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Defining Shutdown Down

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They’re calling it the liddlest, tiniest government shutdown of all time. Democrats are demanding changes to policy that helps Trump’s immigration police get away with abuses. So they’ve shut down the Department of Homeland Security and only the Department of Homeland Security.

In this episode, Matt and Brian discuss:

* How we ended up with such a narrow shutdown, instead of one that spanned multiple cabinet departments;

* Whether this was a mistake or a savvy move;

* What success (or “success”) might look like…

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