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Mac & Bone Show - Chuck Oliver Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The other thing we've got to talk a bunch about
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  Speaker 1: today is the first college football playoff rankings coming out,
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  Speaker 1: the college football weekend of ridiculously great matchups coming up.
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  Speaker 1: We could talk about all that stuff right now with
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  Speaker 1: our next guest, who is the host of the aptly
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  Speaker 1: named Chuck Oliver show bone affiliates all over, all over
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  Speaker 1: the South. Great Southern college football talk. And Chuck Oliver
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  Speaker 1: joins us right now to talk about all this college
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  Speaker 1: football stuff going on.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Chuck, how you doing, man? What's happening?
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  Speaker 3: Doing pretty good. I do have an NFL question.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Against my team, Bryce Young looks like he's worth $ 175
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  Speaker 3: million in a year.
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  Speaker 4: Is he good?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, is he good against other teams?
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  Speaker 1: He's good, but certainly not that level. Like, if he
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  Speaker 1: could play the Falcons every week, I think he'd be
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  Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but it's his turn, so he gets 50 because
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  Speaker 3: it's his turn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is definitely his turn. But I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: He should send a cut of that down to Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: because they have helped.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt they have helped. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so, Chuck, let's talk about— And don't worry
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  Speaker 5: about that Buccaneer thing. We had a problem there, too,
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  Speaker 5: with them not passing on us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was— Falcon pride, all-time low, man.
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  Speaker 2: We feel your pain on that one.
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  Speaker 1: At least Baker completed seven against Duz, but it was
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  Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing, too. Let's talk college football. The rankings have
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  Speaker 1: come out. Miami's won. Then you get to Georgia. Then
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  Speaker 1: you get to Utah, Indiana, and Alabama, and that's just
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  Speaker 1: the top five. There are things here, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's the nature of the season, Chuck, where, hell, Miami's
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  Speaker 1: number one in unbeaten, but even they had close calls
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  Speaker 1: with Florida State and Carolina. Nobody looks great. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot that you can look at
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  Speaker 1: and say, is that team worthy of being there? What
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  Speaker 1: were your biggest takeaways from the rankings?
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  Speaker 3: The first thing was they told Notre Dame, your baby's ugly.
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  Speaker 3: They really did better not lose that game Saturday. And
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  Speaker 3: the truth is that if they would have, and I
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  Speaker 3: also saw a lot of conversation, there's so much that
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  Speaker 3: will be changed on Saturday because of the ranked versus
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  Speaker 3: ranked up and down the schedule on Saturday. And that's
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  Speaker 3: an accurate observation, but that's if you had a goal
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  Speaker 3: of only giving somewhat relevant information. This is supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be TV inventory. So these top 25 that we got
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  Speaker 3: last night, including Boise State, they got told, yeah, here
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  Speaker 3: are your crumbs. You'll continue to get what we got
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  Speaker 3: last night. It will be it will be go outside,
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  Speaker 3: shake the tree, and then everything will be different Saturday
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  Speaker 3: night when we go to bed.
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  Speaker 4: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: But they've got TV inventory to fill. And I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I watched last night. And so Notre Dame was a
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  Speaker 3: big takeaway for me. The fact that Head-to-head must still
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  Speaker 3: count so dang much for them with Kentucky and Alabama.
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  Speaker 3: As far as the SEC goes, LSU, I think, has
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  Speaker 3: the greatest opportunity, and that begins Saturday afternoon. As Lane
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  Speaker 3: reminded us, they've got three huge opportunities. They don't have
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  Speaker 3: a signature win yet. They have some great losses. And
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  Speaker 3: the committee loves nothing more than a great loss. LSU
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have a signature win yet. So Alabama, they've got
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  Speaker 3: coming up. They've got Texas. They've got opportunities coming up.
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  Speaker 3: And so if they are eliminating some other teams from
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs, I think LSU actually has a really good
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  Speaker 3: path in.
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  Speaker 5: Chuck, how wild and difficult is this going to be
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  Speaker 5: for the committee when you look at the SEC teams
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  Speaker 5: and the amount of three-loss teams it looks like are
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  Speaker 5: going to pile up here as the season goes along?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at the details, then sure. And
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be, all right, the 12th seed. And
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  Speaker 3: I guess that's going to be the G-level team. But
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  Speaker 3: then the at-large bids, the rest of them, there could
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  Speaker 3: be a few three-loss teams mixed in there. Don't look
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  Speaker 3: at that. Just look at the brands. That's what they're
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  Speaker 3: going to count on. I mean, we know this. Life
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  Speaker 3: is easier for pretty people. And Ohio State is pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Alabama is pretty. Texas, they really want Texas to be pretty.
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  Speaker 3: So there's going to be, I would say, at least
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  Speaker 3: two three-loss teams, and I think they'll both come from
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  Speaker 3: the Southeastern Conference.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think, too. You talk about three-loss teams
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  Speaker 1: in the SEC. The highest three-loss team in the rankings
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  Speaker 1: was South Carolina. We've got a lot of Gamecock fans
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  Speaker 1: here in Charlotte. Um, God, the way they're playing, the
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  Speaker 1: way sellers plan, it's, it's so fun to watch if they,
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  Speaker 1: they would have to run the table. There's no room
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  Speaker 1: for error, but a Georgia, like, is it, is it,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I guess I'll ask this. Is it
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  Speaker 1: possible to run the table when Georgia's included in the schedule?
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  Speaker 1: And would that even get them in if they ran
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  Speaker 1: the table?
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  Speaker 4: How do you feel?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, that may be what is required to even have
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  Speaker 3: the conversation. Um, because a lot of was just saying,
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  Speaker 3: you know, life's easier for pretty people, South Carolina, they're,
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  Speaker 3: they're not in the club, you know, they're, they're, they
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  Speaker 3: don't have panache. Um, they just, they don't get beyond
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  Speaker 3: the rope. They're just South Carolina football. When you go
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  Speaker 3: to that stadium and then like one corner, I used
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  Speaker 3: to see the George Rogers won the Heisman thing. And
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  Speaker 3: then in the other corner, I would say 1969 ACC champs.
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  Speaker 3: And Um, that team has zero cache with the folks
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  Speaker 3: in that room in grapevine. So, um, beating Texas A & M,
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  Speaker 3: Arkansas and Clemson, all of those are doable. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Vegas may say they're supposed to happen
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  Speaker 3: for all we know. the Georgia game, that is a
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  Speaker 3: bone to be chewed. And that would be one of
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  Speaker 3: the best wins of the season. And at sports, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: honest to God, you're at home. Auburn went on the
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  Speaker 3: road and did an Auburn's not even very good. So honest. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it could happen. I don't think it's going to, I
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  Speaker 3: think you're going to be looking at an eight and
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  Speaker 3: four regular season, but nine and three, sure. It could happen.
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  Speaker 3: And then South Carolina still has a lot in front
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  Speaker 3: of them to get in.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking to great college football voice Chuck Oliver here
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  Speaker 5: on the Mac and Bone Show. Chuck, you've been doing
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  Speaker 5: radio for a long time, so I'm sure you'll appreciate
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  Speaker 5: this segue here to something going on behind the scenes momentarily.
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  Speaker 5: So last night, our news talk station across the hall,
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  Speaker 5: they did their election coverage. They got pizza and wings
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  Speaker 5: at some point in the early evening. Our producer just
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  Speaker 5: walked in. with a plate full of chicken wings, Chuck,
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  Speaker 5: that's been sitting out since about 7 p.m.
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  Speaker 4: Last night. Not even in the fridge, just sitting out.
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  Speaker 3: What's the first digit of his age?
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  Speaker 4: How old are you, Finney?
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  Speaker 2: Just turned 30.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's a two. Yeah, that explains it.
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  Speaker 4: If the first.
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  Speaker 3: Digit is a two, then you still drink Jägermeister and
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  Speaker 3: you look at the wings and go, they were covered. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they were covered while sitting on a counter for 12 hours, but...
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  Speaker 3: They were covered. I was there. I lived that life.
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  Speaker 3: So now it's a little different.
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  Speaker 1: Chuck, you just made the decision for me. My first
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  Speaker 1: digit's a five.
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  Speaker 3: No, you can't go there.
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  Speaker 1: I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 1: I thought about it, and I think you just made
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  Speaker 1: the decision for me.
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  Speaker 3: I can't. The Apostle Paul, in one of his letters
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  Speaker 3: to the Corinthians, wrote, when I grew to be a man,
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  Speaker 3: I put away childish things. Eating leftover pizza and wings
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  Speaker 3: from the night before. Or that's a thing in your 20s.
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  Speaker 5: Chuck, we've been doing this together now for 20-plus years.
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  Speaker 5: One of our first years here, Mac, my co-host here,
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  Speaker 5: we got caught eating pizza out of the trash can.
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  Speaker 5: So we've had to really sort of limit our— Our
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  Speaker 5: first number was a lot lower back then.
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  Speaker 2: It was. A lot lower.
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  Speaker 4: Not our cholesterol, but our number.
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  Speaker 3: Digital fist bump to y'all.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: So the big story in the state of North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: with this playoff is Wake Forest— being 16th a lot
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  Speaker 1: of wake fans are mad a lot of acc fans
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  Speaker 1: are mad because they see all the sec two loss
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  Speaker 1: teams wake with one loss but you got to be
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  Speaker 1: fair about the point that wake um competed with miami
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  Speaker 1: but doesn't have a ranked win um and doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a ranked team on the schedule rest away unfortunately like
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  Speaker 1: do you have sympathy for wake in this situation or
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  Speaker 1: you just look at them and say if you don't
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  Speaker 1: win the sec championship you you you don't have a resume.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they could get a second run in Miami. And
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  Speaker 3: they're nowhere near as good. They're at least as well coached,
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  Speaker 3: if not better. They don't have the fat stacks that
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  Speaker 3: Mario has. And I don't disrespect Mario as a coach,
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  Speaker 3: but I've never seen Jake Dickard have some of his–
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  Speaker 3: Those same sort of fourth quarter, like Mario was trying
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  Speaker 3: to pad the stats against Georgia tech a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years ago. He admitted he was trying to pad the
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  Speaker 3: stats and it was the fumble and the take it
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  Speaker 3: the other way. Jake Dickard does not have that on
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  Speaker 3: his resume. So, all right, I'm going to skip to
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  Speaker 3: the end of the end of the conversation. And it's,
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  Speaker 3: and so wake forest gets left out of the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: That's not the disappointment. That's not the sympathy I have.
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  Speaker 3: It's that demon Deacon fans are borrowing Jake Dickard. Like,
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  Speaker 3: he's there on rental payments. That's all he is. Now,
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  Speaker 3: here's the upside. If you hear him talked about for
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  Speaker 3: Florida State, I don't know. If I'm already not in
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten, and that's what this is, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: You're either in the Big Ten or SEC or you're not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm already not in the Big Ten or SEC,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to unstable Florida State away from stable
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  Speaker 3: Wake Forest. I'm just not doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Great point.
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  Speaker 3: But I am going to an SEC or a big
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  Speaker 3: 10 school if they come right on my cage. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, look what he did with Wazoo. Correctly so.
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  Speaker 3: They handed him, I mean, a jackpot and said, you
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  Speaker 3: deal with this. And because remember Rolovich and the COVID
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  Speaker 3: and then he turned Wazoo into whatever the sorcery he used.
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  Speaker 3: He turned that into a winner. and a competitive enough product.
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  Speaker 3: And he's done it at a wake force as well.
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  Speaker 2: He's brilliant, man.
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  Speaker 5: Chuck, what do you think of the, uh, of the
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  Speaker 5: pending 2014 playoff? What are you, are you for that?
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  Speaker 5: What are your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 3: Okay. This is going to be one of the few
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  Speaker 3: times in sports because I have, I literally on the
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  Speaker 3: side of my fridge, I have a, it says sports rules. Um,
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  Speaker 3: we never take away. We only add. And so this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be an exception to that. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to take away conference championship games. And I got news.
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  Speaker 3: There's no rule. The NCAA, like those aren't NCAA events,
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  Speaker 3: bowl games. Those are municipalities or the lions club or whoever.
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  Speaker 3: The bowl games are going to have a couple of
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  Speaker 3: years and they're going to realize that they just became
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  Speaker 3: not even the NIT. What's the other one, the CBA
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  Speaker 3: or the CBI?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the CBI.
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  Speaker 4: And you got the CIT.
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  Speaker 2: You got the CIA, the ACL.
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  Speaker 4: You got a lot going on there.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine being– by the way, hand raised, I've
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  Speaker 3: been to like five Independence Bowls in my life. I'm
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  Speaker 3: as red as it gets. Can you imagine being a
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  Speaker 3: Heritage Bowl? Like literally like the Liberty Bowl. It's been
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  Speaker 3: there since the 60s. and you're going to go away
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  Speaker 3: in two or three years. And so I think expanding
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  Speaker 3: it to 24 is actually going to reduce the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: We had like 84 teams in the postseason last year.
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  Speaker 3: I think going forward, it will not take very long
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  Speaker 3: until we have 24 in the playoffs And there might
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  Speaker 3: be four or five other bowls scattered around. But for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, this is going to wind up limiting
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  Speaker 3: the postseason, which it needs to be. 84 teams didn't
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  Speaker 3: need to go to a postseason game.
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  Speaker 4: No, definitely not.
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  Speaker 5: Chuck, my whole knowledge, my entire knowledge of companies and
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  Speaker 5: what people are doing in the business world is based
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  Speaker 5: off of the bowl game sponsors. That's how I know
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  Speaker 5: about Bad Boy Mowers.
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  Speaker 2: Man, you ain't going to know.
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  Speaker 4: What are we going to do now without knowing about
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  Speaker 4: Bad Boy Mowers?
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  Speaker 3: I kid you not, man. I have a pool and
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  Speaker 3: weed eater.
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  Speaker 2: So it works. The bowl game sponsors have worked.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly. But you have to understand if it's sports, like
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  Speaker 3: I'm 58 and, And I still buy Hamilton beach because
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  Speaker 3: of Joe Namath and the popcorn popper. You talk about
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  Speaker 3: getting your payoff on an endorsement. That's just, you know, that's,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what companies count on. We get them young
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  Speaker 3: and then we keep this guy for five decades. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's what Joe Namath did to me back in the
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  Speaker 3: seventies with the popcorn machine.
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  Speaker 2: Did he sell pantyhose to you?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't that another thing he was, that.
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  Speaker 3: Was for my sisters and my mom.
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  Speaker 5: That was really, you got some fans on the, uh,
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  Speaker 5: the text line here.
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  Speaker 4: People love you. We have a, a listener to your.
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  Speaker 5: Show, the Chuck Oliver College Football Show, saying that you
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  Speaker 5: give away your dinner on Thursdays.
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  Speaker 4: In a contest?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that is– by the way, we're all in radio, right?
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  Speaker 3: So we all know this. Yeah. If somebody's doing it
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  Speaker 3: in radio, it's already been stolen three times before you
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  Speaker 3: heard it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're getting ready to steal that now, and we're
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  Speaker 1: on the morning. Give away our breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, please do. Please do. No, they give me three
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  Speaker 3: rounds of questions, and I have to go to the
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  Speaker 3: isolation chamber of the hallway. They ask the listener seven questions.
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  Speaker 3: They bring me back in, and we do that for
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  Speaker 3: three rounds, and if the listener gets more right answers
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  Speaker 3: than I– Uh, he or she gets a hundred dollar
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  Speaker 3: gift card to walk on.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not actually going into your kitchen.
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  Speaker 4: We thought it was like your Tupperware dinner. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no.
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  Speaker 3: But I will tell you at one point, Applebee's Applebee's
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  Speaker 3: is not good. Um, Applebee's was the sponsor. And at
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  Speaker 3: one point I had $ 1, 200 worth of Applebee's gift cards.
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  Speaker 3: So believe me, as a single man in Atlanta back
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  Speaker 3: in the day, I knew everything about Bourbon Street Chicken
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  Speaker 3: and the four cheese mac. It was just a glorious
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  Speaker 3: time to be a man with gift cards.
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  Speaker 4: Once you ran out of that money, they started closing shop.
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  Speaker 2: Hilarious, man.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: He is Chuck Oliver. 71 stations. The Chuck Oliver Show,
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  Speaker 1: nine states. And you can tell, man, it's good Southern
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  Speaker 1: college football talk.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Chuck. Appreciate it so much, man.
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  Speaker 3: Word up.