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Joe Rogan Experience _2523 - Ali Siddiq(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening? Good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Same.
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  Speaker 2: We were just talking. Sorry, I had to pause Jamie
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  Speaker 2: before the podcast. So you were telling me that LeBron
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: James is not going to go back to the Lakers.
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  Speaker 2: How old is he now?
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  Speaker 3: Forty-one. 41.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What is the oldest that an elite athlete has been?
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  Speaker 3: Tom Brady's 44, I think, NFL QB. That'd be pretty
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  Speaker 3: high up there.
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  Speaker 1: How old was Kareem?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good question. How old was Kareem when he retired?
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  Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins, I think, would be the next.
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  Speaker 2: Bernard Hopkins is number one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bernard Hopkins.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking about how he beat Kelly Pavlich at 42.
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  Speaker 1: But Bernard had a couple of years to.
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  Speaker 1: Incubate a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. You know about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not take damage and steal up the mind. He had
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  Speaker 2: the most intense discipline. That guy never got out of shape,
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  Speaker 2: which is also a giant contributor to longevity. Never was
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  Speaker 2: building back. He wasn't like a 42-year-old who was like,
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  Speaker 2: You know, he took six months off. I haven't been
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  Speaker 2: in the gym. No, no, no. Every day it was running, nutrition.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was always on point. Never buried.
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  Speaker 3: Kareem was like 42, I think.
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  Speaker 2: So he might be the oldest of the past guys.
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  Speaker 2: But this was before all the science, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the science changes things.
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  Speaker 4: The science.
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  Speaker 2: So we were just talking about the science. So, Jamie,
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  Speaker 2: what are they allowed to take and not allowed to take?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: It's like the NBA used to, like, I think. For
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  Speaker 5: weed stuff, they used to say that they'd get tested,
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  Speaker 5: I think, October 1st, which is right when preseason starts.
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  Speaker 2: For weed?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And so as long as you were clean on October 1st,
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  Speaker 5: then you're good because they wouldn't test you the rest.
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  Speaker 1: Of the year.
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  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: But now, I know in the NFL, if you have
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  Speaker 5: a crazy game, you're going to get tested the next day.
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  Speaker 5: They're just going to check you for what was going
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  Speaker 5: on with you yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, why would you play good?
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think the NBA does that specifically, but I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. Honestly.
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  Speaker 2: So what are the rules in the NBA in terms
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  Speaker 2: of marijuana now? I thought that was part of the
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  Speaker 2: thing that they negotiated in the contract to make sure.
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  Speaker 2: Because a lot of players like to be high when
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  Speaker 2: they play.
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  Speaker 3: I think they might just have to stop testing for it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to mention names. But I'm friends with some guys,
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  Speaker 2: and they tell me they can't play unless they're high.
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  Speaker 2: That's the same thing with pool players. I know a
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  Speaker 2: lot of pool players. They like to get lit. Before
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  Speaker 2: they get on the table.
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  Speaker 1: Pool, you should be lit playing pool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel things better. Here we go. NBA can
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  Speaker 2: randomly drug test each player up to four times during
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  Speaker 2: the season and two times in the offseason with additional
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  Speaker 2: tests allowed any time there is reasonable cause. But marijuana
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  Speaker 2: is no longer part of the standard testing panel. Yes, sir. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so they can smoke weed, which makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Let them.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. What are you doing? It's not hurting anybody
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  Speaker 2: and they play better with it. I think. Leave them alone.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think. Unless they're doing meth. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: They also had another big betting scandal that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: broken recently in the last 24 hours there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 5: Where a player has been called out for throwing at
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  Speaker 5: least four games. And then where that's going to go
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  Speaker 5: from here is kind of being speculated online.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you where that goes. If people find out,
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  Speaker 2: it goes to Bullets. That's the problem. The problem with
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  Speaker 2: someone throwing a game is somebody bet on that fucking game.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people bet.
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  Speaker 5: On that game. The two cases I've seen, though, are
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  Speaker 5: the overs. They had player props, and he needed 4.5 rebounds,
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  Speaker 5: and he has four, and he's just trying extremely, extremely,
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  Speaker 5: extremely hard to get that extra rebound.
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  Speaker 3: Which is like, that's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. That's not that bad. That means he's
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  Speaker 2: playing well.
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  Speaker 5: And the other one, which was he was fixing a
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  Speaker 5: spread in the last second. Like he sprinted down the
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  Speaker 5: court to get an extra basket with like three seconds
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  Speaker 5: on the clock when they were down by ten or
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  Speaker 5: seven technically to beat the eight and a half point spread.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but so what? He's just scoring.
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  Speaker 5: How can you ever– It's just– when you watch basketball enough,
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  Speaker 5: you go, like, that doesn't happen that often.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you do that? That's gross.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially– yeah, you're used to people throwing the ball
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  Speaker 1: and just throwing it down there, not you running down.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but if you can do it and score,
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  Speaker 2: why wouldn't you do it? I don't even understand why
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  Speaker 2: anybody would question that.
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  Speaker 1: You're down by 10. It's five seconds to go. The
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  Speaker 1: game is over. Fuck you.
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  Speaker 2: I want that ball in the net.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck you. Man. Woof. No– Why? Because that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to change. Oh, we lost by eight.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it just means you're competitive to the end. You
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  Speaker 2: never give up, even though you know you're losing.
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  Speaker 1: And no starters on the floor at this time. You
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  Speaker 1: down by 10, it's five seconds to go. No starters
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  Speaker 1: on the field.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not like he's missing on purpose. So
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  Speaker 2: it's one thing if the guy's, like, missing on purpose,
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  Speaker 2: but if he's scoring on purpose, leave him the fuck alone.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so similar thing.
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  Speaker 5: World Cup just happened, like, two, three nights ago where
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  Speaker 5: they just got into the knockout round, you know, so
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  Speaker 5: the big tournament was every team plays three games to
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  Speaker 5: figure out where you end.
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  Speaker 3: Up to play the next part of the tournament. Ten
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  Speaker 3: teams get eliminated.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 5: Third place teams for the first time ever can make
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  Speaker 5: it through. And so there was a, I think it
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  Speaker 5: was Algeria and I forget the other team. Sorry. But
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  Speaker 5: if they both tied, they both moved through. If one
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  Speaker 5: team wins and one team loses, one team goes through.
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  Speaker 5: And then the, like with four minutes to go in
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  Speaker 5: the game, they're kind of just passing the ball around.
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  Speaker 5: The score is tied and one team goes ahead and scores.
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  Speaker 5: And it kind of starts a fight on the field
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  Speaker 5: where you see the other team yelling at the other.
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  Speaker 2: Team, like, fuck you.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I don't know exactly what they're saying, but like, what, like,
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  Speaker 5: And then with like two minutes to go, the other
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  Speaker 5: team sort of just stops playing defense and kind of
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  Speaker 5: seems to like let them score.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 3: Is that a big collusion or if they just sort
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  Speaker 3: of like.
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  Speaker 2: Made an agreement? Don't they have mics on those guys?
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  Speaker 3: It's such a crazy.
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  Speaker 2: They have to have mics on somebody. They have strong
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  Speaker 2: mics now, and they have people that can lip read.
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  Speaker 2: They can pick up, hey, motherfucker, you're supposed to leave
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  Speaker 2: this a tie. If that happens, you can't play anymore, right?
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  Speaker 2: What happens to those guys? They have to get suspended for.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be both teams, the coaches, it'd be everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really know how it's going to pan out.
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  Speaker 5: But it was very.
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  Speaker 2: What a conundrum.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How could you do that? Like, I hate that. This
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  Speaker 2: is what I don't like about sports betting. Not that,
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  Speaker 2: because that's about advancing. But about sports betting is even
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  Speaker 2: the consideration that a person is playing a certain way
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  Speaker 2: because they're worried about a spread or because they've been
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  Speaker 2: paid off to not score or they've been paid off
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  Speaker 2: to foul. The problem with these things is you can
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  Speaker 2: bet on anything.
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  Speaker 1: You can bet on anything.
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  Speaker 2: Anything.
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  Speaker 1: Anything.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're a crooked and What has been the
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  Speaker 2: most crooked aspect of the fucking human race over the
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  Speaker 2: past 100 years, other than the legal system? The most
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  Speaker 2: crooked aspect has been sports betting. It's always crooked.
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  Speaker 1: Sports and politics. Politics. They damn near.
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  Speaker 2: They're all the same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the same.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same. It's money. Anytime there's money involved and
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  Speaker 2: decisions can be shifted, influence can be used to make
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  Speaker 2: something happen.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems like that with most things that people...
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  Speaker 1: you know, have some type of, you know, hierarchy desire for.
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  Speaker 4: They.
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  Speaker 1: 100%. They gonna put something in, you know, like, even with, like,
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  Speaker 1: awards and games, this is a... Who can promote the best?
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  Speaker 1: And who can... If you can take all the people
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  Speaker 1: that vote to dinner and, you know, smuse them at dinner,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a... thing where who's going to beat
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  Speaker 1: you when you have all the voters? Or you have
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  Speaker 1: a situation where you have people that work for your
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  Speaker 1: company that can vote. How are you not going to
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  Speaker 1: vote for the project that the company put out? We
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  Speaker 1: got 60 voters. We at least got 60 votes.
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  Speaker 2: I think you said it best when you said the hierarchy.
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  Speaker 2: That's really what it is. It's in anything that has
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  Speaker 2: any kind of a hierarchy. Politics is the ultimate example.
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  Speaker 1: Politics is the ultimate example. Ultimate example.
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  Speaker 2: But there's that hierarchy shit in everything in the world. Everything.
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  Speaker 2: And it trips people up.
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  Speaker 1: But with politics, it is a little more detrimental than
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  Speaker 1: with sports. Sports is, you know, you're gambling, people trying
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  Speaker 1: to win things. But with politics, it's like, if you're not,
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  Speaker 1: somebody that's not qualified can be in a position where
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  Speaker 1: You know, they make decisions on the masses of people's lives.
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  Speaker 2: Not just that. They can appoint judges.
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  Speaker 1: Which is?
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  Speaker 2: They can appoint crazy judges. Like, there's obviously judges, like,
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  Speaker 2: they have disputes. Well, why do they have disputes? Because
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  Speaker 2: they're ideologically captured on both sides. There's people that are like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, certain right-wing judges. You throw some case
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  Speaker 2: out there that's a right-wing case, abortion rights, whatever it is, immigration,
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  Speaker 2: you know how they're going to vote. Same thing with
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  Speaker 2: left-wing people. Like, hardcore left-wing people, you guarantee. Trans women
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  Speaker 2: in sports? Trans women are women. Let them play in sports.
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  Speaker 2: That was a recent Supreme Court order. Three judges said
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  Speaker 2: that trans women should be able to play in women's sports.
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  Speaker 2: The rest of them said, fuck no. The other six
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  Speaker 2: canceled it out, luckily.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, those people are not— taking into account
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  Speaker 1: the sport. Like, it's a difference if you was originally
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  Speaker 1: something and now you're playing as something else. Your strength
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  Speaker 1: is different. Everything's different. And, you know, you don't feel
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  Speaker 1: that until your daughter gets knocked out the ring where
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  Speaker 1: she's supposed to be boxing somebody that They're the same gender.
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  Speaker 1: Then now she's, her whole side of her face broke from,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: It's insane. It's insane. And it's not cruel to not
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  Speaker 2: let that happen in sports. That's what Title IX is
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  Speaker 2: about in the first place. Give women the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: play in an equal time as men. That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Having men that think they're women play with women is
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  Speaker 2: fucking crazy. It doesn't mean, you know, you need to
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  Speaker 2: cast those people out of society. It doesn't mean anything.
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  Speaker 2: Live and let live. I agree. But get the fuck
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  Speaker 2: out of the women's room.
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  Speaker 1: You have a dick.
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  Speaker 2: Get the fuck off the team. You're running track at
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  Speaker 2: a literal women's Olympic level, and you're 15.
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because you have a dick. This is crazy. You're not
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  Speaker 2: really a girl. This is nuts.
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  Speaker 1: That's the world we live in. I'm not even going
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  Speaker 1: to say that's the world we live in. That's the
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  Speaker 1: world that's being presented to us at this point.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and it's a lot of things like this, man.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This is why in comedy I choose not to go
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  Speaker 1: the current affair or the political route. Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: have time to separate the room. I'm too busy trying
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  Speaker 1: to do things to bring the room together. And that's
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  Speaker 1: more of a righteous aim for me.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you, I said this before, so I'll say it
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  Speaker 2: live publicly. What you've done is very extraordinary because you've
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  Speaker 2: made a giant following online completely organically. It's very inspiring
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  Speaker 2: because all you do is just do your thing the
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  Speaker 2: best that you can and put it out there and
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  Speaker 2: it just keeps growing. It's amazing. It's very cool. It's
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  Speaker 2: very inspirational. And you should be proud of it because
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  Speaker 2: what you've done, like I said, it's totally organic. Like
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a bunch of production companies pushing you
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  Speaker 2: and trying to make you more popular than you are. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's all just putting it out there. and getting this
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  Speaker 2: gigantic following just from your work. Just the work.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. And then, you know, even with that, you
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  Speaker 1: still have some type of responsibility to not see things
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  Speaker 1: the same as other people. Like, I just got all
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: this flack about me talking about how this business of
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: people inflating things has caused depression in comics. you know,
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  Speaker 1: that we're supposed to be a happy craft. But now
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: it's this big push about if you're not on social media,
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  Speaker 1: you're not on this, you're not on that. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of these comics are, you know, going through this mental
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  Speaker 1: health thing where they always sad about their numbers, you know,
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  Speaker 1: or this, that, and the third. Like, yo, man, it
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  Speaker 1: is a thing. And some people inflate things. And everybody
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: wants to be on the same level. So sometimes you...
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  Speaker 1: You can't be, or you can, but people look at
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  Speaker 1: it as a certain way where when you're proud of
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  Speaker 1: the steps that you've taken. And if I played in
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: the G League, that's not the NBA. So I wouldn't
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: say that I played in the league because I know
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  Speaker 1: what the league means. I know this says this is
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  Speaker 1: the G League. But when I present myself, yo, you
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  Speaker 1: know I play in the league. People automatically think the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: The G League is not knocking the G League, but
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  Speaker 1: that's not the first thing that comes to my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Playing for the Washington Generals is not the NBA. Even
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  Speaker 1: though you played against the Globetrotters, they were great players.
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  Speaker 1: But we know how this game goes. But that's how
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  Speaker 1: people see things now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the numbers thing is real. The numbers thing is
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  Speaker 2: a real problem with people because it gives you a
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  Speaker 2: quantifiable measure of whether or not you're doing well. And
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  Speaker 2: if you already have anxiety, which a lot of comedians have,
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  Speaker 2: you're already like socially awkward, which a lot of comedians are.
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  Speaker 2: You don't feel accepted, which is how a lot of
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  Speaker 2: comedians feel. And then you look at those numbers. You're
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  Speaker 2: like 2,400. I only have 2,400 followers? I've been doing
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  Speaker 2: comedy for seven years. Why do I only have 2,400 followers?
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  Speaker 2: And then you go to someone's page that you'd never
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: even heard of. They have 1.2 million. You're like, what
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  Speaker 2: the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: And, and so this is about being grateful in the
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: position that you, you're in. I remember when they were,
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  Speaker 1: people was pushing me, how you need to get on
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  Speaker 1: the internet. You need to be on social media. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But I would see those people that had all those followers.
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  Speaker 1: And that same year, The year before that, I did
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  Speaker 1: a half-hour special with Comedy Central. Then year 2018, I
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: did a full-hour special with Comedy Central. I had 500
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  Speaker 1: followers on Instagram. I had 300 subscribers on YouTube on
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: a page that I didn't own. I had to fight
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: to get this page. I had less people on Facebook,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: but I was efficient in what I was doing. So
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  Speaker 1: the numbers didn't, they didn't pick me because I had
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  Speaker 1: these numbers. They picked me because I came and I
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: did what I did. And then they, oh, he's great.
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  Speaker 1: So then we started going, you know, a route to
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  Speaker 1: build it up, but we were already getting things prior
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  Speaker 1: to the numbers. Right.
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  Speaker 2: What year is this again?
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  Speaker 1: This is 17 and 18.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So the difference is that in 17 and 18,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: people were just starting to be aware of of the
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: power of social media. And then they were really concentrating
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: on different comics that had a large social media following.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think that was like right when it
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: first started happening.
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  Speaker 1: Dane Cook had blew up before that.
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  Speaker 2: That was a, yeah, that was a MySpace thing.
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  Speaker 1: That was a MySpace thing, another internet thing. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. That was different. But the difference is like
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  Speaker 2: he had gotten so huge just from that, that he
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: was already doing like arenas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, So he was already huge, and then they just
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: went with him. But he was, like, super popular. Now it's, like,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: super popular on social media. It's one of the most
• 16:33
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  Speaker 1: So now moving up to this, because I have a
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  Speaker 1: a million followers there, all these specials. I still didn't
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: get invited to the BET Awards. I still don't get
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: invited to. a bunch of things. I still get looked
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: over for things, even though I have numbers and success,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: but I don't worry about it. I'm just in my,
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  Speaker 1: But I also have no desire to inflate things and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: compare myself to somebody or make myself seem like I'm
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: more than what it is. Like, guys are, hey, man,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I'm at this room. I got 50 tickets sold. Okay.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: How much the room seat? On Room C-300.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You had 50 people more than if you didn't play
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the room. You know what I'm saying? Because who knows
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: you in Utah? It's a building thing. Like, I got
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: all of this, all of this. going on. But if
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I go to Utah, I'm in a comedy club. It
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter what happened the night before. I was just
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in the arena. But in Utah, it's like it takes
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: me back to on Trading Places. He said, hey, man,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: he gave all this. elaborate what this watch is. And
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that man said, this is what this calls in St.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Louis.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't care about you buying the watch.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: And so I don't have that. And I'm not, if I,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: it's like you, you, you own a club.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It's guys that can come to your club and sell
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: your club out. And then it's guys that come to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the club and you pay for the room. Okay. Then
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: it's guys like when you in the theater, some, you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: can scale a theater down. Some theaters hold 4,600 people.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But you can scale it down to 2,000. But then
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say if the room holds 4,600,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I put 2,000 tickets on sale. I didn't sell out
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the theater. I sold what I put on sale. You
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Because I'm not to the point
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: where I can get the 4,600 yet. If I could
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: sell the room out, then I would need to relish
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the real accomplishment versus the lesser accomplishment.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Inflating.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And because I don't have this thing where I'm
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: in competition with what happened before me.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: With other people.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm in San Antonio. We at the theater. Because
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: people can make you feel bad about anything. If you
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: a person that feels bad, just think. Minnesota. It's all
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: these people that's on the team that play for the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Boston Celtics that are millionaires. They're already millionaires. They play
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in the league. Boston traded seven people to Minnesota for
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: one person. Kevin Garnett. They got rid of seven human
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: beings today. For one person. So it's like, if I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: was a person that felt bad about my career, this
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: would make me feel bad. Like the first person that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: they asked, okay, I'm going to trade this person for
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: that person. They're like, no. Well, I'm going to give
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you two more people. They're like, no. And then, well,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you four more people. They're like, okay.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And a lottery pick. Okay. I'm going to feel horrible.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: They traded me for seven people. Y'all didn't even want me. Realistically.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So Boston went. They got Kevin Garnett. I mean, yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett and seven other millionaires. They got all this money.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: They went to Minnesota. So if somebody wanted to make
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you feel bad about something, they could if that's how
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you are. So I'm in San Antonio. The line is
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: around the block. The place is sold out. It's the
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: same place. sell out no matter who comes in. That
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: lady said to my face, you should have saw it
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: when Matt Rife came. I was like, in my mind,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, and I asked, I said, was it
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a different theater? She said, no, same theater. So when
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Matt Rife came, he sold it out. I sold it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: out two nights, I mean, two days in the same night.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But her thing was, you should have saw it when
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Matt Rife came. I was like, okay. She probably wanted
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you to feel bad. I was like, but I'm not.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Good for you. But the thing is, a lot of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: people would. That's what it is. A lot of people
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: are in competition with other people. I think you should
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: be inspired by other people. You know, if you want
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: to compete in that way, be inspired. But the moment
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: you turn it into a negative, it's like, you're a fool.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: You're being a fool.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Compete in charity.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Also, inspiration is power. It's fuel. If you see someone
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: doing well, so you see someone set and you like it,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that's fuel that makes you want to go work. Makes
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: you want to get some shit done. It gives you energy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Or it could cripple you if you're a dummy. If
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: you're a dummy and you get angry and you get
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: bitter and then you just put all this negativity on
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the person who's doing better than you, which a lot
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of people do.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That's a weird dynamics in this business when you know
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that it's going to be people. No matter what you're doing,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it's going to be somebody doing better than you. When
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I was... In comedy clubs, I remember being there and
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: they were papering the room. Okay. I wasn't saying I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was selling out. They was papering the room. I know
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: out of all these, 300 people in there, 240 of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: these people came because it was freezing. They sent out
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: their email blasts. But then what I looked at was
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: they wanted to come.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They wanted to come. They're probably comedy fans, which
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: is why they were on the email list in the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: first place. And then those people, you give them a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: great show, they'll come back.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Then the next time I came, they didn't pay for
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the room. They sold the tickets.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: That's how it used to be, man. That was the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: old days before social media. You would build a market.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: So you would just show up at Philadelphia once a year.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Show up, do your homework, make sure you got a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: tight set. You've been practicing. You're ready to rock. Fuck
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: these people up and then leave. And then they're like,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: can't wait till you guys are back again. And then
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: next time you come back, you know, all right, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: built an audience now. I can't disappoint these people. I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: got to get fired up. And that's what it used
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to be. It used to be a totally organic thing
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: across the whole country.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Is it a thing? Is it a difference, in your opinion,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: between me bringing my audience to a venue from whatever
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: other thing that I do versus... people coming that don't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: know anything about me and me winning that person over
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: versus the person that I already know.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different thing. You know, people are coming
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to see you specifically. You've already won them over. That's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a different thing. Or they want to take a chance
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: on you. That's a different thing because they've heard about you.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: But when, you know, that's a completely different thing because
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that's your, you have an audience now. You have fans.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: When you are just performing at a club and it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: a papered room, You have an opportunity. You have an
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: opportunity to turn these people into fans. You have an
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: opportunity to give these people a great night and have
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a good time. And also you're doing your fucking thing,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: which is the most important thing of all. Everybody is results-oriented.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I try to be process-oriented. With everything I do, I'm process-oriented.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I think about there's a goal that you've got to reach,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: but how do you get to that goal? The way
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you get there is not thinking about the goal. The
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: way you get there is thinking about what you're doing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: What's the process? The process is writing bits, performing them,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: tweaking them, getting them tight, knowing, reviewing tapes, going over
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: your material, going over your writing. talking with friends. And
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: then every day it gets a little bigger. Every day
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it gets a little better. Every day that knife gets
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a little sharper. That's the process. That's the process that
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: leads you to become whoever, whoever you are.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And then you add other little pieces in that process.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I remember I was talking to Bobby Lee and me
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and Bobby Lee talking. I said, Bobby, you don't realize
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: where you met me at. And he's like, well, is
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: this going to be a good story or is.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It a bad story? Bobby's got a lot of bad stories.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I said, you met me at the Houston Improv, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: they called me and asked me did I want to host.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: A room that I already sell out, they asked me
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: did I want to host. I said, cool. So I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: came and I hosted, and I was not trying to,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: but I was destroying his feature. I'm just hosting.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you should not be hosting, especially at the Houston Improv.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But my thing was, this was years ago. But I say, Bobby,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: you don't understand. When I was hosting at the Houston Improv,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I was doing something that most people didn't understand why
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I was even doing it. And they would see, like,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: why would you be hosting? I said, because I'm not
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: going to be in front of Bobby Lee's audience. But
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: it's people that live in Houston that, his audience that
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I have no idea who I am. I said, Bobby,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: but before you, I said, I was coming to the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Houston Improv hosting for multiple people, and I was just
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: winning over fans that would never had seen me if
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: they wasn't coming to see you. They wouldn't be coming
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to my show. I said, so before that, it was,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you were last, Bobby. It was you, and the week
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: prior to that, it was Monster Bronny. And the week
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Prior to that was my girl, Angela Johnson. Angela Johnson.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And before that, it was some random white guy. I said,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I just came. And I want to do a comic.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So me hosting was no big deal. I wasn't working.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So I said, well, let me just come host it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: That's what they want me to do. So I gained
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: fans from four different audiences. In a month. So when
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I came back, it was like, yo, I saw you
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: with Miles Jabroni. And so I came back to see
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you when you put your show up. I'm like, cool.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So my process, that was a part of my process.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It didn't matter who I hosted for. I was like, okay.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: You know, let me go like when I hosted for
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Bill Burr. Bill Burr was like, this is crazy. We
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in Austin at the Paramount and I said, the worst
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: thing about this was that at the time I was
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: wearing all black and I went to the show And
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: when I walked on stage, the first thing I said is, hey,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I do not work here. Like eight people asked me,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: where's the bathroom? I don't know. I don't work. But
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it was like, I look like an usher. Like, yo,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: this sucks. But it was a cool gig.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. That's a smart approach. I mean, that's a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: great way to build, especially if you're already headlining. Yeah,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: I think that thing about concentrating on the process People
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: should try to apply that to everything. You know, my
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: friend John Dudley, who taught me archery, he's a big
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: believer in that, being process-oriented. Like I say, you get
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: better at archery, and he used to compete all over
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the world, travel, compete in archery tournaments. I think that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: applies to everything. I think it applies to music. I
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: think that applies to everything. I think one of the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: things that trips people up about social media, a lot
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of these young guys in particular, young people in particular,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: is that they are thinking about other people and they
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: are comparing themselves to other people and they are looking
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: at those numbers. And you're looking, you're spending all of
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: your energy, if you haven't allotted 100 units of energy
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in a day, you're spending a disproportionate amount on things
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: that don't empower you and actually kind of fuck your
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: head up. Not good for you at all. Instead of saying, wow,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: I am chasing the fucking dream, right? I am out
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: here being a professional comedian And I have a real
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: chance to develop a real following. If I put my
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: time in, I put my effort, I really care and
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I really work hard, I could sell out a theater
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: one day. That's possible. Like that's a goal. It should
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: be a goal just like getting your PhD in chemistry
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck it is your goal is. But
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: the process is what's important. The process is like appreciating
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: what you're doing, why you're doing it, and just bearing
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: down and doing your best. That's it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And other people, look at them as inspiration. Other people
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: that are kicking ass, you know, don't become a hater.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That shit is so bad for you. I know so
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: many dudes who have like hater tendencies and they never excel.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Never.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: It's the counter thinking of an excellent person is a hater.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Someone who's always trying to diminish people and downplay people
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and look at someone in the least charitable way and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the worst possible way. There's some out there that are
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: trying to make themselves feel better, but it doesn't work.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It does the opposite of work. It robs you. It
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: robs you of your self-esteem. It robs you of your self-respect.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: You're spending so much time thinking about this other dude. Like, why?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of energy. And my dad, this is
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: one story that I did not put in the special
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that I should have. And my dad had all these thoughts.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And I literally say he was a crazy man. But
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: when you think about the things that he would say,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: made sense my dad and why would you be telling
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: me this at the age that but he just gave
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: him i think i was like 11 and my dad
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere just say you know something people been
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: spending the same time and money on being fake when
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: they can put that same time and money into being
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: real yeah and i'm like i didn't know i understand
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: what that meant but as i got older if you
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: spend any money or time faking something, you could probably
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: spend that money and time being real about something. You know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: why go buy a fake necklace to act like you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: rich when you can go buy a real necklace? It
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: was saying at some point it was saying, and, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: be actually be rich, you know, if that's what, if
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you compare it to necklaces, but I just didn't understand
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it at the time. But then as I got older,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I understood like, why put this, why put this time
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in to pretending when you can put that same energy
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and then become real at what you do. It makes
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: no sense.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: My uncle Vinnie, when I was six or seven years old,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: I was staying at his house with my cousins. And, uh,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: We were supposed to brush our teeth. And I didn't
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: like following rules, period. And so I wouldn't brush my teeth. Instead,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I would take toothpaste and smush it around on my teeth.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: And so that when they smelled my breath, they would
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: smell toothpaste. And my uncle explained to me, he goes,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I understand why you're doing it. He goes, but the
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: amount of time that you're spending pretending to brush your teeth,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: you could have just brushed your teeth. And I thought
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: about that when I was six. I was like, damn.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I was just a little kid. But I was like, ah,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: he's right. Why am I faking brushing my teeth? I
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: was six years old. My Uncle Vinny was, like, super patient,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: super calm. Out of all my family members, he was
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: the strangest. Out of all these wild, crazy Italian people. Like,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: he was an artist, and he was, like, very soft-spoken
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and never got angry about anything. He would always speak
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: really rationally. I was like, God, he's so smart. He's
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: just so peaceful. But the way he laid it out,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: he didn't say, hey, I know you're not brushing your teeth,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you little fuck.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: It was the time you're spending pretending to brush your teeth.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: You could have just brushed your teeth. But it was
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: like sometimes adults will say something to you like that
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: when you're six. And it just gets in your head
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: and you're like, whoa, okay. That just saved me a
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: whole lot of time.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Like I can just brush them.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Just brush your fucking teeth. Stop pretending. Stop faking. It
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't help anything. It does the opposite.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: It does the opposite. And, you know, people, the truth
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: sometimes is hurtful to people.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: The truth doesn't feel good, you know, to a lot
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: of people, unfortunately. But, you know, you have to look
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: at it. You have to have perspective.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: But that's the ultimate hate right there. That's the ultimate
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: hate is for me to. give you a falsehood instead
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: of tell you the truth right that's the ultimate it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the ultimate hate.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Especially if like you're making up a background for yourself
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you're making up a story about your life that's not
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: true you're pretending you're somewhere in life that you're not.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: You know yo man just do the thing just do
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah but it's hard for people it's hard for people
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: and then there's a lot of people that think you
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: just fake it until you make it And you hear
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: stories of this guy. I had $ 500 in my bank account,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: but I told them I got this. I got that loan.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: And next thing you know, my business is making all
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: this money. And you go, wow, he faked it until
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: he made it. And it worked. And you think it's.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Going to work.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: This doesn't work most of the time.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: That's so few and far between. Then they never tell
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you that that guy goes to jail later for fraud.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, 100%. 100%.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: The feds busted my house three years later and took everything.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: You're like, okay. Exactly.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Like when they arrested Carl Spence here recently for all
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: his counts of tax fraud, I was like, okay. I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: don't want that to happen to him, but there it is. Right?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what it is.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not laughing at Carlos Mateo. I'm just laughing at
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the fact that you're like, yeah, when they bust his car.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, it didn't bring me any joy to see that.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I don't like anybody getting arrested for taxes. I think taxes,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: until they have an accurate account of where the fucking
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: money goes, and until you completely eliminate all fraud and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: waste— What the fuck are you doing locking people up
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: for not paying taxes? Like, you guys should get locked
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: up for not doing a good job with our money.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So what you think about all the new purchases and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: redoing the White House and all this with tax dollars?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Did they do it with tax dollars? How much money
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: did they spend in tax dollars to do the ballroom?
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Let's find out.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: They need a ballroom, though. That's how that guy snuck
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: in with a gun because they tried to do that
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: White House correspondence dinner in a hotel. That dude who
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: got arrested a few months back.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: What's this resolution, the pool, something full of algae right now?
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that. That's something about making
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the pool look nice, whatever that is, reflecting pool.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the reflecting pool.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Reports indicate the new White House East Wing ballroom is
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: projected to cost about $ 600 million with roughly half, just
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: over $ 300 million coming from taxpayer-funded government accounts, despite earlier
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: promises that it would be taxpayer-free. $ 300 million sounds like
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: a lot until you find out how much money they
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: spend on other things. When you find out just how
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: much fraud is in NGOs, how much fraud is in nonprofits,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: how much fraud is in insider trading and propping up
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: companies so that they can get better deals... The whole
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: thing is fraud.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: The thing is, if you're spending, I understand how much
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: money goes in other things, but if you're spending any
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: money that's my money that I don't know that I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: need it or that's not really the aim, the goal.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: You should be able to vote on it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: You should be able to vote on it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: You should be able to vote on where all your
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: tax money goes.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: How much tax money is being spent on getting smart
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: people in places, making smart children?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: That's the big one.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: The big one is... If you look at our country
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: as a community, and that's what we're supposed to be doing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: We're supposed to be the United States of America. All
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: that bullshit aside, that was the one good thing that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: happened about 9-11. When 9-11 happened, after that, we were
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: all united. It was crazy. It was crazy. We realized, like,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: we are actually on a team. So if we're on
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: a team, why do we have these deeply impoverished neighborhoods
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: for decades and decades that are riddled with crime and
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: drug abuse?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Is it impossible to fix? That's crazy. That's not true.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: It's just no one's tried to fix it. No one's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: done any effort to fix it. And if you did
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: fix it, you want to make America great. Here's the
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: best way. Less losers. And how do you get less losers?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: More opportunities for people. More opportunities, more support, more education,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: more everything that you need if that was your neighborhood.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: And if we did that... We'd have to switch the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: way our system runs, but that could be done, man.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: You don't have to have losers.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Not that many.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: That's the thing about make America great, right? If you're
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: trying to make anything great, don't you need intelligent people
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to do that?
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: That's the number one thing.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So when we have all these divisive people that's on
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a lower vibration, how is that making the country better?
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the country great if we're putting people in position that
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: don't have the experience or the education in those things.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: And then we just saying a bunch of divisive things.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You know, it was, if I'm watching the extravaganza that
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: happened in the White House, what was the thing, Michelle
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Obama is a man? Like, how did that help? How
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: did that help?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: That guy says that every time.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: But what is the thing? First of all, it's really
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: divisive because you know that a large portion of the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: country is going to have a problem with this. Clearly
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: she's not a man. But it makes no sense to...
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I've never seen this many people say so many damaging
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: things about a past president. It's like he's still on
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the forefront and it's not like we have a president
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: that's doing the greatest job for this country, you know,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: which is weird, a weird thing to me. And people
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: are going to ask, is that what's the belief? That's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the real belief of people? That's the real thing?
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, there's some crazy people that believe the world
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: is flat. There's a lot of dumb beliefs. There's probably
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: people that do believe Michelle Obama's a man. What that
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: guy does, he's like a pro wrestler. Like, he's got
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: a character called the Incredible Hulk. It's very... corny in
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: a lot of ways sometimes it's you know cringy but
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: the point is he gets a lot of attention a
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: lot of attention because of all this that's what he's
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: doing so what he's trying to do is maximize the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: amount of attention that he can get for a very
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: short window of career this is not how he really
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: feels how he really thinks when you talk to him
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: in real life he's very reasonable this is an act
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: that he does like a pro wrestling act but what
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: he can do is fight he's really good And that's
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: what's so confusing about it all. So you got this
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: guy who's created like this fake persona where he puts
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: on an American flag bandana, comes out to Hulk Hogan music,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: does all his interviews with sunglasses on, has a bunch
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: of crazy, silly rhymes, and says ridiculous shit just trying
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to get attention, the most amount of attention. It is
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: very divisive. Don't get me wrong. But that's by design.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: So he's Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage in the same person.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: But an actual fighter.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But an actual fighter.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: And a really fucking good one, man. He just knocked
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: out Derrick Lewis at the White House. Derrick Lewis has
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the most knockouts in the history of the sport.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Don't do that, Joe.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Don't do what?
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Don't say that so excited because Derrick Lewis go to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the same gym. on Main Street Boxing Gym in Houston.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: I'm very close to that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Dude, I love Derrick Lewis.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that Derrick Lewis lost that fight.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I think Derrick of 10 years ago would have been
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: a real fucking problem for that dude. Because Derrick of
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: 10 years ago, you couldn't hold him down. He would
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: just get up. There's a whole compilation of people trying
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to hold Derrick Lewis down. He just gets a hand
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: on you and just whoop, you're fucked. His grip, they
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: did that UFC grip thing where they test the grip.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Everybody's like 140. The strong ones are like 160, 190.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Derrick just squeezed it casual, 218. And they were like,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: what the fuck?
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: So you see how problematic this was for me. You
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: already beat my friend. Then you turn around and say.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: He beat a 40-year-old Derrick Lewis.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: A 40-year-old Derrick Lewis. Then turn around and say, Michelle
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Obama's the man. I was like. Okay, you know what
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I know what you're saying.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm pissed. Listen, you're right. I'm like, I'm pissed.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: You're right. But I'm telling you, if you met that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: dude in real life, you would get it. He's just
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a dude. He's just a guy who is a competitive wrestler,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: played in the NFL. And he's like, I got to
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: do something to figure out how to get people to
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: pay attention to me. Because it can't just be fighting.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It's not enough. If you look at Conor McGregor, you
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: look at Sugar Sean O'Malley. You look at these guys
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: that have these flamboyant personalities, these big personalities. Cassius Clay
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: is the original example. They get an immense amount of attention,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and that translates into much more money and much more opportunities.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: There's no fucking way that guy would have gotten that
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: fight at the White House if he couldn't fight. Because
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: the fight that he had before that, he fought Curtis Blades,
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: who was a top 10 UFC heavyweight, huge wrestler. And
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: they went to war, dude. I mean, he put it
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: on him for three fucking rounds. Like, Curtis just has
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: an insane heart and survived it. But that guy can
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: fucking fight. But just that alone is not enough. You
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: got to get attention. I don't agree with it. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. It's not my thing. I don't like it. Right?
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: But I get it, and it's smart.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: With Muhammad Ali, though, he was very respectful in his act.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you know, to get attention.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: You know, just like- No, he wasn't. I mean, he
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: wasn't with other people, but he would show up at
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: fucking Sonny Liston's house and scream about him on his
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: fucking front lawn at four in the morning. He did wild,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: crazy shit. He did a lot. He was just all
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: about getting your heart rate up, getting your emotions in there.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: He was so fucking smart. He knew before everybody that
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: you could just get somebody into a frenzy and they
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to sleep. Their whole life revolved around
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: fighting you. And I can't let this guy beat me
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: in the fear of losing. He's going to keep you weak.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: It's going to keep you. You're not going to be
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: able to eat as much food. You're going to feel nervous.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But you see what happened when somebody called him Cassius Clay. Oh, yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Who was that? What fighter was that? He
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: kept punishing him, saying, what's my name?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Your mama name. But that didn't work out for him.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: He beat the sleeves off of him.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: He beat the piss out of him, and he carried him.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: He carried him while he was beating his ass. Dude,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: he was a special, special guy. You know, I'm not
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: comparing him in terms of his cultural significance to Josh Hokut, because,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you know, he was, my parents, my mother and my
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: stepfather were hippies. They never watched fighting. But when he
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: had a rematch with Leon Spinks, that's how much of
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: a cultural figure he was. They wanted him to beat
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Leon Spinks. Like, oh my God, he's got to win.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: He's got to win. Hippies sitting in front of the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: fucking TV in like 1970, whatever it was.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: How crazy it is to have Italian hippies. Because I
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: heard it. It was like my family was like, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: thought they was Italian.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Well, they were hippies. But, you know, my grandmother went
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to jail for running numbers for the mob. So it's like,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of, uh, okay. There was a
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: lot of real Italian.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Grandma went away for a little bit. She wouldn't rat
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: him out. So she did some time.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I was at a, I was at a show one
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: time and I said, um, well, the Africans and in,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: in here and this Italian dude, he's from Sicily. He
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: raised his hand and I said, And the people were like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: why is he raising his hand? I was like, he knows. Like,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: he knows.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: He knows.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: So he was like.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a really good reason why Sicilians have darker hair,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: curly hair, darker skin.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: The Moors.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: And that's all I said was, he knows. And people
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: who got it, they was like. Right, right, right. And
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: at that point, it's like when people don't know that
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: you have some sort of level of intelligence. And they're like, oh, okay.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: It's a big thing. But that's funny, though. Italian hippies.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: But my brother also.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there was a lot of hippies back then, man.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: And I think the original idea behind it was great.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: And I was just watching this thing today about the
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: CIA and LSD and what they did. It was really funny, man.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: It was a.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: That video?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that cute Animal Day show. Isn't it dope? See
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: if you can find it. Put it up because it's
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: kind of cool.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: There's conveniently an MKUltra hearing going on right now.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, how convenient. Listen, bro, I got it right here. Jamie,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I'll send it to you. They 100% are still doing that.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: No ifs, ands, or buts. If you think they did
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: that in the 60s and they 100% did, if they're
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: doing mind control experiments on people and they're influencing people's
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: opinions and half of the reason why people are at
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: odds with each other all day long online is probably
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: government intervention. At one point, or some government's intervention. If
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: not ours, Russia and China.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: This is wild that The CIA created the hippie movement.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: And your mom's favorite band probably helped them. In the 1950s,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: the CIA bought up the world's supply of LSD. They
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: brought it to the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly, who reverse
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: engineered it, giving them an unlimited supply and a complete monopoly.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Then the testing started. One early volunteer for these tests
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: was Ken Kesey. Kesey wrote a book inspired by this experience,
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: which became a bestseller. Then Kesey went on to host events,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: which he called acid tests. And he wasn't charging anyone,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: he just wanted people to show up and do acid.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: For these events he hired an unknown house band called
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: The Grateful Dead. These events became wildly popular and with
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: them rose the popularity of the band. So The Grateful
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Dead begins touring and Kesey follows them around in a
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: bus from show to show.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: And everywhere he went he brought.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: A vat full of Kool-Aid laced with LSD. This guy
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: had a seemingly endless supply, exporting the hippie culture all
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: around the US. Meanwhile, the CIA is flooding college campuses
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: with LSD under the guise of research. And the Grateful
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: Dead was just one of many bands in this movement.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: At the same time, in Laurel Canyon came a wave
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: of musicians with something in common. They were all children
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: of high-ranking military officials. The biggest names in music. Jim
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Morrison of the Doors was the son of an admiral.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Frank Zappa's father was a chemical warfare specialist. Even Crosby, Stills,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: and Nash. Yeah, all three of them. And all of
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: these bands as well. The theory is the CIA orchestrated
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: the hippie movement to steer a very real anti-war movement
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: into something a little easier to combat.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Dissent without teeth.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: The hippie slogan was literally, Turn.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: On, tune in, and drop out.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: In other words, do acid and remove yourself from society.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: And a lot of them did drop out of society
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: to go live in communes in the woods. This intersection
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: between hippie culture and the CIA could all be a
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: great big coincidence. Maybe military brats naturally want to rebel.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: And maybe the CIA was giving away acid because they're.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Chill like that. Maybe the CIA created the hippie movement.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: And your mom's favorite band probably helped them.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't that wild?
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: That's wild. They also had a big influence on gangster rap.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Big influence on promoting gangster rap.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: 100% proven.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: 100%. Yeah. They wanted to fill prisons.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: You want to push that over anything else. You know,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: because we can look at how rap music changed and
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: when it changed. You know, 1992.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: After 1992, there was like no more positive rap.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Well, it was whenever Straight Outta Compton came out, because
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I was in Boston at the time. I remember to
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: the day it happened.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: But Straight Outta Compton wasn't a drug-filled-induced album. If you
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: look at a lot of the songs that was on
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: that album, it was rebellious songs against the system.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Fuck the police.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And then... 1992, man, when they decided, yo, we don't
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: want no more De La Soul. We don't want no
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: more Tribe Called Quest. We don't want no... You get
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: them leather medallions off your... It's like, yo, we need... Like, yo!
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Self-destruction and West Coast All-Stars, they was like, what? They
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: coming together? Hell no. You know, we need... this to
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: be divisive. We need them to separate. And that's crazy
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that the biggest times that I've experienced this country being
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: together was the Olympics when the Dream Team came, 9-11,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and COVID. That's the biggest time that we, the three
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: biggest times I've ever even seen us together.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because we need something. We need something that's real.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: We need some sort of an event that makes us realize,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: first of all, the fragility of life. That's important. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: we have to realize that we're all supposed to be
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: a part of a team.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And you can't play on a team if your teammates
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: don't think that you're valuable.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Not only that, you can't play on a team if
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: your teammates are poisoning you. If your teammates are allowing
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: you to eat rotten food so that you can't play
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: and maybe giving you inferior gear on purpose. and maybe
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: keeping you in a place where you can't get sleep
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: so that you're not gonna evolve. You're always gonna be tired,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be fatigued, so you're never gonna get better
• 54:08
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  Speaker 1: This is how I see it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: That's not a good team.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: This is how I see with parenting. It's hard to
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: parent if your number one goal is survival.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It's hard to parent.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you got to parent from a comfortable space.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: You can't parent from nervous chickens really don't lay eggs.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: That's true. So the thing is, you— like the way
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I parent now versus how my mom, my mom was
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: strictly survival. So my thing is survival first, you know
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Then the rest of it, you know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: I don't remember going to, um, on vacation with my parents,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you know, like vacation. What? Your mom working two jobs
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and going to school, trying to better, she's just taking
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: care of you. So I'm not, my kids go on vacation.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: You know, it's different. You know, so I see things
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: from both sides all the time because I'm in, which
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: makes me grateful. I'm grateful that I can do the
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: things I can do with my family, you know what
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, versus parenting from a place of frustration. You know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: but I understand this, this frustration thing. You know, I'm
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: trying to take care of you, you know, and then
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: sometimes I look at my kids like, You know something,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: you have it really easy because if I wouldn't have
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: washed them dishes, my mom would have destroyed me.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Because her mindset is, hey, I'm trying to take care
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: of y'all, y'all got the help in this. You know,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: with me, it was like we have a housekeeper. You
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? The housekeeper come in four days
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: out the week, you know, and now I'm like, so
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: you just going to throw that stuff on the floor
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: and you making it hard for the housekeeper? You know,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the reason why she's here four days a week is
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: so to make your life easier, but you're adding on to...
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: By being lazy. By being lazy.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't... There's a balancing act, right? You want
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: to protect your children, but you don't want them to
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: develop soft. You want them to be able to take
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: care of their own problems, and you want them to
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: be able to understand the consequences of their actions. So
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: there's this, like, fine line of, like, encouragement and punishment
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: and like explaining to them how your life was different
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: and you have to appreciate this life. This is very unusual.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: You're super fortunate. But I think ultimately what they learn
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: from is how you behave. That's a giant part of
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: being a parent that people think. are totally aware of
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: until you start doing it. They understand. Whatever the fuck
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: you say is one thing. That's great. What you do
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: is what they really say. And if you're a lazy
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: fucker who's always making excuses, your kids are going to
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: not have respect for you. They're going to know real
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: early on you're kind of full of shit.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: This is the craziest thing, though. You know how hard
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: it is to put someone out on punishment and then say, hey, Pac,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: we're going to Cabo. He's like, yeah. Am I on
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: punishment if we go into Cabo?
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: You don't get your iPad for 16 hours.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: When we get to Cabo, you stay in your room
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: and overlook the ocean. And think about your consequences as you.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Order room service. Drinking Coca-Cola, eating french fries.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Lamb chops coming to the room. You're like, yo, you
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: on punishment, dude. So I can't have oysters.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: You hear the birds chirping.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And you looking at the waves. It's rough. It's a
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: certain part of success that you almost can't punish. Because
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not staying at home because you don't
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: punish me. See, my mom, it's just different. It's different.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: My mom would go in her room. and turn on
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Knotsland and the Dynasty, and I'm in my room with
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: no TV, because it was only one TV. There's a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: TV in every room. The punishment was coming here and
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: watch Falcon Crest with me. What? I don't want to
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: watch no Falcon Crest. And then you start watching Falcon Crest,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and now you love it. You're like, so when is
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: it coming on again? That's why I like M.A.S.H., You
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? I would be in trouble, and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: you're watching MASH and Bonanza, and then all of a sudden,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: you love MASH. I cried when MASH went off.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Do you remember the dude who dressed up like a
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: girl in MASH, Jamie Farr?
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: He was my neighbor.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I was your neighbor?
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow. Back in California. He lived right next door,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: two houses down.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Clinger.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: It used to be just me and him, and then
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: another guy built a house in between us. It was cool.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Very friendly guy.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Played a good character.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: That was a good show.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, MASH was a very good show. You know, and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: I said this the other day to a friend of mine.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: I said, like, I listen, I used to ride and
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: take my kids to school and listen to morning shows.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: You know, really Tom Joyner. You know, listen to Tom Joyner.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: And this is something I can listen to with my kids.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Now there's no morning shows that I can listen to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: with my children without them putting in a different element
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: that I don't want my kids to be a part of.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: You know, that's a weird thing that they cursing on
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: radio and doing all this other stuff.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they can't curse on radio still.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, they can.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Can they? They changed it?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: They'll drop a B word in a minute.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, a B word.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: But that's it. You can't, you can't use, you can't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: say fuck.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: But the rest of it, you know, my, You know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: you got daughters. You're in the car. Right, right, right.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: And you're hearing some shit. You don't want them to hear.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Like, that's a weird thing. You're like, so they go
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: to school and, you know, and they say, you watching
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the B? You're like, damn, that was the ending of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the show. Right. So now you just, we ride and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: listen to Keisha Cole. You know what I'm saying? With
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: no talk. Oh, I listen to NPR. I listen to Urban...
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: urban network you know for them to listen now they
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: got all these political questions and and you know when
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: you're five-year-old like so why aren't we voting i mean
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: oh it's because you've been listening to karen hannah is
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: it the whole time on the way to school or
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: from school so it's um it's weird how you what
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: shows would you sit down and watch with your kids
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: now You know, they had to watch the shows that
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I grew up watching. You know, you got to go back.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: You got to watch Perry Mason and Family Matters and,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: you know, The Cosby Show, you know, Different World. We
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: had to go back and watch Good Times. You know,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: we can't watch the current things, you know. So, you know,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: even with comedy, I took Hassan to a comedy show
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: with me to see some friends.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: He was 14 at the time. And we left because
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: it was no, it was nothing. The things that were
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: being said, it kind of made me go back to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: when Cosby did the story about his son going to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: see Eddie Murphy. And he's, daddy said these things. And
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I was sitting there like the, after the first, Two minutes,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, we got to get out of here.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: How old was he at the time?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: 14.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: 14. That's too young.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, man.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, the guy who's doing comedy is doing
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: comedy for adults that are drinking in a nightclub, right?
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: No, we was at an event where it was all
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: these bodybuilders. The gym, Next Level, had did a show
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: for all the people that work out there and the trainers.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, okay, this is at a ballroom. You know,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: it's probably going to be pretty cool. And I stopped in.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: You know, we sat in the back. And then it
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: went left. And I was like, hey, man, let's get
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: out of here. And he seen me. And so he's like, no,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: this ain't the same. I'm like, yeah, I'm not going
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: for a certain type of laugh. I'm not doing shock value.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: You know, so he's watched almost all the specials. You know, so...
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: it's not the same for him. You know, and he
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: knows a lot of comics. So it's not, this wasn't conducive.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, Hasan, we out. We out of here.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: He's like, but there's some comics you can go and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: you can watch their whole show. Like Marcus D. Wiley,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: he can get an understanding of at least marriage. You know,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: how marriage go to give you some fuel. But I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: think the landscape of Comedy is different for different people.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Not knocking the people who do shock value or a
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: lot of sexual content. That's their stick. And they're probably young,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: and at some point they'll grow. Hopefully they'll grow, and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: it'll be more things in life to talk about. People
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: are like, well, how do you have this many specials?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Because I have a life. I had a life before
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: that I talked about, and then I have a life,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: a current life, That, you know, I'm still experiencing things.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to talk about things that's a little
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: different because I'm living and I'm not stuck in. Sex
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: is not the number one thing. I remember when I
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: figured that I was, sex wasn't that big when I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: went to, you know, they had the thing Netflix and chill.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: And I actually wanted to watch the movie. Get your
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: hand off my leg. I'm trying to watch this movie.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So it's a thing about
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the development in this game of how you grow and
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: what you think about.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I think comedy is just one of the problems
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: with the label is that there's no genres. It's not
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: like blues comedy, rock and roll comedy, hip hop comedy,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: EDM comedy. It's just comedy. You don't know what it is.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: It's just different people's perspective on things. And there's different
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: kinds of comedy that people like. You know, some people
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: are giant Richard Pryor fans. Some people are Sam Kinison fans.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Some people are Jerry Seinfeld fans. And some people love
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Bonnie Raitt. And some people love, you know, whatever. James Brown.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: Fill in the blank. There's a lot of different styles
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: of music. And there's a lot of different styles of comedy.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: And all that I care is that you enjoy what
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: you're doing. And you're doing it because you enjoy it.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: And if you're doing that, I don't give a fuck.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what you're doing. I don't
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: care if you have props. I don't care if you
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: write signs and hold them up for the crowd. I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: don't give a shit what you're doing. I don't care
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: if you do impressions. I don't give a fuck what
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: you're doing.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: That was a huge... So when you talk about the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: scope of comedy, I can start with Carol Burnett, and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: I watched that, but the guy who I watched on
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: HBO a lot, I knew I wasn't going to do
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: that type of stand-up. That was just a whole different thing,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: but Gallagher. It was crazy to me.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Crazy.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: That was the craziest.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody wore plastic.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: They had garbage.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Bags around their necks.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Like the front, what, six rows?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just getting splattered with watermelons and pineapples and coconuts
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: and whatever the fuck he was, cabbage.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Ridiculous. But he also had some good jokes. He had
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: some solid jokes in between then. Dude did a ton
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: of specials.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: You know the craziest story, the Gallagher story, is Gallagher
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: retired and his brother took over. His brother was Gallagher 2.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: So he had a brother that kind of looked like Gallagher.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I remember that. Right? I remember Gallagher 2.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: And then somewhere down the line, Gallagher decided he wants
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: to start doing comedy again. And he's like, hey, Gallagher 2,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: the gig is up. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: I'm making money.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I'm Gallagher 2. I think there was some sort of
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: a legal dispute. Find out if that's correct. There was
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: a legal dispute between them. Gallagher's younger brother, Ron, who
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: shared a strong likeness to Leo, asked him for permission
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: to perform shows using Gallagher's trademark Sledge-O-Matic routine. Leo granted
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: his permission on the condition that Ron and his manager
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: clarified in promotional materials that this was Ron Gallagher, not
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Leo Gallagher, who was performing. Ron typically performed in venues
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: smaller than those in which Leo Gallagher performed. After several years,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Ron began promoting his act as Gallagher 2 or Gallagher
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: TOO or TWO. In some instances, Ron's act was promoted
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: in a way that left unclear the fact that he
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: was not the original Gallagher. Leo initially responded by requesting
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: only that his brother not use the sledge-o-matic routine. You
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: can't use the fucking, you can't use the sledgehammer. Ron
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: nonetheless continued to tour as Gallagher 2 using the routine.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: In August 2000, Leo sued his brother for trademark violations
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: and false advertising. The court ultimately sided with Leo and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: granted an injunction prohibiting Ron from performing any act that
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: impersonated his brother in small clubs and venues. This injunction
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: also prohibited Ron from intentionally bearing likeness to Leo.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: Imagine you can't look like your brother.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: You can't. Cut your mustache.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to change your mustache. You got to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: get rid of the beard. That's crazy. So did Gallagher
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: continue with his career? after he kicked his brother out?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Did he come back?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Was that part of it?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Does it say it there?
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: It doesn't say it.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Not specifically in this paragraph, no. When did Gallagher start
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: performing again? Put that in a search. See what it says.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Because I think he did start performing again.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he says he was rushed to the hospital after
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: performance in 2011.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Oh. So.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Okay. And what year did he sue his brother?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: 2000.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, so he did start doing comedy again. So that's it.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: So he's like, hey, motherfucker.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a special in 2007 and 2014.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't be doing that with Gallagher 2 running
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: around siphoning off of your crowd. You know, people are like, honey,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: you want to spend 50 bucks and see Leo? Or
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: do you want to spend 20 bucks and see basically
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: the same shit?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: And see Ron.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: See Ron smashing fucking cabbage.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Then you had Carrot Top.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: And imagine saying, yeah, you can perform, but you can't
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: use a sledgehammer.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I would use a mallet. What about a mallet? Can
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: I use a mallet?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: Can I use a baseball bat? Can I just have
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: someone pitch me things and I smash them into the crowd?
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: You can't own that.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: That's a different thing. I'm handing out oranges and tomatoes
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: in the audience.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Honestly, I don't give a fuck what you do
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: as long as you like what you're doing. It's like
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I love certain kinds of music that's completely opposite to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: other shit that I love. I mean, I like all
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. I don't think you should pigeonhole yourself
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: with anything.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: But I would not take my kids, especially when they're
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: really young, to see someone who's like very sexual or
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: really rowdy or really raunchy.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: You know, the caveat to this is he was in
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: the green room and they were looking right at him.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, tell me.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't know they act.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, so he didn't say, hey, bro, you got young kids?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, man. Because I would say, hey, man, tonight,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Set an event, bro.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, I would definitely do that, especially if you were
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: another comic and you brought your kids out.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah, because Juan Villarreal used to bring his kids.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Seven minutes on dick sucking. We got.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: It. Like, yo, you got to get him out of here.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: They don't need to know about all these techniques.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's weird.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is weird, but you know what I mean?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: It's like time and a place. Like, who is he
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: doing it for? I mean, they probably knew what he
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: did before they hired him. They probably wanted that. Someone's
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: a fan, which is fine, but just don't invite kids.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: And like I said, all I did was, hey, Hasan,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: let's go. And that's it. I didn't, hey, y'all should
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: have been. I'm like, man, do what you do, but
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I'm getting my kid out of here. And then you
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: get the phone call. Hey, man, why you leave? really
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: want to know why I'm leaving because you are terrorizing
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: my child so yeah you know but I definitely wouldn't
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: take my girls to like I'm like they.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Don't need to see that they don't need to see
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: that early not at all my wife got mad at
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: me when I think one of my daughters was six
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: the other one was eight I had them watch the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: movie Alien you ever see that movie Alien the original
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: movie yeah fucking terrifying and I was like this is
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: too young This is too young. I fucked up.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: You know, I think Hassan watched Annabelle when he was young.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, Annabelle's creepy.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: He was traumatized. He watched it at somebody else's house
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: with some other kids. And they were like, I guess
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: they understood. But Hassan was, it was a whole problem.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: You talking about sleeping with all the lights on in
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: the house? Like, I want all the lights on and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sleeping in your bed.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Do you ever go to that place in Vegas? It's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Haunted Museum. He has the Annabelle doll there.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah. There it is.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Which one is the one on the right?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, hell no.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: That's the real one?
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Is the one on the left the movie one?
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Interesting.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: Wow. So that Annabelle is... Both don't creepy as hell
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Well, there's something kind of extra creepy about the one
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: with eyes like a person, the left one.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: You believe in ghosts?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Yes. Really?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: Have you had experience?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: No. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I have. Let
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: me go back. Let me say that. I do believe
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: in ghosts. So my old house, where my mom stays
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: at now, there's a girl that lives there. You know,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened at this house, but it's
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: definitely a girl that lives in the house. But she
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: would only come from, like, the hallway bathroom to the kitchen.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: And I remember during the pandemic.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. You say girl. You mean a ghost.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a girl.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: She's definitely a girl. And I remember during the pandemic,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: I was in the den, and I was working on something.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: And literally... I just turned and said, so you up, huh?
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Because I could feel her. And I had to go
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: back through my family. A lot of people in my
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: family have experiences with past relatives that passed on. My
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: uncle said he saw his dad, which was my grandfather,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: in his shoes. And my mom said she saw my
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: grandfather before that died in the house that they had
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: in Mississippi. But yeah, I believe in ghosts. I believe
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: in unsettled spirits. You definitely had a girl that lived
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: in that house.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: My grandmother, the one I was telling you about before,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: she was very interesting. And she really strongly believed in ghosts.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: And there was a guy that stayed with them for
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: a while. They had an upstairs area that they weren't
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: using once the kids left. And so they rented out
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: an attic space that they had converted. I forget exactly
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: what it was. Anyway, they rented out a room to
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: this guy. wherever the circumstances were, and he died. And
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: my grandmother swore that that dude stayed in the house.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I think it's possible that if something happens to you,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: that if you're dying, it's a very traumatic experience. And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling that we don't totally understand memory.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: And we assume that memory is something that only human
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: beings have. Or that only animals have. Or that only
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: creatures have. Living creatures have. I don't think that's real.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling there may be a type of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: memory from particularly traumatic experiences that stays in a space.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: And I think this is one of the reasons why
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: they have to disclose within a certain amount of time
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: someone's been murdered in a house in a lot of
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: places before you buy it. Because people don't want to
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: live in a house that's got that energy in it.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Because I think things keep energy. I think they do.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I think there's something more to memory than just as
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: simple as, Oh, remember when we were five? I think
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: there's something else there. I think, I think that's our memory,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: but I think there's a type of memory in things.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: That's what I think.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I believe in the unseen world. So I believe in genes,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I believe in angels. So it's an unseen world.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: That's not, you know, our thing, but, That was things
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: here before us.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: I think there's things here with us.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely with us.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: And people who don't think that haven't smoked DMT.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: But I definitely believe in gin.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: You get a hold of some DMT and you're like, okay,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know shit. There's things around me all the time.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: There's things that are influencing you all the time. And
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: this is like when we talk about good energy and
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: bad energy. One of the things you experience in psychedelic
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: states is a clear recognition of good things that you've
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: done and bad things you've done. The good way of thinking,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: the good way you think about things, a positive way,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: and bad. I remember having negative thoughts in an experience once,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: and it was all these dark fractals. And then I
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: realized it was trying to show me that these dark fractals,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: these crazy patterns that I was seeing, was because of
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: my own thoughts. And then I released them, and it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: turned into beautiful geometric patterns. Over and over. And it
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: kept saying like, look at this and look at this.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, it's actually the way you
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: think changes the world around you. It has an effect.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: It might not have the ultimate effect. It might not
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: be 100% of what happens to you and in your life,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: but it has a meaningful effect. We just can't measure it.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: And there's things that are out there, whatever they are,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: they have some kind of consciousness that are around us
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: all the time. We just don't have the senses to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: take them in. Just like when you wave your hand
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: over an earthworm and it has no fucking idea you're
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: doing that. We don't have the senses to understand that
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: there's things around us. And people have been writing about
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: these things for so long to discount them all. They're
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: all liars. They're all delusional. They're all crazy.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I think that people discount them due to thinking that
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: they were on drugs. Well, they probably were.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean they're wrong.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they're wrong. You know, like a drunk
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: really don't tell a lot of lies. That's what a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: drunk does. drunk don't tell a lot of lies. I can't,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm drunk. I can't remember all that. I'm just saying
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: what it is.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: It was saying, but when you, when people like LSD,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: you know, you, you loosen it, you know, or mushrooms or,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: These things, people are like, well, you only saw that
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: because you was on this. But maybe that's the portal
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: on how you see certain things.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: I think there's certain things that we block ourselves from
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: being able to see. By our own protective instincts, we
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: protect our thoughts. I mean, this is why people, I think,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: get paranoid when they smoke weed. One of the things
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: that weed does is it dissolves all these artificial barriers
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: that you've put between you and the thoughts of real danger.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: They're all there. You realize your vulnerability. You realize... who
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: you are.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: So just think of how years ago, how weed was viewed,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: how marijuana was viewed. It was taught that marijuana is
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: a gateway drug to crack. Like, I didn't believe that. Like,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: how did that even correlate? But it's for those who
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: are trying to find an ultimate high. Maybe you just
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: smoke weed and that's all you ever did, you know?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: And you wasn't trying to find another high. I think
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: some people try to find another high, like now, man,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of these young people are on so many
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: different things at the same time. Like, what are you
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: searching for? You know, they popping pills, doing Coke, drinking lean,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: doing everything all at the same time. Like what is,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: and drinking, like what, what, what are you trying to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: escape or what are you searching for? You know, and
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: I just know people who just smoke weed and still
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: smoke joints. They don't smoke the, I know people who
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: grow their own, but they not even trusting what's going
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: on now. Now they finding fentanyl and all this marijuana,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: And pesticides, pesticides, horrible pesticides. Cause what people don't know
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: is that a giant percentage of all the drugs or
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: marijuana rather that people are buying in places where it's
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: illegal is They're growing them in national forests in California
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: and the cartel's doing it. And the cartel uses a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: bunch of pesticides and herbicides that are illegal, like real
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: toxic shit. And they find them doing it all the time.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: They find these grow ops in the forest all the
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: time because it's a misdemeanor. So because marijuana is legal
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: in the state of California, growing it is just a misdemeanor.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: So you can have a full scale grow op in,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: you know, public land out in the forest and And
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: these guys find them there all the time. A friend
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: of mine found one in a ranch that he works at.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: He followed these PVC pipes, and he realized that some
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: guy was diverting water into this little area that was
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: on Tahone Ranch, which is a big ranch outside of Bakersfield.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: But this dude that was on my podcast before, his
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: name is John Norris. He wrote a book about it.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: He was a game warden, and it turned into a
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: tactical unit. They had to get, like, dogs, like Belgian
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Malmois and shit with bulletproof vests. And they're going in
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: there having shootouts with the cartel because the cartel had
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: set up these marijuana grow-ups in the woods. And it
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: was his job to police that area. It's like, okay,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: I guess that's what we're doing now. It's a crazy story, man.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Sound like moonshine. That's why you were doing moonshine.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: And this thing moonshining developed into NASCAR. Exactly.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They had to outrun the cops. Yeah, that's what
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: NASCAR came about from. It's fun. I mean, listen, also,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: it's Al Capone. You know, it's all the mob. They
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: were all running alcohol. And there's a lot of people
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: that were connected to them. You know, some people believe
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: that JFK's dad was involved in alcohol, but that's disputed.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: But the point is, like, a lot of people were
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: making money selling alcohol, and they were all criminals, all
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: of them. And so what are you doing? Are you
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: stopping people from getting marijuana?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: Nope.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: What you're doing is you are empowering a criminal empire
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: and you're giving them an immense amount of money. And
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: they're probably going to have to kill a few people
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: because people get in the way. They're probably going to
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: have to rob a few people because people are competition.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a problem over here. We
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: got another guy growing.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: When we live in, we live in a society where
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: the bad guy is definitely romanticized.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: So how do you stop people from wanting to be
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: the bad guy when, It's so romanticized in everything.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: It's romanticized to the point where John Wick is a
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: good guy.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: John Wick is a contract killer for the Russian mob.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: He kills who knows how many fucking people, and he's
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: the good guy.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: But you got a problem with the Iceman. Right. The
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Iceman was a terrible person. He did it with poison.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: John Wick, at least, looks sexy in that suit.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: But you cannot wait for John Wick 6 to come out.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. I love those. Well, the John Wick movie, though,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: he had a reason. They killed his dog, and they
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: stole his car. They fucked up. They fucked up. They
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: stole the wrong guy's car, and they killed the wrong
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: guy's puppy. And so you're rooting for him. You're rooting
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: for him to kill all these bad Russian guys. But
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: you don't realize, like, that guy's been a contract killer
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: for the Russian mob for who knows how many dads
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: has he assassinated. How many fucking people that have families
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: that will never come home to them because of John Wick?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Yep, and sometimes, a lot of times, people don't care.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: We don't care. It's weird.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Well, we're weird. We're a weird animal. We're a weird
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: animal in a constant flux of thoughts, trying to figure
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: out what's the right way to think and the wrong
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: way to think. And people join religions for it. They'll
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: join cults for it. They'll join political movements for it.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: They just want to find a way to think that
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: makes them feel better than the way they think right now.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: You know, with the need to feel better outside of yourself,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: you know, or your family, you know, or being, you know,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: great to society. I think that's detrimental to this society
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: where I personally need to feel better, but I don't
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: want the community around me to feel better. And in
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: my mind, if everybody around you in the community feels better,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: I think it makes for a more harmonious, you know,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: environment than me just being the only one. Yeah, but
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: that's because.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: You're a wise person. The problem is there's a lot
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: of people that aren't wise and there's no one wise
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: around them. And that's, that's the real issue is that
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: there's an extreme lack of like a, a, a good
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: direction book on how to lead a solid life. You're
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: not taught at school. At school, you're taught to sit
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: down and learn some shit that you don't give a
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: fuck about learning. Memorize this. Do good on the test.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: You got to get a job. What's a job? Well,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: you got to sit there and do some shit you
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: don't want to do to get some money. And with
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: the rest of your time, you can do whatever you
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: want as long as you keep showing up every morning
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: at the same spot.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: And then that sucks. And so what do you want
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: to do? I want to escape this suck. So what
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: do I need? Cold syrup? Okay. Give me some of that.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: What do I need? Weed? Give me some of that. Adderall? Ooh,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Adderall makes me like the job. Okay. I'll take this
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: shit every day. Now I don't give a fuck. Now
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get ahead. Next thing you know, I'm
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: moving up the corporate ladder, and I'm a fucking animal, bro,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: because I'm on Adderall. You're basically on meth. You're on
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: a well-designed, slow-drip amphetamine, and you're out there fucking sleeping
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: four hours a day, getting shit done, you know, driving
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: a Jaguar.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: And this is the problem with our society. People don't
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: have a real– there's a lot of people out there
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: that don't really have a purpose. They don't have a
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: real feeling of purpose in their life. You are very
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: fortunate because you found a thing that you're really good at,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: that you love to do, and you make a great
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: living doing it. A lot of people don't have a
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: thing and they never were taught to pursue a thing
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: or they never saw anybody else do it and they
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: realized they could do it too. And then next thing
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: you know, they're married and they have kids and they're
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: in their 30s and then they're in their 40s and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: they feel like shit.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I'll ask you a question. You have a team, correct?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Team of people.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: In terms of what?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Team of people.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: Okay. Do you think your team is happy doing whatever
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: they do for the team?
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: If I didn't think that, they wouldn't be working.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. So... You don't want to be the only one
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: happy on the team.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: No, that's terrible. And you don't want to also have
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: someone on the team that is one of those people
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: that's just never happy. That's a problem, too. That's a problem, too.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: There's people to fix.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: So with, like, I produce other people's specials now. And
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: comics have hit me. Hey, man, I want you to
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: do my special. I want you to do this for
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: my special. And the hardest thing, because I'm a small company,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: The hardest thing is when I have to explain to
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: somebody why it's a no, you know, on this particular special.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: And it's not just my no. It is for other
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: people's no because I tell people and I explain this.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: If we're doing a special with you, you have to
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: get the approval of all five of us. because we
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: all five do different things. And I want... everybody who's
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: involved in your special to want to do it. Not
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: they have to do it because it's a part of
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: the company. No, I want them to want to do it.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: And I say, I'm not putting you through a process
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: that I'm not putting myself through. And I've tested this
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: team with me giving them a special that I knew
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: that wasn't special. And I'm the head. I'm like, I
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: sent it out, and we brought it back to the table,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: and it was a lot of silence at first. I'm like,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: so what are we thinking? And they was like, I
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm like, this is horrible. I'm just listening
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: to everybody's opinion on it. And they was like, I
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: don't understand the direction. I don't understand where you're going
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: with this. We're going to have to fix a lot
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: of it. And I'm just sitting there listening. And we
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: took the vote. And when we turned the vote in,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: it was five no's. And it was like, so what
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: was your take on it? I said, I knew it
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: was a no from the beginning. I just wanted to
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: make sure that y'all wasn't going to try to fluff
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: me because he's the head. We're going to say yes.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, good. So anytime we do a project,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: I put it on the table just like I put
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: anybody else's project on the table. And you got to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: get all five people. If you want me to finance,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: you got to get me. Then you got to get
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: the marketing person that's going to market. Then you got
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: to get the director. You got to get the manager.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: You got to get everybody so they can feel good
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: about pushing your project. I don't want anybody pushing a
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: project that they don't like.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: That's very smart. Yeah, so... You make it a democracy.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Smart. So you got all five of us. Then now
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: we ready. Right. And, and now I'm gonna feel good
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: about somebody coming to me and say, this is going
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: to cost this.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Cause I know they're doing it out of a man.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: This is what's going to cost. We're going to figure
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: it out. We, and I'm like, cool. But when, even
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: when I do a special man, they, it is a
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: lot of, you don't want to talk about this part. Like, No. Like,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: we should talk about this more. And it's been some
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: decisions that have been made that was... It was my
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: call at the end, but it was somebody else's idea. Like,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: with Domino Effect. It would have never been a Domino
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: Effect 2, 3, or 4 if I would have stuck
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: with the name that I started with. The name was 1983.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: So how... What was it going to be? 83?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: 86?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: It's like... And.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: I've rugged, um, which won, uh, what three Webby awards
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: rugged was, was the original name was I'm not handy.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: And Eric called me. He was like, no, we were,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I've listened to it. I watched it so many times.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: I think that we should go with this name. And he,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: he gave me the name and I sat on it
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: for a day and then I called him back. I'm like, Yeah,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: you about right.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: Well, that's good. That means you got good people.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: And I think that people should put, like right now
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: I'm on the Custom Fit tour. Well, I'm off until
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: August because I'm going to take six weeks of vacation.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: But Custom Fit is not going to be a special.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: It's just the tour that I'm doing now because the
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: specials that I'm writing are different than, I just wanted
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: to take this time to just do some material. I
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be working on a special. But the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: theme is about, people think custom fit is about clothes.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: It's not about clothes. It's about tailor-making the people around you.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: You can be a benefit to it. It can be
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: a benefit to you. Not just having these people around.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: Sometimes people have a bunch of people around that secretly
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: despise them. You know, and secretly despise their success. And
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: that's detrimental to anything. Haters. Yeah.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Sometimes haters will get real close to you, stay next
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: to you. It's a problem. I mean, when you're in
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: a position like you're in, too, when you're producing other
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: people's specials, you're going to get a bunch of people
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: that come to you that you don't want to do
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: their shit. It's just like owning the club. The same issue.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: The way I bypass that, I put all the power
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: into Adam. Adam Egott decides who's there and who's not
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: there and how the club gets scheduled and, you know,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: who passes and who doesn't. And he's really good at it.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: You know, he's really good at it. I trust him implicitly,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: so I don't have to think about it. And I
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: like it so that when people say, I want to
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: work your club, I'm like, well, you've got to talk
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: to Adam. I might be the owner, but I just
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: perform there. I don't think about it in terms of, like,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: how the scheduling is. I often have to check the
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: website to see who's there. I don't know who's there.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: You know, it might be mine, but I got a
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: guy who does it, and he does it really well.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: So why would I get involved in that? It's easier
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: than not.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: When I had a club in Houston, I couldn't be
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: funny in the club at all. Why not? Because I
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: was actively working the club. So I'm on stage, and
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about so many other things. you know going
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: on like yo did you just drop a glass on
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: the ground like I'm I didn't have enough help so.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: You gotta get the right help I got very fortunate
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: in that a lot of the people that I took
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: to Austin they were from the comedy store and they
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: were out of work so the comedy store closed because
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: the fucking stupid government of LA they wouldn't even allow
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: them to do outside shows wouldn't you couldn't do an
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: outside show in the parking lot of the comedy store
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't allow it it's so stupid They were closed
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: for like a good solid year and a half. They
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: couldn't support paying all these people. So they had to
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: get rid of them. And I moved here. And it's
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: the same time. It just, by chance, it happened at
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: the same time. And so they were all out of work.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: And I said, hey, let's get the band back together again.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Do you guys want to move to Austin? So I
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: paid for everybody to come out here and I paid
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: for them. I gave them a full. This is the shit.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 2: What a club.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: They just don't have food.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Popcorn drinks.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in food at comedy clubs either. Yeah.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: But it's just a different environment. La Jolla is like
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: very nice. Beautiful place. That club is awesome.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I love performing there. And with the store in L.A.,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: it's like you get there and it's very, it seems very.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: you know, segregated.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: This is now?
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: To me, that's when I come.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: How long ago was this?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: I just performed last week, last Wednesday.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: That's sad to hear because it wasn't like that before.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: It seemed like the main room and the room around
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: the corner and the belly, all these rooms are different
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: spaces and that's to me and I may just, it
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: may just be that feel because I'm not there a lot,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: you know, but When I come, before I came that time.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: But the management walked up, was very pleasant.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: What do you mean by different spaces? Obviously, they're different rooms.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: It seemed like the main room is different from the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: room around the corner.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: Well, it is different. But what do you mean by
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: feels different?
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: It feels a little different.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just by its design. It's a big showroom.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: It's brighter. The ceilings are taller. And then you get
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: into the original room, which is just tight and perfect.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: The original room was like, that's where you find out
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: what's real. I've seen a lot of people have rough sets.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: They were real confident going into that room. That room
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: was a truth serum.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: I like a tight room like that.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Then there's the belly room. The belly room is the
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: ultimate truth serum. Trying out new jokes in the belly
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: room is the place. It only seats 70 people. You
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: can't bullshit those people.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: That's the... Creme de la creme to me is a tight, small.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: The belly room is spectacular. Such a good room.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: I came from small audiences.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: They're the best. It's the best for finding out if
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: jokes are real. There's nothing like a small crowd. Like
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: in our club, we have the little boy. Our rooms
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: are named after the bombs they dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: And little boy is only 110 seats. It's a super
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: low ceiling.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: This is when... You know, it's those times in comedy
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: when you knew that that's what you actually love to do.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: And I remember I was in San Antonio at this
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: place called Santa's. He literally owned the whole strip, the club,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: the washroom, the corner store, everything. The guy named Santa.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that he owned it, but it was
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: like a rainstorm or something. The show got rained out.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: And it is literally three people in this room it's
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: two ladies and it's Santa and I don't know that
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: this is him at the time and we had to
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: go on to get paid the promoter was like I'm
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: not paying nobody who don't go on we still doing
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: the show I'm like okay so this is a hundred
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: dollars he's getting paid a hundred dollars and he was
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: like who going up I'm like I'm definitely going up
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm going up first like I don't I don't
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: care I did like an hour and 30 minutes for
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: three people. And I was like, because I kept looking
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: and like, anybody else going over there? No. we good.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I, and Santa, I remember he finally revealed
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: that he was the owner of the club. And he
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: was like, well, let me take you to the back.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: He took me to the back and he gave me
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: like $ 700. He was saying, for performing. He's like, yeah, man,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: you wasn't scared. And me and my friends had a
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: good time. And it was like three people. It was literally,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: the dude named Vance put the show on. It was
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: like three, Vance tell anybody, so it was like, this
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: is when I knew Ali was different. When he went out,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: three people, he went first, and he's like, I went 30.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: And he was like, and it didn't look like he
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: was coming down. I'm like, yo, bro, I'm here. This
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: is what I do. I don't, and I need that $ 100. So,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: that's definitely some extra motivation.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: It's crazy that no one else wanted to go up.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: They was like, no. And, Another time I was at Wiley,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: it was a Wiley college, and Marcus was performing and
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: the mic went out. And it's like all these people
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: in this auditorium, the same place they shot, Denzel shot
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: the movie The Great Debate. So we in this auditorium
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: and the sound goes out. And they start ribbing Marcus
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: and I was in the back. I was like, what's
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: going on? And he's like, the sound went out. And
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: I walked out. I was like, what's happening? And I said,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: hold on, Marcus. Let me ask him something. Wait a minute.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: I know damn well y'all not in there trying to
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: get somebody in a problem because y'all got us in,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: we didn't bring this sound system. Got us in fair
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: east side high before it broke in clock. And so
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I say, listen, Marcus sat down in the back. I
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, this is what we gonna do. I'm
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: gonna talk. Y'all gonna laugh. Then I'm gonna talk some more.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: But y'all can't be laughing all along because we don't
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: have no sound. I'm not supposed to use my real
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: voice in this. So, I'm at like 45, and then
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I look back at Mark, I say, hey man, you
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: wanna come back up? Mark was like, no. Like, you
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: got it? It's like an hour and 20. He's like, yo,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: Ali's nuts. I'm like, no, this is what I do,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: and I'ma figure it out.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: We did a show at the Improv once in Hollywood,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: and the power went out, and they were gonna cancel
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: the show. And we were sitting there talking, and I said,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: why don't, can we light the stage somehow? And they said, yeah,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: we can get an emergency light attached to a generator.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: And we could run the wires through the crowd and
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: put an emergency light on the stage. I go, that's that.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: We'll do that. And then we'll just do stand-up with
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: no mic. And we did the whole show with no mic.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: It was the opening, middle, and then me. I did
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: a full hour. It was amazing. Everybody had a great
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: fucking time. It felt special. It felt very unusual. You
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: got to see what it's like when you don't have
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: a microphone and you're projecting to the back of the room.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: Changed my pacing on things. But it was great. It
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: felt cool. It felt like you were doing something. And
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: the audience was into it. I go, look, we're going
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: to have fun, right? Like, fuck it. Who cares? This
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: is never going to happen again probably ever. I've been
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: doing comedy 30-something years. I've never had that happen where
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: I did a show with no microphone except that one.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: So this is the thing. These are the experiences that
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: as a comic going through the trenches that some comics
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: will never have.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Because they didn't come up that way. And you have
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: a different set of chops when you come up a
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: certain type of way. I've come up and just joking
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: had to be the craziest place because some nights you're
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: coming in and it's like, nine people, but these nine
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: people are into comedy. And Alice would be like, you
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: got to do the show. Like, it's not a, we
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: don't have a limit. We got to do these people
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: that's here. Because what, the thing is, that whole idea
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: that the show must go on regardless, regardless too.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I learned that from Paul Mooney too. And one
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: of the things that I said, I did a show
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: at the comedy store. It's like the first time that
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: Mooney ever complimented me. I was always scared of him. Because, like,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: if Mooney didn't like you, it was terrifying. Because he
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: was a legend. He was a legend. Wrote for Richard Pryor.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: And it was, like, the way he carried himself. Like,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: he didn't like you.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Like, ugh. And I was 27.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I was young and stupid. And I went
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: up because I would always go up last or late.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: I had late spots. And there was, like, 15 people
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: in the room. But I did my act. And I
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: heard in the back of the room, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: He was laughing, having fun. And then he grabbed me afterwards.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: He goes, you're a real motherfucking comic. He goes, that's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: what a real comic does. He goes, all these other motherfuckers,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: they went up there and they did, oh, where you from? Bitch,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: I know where I'm from. Tell me some fucking jokes.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Do your fucking act. And that's what you did. And
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, wow. Paul Mooney likes me.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Me and Paul had a different type of relationship.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: Did you and Paul not get along?
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: One, I have to always say, I loved Paul until
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I met him. it's like Paul was on some bullshit
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: when he when I met Paul man I was at
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: the improv and I was featuring for him and the
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: improv it got me to feature for him and I
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: was like cool I'm excited I get to meet one
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: of my idols in this game one of the people
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: who changed the course of my pacing cause it my
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: lineage just sitting down I passed through Paul so it's
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: When I first started, I was a crazy man. I
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: was all over the place. Thought that you had to
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: have all this energy. And then this guy named Dez
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: White walked into the club one night. I was there.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: And Dez stood in the same exact place. He never
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: took the mic out of the stand, put his drink
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: down on the stool, and Dez just stood there. And
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: he was destroying this room. Never took the mic out
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: of the stand. And he always said, people say, Dez. Dez,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: why you don't take the mic out of the stand?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: And he's like, because there's a stand. Let it hold
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: the mic.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: Some of my favorite comics don't take the mic out
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: of the stand. Ron White.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: Ron White just stands there with a drink on a stool,
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: sometimes with a cigar, just killing with the microphone in
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: the stand.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: Joey Diaz. Joey Diaz keeps the fucking mic in the stand.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: And he makes me laugh harder than any fucking human
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: being that's ever lived.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: That. So I'm going to finish Paul, then I'm going
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: to go to Ron.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: So what did he do, though?
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm in the green room, and at the old Empire,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: where they had a downstairs, you would come through the,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: it used to be a rainforest cafe. Right, right, right. Yeah,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: so it was spellbinders at first, and then it changed.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm sitting in the green room, and it's a
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: main part, then it's a smaller part. He walked into
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: the small part and said, hey, go count the rooms.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what? Yeah, go count the room.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't work here like that. I
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: don't count the room. And he was like, yeah, all right.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: And he walked out. And then he came back like
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: maybe 25 minutes later. Yeah, tell you and your little
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: white friend that it's packed out there and I want
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: my bonus. Like what white friend? What are you talking about? Raymond...
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Cook is the manager of the club at the time.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: He was talking about Raymond. And I was like, yo, Paul,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: I don't count the room. I'm the feature. Why would
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: I be counting the fucking room? And then he said
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: something else negative to me, and I was like, yo, Paul,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: if you say something else to me, I'm going to
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: kick your ass, Paul. I'm like, what is wrong with you?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: So I called DL. I'm like, yo, I'm about to
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: fucking beat up Paul Mooney. He's like, you can't beat
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: up Paul Mooney. He's a legend. I'm like, even if
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: you beat him up, you're still not going to win.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's going to be a loss. So I'm like, yo,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: so then another time, oh, and then later on that,
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: that same weekend, he had this lady with him and
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: she was sitting at the top and I was sitting
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: up there and she got up and she left her purse.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: So I didn't want to leave and leave the lady's
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: purse there. So I grabbed, I got the purse like this,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I came in, I'm like, Hey, ma'am, you love your purse.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: And Paul turned around like, what are you doing with
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: her purse? I said, she left it. And then the
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: only thing in my head is, D.L., you cannot beat
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: up Paul. So I just walked out. I'm like, I'm
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: going to fuck Paul up.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: What year was this?
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: This is like three years before he died. And this
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: was the old improv.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: This is what I heard, just for clarity. He was
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: struggling in the last years of his life. So you
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: probably didn't get the best version of Paul Mooney.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: So then we're here in Austin. We're performing at the
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: theater that's right next to the Paramount. It's another theater
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: that's connected to the Paramount. The black heritage, the black
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: art something, it booked both of us not knowing that
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: we had odds. So I'm in my green room, and
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: the lady comes in. Hey, she's very nice. Hey, Ali,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: Paul Mooney's next door. And you like to meet him.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm cool. And then she goes, Paul,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Ali's next door. You know, I don't know if y'all
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: want to meet each other. And Paul's like no I'm
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: cool and I went up I'm in my green room
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: and the host is on stage and Paul's getting ready
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: to go up and this was his apology he walked
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: by the room and came back like on um Purple
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Rain came back and leaned in the room and was like, hi, Ali.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, Paul's fucking nuts, man.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got to take that. There's certain people
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: that are just eccentric. That's Paul. I mean, I wouldn't
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: have counted the fucking room either. I would have been like,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: that's not my job.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Ron White, I was in Orlando. Manager Orlando called me, saying, hey, Ali,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: I know you have a feature, but Ron White would
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: like to feature for you. And I was like, I
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: don't know no person named Ron White. And she was like,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: you don't know Ron White? I'm like, wait a minute. Like,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Ron White, Ron White? I thought he was like some
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: other guy who was using his name or something. Like,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: his name happens to be Ron White, too. Like, Ron White?
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Ron White? He's like, yeah. I said, he want a
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: feature for who? He said, you. He called and asked.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, the fuck?
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: I said, hell yeah.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: So I called Marcus. I'm like, yo, Marcus, you're going
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: to go up and then you're going to bring up
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: Ron White.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: When was this?
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: This was like maybe four years ago.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: And Ron shows up in this huge tour bus. Like,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: I'm walking to the club, and I'm like, who buses this?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, shit, it's Ron's bus. It's got
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: the tequila brand on it and all that. And he's
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: in his bus. He's not even in the green room.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Then I get a knock on the door, and it's
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: his manager. He's like, hey, Ron would like to know,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: can he come in the green room? I was like, Ron,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: why can't he come in the green room? So he
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: comes in. He's like, yo, man, I love what you do.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: I just want to do some time. Ron went up
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: there and was confused. destroying this room and i couldn't
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: wait to get up because i wanted to talk about
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: fucking ron white just beat it for me and i'm
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: i destroyed his room around he sat out and watched
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: he was like you're fucking amazing like in my mind
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: is i'm still in audit ron white wanted to fucking
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: want to work with you like i was like that
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: shit was crazy.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: That's so cool Well, you know, when he's working on
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: new stuff, that's what he likes to do. He likes
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: to go around and does a lot of sets. He's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: constantly active. He's at the club tonight. We're working tonight.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: He's one of the main reasons I moved here. Ron
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: moved here before the pandemic. So I called him up
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: in like 2018. I loved having him at the store.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: So he started coming to the store around 2014-ish, something
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: like that. And, oh, my God, we had so much
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: fun for years and years. And he had a beautiful
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: place up in Beverly Hills. And then he just got
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: sick because he's always traveling. He just got sick of
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: the long flights and the traffic. And I called him up.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: I go, why'd you move to Texas? He goes, Austin's amazing.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: The food's fucking great. Everyone's nice. It's in the middle
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: of the country. If I want to fly to Florida,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: it's quick. If I want to fly to, I'm.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Like, God damn it.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: Can I live in Texas? And then the shit hit
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: the fan with COVID. And I was like, I gotta
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of California. This place sucks. They're
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: telling me what to do. This is not what I
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: signed up for. You tell me I can work. You
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: tell me I have to wear a mask.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Fuck you.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: I'm getting out of here. And when I came to Austin,
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: it was one of the main reasons why I was
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: willing to move here. I'm like, if we never do
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: comedy again, at least I can hang out with Ron.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: And then everybody else came. And then once, I mean,
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: so everybody says that I got everybody to move here.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Sort of. I got a lot of people to move here,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: but Ron got me to move here. That's the most
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: important thing. Like Ron got me to move here. And
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: then I realized how nice people are here and how
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: disconnected they are from show business. And I was like, oh,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: this is so refreshing. Everyone's just normal. My neighbor's a
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: normal guy. Everyone's normal. They're regular people. Just people living
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: their lives, having a good time. And for me, because
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: I love hunting, everyone hunts out here. It's like a
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: normal pastime. I tell people I bow hunt in California.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: Texas, we have been a gem for a long time.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: We let other people feel like they... upper echelon.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: Texas ruled forever. I mean, you've got to think, Kenneson
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: and Hicks, two of the greatest of all time, came
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: out of Houston. And when I was coming here all
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: the time, I knew it, right? So one of the
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: things that was good about doing comedy is a lot
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: of people that moved during the pandemic just wanted to
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: get out of California, but they had no idea what
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: the rest of the world was going to be like.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: They'd never been to Nashville. They'd never been to Austin.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: I'd been here a couple dozen times. I knew I
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: loved it. So I was like, look, this will be
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: all right. Like, I'll be fine. Like, it looks like
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: I'm never doing comedy again. I was like, it looks
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: like comedy's done. It looks like they're going to fucking
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: make us just stay indoors, especially in, like, blue cities. Like,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: this is crazy. You have to have a vax card
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: to eat at a restaurant in New York City. I'm like,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: this is fucking bananas. None of this shit makes any sense.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: I remember you guys came. Mothership was coming. The next
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: thing I know, Creek in the Cave was here.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: Creek in the Cave was here first.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm saying how I heard about it. I'm like, oh,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Creek in the Cave. I'm like, damn, okay. Creek in
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: the Cave is coming from New York. And then Mothership
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: is here. But they had rooms. You know, the main
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: thing was the room that was so hard to get
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: in at first. It was the Austin Comedy Club. I
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: forget the name of it.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Velveeta Room?
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: No. No, it was the actual comedy club.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: Cap City?
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: Cap City.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: Cap City.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: That place was always packed.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: I almost bought that place.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard that.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost bought that whole mall. But the guy
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: who was trying to sell it to me wanted way
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: more than it was worth. And then he got roped
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: up in some FBI investigation. I was told while it
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: was going on that he was being investigated. And I
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, okay. And then he wound up getting arrested.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: But that building was for sale. The whole thing was
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: for sale. And I went in there. I thought about
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: how many shows I'd been there, how many shows I'd
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: seen there, how many shows I'd performed there. I'm like,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: I could own this place?
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Cap City was the first place that
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: I did on the road with D.L.
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  Speaker 2: That was a great club. Fucking great club. Perfect club.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: That place was amazing. Such a fun place to work.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: I think that people didn't realize how... the rich history
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: of Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio.
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  Speaker 2: Bro, Laugh Stop in Houston, in River Oaks, one of
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: the greatest clubs of all time. Somebody told me that
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: that building still exists like that, that it's still set
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: up like that, that there's nothing in it. Is that true?
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: There's nothing in it, no.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: But it's still the same room?
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: Man, we might have to do a mothership Houston. Yeah.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: That's, yeah.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: See, if there's another city that could support like a
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: large group of talented up-and-comers. Houston's one of them.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, we have Secret Group there.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: They had the other Cap City that was upstairs. Remember
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: they opened up the second one? They closed that one
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: and opened up another one.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: You're talking about Cap City? No, Cap City.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I'm sorry. Laugh Stop.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Laugh Stop. That was the last spot.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, no. They had that already. That already existed.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: No, the Laugh Spot had went upstairs on Wall. They
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: had moved.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: I thought that was the Laugh Stop. I thought it
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: was the same group that... No, it was the same
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: group that owned the Laugh Stop in River Oaks. The
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: Laugh Spot was another place. I knew that because when
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: I was working at the Laugh Stop, Ralphie May was
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: working at the Laugh Spot. And we got together and
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: we're hanging out and eat dinner. But that was.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: That was the old spot. Then there was the other
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: laugh stop that they put upstairs. It was a new,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: but it didn't last. It was only for a couple years.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't go to that.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: It was a good spot.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: Then it went under.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: Ari Shaffir did it with a Hitler mustache once. He
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: trimmed his mustache to look like Adolf Hitler.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: Ari is, Ari is, is by far the craziest person
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: that I know. Like, I thought my Uncle Mac was
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: the craziest person, and then I met Ari. I'm like,
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: this is the craziest person that I know.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's awesome.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and... He just.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: Moved to England. I'm like, bro, they're going to stab you.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: He moved to England. They will fucking stab you. They
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: stab people there. Don't get stabbed.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: Ari is nuts, but he's such a cool dude, but
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: he's fucking nuts. I went to go see him... at
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: the Creek in the Cave when he was getting ready
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: to film his special. And I was like, yo, Ari
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: is so crazy. If people took time, just go through
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: the many looks of Ari Shaffir on the internet. The
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: one that killed me was the half. He was just
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: bald on one side, busted on the other. I was like, yo,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: is he doing two-face? He is insane.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: It's a dude face from Batman. Yeah, he's out of
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: his mind. But that's really who he is. You know,
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: he's not trying.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not trying. That's what he is.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: He's out of his mind.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: He's a fucking maniac.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: Complete maniac.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: When he tore up Burt, when I heard about him
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: tearing up Burt's check, it was like $ 25, 000. He's like, yo,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: I just made $ 25, 000. He just tore the check up.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: They'll write you another one. I'm like, are you insane?
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: He's the greatest person.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: He's fun.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: I've had some great conversations on the phone with him,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: and he's just.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: And I was very fucking smart, dude. I was very smart.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: When he called me to do the, um, his last,
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: the endless, you know, I was like, that's cool. Cause that,
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: that's where I, that's a pivoting point, a major point
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: in my career when I did, um, this is not happening. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: That was a great show, man. It was a great idea.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: I remember when he started doing it, he started doing
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: it at the lab at the improv. So you remember
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: the lab?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Another little room.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: Cool, pretty room.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: Cool little room. they should have never got rid of
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: that room. They changed that place and they fucked it up,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. That's the room, the main room's still awesome,
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: but the lab used to be in the back and
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: it was like, there wasn't a big bar there.
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's still there. It's different now. Yeah, Dion Cole,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: the last time I was there, Dion Cole.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's different. It's not the same setup. It
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: used to be you went through a door and it
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: was like another small room and in that small room,
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: it was separated from the front door. They moved the
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: front door, and now everybody went in through the parking lot, right?
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: And so they went into the lab through the parking lot.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: So the front door was back there now, and when
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: you would open it, it was all this noise from
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: the street, and they had a curtain to block off
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: the noise, and you'd hear people talk. They were, like,
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: right next to your stage where they were buying tickets.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: It was annoying. And then there was the bar, which
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: was right there. It's still a cool little small room
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: once everybody settles in, but the original setup was way better.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: And Ari started doing it there, and I was like,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: what are you doing? And he's like, I'm going to
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: do a storyteller show. I was like, what the fuck
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: is that? That's what I thought. I was like, why
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: are you doing that? And then he said, well, it
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: really helps you without like having to have like punchlines
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: and setups and have everything really tight. You could find
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: the beats in a story. And I was like, oh, well, actually,
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: that's brilliant. That's pretty fucking smart. It's a good alternative
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: sort of way to develop bits. You develop bits by
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: working it out, but in a more loose format of
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: telling a story.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that that was the premise
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: behind it, because when I got it, it was like,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: you go on and you tell a true story. And
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, that's my thing. And I
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: had just won Comedy Central's Comic to Watch in 2013.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: So you get a package, you get an album, you
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: get a half hour, and you get a chance to
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: go on one of the shows that's already on Comedy Central.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: So they was pitching me the Adam Devine show, and
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, I don't like it. And it
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: was another show. I was like, nah, I'm cool. So
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: every show that they would say that they wanted me
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: to go on, I was like, nah, that really ain't
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: my thing. So then Chase DeRusso, Young comic called me
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, listen, you might want to go on
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: This Is Not Happening. I was like, what's that? He said,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: it's a show, start on the internet. You know, I
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: went on it, I watched both, I think both seasons
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: of it on the internet. And I was like, yo,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: this is the one. So I called Anne Harris, that comic,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: I said, this is a show that I want to do.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: And Ari didn't know me. Ari was like, I don't
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: know him, but Eric Abrams is one of the co-creators
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: of the show. He's like, I know him, so he's
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: pretty good. You should bring him on. And Ari was
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: telling everybody, he's like, I didn't know what he was
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: going to do. But all I know, all you had
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: to do was tell a true story. And I was like, perfect.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: Eric thought that I was going to do the story
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: that I did on the second time that I was on.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, when I got there, I was listening
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: to people's stories, And I was like, nah, I'm going
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: to do a lighter story. Because the second story is Mitchell.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: It's like when I was going to kill his CO.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, I should do a lighter one.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: And then I did the prison ride, which is affectionately
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: known as Mexican got on boots. And Ari's like, best
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: fucking story I ever heard. Me telling the story about
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: a ride, a prison ride. And I was telling what happened.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: And I only did like 16 minutes of what happened.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: That was a whole, that was a whole ordeal. Like
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a 16 minute riot. It was like nine hours.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: Like the whole thing is like nine hours. I only
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: told the beginning part of it, which was, you know,
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: pretty cool.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: You know what happened? I already lost the show, right?
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: And so that, so when the show came back, it
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: was with Roy Woods, they called me to do it. And,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: the loyal spirit in me, I called Ari first. I
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: was like, Hey, they want me to do this show.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: I'm really not fucking with it. And he's like, no, no,
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: do it. I was like, what? He's like, I heard
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: about all the stuff. He's like, man, do it. Eric,
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: Eric is still shooting it. He was saying, so you
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: should do it because we wanted you to be the host,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 1: but they didn't, they didn't want you to do it.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: You know, they, got Roy which is cool I don't think.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: They wanted anybody affiliated with Ari to do it they
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: were punishing Ari.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: So when they asked me we should tell people why.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: So for people that don't know they Ari got a
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: deal he got an offer to do a Netflix special
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: and he wanted to do it and they wanted him
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: to do the special on Comedy Central and he said
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: well I don't have to it's not in my contract
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: they said well if you don't do it we're going
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: to cancel your show and he was like wow I
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: can't believe.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: You would do that And that ain't what you tell Ari. Nope. Nope.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 2: So we were trying to figure it out. I offered
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: to host it for free. I said, I will come
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: in and host it. I'd already done it. So I'll
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: come in, I'll host it for no money. I go,
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: because he wanted to make sure that everybody was paid.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: He was going to take out a loan and Ari
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: was going to pay all the grips, all the camera people,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: because they, you know, these people, they chart out their year.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, I'm doing, this is not happening for
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: the next six weeks. And then I'm doing this for
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: five weeks. And I'm, that's their year. And that's how
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: they budget their life. And Ari decided that he was
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: going to take out a loan to pay everybody. And
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, wow. I go, listen, man. I go, tell
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: Comedy Central that I'll host it for free. They weren't interested.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: They weren't interested in anybody affiliated with him. He offered
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: up a bunch of other comics. They weren't interested.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: So I was in that group of the bunch, because
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: I know it was you, it was Joey, me, Bert,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: and they just got me to do it. Once Ari
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: told me it was cool, he was like, man, do it.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ari would never try to stop anybody from working.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: So what I went on and did in my protest of,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: you know, you didn't want Ari, so what I did
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: was told a story about Ari. I just told her, like, okay, cool.
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: My story is Mushroom's story, which is And Ari, I
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: was like, second season I did this show, Ari gave
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: me mushrooms. And I went through the whole thing of
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: what happened when Ari gave me the mushrooms. I ate
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: the mushrooms. I didn't know that they were mushrooms, mushrooms.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: I thought they were something else. And it was like,
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: I ate an eighth of mushrooms. And it was a
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 1: long day.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: What a rude thing to not tell you to not
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: eat all of them.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: And... I remember Janice, Janice was my assistant, and I
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: remember I had to fly the next day, and I'm
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: still gone. I'm out of my shit. So I get
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: to the airport, and I call Janice. I said, Janice,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: people are going through this machine, and then I'm not
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: seeing them anymore. And it's like, he's nuts. He's gone, like.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: And Janet said, they probably going to various places. And
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, but I don't want to go to various.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: I want to go to Houston. So then when I
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: get up to the TSA and I said, hey, I'm
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of people go through this machine. And
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: then I'm not seeing them anymore. Where are they going?
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: The man said, man, various places. And I got out
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: the line. I called Jan. I said, you are right.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: They are going to various. Jan's like, he's nuts. Like,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: he's losing it. I'm like, yo, I was so toasted.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: And just getting on the plane still full of mushrooms,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: I wanted to just close my eyes. But the shit
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: just wasn't working. It was like I was out of it.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: I never. Mushrooms is a crazy thing. It's a crazy thing.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: And that same week, because I was there for a
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: couple of days, Joy Diaz gave me a black star.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: And I remember calling somebody and he was like, yo,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: don't you eat that shit. He said, if you want
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: to lose it, don't you? This is an episode of
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: I'm on Joy Diaz. This is back when I was smoking.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: I took an edible with the blind Jew and me
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: and him, it's like you literally see us. I was
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: fine at first. And then you, Joy is the only
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: person that's in this studio that's still together. And you
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: just slowly see us just melting. We both did. And
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: then I know I was speaking very good English at
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: one point. Then I was, and it was like, yeah.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: Joy was like, no. I understand. I don't understand.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: The Church of What's Happening Now had some of the
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: greatest overdose on weed moments ever in the history of
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: the internet. Just Lee. Just seeing Lee Syatt just melting.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: He can't keep his eyes open. He's just melting in
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: his chair.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: At first, I was like, yo, he's tripping. Then all
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm like... This is not happening to me. Like,
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: it was crazy.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: Joey Diaz doesn't give a fuck.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: And then... He goes, I want to see the devil.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: The other side of the story is another comic with
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: me named Billy Sorrells. He had taken some edibles, but
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: he ain't on the show. So he's outside. He didn't
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: just melt it outside. Like, he's just sitting on the
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: ground outside the studio like, yo.
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: Those black stars are 500 milligrams.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: Yo. That... Yeah.
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: I saw Joey eat two of those once. He just
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: chucked down two of them. I'm like, that is so crazy.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: That's so much. You know, Jamie doesn't feel it. Edibles
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: don't work on him. Jamie's got some weird fucking biological condition.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: Throw it at me. I'll try it. I'm not afraid.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: He doesn't give a fuck. He's not scared of edibles
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: I've done two different types of mushrooms. I didn't know
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: that there were. It's like the ones where I was
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: really on one. That's the one that R gave me.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: And then there's some other ones that made me very talkative.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: Go get Lee.
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: Drool on his shirt.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: Bro, he's in another dimension right now. He can't keep
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: the headphones on.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: He doesn't know what to do.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: Joey's the best. They're back. They're doing it again.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: They're back?
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: They're back together again.
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: Are they doing it out of New Jersey? Is that
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: what they're doing?
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: It has to be.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: He's the best.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: I remember I called Moses Malone for Joey because he's
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: a big Moses Malone fan. Before Moses died, I called him.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, you know Moses Malone? There's no fucking way
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: you know Moses Malone. I'm like, Yeah, no fucking Moses.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: Moses was nuts, too. Moses Malone was a fucking nut.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 2: Have you heard about these new mushrooms that make you
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: see little tiny people?
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. No, I haven't. The targeted ones were, like,
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: I called a lot of people on my phone, and
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: everybody's same report was, you know, you call me, like,
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: three in the morning, tell me you want to talk
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: to me about my life.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: Which ones are those? What did you take? It's not psilocybin?
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: It's something different?
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something different. It made me very talkative. D-Lay,
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: I told D-Lay about him. I don't know what that
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: would be. His comic name, D-Lay, I told him about
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 1: him because I called him and I talked to him
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: for like hours, just about. So then he ended up
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: taking the same mushrooms. He called me and I knew
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: what it was. I was like, go ahead, just talk.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: He was talking his ass off. I had put the
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: phone down and went to sleep. I woke up. He
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: was still talking. I was like, yo, this shit is crazy.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: What is it? Man, I got to.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: Jamie, put that into perplexity.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: I got to call.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: Put that into our AI sponsor and find out what
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: mushrooms make you talkative.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know who gave them to me. So I
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: call her and ask, hey, what was them shrooms that
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: you gave me? Because she went and bought them. And
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: I was a fucking talkative mess.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. I've never heard of
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 2: that before. Most of the time when people take shrooms,
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 2: they can't talk.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like, oh. No, I was on one. That's crazy.
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: I wonder what that is. Because the ones that Ari
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: gave me.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 3: It's just magic mushrooms, just in general.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 3: Some people's response to it.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it seems that there's different responses to different ones.
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying. On the screen, it says
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: what I just said.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 5: Huh.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's enough research for perplexity to have
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: an educated answer. Right? How much research are they doing
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: out there? Talkative social on magic mushrooms. but there's no
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 2: specific mushroom reliably proven to make you talkative. All right,
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: ask if there's a mushroom that makes you see little people.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's different.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: I know. I know, but I want to see what
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: perplexity has to say about it. What does perplexity say?
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: Ask it about, is there a mushroom that makes you
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 2: see little people? Let's see if it really is up
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: on its psychedelic science. I want to see what it says, though.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: It's just a question to see how it handles this. Yes.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 2: A specific edible mushroom called lanmoa asiatica has been reported
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: to cause very vivid hallucinations. You say hallucinations. Maybe they're
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 2: really little people right there. Of little people when it's undercooked,
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: a phenomenon known as Lilliputian hallucinations. So the thing is,
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: how do you know it's a hallucination? Maybe you just
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: now can see these things that people have been writing
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: about for eons. How ignorant are people and how arrogant
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 2: are we that we know everything that's going on all
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: around us all the time?
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: We don't.
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 2: People have always thought gremlins were real and gnomes were
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: real and fairies.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: Studying that since the 60s.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: Of course they have been. I'm studying it right now.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: Let's study. Let's go study mushrooms.
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been studying it. But like the real problem
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: is there's got to be a bunch of– I know
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: for sure there's other strains that are much more potent
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: because I know a guy who is a mushroom guy.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 2: He's like deep in the world of mushrooms. And he
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: was explaining to me that there's one that's like 10x
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: stronger and there's new ones that they found. I think
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: they found a new one. I want to say in
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 2: China they found a new hallucinogenic mushroom. But this one,
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: this Lilliputian one is weird because it's not psilocybin.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: So it's cooked. This has something to do with cooking it.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: Once you normally eat them raw.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: No, it's that. I think this might be the Chinese
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: one because I think it's.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: So this is I conflated the two. So they eat it.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: If you cook it and you do a real good
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: job cooking it, you don't trip. But apparently some people
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 2: have not cooked it and eaten it and go, oh,
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. What are we cooking out of this?
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: You might be cooking out whatever the mushroom is giving
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: you to let you see the spirit world or see
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: the fairy world or the gnome world or whatever it is.
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: You can get it in restaurants.
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: Let's go. I'd be like, hey, hey, hey.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: Undercook my.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: Just put it on some salad dressing. Set that shit out.
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: Let's go. I don't have a... Unfortunately, I don't have
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: a problem with mushrooms. I think that... Unfortunately?
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: Because, you know, some people are like, you shouldn't be
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: on there. I'm like... But I don't have a problem
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: with mushrooms, especially if I'm in a safe environment. But
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: being at the lows on mushrooms, that's not the best
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: place to be.
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: Also, trying to fight it. If you fight it, you're fucked.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: If you start going and you start, no, I don't
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: like this. Like, uh-oh, it's going to get dark on you.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 1: Trying to wrestle with it. I've had them in chocolates.
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: like little chocolate squares, and it's been a time. It's
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 1: been a time.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it can get rough.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: To see little people, I definitely want to be somewhere.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: I just need to be somewhere safe.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 2: Brian Simpson has a hilarious story about someone gave him
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: a mushroom chocolate bar, and he put it in his
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 2: freezer and forgot. Forgot that it was a mushroom bar,
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 2: and then just ate the whole thing and just went
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: to Pluto. He's like Dr. Manhattan sitting on Mars in
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 2: a fucking lotus position.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 5: This one's kind of strange. It says it doesn't matter
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 5: who you are or what you do, you're going to
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 5: have the same experience as everybody else who's done it.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 2: Okay. At that point in time, when do we start
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: to say maybe there's something in this substance, this compound,
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 2: this molecule that lets you interact with something that's real,
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 2: that's around you? If it's repeatable over and over and
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: over again, if all these people see the same thing
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 2: over and over and over again, And people have been
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: writing about it since the beginning of time. They've been
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: writing about elves and fairies and gnomes and magic people
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: in the woods. What do you think they were doing?
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 2: They were probably eating these fucking mushrooms.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: So it's this show that I watch that I still
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: don't know what this show is about. But I've watched,
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: I'm on season number four. And I have no idea
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: what it's called from.
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: Ah, I've been watching it. I love that show. I'm
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: in the middle of season four right now.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, he's taking Mushroom.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 2: The one guy did. Spoiler alert.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: No, but you know. But you know already.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: Big spoiler. I know, but the people that are listening
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: It's still going to be fantastic.
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 2: Don't fuck this up. It's good.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: No, it's on MG.
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: No, they're moving it.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're moving it?
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 5: One of these new shows that's been talked about is
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 5: getting moved.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. That's still on Paramount. I think it's MGM.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: I think it says MGM. Great fucking show. Very original.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: From is officially on Netflix. There it is. Oh, damn. Oh,
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: wait a minute. Hold on. Maybe it's on Netflix as well.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I was saying.
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's what it is.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 3: It came on.
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 2: It debuted on Epix.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: And then it's been moved. But you've watched all these seasons,
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: good show, but you have no idea what... There's no rules.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: And so I called my director, and I said, hey,
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: I want to make a show that is about whatever
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: we're doing. And he was like, well, give me an example.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: And I said... watch from like I've watched all I
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: cannot tell you what this show is about.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: It's like I just know that this shit is good
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: for people that don't know that want to watch it
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: it's people trapped in this town they all have the
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 2: same circumstance there's a downed tree in the road they
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 2: can't go further so they turn around and they find
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: themselves in a loop that keeps leading them.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: Through this town over and over and.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: Over and over again and no one in the town
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 2: can escape and at night time Monsters come out, and
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: they look like people. They look like a mailman. They
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: look very normal.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: That scary-ass milkman. That milkman is insane.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 2: That old lady that knocks on the window. Terrifying. It's
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 2: a terrifying show. It gives me anxiety, and I know
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 2: it's all fake.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: It's a crazy show.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: And season four is even more bizarre.
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: Everything that I be thinking I was like yo I
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: think this is what it is and then it don't
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: it doesn't be that but then it come and I'm
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: like see and I but I'm like see what like
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: what am I like I don't know the freak this
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: show is going they don't know no.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 2: One knows where it's going but it's like Lost the
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: same people that made Lost made that show word yeah
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 2: that's why it has that same sort of feel like
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: crazy doesn't make nothing nothing you can't predict what's gonna
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: happen nothing makes sense Yeah, very entertaining.
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: Lloyd tickles the shit out of me. Lloyd is mad
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: about every goddamn thing. But it's so, it's a crazy,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: it's crazy, but it's very interesting. Like, I don't miss it.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, I've been binging it. So I started,
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 2: I guess me and my wife started about a month
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 2: ago or so, and we burned through the first three seasons,
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: and now we're into the fourth. Yeah, it's good. And
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: I think the next season's coming out in 2027. But
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think the next season's the last season,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 2: unless they decide to keep it going.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 1: No. Finale.
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: It's the finale?
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 3: They just announced that it's going to be the last season.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe when that money comes rolling in. But the thing
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: about this kind of show is you can do whatever
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: you want.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: You can go back in time. You can do wild shit.
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give anything away, but there's no rules.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 2: You can make anything happen.
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: You can make anything happen.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: It's a very strange show. But it's great. Very entertaining.
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: It's a very entertaining show.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 2: But if you want to just sit at home and
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 2: watch shit and not do anything, man, you never picked
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: a better time to be alive. You could waste your
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 2: whole life just staring at a screen.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like when I ask people, because my palate for
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: what I take in is different than a lot of people.
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: And I turn people on to a show, like when
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: I turn my boy on to, Pinky Blinders. I was like, yo.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: Pinky Blinders is a great show. I was like, yo,
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: you gotta watch Pinky Blinders. He called me and was like, yo,
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: this is a great show. And I remember my boy
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: D-Lake got so invested in what was the first show?
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: The motorcycle show that I turned him on to. I
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: know what.
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: You're talking about. I never watched it. What is that show?
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: That motorcycle show that everybody liked? You know what I'm
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: talking about, Jamie?
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 1: Sons of Anarchy.
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: Sons of Anarchy. I turned him on to Sons of Anarchy.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: And it's a person on there that you kind of
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: get invested in. And I remember he called me and
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: said something about him. And I was like, yo, who,
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: like who, what, what'd you say? And I'm, I'm putting
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: on my shoes. And then I noticed, are you talking
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: about the person on the, on Sunday? He said, yeah,
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 1: that's fucked up what they did. I was like, yo, you,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: you a crazy man. He's like, no, I'm so invested.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, yo, man, you are a wild person, but,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: Sons of Anarchy, Pinky Blinders, I was big on Yellowstone,
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: and now the two spin-offs of Yellowstone, Marshalls and The
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: Dutton Ranch, I can't not watch it. It's some good
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: shows out there, and I just can't watch the typical stuff.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: I got to watch something that has a little more
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: to it than what... normal people would watch because I
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 1: like to see normal people in shows like something I
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: can relate to that doesn't ranch you know being Texas
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: this I don't how ranching is this is how I
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: always experienced how ranching goes with cows and how you
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: keep your land and all these different fights that people
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: have over land I'm like shit is pretty interesting.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: It's very interesting Taylor Sheridan's a friend of mine. The
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: guy made that. He was on here the other day
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: talking about it. But the other show that I love
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: is Landman. Same kind of deal. It's all about the
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: oil industry. You just realize, like, oh, Jesus, is this
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 2: how all this works?
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's other things happening in life, and it's way
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: more notorious people than a drug dealing show. This is, man...
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: Crude oil is a business.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: So it's such a big business, of course you're going
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 2: to get devious shit going on.
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: You're going to get shit happening. It has to. Yeah.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 2: The real world of oil must be nuts. It must
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 2: be nuts. I mean, that's why we're in war right now.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: You have to be ruthless with oil. That's a big thing.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand fake meat. Why would people be
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: giving somebody fake meat?
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: Well, because they make money selling fake meat.
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: That's why.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's what a lot of people were trying
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 2: to push while they were saying that cows are bad. Cows,
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 2: the methane, the environment, man. It's bullshit. All they're doing
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: is trying to, someone is pushing this idea that we
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 2: need to stop eating meat because they're profiting off of us.
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 3: Not eating meat.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: That's what it is.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: That's all it is. It's not bad for you. It's
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: good for you. You need it. It's protein. It's super
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 2: healthy and one of the best foods in the world
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: for you. There's just a bunch of horse shit out
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: there saying that we need to eat less meat for
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 2: the environment. No, we need to figure out how to
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: not pollute. That's for sure. But regenerative farms aren't polluting.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 2: You're full of shit. It's not true. You know, if
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: you want to say we need to stop doing factory farming, okay, maybe. Yeah,
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: that's probably a good thing to do. But you need
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: to figure out how to feed all these fucking people.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: You've developed a system that's entirely reliant on massive amounts
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: of animals moving through. The amount of chickens that people
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: eat in America... Every day is crazy. Yeah.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: It's cool.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: What are the amount of chickens that get consumed in
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: America every day? Let's guess.
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 1: 20 million. At least. At least.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say 50 million. 50 million chickens a day.
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: How many million chickens a day get killed?
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 3: That's a different question.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. How many do we eat? How many millions
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: of chickens do we eat every day in America?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know I can account for three in my.
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  Speaker 3: House.
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  Speaker 2: 22 million chickens every day, son.
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  Speaker 1: That's nuts.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: That is a crazy amount. That's way bigger than the
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: entire residence of Los Angeles. If every person was a chicken,
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  Speaker 2: we eat that amount in this country every day.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. In my home alone, if we roasting chickens,
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to get a roast chicken. We're going
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 1: to get three of them. I didn't even know that
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: I could eat a whole chicken by myself until I
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: did it. It's like, yo, man, this Muslim grocery store,
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: they sell them in there. It's already roasted. And you
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: get two garlic sauces with each chicken. And once you
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: dip a piece of that chicken in that garlic sauce,
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: it's not going to survive. It's like I bought three
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: of them because I know if two are going to
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: make it home, I have to eat this one by myself.
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: And they put it on a piece of pita bread.
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 1: It's already roasted. And it's insane that I would eat
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: a whole chicken by myself.
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 2: Estimates suggest 24 to 26 million chickens are killed every
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: day in the United States for meat. So it's a
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: So if you don't want factory farming, you got to
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: figure out a solution where you can get 26 million
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 2: chickens a day or you convince people they need to
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: stop eating meat.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: But if we look at, like, say if I'm looking
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: at a show, Game of Thrones or House of Dragons,
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: when I would see them sit down to eat, it
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: was a lot of meat on that table.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Variations of meat. It's a whole... I've never seen the
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: king sit down. It wasn't a whole entire pig on
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: the table. And then if you most people haven't bought
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: a lamb and you think that a lamb is enough.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: It depends on what you on who's there. If you
• 2:27:18
  Speaker 1: if we if it's it and it's after the fast.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: and you put a lamb on a spew, and all
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: these Muslim families come in your house, that's not enough.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: You need another lamb. You need two lambs. Like, whole lambs. Man,
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: meat is delicious.
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: It's great for you, too. Don't let anybody tell you
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: any different.
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: They can, but I'm not really listening. Like, when somebody
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: tell me about a vegan situation, I'll listen to you.
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 1: Good luck. But none of it is going. It's like,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: you know how they say, Something comes in one ear
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: and go out the other. It's not even going in
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: the ear. It's like I've already made my decision. Okay,
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: I'll hear you. But I'm not really listening to you.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: I'm eating the lamb. Go. I'm eating it.
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 2: Life eats life. It's just the factory farming thing is
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: the uncomfortable part. That's the gross part. And if you
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 2: just were on a ranch, it's natural.
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: It's natural. If you want to get overtaken, just let
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: the animals just do their thing. Chocolate. and see how many, see, see,
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 1: don't you see a, I am legend taught you that.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 1: It's like, yo, how many antlers ran through a place,
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: a stampede, like, it's a, so, even like with, with
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: the thing that happens in the ocean, sardines, right? So, mass,
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: all these mass sardines come one spot, then the whales
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 1: come first, then the sharks come, and then, then we
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: still get sardines. after all these, this ecosystem is eating,
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: we still get sardines. It's, you're not running out of natural,
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: if you let everything do its thing. You know, do
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: you know how many jellyfish it is? Somebody should start
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: eating them. You know what I mean? Because that is
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: a crazy, jellyfish can mob out. Like, mob out.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 2: And they can kill you.
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: And they can kill you.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: Somebody eat them. Something eats them.
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: You can eat them at Chinese restaurants. I've had jellyfish before.
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: Was it good?
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: I don't remember it being good. I don't remember where
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: I ate it, but I remember someone cooked a specific
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: type of jellyfish, and I was like, okay. I didn't
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: even know you could cook that.
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: In Texas and Louisiana.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 2: What kind of jellyfish are edible? Find that out.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: In Texas and Louisiana, the amount of crawfish that we
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: eat in two months is literally insane.
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: Imagine if they didn't. Imagine what crawfish would be.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: Imagine. I know I can account for at least 50
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: pounds by myself.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 5: Like, I know.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 2: Think of how many crawfish there would be if people
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: weren't eating them. Like, when I was a kid, I
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 2: grew up in Florida for a while. We lived in
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: Florida in Gainesville, and there was alligators there.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: Gainesville, Florida.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: But they were protected.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 2: Back then, the alligators were protected.
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: Like the Everglades.
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't the Everglades. Okay, hold on. Edible jellyfish.
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: Best known edible species used in Asian cuisine. Oh, boy.
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 2: Try to say that word. Ropilema. Escalentum, often referred to
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: as the Japanese edible jellyfish. That's a lot easier. Or
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: flame jellyfish. So there's a few different species of jellyfish. Anyway,
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: my point was when I was a kid, alligators were protected,
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: and they were at this lake, and you could see them,
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 2: and people would throw marshmallows in the water, and the
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: alligators would eat them. And then now there's too many. Like,
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: there's so many alligators there now. Like, they can't get
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: rid of them. They're in every body of water. Everywhere
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: you go, there's alligators.
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: The entire Everglades is filled with alligators. Golf courses filled
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: with alligators.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: I remember when that kid got eaten.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, Disney World?
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I was like, yo, that's insanity. Because I
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: don't trust a puddle of water in Florida. No.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 4: No.
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: A puddle it could be a puddle I'm like it's
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: an alligator but what they what they remove 400 some
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: odd alligators from Disney World.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 2: Oh they remove them all the time they have to
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: check every day they have to go back there and
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: make sure that there's no alligators it's.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: Like a huge number it's a huge number like maybe
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: 24 this year 40 or something this year but it's
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: 400 or something overall like that's insane.
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: You know Disney World has a bass fishing lake you
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: can go bass fishing at Disney World There's like a
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 2: little trip that you take. You go there. 414 alligators
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 2: removed from Disney World since Toddler's death 10 years ago.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of monsters. That's a lot of monsters, man.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: They're legit monsters.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 1: I remember when I was in Guam. I was in
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: Guam doing a show. And I think the military had
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: moved there and there was a bird that they were
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: trying to protect. And so they killed all these snakes.
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: And this is how when you change the ecosystem to something,
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 1: something happens. So the snakes, not only were they eating
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: that bird, but they were eating and controlling the toad population.
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: So when they got rid of the snake, we were
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: coming back from the show, and it's like it's literally
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of frogs that come out at night.
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: They everywhere. It's like you just see them flat in
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: the street because you can't miss them. It was hundreds
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: of thousands of frogs on Guam. And I was like, yo, man.
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: People fuck up everything. They got to do something, man.
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: People meddle. Yeah, they got to bring the snake back.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got to bring the snake back.
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: Stop.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: Stop your bullshit. People just meddle. I mean, there's so
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: many countries that are infested with animals that people brought
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: in to kill other animals. You know, like Australia has
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: a giant feral cat problem. They brought in feral cats,
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: I think, to kill it. I forget what species. I
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 2: think it was a toad they were trying to kill off.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: My neighborhood has a goddamn cat problem. My neighborhood is
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: like one cat has some babies. And my family has
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: something to do with it. We fed the cat and
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 1: then shit. Of course.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: You want to be nice. Meanwhile, they're killing billions of
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 2: birds every year in this country. Cats, I love cats.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: I love cats too. They kill billions. House cats kill
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: billions of birds and mammals in this country every year.
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: You don't have a bug problem if you have a
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: cat in your house. We had these water bugs. They
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: call them cockroaches. But I've watched it. Before I left,
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: the cat that's just outside, he was just slapping one around.
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: There's like five of them dead out there. He's just
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: slapping one around, just toying with him. But I don't
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: mind because then they never make it into my house.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: It's like cat's eye.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 3: You know about the four pest campaign that happened in
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 3: China in the 50s?
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 2: What did they do?
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 3: It explains it to you in just these little four.
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 2: Under Mao, aimed at exterminating rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 2: as a part of the Great Leap Forward. It was
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: framed as a public hygiene and agricultural protection drive meant
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: to reduce disease and protect grain from being eaten or contaminated.
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: Mass mobilization methods included trapping and poisoning rats, swatting flies
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: and mosquitoes, and organized efforts... to scare and kill sparrows.
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 5: Before you get to the end here, they had one
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 5: little problem, so they introduced something else to fix that problem.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 5: That created a new problem, so they introduced something else
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 5: to fix that problem. And it ended here with tens
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 5: of millions of people dying from a famine because they
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 5: didn't have the natural ecosystem to protect their rights.
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. So sparrows were targeted because they ate
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: grain seeds, but they also consumed large numbers of crop-eating insects.
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: Their near extinction caused an ecological imbalance leading to insect
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: population booms, lower crop yields, and contributing to Chinese famine,
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 2: the Great Chinese Famine, which tens of millions died. Wow.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: You got to give something to get something.
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Don't think you're smarter than nature, you dumb fuck.
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: You got to give something to get something.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: There's a balance out there, and we don't totally understand
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: that balance.
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 1: What's this fish that we have now?
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 2: Asian carp. The one that's infested all the different lakes.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: And then the snakehead, that's another one.
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: Then that torpedoes up.
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the Asian carp. They fly through the air
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 2: when you're in a boat. They just, for whatever reason,
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: when you're in a boat, they just try to throw
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: themselves onto the boat. They're like, get me the fuck
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 2: out of this lake. There's so many of them. And
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 2: they don't have a natural predator. And they bring them
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 2: into places sometimes to clean up the algae. And then
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: also now you have a carp problem. Now the carp
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 2: eat all the algae. They eat everything. Your whole lake
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 2: looks like a swimming pool. There's no algae left. Look
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 2: at these fucking things. That is crazy. That's the Illinois River.
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just hundreds of fish just flying
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: through the air everywhere they go. How nuts is that?
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 2: You ever see people, they shoot them with bows and arrows?
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: So they wait for them to hop up in the
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 2: air and they try to catch them in the air
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 2: with a bow and arrow?
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 1: With the string on it.
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of people do that.
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 2: That's a very... popular sport.
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 1: Is this fish edible?
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never heard of anybody eat... I
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 2: know people eat regular carp. I don't know if Asian...
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: Is Asian carp edible? Yep. There you go. It's lean
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: and nutritious?
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 3: It has a clean, mild flavor.
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: So I would just have a net rolling behind me.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 2: Filet-O-Fish. There you go. Don't you guys need product? There
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 2: you go. Get out there with... bows and arrows and
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 2: get it done.
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 1: How many crawfish does Texas and Louisiana consume in crawfish season?
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. I guess you would have to
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: do it in pounds, right? Would you do it in
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 2: pounds or millions of actual crawfish? Because they don't measure
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 2: them in individuals. They weigh them by weight, right?
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: Because they're kind of little. Yeah, they go by weight.
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 2: How many pounds of crawfish do you think Texas, just
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: say Texas and Louisiana in a year?
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 2: 50 million?
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: Ooh.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 5: I have to ask again, but it did give me
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 5: 90% of the farm crawfish comes from Louisiana.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: Wow. 90%.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: How many pounds?
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 3: I didn't get the answer.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 2: How many pounds does Texas... I went way too high.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 2: How many pounds does Texas and Louisiana consume in a year?
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say 2 million pounds.
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 1: No, it's got to be more.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 2: Really? 2 million pounds is a lot. It's fucking way
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 2: more than that.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 5: 70% of the consumed amount is eaten in Louisiana, and
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 5: the total is upwards of 150 million pounds. 120 to
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 5: 150 million annually.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: Just in Louisiana.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 5: 70%, which is almost 100 million pounds of that is
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 5: just in Louisiana.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Between crawfish boils and crawfish egg touffé, that is...
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: Fucking delicious. That's a thing.
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 2: That is a crazy thing.
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 3: Texas doesn't have a number. It's just tens of millions.
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 2: Well, all we need, we've got the Louisiana. I would
• 2:38:29
  Speaker 2: have thought they'd be double what the whole country ate.
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: Like, Maryland actually thinks that they are big on crab,
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 1: and we'd just be shaking our head like, okay... I
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: think we ship crab to them. The Chesapeake Bay cannot
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 1: outdo the Gulf of Mexico.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 2: Gulf of America now, by the way.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: It is. We still Gulf of Mexico. I don't think
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: Mexico agreed. I don't think they did either. This is
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: not the Gulf of America.
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: We're not saying that. That's hilarious, man. Well, hey, brother.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: It's great to talk to you again, as always. It's
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 2: always fun.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 2: Very good to do.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 2: Do it more often.
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm here.
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. Let's do it. It's always fun.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 2: Tell everybody if they want to consume all your specials.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: All of it's on YouTube. Is it?
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 1: All of it's on YouTube, but you can go to AliSadiq.com.
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 1: The new special out, My Father, is getting busy right now.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: It is a great special. It really is.
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: Where did you record this?
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: That was in Detroit.
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: Beautiful. Like I said, I love what you do. I
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 2: love the fact that you're so prolific and that you've
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 2: built this whole thing just on the hard work. So congratulations.
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Always good to see you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.