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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh. There's Chuck.
- 0:07Speaker 1: There's other Josh who's basically fast becoming. He's gunning at
- 0:12Speaker 1: Jerry's heels. I would say, Chuck. When't you agree? Well,
- 0:14Speaker 1: I think at the very least he's the new Frank
- 0:16Speaker 1: the chair. For sure. He may soon be the new bird,
- 0:20Speaker 1: the bobbing bird. Oh that's right. Yeah. At any rate,
- 0:24Speaker 1: we're glad Josh is here, and we just almost two
- 0:27Speaker 1: inanimate objects. Exactly. We just ate up about a third
- 0:31Speaker 1: of our time. So let's we're gonna have to remove
- 0:34Speaker 1: the ending from this one. Okay, Yeah, this one is
- 0:36Speaker 1: interesting because I read the original New York Times piece
- 0:39Speaker 1: from nineteen o five or whatever, la la very different
- 0:43Speaker 1: than the story we get here in a lot of ways.
- 0:45Speaker 1: So I can't wait to who knows, Let's just I'll
- 0:48Speaker 1: just point out what the New York Times article said
- 0:50Speaker 1: compared to what we have in front of us. Do
- 0:52Speaker 1: it like a cranky I T guy when I say something,
- 0:55Speaker 1: just be like wrong? Well, who knows? It is New
- 0:58Speaker 1: York Times, But I don't know what There's andreds were
- 1:00Speaker 1: like in nineteen five. I don't know either, right, Um,
- 1:08Speaker 1: So there's this this article from How Stuff Works that
- 1:11Speaker 1: we found um does a really good job of of
- 1:15Speaker 1: of placing this in context in the world and saying
- 1:19Speaker 1: that in Sanskrit, the word for coconut is kalpa vershka,
- 1:25Speaker 1: which means tree which gives all that is necessary for living,
- 1:30Speaker 1: which is a mouthful. I mean, that says a lot
- 1:31Speaker 1: about what you're saying about the coconut. You're saying, you
- 1:34Speaker 1: don't need anything else but this one tree. That's how
- 1:37Speaker 1: great this tree is. Yeah, and that's also just a
- 1:40Speaker 1: slightly fancier way than saying Webster's defines a little blank
- 1:45Speaker 1: a little bit. It's it's definitely fancier, for sure. It's
- 1:48Speaker 1: it's got like cursive everywhere. But the whole point is it,
- 1:52Speaker 1: coconuts m m are pretty fun and good to eat
- 1:56Speaker 1: and offer a decent amount of nutrition. It is it
- 1:59Speaker 1: turns out that the sans Christs were saying is quite wrong,
- 2:02Speaker 1: like it's not everything you need. You couldn't just subsist
- 2:05Speaker 1: on coconuts. And there was actually a guy who was
- 2:08Speaker 1: born in eighteen seventy five named August Engelhardt who who
- 2:12Speaker 1: basically proved that inadvertently it wasn't his intention to prove
- 2:15Speaker 1: that the Sanskrit term was wrong, but um, he actually
- 2:18Speaker 1: took it to heart, um and and tried to live
- 2:22Speaker 1: exclusively on coconuts because he believed that all you needed
- 2:25Speaker 1: was coconuts and sunlight. And uh ended up living on
- 2:28Speaker 1: I don't want to say deserted island, but certainly a
- 2:31Speaker 1: sparsely populated island. Um living and dying there to to
- 2:35Speaker 1: spoil the ending. Yeah, yeah, this is uh interesting mostly
- 2:40Speaker 1: to me because it was when it happened. He was
- 2:44Speaker 1: born in eighteen seventy Like, if this happened in the
- 2:46Speaker 1: nineteen seventies would be like, sure, of course this happens
- 2:49Speaker 1: all the time. But this guy was born in eighteen
- 2:51Speaker 1: seventy five in Germany, and then after college sort of
- 2:55Speaker 1: became uh well there's a lot of debate and whether
- 2:58Speaker 1: or not he was mentally ill, but regardless of that,
- 3:01Speaker 1: he became very much into the Laban's Reform, which is
- 3:04Speaker 1: life reform movement. Basically what you would think of these
- 3:08Speaker 1: days is like a very sixties hippie American thing they
- 3:12Speaker 1: were doing, I guess in Germany in the you know,
- 3:16Speaker 1: early twentieth century. Yeah, I took it to be kind
- 3:20Speaker 1: of like a prototype for Goop, for who for Goop,
- 3:25Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow's site. Oh good lord, Yeah, that's that's kind
- 3:29Speaker 1: of I mean, like raw foods, alternative medicine. There was
- 3:32Speaker 1: a lot of crossover between what this guy believed and
- 3:36Speaker 1: what you could find on like some of the sites
- 3:38Speaker 1: that Coop endorses and coop itself, especially if you take
- 3:41Speaker 1: into account this book that he wrote, Um, it sounds
- 3:44Speaker 1: a lot like the advice that Goop offers these days.
- 3:48Speaker 1: You got sand Coop Coop so in he wrote a book,
- 3:53Speaker 1: uh called a care Free Future colon the New Gospel Semicolon.
- 3:59Speaker 1: That's rare glimpse into the depth and distance for the
- 4:02Speaker 1: selection of mankind, comma comma for the reflection of all
- 4:07Speaker 1: comma for consideration and stimulation. And he should have just
- 4:12Speaker 1: put an exclamation point at the end, just over all spaces.
- 4:15Speaker 1: He missed that Oxford comma after consideration though. But it
- 4:19Speaker 1: was a kind of a cookie book. He talked about life,
- 4:21Speaker 1: his lifestyle and what you know he believed his version
- 4:24Speaker 1: of the Laban's reform was. And then he also wrote
- 4:26Speaker 1: poems about coconuts. Yeah, like mother Coconut, The Coconut Spirit,
- 4:30Speaker 1: How to Become a Coconut. Those were titles of some
- 4:32Speaker 1: of the poems and tracks that he included in this book.
- 4:35Speaker 1: And like, it's really hard to overstate just how much
- 4:39Speaker 1: faith this guy placed in the coconut as the source
- 4:42Speaker 1: of not just life but health. And um it was based.
- 4:49Speaker 1: It was based on some somewhat unfounded ideas. So it
- 4:53Speaker 1: tied in very much with an idea that he had
- 4:55Speaker 1: that the sun was the source of all life in
- 4:58Speaker 1: the universe, and that coconuts grew on coconut palms um
- 5:03Speaker 1: toward the top, just like the brain in the human
- 5:07Speaker 1: head does. And since the brain is closest to the sun,
- 5:11Speaker 1: coconuts are closest to the sun. Ergo the coconut can
- 5:16Speaker 1: care for the brain and everything else you need in life.
- 5:19Speaker 1: And um, that was it. Yeah, that probably would have
- 5:22Speaker 1: been the end of his story had he not had
- 5:24Speaker 1: a substantial amount of money. Uh. I was about to
- 5:27Speaker 1: say donated, but I guess he inherited it from a relative,
- 5:30Speaker 1: so he had some cash. All of a sudden, he
- 5:32Speaker 1: bought a hundred and eighty five acres of land on
- 5:35Speaker 1: a tiny little island called kabakan Um off of Papa
- 5:40Speaker 1: what is now known as Papua New Guinea, and he
- 5:44Speaker 1: took a long books, got rid of most of his
- 5:47Speaker 1: clothes and went out there and lived um by himself.
- 5:52Speaker 1: Well not by himself because there uh, there are indigenous
- 5:56Speaker 1: peoples in the area, but he was certainly the only
- 5:59Speaker 1: white German there right. And his whole jam was that
- 6:02Speaker 1: he he had either heard or figured out that that
- 6:06Speaker 1: humans had evolved in the subtropics, between Tropic of Cancer
- 6:10Speaker 1: and Tropic of Capricorn. And that's what we were basically
- 6:13Speaker 1: evolved too, That's where we were evolved to be. So
- 6:16Speaker 1: the idea of living in like a house and driving
- 6:18Speaker 1: a car eventually, I don't know if cars were invented yet,
- 6:21Speaker 1: but I'm sure this guy prefigured them. Um. The idea
- 6:26Speaker 1: of just basically living in a boxing, cubicalized, stuffy life.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It was and athetical of how we were designed by
- 6:34Speaker 1: evolution or natural selection or even God if that's your bag, right,
- 6:38Speaker 1: And so he moved to this island so that he
- 6:40Speaker 1: could wander around naked, walking under the sun, eating coconuts,
- 6:45Speaker 1: living how This guy genuinely believed humans were meant to live.
- 6:49Speaker 1: And from what I can tell, he fully expected to
- 6:53Speaker 1: basically be free of all disease and any kind of
- 6:56Speaker 1: terrible condition living this way. But that's not the way
- 7:00Speaker 1: that it ended up at all. No, because, first of all, coconuts,
- 7:04Speaker 1: you cannot live on coconut alone. Um. They do have
- 7:07Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff in there. They have good
- 7:08Speaker 1: carbs and fat and stuff like that, but they lack
- 7:11Speaker 1: a lot of vitamins, notably B twelve, B six A K,
- 7:17Speaker 1: calcium um and protein. There's a little bit of protein,
- 7:21Speaker 1: about three to three grams or so, uh, but that's
- 7:26Speaker 1: that's not very much protein. So if you're gonna eat
- 7:29Speaker 1: enough coconuts to supply your body, and he was about
- 7:32Speaker 1: five ft eight, didn't weigh a lot and weighed increasingly
- 7:36Speaker 1: less as time went on, Obviously he would have had
- 7:38Speaker 1: to been eating, you know, between fourteen and eighteen coconuts
- 7:41Speaker 1: a day. That's a lot of coconuts. But I mean,
- 7:44Speaker 1: if that's all you're doing, if you're wandering around naked
- 7:46Speaker 1: on an island, reading some books, you got time to
- 7:50Speaker 1: eat fourteen to eighteen coconuts a day. So he could have,
- 7:53Speaker 1: but it's not clear that he knew he needed to
- 7:55Speaker 1: eat that amount. And it's also not clear that he
- 7:57Speaker 1: would have responded to that information. So he didn't and
- 8:01Speaker 1: he started to wither away, which, as you said, um,
- 8:05Speaker 1: probably would have been the end of the story had
- 8:08Speaker 1: this guy actually not managed to convince other people through
- 8:12Speaker 1: his book and then through correspondence with them to come
- 8:15Speaker 1: join them. And so people started to show up on
- 8:17Speaker 1: this island. And we'll talk about what happened after that
- 8:20Speaker 1: after this. Alright, So this this is where the New
- 8:45Speaker 1: York Times story has diverged already. Okay, they wrote an
- 8:49Speaker 1: article and everyone, if you don't know that The New
- 8:51Speaker 1: York Times has pretty much every article they've ever written,
- 8:55Speaker 1: uh scanned online. It's kind of great. Yeah, it's uh.
- 8:59Speaker 1: So there was an article failure of a womanless Eden
- 9:01Speaker 1: in the Pacific Dash, a strange story from the South seas.
- 9:06Speaker 1: As the New York Times tells it, only two people
- 9:10Speaker 1: joined the Sona Norton cult the Order of the Sun
- 9:14Speaker 1: cult um. This article that we have says, and I'm
- 9:17Speaker 1: inclined to go with ours, because you know, investigative journalism
- 9:21Speaker 1: has gotten better since nineteen UM. But the New York
- 9:26Speaker 1: Times set a boat showed up in the end that
- 9:28Speaker 1: he was thought was going to be full of like
- 9:31Speaker 1: twenty people and there was only two guys. Uh. The
- 9:34Speaker 1: rest of the people got worried that the island was
- 9:36Speaker 1: full of cannibals and decided not to show up. Which
- 9:40Speaker 1: if that's wrong, it sounds like it was completely made
- 9:43Speaker 1: up by the by the writer, because our thing says
- 9:46Speaker 1: that about fifteen people showed up, uh and took their
- 9:49Speaker 1: clothes off, and we're basically like, let's do this. Um.
- 9:53Speaker 1: They did agree on the two two dudes though one
- 9:56Speaker 1: one guy's name was Einrich Yukin's. He was four years old,
- 10:01Speaker 1: he was a vegetarian, and he was away down with this, uh.
- 10:04Speaker 1: And the other was very famous person actually um or
- 10:07Speaker 1: at least medium famous in Germany at the time. Um,
- 10:11Speaker 1: that's a lot of qualifiers. His name was Max Lutzow
- 10:15Speaker 1: and he was a concert pianist and eventually conductor of
- 10:19Speaker 1: the Lutzeu Orchestra in Berlin. Right. So, so Yukin's and
- 10:23Speaker 1: lets ou basically showed up, from what I understand, and said,
- 10:27Speaker 1: we're here, Um, we're very enthusiastic for this. Let's see
- 10:31Speaker 1: some coconuts. They took their clothes off, they started to
- 10:33Speaker 1: live this way. Um. But there were two big problems
- 10:37Speaker 1: for for um Yukon's It was that he his body
- 10:41Speaker 1: did not take to this diet despite from what I understand,
- 10:44Speaker 1: being a vegetarian, if not a vegan ahead of time. Right, Still,
- 10:48Speaker 1: the coconuts got him. Maybe had an allergy, maybe he
- 10:51Speaker 1: got too much sign who knows, but he died. This
- 10:54Speaker 1: article from how Stuff Works puts that he dropped dead
- 10:57Speaker 1: within weeks of showing up and starting this this coconut subsistence.
- 11:01Speaker 1: New York Times confirms that, okay, good, all right, so
- 11:04Speaker 1: we've got a fact. We've we've unearthed the fact here too.
- 11:07Speaker 1: It's double double sourced, um unless our house stuff Works
- 11:11Speaker 1: article used that New York Times as a source. That's
- 11:14Speaker 1: how facts get generated. And then the other guy loots
- 11:17Speaker 1: out the conductor. He was doing fine and apparently he
- 11:22Speaker 1: got along with um August angel Heart, the leader of
- 11:27Speaker 1: this cult. But um he also they had they had
- 11:30Speaker 1: varying tastes in music, and that actually created a bit
- 11:34Speaker 1: of tension between the two. Yeah, apparently, let's out. I'm
- 11:37Speaker 1: sorry Inglehart hated but Set. I think let's love but Set.
- 11:43Speaker 1: And it says that lets brought his music collection. The
- 11:48Speaker 1: only thing I can figure is that he brought over
- 11:49Speaker 1: he was a violinist as well. That he brought a violin,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I don't know. He could have probably one of those
- 11:54Speaker 1: cranky gramophones maybe, you know, or maybe a bird with
- 11:58Speaker 1: a beak like Flintstone style, or maybe a person dressed
- 12:03Speaker 1: like a bird who could take direction really well. Yeah,
- 12:06Speaker 1: maybe he did bring records. Uh, I mean, Augus Inglehart
- 12:11Speaker 1: brought books. He could certainly bring a crank up record player.
- 12:16Speaker 1: So maybe that's what happened. But they they got the
- 12:19Speaker 1: way The New York Times described it as they started
- 12:21Speaker 1: getting into arguments about music. Uh. And because it was
- 12:25Speaker 1: just the two of them, according to that article, it
- 12:27Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna get a little crazy after a while.
- 12:30Speaker 1: And looks I was like, I don't want to spend
- 12:32Speaker 1: the night hit next to you tonight. Um And he
- 12:35Speaker 1: applied for permission, supposedly with Inglehart, to go spend the
- 12:39Speaker 1: night on a missionary boat that was nearby. Um at
- 12:44Speaker 1: one of the other it was a bunch of islands around,
- 12:46Speaker 1: and I guess Inglehart granted him this. He went on
- 12:49Speaker 1: board this boat, he spent the night. He would refuse
- 12:52Speaker 1: to eat any of the food that they had and
- 12:54Speaker 1: apparently there was a storm that prevented him from getting
- 12:57Speaker 1: back to his coconut paradise, and he died. Yes, he died.
- 13:02Speaker 1: And if there were so, if two people showed up
- 13:08Speaker 1: of the visitors died, but even if there were more
- 13:12Speaker 1: in this house stuff works articles, right, because this guy
- 13:15Speaker 1: carried this guy, August Engelhardt, he carried on even after
- 13:18Speaker 1: these two deaths, um for more than a decade beyond
- 13:22Speaker 1: that that New York Times articles. So maybe more people
- 13:25Speaker 1: showed up afterward, and that accounts for the discrepancy. But
- 13:28Speaker 1: as this how stuff Works article tells it, um, more
- 13:30Speaker 1: people showed up, More people died from things like the hydration,
- 13:34Speaker 1: heat stroke. Um. And then this one, this is tough
- 13:37Speaker 1: to swallow. If it is true, then there is a
- 13:41Speaker 1: creator God who does take pleasure in and and messing
- 13:44Speaker 1: with us. But somebody died from being hit by a coconut.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Somebody in the coconut worshiping cult died from being killed
- 13:54Speaker 1: or died from a coconut injury. Which happens, Sure it does,
- 13:58Speaker 1: it does, But I mean imagine traveling from Germany in
- 14:02Speaker 1: the nineteenth century early twentieth century, showing up to eat
- 14:05Speaker 1: nothing but coconuts and then dying because of coconut hit
- 14:08Speaker 1: you on the head. Pretty ironic. It is pretty ironic.
- 14:12Speaker 1: So um August Engelhardt himself died too, but he hung
- 14:15Speaker 1: on for a really long time, considering he had the
- 14:19Speaker 1: true grit of somebody who really would have just eating
- 14:23Speaker 1: eaten coconuts. From what I can tell, yeah, I mean,
- 14:26Speaker 1: there are some pictures, some rare photos at the time
- 14:28Speaker 1: from people who, uh, I guess we're nearby, and he
- 14:32Speaker 1: he looked awful. He looked like he would expect someone
- 14:34Speaker 1: to look. They describe him as a bearded bag of bones.
- 14:38Speaker 1: There were lesions on his body. It was clear that
- 14:40Speaker 1: he was suffering from severe malnutrition. As the New York
- 14:44Speaker 1: Times tells it, he eventually was one of these missionary
- 14:48Speaker 1: boats came and got him and literally wrestled him onto
- 14:52Speaker 1: a boat, where he fought them physically as best he
- 14:55Speaker 1: could while they tried to care for him. It's probably
- 14:58Speaker 1: not not much now, until he jumped off the boat
- 15:01Speaker 1: to swim back to the island where he died. According
- 15:04Speaker 1: to our article and perhaps further you know, more accurate research,
- 15:09Speaker 1: he he did go on that boat. He was kind
- 15:11Speaker 1: of nurse back to semi health and then left again,
- 15:14Speaker 1: went back to the island. Um survived until nineteen fourteen,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and then because of World War One, he was captured
- 15:22Speaker 1: as a prisoner of war. Released from camp when they
- 15:26Speaker 1: realized he was mentally ill, They're like, wait, what is
- 15:28Speaker 1: this about coconuts? You're saying uh? And he carried on
- 15:31Speaker 1: apparently until nineteen nineteen, when he died at the age
- 15:35Speaker 1: of forty four, weighing less than seventy pounds. So this
- 15:37Speaker 1: guy did this for like maybe years ish, Yeah, I
- 15:42Speaker 1: mean eighteen years. That's impressive. Man. Hats off to this
- 15:46Speaker 1: guy for that level of commitment. So that's the story
- 15:49Speaker 1: of August angle Heart. You can learn more about him
- 15:52Speaker 1: on How Stuff Works. They wrote this article. I also
- 15:55Speaker 1: want to just throw my two cents in and say
- 15:58Speaker 1: I would put pretty decent money on the idea that
- 16:01Speaker 1: angle Heart spent at least a significant amount of time
- 16:04Speaker 1: married to a coconut on the island probably, so uh.
- 16:07Speaker 1: Well with that, everyone, we bid you adieu from short Stuff.
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