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INTERVIEW: Teddy Swims Talks New Album, Toxic Relationships, Name Origin, Being In Love, Stevie Wonder + More · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: The breakfast Club warning everybody is t J n Vy
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  Speaker 2: Jess hilarious, charlamage, the guy we are the breakfast club
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  Speaker 2: Ess is out today.
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  Speaker 3: Lauren's holding it down.
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  Speaker 2: And of course we got our niece, Nola Hill, and
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: we got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: Brother, Teddy Swims.
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  Speaker 4: Hang man, swim.
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  Speaker 5: I'm honored here, man, I'm fine, happy to have you,
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  Speaker 5: really really excited dude.
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  Speaker 4: We we did.
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  Speaker 5: Our album lease party last night though, so uh you
• 0:28
  Speaker 5: know again, excuse my drinking for you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't drinking early in the morning.
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  Speaker 6: You see that one over lest you be on the way?
• 0:38
  Speaker 7: What all right?
• 0:39
  Speaker 6: Why out here telling my business?
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  Speaker 3: Sorry?
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: How about you say?
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  Speaker 4: I was like, we need to drink.
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: Well, congratulated drinking a pregnant woman?
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  Speaker 7: How you feel?
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  Speaker 6: First of all, stop, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Have you got a man's gonna get pregnant without a man?
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  Speaker 4: Oh god, it's read the whole situation. Let's start. Let's start.
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  Speaker 4: Can we go back to the guys from my baby
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  Speaker 4: all the way? Yeah? I have one other way? Absolutely, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're drinking with a pregnant man's.
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  Speaker 3: Early tell us about yourself, Teddy.
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  Speaker 4: Man, that's so loaded.
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  Speaker 7: Just who are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm my daddy's son.
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  Speaker 7: There you go.
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  Speaker 4: That's about it really.
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  Speaker 5: From I'm from Georgia, from from about thirty minutes east
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  Speaker 5: of Atlanta and Connors, Georgia, Dale County, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: singing songs and I'm a good, good good boy.
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  Speaker 7: It was very soulful, soulful voice. Did you grow up
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  Speaker 7: in the church.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so my granddad was a Pentecostal pastor. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: grow up singing in the church a lot, but I
• 1:45
  Speaker 5: you know, I definitely grew up with I guess you know,
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  Speaker 5: fire and brimstone for sure, man with the with the
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  Speaker 5: fear of God.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And you're afraid to sind Oh no, no, not not
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  Speaker 3: these days.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, but I'm just talking about like back in
• 2:07
  Speaker 7: the day, it was like a very.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, you know, like what like like girls don't
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  Speaker 5: get haircuts, you know, girls wear skirts, men wear jeans
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  Speaker 5: like that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 4: It was really real kind of tight. And I mean
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  Speaker 4: I'm very fortunate.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I feel like I still subscribe to so
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  Speaker 5: many of the beliefs. I mean, not the beliefs, but
• 2:24
  Speaker 5: the like the principles of you know, even the beliefs
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  Speaker 5: aren't there.
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  Speaker 4: I do love that my my granddad was.
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  Speaker 5: As I was growing up with my granddad, he was
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  Speaker 5: he was like, we wouldn't even go to restaurants that
• 2:34
  Speaker 5: would have a bar in the restaurant, you know. And
• 2:36
  Speaker 5: not that he ever had a problem drinking, but it
• 2:38
  Speaker 5: was just he stood on his belief so much. The
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  Speaker 5: thing that I was always with him was that I
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  Speaker 5: didn't subscribe to the idea that like telling people that
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  Speaker 5: they're wrong and this is the only way to believe something.
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  Speaker 5: I remember he looked at other churches and be like,
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  Speaker 5: I think that.
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  Speaker 4: The only way he believed it was right. I remember.
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  Speaker 5: I remember the first time I sang at his church.
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  Speaker 5: I might have been seventeen or sixteen or something, and I.
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  Speaker 4: Remember him saying, like coming to me and talking to
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  Speaker 4: me and doing like you know, I.
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  Speaker 5: Want you saying at the church, Bud, But man, all
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  Speaker 5: these kids are like break dancing and carrying on for
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  Speaker 5: the Lord.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, yo, pop, like nobody's broke dance
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  Speaker 4: since like my.
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  Speaker 5: My mom was the child, and if they want to
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  Speaker 5: break dance for the Lord, like let him break dance
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  Speaker 5: for the Lord.
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  Speaker 4: You know. He was he was very you know, stern,
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  Speaker 4: like just by the buck. If it wasn't in the Bible,
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  Speaker 4: then it was a sin, you know what I mean? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: hell yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But my mom was worse than I was. I remember,
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  Speaker 5: I remember getting in trouble for all sorts of shit
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  Speaker 5: and be like, I'm like, I'm not doing any of that.
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  Speaker 5: She was thought I was doing all sorts of mess.
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  Speaker 5: And I mean, but she was a passers kid. My
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  Speaker 5: mother was the But listen, I.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted to you know, when you talk about rebellious, you
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  Speaker 2: started off playing football, all right, So yes, you was.
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  Speaker 3: Her family was a big football family.
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  Speaker 4: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: So what got you from football to singing.
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  Speaker 4: My dear friend? Yeah yeah, yeah you play Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: an offensive offensive guard as well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And but I mean I just five foot seven. Wasn't
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  Speaker 5: really happening, you know, I just.
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  Speaker 3: High school school at the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I've been.
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  Speaker 5: Five foot seven since I was in eighth grade, and
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  Speaker 5: so I thought they thought I was gonna be big,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and then it just it didn't happen. I
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  Speaker 5: started shooting up to six foot two and three and
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  Speaker 5: whooped my ass off the line.
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  Speaker 4: What got you into art?
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  Speaker 5: Like my differend Jesse, who still plays with me. I've
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  Speaker 5: known him since I was a little kid.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: His dad was always in bands and stuff and and
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  Speaker 5: and so we we started trying to experiment and play
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  Speaker 5: music and stuff. And his older sister was a musical
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  Speaker 5: theater and got us in the musical theater. And I
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  Speaker 5: just kind of fell in love with singing, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: I can I I was so I was hooked. I
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  Speaker 5: was hooked that singing has changed my life. I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: good always, but I fell in love with it, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And I remember telling my mom that I was I
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  Speaker 5: was gonna not do football anymore and I was gonna sing.
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  Speaker 4: And she was so so hurt, like brought out all
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  Speaker 4: my memorabilia, like I can't believe you do this to us.
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  Speaker 4: We would playing football, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And I remember my first little we did this show
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  Speaker 5: called Damn Yankees. I did like two lines in it,
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  Speaker 5: I think, and uh I after I got done, I
• 5:14
  Speaker 5: come off stage and she was like, I'm so sorry, baby,
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  Speaker 5: this is where you belong rarely.
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  Speaker 4: You are a star, you know. I did like two lines,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but it was what do you mean by you.
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  Speaker 6: Weren't always good at it? Like, how do you you
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  Speaker 6: so we were so bad at it.
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  Speaker 7: You know he was in a group.
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  Speaker 5: Well no, just me and my buddy Jesse. He still
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  Speaker 5: plays guitar rights and he plays guitar in my band still.
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  Speaker 5: And we we used to just always, you know, as
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  Speaker 5: we were learning and trying to build bands together and
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  Speaker 5: do it as kids. You know, we just were really bad.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we sucked, like we're just not good, like
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  Speaker 5: you can still fine. Actually on YouTube. I was a
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  Speaker 5: senior in high school. My first band, Heroic Bear, is
• 5:52
  Speaker 5: still on YouTube, our our first little EP. And I
• 5:54
  Speaker 5: was in like a metalcore band at the time, and
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  Speaker 5: so you could still hear me like screaming away and
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  Speaker 5: like sing and if you definitely don't pull it up
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  Speaker 5: now in front of me. I'm just saying, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because I love a cringe. But if you want to
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  Speaker 5: hear it, if you hear it, dude, you're gonna be.
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  Speaker 4: Like, Okay, yeah you got good.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get lessons or did you practice or how
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  Speaker 3: did you just so good?
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  Speaker 4: Well? I think I was so lucky.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I was in theater, you know, and I
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  Speaker 5: had a lot of good friends and they were singing.
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  Speaker 5: But I think I think the biggest thing was growing
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  Speaker 5: up in the like when the YouTube era was first
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  Speaker 5: kind of starting, you know, and if I had questions
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  Speaker 5: or if I wanted to know how to sing, there
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  Speaker 5: was always a live version of singer singing, you know,
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  Speaker 5: so like I could I could watch like live videos of.
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  Speaker 4: How how is how are they moving their throat, how
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  Speaker 4: are they moving their jaws? How are they second?
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  Speaker 5: You know, I could I could just sit there and
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  Speaker 5: watch YouTube videos and see people singing live, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like I remember I was a credit recovery watching David,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like singing Craig David singing like and Credit Recovery.
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  Speaker 5: I would pull up like a YouTube proxy and just
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  Speaker 5: have it behind the video and just like listen to
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  Speaker 5: Craig David just I'm walking away. I could see, I could,
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  Speaker 5: I could listen to buy videos and watch their them play,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm singing.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, do you.
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  Speaker 8: Think you like, I guess saw somebody like Craig David
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  Speaker 8: and like mimic Tim and that's how you found your voice?
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  Speaker 5: Oh totally yeah, yeah, we you know, I mean some
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  Speaker 5: of the best man, some of the best that ever
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  Speaker 5: did it. Marvin Gaye watching I was just reading man
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  Speaker 5: listening to al Green, you know this, this is like
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  Speaker 5: the these are.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't get How do you figure.
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  Speaker 6: Out what you're like your warm spot was going to be?
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  Speaker 9: Even genre wise because you're listed as a multi genre vocalist,
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  Speaker 9: people put you in R and B, country.
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  Speaker 6: Rock and pop.
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  Speaker 9: So how did you At what point did you know like, Okay,
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  Speaker 9: it's going to be a mixture of all this or
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  Speaker 9: did you try different things?
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  Speaker 4: I think I think I was just I love I
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  Speaker 4: love this instrument so much. You know this this I was.
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  Speaker 5: I was so hooked on this instrument, and so whatever
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  Speaker 5: it felt like it would would work, I'd be I'm
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  Speaker 5: such a fan of this instrument. Yeah, if I hear
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  Speaker 5: or scream or or or saying or anybody doing anything
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  Speaker 5: with their mouth that I don't know how to do,
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  Speaker 5: I'm I don't mean it like that.
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  Speaker 7: Know what you mean?
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  Speaker 4: He stop?
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  Speaker 3: He just can't stop. This is him.
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  Speaker 10: Don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean we're just getting started.
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  Speaker 7: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: He likes it.
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  Speaker 3: Keep going teddy.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, see how that sounds that you said it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm laughing to no.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean I just fell in love with the instrument,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, I want to I want to
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  Speaker 5: know how to do I want to know how to
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  Speaker 5: access that. You know, however people do it, whether it's screaming,
• 8:40
  Speaker 5: whether it's opera, whether it's whatever it is. I want
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  Speaker 5: to be able to do that. I want to I'm
• 8:46
  Speaker 5: so in.
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  Speaker 4: Love with this this thing.
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  Speaker 5: We're so capable of expressing emotion and lending you know,
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  Speaker 5: life stories that way, and I just fell in love with.
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  Speaker 7: The science to it that I think people don't respect.
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  Speaker 8: That's what I know you you're a real artist, just
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  Speaker 8: the fact that you keep calling your vocal and instrument Hell.
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it's it's it's such a muscle that and
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  Speaker 5: I think it's the only instrument that you can kind
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  Speaker 5: of take everywhere with you and practice at all times,
• 9:08
  Speaker 5: you know. But it's also it's bound to you by
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  Speaker 5: your like your decisions or your like, uh travel, your
• 9:15
  Speaker 5: sickness or whatever's going on.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's always it's always ever changing and bound to
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  Speaker 5: what you know, what you did last night and wake
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  Speaker 5: it up at nine point thirty and sounded like shit
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  Speaker 5: the next day, you know, So it's it's always bound
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  Speaker 5: to you. And I think I think, I think, I
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  Speaker 5: think it's still like one thing in the world. That
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  Speaker 5: is like your thumbprint on the world.
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: You know, your your voice is is only yours.
• 9:34
  Speaker 5: You can you could with a guitar, or you could
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  Speaker 5: take the same amp, play the same lick with the
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  Speaker 5: same exact guitar and the same pedal and sound the same.
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  Speaker 4: But with your voice, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Like only you have that, you know, and it's such
• 9:46
  Speaker 5: a special thing. And your circumstance and your your heartbreak
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  Speaker 5: and all that stuff is all a part of something
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  Speaker 5: that makes you so uniquely you.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: And then you started doing these covers, right, and you
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: started covering songs, and then you did one cover that
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: started shooting up crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So talk about that a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I think Shania Twain, I'm still the one was
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  Speaker 5: our like, that was the one that really kind of
• 10:09
  Speaker 5: went crazy for us.
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  Speaker 4: That was, you know, I love.
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  Speaker 5: My mama and my mama loved Shannaa Twain when I
• 10:16
  Speaker 5: was coming up. I loved Shania Twain too. That that
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  Speaker 5: was that was a real life changing one for us
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  Speaker 5: and I our first one we started out with was
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: because June twenty fifth of twenty nineteen was the first
• 10:27
  Speaker 5: time I never even expected doing covers, you know, online
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  Speaker 5: and and uh, we had found like the we found
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: the the uh stems of Rock with You online and
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: Michael Jackson. Yeah, and so it was it was ten
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  Speaker 5: years right after he passed. It was this ten year anniversary,
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  Speaker 5: and so I said, well, we should just do Rock
• 10:45
  Speaker 5: with You by Michael Jackson used to pay homage to
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: him and for the you know, and then and we
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  Speaker 5: uploaded it and it started doing well, and was like, man,
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: we should just keep this.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: I guess this cover train is kind of going. So
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: we kept on for.
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  Speaker 5: You know, the next few months, and I think, I think,
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: I think the beautiful thing about starting with with Rock
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  Speaker 5: with You it started getting you know, like this said.
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  Speaker 5: The first day we woke up, we had like ten
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  Speaker 5: thousand views and it was so life changing for us.
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  Speaker 5: We like the boys, we're getting a hammered. This is sick.
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  Speaker 4: And uh, I think I think it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was such a weird thing because once it hit
• 11:16
  Speaker 5: like this this critical mass of like maybe five hundred
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  Speaker 5: thousand views. I think people were looking at it and
• 11:21
  Speaker 5: seeing the way I look and then seeing the rock
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  Speaker 5: with You, you know, and saying rock with You by Michael
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  Speaker 5: Jackson and me and and I'm you know, looking like
• 11:28
  Speaker 5: an absolute redneck and saying like, either this is hilarious
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: or this is actually really good. And I think for
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: our benefit it was it was kind of both, you know,
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: because just the fact that I was singing that song
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  Speaker 5: but doing it well was just you know, kind of
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: funny and surprisingly good.
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  Speaker 8: The first time I got put on you, it was
• 11:47
  Speaker 8: actually in the barbershop because it was on YouTube and
• 11:51
  Speaker 8: he had you playing, and I'm like, that is coming
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  Speaker 8: out of that, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a special thing for me.
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  Speaker 8: And I mean it is I almost want to say
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  Speaker 8: it's an think, but it is one of those things
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  Speaker 8: that gets you attention.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think there.
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  Speaker 5: I think there has been a I think there's been
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  Speaker 5: something that we have been able to lean in that
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  Speaker 5: that it doesn't look like what it you know, art
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: doesn't look like what it sounds like, right, And I
• 12:12
  Speaker 5: think that's been something that's been so beautiful for for me,
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  Speaker 5: is to be able to have such a mode of
• 12:18
  Speaker 5: expressive voice and look like I make fart jokes, you know,
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: and yeah, you know, because I know we all know
• 12:26
  Speaker 5: what heartbreak is like and we all think farts a funny,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and that's that's just kind of my m O.
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  Speaker 8: And it's not about what comes out you that's funny
• 12:34
  Speaker 8: nowadays about what.
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  Speaker 3: Can make you funny.
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: Kids make you look funny too, Curious curious.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I got worried about you.
• 12:56
  Speaker 7: You tried everything with therapy.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: Well, I've tried therapy.
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  Speaker 5: Now there's uh, I've I'm you know, even as we're
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: getting ready to o a kid, me and my girls
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  Speaker 5: have been doing even couples therapy too, which has been
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: so wonderful and making sure we're coming in and having
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  Speaker 5: this child and the most healed communicative communicative good D
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  Speaker 5: what is the word?
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  Speaker 4: You know? Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And we're trying to make sure we're doing it
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  Speaker 5: separately and and couples therapy and bringing bringing this baby
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  Speaker 5: in the you know, the right way and hopefully and well,
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  Speaker 5: I mean we're still gonna have baggage, of course, but
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  Speaker 5: most healed, safest environment possible. But I think I think
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  Speaker 5: name of the album that was was kind of to
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  Speaker 5: have that conversation and with myself, to get myself to go.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's just like been in generations past and
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: even still there's this like connotation on therapy that we're like,
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  Speaker 5: so I know, we're not we're not allowed to we're
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: not allowed to go to that, or we're not allowed
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  Speaker 5: to share our feelings or emotions. Yeah, you know, And
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: and I just it's been life changing for me. And
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  Speaker 5: I did have even this in my brain and I
• 14:00
  Speaker 5: was like, I'm not crazy. I don't need that'sh it,
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  Speaker 5: you know. I had this for so long that I
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: was like, I know myself, I don't need nobody to
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  Speaker 5: tell me what's wrong with me, you know. And I
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: feel like I feel like once I got it to
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  Speaker 5: it, it was so much different than I thought it would
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  Speaker 5: be too. And I feel like there was something beautiful
• 14:16
  Speaker 5: about having that first album and not trying it and
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: being in a place of turmoil on heartbreak with somebody
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  Speaker 5: that was made me feel like my feelings were invalid
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: or not allowed to have and and having this part
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: two coming out and being this thing of I've tried therapy,
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: I'm back in love, I'm having a child. I've got
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: some level of success in this and you know, we
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: on the back of heartbreak, it does get better on
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: the other side, you know.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: And I'm just so grateful.
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: For Was it was you going to therapy?
• 14:43
  Speaker 9: Was that pushed on you, not pushed on you, but
• 14:45
  Speaker 9: did your girlfriend kind of like influence you to do.
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: That or something you want.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: I've been, I've been, you know again, I was, I was,
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: I was. The plan was to have tried therapy after
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: I put out the record. It was like kind of
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: my promise to myself that that the first one, like
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go to therapy. And I did push
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: it off for a long time. But I think I
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: think when we first found out we were kind of pregnant,
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: she was like, you know what we should do?
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: We should do.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: It was never to push on a therapy, like to
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: me to have my own therapy, but I think I.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: Think she's such a wonderful person.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: I think she was just like, we should do therapy
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: together as like a couple of therapies, so we make
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: sure we bring our kid in. And it kind of
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: once I felt how that was, I was like, you,
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I should do some therapy by myself, do you And
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: she's like, I think that's a great idea.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: So it was never kind of pushed.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: It was kind of like I think she planted little
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: seeds for me to man strong ass woman.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Come yeah, a strong ass woman.
• 15:37
  Speaker 9: Now.
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: I think she just kind of knew how to like
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: plant plant a little seed for me to find it
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: on my own.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: Which is what it should be like. You know.
• 15:42
  Speaker 9: One of the things I read you talked about is
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: you want to you're are you already back down south
• 15:47
  Speaker 9: and left l A from the fire?
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: No?
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: No, we're in l A. Still, We're in the valley.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: And I mean also I think we're we're doing okay.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: We haven't seen like you know it was it was,
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: had seen a little bit of smoke in our area,
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: but we we haven't been home because of I don't
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: want to her breathing that thing, you know, but I
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: think I will say though, it's been so beautiful about
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: that situation and my my prayers and prayers and prayers
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: and so much prayers is going into that. And what
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: makes me feel like I think us as a society's
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: I feel like we can all be so jaded and
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: so like tough and hardcore, but when when it's when
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: a tragedy happens, you see how like quick people are
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: to come together and love each other. And that that
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: community in LA is like coming together and everybody's donating
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: their time and their money and food and I don't
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: know I just I haven't seen I haven't seen a
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: place be that. You know, look, we really we we
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: we unite when everybody's going through something together.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that that's happening.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: You know, it makes me reinstills my faith in humanity
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: that I know, when shit hits the fan, we all
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: do love each other, you know, at the core of
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: it all, we're all like, we love each.
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: Other because I think, regardless of if you black, white,
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: gage s grade, rich, poor, when a mother nature hits
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: none of us which is all of the mercy of
• 17:06
  Speaker 8: mother nature, but at.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Least we look out for each other at the end
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: of the day. And I think that's what's so beautiful.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: It's this is like instilled my fate again. And like
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: in society, I'm like, God, I love that we all
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: have just pulled together.
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: And so, are you going to stay in la with
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: the baby because you're gonna move down south?
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: You said, yeah, I mean, of course, I'm probably still
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: gonna have to like rent in l A. I think
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I might still just rent, but I was gonna buy.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: And it's just spooked me. I want to I want
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: to be able to like I might move back, you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: maybe to Nashville where I could work and still be
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: like four hours from the parents if they want to
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: drive up and see a baby.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: But I still want my little boy to have like
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: a little or girl. I don't know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: But that money in the South, man, yeah, you know,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and your money goes far.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: Baby had a little Southern accent, you know what I'm saying, Like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I want to open doors and you.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: Know afternoon.
• 18:00
  Speaker 9: Ganging that's walking in behind you.
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: Donnelle Rowlins thinks that he's the reason that you're having
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: a baby.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: And he said that, y'all. I saw y'all on he
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: was on his podcast.
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: He said, yeah, and you said you wanted to have
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: a kid, and he told you that you was gonna
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: have one.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: But man, and this, I can't tell you enough how
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: much like man when they say, don't meet your heroes,
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: they was right. Donelle Rollins is a piece of ships,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: the nicest.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: He's the nicest person.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: You say about him.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Your initial statement, but no, keep the rest of it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: I want to hear that they'll be like, damn, bro,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: I love you. That's what been one of the nicest
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: he sings me all the time. Man, He's like, he
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: sends me we just talked yesterday, and uh he's He's
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: my fucking.
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: Hero man Rollins.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Dude, he's such a nice.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: You see when he was up here last time.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: No, but he was just doing uh what was ra you? Yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I just missed him. We came in. I just missed
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: him too, and he sent me.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: He sent me he was on yesterday the day before
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: or something like that, and he just sent me him.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Whose Yeah, but man, he's.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Why you don't have Donell tattooed New Year cock?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: What you have?
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: He had Da Chappelle tattooed near his cock. Yeah, don't.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Day right here? Man? Actually?
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: What made you put date right there?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Though? I was just I don't have that much room laugh.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: He sting to do like, hey look at my No
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I did. I didn't. I didn't.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: At the meeting like last year, he had like this
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: gravy party and I got he was doing this open
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: jam thing and it was cool and I got to
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: meet him and I was like, hey, look, uh, Dave,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I got a tattoo of you.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: He was like hell yeah, you know. We tapped up.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: About it and then I was like, I'm not going
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: to trial, you know, and show you my tattoo.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Of course I also know what like you can show
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: a picture.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. Also then I don't want to.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I don't want to think what he thinks, and that
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: it's like too close to It's really not that close.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not hanging that bad anyway. It's serious a couple
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: of years.
• 20:17
  Speaker 11: So when a woman's down there, why are you satuated
• 20:21
  Speaker 11: with this day?
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is it's not It's not that close, dude,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: I'm not working with that much.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: I thought that you said so now, yeah, he's but
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: I thought you said it was the night of the
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: MTV Awards that you found out. You figured you backtracked
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: it and thought that that was the night that you
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: conceived your kid.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the the v m as when we conceived. Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: So I had nothing to do with done now for real.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: No, I didn't. After I I would.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: I was in I was in Europe when I talked
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: to Donell and we were talking about it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: That was before we knew we were pregnant.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I guess we might have been already pregnant
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: at that time. You know, we were pregnant at that time,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: but I didn't find out until way later.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: We were playing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Austin City Limits, which was I don't know when do
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: you guys know when we played October when we found out.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: So I wanted, okay, the name Teddy Swims. We got it,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: We got you, we got you, got you to guess well.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I just handed that to I was like, I was
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: like my mom would have no. No. I was just like, yes, man, no,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: not on a dirt road, but I mean it was paved.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: We had chickens, but in a fave we had chickens.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: We had chickens.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Name Teddy Swims. Where did that the name come from?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I've been called Teddy forever.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: My real name is Jaydon And I think as I
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: was like going to a church and waiting tables and stuff.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: And uh it just old ladies. That was tough. Jayson
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: was real tough on them. They just Jamie James, you.
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: Know what, old ladies. Because for us, that's like Jane is.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I don't really know how to responded.
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: That it's not that hard to cheat.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: He heard, what kind of ladies?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Like, gosh, let me trying to avoid that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Question, Teddy, which just you know that coin is you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: I've just been teddy. You know, it's our little Teddy.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: I just look like this without a beard for most
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: of my life and that yeah, yeah, for.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Someone who I massage sexually, someone who is gonna me sometimes.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I've been just been switching it up lately, trying to
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: think of new ones, like soft Winter in my shorts,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: like I've been thinking of new ones.
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: Someone me sometimes, Like you mean, like so you turn
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: into this characters.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: No, I don't know. It was.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I first originally found it on like this this this forum,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: which it was like it was like a every time
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: swim does this swim becomes like you know, it was
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: like it was like a drug forum I found it on.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I was like people were saying someone who wasn't me,
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: So it's like kind of like asking for a friend thing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: I guess we just like added an ass on it
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: swims like the plural form, and it was like my
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: entire kind of group at the time. And then Teddy
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: kind of slapped in front of it and it just
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: eventually became Teddy swims like itself. Like it was it
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: just kind of stuck, you know, it was like.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Swims was our unit.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: And then it was like Teddy swims from like like
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: Teddy Frum swims kind of situation, and it was.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, just like he would maybe have like a.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like an asap Rocky and Asap Ferg that swims
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: was kind of our unit. So it was like Teddy swims,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: and then then it just stuck, can you actually swim?
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: No?
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Wow, Jim, I don't know how.
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: To respond to that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I feel I feel like my face is
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: getting read like the first I.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Don't know why.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I know, I don't know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: You around your neck like mean something, represent something.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: No, this is just a cute next Okay, yeah, it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: like a yeah. I don't know.
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: I feel like like he was saying, you're outside looks
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: so much different than what I thought you would look
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: like from when I first heard you. I'm just curious
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: as to like, what are some of your interests outside
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: of music.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to get back to you that because
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I've been. I've really I've really been.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: I've really been in this place where we've been discussing
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: like hobbies, you know, and I think of like I
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: would like to have some of.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Them, you know.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: I think it would be cool to have something outside this.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: I think I think being a father is gonna be
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: the best thing that's ever happened to me.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Because of that, I feel.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Like I feel like I'm going to learn the how
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: to be like President in a different way, you know.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I feel currently there's I say this all the time,
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: there's like a nine year old on TikTok who's better
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: than at our job than any of the like to
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: do all of our job, you know. And so I
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: just always feel like I'm in this place of like,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: go get it, go get it, somebody else is getting
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: if I'm not getting it. And even when I sit
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: down and watch a TV show, I'm like, I should
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: be I should be going.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: I should be going, I should be going.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: And I think I think what I'm really looking for
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: that baby teaching me is that when I'm watching TV
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: or shitting there, I know that being present with that
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: child's gonna be the most productive thing I could be
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: doing and.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Doing nothing at all with that child.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: And so I think I'm going to make my home
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: balance and my work balance all matter more in that way.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: And so I've been thinking about hobbies, but I think
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: like I'm gonna be I'm gonna I'm gonna pick up
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: hobbies at that baby likes like that baby wants to
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: play football.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: We're gonna be out there hit somebody. You know what
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm gonna be a damn coach.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Baby, I'm gonna you gonna see me like with my
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Netflix special, Like how like Snoop Dogg had.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: The whole league going. That's what I'm trying. I'm gonna
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: we're gonna we go be in that bitch that some
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: what you're gonna do like that. I want to. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: want to. I want to.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: I want to be football coach, you know, or or
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: whatever it is, you know, whatever whatever happens.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Cheerleading coach. I don't say, you really think it's a boy. Yeah,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I hope.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: So I didn't mention cheerleading cheerlead too.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just I just I got two little
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: brothers that are eight and ten years younger, so I
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: don't have to white poop off the balls, you know
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I think the first time around, i'd like a boy.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like it a girl right now, Like disciplines
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: out the window for me.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am girl.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah, wanted boys to but I ended up with all
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: four girls.
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: I can't wait, man, my yeah, my dad, I'm one
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: of four boys, and so he wants a girl, you know, And.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Were you a hope in a path life?
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: Like I was literally about were you a hope?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Like did you swim a lot the past life?
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I was like maybe I was like.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: A woman now where you know?
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: I was?
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I was always, I mean I had my fun, like
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: like after my last relationship before this one. It was
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: the first time I was like single and famous, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: I was like, this is cool. I had my little
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: I swim down a little bit, you know what I mean.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's cool. I love you though, baby, But
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: but I never I was. I was.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I was like a serial dater for a long time
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: in my life, you know what I mean, like being
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: loved and and and doing the same thing for a
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: long time.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: But I did have my fun before, you know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Because they say, if you're a wope, you can't have girl. Yeah,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: you can only have a girl. That's why he has
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: four girls.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: You got girls too, and mid all right, I was
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: very very sweet.
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: How did you know that your girlfriend right now was
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: the one? Because you met her. You met her at
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: a show, right, she came to one of the shows.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, babe, you she's the one.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: You see that girl, I've seen her if you're dating
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: and like, what was the thing?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: It was?
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: It like you saw her and you just knew.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I had been listening for music for a while too.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: So my my dear friend Arsenior Archer, he's a producer.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: We went to high school together, and he's like, man,
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: he came to my studio a couple of years ago.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, man, I want to show you
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: this girl I've been working with it. I listened to
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: her song they've made. I don't think the song ever
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: came out and I looked up and I.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Was like, whoa.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: She was saw her?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: No, like I love you. And then a couple of
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: years later, I'm going back to Atlanta.
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: She was living Atlanta at the time, and her.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Roommate was like a fan.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: She was like, Hey, my roommate, you know, wants to
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: come to the show. We'd love to come to show.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Come see you. I was like, please come to the show.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I would love to have you. I'll put you on
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: the guest listen.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: She came and shut and I said, you know, bold
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: up a plate o snake and.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Like, what you say?
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: What did you say?
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Teddy?
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Shot? Hi? How are you?
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: And that was Hi? I love you immediately?
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Aady, yeah, that's my first thing. I message a couple
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: of years before that said shot, what's going on?
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know you knew? You knew when you
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: saw her?
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: So I think I think it's so important dude, to
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: like and in relationships with anybody. Navigating relationships. Are just
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: not the person to waste time with relationships. I think
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: it's like even even with like even if if me
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and this person and we're both single, I'm just like, okay,
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: let's get this. Let's just clear the air out. Do
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: you find me attractive? I find you attractive? Do we
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: do anything about that? Are we going to be friends?
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Like, let's just navigate this before we're both thinking about
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: it and I'm going home and I'm beating off and
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: then I'm thinking about you.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: But we're spposed to be best friends. And you know
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, let's not do all this. That's not
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: let's not play. You know, I'm navigating conversation.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: You know, I think I think women appreciate that. I mean,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know if it was that straightforward,
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: but I think.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't do that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: But I didn't say that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: If you think about it as I.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Didn't say that, I can say that's that's that's I'm
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: saying just as an example of not something I would say,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: but as as as definitely appreciated, and.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: If not, then that's cool.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: We can both we can both acknowledge that we're attractive
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: and also be pals, you know, the we're adults here.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: We can we can navigate relationships with beautiful women, you know.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: Can I can we talk about some of this music
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: on this new album?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Sure?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I'd love to you to leave it about four minutes.
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: I'm not don't check the text. You should have shut
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: up not Your man is a very vulnerable record.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: Have you ever really felt like you gave everything to
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: a woman and it wasn't enough?
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Hell yeah, man. I I mean, I was.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: I was in a place where I think it was
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: important to start this one out like that. Because I was,
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: I would have wrote this forever.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I was. I was in a place with somebody where
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: my I know it's hard.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: I don't want to talk about her in a way
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: that because I now, as I've grown and healed and
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: moved on, it's I I thank her for for what
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: we went through, you know, and I'm grateful for that
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: time and space that we had together that that pay.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: But I was at the place here where I felt
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: like I.
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Was given everything and and my my feelings in my
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: I was not validated or it was not enough, or
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I was crazy to feeling this way, or I was.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: It was it was abusive situation. I don't know. I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: don't want to I don't want to say it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Oh both man. Physically she was she was just not good.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: She was not a good person, and I don't you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: I'll never say it. I hope the best for her
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: now and I don't want to say that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: You know. It's a it's a tough thing to talk about,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: like I won the best for her.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it was a very tough thing to try
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: to try to heal somebody, try to make space for
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: someone to heal, try to give somebody everything and them
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: to not You would think you would think if you
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: had a if you had a passion, I'll just make
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: it like this, you had a passion in your life,
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: and you had somebody in your life that says you
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: could quit your job and just focus on your passion.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I'll take care of the rest. You got it, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: you don't do anything with your life. But you just
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: go on just eat za eggs all day and lay
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: around and blame.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Somebody for your shortcomings when you you had the opportunity
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: to follow your dream and somebody that would support you
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: with your dreams, and you'd be like so surprised to
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: see if somebody had the opportunity to follow their dreams
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: and they had everything taken care of. How many people
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: would be like, if everything's taken care of, I don't
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: gonna do shit anymore, you know. And and you can't.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: You can't put ambition and drive into somebody.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: You can't. You can't, you can't heal nobody, you can't
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: save nobody. And I've started to go on that tangent.
• 33:15
  Speaker 11: But from that situation, do you feel like you no
• 33:19
  Speaker 11: longer and able because it's like, though you want to
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: do something out of love to better somebody, sometimes it's
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: to their own detriment.
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think I Yeah, I think it's
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: a It was an enabling at the end of the day,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: you know, I was doing something to help someone become
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: but I think at the end of the day, I
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: was enabling somebody to do nothing, and if that was
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: inside of them, I was enabling that. And I think
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: it's a common pattern, you know. But uh, I yes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to heal and learn to not see somebody
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: wants to be this and or see what somebody for
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: who see somebody for who they are and not who
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: I want them to be or think they should be.
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: That's even outside of relationships, Like, how are you handling
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: just those type of boundaries now.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: You're uh, we're you know, we're working on boundaries at all.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: I'm learning those. Yeah, that's a huge step for me.
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: Just boundaries is in general, it's it's a it's a
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: it's a it's a full time job just navigating having them,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: So do you feel guilty when you're like, no, I can't.
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I mean I can tell you got a
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: big heart. But people will take advantage of hell.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm also grateful to be I don't want
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: to say I'm grateful be taking advantage of that.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful to be available.
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: You know, everybody's gonna use you, but don't let people
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: misuse you a man.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I heard this advice from this always meet
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: and greet one time and this beautiful this lady, she
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: says a therapist. She said, the way people the way
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: people will treat you as a reflection of the way
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: they see you. You know, the way people treat you
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: as a reflection of the way they see the way
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: you let people treat you as a reflection the way
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: you see yourself. And that beautiful And it's stuck with me. Man,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: it's such as I'm learning boundaries.
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: Yes, I have a last question for you. In meeting
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: you and just hearing you talk about first of all,
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: it's just such a nice person. I was reading this
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: interview you talked about because your girlfriend's black, and you
• 35:12
  Speaker 9: talked about like when you guys are in the South,
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: you get like looks from people and like it bothers
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: you because love should be love. How do you guys,
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: now you're about to bring a baby into the world.
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: You're so positive. She seems so amazing, but the world
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: is not always like that, Like what's your Like, how
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: do you defeat that? Because you're really a really nice person,
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: Like it breaks my heart.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, thinking about that, I hate, I
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: hate how much she's go through and she's you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: so her her dad's black and her mom's white. So
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: she she's she's gone through this, like tells me about
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: stuff all the time, about like, you know, how she
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: felt not wide enough or not blacking up, and how
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: much her her world in her life has been such
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: a I guess, like a juxtaposition in both sides, you know,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: feeling like she wasn't quite accepted by either side, you know.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: And so there is not a story.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: I won't I won't tell you her story because she's
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: better saying it than I will.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: I'll never tell you her story. But I see how like.
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: How beautiful she is and and and how how I
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: guess how like elegant she navigates being who she is.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: She's the most incredible human being I've ever met.
• 36:19
  Speaker 7: Man for you all to talk to. I love Lamar
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: Johnson Like.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Black and White.
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: The song of Money Loan that titles is a little
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: on the nose, don't you.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Think, Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Think I think I think that the point of it
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: was kind of the the.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: I think to the core of love in itself is
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: black and white, like it's a it's a black and
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: white issue.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Love is love.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: And not love is not love and loving, whether if
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: it's a person of a different color, shape, eyes, uh, sexuality,
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: same sex, whatever it is. I think that the thing
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: was trying to say that we no matter what, we
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: could come from different worlds. It's it's a true, I
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: guess Romeo and Juliette story, you know, kind of is
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: the basis of it is that like you know, we
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: we come from different places, we come from different cultures,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: we have different things.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: But when you're in love, man, love is love and
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: and that should be enough.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: And that's really there ain't nothing right about that, man,
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: It's just love.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: You know, Love is love. Maybe you know I.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: Love that record and it's a good stamp because you know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: money Long recently went viral for saying she's not writing
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: soulful songs for white artists.
• 37:36
  Speaker 7: Did you see that?
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: I did not. I'm glad I got that one before.
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: She said exactly.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: To cut off.
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: But that shows how much your respects to you.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Maybe she hates that song and that's why she said.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: She's I done fucking Teddy man, I'll not doing that again.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: When did she do that song with that long did
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you do that a while ago?
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we did it. It's had to be a few
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: months ago now.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: My dear friend Jeff Kitty and Mickey Echo was a
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: part of it with us too, and we we like
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: started working on it, and I remember, uh, Jeff Kitty
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: as has been working with Money for long years and years,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: and he's like, man, should we see if if Mornie
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: wants to do this song with I was like, I mean, yeah,
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: that's like that's we'd kind of like to do a
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: record like this.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: We would kind of need that, you know.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: I would be so stoked that she'd be willing to
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: because I knew what I kind of wanted to say.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: But also I can't say that, you know without having
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: money helped me say that, you know, but also without
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: like relying too much, you know.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: I think I needed to.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: We needed to say that with you know, together, and
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: so I'm just grateful she took that opportunity to say,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: I see what you're trying to say. I have you
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: say that, you know, and and said it with me,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: And I think I'm so grateful for her because Money's
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: just a legend.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Man, what a bad badass.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: You also said you wanted to meet one of your
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: musical idols, were Stevie Wonder You ever get an opportunity.
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we haven't met in person, but yeah, yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: and I got I got a chance to do a
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: record with him too. So, uh, I think he's gonna
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: put out on his next record.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I hope.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: So, I hope it's gonna come out. I'm really excited.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: It's it's a good record. It's called Politics Player and
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: uh yeah, which is such.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: An honor to be on Steve Wonder record. But yeah,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: he did FaceTime. I'll tell you that. It's so funny. Man,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: he FaceTime. Yeah. And here's the thing. Here's the thing.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: He is actually blond, y'all. He this is true life.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: He was blond.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: I'm saying people say it. People, there's a conspiracy that
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: he's not.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Look, I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: I was on the phone with this I was facetiming
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: this man and he said, he turned this, he put
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: the camera around. He said, this is my son over here,
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: and then he said I'm over here today He's pulled
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: and he said, and this is my niece. And then
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: he had he had phone facing her and for the
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: next ten minutes of the conversation.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I look as far as you are. I looked at
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: his niece.
• 40:10
  Speaker 10: And he.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: Was holding up he was holding the camera like he
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: was talking like he don't all season.
• 40:18
  Speaker 10: I did not have the heart's.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Blind she was.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: She was sitting there.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Blind. She was sitting there texts on her phone.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: I didn't have the hard to say, hey, I can't
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: see you. Well, you know, my dumb ass man, my
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: dumb that's the reason he called me because I was
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: in Tokyo. I was in Tokyo and I had found
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: I had found my favorite album, all time, best album
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: ever Songs in the Key Live. I found a CD
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: of it. It was a Tokyo version of it, like
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: the Japanese version of it, and my dumb ass taxing
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: him a picture of it, Oh my goodness, like an idiot,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: like he was gonna see it right right, Like I
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: just checked him.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I found, Bro.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I found bro.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Saying his face time. So I was like se and
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: my fucking dumbass too, was like you give a touch.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: He's definitely he didn't see it.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I just just to put all those things to rest, shut.
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: Down It's crazy.
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: All these years black people have been trying to figure
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: this out and you are the one that solved the problem.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I just I just I just know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: I was looking at his knees about fifteen minutes against bemeditated.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: You gotta go for him because you gotta go do elbows, bro, Yeah,
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: you gotta.
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: You gotta come back, man, I got thanks for the
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: record too.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Let's play the what you want to be even Real?
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: You play that one?
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, man, he got joints that she got it with
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: Coco Jones and Glorilla. I like funeral funerals.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Really, thank you.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: What you want to hear?
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: Hamil to the heart is my joint though.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no way, thank you.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: I mean yeah, put it on forgive me on man,
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: my dog brother investing the business man.
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: There you have it, any swim ye.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you for joining us.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much, laughing at me. I'm honored to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: be here, truly. Thank you.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Let's get into the record are you even Real? Feature
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and give you on It's the Breakfast Club, Good morning.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club