Connie and Michael V Gazzo as Frankie. 5 Angels.
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Hmm, yes I have. I have some thoughts on Frankie
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5 Angels later. Yeah, this movie budget was $13
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million, and it did 90 million worldwide when it came out.
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So it did pretty well for the times.
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It made about 10 times its money.
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Was they got the deal for this when the first one?
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The first one wasn't even out. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but I I'm assuming that this was highly anticipated
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after the first one. It was, it came out two years
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after, so it was almost like they were filmed back-to-back.
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You had Robert Deniro, who was cast as young Vito, Which.
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Was perfect casting. It was great.
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It was unbelievable. Except for his mouth.
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What supposedly happened that made his mouth like that?
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What do you mean? Like when he was older?
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Yeah. So there's one scene when they
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cuts back to the flashback when Vito grows the mustache after he
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kills Fanucci. He's wearing the prosthetic.
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They gave him the prosthetic in the mouth at that point.
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OHS, you can't tell. Yeah, it wasn't as intense as
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the Marlon Brando won in the first Godfather.
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Yeah, I think they were playing kind of different versions of
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Veto. Obviously once young and ones
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old, but I think they both put their own spin on the character.
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Yeah, it's, it's crazy how Robert De Niro is playing a
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younger version of a character that Marlon Brando's playing.
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It's very, very interesting. And he won an Oscar for it.
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He. Rightfully so.
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It won best supporting actor and it pissed off Al Pacino quite a
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bit because he's like, really, you guys stumble for two movies
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in a row like crazy. But he kind of, he kind of did
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it to himself with the with the Academy.
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Yeah, Al Pacino does deserve his flowers though, because this is
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another amazing performance by. Him.
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It's freaking unreal. So let's get into the first time
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you watched it. Do you recall the first time you
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watched them? I'm gonna go ahead and say it
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was with you. So you do recall, OK.
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I do. I definitely remember the first
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movie being on when I was a kid. I don't really remember the
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second one and I didn't even know what happens at all in the
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second one. Like I had an idea with the
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first one, but I watched the second one the full way through
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with you and I had no idea. I didn't know that young Vito
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was going to be in it. I didn't know the freaking crazy
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character arc between Kay and Michael's marriage.
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Like there's there were so many moving parts that I wasn't
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prepared for. So I was really shocked and kind
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of pleasantly surprised the first time I saw it because it
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really takes you on kind of a rollercoaster ride and it's very
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different from the first movie. Yeah, it's very different.
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The first time I watched this, well, it wasn't even in the full
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thing. We had a copy of this on VHS in
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the house, but it was only the second tape because it was split
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into two. So have you seen the second tape
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a bunch? I've seen the second table whole
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bunch of times and the second tape.
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Always it's it's so 90. It starts right after the
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intermission, so when Vito kills Don Fanucci, that's kind of
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where it starts. Honestly, now I'm thinking about
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it. The first half of the movie is
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very It's slow. It's much slower.
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Yeah, it definitely. Mostly it could be just if you
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watched the first Godfather and then watch Part 2 second tape,
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you kind of figure out what's happening for the most.
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Part everything happens after the intermission, but the
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beginning is important for laying the groundwork.
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Sure, for sure. But it is really funny that you
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watched the second table bunch of times with no context.
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Why is this a flashback like it didn't understand?
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Then you start seeing the characters names like they're
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they're referencing Veto Ohio. OK, I get it now.
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You know, you start to like put the pieces together.
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That's awesome though, because it's almost like a mental
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gymnastics that you had to do to understand the movie.
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Kids today, they'll never know. They're streaming, they
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struggle, they get the full. Movie.
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I never get it in full HD. We were like piercing together.
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Shitty. Like we had tape 2 in the house.
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Tape one, I didn't even know where it was.
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I didn't know we had it at all. It was just, I think it was
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borrowed. And maybe he's like, oh, just
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give me tape one or I don't know.
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That's awesome. So why do you like or hate this
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movie? Or love this movie even?
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I'm not going to say that I love it because I do actually like
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the first one better. This movie is just as good, but
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it's a lot more upsetting I would say.
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So you don't think it's better than the original?
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So it's not the greatest sequel of all time.
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You. Think I don't think it's better
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than the original. I think it's pretty much just as
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good, but I don't like it as much as the original.
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The original for me, there's a lot more of an innocence and
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purity to the character. It's a lot less depressing, to
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be honest. It's a fun.
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It's a more fun, happier movie. Yeah.
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And. The flashback, depressing,
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vetoes Young life. It's it's a kind of a breath of
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fresh air in the movie, but Michael's arc is sad and dark.
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The the flashbacks are like a kind of like an origin story and
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you see somebody at their lowest point moving up slowly and then
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yeah. But it also gives some levity
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and some light. Yeah, the movie would be really
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messed. Like so this original cut of
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this was apparently 4 hours or something and they're like you
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have two movies on your hands on your hands.
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And they did test audience like they, they showed it to test
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screenings and the audience was so confused because there was
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way more flashbacks and flash forwards and then they had to
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cut it down completely like a lot.
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So I think the flashbacks and flash forwards are the just the
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right amount and in this final version, but you you really see
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the darkness. It's like Ying and Yang almost.
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Well, critics argue that they don't like the amount of Vito
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flashbacks. They think it takes away from
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the Michael Corleone storyline. But like I was saying, the
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Michael Corleone storyline is so dark.
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We need to see like the veto flashback.
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Like, I know he's being a criminal, but it almost brings
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some innocence into the movie that it desperately needs.
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Yeah, I I agree with you. I think need that flashback of
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veto, but I kind of agree with people.
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I think it's anyway, I think it takes away from the movie a
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little bit, but so you like the first one better?
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I like the first one better, but I think they're both equally
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amazing films. Yeah, I agree.
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Godfather Part 2 is a great film.
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I really like the first one and it just shows because of how
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many times I've seen the first one versus the second one and a
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lot of people. The second-half of the second
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you've seen a lot. Sure, that's true, yeah.
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I'm gonna keep roasting you, but that looks so funny.
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My fault. It was also it's.
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Just so 90s I love. It it's hella 90s, so, you know,
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the second one is really good. It's just very, very dark.
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There's so many little nuances in the movie that is very
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different from it even like the, the, the, the filming style is
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the same, but the Italian culture has been washed away
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like in the opening scene. I disagree.
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No, no, let me, let me, let me give you my point here.
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So the opening scene, you have the flashback right to young
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Veto in Sicily. But after that you have you're
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at a party for, it's a, it's a party for Anthony Michael's sons
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Communion, first Communion. And there's music playing.
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There's a band that's a huge party.
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It's basically like the wedding scene in the first movie, but
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the wedding scene in the first movie.
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They're singing Italian music. There's You can argue that
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Michael Corleone has lost his culture, but we have a lot of
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Italian culture shown in the Vito storyline.
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No, for sure. But I'm talking about the
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Michael part. OK?
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So if I don't say veto part, I'm referring to the regular
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timeline. OK, so for the Michael Corleone
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timeline where he's in charge of the family now, the opening
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scene, you know the band can't play that Italian song.
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Professional musicians? There wasn't one Italian in the
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group here. Come on, let's have the calendar
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Bubble, bubble, bubble. Where are you?
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No. The guy, the senator, what's his
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name? Pat Geary.
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He can't even pronounce his name properly.
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But he says Vito. Vito Corleone.
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But later you find out he's just being a Dick because he can.
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He actually knows how to say his name.
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But you can see that there's quite a difference in the the
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the food. Even he's like Frank Pentangeli.
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He's complaining about the food being served.
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He's like, what the fuck is this?
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You know, there's champagne, There's no red wine.
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Like he's like, what's going? On Yeah, but he's he's a drunk
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asshole. But I think we are, we're we're
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seeing Michael trying to fit into this Waspy culture.
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Almost like when they're in Havana, they're introducing all
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these senators and governors and all this.
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Everyone's white. They're all like Waspy white
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males. Sure.
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I think this is kind of Michael trying to square up and become
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one of them. Yeah.
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And almost leaving his Italian culture behind to become.
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But that. Quote UN quote.
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Business that was that was the the little the fun part almost
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of the first movie. You had the Italian culture, you
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had the music, the the, the walls with the dad like you.
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All these little details, the cannoli part, like cannoli, like
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nothing is mentioned. The scene where Clemenza shows
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Michael how to make the sauce in the first movie.
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There's nothing like that in this.
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The only thing that brings you back to that old school Italian
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vibe is the flashbacks, which I think is like a different movie
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almost. And then Frank, Frank
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Pentangeli, where he he's like Morte Morte, like he wants
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blood. He's telling Michael and
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Michael's like, no, I have business with Hyman Roth.
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It cannot be disturbed. Well, you can almost argue that
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this is like a critique of being an immigrant and what happens
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when like Vito immigrates from from Italy.
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So he has a lot of Italian culture.
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Sure. His children, first generation,
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the first generation, they did not, they grew up in America.
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That's a good point. And then the next generation
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even more so, like the melting pot of America takes over and
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they just become more and more Americanized until they're
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Italian culture does get washed away.
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So it may actually be making a point.
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It might be a commentary on that.
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Yeah, there's, there's all these little details, right?
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That's like the music, the food, the the wine is mentioned.
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And then you have when they're having dinner right at that same
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party at in the evening, they say Chandana when they toast.
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And that means 100 years and couple of the wives are like,
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what does that mean? And then I'm like, if you've
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been married to them and you've been around them long enough,
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you think that you would know what that means?
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Well, it's Fredo's wife that asked that, and Fredo's wife is
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very problematic in this film. Yeah, she's a fucking nightmare.
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I missed her a few times. Poor guy, I know.
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Anyway, so you want to get into the segments.
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Yeah, let's do it. OK, so we start with our most
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awkward 1 The cringiest moment. What do you got?
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So I don't actually know if cringey is a right word for
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this, but I think it is like a problem in the storyline.
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OK, so the Havana assassin, OK, when Michael's bodyguard goes to
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kill Hyman Roth, this fucking guy takes six years to secure
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the hospital room. OK then he's awkwardly standing
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beside the bed with a pillow and then gets killed.
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Also, he's really old. Yeah, he's really old too.
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He kills Johnny. Johnny Ola.
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Johnny Ola quickly and exits the room swiftly, like he's a pro
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and then this one, he's like blundering around like he's
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supposed to be a pro. It should be quick.
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You should sneak in, slit the guy's throat and leave.
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Maybe cause he's really old, like he used all his energy on
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Johnny Ola by strangling him with the the coat hanger and
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then he's just like fuck I'm tired.
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No, I feel like it's. Taking vitamins that.
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Day I feel like it's honestly bad storytelling.
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They need him to get killed because Hyman Roth can't die yet
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and they're like, OK, we need to make it so that he like, messes
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up. Instead of messing up, he just
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takes six years. Like why couldn't he just have
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tried to kill him and failed? Maybe.
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I mean, he was being extra careful.
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It kind of did build suspense. It builds, spends, but he's
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standing there with a pillow, like the guy is helpless in a
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hospital. But you could easily just, like,
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slip a knife into his neck. Yeah.
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And then it's done in 2 seconds. You walk away, nobody knows it
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was you. I think they were trying to make
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he's trying to like smother him with a pillow to make it look
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like he died of natural causes. Yeah, but that was that was a
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poor plan and it would have taken longer than just letting
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the guys throat. That's an interesting one.
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I my cringiest moment is it's the scene that made me cringe
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the most and it's one of the most powerful scenes in film
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ever. And it's the IT was an abortion
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scene. Michael, you say you love me and
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then you talk about allowing me to leave.
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Things that have been going on for years between men and women
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will not become. Blind mind.
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Look. Look what's happened to us,
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Mike. My God, Look what's happened to
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our son Michael. Help me.
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I don't wanna hear about. It you will.
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I don't wanna hear about it. I don't wanna hear about it.
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I don't wanna hear about it. That scene is not cringy, but.
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It's no, it made me cringe. It was very uncomfortable.
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To watch. I could see how actually.
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Yeah, it's not cringy. Like I felt like I was in the
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room with a fighting couple and I needed to get the fuck out,
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but I couldn't because the door was locked or it was just, it's
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inappropriate for you to leave, but it's also inappropriate for
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you to be in the room. That scene, like I was watching
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that and I needed, like, I needed to take a walk after that
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and drink some cold water. It was really, really heavy.
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Like heavy. It's, it's shocking.
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It's shocking. I do have stuff to say about
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that scene later. But it's well acted scene, well,
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well written scene. But Oh my God.
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Well, we'll talk about it in detail later.
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But that scene like, Oh my God, like this is depressing.
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Like if that if that clip, that scene was playing and you were
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playing it loud and somebody else was in the house or like in
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another room, they'd be like, is everything alright down there?
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Like are you guys OK? Well.
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You can hear them like you can hear in the hallway.
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It flashes to the hallway with the kids.
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You can hear them screaming at each.
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Other No, I know that if that scene just playing in someone's
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like if I crank that scene up in an apartment, people next door
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would be like, yo, I think they're fucking going to kill
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each. Other so they called.
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Yeah, if they didn't know the movies, they called the police
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and be like, are you guys OK? It's true, It's true.
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Yeah. It's it's not a cringey scene.
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The acting is really good but I can see how it could make you
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cringe, cringe, disturbed and. In a good way, like it was so
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well acted it was very hard to find uncomfortable.
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Stupid cringe scene in this movie for me.
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That there isn't 1. Honestly, it's very well done.
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I thought you were gonna say the Fredo scene where he's where
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he's like laying back in the chair and he's like, I got
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stepped over Mike. I thought you were gonna say
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that because I kind of it's a little bit.
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Crunchy, your Big Brother Mike and I got stepped over.
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It's not how I wanted it. Yeah, it's because he's weak.
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That's why he's like, everybody thinks I'm stupid.
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It's like, no bro, you're just not scary.
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Alfredo in this movie. Yeah, we'll talk about friendly.
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Very I have some feelings for Fredo in this movie.
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Pause. So most iconic scene or moment.
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So Vita walking down the New York City street with the
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creative groceries on his shoulder.
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Oh, yeah. It's such a vibe, the music, the
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atmosphere. Like that set is incredible.
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Millions of dollars clearly just for that set because it's old
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time New York and it just has such like it.
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It just feels. It feels so authentic.
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Yeah, that's a perfect. Word from the last podcast about
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Godfather Part 1. I mentioned that if you go on
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YouTube, you'll find restored old footage of old New York from
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those times from the 20s cause there's look just like that and
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it looks exactly like. That yeah, it's really.
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Really freaky. The scenery is so incredibly
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well done in this movie it's wild.
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I actually read somewhere that in the veto flashbacks a lot of
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the men were wearing zippers and then a PA pointed out the
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zippers were not invented yet at that time and they reshot all
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the scenes with button trousers. Like that's how authentic they
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wanted to be. The YK empire hadn't started
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yet. What's that?
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You never look at the zipper, your jacket, they all say YK.
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Oh no, this. Is 1 company guy?
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That makes all the zippers. Yeah, it's freaky.
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The metal and plastic. Pretty.
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I think they account for like 90% of the world zippers.
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Oh yeah? Well, the zipper was not
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invented. Yet how do you not know that
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you've had zippers your whole? Life.
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I've never. I don't know.
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I've never. Looked at your zipper.
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What's wrong with you? Look at your zippers.
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I've broken a lot of. Zippers in my day.
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And then you look at it and go, who made this piece of shit?
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And you go, oh, it's white, OK. Yeah, they should improve the
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zipper. It's an old, it's an
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old-fashioned design. It works.
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Another scene I like is where Vito kills the Black Hand.
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First of all, that whole scene is amazing.
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Yeah, it's fucking really. Good.
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It's it's, it's intense, it's calculated, it's the, the
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tension really grows. From the moment he gives him the
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cash, right? Yeah, yeah.
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And the cafe. And then after he kills him, he
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goes up onto the roof and it's like the New York City skyline
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behind him, and he's disposing of the guns in different
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chimneys. It doesn't it feel like real,
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like authentic when he's on? That does it feels like he's got
21:50
to get rid of the evidence, he's got to get out of there, He's
21:52
got to protect himself. And I really like that scene
21:55
just because it's long, but it's it's very meaningful and it
21:59
really shows veto like kind of turning to the dark side but
22:03
being very calculated about it. When I went to New York and that
22:07
hotel I stayed at, when I looked out the window, there was a
22:10
building just like that across the street, old timey, probably
22:14
worth millions of dollars, but it's just a shit hole and it
22:18
just reminded me of the movie. It's very freaky.
22:21
There's still buildings like that.
22:22
Yeah, they still have like the very old buildings in New York,
22:24
and you can definitely get that that atmosphere and vibe from
22:28
it. And then my last scene is the
22:30
scene where Vito gets his revenge on Don Chicho and he
22:34
slashes his stomach. Open.
22:36
It's so satisfying to see his father, brother and mother
22:40
avenged. Crazy.
22:41
He's he kills him and he just like looks at him with hatred
22:45
and it, it feels, it feels good. That kid's been through some
22:49
shit like that. First been through some shit
22:51
opening scene. Oh my God.
22:53
Just like people just dying left, right, centre.
22:55
Well, the Don was right. He's like, you're gonna become
22:59
this guy. This child is going to become a
23:00
man and he's going to seek revenge.
23:02
He did. Yeah, he's a child now, he said.
23:04
But he's gonna. This child will grow.
23:05
Up. And he did.
23:06
He grew up and he's he. He got, he got his.
23:08
Yes. Give him the idea, pretty much.
23:10
He didn't need to be given that idea.
23:11
Yeah, he lost his whole family that day.
23:13
It's really sad. It's crazy.
23:15
So what's your most iconic out of the?
23:17
Three most iconic scenes, probably Vito walking down the
23:21
New York street just because it gives you like such interesting
23:24
shot of the scenery and it sets the atmosphere for the
23:28
flashbacks. OK, those are really good picks.
23:31
It's a tough one to pick in this movie.
23:34
I have some nominees, but even the one where Michael's meeting
23:38
Senator Pat Geary in his office, that opening like the first few
23:43
minutes of the movie and he's talking to him and Pat Geary is
23:46
just insulting him in front of everybody.
23:49
Well, you know he's going to. That guy's going to get fucked.
23:51
Yeah. You can't talk to Michael
23:53
Corleone like that. I don't care who you are.
23:55
Well the crazy part is the guy survives usually in the old
24:00
movies like in the old. Times I thought for sure he was
24:02
gonna kill him, but he does need him to get his gaming license.
24:06
He needs somebody. Yeah, exactly.
24:08
So it's better to have somebody that you know you can control
24:12
than have somebody a loose. Cannon so I've got here Most
24:17
iconic scenes or moments for me nominee would be Fredo being
24:20
executed. That whole sequence, it's so
24:23
depressing and sad. Anthony, he's here.
24:29
We're going fishing. No.
24:31
Michael wants to take him to Reno now.
24:38
OK, kid, you gotta go to Reno with your pop.
24:42
Come on, Anthony. I'll thank you friend again
24:44
tomorrow, OK boy you Anthony. Listen.
24:53
I'll catch one for you with the secret, right?
24:59
OK. You know it's coming every time
25:02
you watch this movie. You know it's coming, but you're
25:04
like, come on, man. Just let it go.
25:07
Just let him go. He's fishing with your sucking
25:10
asshole. He never lets anything go.
25:12
Who? Michael, Michael, that's your
25:14
brother. You go into your mother's
25:16
funeral and you hug him. Like just let it fucking go.
25:19
His sisters like forgive him for.
25:21
Connie said I forgave you, just just let it go.
25:23
Forgive him and he won't. He won't do.
25:25
It so. He's a bad person.
25:28
Yeah, it's it's quite the arc for Michael in this movie, but.
25:32
No, he doesn't have an art. No, no, from from the first
25:35
movie to now. OK, but in this movie, he's
25:38
eventually he starts out as a vengeful asshole and he ends out
25:41
as a vengeful asshole. He he absolutely has no growth
25:43
throughout. The movies, there's no growth,
25:45
but there's a change and I'll talk about where.
25:47
That yeah, he becomes worse. No, I don't.
25:51
Michael, why are the drapes open?
25:53
That is a crazy scene. Oh my God, do you like feel the
25:56
tension comes? Honestly, everybody at the end
25:59
of the night, whether you're single or a couple or whatever,
26:03
you get into your bedroom after a long day, you taking off your
26:06
shoes, you're whatever, you're getting into your, you know,
26:09
your pajamas and it's your safe zone.
26:12
Your bedroom, it's quiet. You know, you're just kind of
26:15
winding down. And where the drips open.
26:37
The friggin shooting starts happening right because he spots
26:39
the. Shooters pregnant in that bed.
26:43
Yeah. Like fuck off.
26:45
Anyway, so my most iconic is when Michael tells Fredo that he
26:50
doesn't want to see him anymore. When he tells him that when you
26:54
visit our mother, I want to know a day in advance.
26:57
So I I'm not there. It's a very heavy, difficult
27:01
scene to watch, but it's such a good scene in terms of who this
27:05
guy has become, what he's willing to let go of like direct
27:09
family when he was all about his family.
27:12
And now he's basically cutting off somebody from his family and
27:16
his last living brother other than Tom Hagan, who's not blood.
27:20
And then the acting on both ends.
27:23
Taking care of me. You're my kid brother.
27:27
You take care of me. You have to think about that.
27:31
You have a once think about that.
27:35
So Fredo off to do this. Same Fredo off to do that that
27:40
fatal take care of some Mickey Mouse nightclub somewhere.
27:44
So afraid I want to pick somebody up at the airport.
27:47
I'm your older brother Mike, and I was stepped over the way I
27:52
want it. I can handle things.
27:56
I'm smart. I'm like everybody says, like
28:00
dumb. I'm smart and I want to spend.
28:03
Is phenomenal. It's really good.
28:05
Do you? Do you think Fredo was telling
28:07
the truth when he said he didn't know it was gonna be a hit?
28:10
I'm gonna talk about that later. I'm.
28:12
Gonna leave. Suspense.
28:13
Because he says I was mad at you, Michael.
28:15
Some theories. Like how mad was.
28:17
He talk about it OK, but yeah, that's my most iconic one.
28:21
There's so many great ones, like even you said Don Fanucci
28:24
getting killed. Oh fuck, it's so good.
28:26
But the one that I think is very telling of where this person,
28:31
Michael Corleone has come to like how far he's gone, is that
28:34
scene or he's just like telling his blood brother, I don't wanna
28:39
see you anymore, which is really.
28:41
Yeah. It's something else.
28:43
Yeah. OK, let's get into quotes.
28:45
OK, So I have Michael Corleone. Come on, Frankie.
28:49
My father did business with Hyman Roth.
28:50
He respected Hyman Roth. Can I do Frank's part?
28:53
Yeah, go ahead. Your father did business with
28:55
Hyman Ross. He respected Hyman Ross, but he
28:59
never trusted Hyman Ross. I love that quote, it's so good
29:03
and he's absolutely right. Yeah.
29:07
You can do business with him, but he's a snake.
29:09
Hyman Roth. Hyman Roth, he's a snake and
29:12
he's out to get Michael for this entire movie.
29:14
He's been dying of the same illness for 20.
29:16
Years. The same heart attack for 20
29:17
years, Michael Corleone says. I don't feel I have to wipe
29:22
everybody out, Tom, just my enemies.
29:25
Yeah, that's a that's a scary, that's an uncomfortable scene
29:29
because he's he's he's antagonizing Tom Hagan,
29:32
basically. I have something on that later
29:35
and we'll talk about that later. But yeah, that scene is is very
29:38
heavy. I have Michael.
29:41
My father taught me many things. He taught me in this room.
29:45
He taught me. Keep your friends close.
29:48
But your enemies close. I wonder if that was like a real
29:53
saying before it was in this movie.
29:55
I'm not sure cause it's your friends close but your enemies
29:59
closer. It's a very common saying now.
30:00
Like I wonder if it really. If this movie popularized.
30:04
It yeah, it's possible because he says it as if it's not
30:07
something. He says it as if it's not a
30:09
common turn of phrase. Yeah, I'm going to just go ahead
30:11
and say it. This movie made popularized it.
30:15
You heard it here ladies and gentlemen to the next week as to
30:19
why this popularized. Keep your friends close but your
30:22
enemies closer same time. Just in infallible logic there,
30:26
we're just gonna say yes. And then my last quote is, oh,
30:31
Michael, Michael, you are blind. It wasn't a miscarriage.
30:34
It was an abortion. And abortion, Michael, just like
30:38
our marriage is an abortion, something that's unholy and
30:42
evil. I don't want your son, Michael.
30:44
I wouldn't bring another one of your sons into this world.
30:47
It was an abortion, Michael. It was a son, Michael, a son.
30:52
And I had it killed because this must all end.
30:56
Wow, Bravo, that is, yeah. Did you get chills?
31:02
Honestly, it doesn't matter who says it or in what context.
31:06
Those lines are very, very impactful.
31:10
She just wanted to hurt. Savage.
31:12
Oh my. God, it's bad enough that she
31:14
did it. She wanted to tell.
31:15
Him, his guts at that point. She wanted to tell him because
31:18
she wanted to hurt. Him.
31:19
No, she said. I did something that you'd never
31:22
forgive me. Because I knew you could.
31:25
Never forget. Exactly.
31:26
He and he's like, she's like, you'll never forgive me.
31:29
So he will definitely leave her. That's that's basically it.
31:33
Yeah. Because he was like willing to
31:34
make it work before that. He's like I can change.
31:37
Well, I have some stuff on that later, but she should have just
31:40
worked it out with him honestly. Oh, OK.
31:43
What else do you? Have those are all my quotes.
31:45
OK, I've got a few here. If anything, this life is
31:48
certain. If history has taught us
31:50
anything, it's that you can kill anyone.
31:53
And I think about a year or you after this, there was an attempt
31:57
on President Gerald Ford. There was an attempt on Donald
32:01
Trump. Well, there's been attempts.
32:03
I've been attempts on almost every president Reagan, Kennedy
32:06
was killed, but that was in six. Julius Caesar was killed.
32:10
You can go back all the way back to Roman Empire.
32:12
Exactly so. Doesn't matter who you are, how
32:14
high up Jesus was killed, doesn't matter who you are, you
32:17
can kill all these people. There's a deep cut OK is.
32:29
I know it was you, Fredo. You broke my heart.
32:34
You. Block my heart.
32:37
Well, that's an intense. Scene he kisses in the kiss of
32:39
death. Fredo, you're nothing to me now.
32:43
You're not a brother. You're not a friend.
32:46
I don't wanna know you or what you do.
32:49
Like I said, very. Heavy really coming down on
32:51
Alfredo. In my home, in my bedroom, where
32:57
my wife sleeps, where my children come to play with their
33:01
toys. In my home.
33:05
He does get, really. Quiet.
33:06
Yeah. I think this is like the the
33:08
first movie where Pacino does the sudden boom volume increase
33:13
on his voice because it becomes a staple of his, you know, in
33:16
movies. And I quoted it, the last one
33:18
from Heat. He's like she's got a great ass
33:22
who are who are from son of a woman.
33:25
It's. Yeah, it's so drastically.
33:28
Different. It's just like, I don't know
33:29
where volumes up. You got tits, you need a bra.
33:33
They got hair on them, Scarface. You.
33:37
Find my sister in the toilet. OK, that is Scarface.
33:41
Yeah, I'm just saying he it's in other movies too.
33:43
He does the sudden volume increase volume.
33:46
Wrap it up with the quotes. Fredo arguing with Michael.
33:49
I'm your older brother, Mike, and I was stepped over.
33:53
That's the way Pop wanted it. It ain't the way I wanted it.
33:56
I could handle things. I'm smart.
33:58
Not like everybody says, like dumb.
34:00
I'm smart and I want respect. Honestly, there's a little bit
34:03
of overacting in that scene. I don't think so.
34:06
I think it was Fredo at the in Havana.
34:09
How do you say banana daiquiri? My banana daiquiri really funny
34:15
scene Unintentional unintentional comedy for.
34:18
Sure. It's so typical of like, white
34:20
people when they go yeah to vacation in Spanish countries
34:24
like Hola, gracias, banana daiquiri.
34:30
Michael finding out that Kay had a quote UN quote miscarriage.
34:35
Was it a boy? Mikey, after 3 1/2 months, what
34:38
can't you give me a straight answer anymore?
34:40
Was it a boy? How did she even know it was a
34:43
boy? After three months, you wouldn't
34:44
know. I don't think she did.
34:46
I think she just was saying it. He's like, does it feel like a
34:49
boy at the beginning when she's dancing?
34:52
Yes. And she said yes.
34:53
She said it feels like a. Boy, it feels like a boy.
34:55
I've had a boy and a girl and well, honestly, my.
34:58
Parents are quite. Pregnant.
35:00
My pregnancy with the boy was a lot easier, so maybe she was
35:03
like, oh, I'm not vomiting my guts out, it's a boy.
35:06
I'm not all over the fucking place emotionally.
35:10
It must be a. Boy, I'm not borderline
35:12
suicidal. Yeah, it's a boy.
35:15
We got Frankie 5 angels. When he's done arguing with
35:18
Michael at the beginning, he's like Cheech abort.
35:22
He tells them to get the door. Really cool.
35:25
And because it's an Italian too. And then I got one from Hyman
35:29
Roth here when he's talking about Moe Green getting killed.
35:33
I didn't ask who gave the order because it had nothing to do
35:38
with business. And then one flashback 1 here.
35:41
Sorry. When Vito tells their landlord
35:44
to keep the old lady in and yeah and her dog and he comes back
35:48
and gives the money. He's like daughter and stays the
35:50
same as before. I just love that line delivery,
35:54
it's really good. That guy was actually a
35:56
comedian. He's a comedian.
35:58
Yeah, ohe should. That's why his like his scene.
36:00
It's kind of funny. It's a little comical.
36:02
Yeah, it's a little comical. And they liked that about him.
36:04
He's like you, you Sicilian. He's like I'm Calabrese.
36:07
He's like we're practically by zans.
36:10
And then when Connie brings that weird like I guess gold digger
36:14
guy to the the communion and she tells them moral we need money
36:19
and morals, like can I get a drink or something?
36:21
Like what a fucking loser. Do you know who you're dealing
36:24
with? And then Michael just looks at
36:26
him and looks at her. Actually, it doesn't even look
36:29
at it doesn't even knowledge the guy.
36:30
He just looks at Connie in front of this guy savagely.
36:32
Could I have a drink or something?
36:36
OK, boy. How would you please get him a
36:39
drink? We're going to Europe next week.
36:44
I'd like to book passage on the Queen.
36:46
So what do you come to me for? Why don't you go to a travel
36:48
agent? We're getting married first.
36:52
The ink on your divorce isn't dry yet and you're getting
36:54
married. You see your children on
36:59
weekends. You know your oldest boy,
37:02
Victor, was picked up in Reno for some petty theft.
37:04
You don't even know about Michael.
37:06
You fly around the world with men who don't care for you,
37:08
usually like a whore. You're not my.
37:10
Father, why do you come to me for?
37:12
Money, money. I don't know this Merrill.
37:17
I don't know what he does. I don't know what he lives on.
37:22
Why don't you tell? A marriage is out of the
37:24
question and you don't want to see him anymore.
37:28
He'll understand, believe me. I don't know this Merle.
37:32
I don't know what he lives on now.
37:35
Why don't you tell him marriage is out of the question and you
37:38
don't want to see him anymore? Like, just like that and.
37:41
Well, he obviously lives on nothing because Connie's they're
37:43
asking for money. So we're all kind of is a loser.
37:46
What? What do you think Merle does?
37:48
Merle, I don't know. He sells insurance.
37:50
Could be a druggie for all we know.
37:52
He doesn't have enough money to support them so.
37:55
Yeah, also low-key cringe. Honorable mention is when he
37:58
kisses Mama Corleone and her face is just like like hey Mama
38:03
actually gives her a kiss and she's like get this fucker away
38:06
from me, alright, I'm done. Takes a nap.
38:13
Alright, moving on to the next segment.
38:15
Classic or cancelled? Oht fuck, let me go first.
38:20
OK. OK, so this movie is obviously a
38:24
classic. It's known as one of the
38:26
greatest movies. Sleek sequels.
38:28
Goes without saying however, Michael has a girl at the
38:33
brothel murdered so he can gain leverage against Senator Pat
38:38
Geary. He basically drugs them both.
38:41
Has them both drugged like Bill Cosby.
38:46
You know it gives them the guy wakes up, doesn't remember.
38:48
She's an innocent. He misses Yeah, I mean, she's
38:51
she's a sex worker, but he murders a just an innocent girl.
38:55
And then Tom Higgins, like he shows that he's just like these
38:59
guys. He's fucking diabolical.
39:01
He's like nobody's going to remember this girl.
39:03
She it'll be like she never. Existed.
39:05
She has no family. Nobody knows she worked here
39:06
like Tom. That's that's a fucking person.
39:09
Jesus Christ. That's a character arc in this
39:11
one for sure. Tom Hagan.
39:13
This guy turns a new leaf in a bad way.
39:16
This movie I have I have some thoughts on Tom later, but yeah,
39:19
that that is a dark. So yeah, that that for me is
39:21
like the way that she's drugged, he's drugged and then just they
39:25
just fucking kill her, like just to gain leverage.
39:28
Crazy. Yeah, that's that's really
39:30
fucked up. Go ahead.
39:32
So much like the first movie, misogyny runs rampant in this
39:37
film. The patriarchy.
39:39
First of all, the female characters in the movie are
39:42
barely in it. Connie's barely in it.
39:44
Kay is barely in it. The women in the film tend to be
39:49
treated like children. In cases like Kay and Mama
39:53
Corleone, they're not really treated like partners to their
39:56
husbands. They're more treated like
39:57
children because their husbands consistently lie to them and
40:00
hide things from them. Yeah, in the case of Kay,
40:03
Michael lies to her about killing Carlo.
40:06
She's very upset about it, and he flat out lies her the way you
40:08
would a child. He lies about the family
40:12
becoming legit. She brings it up at the
40:14
beginning of the movie. They never become legit.
40:17
Yeah, he's trying though. He and Tom hold her captive on
40:20
the compound, grounding her there like a kid, and then
40:24
similarly in the flashbacks with Vito and Mama Corleone and Young
40:29
in their marriage when Vito gets past the package by through the
40:34
window. Yeah, Clemenza, Young Clemenza.
40:36
Yeah, young Clemenza passes him a package video, hides in the
40:39
bathroom and closes the door before opening the bag of guns.
40:44
Why no one else is there except your wife.
40:47
You're both adults. Well, he knows.
40:50
He he kind of knows and doesn't know what's going to be in the
40:53
bag. He doesn't want his wife to see.
40:55
What happens if she sees it? She's like, she's an adult.
40:58
Well, she's not a kid. She can see what's in the bag.
41:01
And then on top of that, he doesn't tell her when he loses
41:04
his job. He brings a pair home for her as
41:07
a treat, like you would a kid. Doesn't want to upset her.
41:11
Yeah. Like, though that scene is
41:13
sweet. It's.
41:14
Going to say it's one of the best, sweetest scenes in the.
41:17
Movie. It's very sweet, but it's not
41:18
good communication between a husband and a wife.
41:20
And I know I'm looking at this from a standpoint of modern
41:24
marriage. Yeah, you are severely.
41:26
Partners are supposed to support each other and go through trials
41:28
and and stuff together but he doesn't even tell her.
41:31
But do you know how like he doesn't tell you're not supposed
41:35
to. She's at home with the kids.
41:37
The the role of a man. But it's almost like she's in
41:40
another kid to him. He doesn't think of her as an
41:42
adult. So I agree with some of the
41:44
things you're saying. The misogyny part to some
41:46
degrees, but that's the characters.
41:49
It's about the mob. It's not about what happens.
41:52
It's not called the real Desperate Housewives of the Mob.
41:56
You know what I'm saying? I understand.
41:58
But like movie about mobsters to kill people.
42:00
The reason his marriage with Kay failed because he wasn't
42:03
treating her as an equal or a partner.
42:05
Of course not. He's a fucking gangster whose
42:08
main priority is who do I kill to keep power?
42:13
Yeah, but he is in love with her and if he had wanted to keep
42:15
their marriage going, he could have treated.
42:17
Her with more respect, but the part about, you know, young Vito
42:21
not showing his wife the guns, he doesn't know.
42:23
If you look at the scene again, he looks at the guns in the tub
42:26
and he's his hands on his chin. He doesn't know what to do.
42:30
He's he's stuck between a rock and a hard place.
42:32
He's like, do I help this guy? Do I not?
42:36
What happens if I don't? Does he come after my wife?
42:39
A lot of people would speak to their trusted wife about it.
42:42
What should I do? No, you don't in those days and
42:44
you get fucking fired. You don't come home and tell
42:46
your wife you go find another job because you don't want them
42:49
to. You don't want to be known as
42:51
the guy who can't provide. That's the problem.
42:54
I mean, it is an old school. It is saying, so I can kind of
42:58
understand that. But he's being the movie is very
43:00
misogynistic. I mean, whatever if you wanna
43:03
look at it, Michael. Demands Connie, not Mary Merle
43:06
Fredo. Fredo talks about how he can't
43:08
control his. Wife treats Tom Higgins like a
43:11
fucking piece of shit. OK, He's a man.
43:13
But Fredo also talks about how he can't control his wife.
43:15
Your control, Your wife sounded dog.
43:17
His wife's a fucking lunatic. Yeah, she's making out with a
43:20
guy on the dance floor at a communion party.
43:23
She is and she is out of control.
43:25
But you're not supposed to control a wife.
43:27
You're supposed to be equal partners with a wife.
43:29
So that's a little, that's a little bit bullshit.
43:32
That's a fucking read. You're talking about Fredo's
43:35
wife. Listen if somebody.
43:37
Needless to. Say, listen, if you were acting
43:39
a fool at a party and you were wasted, I would have to fucking
43:43
take control of the situation. Whether you call it misogynistic
43:47
or not. I'm not going to go up to a
43:48
drunk person and be like, could you just like keep it down?
43:52
OK, whatever, maybe that's a stretch, but there is a lot of
43:55
misogyny in this. Movie You tell me if this is
43:57
misogyny. Do you remember when we went to
44:00
your brother's wedding in Dominican and there was a
44:03
certain individual who was fucking wasted and throwing
44:06
glasses of wine at people and screaming at me and calling me a
44:15
racist even though I was only non white person at that?
44:19
Function shoes. Shoes.
44:20
Because I made a joke about the currency.
44:23
What happened? Did she was put in control by
44:27
her partner? Yes, because she was a fucking
44:29
lunatic. I thought he didn't, I thought.
44:32
She no, he grabbed her and manhandled her and I'm going to
44:35
use that term. He manhandled her to her hotel
44:38
room and put her to bed because she was trashed and she was
44:42
fucking basically throwing weaponizing glasses.
44:46
The security of the hotel had come.
44:49
So don't talk about misogyny. That's not misogyny.
44:51
That's somebody who's fucking nuts at the moment.
44:54
Fredo's wife. That's maybe a bad example, but
44:57
the rest of it, it's it's it's. Pretty young Vito bringing the
45:01
pair to his wife. It's showing that he's gonna
45:04
take care of it. You don't let her stress.
45:06
You don't let her worry. That's the, you know, like a lot
45:09
of women, like they want the chivalry.
45:12
And then when they do the chivalry, you call it misogyny.
45:15
Like you can't have it both ways.
45:17
I just think he could have said I lost my job, but I'm going to
45:20
go and get another job. We're going to be OK.
45:22
That's all you have to. Say, but that's to bring her in.
45:24
She's like, my wife's not gonna worry cause I'm gonna tell.
45:27
I'm not gonna tell her and I'm not even going to give her a
45:30
moment to worry. I'm going to come home.
45:32
We're going to eat dinner. That's fucking, that's, that's
45:34
real manly. That's that's old school, man.
45:37
Fair enough. In the day that was fine, but
45:39
I'm just saying in today's day, you know?
45:42
In today's day, I mean, it's a different world, but a lot of
45:45
men would still not tell their wife.
45:47
They would go and pretend that they work, and then they would
45:50
go find another. Job so dishonest.
45:54
Well, there's shame, there's embarrassments.
45:57
Like it's not about being misogynistic.
45:59
It's about. Self.
46:00
I'm just saying I value once. I value honesty.
46:02
For sure, but it's about self worth for the man.
46:05
You don't feel like a man if you cannot.
46:07
Prove that doesn't mean you have to lie.
46:09
No, but you don't feel like a man if you cannot provide.
46:12
Fair enough. And you don't want your family
46:14
to feel like you cannot provide. Fair enough, but it's not about
46:18
you have to tell people what's going on, alright?
46:21
You can't just keep them in the dark.
46:22
But the freedom wife thing, that's a fucking.
46:24
Reach. OK, maybe that was a bit, maybe
46:25
that was a bit far. Let's move on to party like it's
46:30
2026. OK, I can't believe you went for
46:33
the freedom life thing. I'm like, yeah, well, just cause
46:36
like crazy. Just cause he says I can't
46:37
control a mic. Yeah it sound like you don't
46:40
need to control her. You need to maybe pick a better
46:43
partner. Yeah, if you're going to be in
46:45
these scenarios with a drunk asshole.
46:47
The patriarchies fault. Party like it's 2026, so I think
46:53
if this film was made today, they would focus a lot more on
46:57
the Michael Corleone storyline and the veto storyline would be
47:00
shorter. Look, I gotta go.
47:02
I got I need a towel. I'm sweating after that one.
47:04
But the the the the misogyny topic that was heated doesn't.
47:08
Maybe you're messing up. You gotta move on.
47:10
You're eating into my 2026 now. John, control me now.
47:14
Yeah, I'm trying to control you. OK, Should I start it?
47:17
Over. Yeah, sorry, I was trying to be
47:18
funny. Alright, next segment is a
47:21
party, like it's 2026. OK, so I think that if the film
47:24
was made today, they would focus a lot more on the Michael
47:27
Corleone storyline and the Vito storyline would be shorter.
47:31
Though I personally love the veto storyline and I think they
47:35
would also delve more into Fredo emotionally.
47:40
We get like a few glimpses of it, but he doesn't really fully
47:44
explain himself. He doesn't explain why he was
47:46
mad at Michael, he doesn't fully explain his feelings and I think
47:50
in a modern film we would explore that a little bit more.
47:53
It's a little bit like it's pretty obvious what's happening.
47:56
I don't know. But yeah, you're right.
47:57
They could have delved into it a bit more.
47:59
But the the problem with that is they cannot.
48:02
I mean, I feel for Fredo in this movie.
48:04
If you humanize them anymore than already.
48:08
I mean, if you don't hate Michael poorly owned by the end
48:11
of the movie or even midway year, there's something wrong
48:15
with. You.
48:15
They already heavily humanized Fredo.
48:17
No I know, but talking about him delving into things more would
48:21
just humanize them even more. The crowd would the the the
48:24
audience would be on his side 100%.
48:27
We we still have to feel like he betrayed him.
48:30
You know? We can't be on Fredo side too
48:32
much. Yeah, I just feel like in modern
48:35
films, like we like in the 70s, you might not necessarily
48:38
address emotional distress as much is as it is addressed
48:42
today. Yeah, that's true.
48:44
I mean, like I said, if you don't hate Michael by halfway
48:46
through the movie, there's something with you.
48:48
And that's my opinion. He's he's terrible.
48:51
Yeah, so it feels 2026. I think Hyman Roth would have
48:55
been Silicon Valley Titan. That's what it is.
48:58
The big, the big chunk of his money would be in because, you
49:01
know, it's more modern. The Senate hearing would have
49:04
been live streamed would have been on YouTube.
49:08
And people were watching on their phones on the on the
49:10
subway. And there would be no shots of
49:13
the the baby wieners, which was kind of sauce.
49:16
Yeah. There's a few baby winners,
49:18
there's like 2 of them. The scene where Alfredo has
49:21
pneumonia and they're like first of all, what the fuck are they
49:23
doing? They're like lighting a lighting
49:26
a candle. Opening up his lungs so he can
49:29
breathe, I think. That's some holistic.
49:30
Shit no, that's old school. What do you think Vicks vapo rub
49:33
does? It's the.
49:33
Same thing. Anyway, in that scene it shows
49:35
his Weiner a lot and it's they don't do that anymore.
49:38
They don't show baby wieners cause I think it's
49:40
inappropriate. They don't show real weiners.
49:42
Also there didn't he could have been wearing a.
49:44
Diaper grown man wieners. He could.
49:46
Have been wearing a diaper. Why is his Wiener out?
49:48
It's the 70s. It's weird, but yeah, that, that
49:52
thing on the chest, the little, the bulb with the heat, that's
49:56
real. That's the real thing.
49:57
I'm sure it's real, but it felt like some kind of ritual.
50:00
That's very misogynistic. OK, so recasting I would for
50:06
Michael, I'm thinking Timothy Chalamet, Paul Mescal.
50:12
They both have that intensity and ability to like, look
50:16
completely hollowed out. Yeah, but Timothy Shalomi looks
50:19
too much like a child. He couldn't play Michael
50:21
Corleone. It depends if you dress them up
50:24
a bit. Young Vito.
50:25
I'm thinking Austin Butler. Their cabrio for that.
50:30
I know that there is talk of young Vito being yeah, I know
50:33
there was talk of him being Michael Corleone.
50:35
But honestly, I think he could have done like in the in
50:38
Titanic, he looks he fits so well into like the early 1900s
50:42
like. It would have had to been like
50:44
Titanic Leo age though. Yeah, I'm putting these people
50:48
at the age that they would need to be because for Michael, I
50:51
want, I want Killian Murphy, but obviously it can't be modern
50:54
day. Killian Murphy would be.
50:56
It would be alright, yeah. Yeah, because he has like an
50:59
intensity and with the blue eyes, like they could work that
51:02
in. Like he's a blue eyed Italian.
51:04
Like I think he has like such a presence.
51:07
Well, the, well, the thing with Michael Corleone or Al Pacino
51:10
playing Michael Corleone is he's shorter than everybody, but he
51:15
commands like severe attention. Like he's very intimidating in
51:19
this. Yeah, he's still looms large,
51:21
even though he's small. Yeah.
51:23
There's, I know, Kilian's tall. But the scene where one thing I
51:27
noticed this time watching it this time was when Michaels
51:31
arguing with Kay and she's like, I'm going to leave you.
51:34
He takes a sip of water and his fucking hand is shaking because
51:39
he's so angry. It's terrifying.
51:41
And you had an audible gasp when she told him it was an abortion.
51:46
I heard. I I heard you.
51:47
There was like, And you didn't gasp because of what she said.
51:50
You gasped because of his reaction.
51:52
Yeah. He was like he was burning holes
51:54
through her head. As his eyes are bulging out of
51:57
his head. It's it's crazy.
52:00
Yeah. There's there's no question that
52:01
he's the perfect casting. But I could see Killian Murphy
52:04
for Tom Hagan. I actually think Michael
52:06
Fassbender would have made a good Tom Hagan.
52:10
Yeah, Actually take away the accent.
52:12
I think he could. He has, I think he would have a
52:14
similar presence because he does have like that kind of that
52:16
calm, gentle. Jeremy Strong as Tom Hagan.
52:21
Who's that? Jeremy Strong is in the Big
52:25
Short and he's in the show Succession.
52:29
You you'll know exactly who he is when you see him, but he he's
52:33
been coming up in the last few years really good.
52:36
OK, He was great in the Big Short.
52:38
He was one of the investor guys. OK, I wanted Sam Rockwell as
52:43
Fredo, but young Sam Rockwell. He's not pathetic enough.
52:46
In Three, in the Three Billboards movie, he's like,
52:49
he's kind of slimy. And I think you could channel
52:52
that energy to be Frado. It would be like a it would be
52:56
less of a week Fredo and more of a dirtbag Fredo.
53:01
I got Barry Keoghan for Fredo, you know that.
53:04
Is ohe yeah Sabrina Carpenter's ex.
53:06
Boyfriend. Yeah, he's got that like, wormy
53:08
kind of look. He was in that movie.
53:10
What the hell was it? The freaky movie where there's a
53:12
bunch of rich people? Saltburn.
53:14
Yeah, yeah, he he could do, Yeah, because he did kind of
53:17
have a little bit of like a week a weakness.
53:19
I could see him betraying people.
53:22
Yeah. Oh yeah, definitely.
53:24
And then I kind of have like a crazy one.
53:26
I want Anne Hathaway to be Kay. Oh yeah.
53:29
I think she could do it. She could piss people off.
53:32
Well, I know you don't like her. But no, I I don't dislike her, I
53:36
just. I really like her, I think.
53:37
She's quite her. She's beautiful.
53:39
Sometimes she's kind of like, yeah, sometimes she's really
53:42
good in movies. Well, she was great in
53:44
Interstellar. She she's also done lighter
53:47
roles, but she can play dramatic roles as well.
53:49
And I think like as the as the mother role, I think she would
53:53
come into it really, really easily.
53:56
Put solid choices. OK, can you watch this with your
53:59
parents? Yeah, I'd say you can.
54:03
It's it's an amazing movie for a family night.
54:05
Yeah. You just have to brace yourself
54:07
for a couple scenes. The dead hooker scene is, it's
54:11
upsetting and it's sexual, so it's kind of hard.
54:14
It's because he talks about they're playing a game like it's
54:16
kind of uncomfortable. And then also the scene at the
54:20
sex show in Havana could be awkward.
54:22
In front of parents? Superman, the guy with the
54:24
schlong. Yeah, the guy like ends up his
54:26
his his robe to show off his Weiner.
54:30
You don't see it, but you know what's happening, so it could be
54:32
a little uncomfortable. With parents.
54:34
So it's more of a can you watch this with your parents?
54:36
Yes. Should you watch this with your
54:38
parents? Probably not.
54:39
The only scenes that you you could watch would be the
54:43
flashback scenes because you know, you see it's not that
54:46
graphic. I mean, except for the new
54:48
cheese part. It's not that uncomfortable to
54:50
watch with parents, it's just there's some scenes that are a
54:53
little bit sexual. Can we talk about Vito's friend,
54:56
the guy who's not the the play and he's all obsessed with this
55:00
girl, and then Fanucci's got a fucking knife to her eye.
55:03
And Carbone, the guy from Goodfellas.
55:06
Yeah, that guy's a pussy. And he's like, let's get the
55:08
fuck outta here. It's like, bro, the guy's about
55:10
to slice your girl up. He gave no fucks.
55:12
Yeah, but it shows when they were sitting in the opera, like,
55:15
you don't fuck with the Black Hand for sure.
55:17
He was like, Oh my. God, but he really was talking
55:19
about this girl and then all of a sudden he's like, let's get
55:22
the fuck. Out of here after they run away,
55:23
still talking about he's like, well isn't she beautiful?
55:25
Though I know like. Yo dude, if she knew you just
55:28
stood by while she was still. Respect to that guy.
55:31
I forget his name. The actor, fuck I should have
55:33
wrote it down. But the guy who plays Carbone in
55:36
Goodfellas and he's in Godfather Part 2 and he he's with Deniro
55:41
and both movies and now he has a cooking show or a cooking
55:45
channel on YouTube. He does Italian meals.
55:48
So random it it's really popular.
55:51
The most random thing I've ever. Really popular so good for him.
55:54
So you favorite and least favorite supporting character?
55:57
Do you wanna? Go.
55:58
I have some controversial ones. Here.
56:00
Oh shit. OK, let's hear it.
56:02
So my favorite in Godfather Part 2 supporting character is
56:07
actually Fredo. I had a feeling you were gonna
56:09
pick. Fredo.
56:10
The reason I picked Fredo is because we see him, you know, he
56:15
worked in Vegas with the casinos, with Moe Green, Mo
56:17
Green gets killed, yadda yadda yadda.
56:19
But in the second movie, in the second movie, he's got a lot
56:23
more lines. You can tell that he's really
56:26
trying to appease and impress his brother Michael, who's
56:30
actually younger than him, and he's trying to show that he has
56:35
the chops to do what it takes and blah, blah, blah and get get
56:39
it done. And I the scene with his wife is
56:42
kind of upsetting because Fredo's kind of, you know, he's
56:46
not, he's more passive. His wife is being freaking
56:50
tools. She's drunk, embarrassing
56:52
herself, embarrassing him. So you feel bad for Fredo there.
56:57
The scene where he comes to Cuba and he's sitting with Michael at
57:00
that cafe and he orders the banana daiquiri and he's talking
57:05
to Michael and he's like. Yeah, they like Snuggle.
57:07
And he's like, why didn't we do this sooner?
57:09
Why could we do this sooner like you see that there's.
57:11
He feels close to he feels. Close to him and he's the
57:15
counterweight. In this movie, there is a line,
57:18
and Fredo is that line. And Michael crosses that line
57:22
with Fredo by killing him at the end, and he goes into full dark
57:26
mode. Pure evil.
57:28
Yeah. And Fredo is the one that's
57:30
holding back. Tom Haggen's not doing it.
57:32
Tom Haggen's not involved. And when he gets involved, he's
57:34
just as evil. He fucking kills that.
57:37
The girl at the brothel. They, you know, Fredo wasn't
57:40
involved with that. He was just told we're going to
57:42
do this at your brothel and that's it.
57:44
He was, it was just as surely was weak.
57:48
He didn't stand up to yeah, but. Anybody.
57:49
Fredo would have been like, yeah, sure, let's kill this girl
57:52
with my brother. It's just gonna happen.
57:54
He has no say in the matter, you know what I'm saying?
57:56
Well, another sad thing about the Fredo character.
57:58
That actor actually is is dead now.
58:01
RIP. He was Meryl Streep's one true
58:04
love and then he died of cancer and she has said that that he
58:07
was her one true love. Yeah, he's a great actor.
58:10
He's a dog. Day afternoon with Pacino.
58:12
Yeah, he's a disturbing character in that.
58:14
One and then you know he's fishing with Michael son.
58:18
He's being a really good uncle and you know, the ending scene
58:22
is just fucking heart wrenching. It is heart wrenching.
58:26
My favorite supporting characters.
58:28
Tom Hagan. Have you just talked all that
58:30
shit at him? It wasn't mine last time.
58:32
And Clemenza. Wasn't.
58:33
Clemenza. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:35
He's a measured, calm, intelligent person among a bunch
58:40
of vengeful emotional assholes. He's the only one who keeps a
58:44
cool head and thinks about everyone's best interest and
58:47
business above emotion. We see Michael, Pay Fredo,
58:52
Connie all lead with their emotions in this movie and be
58:56
hateful towards each other. Actually, yeah, but not Tom.
59:00
He's he's he's very level headed, which is heavily needed
59:03
in this movie with with the with the emotional people.
59:06
Yeah, but also he lost a lot of hair in two years.
59:10
Well, you work a full head of hair in 1970. 2 So I don't blame
59:14
him. Yeah, he has a full head of hair
59:15
in 19721974 gone. Yeah, complete cul-de-sac.
59:20
It's been several years, though in the movie it's only two.
59:23
Two years between movies have been filmed.
59:25
Yeah, but what the fuck happened to his hair?
59:29
It fell out. In two years.
59:31
No, it wasn't two years. No, I know it's supposed to be
59:34
over several years, but yeah, in the in actual real life.
59:37
No, in the first two years later in the first movie had a hair
59:39
piece. It's obvious.
59:41
How did? He, yeah, he had a hair piece in
59:43
the first movie. And then at the end of the first
59:45
movie, Michael son is like basically a baby.
59:48
Remember, he's in his lap. He, he's playing with the the
59:50
Godfather and he dies in the playing with the oranges.
59:54
And then this movie he's, he's like almost 9 or 10 years old.
59:58
So it's been several years. No, I know that it's been
1:00:01
several years. I just like thought like in real
1:00:03
life. Why are you bald shaming?
1:00:07
I'm not as it was shocking because he had a full head of
1:00:09
hair in the first movie. Yeah, he's really good in this.
1:00:12
I just didn't pick him again because I felt his character
1:00:16
took a back seat to a lot of different characters.
1:00:20
He was. Basically did.
1:00:22
He's like, he's a shadowy in the corner observing in a lot of
1:00:25
scenes, but that's his character.
1:00:27
He's always there and he's quietly listening.
1:00:30
You see the gears in his head turning because he's so smart,
1:00:33
but he's not. He's not front and centre and he
1:00:36
doesn't need to be. Yeah, when he's on screen,
1:00:39
you're you're like watching him. But when he's.
1:00:41
Off. You definitely notice him when
1:00:42
he's on. Screen.
1:00:43
I think it could have used them more in this movie to be honest.
1:00:45
They they could have but I mean they didn't want him
1:00:47
overshadowing Al Pacino cause he had.
1:00:49
To really, Michael fucking treats him like garbage in this
1:00:53
and it's weird how he treats him like garbage.
1:00:55
It just shows how evil Michael becomes.
1:00:57
Yeah, but I'll talk about that shortly.
1:01:00
Lee's favorite supporting character honestly is Kay, my
1:01:05
least favorite, and I'll tell you why.
1:01:07
You're coming for OK. No, no, I'll tell you why I
1:01:11
don't like the character because the acting by Diane Keaton is so
1:01:15
good. She is very unlikable in this
1:01:18
movie. You knew exactly what you were
1:01:21
getting into, marrying this fucking guy.
1:01:24
She was a teacher. Michael fucking went to Italy.
1:01:28
He left. You were standing there holding
1:01:31
the candle on him. He comes back.
1:01:34
I'm back. I've been back a year.
1:01:37
We'd be. We belong together.
1:01:39
She fucking marries him, has kids.
1:01:42
You knew exactly what you were getting into.
1:01:44
He told you the story about Luca Brazzi and Johnny Fontaine.
1:01:49
Like I'll make you an offer, you refuse.
1:01:51
You know exactly what you're getting into, and now you have
1:01:55
all this fucking money, you're rich, your husband's fucking
1:01:58
warlord, basically dawn of all these mobs and you guys have all
1:02:03
this power and now you're unhappy.
1:02:07
She is very naive because, like, at the end of the first movie,
1:02:10
she's like, you didn't kill Carlo, did you?
1:02:12
And he's like, no, I didn't know.
1:02:13
I would never do that. And she does believe him until
1:02:16
the door closes. So I think that she was kind of
1:02:19
being willfully ignorant and being a little bit naive.
1:02:22
But Kay is a sympathetic character because she has
1:02:25
humanity. She's one of the few characters
1:02:28
who has humanity. Yes I agree but she's highly
1:02:33
unlikable in this movie. I find she's very.
1:02:37
Unlike the abortion scene makes her unlikable, but other than
1:02:39
that she's barely in the freaking movie.
1:02:41
No, forget the abortion scene. This guy just went to a Senate
1:02:44
hearing. He might go to jail for the rest
1:02:46
of his life. Your kids, everything will be
1:02:49
ruined. The Senate hearing just
1:02:51
finished. You're going to break it to him
1:02:53
that you're leaving him now. Waited for it to be over because
1:02:56
she was like, if he goes to prison, I don't have to do this.
1:02:58
Yeah, it's a shitty situation, but you fucking, you know, don't
1:03:03
give me that buyers remorse bullshit.
1:03:05
And it's not because Diane Keaton's bad or something or I
1:03:08
hate the character. The character is played so well.
1:03:11
I think she's meant to be highly unlikable in this movie.
1:03:14
And you know, it's funny, the abortion thing, that was Talia
1:03:18
Shire's idea. It originally it was written
1:03:20
that she would say that it was just a miscarriage.
1:03:23
But Talia Shire said if you tell Michael that it was an abortion,
1:03:28
he'll fucking hate you forever. I'm gonna change.
1:03:33
I'll change. I've learned that I have the
1:03:36
strength to change. And you'll forget about this
1:03:40
miscarriage, and we'll have another child.
1:03:45
And we'll go on. You and I, we'll go on.
1:03:52
OHP Michael. Michael, you are blind.
1:03:58
It wasn't a miscarriage. It was an abortion.
1:04:06
And abortion, Michael, just like our marriage is an abortion,
1:04:12
something that's unholy and evil.
1:04:18
I didn't want your son, Michael. I wouldn't bring another one of
1:04:22
your sons into this world. It was an abortion, Michael.
1:04:29
It was a son. A son.
1:04:31
And I had it kill because this must all end.
1:04:36
I know now that it's over. I knew it then.
1:04:42
There would be no way, Michael, no way you could ever forgive
1:04:46
me. Not with this Sicilian thing
1:04:50
that's been going on for 2000 years.
1:05:00
You won't take my parents. You won't take my children.
1:05:05
You're much. And they they put it in the
1:05:08
movie. Well, that was a great idea
1:05:10
because it's it's a shocking scene and it also he would hate.
1:05:14
It comes out of left field. It does.
1:05:16
Really doesn't cross your mind that.
1:05:18
She's like, you're so blind you didn't even realize what I did.
1:05:21
Yeah, she's very unlikable. Like she's happy to tell him.
1:05:24
Like he's telling her I'm gonna change, I'm gonna do this, I'm
1:05:27
gonna do that. And she's like laughing in his
1:05:29
face, saying you're so blind. She wants out.
1:05:32
At that point, she's like you're, you're a vengeful.
1:05:34
Hateful. And then he's like, OK, here,
1:05:36
you get out. I keep the kids.
1:05:38
Here's the door. Shuts the door on her face.
1:05:40
I kind of, yeah. I I've I've sympathy for her
1:05:43
character, but if I was her I would have.
1:05:44
Just said yeah, you stay, stay with him.
1:05:47
It was. Surprisingly, she gets to be
1:05:48
with your kids and you have all the money in the world.
1:05:50
Just say what happened to all that misogyny, dog.
1:05:54
If I'm just saying it was me because I wouldn't want to be
1:05:56
separated from my kids. Miley's favorite character is
1:06:00
Frankie. 5 Angels. Oh, he's so good in this.
1:06:03
I know, but he's loud, he's annoying, he's stupid.
1:06:06
He brings that old school sunny hot head vibe, you know?
1:06:09
Well, yeah, but yeah, but he almost portrays the the family
1:06:11
and courts not even never do that.
1:06:13
Well, that yeah, that's true. But he thinks that he was
1:06:16
betrayed by Michael. The only scene where he is calm
1:06:18
and doesn't seem like an imbecile is when Tom visits him
1:06:21
in custody and they have a metaphorical discussion about
1:06:25
living within the Roman Empire and if a soldier kills himself,
1:06:28
his family will be taken care of.
1:06:31
Hey, they went home and sat in the hot bath, opened up their
1:06:38
names and lead to death, and sometimes they had a little
1:06:45
party before they did it. Don't worry about anything.
1:06:54
Frankie 5. Minutes.
1:06:57
Thanks, Tom. Thanks.
1:07:00
Other than that, this asshole is getting drunk spilling wine.
1:07:04
He's drunk drinking out of a hose, Yeah.
1:07:07
And screaming funny. And screaming at Michael for not
1:07:10
allowing him to murder the Rosato brothers like he's he's
1:07:13
annoying. Yeah, he's old school.
1:07:16
And The thing is, he's in this movie only because they couldn't
1:07:20
get Clemenza back, and it really pisses me off.
1:07:24
Clemenza would have been better, yeah.
1:07:25
Way better in real life. The guy who plays Clemenza
1:07:29
wanted to be in this movie. He had lost a bunch of weight.
1:07:33
Coppola told him you need to gain the weight back, and he
1:07:36
said no. He's like, why can't Clemenza
1:07:39
just have lost? Weight Clemenza could be skinny.
1:07:41
And also he said he wanted to write his own lines and for he
1:07:45
said I'll be in the movie as long as I could write my own
1:07:47
lines. And Coppola told them go fuck
1:07:48
yourself. So they killed him.
1:07:50
Can't affect you can't affect the scripture kill.
1:07:52
Him off, he was such a big part in the first movie and.
1:07:55
Killed himself off and you know the unreasonable.
1:07:57
Demands line for leave the gun. Take the cannoli, which is
1:08:01
fucking iconic. Let the guy write some lines.
1:08:03
Yeah, let him write some. He can't write all of his own
1:08:06
lines. You have a script.
1:08:07
Yeah. And he's like, you have to lose
1:08:10
all this. You have to gain all the weight
1:08:11
back that you lost. So anyways, they killed them
1:08:13
off. They made them have some kind of
1:08:14
a heart attack. It's his own fault that he got
1:08:16
killed. Off I disagree.
1:08:18
No, because Coppola does fucked up shit in the third movie too,
1:08:22
which I don't like. Which you haven't even.
1:08:24
Seen no. If Clemenza really wanted to be
1:08:26
in the movie, he could have played along.
1:08:28
He's still my. Favorite character from the
1:08:29
first movie made 2 great movies but he made some fucking bad
1:08:32
services. Alright, fair enough.
1:08:34
I won't tell you what happens in the third one, the Coppola
1:08:38
decided. Anyway I could tell you.
1:08:41
What is that? What?
1:08:42
Tom-tom Higgins on the third movie.
1:08:44
Did they kill him off? Yeah.
1:08:46
Do you know why he wanted 5 million?
1:08:50
They said no. He is fucking crucial to this
1:08:54
whole story about Michael and the family.
1:08:58
Has to be in it. He's not.
1:09:00
Well, maybe that's why the third movie is known.
1:09:02
As it's known to be terrible, Yeah.
1:09:04
And it's Coppola's decision. He's like, they don't, they
1:09:08
don't want to pay him. Like, OK, go fuck yourself.
1:09:11
You don't pay Robert Duvall. I read that Coppola didn't even
1:09:14
wanna direct this. He actually asked Martin
1:09:16
Scorsese to do it. He.
1:09:17
Did and then. He did the the studio was like,
1:09:20
no, absolutely not. Scorsese was like, no, it's too
1:09:23
much pressure. He's throughout the studio,
1:09:26
said. No, Scorsese was like, I'm not
1:09:28
doing this. It's way too much pressure.
1:09:29
You kidding me? You want me to fucking do the
1:09:30
sequel to The Godfather? The only person that could have
1:09:34
done it with some semblance of confidence would be Coppola, and
1:09:38
he did a good job, don't get me wrong.
1:09:40
Alright, fair enough. Yeah, they needed the blundering
1:09:42
Frankie 5 Angels to go against the family.
1:09:44
But I liked his character and the guy was nominated for an
1:09:47
Oscar for his role in this. No, he was good.
1:09:49
I he's just my least favorite character.
1:09:51
Yeah, the acting is great and he's and he's crucial to the.
1:09:54
Storyline. He is obnoxious.
1:09:55
Yeah, he's annoying. Cultural impact.
1:09:59
So reviewers say The Godfather Part 2 is acclaimed for its
1:10:04
narrative structure. It's interesting how they
1:10:07
intertwine Vito and Michael Corleone's stories, and Robert
1:10:12
De Niro and Al Pacino received high praise for their
1:10:14
performances. The film is celebrated for how
1:10:19
impressive it is. Yes.
1:10:23
A few find it slower paced and less engaging than the first
1:10:26
movie, but overall it is regarded as an amazing film.
1:10:31
It's funny how it's slower than the first one and then you show
1:10:34
the first one some people and they go wow this is old timey.
1:10:37
It's like slow but if you compare it to the second it's
1:10:40
fucking lightning. The paces are different and this
1:10:43
one could be like. Like I said earlier, a lot of
1:10:46
people think that the flashbacks are too slow, but I think it's
1:10:49
so important to the story. I agree.
1:10:51
It's regarded as perhaps the greatest sequel ever made, and
1:10:54
it's a benchmark in filmmaking, influencing generations of crime
1:10:59
dramas like The Sopranos, like Goodfellas.
1:11:02
Yeah, pretty much similar things that we said about.
1:11:04
The first movie Dominic Cheneys, who's in this Johnny Ola.
1:11:08
He's Uncle, Uncle Junior and. Yeah, there's a lot of crossover
1:11:13
with with. You guys.
1:11:16
In this yeah. And it it it, it did influence
1:11:18
like we talked about that a lot with the first movie, influence
1:11:21
for further movies because it really is kind of like a long,
1:11:24
the whole like the whole Godfather franchise at this
1:11:27
point was like kind of 1 long movie.
1:11:29
And much like the first movie, it critiques the American Dream,
1:11:32
but we see it in a very different light.
1:11:35
So we're seeing Veto starting off poor and trying to make it
1:11:39
in a respectable way. And it isn't until he turns to
1:11:42
crime, that and violence that he really experiences success.
1:11:47
So the film is really saying, like, living a good legal
1:11:50
lifestyle will get you nowhere. And the black hands and older
1:11:55
Vito Corleone live comfortably while the law abiding in the
1:11:58
film are pushed around. They're forced to pay, forced to
1:12:01
pay more for protection and controlled with threats of
1:12:05
violence if they don't comply. Like the grocer, the black hand
1:12:09
just goes in. He's like, I have a nephew that
1:12:10
needs a job. So go ahead and fire veto.
1:12:12
It's it really, it kind of puts this black mark on coming to
1:12:18
America as an immigrant at that time.
1:12:20
Yeah. And how hard it was to make it
1:12:22
in an honest way. Yeah.
1:12:24
Which is why it shows veto in this film turned to crime
1:12:27
because it's the only way he can make a living.
1:12:29
There's a lot of stories like that.
1:12:31
You know, the system fucks people over and they do
1:12:34
everything the right way and they just get fucked over over
1:12:38
and over and over. And then they just snap.
1:12:40
One day they're just like, you know what?
1:12:42
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna manipulate the system.
1:12:45
I'm gonna twist it in my favor. And, you know, sometimes you're
1:12:49
like, you know what? It's the only way out.
1:12:52
For a lot of people, that was a true, real experience for some
1:12:54
people, and they reflected it in the film because it's it's like
1:12:57
it's a commentary. On It happens today.
1:12:59
It's a commentary on life as an immigrant in some ways.
1:13:03
I agree. My gut for cultural impact.
1:13:06
You know, the flashbacks in a movie, it's never been done
1:13:10
before. This was the first time it had
1:13:12
been done and the studio was so paranoid that people, the
1:13:16
audience would be confused. So that's when I mentioned
1:13:20
earlier that they took out a lot of the flashbacks because it was
1:13:24
going back and forth back and. Forth, it's so obvious because
1:13:26
it's old timey, the music changes for the flashback.
1:13:29
It was. It was very unknown for the 70s
1:13:32
like that never happened. It's almost all in Italian.
1:13:35
Yeah, people were like, what the fuck, you know, Yeah.
1:13:37
And it was all in Italian, so people were confused as hell.
1:13:41
So this was one of the 1st movies that have done that.
1:13:44
Also one of the 1st movies that took a character from the first
1:13:48
movie and made them younger in the second.
1:13:52
That was another first. Yeah, I like that.
1:13:54
Like we get to know Vito better without him, actually without,
1:13:57
you know, seeing Marlon Brando, the older Veto.
1:14:00
And this almost kind of may have led to the kind of Tarantino
1:14:04
type filmmaking where they they start to break rules of
1:14:07
traditional storytelling. Just out of like chronological
1:14:10
order. Yeah, like we we know that Vito
1:14:13
is they. They say you're not supposed to
1:14:15
show a character once you know how they die.
1:14:18
Yeah, because in film, as in life, people can die at any
1:14:23
minute. But we know how Vito dies.
1:14:25
So when we're watching him in the flashbacks, we know he can't
1:14:27
die. I wonder if this is like the
1:14:29
first prequel or first version of a prequel.
1:14:33
I doubt it, because it seems a little heavy-handed to say that.
1:14:36
I don't recall. Any other I could see it being
1:14:39
the first time flashbacks were so heavily used.
1:14:42
And it is unique in the way that they use it.
1:14:44
You don't really see that in any other movie really.
1:14:46
It's very unique. So you know the fishing scene at
1:14:50
the end where Fredo gets executed?
1:14:52
That's been spoofed a million times.
1:14:56
I feel like the first movie is spoofed a lot more than.
1:14:58
The second, I think there's a spoof of the the execution scene
1:15:02
in South Park. I can't remember exactly how it
1:15:05
happens. The kiss of death that has been
1:15:07
spoofed everywhere. Was in The Simpsons.
1:15:09
Yeah, it was in The Simpsons. The Don energy white suit
1:15:13
walking around. The town.
1:15:14
Oh yeah, In How I Met Your Mother, they have.
1:15:16
Signs as well and How I Met Your Mother.
1:15:18
Yeah. So there's a lot of cultural
1:15:21
impact. I wouldn't say it's Godfather
1:15:23
one versus 2, the whole Godfather like trilogy.
1:15:28
It has a culture impact. There's still quotes in the
1:15:30
third one that are said to this day.
1:15:33
And people don't like the third one generally.
1:15:37
I think it's aged well. The third movie, if you watch it
1:15:40
now, it's a lot better than people say it was.
1:15:42
But these quotes? And that too.
1:15:44
Yeah, you've said that. Those quotes in that movie that
1:15:47
people still say now? Yeah, but in terms of parodies,
1:15:50
I think the first movie is the one where you'll see it the
1:15:52
most. Yeah, yeah, for.
1:15:53
Sure, in in cases with most movies it's like that.
1:15:57
Soundtrack. I mean, it's pretty much the
1:16:01
same thing as the first movie. Jimmy Award for best original
1:16:06
score though. Yeah.
1:16:07
It blends nostalgic Italian immigrant melodies with dark
1:16:10
emotional themes to mix the the flashbacks of Vito to the
1:16:15
current day scenes with Michael. Who gets to spin off?
1:16:20
Wait, you had a new segment you wanted to introduce?
1:16:22
Location, location location. Oh, yeah, yes, yes, you're
1:16:27
right. Thank you for saving that.
1:16:28
So location, location, location is a segment that I thought of
1:16:34
recently because some movies, they go to a country or a
1:16:37
certain place or a certain location, obviously, and you
1:16:42
basically pick the best location in the film.
1:16:45
So it can be a country, it can be inside of a building, it
1:16:50
could be a specific room, it could be anything, it could be
1:16:54
inside of a car. So you you just pick what you
1:16:58
think is the most epic or best location in that movie.
1:17:02
So do you have one? Yeah, mines the Havana Hotel.
1:17:06
The Havana Hotel. The hotel, there's no, the hotel
1:17:09
they're staying in like they, they go to the room and Hyman
1:17:13
Roth and Michael are talking OHP.
1:17:14
There's like billowing drapes, their 70s furniture.
1:17:17
It feels very ritzy and rich. And this was obviously before
1:17:21
the downfall of Cuba. So I think it was probably a
1:17:23
really nice staying there at that time.
1:17:25
Like I want to stay there at that.
1:17:26
Time downfall or the the revolution Because a lot of
1:17:30
people would disagree with you. Well, yeah, but like, they had
1:17:33
this falling out with the US So if you go to Cuba now, a lot of
1:17:37
the furniture you see is still from the 70s.
1:17:40
The cars are old. Yeah, it's different.
1:17:42
It's. Yeah.
1:17:43
I wouldn't call any of the hotels ritzy or rich now, but at
1:17:46
that time they were very fancy. So I want to go stay there at
1:17:50
that time. Sure, fair enough.
1:17:54
Any location. Location would be again with the
1:17:57
same scene, Michael talking to Fredo and the Sunroom.
1:18:00
That is a very impactful scene. But if you look at the backdrop,
1:18:03
it's kind. Of beautiful.
1:18:05
It's beautiful. It's, yeah, it's a snowy day in
1:18:07
Nevada. You can see the water on the
1:18:09
lake and you see the snow falling.
1:18:12
But they're in the sunroom. They're comfortable.
1:18:15
They're warm sitting on, you know, patio furniture.
1:18:19
It's just, it's a, it's a very, it's a very beautiful shot.
1:18:23
And I don't know, they timed it to be filmed in winter time, but
1:18:28
it was just very. Nice.
1:18:29
I think everything in this film is very intentional, so it
1:18:32
probably was. But yeah, that the home, the
1:18:35
compound is very beautiful. Yeah, he.
1:18:38
Likes it both. Films stage in his backyard.
1:18:40
Well, in both films, they live in beautiful places.
1:18:42
That place you live on the water in the first movie that the
1:18:45
gorgeous backyard for it's huge for the big wedding.
1:18:47
Yeah. So it's, you know, they're rich,
1:18:49
so they live in beautiful mansions.
1:18:51
For sure. So who gets to spin off?
1:18:53
I think this is, you're probably going to say the same thing.
1:18:56
It's I Wanna Hyman Roth spin-off.
1:18:58
Oht really. Yeah, I wanna see how he makes
1:19:01
his 300 million. He's so rich.
1:19:03
He's so revered. Yeah, I think Hyman Roth is an
1:19:06
interesting character. I like his show relationship
1:19:08
with his wife. I think they have a very cool,
1:19:11
unique relationship. And I'd like to see his life of
1:19:14
crime storyline. I'd like to see it all go down.
1:19:17
And Veto could be a supporting. Character I'd see him and Moe
1:19:20
Green doing Las Vegas. That would be part of.
1:19:22
It that would be kind of. Cool, that would be part of it.
1:19:24
Yeah, which is another Model Green spinoff that we had in the
1:19:27
first movie. Yeah, we did.
1:19:28
Mine was I wanna see full young Vito saga cause they show him
1:19:34
showing up at Ellis Island. But I want to see him growing
1:19:39
up, you know, meeting his wife, all these things.
1:19:43
They do a jump forward that's pretty dramatic.
1:19:45
I think they jump forward by like 20 years at one point.
1:19:48
So. They do skip a lot.
1:19:50
Before that. Yeah, they could have showed his
1:19:52
marriage to his wife. Their wedding.
1:19:53
And something showing the footage because apparently
1:19:55
there's like 4 hours of footage that's unused because when they
1:20:02
when? They could make a whole
1:20:03
additional movie. When they when they finished it,
1:20:05
couple of finished it. The studios, like you have two
1:20:07
movies here. You need to, you need to make
1:20:09
one. And he took out as much footage.
1:20:12
They had way more flashback scenes so who the fuck knows
1:20:15
what we missed. Yeah, they could have done a
1:20:17
sequel with just Michael and then they get the third movie
1:20:19
could have been a prequel of young Vito.
1:20:21
Yeah, double feature. I want to watch Donnie Brasco
1:20:25
with this really because I want more Al Pacino after watching
1:20:29
this movie, but I also want to see him in a less terrifying
1:20:32
role. I want like Pacino.
1:20:35
Also Al Pacino aged like 20 years between the Godfather
1:20:39
movies and there were only two years apart.
1:20:41
This guy you just like fucking milk.
1:20:43
I mean ages like milk. He looks so old.
1:20:48
He does. It zooms in on his face at the
1:20:50
end. He's so wrinkly.
1:20:51
It's like dude. You were 20 in the first one.
1:20:53
The fuck happened? It does work because being in
1:20:56
that position where you're in charge of so much.
1:21:00
I was thinking that like how it shows.
1:21:01
Presidents, whether anybody? It shows presidents like Barack
1:21:05
Obama at the beginning of his first term, at the end of his
1:21:08
first term. And it's like, yo, dude, you
1:21:10
aged 80 years. He's just more orange.
1:21:15
Trump didn't age because he doesn't have a soul.
1:21:17
Whoa. Just kidding.
1:21:21
Anyways. OK, what about you?
1:21:24
What's your double feeds? I I would put Godfather part
1:21:26
three. I want to see the the end of the
1:21:29
the story of Michael Corleone. Yeah, you know something funny
1:21:33
in the Gilmore Girls, Lorelai Gilmore loves all the Godfather
1:21:36
movies. And there's one episode where
1:21:39
her and Rory are going to watch all three godfathers and then
1:21:42
she's like, I want to watch all three godfathers and we'll
1:21:45
replay the Sophia dying scene until the Mallomars run out.
1:21:49
And like, I don't know that with that scene is I I mentioned that
1:21:52
to you and you were like, that's a fucked up scene.
1:21:54
Why does she wanna replay that over and over?
1:21:57
Again, Yeah, that's that's kind of weird.
1:21:59
That's a comedy, that's a sitcom that you were watching.
1:22:01
So Gilmore Girls, like, that's weird that.
1:22:03
It's like a soapy comedy, yeah. It's still it's it's a dark
1:22:06
thing to say, OK? I got a laughing at a funeral
1:22:09
here. OK get ready for this is hella
1:22:13
dark. So in Godfather One, it was a
1:22:16
bloody horse in the bed, and Godfather 2 was a bloody whore.
1:22:22
What is the bed? OHS.
1:22:25
And Tom Hagen was involved. So who's the sick 1 here?
1:22:29
I think it's Tom Hagan. He's got a sick sense of humor.
1:22:32
Yeah, but did Tom Hagan kill that horse?
1:22:34
Nobody. He hired someone.
1:22:36
No, he had it. Obviously he didn't do it.
1:22:38
He's a fucking lawyer. Well, since he's squeaky clean,
1:22:40
he's not killing anyone. He's hiring people to.
1:22:43
Do these things. He's like, do it this way and
1:22:45
then they're like OK. No cause vetoes in.
1:22:48
Charge. But yeah, I just thought it was
1:22:50
kind of interesting that there's two bloody things in the bed and
1:22:54
ones a horse and ones in a whore house.
1:22:57
OK, so the next the next segment is kiss, marry kill.
1:23:01
But I did change the kiss, marry kill segment a little bit.
1:23:04
I've made it kiss, marry kill slash a would you rather?
1:23:07
Because I think kiss kiss marry kill might get stale, but I will
1:23:10
use it sometimes. And when I don't want to do a
1:23:12
kiss, marry kill, I'll do it. Would you rather?
1:23:14
I'm confused. Just ask the question.
1:23:16
Would you rather be Kay? We're afraid Go in this movie.
1:23:20
Was obviously, I'd rather be Kay.
1:23:22
I don't wanna be dead. But you lose your children.
1:23:25
I would be alive. I get to see them at a
1:23:27
permission to see them. Yeah, I guess that's kind of a
1:23:29
stupid question. Yeah, would you rather be
1:23:32
murdered fucking. Fishing.
1:23:33
No. Well, because in my mind I was
1:23:35
like, if I can't be with my children, I don't know if I want
1:23:37
to live. Because she asks Anthony for a
1:23:40
kiss and he's like no, not kissing you.
1:23:42
He, like, hates her. I'm not gonna get into that.
1:23:45
It's too fucking, it's too dark. So they go into the third movie.
1:23:49
Yeah, kinda, but alright, lazy Sunday vibes.
1:23:53
Nope. No, not for me.
1:23:55
Maybe just a flashback scenes because they're a little bit
1:23:58
lighter, except for the opening of the movie where everybody
1:24:02
dies in this family. Yeah, we like, we're playing
1:24:06
this movie over again when we were making notes and you wanted
1:24:09
me to skip that beginning seeing.
1:24:10
Is it so fucking upsetting? It's upsetting.
1:24:13
Like this movie is too upsetting to be a lazy Sunday movie.
1:24:16
The second-half is an assault on your senses.
1:24:19
That's what you said. Yeah, it is, and I agree.
1:24:21
It's an assault on your senses and your emotions.
1:24:24
Yeah, there's too much rage and revenge to calmly, like, sit and
1:24:28
watch this movie on the couch like you.
1:24:29
It's very much like Titanic. Yeah, you have to mentally
1:24:33
prepare yourself. It's upsetting the alias.
1:24:38
I couldn't really think of any good ones because I already kind
1:24:40
of used them the last time, so I'm kind of made a joke.
1:24:43
OK, The Godfather. Havana Knights.
1:24:46
Ohl, that's good because. The Dirty Dancing sequel is
1:24:49
called Dirty Dancing Havana. Nights.
1:24:51
Yeah, I got Godfather Part 2. Electric Boogaloo?
1:24:56
The same thing really. Godfather Part 2 Full Throttle.
1:25:04
Godfather 2, Cruise Control, Godfather 2, Annihilation.
1:25:13
That was. From Mortal Kombat 2
1:25:15
Annihilation like the. Movie was a deep cut.
1:25:18
Well, it's annihilation cause he's fucking killing everybody
1:25:21
and then father and son, just. Like the Cat Stevens song,
1:25:25
You're still Young. That's your.
1:25:27
Fault. That's not why.
1:25:28
There's so much you have to it's.
1:25:30
Godfather but his father and son cause it's flashbacks and then
1:25:34
goes flash forward to Michael that's why.
1:25:36
You know what's What's Cat Stevens name now?
1:25:38
Yusuf Islam. So red.
1:25:43
He converted guy, what do you want?
1:25:45
Good for him, I hope he's happy. Yeah, that is a great song
1:25:49
though, father and son. That's I love that song.
1:25:52
My my cousin used to sing that around the campfire on our
1:25:56
annual camping trip. Yeah.
1:25:57
And it just has like such a warm and fuzzy feeling for.
1:26:00
Me OK, best performance of the movie.
1:26:02
This is the newer category. OK, so I want to name a few
1:26:07
people. Lee Strasberg, AKA Hyman Roth.
1:26:11
Yeah, the Moe Green monologue is amazing.
1:26:14
It's really good. His fury starts to build because
1:26:17
that was a beloved friend of. His I didn't ask who gave the
1:26:20
order because I had nothing to do with business.
1:26:25
Yeah, you can see his, you can see his fury building.
1:26:28
And it's it's a really impressive piece of acting.
1:26:32
Diane Keaton is barely in this movie.
1:26:35
She makes a huge impact. That's.
1:26:37
Totally good in this, that's she's way better than this than
1:26:39
the first. Movie.
1:26:40
To be in a couple of scenes and leave such a mark on a movie,
1:26:45
yeah, you have to be incredibly gifted.
1:26:48
However, Al Pacino takes it again for me.
1:26:52
Yeah, Because in the abortion scene with Kay, you can see this
1:26:57
shock and fury building in his face and his eyes bulging out of
1:27:02
his head until he explodes with anger and slaps the shit out of
1:27:05
her. Yeah, that was a fucking hard
1:27:08
slap. She fell and he fell on her.
1:27:11
That's hard to slap. Was you think he slapped her for
1:27:13
real? No.
1:27:15
This looks real. There's no way he slapped her
1:27:17
that hard. It looks really looked way
1:27:18
realer than the sunny beating up Carlo fucking bullshit.
1:27:21
It looked real as hell, but there's no way that was real.
1:27:23
It would been like you could have.
1:27:24
He could have. Caused you said something was a
1:27:26
real hot head. Yeah, that piece of acting it.
1:27:29
Yeah. It makes him take over the.
1:27:32
Whole movie part you were talking about the Moe Green
1:27:34
monologue. When they cut to Michael, he's
1:27:38
looking at him. He knows exactly.
1:27:41
Hyman Roth knows exactly who gave the order to kill Moe
1:27:44
Green. Yeah, of course.
1:27:45
Right, and Michael knows that he knows, and his look on his face
1:27:49
towards Simon Roth just fucking deadpan.
1:27:52
Like no reaction biggest poker face in the world just staring
1:27:56
at him. Just like no emotion at.
1:27:58
All and his his reaction when he finds out Fredo betrayed him.
1:28:03
Oh, at the at the sex club. Yeah, you just see his his
1:28:07
expression crumble, and then he buries his face in his hands.
1:28:09
He looks, yeah. There's so many little hints.
1:28:12
So soon as he finds out that Fredo did that, like he he he
1:28:16
mentions Johnny Ola and Hyman Roth.
1:28:18
Yeah. He looks back at his bodyguard
1:28:21
and the bodyguard leaves and he goes to kill Johnny Ola, like,
1:28:24
right away. It's very, very interesting.
1:28:28
Oh, I didn't realize. That and then also one more
1:28:31
thing here. So when they're at the
1:28:33
presidential Alice for New Year's Eve, Michael has told
1:28:37
Fredo that Hyman Roth will never see the new year.
1:28:40
Right at the presidential palace, everybody's partying.
1:28:43
Senator Geary's there. And Fredo's like leaving.
1:28:46
And Michael says, where are you going?
1:28:47
He's like, oh, I want to get a real drink, right?
1:28:51
He leaves. Yeah.
1:28:52
And then about two minutes later, you see the turtleneck
1:28:56
hitman, the old guy, Michael's hitman going into the hospital.
1:29:01
And then you see. This.
1:29:04
Fredo warns them. Because you see these army guys,
1:29:09
right? The presidential Army guys,
1:29:11
remember there, there's a convoy of guys that walk through the
1:29:13
party. And they fuck off.
1:29:15
Catch bags. So they leave, and then those
1:29:19
same guys just waltz right into Hyman Roth's room.
1:29:22
They don't even look around. They just walk right in.
1:29:25
Kick the. Door open, shot that guy
1:29:27
without. Even exactly, they just bang,
1:29:29
bang, bang, bang. They blew him up.
1:29:31
And then that's right after when Michael he sees Fredo, he says,
1:29:35
I know it was you. He says you broke my heart
1:29:39
because he he gave Fredo the information.
1:29:41
He said at the cafe when they're ordering banana daiquiri, he
1:29:44
says Hyman Roth will never see the new.
1:29:46
Year no that no the I know it was you Fredo is after that
1:29:50
drinks. No, no, I know.
1:29:51
But he gives Fredo the information that he's gonna have
1:29:54
Hyman Roth killed before the new year, and he tells those guys,
1:29:58
and then that's when they go stop the.
1:29:59
Yeah. And then the new Year kiss is
1:30:01
after that. Yeah.
1:30:02
So yeah, Fredo was like, I mean, there's more stuff to talk
1:30:07
about. But maybe he deserved to get
1:30:08
killed then cause he's fucking around too much, yeah?
1:30:12
So I got here some honorable mentions.
1:30:16
You mentioned Diane Keaton. I said yes.
1:30:18
I agree wholeheartedly. She was wicked in this movie.
1:30:22
Michael Gotso who plays Frankie 5 Angels.
1:30:25
Really good acting in this. Yeah, really good.
1:30:28
Very. Obnoxious, you know, he's
1:30:30
sitting across from Al Pacino and he's arguing with him and
1:30:34
you're like, wow, this guys really let it like he's really
1:30:37
getting into giving it to him. You know, he's he's arguing with
1:30:40
him so. Yeah, he does.
1:30:42
He doesn't show, he doesn't step back.
1:30:44
Tally Shire was way better in this than the first movie.
1:30:48
Yeah, yeah. She is more subdued.
1:30:50
She like the scene where she tells Michael to forgive him.
1:30:54
Holy shit. Heavy, heavy shit.
1:30:57
Very heavy. Robert Duvall amazing again,
1:31:02
just really good in this movie. Just a continuation of the 1st.
1:31:06
Honestly, he might have been better in the first one though
1:31:08
upon reflection. I think he was more relatable in
1:31:13
the 1st. One, he was more emotional.
1:31:15
In the second movie, he's a bit more cold.
1:31:18
Yeah, he's the he's the Cancellieri that they wanted in
1:31:22
the first, like a wartime one. He's more cunning and stuff like
1:31:25
that. But Pacino again, yeah, like I
1:31:28
agree with you 100%. He fucking takes the cake in
1:31:30
this. And it's a very close second
1:31:32
with De Niro, the only one I don't give.
1:31:35
The only reason I don't give it to Dinero, even though he won
1:31:37
the award, is because he's playing a character that was
1:31:41
played by somebody else. So he has a template already,
1:31:45
you know. Yeah, Where is Al Pacino's just
1:31:47
pulling this out of thin air. Yeah, he it.
1:31:50
It really is a shame that he didn't win an Oscar for either
1:31:52
of these because it's it's one of the best performances I've
1:31:57
ever seen. Yeah.
1:31:58
And actor give it's. The Gino's done so many great
1:32:00
performance. His facial expressions alone,
1:32:03
like it's not even his delivery of the lines, that's still good,
1:32:06
but I have never seen somebody show so much emotion without
1:32:11
speaking and pull you in so much.
1:32:15
In this when the scene where Fredo has pneumonia, like he
1:32:20
looks like a father whose kid is sick and there's nothing you can
1:32:24
do about it but just pray and hope that they get over this
1:32:27
sickness. It's phenomenal.
1:32:30
Yeah. And he gets a very close second
1:32:32
to me. But like I said, he had a
1:32:34
template already. Yeah, he is very good though.
1:32:37
And honestly, I like I kind of like his portrayal of Vito even
1:32:41
more than Marlon Brando. I feel he's a lot more relatable
1:32:45
in the in the second movie because you see him in his young
1:32:47
life when he's still like a real person.
1:32:49
Well, people change right over time, so like.
1:32:53
Yeah, well, as the Godfather though, he's like not it's, he's
1:32:55
like a a figurehead. He's not even like a real person
1:32:58
anymore by the end of the movie. All right, shower thoughts?
1:33:04
Uh, sure. OK, this is going to be a lot of
1:33:07
discussion and theories here. So my first one here, the Senate
1:33:12
hearings, lowkey really, really nice part of the movie, Very
1:33:16
entertaining, very interesting. Also, it was filmed like a real
1:33:20
Senate hearing, like if you watch CPAC or C-SPAN.
1:33:23
Yeah, it felt real. It didn't.
1:33:25
There was no close-ups of characters.
1:33:28
There was these two shots. It was left and right.
1:33:31
It did it. It almost felt like she turned
1:33:33
the channel and you're. Looking at C-SPAN, the echoing
1:33:35
of the hall, it was very real too.
1:33:39
Yeah, I really appreciated that this time, watching it this
1:33:43
time. What do you got?
1:33:45
So when little Vito arrives at Ellis Island, he's marked with a
1:33:50
circled X Yeah. Ellis Island immigrants were
1:33:54
marked with this. If the inspector believed the
1:33:56
person had a mental or physical defect.
1:34:00
So at the beginning of the movie, his mother saying, like,
1:34:03
he's he's dimwitted, he's slow. And they believe that at Ellis
1:34:06
Island as well. But he's not.
1:34:09
Yeah, what was his? An ex.
1:34:10
He had this circled X because they believed he was like
1:34:13
dimwitted. So I looked online what those
1:34:17
things mean and and they had a letter for everything.
1:34:20
So if you were a pregnant woman, they would write PG.
1:34:25
If you were elderly they would put a different letter.
1:34:28
If you were physically disabled, they would put a different
1:34:32
letter. There was a bunch of different
1:34:34
letters that they used for different people.
1:34:35
If you had an illness, like if you had lice or something like
1:34:39
that, they would put a different letter for each person.
1:34:42
OK, well, the ex supposedly was for mental or physical defects.
1:34:45
OK, so I think they thought he was dimwitted, but it turned out
1:34:48
and like later in the film, he wasn't.
1:34:50
Yeah, he's actually very, very highly intelligent later in
1:34:53
life. Yeah, Frankie, 5 Angels brother
1:34:56
showing up to the Senate hearing.
1:34:59
What's your take on that? So I think what it is is that
1:35:03
his brother was like an old school Italian, and they would
1:35:06
never squeal. So him seeing the brother, yeah,
1:35:10
made him be like, I can't squeal because initially I was like,
1:35:14
he's afraid for his brother's life, that they're going to kill
1:35:17
him. But Michael is whispering with
1:35:19
the brother and they talk about inviting him out to dinner.
1:35:22
It doesn't seem hostile. Yeah, I had both exact same
1:35:25
thing. I'm like, he's either his
1:35:27
brothers there, they flow him in.
1:35:28
They're like, we're going to kill you brother, his family and
1:35:31
everybody you know, if you say anything, which in my opinion is
1:35:35
actually a better truth than coming there because of the old
1:35:41
school code the. Well, that's coding.
1:35:43
Silence. It's pulling in that old school
1:35:45
code because his brother gives him a look when he enters the
1:35:48
room. And I said to you, I said where?
1:35:49
I was like, oh, that's his dad or his brother.
1:35:51
Yeah. And I think given Michael and
1:35:54
who he is and how he's become so in my opinion, just he's pure
1:35:58
evil now. I could see the threatening to
1:36:02
kill Pentangeli's brother and everybody he knows back in
1:36:07
Sicily the the real reason cause Michael's fucking crazy.
1:36:12
Well, he was concerned for his brothers well-being a little bit
1:36:15
because he asked Tom, he said did you send him back?
1:36:17
So he was concerned for his well-being, but he, I think it
1:36:21
was also like, you don't break the the code, you don't squeal.
1:36:26
Yeah, I agree. The scene with Michael when he's
1:36:28
talking to his mom, I find that seemed very sad because it
1:36:32
mirrors the scene where he's talking to his dad in the garden
1:36:37
in the first movie. And this time he's talking
1:36:40
about, like in the first movie, he's talking about his son
1:36:43
reading the funny papers, you know, and how he's such a smart
1:36:47
kid. And then in this movie, he's
1:36:49
talking to his mom and he's talking about losing his family.
1:36:52
And, um, you know, he's concerned.
1:36:56
It's sad because he's concerned about losing his family, but it
1:37:00
he's still going deeper into the darkness.
1:37:04
Well, he doesn't do anything about it.
1:37:05
At that point, he should have spoken to Kay and tried to
1:37:08
resolve their issues. He just, it's like he almost
1:37:11
pushes it aside, like I'll deal with that later.
1:37:13
He is You can't view America. You can't view a marriage like
1:37:16
that. Yeah, it's not a plant.
1:37:18
So you'll water it later. Like no, you have to water it
1:37:20
every day. Yeah.
1:37:21
Also how long was he gone after the shooting into their house he
1:37:26
comes back after? Christmas it was at least
1:37:28
several weeks. It's gotta be at least two
1:37:31
months. As something like that.
1:37:33
I think it was. At least he was.
1:37:34
He was gone for awhile. Well, yeah, he missed Christmas
1:37:37
and New Years with his family. Was it was it was a significant
1:37:40
amount of time. When you brought this up earlier
1:37:43
about how people think that the flashbacks take away from the
1:37:46
movie, I agree. I think there's a way to watch
1:37:51
this, by the way, in chronological order.
1:37:53
It shows up on AMC sometimes, called The Godfather Saga, and
1:37:57
basically it's edited so you're young Vito in Italy and then
1:38:02
it's all the old school scenes with young Vito and then it goes
1:38:06
into Godfather One and then it goes into Godfather too, but all
1:38:11
the old school scenes or sorry, the new.
1:38:13
Scene the new scenes. And then it goes into.
1:38:15
Parts. I'd like to see it like that
1:38:16
I'd. Like to see it like that too.
1:38:18
It's I haven't seen it like that, but I think it would make
1:38:22
the the new present day scenes in Godfather 2 much more
1:38:27
cohesive. Well, we'll, we'll, we'll watch
1:38:29
it like that some someday. Nearly all of Vito's dialogue is
1:38:32
in Sicilian Italian, and Robert De Niro spent four months
1:38:37
learning how to speak Sicilian Italian.
1:38:39
Yeah, yeah, it, it shows. I mean, the guy knows Italian.
1:38:43
I know Pacino doesn't. I think he had to learn a
1:38:46
specific dialect cause he specifically said Sicilian.
1:38:49
It's a different type. Well, Sicily is a different
1:38:52
province in Italy. It's not a separate country.
1:38:55
No, I know it's it's the same country, but yeah, they they
1:38:57
probably had a slightly different dialect.
1:39:00
But he did learn how to speak it and it only took four months, so
1:39:03
I assume he probably did have some Italian already.
1:39:05
Exactly what it takes. It's only a few lines too,
1:39:07
right? Well, it's a lot of lines.
1:39:10
It's all of his lines. So the scene at the end of the
1:39:13
movie where there's a flashback to basically you see Sunny
1:39:18
there, Connie, Carlo, Fredo, everybody's at the table.
1:39:23
It's it looks like it's Vito's birthday.
1:39:27
Yeah, they get a cake for him. What's your what's your take on
1:39:31
that scene? What do you think that was all
1:39:32
about? Yeah, I wanted to talk about
1:39:35
that scene. Or did you wanna ask me that?
1:39:38
Well, I'm, yeah. I wanna know.
1:39:39
Like, what's the point of that final scene?
1:39:43
Like, we know Michael fought in World War Two.
1:39:45
We know he left college. Like why, why why are they
1:39:47
showing? Us this right before that Fredo
1:39:50
was killed and it cuts to Michael sitting in a dark room
1:39:54
and his head just kind of cocks back in the chair and he's all
1:39:57
by himself. And then the scene at the end of
1:40:00
the movie is showing Michael with his family in a flashback
1:40:04
scene to the the first movie, and one by one everybody in that
1:40:09
table starts to leave and again he's by himself.
1:40:13
It's just to kind of show that Michael, no matter what he does,
1:40:18
he ends up being alone. And it doesn't matter if he was,
1:40:21
you know, he he he didn't see eye to eye with Sunny and a lot,
1:40:25
you know, it's fucked up. Most of the people at that
1:40:27
table, they're dead because of Michael.
1:40:29
Carlos dead. Fredo's dead.
1:40:33
Seals dead. The only people that are alive
1:40:35
are Connie and Tom. Yeah, so also, I don't know if
1:40:39
this happened to you, but when that scene started, like James
1:40:42
Kahn had some lines and stuff, I felt like warm.
1:40:46
Like that scene was, it brought some warmth and levity to the
1:40:50
whole fucking movie. And I think it was put there
1:40:53
specifically to contrast the cold and calculated Godfather
1:40:58
Part 2 versus the warm. And you know, you were saying
1:41:02
like the the lighter tones Godfather one with the wedding
1:41:05
scene and. Everything, especially, Yeah,
1:41:07
especially before Connie's husband is abusive.
1:41:09
Especially before Sonny dies. When, when when Vetoes alive.
1:41:13
All of that. Yeah, it's it is.
1:41:15
It's happier. It's happier, it's more fun.
1:41:18
It's lighter. Like Fredo is like joking around
1:41:21
with Sunny, like they're about to box each other, you know?
1:41:24
Yeah. So I felt some warmth after that
1:41:28
cold, cold scene. And I think it's a really nice
1:41:30
touch that they they added that because you just went from
1:41:34
fucking executing this guy's brother to.
1:41:37
Well, it may be showing his regret too, that.
1:41:40
Oh yeah, he just keeps look like he's lost, OK?
1:41:42
He's lost, Fredo. He's lost.
1:41:44
Sons made so many poor choices, it's crazy.
1:41:46
Yeah, Yeah, he has. So did Fredo know that it was an
1:41:52
assassination attempt? Yeah, that's what I wanted to
1:41:55
know earlier. Like he says, I didn't know it
1:41:58
was going to be a hit. Do you believe him?
1:42:00
I don't. I don't believe him either cause
1:42:03
he he tried to confess to Michael on in Cuba.
1:42:07
He did. He's like I, I was mad at you.
1:42:09
He said I was mad at you. He was about to confess to him
1:42:12
and. He's mad at him cause he got
1:42:13
stepped over. Is that all it was?
1:42:16
So he's he says I was stepped over.
1:42:19
I'm your older brother. And he also says that I was mad
1:42:23
at you. So to me that's an admission of
1:42:26
guilt because he is saying that I wanted you out of the way and
1:42:30
I was angry that I didn't get the the big boy job.
1:42:34
Yeah, but even if if Michael was dead, it would go to Tom.
1:42:38
And nobody's giving the Empire to Fredo.
1:42:40
He's too weak. Yeah, and.
1:42:42
He shows his weakness. That's the thing.
1:42:44
So I think he knew fully, I think that Rocco, one of the
1:42:50
bodyguards, Rocco was in on it as well.
1:42:52
So Michael has 2, Michael has two guys that he that are his
1:42:57
one and two. And then he has this, the
1:42:59
turtleneck hitman. So Rocco and Al, AL's the guy
1:43:03
who shoots Fredo at the end and Rocco's the guy who sent to kill
1:43:07
Hyman Roth. So when the shooting happens,
1:43:09
right, the drapes get shot up, he says Rocco, I want them
1:43:12
alive. And he shouts he's like, alive.
1:43:15
And then Rocco finds the two shooters with their throat slit,
1:43:19
and he says nobody knows who they are.
1:43:22
They must be from New York. But who killed them?
1:43:26
Exactly. And he said I want them alive.
1:43:28
Who killed them? Fredo didn't fucking do it.
1:43:31
He's not a tough guy. If there's only two shooters
1:43:34
there, who's doing it? Cause that's why I think.
1:43:37
And and at the end of the movie, he sends Rocco to kill Hyman
1:43:41
Roth. And remember, Tom's like, you
1:43:43
cannot do this. He's gonna be surrounded by FBI,
1:43:46
there's gonna be reporters. There, Rocco says it'll be hard,
1:43:49
not impossible. Yeah, but I think Rocco knows
1:43:52
that I'm fucking next because it's a suicide mission.
1:43:56
He goes, he shoots Hyman Roth, and he's fucking killed right
1:43:59
away. Yeah, so I think that was
1:44:01
Michael's saying you're going to get killed.
1:44:04
So you can either go get killed doing something for me, or
1:44:08
you're going to get executed. Yeah, he could have been also
1:44:11
wired in that scene where they're looking for the
1:44:14
shooters. Why are they dragging Fredo's
1:44:17
wife through the woods? I thought.
1:44:19
She's fucking, she's a lunatic. She heard the shooting and she
1:44:23
probably lost her shit and she's still trashed.
1:44:26
I don't know how she's not passed out.
1:44:28
Just like train wreck woman. Well, I mean the house got she
1:44:31
was shot up and that would wake up anyone.
1:44:33
Fair enough. But they're trying to like
1:44:35
probably get her to safety. Remember, they put everybody in
1:44:37
one room. They're probably trying to get
1:44:39
them to safety and she's like, yeah, she's dropped like the wop
1:44:45
word like 7 times in like 4 seconds and she's crazy.
1:44:50
You married an Italian guy? Like what are you doing?
1:44:53
Just go back to Rocco. I think it's really unique.
1:44:56
Like, not unique. It's just interesting that
1:44:59
Michael says I don't want anything to happen to him while
1:45:01
my mother's alive. It's fucking savage.
1:45:04
She's like controlling his hatred and he's like, I'm gonna
1:45:07
lie and wait till my mom's dead. Well, that's what I'm saying.
1:45:10
This guy's pure evil in this movie.
1:45:12
He's pure evil, but he didn't want his mother to suffer
1:45:15
anymore. Sure, she's already lost her
1:45:18
husband and one of her children. He's like, I don't want him
1:45:20
touched while my mother's alive. I don't want her going through
1:45:22
that. He's pure evil.
1:45:24
He goes and quote UN quote forgives Fredo at the funeral,
1:45:29
but all he was doing was embracing him one last time.
1:45:32
And then he looks up at Rocco. Or no, He looks up at Al and
1:45:37
makes eye contact like my mother's gone, we're going to
1:45:41
kill him now. Yeah, it's fucked up.
1:45:44
That's dark. It's really fucked up.
1:45:46
So Michael's. He's a bastard in this movie.
1:45:50
He is. On a lighter note, I love when
1:45:54
Vito goes to the opera with his friend and the friends.
1:45:57
Like, isn't my girlfriend so beautiful?
1:45:59
And then Vito said I only have eyes for my wife and son.
1:46:03
Yeah, I thought that was a really lovely thing to say.
1:46:06
Cause we like young Vito's very sweet and he's very relatable
1:46:10
before he goes into crime. Like, yeah, it really gives us.
1:46:13
Like you said, he goes into it out of necessity.
1:46:16
He does, and it gives us somebody that we can relate to
1:46:19
and hold on to while we're on this ride through.
1:46:22
Michael's like crazy because you can't relate to Michael at all.
1:46:26
We need somebody that we can relate to.
1:46:28
Veto. I've noticed this movie, he's
1:46:30
very virtuous. Even though he's in the life of
1:46:32
crime, he, you know, he stops Fanucci from harassing people
1:46:37
for protection money. You know, he, he's just
1:46:41
virtuous. He helps the lady.
1:46:42
The Peoples champ. He's the people's champ.
1:46:44
He he helps everybody out. If somebody does him a favor, he
1:46:47
does them a favor. You know what I mean?
1:46:49
Like, yeah, he's very virtuous, even though he's in a life of
1:46:51
crime. Well, we see that in the first
1:46:53
movie too. Like he's a much better person
1:46:55
than any of the children that he raised, which is really sad.
1:46:59
It's a little hypocritical sometimes.
1:47:00
You know, he does kill people. His organization kills people.
1:47:04
And then he's like, this guy thinks we're murderers.
1:47:06
It's like, yeah, Guy, you are kind of murderers.
1:47:08
Yeah, he has a line. And Michael in this movie
1:47:12
doesn't. He fucking kills everybody he
1:47:15
needs. To Michael's much more blood
1:47:17
hungrier than Vito. He is.
1:47:18
It's really fucked. Up her bloodthirsty.
1:47:20
The part Wilfredo gets drunk at the sex show and just tells
1:47:24
everyone that Johnny Ola brought him to this place and after that
1:47:28
Michael's really. What an idiot.
1:47:31
Yeah, like 5 minutes ago you just pretended to not know
1:47:34
Johnny. Ola, he said.
1:47:35
I don't know Johnny Ola, and I think he also said he'd never
1:47:38
been to Cuba before. Yeah.
1:47:40
You liar. Terrible.
1:47:43
The The door to Vito Corleones olive oil business was rigged so
1:47:47
that it wouldn't open if a nail was inserted into the lock, and
1:47:51
Coppola kept this a secret from Leopoldo Trieste, who played
1:47:58
senior Roberto. Oh, I see the landlord.
1:48:01
Yeah. So, yeah, the landlord.
1:48:03
So his difficulty in opening the door was real.
1:48:06
He really couldn't get out. That's the scene, the, the, the
1:48:09
comedy and the like, the, the, you know, the tension Little
1:48:12
there's a little bit of tension, but yeah, it's more
1:48:14
uncomfortable than anything. I agree.
1:48:16
Ohe. I wanted to ask you when Kay
1:48:18
tells Michael about the abortion.
1:48:21
Yeah. Why does it matter that it's a
1:48:23
sun? They already have a son and a
1:48:25
daughter. Why is it so important that the
1:48:27
baby is a boy? He says it's Tom Hagan.
1:48:30
I think it's because Michael is the sun and Michael wants an air
1:48:36
to leave this behind. He needs a son to continue this.
1:48:40
The Corleone family, the the like, whether it's in crime or
1:48:45
it goes full legitimate, he needs somebody to to follow it.
1:48:48
So the more sons he has, Anthony, I know, but the more
1:48:51
sons he has, the higher probability of it succeeding
1:48:55
because again, misogyny. You can't give it to his
1:48:57
daughter. It's not their responsibility.
1:49:00
It's up to his son to carry on the name and also.
1:49:03
Or or maybe just to add on to that, maybe he was like, Anthony
1:49:08
will take over this business. Yeah, I'll have another son like
1:49:12
the way my father saw me, who can be a legitimate, who can
1:49:15
become a senator, who can be a real man, like a real
1:49:17
businessman. But knowing Michael and how
1:49:20
fucked up he is, I think it's just strictly selfish.
1:49:24
Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with making his kids
1:49:27
successful. It's just selfish reasons.
1:49:30
He's a very, very selfish person in this movies, especially in
1:49:34
the second one, and it's really like, it's crazy.
1:49:37
Well, he asks Kay, when in that scene she healing on the baby
1:49:40
sleeping inside me. Does it feel like a boy?
1:49:42
Yeah. And then what if it's a girl
1:49:44
would Tom Hagen tells him it's a miscarriage?
1:49:47
He's like was it a boy? He fucking loses his shit.
1:49:50
You just found out your wife had a miscarriage and that's your
1:49:52
first question. Now that's don't get me wrong.
1:49:54
If you've never, let's say your 4 girls deep and you want a boy
1:49:59
and it happens to be a miscarriage, I could see someone
1:50:02
being upset about that. I genuinely can.
1:50:04
But if you already have one of each.
1:50:06
He also handles the miscarriage really insensitively.
1:50:09
He says to her, he's like, you'll forget all about this
1:50:11
miscarriage and we'll move on. We'll have another baby.
1:50:13
It's like there are people I know.
1:50:15
People at that point, he doesn't know what to do.
1:50:19
Sensitive. I know people that have had
1:50:21
miscarriages and they're like, I think about it every single day.
1:50:23
Like, that's a child I lost. Yeah.
1:50:25
And he's like, oh, you'll forget about it.
1:50:26
We'll have another kid. It doesn't matter.
1:50:28
We never have a scene where he sits with her and talks about
1:50:31
it. Yeah, they they don't.
1:50:33
They don't. They don't acknowledge it
1:50:34
together. Yeah, one quote I wish I
1:50:37
mentioned earlier, but I'm going to mention it now.
1:50:40
So another quote from Tom Hagan. This committee owes an apology,
1:50:44
Senator. Senator, this committee owes an
1:50:47
apology. That's one of the only times see
1:50:49
Tom get angry. Yeah, I love that.
1:50:52
That's just such an epic fucking delivery of line from Tom Hagan.
1:50:56
I love that line. And I mean, supposedly if he was
1:50:59
innocent, he did deserve an apology even though he wasn't.
1:51:02
Yeah. So yeah, that scene in the
1:51:04
Senate hearing when Pacino's reading his statement, I don't
1:51:08
feel for the guy at all. I did in the past but watching
1:51:13
it now as a parent and we'll get into this after I fucking like
1:51:18
this guy is awful. I feel for him a little bit
1:51:21
because he did fight for his country.
1:51:25
Yeah, but you're killing people left, right, centre.
1:51:27
Yeah. OK, let's, let's get into this
1:51:29
now. Does this hit different as a
1:51:30
parent? Yeah, yeah, heavily.
1:51:35
The Paulo death scene, yeah, is upsetting as fuck.
1:51:40
Yeah, it is. To see that boy lying there
1:51:43
dead, he went to avenge his father and they killed him.
1:51:47
Young Vito. Well, young Vito's brother.
1:51:49
Yeah, young Vito's brother. It's really hard to watch.
1:51:51
And then also, like, immediately after that, Vito's poor mother
1:51:56
just lost her child, has to go to Don Ciccio and beg for Vito's
1:52:02
life. Yeah, Like that's a horrible
1:52:04
thing to have to do after you just lost one son and he and he
1:52:07
says no to her. Of course.
1:52:09
She throws herself in front of her son and and dies for him.
1:52:12
I would too. Yeah.
1:52:14
You're not taking another child from me.
1:52:16
Agreed. I'm not gonna stand here and
1:52:18
watch you kill my child. I want.
1:52:19
I don't wanna. Family obliterated.
1:52:20
Her whole family. I don't wanna live if I can't
1:52:22
have my family. Fuck you.
1:52:23
So like that, That was really hard to watch.
1:52:25
And like her getting blown away by that gun.
1:52:28
It just like you just know that that is seared into Vito's brain
1:52:33
as trauma. Is not something that you
1:52:37
forget. No it's not.
1:52:39
And I also, I've I felt for young Vito when he goes to
1:52:41
America alone. Yeah, that part, it's really
1:52:44
sad. He's sitting in that room by
1:52:45
himself, just looking out the window.
1:52:47
Itself. Yeah, because he's trying to
1:52:48
comfort himself. And I said to you when it shows
1:52:51
him on the boat going over, I said nobody could go with him.
1:52:54
Who's gonna go with? Him somebody else likes it
1:52:57
doesn't have to be a family or like just another person from
1:52:59
the town that wants to go to America.
1:53:02
Good, but. Well we don't see anyone with
1:53:05
him and he doesn't even speak English and that's why they
1:53:08
messed up his name. Well, there's a bunch of Italian
1:53:11
people that went, there's immigrants from all over the
1:53:13
world that were going to the US as refugees, as immigrants and
1:53:17
stuff like that. So I'm sure.
1:53:19
And it was a big community. The, I was like, I noticed the,
1:53:23
the, the, the festival where in the, in the, on the street, the,
1:53:27
the festival in Little Italy. I was shocked at how big it was.
1:53:31
Like there's a there's obviously a big presidents Italian
1:53:34
presence, especially in that time.
1:53:36
So now it's, you know, Little Italy is there's one in every
1:53:40
city, you know. Yeah, every major city.
1:53:42
But yeah, this movie hits different as a parent, namely
1:53:47
the scene where he says bye to his son and the son's like, can
1:53:50
I come with you? I want to help.
1:53:53
That's that seems really like it's sad because the little.
1:53:57
Boy, I could picture talking to our son, like obviously he's
1:53:59
much younger, but yeah, it does. It makes you think of your own
1:54:02
kid. Makes think of your own kid, the
1:54:04
little drying he left on his dad's pillow.
1:54:06
Do you like it yes or no? Like that's really, you know,
1:54:10
that's the relationship he has with his son.
1:54:12
It's like, you know, he he needs his father's approval.
1:54:16
It's really sad. And they mentioned, like, Kays,
1:54:19
like talking about look at our son, Look what's happened to
1:54:22
him. Look, look what?
1:54:23
And she's like, look what's wrong with our son?
1:54:25
And Michael's like, there's nothing wrong with him.
1:54:27
There's nothing wrong. He's like, I don't wanna hear
1:54:29
about it. I don't wanna hear about it.
1:54:31
I wanted to hear about it cause what is?
1:54:33
It so. What's wrong with it?
1:54:35
There's nothing mentally wrong. It's because of his
1:54:38
surroundings, she says in that scene, your button men are his
1:54:42
friends. He doesn't have any friends.
1:54:44
He's secluded from society because of the danger that
1:54:49
Michael Corleone puts his family in.
1:54:51
He doesn't have any friends. The only people he sees are his
1:54:55
sister, his immediate family, and then the fucking security
1:55:00
guards on the compound. So.
1:55:03
He. There's a scene that was deleted
1:55:05
where Michael's one mentions that he wants to do something
1:55:10
really terrible with a gun, and he's just a kid and her KK
1:55:17
becomes very concerned about the surroundings that he's, I mean,
1:55:20
your kids are surrounded by this awful, awful shit.
1:55:23
They're gonna be, you know, if Vito seems like he had them a
1:55:27
little bit more insulated, they were more insulated from this
1:55:31
shit. But Michael is just surrounded
1:55:34
and he's got more enemies. He's more paranoid than Beto's,
1:55:37
you know what I'm saying? And it makes the Fredo murder
1:55:40
scene even worse because Fredo and Anthony were really bonding.
1:55:44
He was, like, talking to him like you would talk to a kid.
1:55:46
Yeah. Taking him fishing, spending
1:55:48
time with his. Uncle.
1:55:49
Giving him attention and I don't think he really got that much
1:55:53
attention from Michael cause other than the scene where he
1:55:55
goes into his bedroom to talk to him, yeah, every time he's with
1:55:58
Michael, he'd like just has to sit there stock still and not
1:56:01
make a fuss. Yeah, it's really sad.
1:56:03
It is, it is really sad. And like, there's so many
1:56:06
factors about this, about being a parent and watching all these
1:56:10
things happen to this family, you know, the, the, the falling
1:56:13
apart of the marriage. OK, visiting her children?
1:56:17
Yeah. She's.
1:56:18
Holding her daughter, she's like, you're so beautiful.
1:56:20
You're so beautiful. Connie's like, you have to get
1:56:22
out of here. Yeah.
1:56:23
She's having this sweet moment with her daughter.
1:56:25
And she's like, Anthony, please kiss me because I have to go.
1:56:28
It's fucking heart wrenching. Like that.
1:56:30
I would kill myself if that was me.
1:56:31
Like seriously, I have to be with my children at all times.
1:56:34
That's so sad. It's it's very sad.
1:56:36
It's devastating. If you're a parent of and you
1:56:38
know you have kids, you can definitely relate to what we're
1:56:43
saying. Yeah.
1:56:45
It's you. You hate your kids or your.
1:56:49
Michaels, you're a monster. And you know your children.
1:56:51
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, this movie, it's
1:56:54
different. As a parent it's still
1:56:56
entertaining mob movie but it's fucking dark.
1:57:01
It's dark, it drags you down more than the first movie.
1:57:03
The first movie you don't feel quite as as dirty as the.
1:57:07
Third one, you don't feel as dirty for because of the story,
1:57:11
but you feel dirty because it's so bad.
1:57:16
You feel like you need a. Belly it leaves.
1:57:17
It leaves a mark on you. It's just big shit stain on the
1:57:20
trilogy. You know what's fucked up?
1:57:23
The trailer for The Godfather Part 2, the commercial, You
1:57:26
know, the movie guy voice. Yeah, he says.
1:57:28
The final conclusion to the Corleone story.
1:57:34
And then they're like JK. Yeah, they yeah, I think it was
1:57:37
like 74, but 15 years later, 16 years later, they.
1:57:41
Made it was in the 90s, in 30 came.
1:57:43
Out 1990 yeah came out same year as Good fellas.
1:57:47
Yeah, pretty crazy. Yeah, alright, mom, how many
1:57:50
Janko cans of olive oil do you give this movie?
1:57:54
First of all, I want one of those cans of olive oil, the one
1:57:58
that he brings to John Don Chicha Chicha is.
1:58:00
Yeah, so. It's so retro looking, so cool,
1:58:03
and I love that it's in that tin box.
1:58:05
Like you can't get all of oil like that anymore.
1:58:07
Not where we live, anyway. They're all bottles.
1:58:09
Yeah, I want one of those. Yeah, it's pretty.
1:58:11
Neat just as decoration in my kitchen, but I I give this movie
1:58:16
10 out of 10 the hands of olive oil.
1:58:19
Really. Yeah, I said it's it's just as
1:58:22
good as this. Is this as the first movie?
1:58:24
I just don't like it as much, but it's still incredible.
1:58:28
Wow. And deserves 10 out of.
1:58:29
Time I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a 9.5.
1:58:35
It's it's got some problems. That olive oils that that can't
1:58:38
not full yeah I'm. Giving you less?
1:58:40
Yeah give it 9.5 cans of olive oil.
1:58:42
One of the cans got punctured and shipping so it leaked.
1:58:46
Cause the first one is fucking perfect.
1:58:49
This one is just shy of perfect. The pacing is a little weird.
1:58:56
The acting is better, I think in a lot of ways.
1:59:00
Yeah, there's less overacting, but.
1:59:02
Some of the pacing is a little awkward with the flashback
1:59:05
scenes. I could.
1:59:06
See that? The vibe of the first one, the
1:59:08
scene where Salasso takes Tom Hagan and he's sitting in this
1:59:12
like almost as like container and it's dark and he's giving
1:59:16
him a cup of coffee and he just found out that the Don has been
1:59:20
shot. Like the first one is something
1:59:24
different. This one is great, but it's it's
1:59:29
a different movie. It's a different.
1:59:30
I have to give it its flowers. It takes us on a very
1:59:32
interesting story that is separate from the first movie,
1:59:35
but just as compelling. You know what it?
1:59:37
Is I love young Vito, I love. Him it is a more complicated
1:59:40
story because you watch it a few times, you trying to figure out
1:59:43
the little hints, the little nuances, the little tricks that
1:59:47
you know that you don't notice the first time you watch or the
1:59:50
first couple times. But yeah, a lot of people call
1:59:53
this the best sequel ever. I disagree.
1:59:56
It is one of the best. Equals over 2 is the best sequel
1:59:59
ever in my. Opinion yeah, I Terminator 2 I
2:00:02
think is the best people ever. But yeah, we'll we'll review
2:00:05
that movie end of the day. So that is that for Godfather
2:00:09
Part 2. Thank you so much for listening.
2:00:12
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2:00:15
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2:00:17
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