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Dogman: Apex Predator with Author D.A. Roberts · The Cryptid Huntress

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Well, hey, everybody, welcome in today to a Glitch in the Matrix.
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I'm your host, Jessica Jones the Cryptid Huntress. I am so glad
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you guys are because we have another fantastic show today. I have my buddy
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Da Roberts in the studio today and we're going to be talking about one of
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my favorite subjects, dog Man. Not only dog Man, but the apex
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predators of the cryptid world. And this is going to be it's going to
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be crazy, spooky and uh, you know, I take these shows as
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kind of a cautionary tell to for everyone, uh, just to be aware
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of what sound there. Okay, I think it's I think that's important,
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just like we need to know about the animal Kingdom and all those apex predators
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things that my etis is what we're talking about today. Okay, long story,
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short, internutshell things that we'll eat humans. Okay, So uh yeah,
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in the studio today, Okay, So let me go ahead and introduce Da.
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Da Roberts is a cryptozoologist, best selling author, podcaster, and field
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investigator. Born in Lebanon, Missouri, he now lives in Springfield, Missouri
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with his wife and sons. For most of his career, DA served his
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community in law enforcement. He's been investigating and researching cryptids for more than four
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decades. Da has been featured on numerous podcasts and shows for his writing andrypt
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cryptid research, it including appearances on Coast to Coast AM. All titles are
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currently available now from Dark Waters Endeavors and Da Roberts. Well, Da Roberts
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dot Net, I believe is what it is. Da roberts dot Net is
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his website. So you guys go, I put it on the ticker down
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here today to uh you guys go check out his books. And also Dixie
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Cryptid has his some of his books on audio on their website, so are
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on their YouTube channel. Speaking of which, Da hosts a very popular YouTube
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podcast called d A x Makina with some of our friends, including our friend
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Robbie Rains. Least time we welcome to the show. Da Roberts. Hey,
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I'm so good today. Thank you so much for being here, Thanks
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for inviting me. I'm happy to be here of course. Well, I
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have been enjoying listening to your listening to your book Apex Predator. Cam did
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a great job on that. Cam is awesome, fantastic. Now you have
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a couple of your books, like at least three of them on audio with
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him narrating on Yeah, he's done three so far. I've got a couple
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others that are available through Amazon Audio with different narrators, and Cam is almost
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done with a fourth one. Wow, it was it was fantastic and and
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I knew. I've been wanting to talk with you some more. You know,
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I love talking about dog Man. That's one of my favorite cryptids.
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It's because it's so elusive, and I have not seen one yet. Okay,
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but I think you might have seen one. Yes, yes, well
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you you have spent some time out in the field, way way longer than
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I have. You've been in it for like forty years. Right, I'm
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old. You're I'm old too. I'm old too, but you're not.
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You're not old when I say but anyways, yeah, you you've been.
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But you've been in the cryptid game for a while, and I can imagine
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you have some stories to tell. I've got I've got an encounter or two
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story you know that have happened. I actually think I've seen dog Man twice.
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The first time I'm absolutely certain of it was in LBL where Nick Valente
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and I saw it just outside to Mumber's Bay. But I'm we were not
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one hundred percent sure what we saw outside of Lexington, Missouri, cross the
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road in front of us, but I think it was a dog Man because
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it looked like a big canine in the back had been at least six inches
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higher than the hood of my suv. It moved like a dog. It
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had a tail like a dog. The only thing is I can't really tell
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you much about the facial features. Is that we was crossing from one cornfield
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to another across the gravel road, and when I have my brights on it,
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and we were close, I mean, we were less than fifty yards
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in getting closer by the second. The eye shine on this thing was so
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bright as it looked right at us. It like a deer will look at
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you and freeze. This looked at us and just kept moving and it kept
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its eyes locked on the car. But the eyeshine was so brighted obscured it
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its head, I mean, just like very intense green eyeshine. And so
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we can't say for certain that it was a dog man, but because it
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was a large canine. Also because that was twelve miles from where the Amazon
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driver was killed, there's also been a couple other bodies found not far from
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there that were old to death. So yeah, I do believe that that
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time in Lexington back in twenty two, I believe that was a dog man
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across the road in front of us, because we were within rock throwing distance
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in the Missouri River and there's lots of sightings along the Missouri. Oh wow.
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Well, you don't hear about Green Eyeshine very often. We have a
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cryptid down here in Georgia called Old Green Eyes and it's Chickamauga. Chickamauga.
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Yeah, one of my favorite spots down there. A lot of lot of
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wild cryptid reports and sightings down there, and I've done some research in that
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area and it's it's really the guy. The energetics are just crazy over there.
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On any kind of battlefield, you know, I feel like there's intense
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energy down there. That was a battlefield just outside of Springfield, Battle Wilson's
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Creek was fought here. It was one of the bloodiest battles fought in the
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early part of the Civil War. In fact, it was the first time
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that a Union general was killed. Uh it was General General Nathaniel Lyon was
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killed at the Battle of Wilson's Creek. But that place is very creepy.
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They're big foot sidings all around that area, ghost sidings. A friend of
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mine used to volunteer out there and actually got a picture of a full full
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body apparition in the trees behind a cannon. Oh my gosh, wow,
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you know, that reminded me of my uncle and my cousins had gone up
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to Gettysburg and uh. And they got up there, and they they're not
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so big on like the bigfoot stuff. I think. I think I get
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kind of snickered at and laughed at a little bit at family functions for you
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know, being the bigfoot girl. But but anyways, they were up there
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and they were surprised to see ghost hunting teams up there doing research and stuff.
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And my uncle, my uncle is retired command Sergeant Major eighty second or
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born Okay, and and he he used to be the head of the Tomb
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of the Unknown Soldier for a while. Deep respect for the military, for
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all the you know, the ones that went before us, you know,
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And so he he had thought about it before he went. He actually took
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a cup of coffee and he kind of took it as an offering to the
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soldiers there, and I take a hip flask of whiskey, do you I'll
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be well he did that, and he and so he got he they were
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taking some pictures on he took a picture of the coffee that he left on
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the bridge for them as an offering and uh, and there's an actual person
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that was not there in the picture. It looks like a soldier walking and
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like a blur going across the screen on the on the actual bridge there at
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that battle at Gettysburg. So yeah, really cool stuff. But but yeah,
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a lot of a lot of really intense activity around battlefield. Something else
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that we get a lot of reports around are Indian burial mounds, those big
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mounds, and there's a lot of dog man reports that come with the around
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Indian burial mounds. Have you are you familiar with with that aspect. I'm
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sure you are. The strange thing is is I don't and I'm not one
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hundred percent sure or why. Uh, there's there's a lot of speculation.
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But for some reason, not just not just bigfoot, but dog man as
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well are often seen in close proximity to cemeteries. I don't know what draws
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them there. I don't know what's bringing them there. You know, maybe
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they maybe maybe like a cadaver dog can smell a decaying body under the ground.
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Maybe that's what brings them there. I can't say for sure, but
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you know, there's always always something odd, especially around old cemeteries. When
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I was in in l b L. There was all kinds of movement in
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the woods around Nickel Cemetery when I was there. Wow. Yeah, that's
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that's one place that we like to go whenever we're out doing some of our
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research. There's some old cemeteries around the area, and it's places where we
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get dogman reports and stuff. So, now, okay, I was actually
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contacted by a woman who is in possession. It was actually her video of
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the alleged supposed dog man that's digging in the cemetery in Ohio that I'm gonna
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I'm gonna have her on my show here soon. And yeah, well,
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the she's not the one who actually took the video of this. It looks
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like a dog man to me. Okay. But there were two young ladies
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on a break at work, and they were friends of her daughters and h
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and they were they were just driving through a cemetery on their on their dinner
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break, and they they saw what they thought was a dirty old lady,
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like a dirty woman, the dirty person. So to have her in dirt
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digging into a gravesite and uh and so it is by a mausoleum, and
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and I asked her, I said, well, what did. What did
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they think they were doing? Was it trying to up a body? And
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she had the most interesting response to me. Okay, she said, well,
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she thinks that it was actually out there digging a grave for its young,
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for its baby or something. Well, you know, if you were
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going to hide a burial near another burial, is a great place to do
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it, or you win in the same hole. I mean they say,
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they said the mafia used to dispose of bodies by going to cemeteries before funerals
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and digging beneath an open grave and then covering it up so the body would
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that when the funeral happened, they placed it and no one would ever think
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to look for a body beneath another body. Oh my god, don't be
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given the audience any ideas. Yeah, I'm kidding, that's that's wild.
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I've never heard that before, but now now you gave me some ideas.
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Okay, that's interesting though, But you know, it almost puts some more
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of a human type of aspect to the dog man creature is the phenomenon,
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you know, whatever you want to label them as. It puts a whole
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other element to it, as though like having a almost like a human human
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characteristic about it, like it has feelings and it wants to emulate what the
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humans are doing by burying burying another one of them, a baby or a
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you know, I guess adult, an adult. Yeah, yeah, but
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the whole was actually kind of small because you know, I'm sure you've probably
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seen the pictures. Yeah, of that. So Ryan, Ryan Burke,
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who's in the audience, he just said, he says, I have my
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own dog Man story. I told the A about it. You should talk
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to Ryan about his dog Man account. It's pretty creepy. I would love
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to Ryan is with the Horror Chronicles podcast. You guys, he's been on
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the show at Space Out Radio. Y'all go subscribe to right. Horror Chronicles
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are awesome, great they are, Yes, love those guys. Yeah,
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so I would love to hear your story for sure. Yeah, there's wow.
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And so wait, so you know what in the Missouri area? Right,
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you're a Missouri so is Ryan. I think it's about seventy miles from
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me, seventy eighty miles. Yeah, what's going on in that area?
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With having all the crypted activity he's seeing, You guys have a lot of
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dog Man reports and we have the Ozark Howler out there. Well, this
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is the Ozarks. I mean, you know, whether people really realize it
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or not, I know they generally think of areas, you know, we're
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in the Midwest as not being that densely forested. But between the Ozark National
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Forest and the Mark Twain National Forest, just those two forests alone is about
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five million square acres of undeveloped forest land. The Mark Twain is a huge
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forest. And then you look at the missing four one one. So much
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of this stuff happens in national parks. Well, these are national forests.
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There's like eighty eight million acres of national forests set aside here in the US,
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and like like nine of us right here are the Ozarks. Not to
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mention the Ozark Mountains. They may not look like much now, but they
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are one of the old list mountain ranges on the planet, and they're riddled
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with caves that we have tons of water systems, we have lots of lakes
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and rivers, we have tons of caves, lots of heavy forests, so
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it's perfect habitat. Mm hmm. Oh yeah. We I did some cave
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exploring myself up in Tennessee, and uh, tons of tons of cryptids you
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know, I was thinking we had reports of skin walkers being in this cave,
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right, would you consider a skin walker an apex predator anything like that?
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That that that is is that technically hunts for it's it's its food is
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an apex predator. I mean, alligators are apex predators, but skin walkers
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I don't really consider them cryptids. I think they're they're more more occult related.
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Uh, because they are, they are a person that chose to become
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that. Ryan Paul trimblaze Up is a fantastic researcher. He's done a huge
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amount of research into skin walkers. But and he's a great one. If
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you want to do a show about skinwalkers, I'd reach out to him.
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But you know, him and I have talked about this quite a bit,
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and neither of us think that skin walkers are traditionally cryptids as cryptid as the
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true definition of cryptid really is. But yeah, they would definitely be an
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apex predator in their area. I totally agree with that, you know,
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because I'd like to talk about that subject a lot. But you got to
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kind of look at it and the point the view that you have there,
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and it's the truth it's like, well, these are actual people who decided
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they took that, they rolled the dice, they decided to become a skin
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walker. It's what they chose. You don't just you know, it's not
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just like a it's not a cryptid, but it's almost like the kind of
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become one if they're a shape shifter. But I don't know, it's just
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like a witch like Spearfinger. You know, I did a show and Spearfinger
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last week, and I've had my own encounters with Spearfinger potentially out in the
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field. Really oh yeah, oh yeah. We've had some interesting moments that
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I think had had Spearfinger written all over them. Because I don't think that
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she's just a mythological creature. I think that there's some truth behind some of
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these creatures. And I call her a creature because she's a shape shifter.
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She pretends to be an old lady. But every myth or legend out there
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has some basis of truth. There's something that started the legend. It might
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be completely innocuous and nothing like the legend, but there is something that these
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legends and myths are based on. And another great example is if you look
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at topographical maps of the areas where you're going to be researching, and you
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don't necessarily find that like on Google maps, but on the old printed maps
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you'll find tons of places like Devil's Ferry or Hell's Kitchen or you know,
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there are lots of these places that have these really bizarre and sinister sounding names.
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And there's got to be a reason for that. It's not like somebody
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pulled up, you know, on a roade, up on a horse and
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saw this beautiful spring coming out of the side of a bluff, and you
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know what, I'm going to call this Devil Springs. Why would they call
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it like that? It's like where Wolf Springs in Tennessee. Why does it
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have that name? Well, mainly because there's a dog man that killed some
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people right next to it. Oh yeah. Well, here in Georgia we
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have Booger Holler, and it's not a county. We have an entire county.
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Here in Missouri we refer to as Booger County. Oh wow, Now
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is it called Booger County or y'all just refer Douglas County, but it's referred
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to as Booger County. Wow. Well, we have a place that's actually
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called booger Holler, And there's actually roads down there, and I have some
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family that lived there, my mom's side up in Rome, Georgia, Okay,
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where Rome is a whole episode of its own y'all okay and uh And
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it's yeah, a lot lots of Bigfoot activity from up there in that area.
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So I think there's a lot of occult stuff going on up there too,
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which has a connection. You wonder like, did the activity come first
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and then the occult stuff came because of that activity. It's almost like they
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feed off each other. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what I think too.
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That's like the I was talking about how I do research up in near
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Chickamauga, Georgia, And the place that we research is called Corpsewood Manor,
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and it's the home got a long history of Satanic rituals and going on there
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and people that being unalived and all this kind of stuff, and Anton Leavey
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has a connection to it, and and so there's a lot of activity there.
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But to this day there's still rituals going on there. So you wonder
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like, are the rituals did they Okay, wait, let me back up,
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because Anton Leavey actually the word on the street is that he showed those
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gentlemen where to build their house on a particular spot on top of the mountain
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that they call Corpsewood manor now in Tryon, Georgia. Okay, so he
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told them where to put the house. They started, and but all this
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stuff went down. There's cryptid activity there is that? So is that promoting
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more cryptied activity or their portals being open? There was there already a portal
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there, you know, like I wonder if it might they might have constructed
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the house on lay line. There are all these natural lay lines, and
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when we've got convergences of lay lines, that's where a greater proportion of odd
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things tend to happen. You can find maps of lay lines online, there
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are books about it, about lay lines. But the more lines that converge
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in an area, the more energy seems to be concentrated in that area.
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And I think that's just I think that's just a natural draw for things like
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that. Yeah, okay, So I mentioned there are some unaliving's going on,
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we say unliving on YouTube, okay, in case anybody watch them wondering.
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So so in your okay, I'm going to refer to your book quite
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briefly here. Okay, I'm gonna refer to your book The ape Oh my
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god, I need a drink of Hold on one second, all right,
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your Apex Predator series. Okay, so you are there's a lot of like
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horrific unliving. So there's a few okay, and and so yeah, just
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a ghost couple. It starts off with a good one. Okay, I
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say a good one because I you know, I love I love me a
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good cryptid story, especially a dog man. Okay. But yeah, so
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I forget where I was going with this. Now, hold on, I
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gotta I gotta get my thoughts back together. Okay, Well, it's it's
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these animal attacks. Uh, it's that it turns out there's dog men Okay,
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and they have they have. It's the land. I guess where I
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was going with it, because there are the area that where all this happened,
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with the unalivings of these of these two gentlemen that died there at corpswood
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Manor. Yeah, it's, oh my god, where am I going with
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this? I totally am losing my train of thought, y'all. Oh my
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gosh, it has something to do with that. Let me get my thought
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and my phone keeps ringing. That's what's wrong, y'all. I'm so sorry.
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My phone is ringing while I'm trying to talk, and so it's messing
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up my fiend. So but yeah, it's it's a rural county. There
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are unalive's there, and there's dogs. Okay, so the dog man,
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Oh my god. All right. Anyways, there's a connection there. That's
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where Ald green Eyes is too, by the way. Okay, it's in
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that area where those men are. And he was seen on the battlefield eating
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the corpses of these soldiers after the Civil War while it was going on and
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after okay, after the bodies were sitting there for months waiting to be buried.
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Okay, okay. The thing about Old green Eyes is it's documented on
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both sides of the battlefield. Both Union and Confederate officers documented this in their
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journals. This thing was seen by a lot of people, oh yeah,
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oh yeah, And it still seemed to this day. And people actually will
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have car accidents trying to they swerve off the road whenever this thing steps out
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of the woods, okay, and uh and scares them. Okay, all
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right, so I guess we're talking about horrific murders and the connection with dog
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Man. Okay, even though there's not really a connection up there in the
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courtswood Manor or whatever. But it's that land, Okay, it's the land.
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It's where these these dogmen are. And there's a native Native American connection
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too, because on that same property there were Native American land disputes back in
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the day. That's where I was going with it. That's where I was
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going. It just takes me a minute sometimes when I'm getting interrupted y'all on
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my cell phone. But yeah, there's that connection. Okay, So let's
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get into let's get into some of these Apex predators because there's also what I
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think are Gugway sightings around that area too, and sometimes Gugway get confused with
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dog Man. But what is the difference, to you, eate is there?
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Because gugli are supposed to be like sasquatch, right, Gugway is bigger
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like like a sasquatch, but it has a snout like a mandrell. Uh
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So I think there's a lot of confusion when people are seeing something like that,
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and you know, because it's got a snout, they think it can't
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be a big foot now, you know. So they you know, either
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gets reported as a dog man sighting or doesn't get reported at all. But
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I think the way probably is much closer. There. You go much closer
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to the type of face like a mandrel or a baboon. Whereas you know,
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you can look at at a at a dog man snout, you can
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see the differences. However, if you just saw it for a few seconds
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and only you noticed was the snout, yeah, I can say it was.
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That definitely caused some confusion. But the Gugwey have have a planted grade
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feet like us and like Bigfoot, whereas most dog man sightings had digitigrade feet,
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which is like the back hawk on a dog. Yes, okay,
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I don't know where this chart came from, so I can't give credit to
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whoever made this because I've never seen this until today. But here's kind of
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an interesting chart that somebody drew, Okay, and so you can kind of
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see the different types. I've got a bet I've got a better chart okay,
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that we'll show, but I just for to show the types of legs.
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Uh so digitter grade? What what DA's talking about? Are the dogs?
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The legs leg dog legs? Okay, but some of these have man
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legs like human legs. I remember this this chart from back when I was
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with a certain dog man organization. I disagree with this chart. I think
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the bottom half are traditional dog man sidings, but I think the ones on
25:15
the top are actually just misidentified gugwe I don't think they're they're dog men at
25:19
all. Like, for example, the first one, the very first one,
25:25
if you look at it snout, it looks like a mandrell. I
25:27
think you might they might have just seen that seen a young gugway. Whereas
25:33
the one on the far right at the top is more you know, more
25:37
broadened and filled out. It's probably an adult. The one in the middle,
25:41
I think is probably just a misidentification. But I think personally, I
25:45
think that your classic dog man sidings all have have a plant digitigrade feet like
25:51
the ones on the bottom. That's just me there again, folks, are
25:56
no experts in this field, nobody. This is just my opinion. I've
26:00
heard the same thing. But I've also have had discussions in people that are
26:03
like, Okay, well, anything that has human light legs is going to
26:07
be a werewolf, and then anything with the digitter grade legs is going to
26:11
be a dog man. So I don't know. There's so many like nitpicky
26:15
things that go on, you know, I don't some people just clump them
26:18
all together, right dy. I think the werewolf story, the werewolf origin
26:22
actually grew up from people trying to explain dog men. And the reason I
26:30
think that is we've got we've got what I wouldn't really say confirmed, but
26:34
we have documented dog man type creature sightings dating back to Marco Polo, Christopher
26:41
Columbus, Alexander the Great. Alexander the Great documented fighting dog headed warriors in
26:48
both the Indus River Valley and in northern Africa. They what they called the
26:52
Sinocephaly. The Romans documented fighting the same creatures in their expansion, referred to
27:00
him as the Sinocephalus, the Sinocephali, which basically just means, you know,
27:04
having the head of a dog. Saint Christopher, the Catholic Saint was
27:10
known as the dog headed Saint because in a lot of Catholic iconography he's depicted
27:14
his head having the head of a dog. So I think the werewolf legend
27:18
came about from people trying to explain what these creatures were. I think that
27:25
I think the werewolf legend rose because of dog men. I'm not saying it's
27:29
impossible that it that you know that there aren't people that turn by the light
27:33
of the full moon turned into a werewolf, but just look at that transformation
27:36
process. How difficult that would be. Transformation that rapid on a person would
27:44
kill him. So, you know, I'm not saying werewolves don't exist.
27:48
I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm just saying it's far more likely that
27:52
the werewolf legend sprang up from people trying to explain these dog men creatures.
27:57
Yeah, I believe so I agree with that. Lisa, thank you for
28:00
that supersticker. That's so sweet of you. I totally agree with that.
28:04
And uh so dog men are apex predators. Okay, they will eat you,
28:11
Okay they can and you and Ida can. You'd mentioned the the Amazon
28:15
driver that had been unalive or he just passed away, and it seems like
28:22
the thing they said it was like a dog way aggressively aggressive, passed away
28:26
aggressively. That's not funny, but I'm saying the way that they kind of
28:32
they describe it, it just sounds very suspicious, especially even with the with
28:36
the two people who died up in East Tennessee, Amber and Tony and they
28:41
weren't killed unlive excuse me, by unspecified animal attacks. There's a lot of
28:47
those that are listed as dog wild dog attacks that don't really seem like a
28:53
dog attack. There was a woman just outside of just not far from here,
28:59
just outside of O's art Waserive, about fifteen miles from me, just
29:02
a few years ago, that was killed by wild dogs and they killed her
29:07
dogs, claiming that they had done it, that she had two dogs,
29:10
that she was walking down a nature trail, but the dogs were guarding her
29:14
body, were like laying close to her body. And to me, that
29:18
would explain why the dogs were there and why the dogs would have blood on
29:21
them. It doesn't make sense that she would just be on nature walk and
29:25
the dogs she'd had for years would just suddenly turn on her. Yes,
29:27
it can happen. I know the chances of it happened are pretty slim.
29:32
But you know, there's so many times that we get these explanations that you
29:37
know that it was a wild dog attack. Same thing with the Amazon Amazon
29:41
driver that you mentioned. The Amazon driver was is listed as being killed by
29:45
the dogs at the Residents However, there's a lot of inconsistencies with that.
29:48
If that was an open and shut case, the case would be closed and
29:52
be subject to a Freedom of Information Act, but the case is still open.
29:56
They never released the nick cropsy. The dogs were not killed by the
29:59
bar The dogs were killed in the house. The deputies actually kicked the door
30:03
into the house and killed the dogs inside the house. The dogs were not
30:07
with the body, and the sheriff and the corner of that county have both
30:11
said they have never in their careers seen a body that torn up. Oh
30:17
my god, that is terrifying. That is really terrifying, and it sucks
30:22
because, like the domesticated dogs, our pets sort of wants to get blamed
30:26
for this stuff. I don't believe the dogs had anything to do with it.
30:30
Well, the dogs probably had you know, her DNA on them from
30:33
leaking her wounds and stuff. You know when they talk about having blood in
30:38
their stomachs or whatever. You know, it's probably from liking her, trying
30:42
to wake her up when you find somebody that's like in the case of Amber
30:48
Hearn, I believe it was in Tennessee. She was missing forty percent of
30:55
her body tissue that doesn't happen quickly, that takes time. Yeah, yeah,
31:03
it's a couple of domestic dogs. Are not going to eat forty percent
31:07
of somebody, No, I have. I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't
31:11
think so at all. But and the fact that the entire hospital was put
31:15
under a gag order. Okay and her family and everybody. But you know,
31:18
the majority of what we hear about are not like the sightings of dog
31:25
men. They're not violent. A lot of times when we hear about dog
31:29
men sightings, they're actually quite tame. I guess you could say, you
31:33
know, it's just you see one and that's it. They're not really trying
31:36
to hurt you. I saw, I didn't feel threatened by. In fact,
31:41
once it realized we saw it, it took off. But I've talked
31:45
to so many people that have had eyewitness encounters that have all described being absolutely
31:49
terrified. So I think it's very situational. I mean, a great example
31:55
that I use is the time I was hiking up in the mountains with some
31:57
buddies and I kept hear hearing a bear and I'm telling these guys, I'm
32:00
like, you guys, be ready to get off the trail or whatever.
32:04
I'm hearing a pair. They're like, no, no, no, there's
32:07
no bears up here. I'm like, I'm telling you, I hear bear.
32:08
We rounded a corner in the trail and there was a grizzly bear in
32:13
the road and in the trail ahead of us, and I said, don't
32:16
run. Well, of course, the first thing I hear is is they
32:20
took off. But I'm standing here almost nose to nose with his bear.
32:22
And I play this whole game with my dog or I reach out and I
32:25
go boop, and I boop him on the nose. Do it to him
32:28
all the time. Sometimes they'll let me do it. Sometimes he'll back off.
32:30
I could have done that to that bear. It was close enough I
32:32
could reach out and popped it on the nose. And it was a full
32:36
grown grizzly and it looked at me, and I looked at it, and
32:38
I started backing away slowly, and it turned and went off down the trail.
32:43
And had that been had it had cubs with it, or had it
32:45
been close to hibernation, time probably would have a totally different story. I
32:50
probably would have been one of the missing four one one. But you know,
32:53
there are lots of encounters with known predators that end peacefully, so I
33:00
think it's very Encounters with dog ben are big for a situational If you catch
33:04
one and it's hungry, probably a different story. Yes, Dave Scott,
33:08
Dave Scott's in the chat today. Thank you, Dave Scott for that sweet
33:13
super chat. I appreciate that only because Jessica is kind of cool and just
33:15
kind of come on, Dave, I'm just kidding. Thank you, Dave.
33:21
Yeah, we appreciate you here. Okay, Well, you spoke about
33:23
the missing for one one cases. Okay, do you think that some predators,
33:29
some apex cryptids, apex predatory cryptoids could be responsible for some of these
33:34
missing persons cases out of the national parks especially. Well, the interesting thing
33:38
about the missing for one one cases is Dave Poliiti's cherry picks those. He
33:44
does not list every disappearance in the park because some of them are just someone
33:47
that got disappeared off a trail or somebody that got lost in the woods and
33:52
they later found them. He doesn't list all of them. He only lists
33:55
the ones that meet very specific requirements, people that disappeared to under strange circumstances.
34:02
People with disabilities, people that you know were found in an area later
34:07
that had been searched dozens of times. He only puts the really bizarre cases.
34:13
But the thing about the missing four one one, and he's even with
34:15
that, there's just so many of them concentrated in our national parks. But
34:22
I think Polity's kinds of hints. He never out and out says. He
34:25
kind of hints that he believes there's scripted is involved. But I don't really
34:30
think there's one simple answer. I think there's more than one thing involved in
34:34
these disappearances. And I think if it was just a bear or wolves or
34:37
coyotes that got them, or just ailements, I think those would fall into
34:42
the category of the ones he doesn't even mess with. But there's really bizarre
34:45
cases that he investigates. I think we'd be foolish to think it's just one
34:51
thing. Oh yeah, it's a bunch of stuff. And I tend to
34:55
believe that some of these people are walking into portals potential. I mean,
35:00
we've we've documented some really weird stuff out in the field when we're doing our
35:04
research with my teams, and so I mean it could be a list of
35:07
anything. I think that it could be cryptis this is me, I'm answering
35:12
a question I just posed to you, But I think that it's I think
35:15
that there could be some cryptid involvement with some of these, especially when you
35:17
look at places like Yellowstone National Park. There is a phenomenon there called people.
35:24
People say that the Gogway hide in the fog at Yellowstone and take some
35:30
of the hikers, And that's something that I actually did a show that was
35:34
a remote viewing target and I saw that Andrew who had asked a question that
35:37
I put on the screen earlier, asking about when I remote viewed dogmen,
35:40
were they different sizes? Yeah, different shapes. Some of them were like
35:45
hyenas and stuff, So yeah, they're all different. But we explored the
35:50
Gogway and the fog at Yellowstone and potentially if that those were actually what we're
35:54
taking the hikers that were going missing there, and I believe that it could
35:58
be. I think explains part of it. You know, some of it
36:02
could be other humans. That's one thing people a lot of people fail to
36:07
take into account when it comes to bizarre disappearances in the woods. Is one
36:13
of the most dangerous animals you're going to run into in the woods are other
36:15
people. I mean, you could stumble upon an illegal grow of marijuana grow
36:21
and somebody just take care of you right on the spot, and they'll ever
36:24
find your body. You know, never underestimate the difficulty in running into the
36:30
Greater North American meth head when you're out in the woods, because be very
36:35
dangerous. Humans are just as dangerous as any other predator. In fact more
36:38
so in some cases because there you know, tend to be more cunning,
36:43
they have weapons. But you know, there are lots of things in the
36:46
woods that are not cryptid related that can and will kill you. You know,
36:51
snakes, bears, you know, mountain lions, wolves, coyotes.
36:54
The list is is is fairly lengthy in North America things that will kill you.
37:00
So you've got to be careful. You've got to be aware of your
37:01
surroundings. But when you throw when you throw cryptids in the into the into
37:06
the mix. And if it is true what you're saying about Gougway moving in
37:08
the mist, that that jives with some of the Norse tales of large bipedal
37:15
creatures that would come in the mist and carry people off. Oh my gosh.
37:21
Well, you know, I've actually encountered something with my team. With
37:23
one of my teammates, we had we were we had a group of people
37:27
up in top of a mountain and we had a fog that was following us,
37:30
and it felt so ominous. It actually was moving as we moved,
37:34
and it stopped as we stopped, and its speed up as we speed up,
37:37
and it was really scary. I was actually one of the scariest nights
37:42
I'd ever had out there was that fog. It felt like there was something
37:45
in it or it was alive itself. It had a consciousness to it.
37:47
There's a theme park here in Missouri called Silver Dollar City. It's kind of
37:52
set it's like it's trapped in time in the late eighteen hundreds. It's set
37:58
up like an old but there's a lot of it rides, but they do
38:00
a lot of things like blacksmithing and stuff. It's a really cool park.
38:04
I worked there overnights for a couple of years in security, and when I
38:07
first started, you know, we'd have to keep people out of the park
38:09
when it was closed because there are places you could just walk into the woods
38:13
and then pass the fence and into the park, so it would be it's
38:16
fairly possible to get into that park with you without when it's closed, so
38:22
it doesn't take a whole lot if you know the area. But it's right
38:24
on the shores of the table Rock Lake and the table Rock is just down
38:27
the hill from it, and we would get some pretty thick fog. And
38:30
when I first started working there, some of the other other overnight guys were
38:34
telling me, hey, man, this park gets pretty weird when there's fog,
38:37
and I'm like, yeah, whatever, They're like, no, when
38:40
when the fog comes in, you're gonna notice. And I would do rounds
38:44
through the park at night, usually by myself. Once in a while it
38:46
was me and another guy. But you know, I was a deputy.
38:51
I was just moonlighting there, so I was armed. So there was a
38:54
night I was walking in the fog in the park and the park was fairly
38:58
well lit up, but it was absolutely empty. That wouldn't anybody there but
39:01
me and two other other officers, and they were in the office, and
39:05
I could hear something following me in the fog, and I would stop and
39:08
I would thought At first, I thought it was just a weird echo,
39:12
like my own tracks echoing in the fog, but I would stop and it
39:15
would take a couple more steps and then stop, And it got louder in
39:20
certain areas where you were much closer to the woods, Like if you were
39:22
in the core parts of the park, it wasn't quite as loud, but
39:25
if you were in the in the area of the outer park it was up
39:29
against the woods, it was particularly loud. So, yeah, the thought
39:31
of something grabbing you in the mist, yeah, I think that's very possible.
39:37
I think it's very very likely because they these creatures are smart enough to
39:42
use whatever they've got, and getting close to you in the mist would certainly
39:45
make it a lot easier to grab you without you, without you doing anything,
39:50
without you being able to prevent it until it was on top of you.
39:52
Oh my gosh, that's terrifying. That sounds really scary. Marien,
39:57
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Okay, thank you, francying. Yeah. So, so the fog that
40:22
is that is something that is the stuff of nightmares. It's the stuff of
40:25
nightmares. And and so I want to kind of warn people if you're out
40:30
in the field, if you're even at wherever you're at at night, especially
40:34
at night, if a big thick fog rolls in, don't just go the
40:37
other way, Okay, like, don't don't go walking through the fog.
40:40
You don't know what. There's been movies made about that place here in Missouri
40:45
called Moon Valley. It's on the Naigua River and it's pretty remote. I
40:49
mean, it's gravel roads to get to it. It's it's one of those
40:52
places that unless you're a local or you know it's on Google Maps, it's
40:55
it's a it's it's the Missouri Department Conservation maintains. But unless you're a local,
41:00
you probably don't ever go there. I mean, it is pretty far
41:04
off the beaten path. It used to be that the land on the north
41:08
side of the river was a campground, a canoe place, but now it's
41:15
in private hands and you can't get on the land. It's posted for no
41:16
trespassing. But back when it was open, I used to go down there
41:20
and fish and camp with buddies of mine. And we were down in the
41:23
Moon Valley along the Niangua and it was again one of those nights where it
41:29
was just the temperature was right, and we had a thick fog hanging over
41:31
the valley and we were camping. We had a pretty good fire going,
41:36
and you know that you can take a blade of grass and make a real
41:39
shrill, shriek whistle. We heard something like that, but it was massive,
41:45
and it came from the other end of the valley. It never got
41:47
closer, but it screamed at us four or five times, and of course,
41:51
you know, we sat up the rest of the night with our guns
41:52
in our hands. But it terrified the crap out of us. And we
41:57
only heard it that one time in the fog. Well, I heard you're
42:00
not supposed to whistle out in the woods. Yeah, the Native Americans tell
42:04
you all the time, do not whistle in the woods, especially at night.
42:07
What do you think would happen? I mean, obviously that happened,
42:09
but what could somebody expect that they whistled at night. What I was told
42:15
is that if you whistle in the woods, and I have an account that
42:17
goes right along with this from right over across the Missouri border in Illinois of
42:22
someone whistling at night in the woods and it attracted a wind to go.
42:27
Oh, that's that is encryptied. I have not explored extensively yet, but
42:31
I know you have. You actually have a series on that. And I
42:36
think the Wind to Go may be more like the skin Walker in so far
42:38
as it's not really encrypted because it started out as human. But unlike a
42:44
skin walker, it changes to that form and that form only and it can't
42:47
change back. Wind to Go is a corruption. It's it's the manifestation of
42:52
pure hunger, almost like a demon in the woods. Generally, the curse
42:58
of the wind to Go fall on somebody who's eating human flesh in times of
43:02
extreme cold, which was really really terrifying because that's one of our greatest societal
43:09
taboos is eating human flesh. And they would they would say that if you
43:15
ate, you know, if you ate human flesh, that the curse of
43:17
the Windigo would come down on you. And even as early as the late
43:21
nineties, there was a case of that in Canada that they referred to as
43:24
wind to Go psychosis, where a guy on a Trans Canada bus just snapped,
43:30
killed the guy sitting across from him in the aisle and started eating eating
43:34
his eating his flesh. When you know, they evacuated the bus and he's
43:37
back there, you know, cutting strips off of this guy and eating it.
43:40
When they stormed the bus and captured the guy, he had ziplocked bags
43:45
full of this dude's skin and flesh in his pockets. He went to a
43:50
mental asylum and was treated for what they referred to as wind to Go psychosis.
43:54
He's out now. I think he got out in twenty sixteen. But
43:58
you know, there's no no explanation for why he did it. He was
44:01
just sitting on a public bus and decided to start eating this guy. Oh
44:06
my god, when to go psychosis? Okay, that is that's a new
44:09
one for me. I have not heard that, but I but I've been
44:12
hearing more and more about cannibalism lately and people eating flesh. There's even a
44:16
restaurant in New York where people eat people past. Yeah, I know a
44:22
hard pass for me. That sounds gross. That was here in Missouri,
44:25
just like four years ago, where two guys went to prison because they were
44:30
abducting and eating people. And guess where that was? Yeah, Moon Valley,
44:37
Oh my gosh, on the bluff that looks down on Moon Valley.
44:42
Really, yeah, that's where they lived. Oh my gosh, we Missouri
44:45
way, I can take you right too. I don't okay, I don't
44:51
know if it was the locals, but somebody that lives in that area after
44:53
those guys went to prison burnt that house down. Oh they did. Well,
44:58
that was like, that's like the the two gentlemen that were unlived in
45:02
that home up on Courtswood. Matter that the locals burned that house down,
45:07
there's still some bricks. There's uh, you know places where things that are
45:10
horrific that happen, you know. I mean, I don't know is it
45:15
best to, you know, burn the place down and get rid of that
45:19
energy because there's got to be something attached to it. I think it's the
45:22
land, Okay, So I don't think you're going to get rid of it.
45:24
They see fire is a purifire. So in a lot of cultures,
45:28
they you know, in fact that when we're talking about windogoes. The Native
45:31
American low all for how to kill one all involved fire. There's lots of
45:37
different versions on how how to kill one by different tribes. Because there's there's
45:42
more than a dozen different tribes that have different names for the wind to go,
45:45
they were all very similar. When Tico Wendiga, you know, a
45:49
dozen different tribes have different names for the same type of the same legend someone
45:53
andy codes. I think it was asked if they have them in England.
45:57
I don't think why they couldn't, but the the source of the legend seems
46:00
to be Native American. However, considering how much overlap there is with not
46:07
just you know, just mythologies and exchange of ideas, there's no reason to
46:13
think why the wind to Go couldn't you know, be in Europe. In
46:16
fact, one of the reasons I really believe a lot of the same things
46:21
that exist in Europe exist here and vice versa is because of the Appalachian Mountains.
46:27
The Appalachian Mountain Range has been known for Windo goes and dog Man and
46:31
Bigfoot. But before the continents split apart, the mountain range that is the
46:37
Appalachians, was part of the mountain range that runs through Scotland and Ireland.
46:43
Oh wow, an original mountain range. Well, it is the oldest mountain
46:47
range in the world and that's where I do most of my bigfoot research.
46:52
And you mentioned the Windo goes there. We actually get reports of modern day
46:57
dinosaurs and stuff too. I mean, you name it, we got it
47:01
up there. So we'll look at some of the things that are reported in
47:05
the Alaskan Triangle. That place is I would love to be able to go
47:07
spit a few months up there. But in the last thirty years, I
47:12
think it's like sixty six thousand people have gone missing in the Alaskan Triangle.
47:16
That's amazing for a state that has some of the lowest population density of any
47:22
state in the United States. To have that many people go missing in a
47:27
small area, that's well not a small area, it's a pretty big,
47:30
big triangle, but that one concentrated area. To have that many people go
47:34
missing, that's pretty creepy. Okay. So the Alaska Triangle is an interesting
47:37
topic because they say that in that triangle, animals in the wildlife there,
47:44
including bigfoot sasquatch yetti, are way more violent against humans in that triangle.
47:52
And I don't think Port Lock, Alaska, Chatham, Alaska is there.
47:55
But you know, there was that case of all the bigfoots that basically eight
48:00
the whole town almost that the town was abandoned because of what they were reported
48:04
as bigfoot attacks. Uh. That's it's documented from the records of the town,
48:07
from the records of the cannery. This was a booming fishing village.
48:13
And the first red flag when they came into the area because it's at the
48:16
end of the Kenai Peninsula. When when when white settlers first came into that
48:21
area looking for a place to build, the first clue should have been the
48:23
fact that there were no Native Americans living on that peninsula. They were like,
48:29
nope, it all yours. We're staying out of there. That should
48:30
have been a good you know, we law enforcement, we call that a
48:34
clue. There's nobody living there for a reason. But they built a booming
48:38
fishing village. They had a functional cannery. They were sitting canned fish all
48:44
over the world, so that they were making good money at at Portlock,
48:47
Port Chaffa, Port Talk, Port Locked, Port Chaffamin. But then the
48:52
cannery workers went on strike because people that were you know, going up in
48:55
the woods to hunt for food for their family. Weren't coming back, or
48:59
if they did, they were finding pieces of them floating in the bay.
49:02
So that's not something a bear would do. They would find chunks that had
49:06
been torn off. If a bear had done it, there would be teeth
49:09
marks or claw marks, none of that. These were like arms and and
49:14
and put pieces of legs that had just been ripped off and tossed in the
49:16
water. So they're these people. These people were genuinely afraid. And then
49:22
at night they started having large hairy things coming in and trying to get into
49:25
houses, and so the people were just like Milpe, we're out. And
49:29
within just a few years they completely abandoned that town. And that takes that
49:34
takes a lot to do when a town has an established post office. I
49:37
don't know if you guys know much about about the US posts or postal service
49:40
in the US, but once a post office isn't established somewhere, that's kind
49:45
of a big deal. And for them to shut that down, yeah,
49:47
that's that's kind of crazy for them to say, you know what, we're
49:51
completely unincorporating this, we're out, We're all leaving, including the post office.
49:55
Okay, can you imagine being that post little service person, the postmaster,
50:02
who had to stay behind and everybody else left the town. He may
50:07
have just said to hell with this and left with everybody else, I mean
50:09
no for a year right there until until the until they closed the post office
50:15
officially. But he may have just said, you know what, maybe nobody
50:17
here to get mail, I'm leaving. I think that he stayed there for
50:21
a year from what I from what I researched, I mean, I would
50:23
not want to be him or her. He probably heated himself in his house
50:28
at night. Yeah, well, that's the definition of an apex predator would
50:32
be the sasquatch that you know, that was one of my I did that
50:36
as a blind remote viewing target that somebody tasked me with that a long time
50:38
ago. And uh, and I was seeing I'm talking about like the biggest
50:44
bigfoots I think, I guess because whatever I was looking at was like thirteen
50:47
fourteen, fifteen, maybe I think every down like twenty in my data,
50:52
like the Hairyman of the of the of you know, southern Alaska, the
51:00
Key nine Peninsula, specifically, reports of fifteen foot tall not uncommon. Yeah,
51:07
especially in Alaska. Everything's bigger in Alaska. And okay, you look
51:10
at the moose in Alaska. The moose in Alaska are way bigger than the
51:15
ones you find on the East coast in Maine. Oh yeah, okay,
51:21
Well, my theory on what's going on on that triangle today, okay,
51:24
because you've got to factor in, like we've got the Black Pyramid. There's
51:29
a something called the dark Pyramid or the Black Pyramid there. I think that's
51:32
like an ancient, something ancient from a long time ago. It's something similar
51:37
to what they've got in an Antarctica probably okay, is hiding underneath all the
51:40
ice and the snow up there. But what I think is going on now,
51:45
some of that has to do with heart and this energy weapons, frequency,
51:52
weather manipulation stuff going on up there. I would I would assume that
51:57
the frequencies that that's putting off are just out of our range where we can't
52:00
hear it. But who's to say the sandsquatch can't pick up on it and
52:04
the animals out there, the bear, the acoustica, by the way,
52:07
we got Kustakas acousticas that's the otter Man. That's another Apex predator I think
52:14
they look cute, but they'll get you. I think I actually have a
52:19
picture of that. Now have you have you have you covered the acustica yet
52:22
about it? When I had Fred roll on on on our show, we
52:25
talked about that. I've talked about it. And there's another word that they
52:30
have, the Baskins have for for bigfoot, And for some reason, it's
52:34
slipping my mind right now, I cannot think of it. Those teeth don't
52:37
look that that scary, but they kind of do. They're just sharp.
52:40
I guess that's that's I mean, I wouldn't want that they swimming up behind
52:45
me. I mean, it's a little scary. I'm sure it's a lot
52:50
bigger than I am that and it swims and it sounds like a human out
52:53
in the ocean to lure people out. It doesn't have to be bigger than
52:57
you to do a lot of damage. I mean, look at the size
52:59
of a wolverine. Are not that big, but they'll tear up a grizzly
53:05
bear. I mean, they're just pure and mean, So don't necessarily,
53:07
you know, look at the size of something to determine how tough it is.
53:10
Because they are small animals that will take you to take your arm off,
53:15
and they're very capable of doing it. I mean, your average black
53:17
bear doesn't get much bigger than a person. I mean, you know,
53:20
a couple hundred and three hundred pounds here in Missouri. They don't get as
53:22
big as they do, say up in the in the Rockies. A big
53:25
one around here would be three four hundred pounds. That'd be a big black
53:29
bear. But even you know, a fairly small sized black bear could carry
53:34
you up pretty easily because they're they're just so powerful. Oh yeah, I
53:39
mean there's a lot of things lurking around us. You know, we've mentioned
53:42
earlier big cats and stuff. That's something that we have to watch out for
53:45
in the Appalachian Mountains when we're out there doing our research because we have and
53:50
here's here's something to kind of some food for thought. As my buddy Barry
53:53
says, black panthers. You know, we're not supposed to have those in
53:58
Georgia were But I think that I think that the d n R. I
54:04
think they know, you know, they just don't want to. There's a
54:06
lot of paperwork having to admit that there's something like that where it's not supposed
54:09
to be uh, but yeah, somebody's in here a case. O'melli's talking
54:14
about the jaguar. We have jaguar. I don't know how to pronounce it,
54:16
but down in like Texas they have the jaguarndy. I think it's how
54:21
you say that. A lot of times I wonder sometimes if like these panthers
54:25
are being mistakenly labeled as dog men. Is so, because if you look
54:30
at a black panther, a big one, it looks like a dog kind
54:32
of Okay, it's kind of You will never see one on a tine legs.
54:37
You don't. I don't think you would. I'm just kidding. I've
54:39
never heard of anybody seeing a big cat walking around on time legs yet.
54:45
Never. But there are reports of feline humanoids, and yes, it's pretty
54:52
creepy. They're not common, you don't get them often, but there are
54:54
reports that come in from time to time of a feelinoid feline human Yeah.
55:01
I have not taken report of that yet, but I have heard of them.
55:05
I've heard of people seeing them before, so I've read reports, but
55:08
I've never taken one personally. However, I do have something that I think
55:12
you're going to find interesting what's that? Do you remember a while back when
55:16
I asked you to remote view Joe Bald. I talk about it all the
55:21
time, absolutely, Well, Robbie and I. Robbie came to Missouri here
55:24
a few months ago and I took him down to Joe Bald. And I
55:29
remember when that campground was open. I've camped there. They were all primitive
55:32
campsites, which means no power, no electricity. They had hooks where you
55:37
could hang up a lantern, but there were no RV hookups. These were
55:40
primitive camp sites. Guess what we found in Joe Bald? Okay, either
55:46
it was covered in dirt and you couldn't get in there at all, or
55:50
it's super luxurious. Now, what is it? Well, about six months
55:54
ago, my son Noah and I were down there and it looked like they
55:58
were going to try to reopen to a Bald. They were building a marina
56:01
there. When we went down there with Robbie, the marina was gone under
56:07
lockstock and barrel, everything gone. Apparently the Army Corps of Engineers got one
56:10
of it and shut it right back down. But this is the this is
56:14
the crazy part. You know what we found in the woods there, Joe
56:17
bald when we were walking around. Oh what power boxes? Oh man,
56:23
okay, about three feet by two feet, these these big steel power in
56:30
the woods for underground I remember I told you, okay, that was part
56:32
of my data, and you found that. I told you to look for
56:37
things that were kind of hidden the plane sight, but they were going to
56:38
be in the in the environment somewhere. I was saying, like I think,
56:44
I said, boxes are a doorway too. Well, this is the
56:46
park that had only primitive camp sites and didn't have street lights through the park.
56:52
At night. It was the only lights for your camp lights. So
56:57
you know, there was no no reason for these to be out there.
57:00
But in the trees back inside, deep inside the park, we found two
57:04
large power junction boxes and they weren't close to anything like you know, like
57:08
where the ranger station sat right the ranger that watched over the park. His
57:14
office was at the front of the park, so the you know, they
57:16
had had electricity, but nothing between there and the lake had electricity. And
57:22
that's what we found about those junction boxes. We'll go figure we were right
57:27
right, the data was right then, I'm I stand behind my remote viewing
57:30
data, Okay, I do, and and I was picking up one hundred
57:35
percent on an underground facility there, and no one and I are going to
57:38
go back now that I'm now that I'm breathing better again, now that my
57:43
medications finally working. I don't know if any of your listeners are aware,
57:45
but I had a pretty pretty close brush. I was in the hospital for
57:50
a while back in November, and then again just a couple of weeks ago,
57:54
I was having trouble breathing. I was having fluid building up around my
57:59
lungs where they've got my medications straight out, I'm breathing pretty well. So
58:02
now that I'm able to get mobile again, my son Noah and maybe a
58:07
couple other friends are going to go back down to Joe Bald and really dig
58:08
around. And I've got somebody that's going to get us into Comb's Ferry.
58:13
Comb's Ferry is another campground that was shut down by Army Corps of Engineers here
58:17
right there on Table Rock Lake, and they bulldozed it off. And now
58:22
for an area where land is going for about a quarter of a million for
58:25
an acre for people to build vacation homes, why did they block off like
58:31
two hundred acres of land right there on the lake. Yeah. You know,
58:37
the Army Corps of Engineers has a funny way of shutting things down when
58:40
it benefits them, right. I've seen that happen. There's at least two
58:45
campgrounds that I've been able to confirm on Table Rock Lake that the Army Corps
58:51
of Engineers shut down and refuse to let anybody have access to. Joe Bald
58:55
You can still go in there on the road during the day, but you're
59:00
not supposed to be in there after dark. Colmb's ferry they bulldozed it off.
59:05
It's over near Blueline, Missouri, and they literally bulldozed it off.
59:09
Without a really good four wheel drive, there's no way to even get back
59:13
in there. Yeah, that's whole lake front property. Well, I figured
59:17
they put a burm up or something. Everybody out. Yeah, that's what
59:22
that's what they do. That's what they do a lot of times when we're
59:24
just out there trying to do a little bit of scouting around some of the
59:29
National forests and stuff, they've got the gates closed off. You can't get
59:30
in there, and I get real suspicious sometimes because it's the time of year
59:35
where these things should be open, you know, no control burns going on,
59:39
So I don't know. I'm just suspicious of everything that's you know,
59:45
we know the weird thing about like Moon Valley, Like I was telling about
59:49
it, it was right after the cannibal case right there at Moon Valley that
59:52
that whole section of land down there became private property and marked with no trespassing.
59:58
So I'm wondering if there's a correlation with that as well. I can't
1:00:00
prove it, just so I suspect it. Right, You appreciate that,
1:00:04
appreciate it. Yeah, everybody in the audience is staying they're glad you feel
1:00:07
better. I'm glad you feel better. To them, I'm so glad.
1:00:10
I was pretty I was pretty worried there for a bit. Yeah right,
1:00:15
yeah, you do look good? You do? You do look good?
1:00:19
Oh. Eminent domain, that's what Renee said. Renee has always got the
1:00:22
best comments, by the way, Yeah, emminent domain, that's what.
1:00:24
Okay. I used to work in politics, da, I worked at the
1:00:27
capital. I was ahead of a women's group. Okay, let's just say
1:00:32
I worked for women's issues. Okay, for the government, that's what I
1:00:36
did. And uh, and I was always having to go big for money.
1:00:39
At the Capitol. Okay, so I know all the I knew back
1:00:43
then, all of the lobbyists, the legislators and everything. And there was
1:00:46
something called eminent domain that I learned about because the power companies were lobbying to
1:00:52
be able to go into people's properties and just seize it for emminent domain purposes
1:00:57
basically. And and so that's kind of excuse I think that they're given for,
1:01:02
you know, closing things down or taking over lanes. That's what they
1:01:06
did with LBL. That LBL used to be known as the Land between the
1:01:08
Rivers before nineteen sixty three, when the Tennessee Valley of the Tennessee Valley Authority
1:01:14
built those two hydroelectric electric dams, they seized all of that land and kicked
1:01:19
families off that land that had been there for generations. And there's people that
1:01:23
are still pretty salty about it. I mean, it's still a very bitter
1:01:27
subject. And the TVA promised to develop that land and make it great for
1:01:30
public use, and none of those promises have ever materialized. LBL used to
1:01:36
be a beautiful place to camp, and now it's just like it's fallen apart.
1:01:40
Some of those old campgrounds are overgrown, almost impossible to find if you
1:01:46
can find them at all. LBL could be it could have been a beautiful
1:01:52
camping area, but they just let it go to sea. Yeah, it's
1:01:55
a pretty dangerous place though, a lot of missing people in that area,
1:02:00
a lot of missy people in that area, And we all know the story
1:02:04
the most. I think the most famous, the most well known story of
1:02:07
a dog man attack would be that one on the family back in nineteen eighty
1:02:10
two. I believe a family of four they say was written to shreds basically,
1:02:17
and it was covered up. And you know, it's difficult to say
1:02:22
with any certainty the details of that event, but there were officers who were
1:02:30
there who came forward before they passed away and told their stories. You know,
1:02:35
in law enforcement referred to that as the deathbed confession, and they were
1:02:38
admissible in court. So I believe there's truth to the story. But much
1:02:45
like you ever played that game, I am thinking they used to call it
1:02:49
telephone. When you're a kid, you tell whispers and then go around a
1:02:52
circle and by the time he gets back to you don't even recognize the story.
1:02:54
I think a lot of that story has probably changed or been embellished over
1:02:59
the years, but there's definitely truth to that story. And if it was
1:03:02
just an animal attack like coyotes did it or something, there would be corroborating
1:03:07
evidence, it would be documented. But they have gone to such great lengths
1:03:12
to bury that story that to me just it is confirmation that says the government
1:03:16
knows it happened, and they've gone to tremendous lengths to either discredit people that
1:03:22
talk about the story or just a stonewallt entirely. And anytime somebody goes missing
1:03:27
in LBL, that disc gets buried. I mean, it just it doesn't
1:03:30
even get talked about well. And you know, we wouldn't even be aware
1:03:34
of all of the missing people if it weren't for David Poliitis. David plates
1:03:38
never has never profiled LBL because it's not a National park, it's not a
1:03:44
part of the National Park Service. It's it's administer administrated by the Department of
1:03:49
Agriculture. It's considered a public use area. So when you look up stuff
1:03:54
from that David Poliites has looked up, the LBL does not pop up.
1:03:59
My gosh, iagine if he did profile the LBL though, But it's just
1:04:03
it's just a matter of the enormity of the amount of missing people that we
1:04:09
have that really are kind of like not reported, and so it makes you
1:04:15
wonder. And so that gives some credibility potentially to what researchers that go and
1:04:20
explore LBL and fairly regularly they will find camp sites with that have been torn
1:04:28
up and there's nobody there. Oh yeah, there's no trace, leave no
1:04:32
trace, just there's no trace of them. Yeah, it's well, I
1:04:36
mean we find a abandoned campsites occasionally when we're out in the field doing our
1:04:41
research, camp sites that are way out in the middle of nowhere where people
1:04:45
obviously got scared and ran off in the middle of the night and left all
1:04:47
their gear. That's like a that's like winning the lottery. If you find
1:04:51
one of those, you're like, oh, okay, well they got some
1:04:54
good gear. We can take this, you know, I know, right
1:04:59
U. But yeah, it's we have very little ten in the chat.
1:05:02
Hey, Barry, Yeah, talking about the marsubial lion that looks like the
1:05:05
black panther in the United States. So I've never heard of a marsubial lion,
1:05:10
but that's something to look out for. Australia talking about the thyla scene.
1:05:15
He's talking about Australian Tasmanian tiger. There are sightings of that fairly regularly,
1:05:20
and they's supposedly been extinct since the early nineteen hundreds. Oh man,
1:05:26
there's all sorts of stuff that's supposed to be you know, not supposed to
1:05:29
be here, that's here, and so it's just something else to put on
1:05:31
the list of things that we need to look out for. But there are
1:05:33
these are apex predators too, okay, any kind of big cat, any
1:05:39
kind of big dog. I don't know big dogs. I mean, we
1:05:42
have other ones. I was going to cover some other but we've had such
1:05:44
a great discussion at a DA I didn't get to them. But you know,
1:05:46
like the lizard man, okay, the reptilians that we hear about,
1:05:51
even the thunderbird you know of Native American legend and more that that I would
1:05:56
assume that'd be like an apex predator, any kind of raptor, you know,
1:06:00
let's see. Oh yeah, and the giant snakes. I mean I
1:06:03
had a picture of that that like fifty foot snake out of the congo that
1:06:08
was photographed in the nineteen fifties. You know, there's a lot of predatory
1:06:13
stuff. We have reports of large snakes here now, especially down in Florida.
1:06:16
There's large snakes that I don't think are cryptid like snakes. They're just
1:06:21
big snakes. So yeah, I'm glad. I don't do research very often
1:06:26
down in the swamps of Florida, but I go to get no big shout
1:06:30
out much respect to all y'all, especially like Marie Dumont down there in that
1:06:33
crowd, and Connor Flynn and Tyler Howell, all you guys down there,
1:06:40
anybody who's down in Florida doing research. God bles y'all, God blesch y'all.
1:06:45
Yeah, and oh yeah, and giants. I mean, there's all
1:06:48
sorts of stuff we get have talked about today. But you please come back
1:06:53
and hang out with me again for the feature. Yeah, this has been
1:06:57
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1:07:01
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1:07:05
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1:07:09
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1:07:14
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1:07:19
But I do write fiction primarily, although I do have plans for some
1:07:24
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1:07:57
I just talked to Robbie other day. I think Robbie might be coming to
1:07:59
the Georgia Foot Conference. I don't know, we'll see day that he was
1:08:01
thinking about it. Yeah, I sure hope he comes, because we're gonna
1:08:04
have a really good time there. So yeah, I mean, do you
1:08:08
Hopefully I'll get to meet up with you one day, and maybe maybe I'll
1:08:11
come out to the Midwest and go hunt for that Ozark Cawler out there or
1:08:15
something. Yeah, or go to Joe Ball. That's that's where I want
1:08:17
to go, is the joke? Thank you? Okay, well we'll plan
1:08:21
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