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Publix Tailgate Show: Cecil Shorts III - Texans vs. Jaguars · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It's time to go behind enemy lines, and we do
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  Speaker 1: it this week with a guy that used to be
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  Speaker 1: on the good side. Now he's on the other side
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  Speaker 1: of Sorts Cecil Shorts, the third former Jaguars receiver former
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  Speaker 1: Texans receiver, now contributes to six ten Sports radio and
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  Speaker 1: Houston covers the Houston Texans Cecil. It's always good to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you. What's up, JP man? Are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: But we're hanging in there. One in six we're barely
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  Speaker 1: hanging in there. Six straight losses, So it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. Both teams coming off the bye week this
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  Speaker 1: week another divisional game, the Jags and the Texans. Let's
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  Speaker 1: start with the state of the Texans organization. Bill O'Brien,
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  Speaker 1: the GM and head coach is gone. That happened the
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  Speaker 1: week of the previous Jaguars matchup in Week five. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: they Texans got to win that week against the Jacks.
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  Speaker 1: What is the feel these days with O'Brien gone now
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks into that, you know, is it one
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  Speaker 1: of those where they're just trying to make their way
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  Speaker 1: through this season and then move ahead. What's the fuel
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  Speaker 1: overall the organization these days? Well, I think the organizations
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  Speaker 1: it feels like they have a shot like that. They
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like they're that bad of a team. You know,
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  Speaker 1: their record says they're what one and six, similar to
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars um but if you look at the roster,
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  Speaker 1: they should be better than what they are. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the team, and I think the Romeo Carnal and
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  Speaker 1: the organization, Kyle mcnar and those guys, they think they're
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  Speaker 1: better than what they are. They're trying to do the
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  Speaker 1: best they can with what they have. UM there, they
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  Speaker 1: still have of of a flicker of hope that they
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  Speaker 1: can turn this thing around. But to be honest, when
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  Speaker 1: you got number four back there and you've got some
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  Speaker 1: guys to some guys that can make plays on the offense,
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  Speaker 1: I understand where they're coming from. But the state of
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  Speaker 1: the franchise is they still have hope. They's didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to fight, They're still trying to win CE. So of
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  Speaker 1: course you mentioned number four, Deshaun Watson the quarterback. They
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  Speaker 1: have a left tackle that they've paid a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money too as well. How much that those are really
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  Speaker 1: the faces of the organization. JJ Watts still there on
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  Speaker 1: the other side, Yes, how much will those guys have
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  Speaker 1: a say or commentary into what happens in the future
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  Speaker 1: at the head coaching position. I'll be honest, I think
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  Speaker 1: de Sean is, like you said, the franchise. UM, I
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  Speaker 1: think he'll have the most say going forward about who
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  Speaker 1: they're going to bring in as an o C. Who
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  Speaker 1: are they gonna bring in as the head coach? Um,
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  Speaker 1: he had to say who, in my opinion, you have
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  Speaker 1: to say on certain players that he may want to
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  Speaker 1: attract here. Right, just this going out of recruiting doing
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  Speaker 1: something similar to what the NBA does. As far as hey,
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  Speaker 1: come on't to come try us out, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: got a new coach here, whatever case may be, so things, UM,
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  Speaker 1: as far as that the Sean is gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stay now JJ, I'm not so sure. This
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  Speaker 1: contract situation is not guaranteed now. Um, he's getting older,
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  Speaker 1: he is producing, he still is producing. UM, but I
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  Speaker 1: was I wouldn't be surprised if he will not be
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  Speaker 1: in a Texas uniform next year. For him, he's in
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  Speaker 1: a situation where his brothers on a pretty good team.
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  Speaker 1: Both his brothers on a pretty good team, undefeated Pittsburgh Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: and he also dreams of playing for the Green Bay Packers.
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  Speaker 1: He grew up in Wisconsin, so I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if he, Um, maybe let was was let go. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure exactly what it is, but I knows can
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  Speaker 1: contract is not guaranteed. I won't be surprised if he
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  Speaker 1: steps on another team wants to play somewhere somewhereas that
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  Speaker 1: they can possibly be a winner right now. The thing
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  Speaker 1: about bringing new coach down the new GM in, they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna bring their guys and who they want on the
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  Speaker 1: staff right who they want on the roster, so it
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  Speaker 1: maybe some turnover and who knows they're gonna be good
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  Speaker 1: right away? Um and j J might not be looking
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  Speaker 1: for that. So I'm not sure if he will have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of say or if he even wants to
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  Speaker 1: say anything and be around but jail but Deshune for sure, Um,
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot of say, who's the head coach,
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  Speaker 1: certain players everything? J J. Watson in the face of
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  Speaker 1: the Texans since he stepped footing the building down there.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, cecil and there was all that talk the
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  Speaker 1: last few weeks that the Texans could be in the
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  Speaker 1: trading game before the deadline, considering they don't have really
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  Speaker 1: any high picks in the next year or two after
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  Speaker 1: all the deals that were made, how close were they
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  Speaker 1: to dealing what and Fuller and maybe some guys like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what my me, Dolphins are really happy
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  Speaker 1: right now, but things keep going away if they are.
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  Speaker 1: For the Houston Texas, they got their first and second
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  Speaker 1: round pick, so they'll be they'll be pretty ecstatic about that.
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  Speaker 1: But um, they were fielding everything. They were fielding all
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  Speaker 1: the calls on Fuller, on wide on whoever, um else,
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  Speaker 1: Jacob Martin who deepens it in outside linebacker type from
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  Speaker 1: for the for the Texas, they were fielding calls and
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  Speaker 1: everybody that they take them serious as the question right,
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  Speaker 1: and they wanted a lot for Fuller. They know the
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  Speaker 1: situation where they don't have a second they don't have
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  Speaker 1: a first round pick this year, and they knew, for example,
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay really needed another receiver to help out with
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  Speaker 1: Darren Roddy and need another weapon with Davante Adams down there.
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  Speaker 1: But they weren't just gonna take coach from your Carnal said, peanuts,
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  Speaker 1: we need something, we need something real, We need something
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  Speaker 1: good in return. And um, they were willing to listen
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of offers, but nothing came across where
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  Speaker 1: they thought it would benefit those guys. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: they want to win. They still think they can win,
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  Speaker 1: right and Will Fuller was one of their is their
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  Speaker 1: number one receiver. So you take your deshan to watch
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  Speaker 1: the number one target away for peanuts for nothing. That
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  Speaker 1: is a situation where you know you're kind of giving
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  Speaker 1: up the season and that, and you're like you're taking
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  Speaker 1: almost when you tank, you know you really tank for
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe a draft pick or so, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't have draft picks. So here the situation where you
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuck. So the only way they're going to
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  Speaker 1: give up what or Fuller or anybody to get something
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  Speaker 1: pretty good in return. And I don't think they found
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  Speaker 1: anything out there they really loved in return for those guys.
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  Speaker 1: So um, definitely, they definitely field it and and did
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  Speaker 1: their due diligence as far as uh taking the cause,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing they loved it all. You know, how attractive
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  Speaker 1: is this gig? You know, if they don't win this year,
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  Speaker 1: then there aren't draft picks. You do have a quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: but how do you build around and how attractive is
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  Speaker 1: the opening if there is one in Houston? That's that is.
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  Speaker 1: That is a great question, JP, because you think about it.
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  Speaker 1: The cap room they're in, it's not very good. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you talked about the draft picks. They don't have a
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  Speaker 1: first or second next year. Um, have your quarterback, you
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  Speaker 1: have your left tackle, You've got some young offensive lineman. Um.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at your receiver and chorus like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: they're all kind of older or in any any of
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  Speaker 1: their contracts and who knows how much longer they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be around. You have an aging running back in David
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  Speaker 1: Johnson that you traded the second round pick for, that
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  Speaker 1: you traded for DeAndre Hopkins for. But I'm even gonna
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  Speaker 1: get mad about that. I'm not even gonna get upset.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Jaguar fans are like, good, he's out of
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  Speaker 1: the he's out of the division. But all the Texas
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  Speaker 1: fans are like, look at him in Arizona. He's leaving
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  Speaker 1: the league and everything. But anyways, sorry, that's that's off topic.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I think the Shoine is the main
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  Speaker 1: thing here. You know, you you go out and you
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  Speaker 1: get an Eric b enemy possibly, Um, he can go
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  Speaker 1: in there and do some things, um hopefully, but it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see who they get who wants
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  Speaker 1: to come. If I had to scale from one to ten,
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  Speaker 1: one being nobody's gonna be interested, ten being you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's interested. I'll probably say a five or six. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just not sold on how much a head coach or
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  Speaker 1: o C or a GM would be wanting to come here.
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  Speaker 1: The sound is amazing, no doubt about it. But everything
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  Speaker 1: else around him, you're kind of rebuilding almost so, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, not now, no cap room, no draft capital,
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting to see what happens. Ceecil On
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  Speaker 1: the other side, today, the Jaguars are starting Jake Lewton,
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  Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback out of Oregon State. Gardner Mintshew has
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  Speaker 1: a thumb issue, of course, as a veteran receiver, and
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  Speaker 1: there aren't many of this Jaguars roster. Chris Connelly is
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  Speaker 1: that DJ Sharks in his third year, Coles in his
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  Speaker 1: fourth years. There's there's a few. There's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of experience, but not a whole lot. You know, how
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  Speaker 1: do you help a young guy come in. He hasn't
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  Speaker 1: played any preseason games, he hasn't had an off season
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  Speaker 1: program on the field. All of a sudden, he's lining
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  Speaker 1: up against what in the Texans defense this week? How
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  Speaker 1: challenging is that for this Jack's offense. Well, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what, if you want to play any defense, probably
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  Speaker 1: would be the Texas defense. They are they aren't that
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  Speaker 1: well this year. Um, they got some things to work on.
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  Speaker 1: But to help a young quarterback, you gotta make plays.
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  Speaker 1: I think it starts with offensive coordinator. You gotta make
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  Speaker 1: a simple game plan. Um, this is what week nine,
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  Speaker 1: week eight of the season, so halfway through, so he
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  Speaker 1: should have a good a good grip on you know,
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  Speaker 1: the play calls and how they do things there. And
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  Speaker 1: he's he's I'm assuming he's gotting some type of reps
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  Speaker 1: um even on scouts, and you get some type of
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  Speaker 1: reps and understand the play call and you you should
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  Speaker 1: be okay. But it's it's a different game where you're
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  Speaker 1: out there playing first, playing and practice right to speed
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  Speaker 1: and practice and game is two different things. So to
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  Speaker 1: go against some veterans like watching those guys will be
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  Speaker 1: eye opening. But as a receiver, they gotta make plays
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  Speaker 1: for him. He's not gonna make the perfect throw every time,
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  Speaker 1: the perfect read. Go out there and make plays for
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  Speaker 1: the kids. Go out there and encourage them, UM, and
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  Speaker 1: then when your numbers called, just do the best you can. UM.
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  Speaker 1: But it's gonna be tough for the rookie. I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: he does well. I'm always rooting for the Jaguars. I
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  Speaker 1: was surprised that Mike Glennon wouldn't get the start. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta tell me about that. I thought I thought Glenna
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  Speaker 1: would get the tug over there. I played with him
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  Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay. I thought he might get the the
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  Speaker 1: start over over the rookie. Well, it sounds like they've
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  Speaker 1: seen what they've seen out of Mike Klennen, right, he's
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  Speaker 1: been the backup here. They know what he is. He's
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  Speaker 1: played in the league before as you played with him.
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  Speaker 1: But they've drafted Jake Luton and he's a sixth round pick,
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  Speaker 1: and you gotta see what the kid has. And I
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  Speaker 1: think they're almost to that mode now of seeing some
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  Speaker 1: of these young guys out here on the field to
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  Speaker 1: see what they have as the season goes along. So
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  Speaker 1: this goes right into that narrative. I think that that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. I mean, I believe they got two first
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  Speaker 1: round picks next year, one from the Rams and then
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  Speaker 1: the second rounder from Minnesota, maybe from the Yonick trade,
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  Speaker 1: so that that makes sense. You're in You're in a
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  Speaker 1: position unlike Houston where you can see your young guys
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  Speaker 1: out see what you got. Um, I mean they're they're
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  Speaker 1: running back Robinson. Oh my gosh, how good is he?
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  Speaker 1: And he, by the way, my fantasy team, thank you Robinson. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he's been outstanding for me on fantasy y. That's that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I understand that. See what you got
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  Speaker 1: in the rookie and they and and go from there.
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  Speaker 1: I still thinking, this is my humble opinion on Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: I like Minshew, I do. I don't. He's not superstar,
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  Speaker 1: but I do think he can get the job done
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  Speaker 1: and for me, and maybe just me because I played with,
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  Speaker 1: to be honest, not so good quarterbacks. I wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: best receiver anyway, But I just see something in the
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  Speaker 1: Menshew he has. He has the charisma, he has the attitude,
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  Speaker 1: he works hard, he's a fun guy to play for
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  Speaker 1: his things like and I just want to see him succeeds.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I'm just being too nice, all right, So
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  Speaker 1: to that point, this is I'm glad you brought this up. Cecil, Cecil,
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  Speaker 1: the third with us. You said it you played with
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  Speaker 1: some quarterbacks who maybe weren't top to your quarterbacks. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's that's fair. How frustrating can it be when
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  Speaker 1: it is so inconsistent and maybe the balls not where
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  Speaker 1: it should be sometimes or things just start clicking, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it is because of the quarterback play.
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  Speaker 1: It's frustrating, man, like you, there's no chemistry built, there's
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  Speaker 1: no trust building. The quarterback starts looking over their shoulder
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  Speaker 1: for every single, you know, mistake they make, and it's
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  Speaker 1: tough for the quarterback to even trust themselves anymore, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like, okay, every time make a mistake,
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  Speaker 1: you know, people are gonna start boring and the chatter
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  Speaker 1: starts coming. They're gonna take me out. So it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's just a mess. Man. It's a tough situation to
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  Speaker 1: being as a quarterback as a receiver, and you try
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  Speaker 1: your best to make the place when they come your
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  Speaker 1: way as a receiver, but it's just like sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: know that pressure is put on the quarterback and they
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  Speaker 1: have nothing to do, but they forced the ball and
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  Speaker 1: make bad decisions and they can't beat themselves, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? So you's just a not a good
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  Speaker 1: situation to be in. So alright, final thoughts with it here,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get away from the Jags Texans game, because
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is. One in six teams going at it.
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing now? I know you're on six
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  Speaker 1: ten radio in Houston. You contribute on Texans TV sometimes
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  Speaker 1: as well. I see you on on social media something.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel the rest of your time now, cecil? Well,
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  Speaker 1: my wife and I got seven kids, so a majority
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  Speaker 1: of the time that goes to them. Let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you a quick story. Nobody told you this already. We
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  Speaker 1: had four and then my wife wanted to try for
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  Speaker 1: one more. So we have boy, girl, board girl. Perfect scenario, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's two and two. I can take two boys,
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  Speaker 1: you can take the two girls. We can switch it.
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  Speaker 1: You take a board and girl. I take a boy
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  Speaker 1: and a girl. You know what, we can have daddy's
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  Speaker 1: daughter day out of something like that. I take the girls,
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  Speaker 1: you take the boards. Right, It's perfect. No no need
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  Speaker 1: for another one. The wife wants one more, Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we tried for one more. You know, happy wife, happy life.
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  Speaker 1: We end up with triplets. Triplets. It's like a one
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  Speaker 1: in twenty thou thirty thousand chances that you get natural triplets.
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  Speaker 1: We got triplets. I should have played the lottery, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so triples and all three of them are girls, all three.
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  Speaker 1: So it went from two and two to five and two,
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  Speaker 1: five girls, two boys. So um, A lot of my
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  Speaker 1: time to answer you a question has been spent with them,
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  Speaker 1: um much as I can. But also, I'm coaching high
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  Speaker 1: school football down here. I'm a assistant UH coach down here,
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver coach and um my help with the offensive
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  Speaker 1: play calling. My first year coaching, so it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. I'm down here at Second Baptist High School
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  Speaker 1: and we're actually four and one this year and we
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  Speaker 1: got a good shot to to make a run for
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  Speaker 1: the States. So it's exciting. We've got some good little players.
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  Speaker 1: It's different though. It's different uh preparing than playing because
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  Speaker 1: you gotta worry about a lot more. It's just totally different.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm learning a lot. I'm with a good coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff man, so it's it's a lot of fun. And um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm also doing some pe teaching down here at a
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  Speaker 1: small school, so I'm I'm enjoying life, man, just being
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  Speaker 1: a normal or normal citizen. Well, you know, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: one way to even out to the family situation. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have three boys, no, JP, no, no no, there's no
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  Speaker 1: possible way for us to have kids anymore if we
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  Speaker 1: have giars now caused Mary and josephin No. Seven is enough.
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  Speaker 1: We did our part. Now, it's not everybody. We did
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  Speaker 1: our part. Seven. Lord, he's thanks for your contributions to society.
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it for keeping us alive. Cecil. Good to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you as always. Man enjoying the game this
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  Speaker 1: week and good luck with the coaching gig down there.
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  Speaker 1: He appreciate you. JP. Always fun