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MCMM Show with Special Guest CFL Hall of Fame QB Danny McManus · Motor City Mad Mouth

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  Speaker 1: Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of the
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  Speaker 1: Motor City Mad Mouth Show. Yes, I'm the Motor City
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  Speaker 1: mad Mouth and I'll tell you I'm gonna be I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing a little bit of reminiscenty night before I say that.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight show a sponsored by Sawgrass Cleaning Salution, and so
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much for responsing the show. Saw Grass,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you very much. Over to my right Danny McManus.
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  Speaker 1: I've interviewed a lot of Hall of famers over the years,
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  Speaker 1: and he is the latest one in a long line
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  Speaker 1: of him and I had an opportunity to catch up
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  Speaker 1: with Danny and an f AU game and it was
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  Speaker 1: just so cool one with Rod Peterson. Danny, Glad you
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  Speaker 1: have you on the show. We're gonna reminisce and then
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the hard stuff. Glad to have
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  Speaker 1: you on the Motor City mad moo Oh.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, buddy. I've been looking forward to it
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  Speaker 2: ever since we connected, and it's great to reminisce with
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  Speaker 2: you about the old days back in the late seventies,
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  Speaker 2: early eighties and looking forward and talking some football with you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, A few people realize that South Florida obviously, turn
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  Speaker 1: uf me a fertile ground for a lot of great
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  Speaker 1: young players here and back in the seventies and eighties.
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  Speaker 1: More so then you had a lot of hidden gems then,
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  Speaker 1: but you also have a lot of them now. So
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about your days playing at South Proward High School.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I remember that I used to go to
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  Speaker 1: those games. I was actually working with the hallanhell Digest
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  Speaker 1: and a Hollywood Son Taller. Let's do a little reminiscent.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what it was like over South Proward.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it was. It was an experience. I was really
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  Speaker 2: a baseball guy at first. With a coach cook at
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  Speaker 2: at South Proward High School, I didn't really think about
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  Speaker 2: playing football at all until one of my buddies, Joe Simono,
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  Speaker 2: who was playing football, said Hey, our quarterback's hurt. We
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  Speaker 2: need somebody to come out and just throw the ball
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  Speaker 2: at practice. I said, Joe, I'll come out, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to get hit. I don't want anybody hit me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a baseball guy. It just happened to be one
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  Speaker 2: of the coaches there was Phil Patton who Phil Patton
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  Speaker 2: coached my brother a number of years earlier at South
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  Speaker 2: Brown High School. So coach Patton threw me the football.
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  Speaker 2: I threw it back to him and that was the day.
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  Speaker 2: I became the quarterback in grade eleven at South Browd
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  Speaker 2: High School. So it took a while to get me
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  Speaker 2: on the field, but football has taking me to some
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  Speaker 2: great heights and I'm very pleased to be to be
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  Speaker 2: a part of it, part of the great game of football.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great team game. And you know, baseball did
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  Speaker 2: well through high school but never went any further than that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I must have watch your time in South Poward.
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  Speaker 2: It was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The best part was was coach Steve Ordisky was our coach.
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  Speaker 2: And the funny story is coming. You know, Florida State
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  Speaker 2: came down to They're getting ready to play at Miami
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  Speaker 2: and they were coming in to watch one of our linebackers,
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  Speaker 2: Jamel Ajami. They're coming in to watch him play, and
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  Speaker 2: we were playing shamanat and that game I couldn't miss.
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  Speaker 2: I mean everything I threw was right there or guys
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  Speaker 2: were taking it to the house. Ended up with over
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  Speaker 2: four hundred yards throwing and six touchdowns. So I got
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  Speaker 2: on the radar of Florida State and it kind of
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  Speaker 2: worked out that. All through the recruiting process of South Broward,
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  Speaker 2: it was different coaches coming down. Coach Mike Cruze came
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  Speaker 2: down in South Proward, so a lot of my friends
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  Speaker 2: and I thought that was pretty cool. Coach Bowden came down.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Bowden came down with Burt Reynolds to my house
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  Speaker 2: to visit my mom for a house visit. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was something we never thought was ever gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: But the time at South Broward being a Bulldog and
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  Speaker 2: playing football and baseball was a lot of fun. And
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  Speaker 2: I still got lifelong friends that I communicate with all
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  Speaker 2: the time. We have little reunions at different guys or
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  Speaker 2: different girls house and just reminisce about some of the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that we used to do with South Proward. It
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  Speaker 2: was definitely a great experience.
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  Speaker 1: I remember covering high school basketball MAC then pretty interesting,
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  Speaker 1: but I covered the Miami Hurricanes a lot. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I worked with Howard Snoelberger, never worked with Jimmy Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: but just to be part of Hurricanes football, and then
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  Speaker 1: take that on top of the fact they placed Florida
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  Speaker 1: State every year, you realize what a great in state
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  Speaker 1: rivalry that they really are. So let's continue. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and talk about your college days, because you did
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  Speaker 1: a good job transitioning over to the GMTA part of
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  Speaker 1: the program Great minds think alike. Okay, and that being
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  Speaker 1: FSU you played for a Bobby Bolton. What was that? Like?
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  Speaker 1: I know in nineteen eighty eight, you became a fit,
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  Speaker 1: he asked the Bowl MVP. So let's talk about playing
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  Speaker 1: for coach Bouten.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Bowden was outstanding. He's the one that molded me
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  Speaker 2: the most at the quarterback position, just because he had
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  Speaker 2: played the position before. And what everybody sees on TV
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  Speaker 2: when he was coaching is exactly how he was at practice.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted the best for his players. He was a
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  Speaker 2: father figure for us. I mean he directed us in
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  Speaker 2: the right line. If we got out of line, he
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  Speaker 2: moved us back into line. But just to be in
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  Speaker 2: his presence was awesome. I mean just to hear him
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  Speaker 2: speak just as here, you know, think about how his
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  Speaker 2: mind works. And I got a chance more than the
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  Speaker 2: other players because he was actually one of our He
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  Speaker 2: was our quarterback coach for the longest time because when
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  Speaker 2: I first got there, Mark Rick, who was at the
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  Speaker 2: University of Miami was our graduate assistant coach, so Coach
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  Speaker 2: Bowden was teaching him the ins and outs of being
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback coach. And then coach Rick could have moved
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  Speaker 2: on with the East Carolina for a year, then came
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  Speaker 2: back my senior year at Florida State and just messed
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  Speaker 2: real well. I mean it was a lot of fun
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  Speaker 2: at Florida State. As you remember, I mean Coach Bollden
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  Speaker 2: loved to throw the football. He liked to get the
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  Speaker 2: ball up in the air. And just having him having
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  Speaker 2: the confidence in me to be able to go out
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  Speaker 2: there and run the ball club the way he wanted
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  Speaker 2: it to run and he had that confidence of me
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  Speaker 2: to get it done each week was a blessing there.
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  Speaker 2: So I owe a lot to that man. That man
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  Speaker 2: taught me a lot because he just taught me not
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  Speaker 2: only the game of football, but the game of life
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: I got to know Bobby about one of the nicest
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  Speaker 1: people ever meet. Yes, you taught I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of college coaches have personality, and he was definitely one
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  Speaker 1: of them. You could go over the years, I could
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  Speaker 1: do a show talking about college football personalities. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: probably doing basketball, but I've done more of my work
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  Speaker 1: with college. Well, Josh, forget your question just a moment. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: from there, lorda State, you went over to the Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City chief You were drafted in nineteen eighty eight. Back
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  Speaker 1: then they had a lot of rounds. You were drafting
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  Speaker 1: round eleven, picked two eighty two. Let's talk about your
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  Speaker 1: experience with the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: It was a different experience. Now. I've never thought I
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  Speaker 2: was going to get drafted. I was actually out playing
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  Speaker 2: stickball at our dorm at Florida State at Burt Reynolds Hall,
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  Speaker 2: and my roommate said, I had a phone call and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know who it was, and then the person
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  Speaker 2: just on the other line said, hey, we just drafted you.
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  Speaker 2: I said, Okay, who is this? Who's making fun of
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  Speaker 2: me here? I mean, who's pulling on my leg? But
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  Speaker 2: it was the Kansas City Chiefs, and there was a
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  Speaker 2: great opportunity to go out there. I got to learn
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  Speaker 2: from behind some great quarterbacks and Bill Kinney and Steve
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  Speaker 2: de Berg. Steve de Berg took me under his wing
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, showed me how to watch film, showed
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  Speaker 2: me how to ask questions and meetings, and how to
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  Speaker 2: write up a game plan. And that's where I learned
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  Speaker 2: a lot of my quarterbacking skills on what to do
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  Speaker 2: at meetings and different stuff like that, and spent a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time with those guys on the road. My
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  Speaker 2: job was to write down all the plays on the
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  Speaker 2: clipboard and then I'd be able to go back and
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  Speaker 2: i'd break up the film for those two guys before
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  Speaker 2: they came in to watch the replay of the game.
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  Speaker 2: But it gave me a lot of experience against around
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  Speaker 2: those two guys who were I think there were both
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  Speaker 2: seventeen or fifteen year veterans in the NFL, and just
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  Speaker 2: showed me what it took to be a quarterback on
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  Speaker 2: a weekly basis.
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  Speaker 1: We subsequently were released by I believe Marty Schottenheimer.
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  Speaker 2: Is that correct, That's correct, Yeah, Marty came in. Frank
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  Speaker 2: Ganz was the coach that I stayed there with for
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  Speaker 2: one year, and I thought for sure I'd get a
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  Speaker 2: couple more years with coach gans but we had a
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  Speaker 2: change at the general manager spot, and then Marty Schottenheimer
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  Speaker 2: came in with his quarterbacks, and at that time they
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  Speaker 2: drafted one as well out of Wake Forest, so we
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  Speaker 2: had too many guys and I was the loan guy
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  Speaker 2: that they didn't know, so that they got rid of me,
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  Speaker 2: and then I ended up going up to Winnipeg of
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  Speaker 2: the Canadian Football League.
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  Speaker 1: Great lead into Josh's question, what's one thing about CFL
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that an average stand would absolutely never gas? Great question.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's called a thinking man's question.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a great questions. I think one of
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  Speaker 2: the things is that you got to understand we only
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  Speaker 2: play three downs, so the CFL quarterback's got to be
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  Speaker 2: very accurate with the football. We're already behind the sticks.
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  Speaker 2: In the NFL you get four downs to get a
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  Speaker 2: first down, and the CFL you only have three. So
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  Speaker 2: you got to make sure that your positive yards on
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  Speaker 2: your first intent. And then when when you're with the
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  Speaker 2: football and you're looking downfield, you got to make sure
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you got to hold onto a little longer, but
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  Speaker 2: you've got to make sure that you give your receiver
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  Speaker 2: some time to get to the first down markers and
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  Speaker 2: things like that. But the biggest thing that a CFL
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  Speaker 2: quarterback has to be is super accurate. I mean NFL
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  Speaker 2: guys are very accurate as well, but you know, you
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  Speaker 2: got to be a precision there where you're going with
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  Speaker 2: the football and have the guts to stand in that
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  Speaker 2: pocket for that little extra half second because you know
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  Speaker 2: you're going to get blasted, but you know your receiver
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  Speaker 2: is going to get open just a little bit longer.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's watch your transition from American football
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  Speaker 1: to the CFL. After we get told that, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: go to a station break. But once you get that in,
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  Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about your great Cup and a
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  Speaker 1: few other things. So transition from American football knowing college
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  Speaker 1: slash NFL to Innadian Football League.
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  Speaker 2: It was a little different. The fields wider. You go
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  Speaker 2: in sixty five yards instead of fifty three, and it's longer.
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  Speaker 2: It's one hundred and ten yards from goal line to
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  Speaker 2: goal line. And then the interesting part that people don't
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  Speaker 2: realize is that the end zones are twenty yards deep
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  Speaker 2: instead of ten. So it's definitely it's a game that's
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  Speaker 2: more for passing. You're going to throw the ball around
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  Speaker 2: the park. That's what I enjoy as a quarterback. You're
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  Speaker 2: playing with twelve guys instead of eleven. So for me
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive side, it's more like having two strong
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  Speaker 2: safeties on both sides, and you got to watch all
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  Speaker 2: those guys coming from different areas. But on the advantages
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  Speaker 2: you have five, sometimes six receivers going out on a route.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like playing street ball down the street with
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  Speaker 2: your buddies and just drawing stuff up in the dirt
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  Speaker 2: and you know, just putting it together and see how
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  Speaker 2: it goes. But it was a transition. It took a
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  Speaker 2: while before started playing. It was a good two or
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  Speaker 2: three years before I started playing steady at the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 2: But you had to learn all the different things that
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  Speaker 2: happened with the motion. All guys that are off the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage can motion left or right, or they
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  Speaker 2: can motion towards the line of scrimmage, which only in
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  Speaker 2: the NFL you can only go up and down the
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  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. So it's a little different, but it's
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  Speaker 2: fun to watch. I encourage people to watch it. It's
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  Speaker 2: down here. They played on the States quite a bit,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's one of those games where people
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  Speaker 2: look at it it's going to be weird at first,
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  Speaker 2: but once you look at it and see how all
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  Speaker 2: the scoring goes, you do definitely enjoy it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, before I go to a strange and break, I
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  Speaker 1: know Warren Moon did a great job, but he was
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  Speaker 1: not drafted at all, using these CFL as a stepping
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  Speaker 1: stone and subsequently landed in the NFL. But the guy
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about in particular Danny is Johnny Manziel.
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  Speaker 1: If there was ever a guy who I thought could
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  Speaker 1: have benefited from a wider field, it would have been
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel because he got a great arm, he really does,
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  Speaker 1: and he can run. Why do you think Johnny Manziel
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  Speaker 1: was not able to make it in the CFL.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he did. He did a good job. When he
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  Speaker 2: first came up there, he was, you know, using exactly
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  Speaker 2: what you said his athletic ability and his arm strength
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  Speaker 2: and going different, you know, throwing the ball all over
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  Speaker 2: the place. And then he got running a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more than what I, you know, would say CFL quarterback
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  Speaker 2: would do, and he took a couple of things into
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  Speaker 2: the head. So guys started to get some marks on him,
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  Speaker 2: started to get some hits on him. And then it's
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  Speaker 2: just a matter of adapting to that. Now, you got
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  Speaker 2: to adapt to the quarterback game of staying in the
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  Speaker 2: pocket as long as you can, like I said, before
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  Speaker 2: making the right throws and you know, Johnny was ready
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  Speaker 2: to run. I mean, I don't know how. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if he stayed long enough in the pocket to
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  Speaker 2: let the route come together. But he was anxious to
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  Speaker 2: get on the outside. And and usually that happens with
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  Speaker 2: some smaller quarterbacks like myself. We want to get on
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  Speaker 2: the outside quickly so we can see. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that was just his issue there. And then you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that Johnny wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't available in the CFL. You know, he is,
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  Speaker 2: he's a he's of character, but he's a good athlete
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  Speaker 2: and he just wasn't getting his field there in the
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  Speaker 2: in the CFL. That moved on to other pastures.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm glad you're here. Pender're gonna get your
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Candy. All right, let's go to Panther. What
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  Speaker 1: did was it like to play more defense or offense?
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  Speaker 1: Referring to the differences in the league as well as
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  Speaker 1: the CFL.
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  Speaker 2: Like the differences in in our game. Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 2: like if I think, I think I'm always an offensive guy.
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  Speaker 2: I like that, you know, doing trying to scheme up
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  Speaker 2: some routes and stuff to go against defenses. One of
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  Speaker 2: the big things is is you know, defenses want to
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  Speaker 2: come pressure you, so they're gonna try to break one
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  Speaker 2: extra guy to come at you and and get and
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  Speaker 2: make you get rid of the football a little bit earlier.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm always I'm always on the offensive side. Defense
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  Speaker 2: is very tough. I mean, that's all these guys, like
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  Speaker 2: I said in motion, all these guys running around sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with the different sets. I'd hate to be
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  Speaker 2: on the defensive side, you know, in the CFL game,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, I like the offensive side trying to scheme
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  Speaker 2: up some stuff to get the kissing points on the board.
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  Speaker 1: Another question from Jay, how much is the NFL level
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  Speaker 1: up from college one.
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  Speaker 2: He says, Oh, the NFL moving up is all the
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  Speaker 2: guys are good. I mean when you're in college and
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  Speaker 2: then you go to the NFL. It's it's a speed factor.
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  Speaker 2: You know, everybody's a good athlete in the NFL. It's
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  Speaker 2: just how fast the game is now, right, So I
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  Speaker 2: vote the first thing I noticed in going to Kansas
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  Speaker 2: City then and that was like that. That was nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty eight. The guys now are bigger and faster. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm back in eighty eight. I had to throw the
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: ball when the receiver was covered, anticipating what open spot
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: he was going to get to. If I waited for
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: him to get open, that ball wasn't going to get there.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: That window was going to close. So it's more of
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: the speed factor going from it. But I would say
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: college guys when I played against them, I mean, playing
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: against the Hurricanes was like playing against an NFL team.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Playing against the Gators was like playing against an NFL team.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: All the guys were fast. I mean, that's that's going
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to be the aspect, but up in the in the NFL,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: it is it's even faster. The windows open and close
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: a lot quicker, and I mean it's it's definitely one
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: hundred percent I mean one hundred percent faster than what
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: you got in college. There's no doubt. But everybody's good
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: in college. Now everybody's really good players are in the NFL,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: and that's what makes a difference.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Let's go to a follow question, how much the level
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: is the CFL over college. I know we talk about
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: the NFL, so let's go back to the difference between
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: those two leagues.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think looking at the CFLs it's a brand
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: of game that's basically based on size. We're not gonna
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: we have our guys got to be able to run,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: so we're not going to have the three hundred pound
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: defensive line when we're going to have the two eighties,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the two eighty five guys that can move up and
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: down the line of scrimmage. The offensive lineman won't be
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the big guys that you see in college. Are going
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to be more of the finesse guys. Receivers are going
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: to be scat guys. They're gonna be the five eights,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighties that can run, that can do
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: some things that maybe the NFL guys are looking for
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the big, tall receivers, the bigger guys and doing it
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: that way. So with the two downs that we have
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: to get a first down, you know, third down, you
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: got to get guys that can make people miss in space.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: And that's a big factor in the CFL that you
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: always want to be trying to get ahead of the chain.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: So first down, you got to get five yards, sack
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: it down, you get what you can to get the
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: first down. But if you get if you don't get
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: any yards on first down, you are so far behind
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: the chains. The defense is playing different games with you,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: and you got to be ready for uplits. You got
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to be ready for anything. But when you do that,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: you want to get it out to your guys so
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: they can make one guy miss and then they'll get
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the first down for it. But it's a big fight.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: It's definitely it's a level up. I mean, there's a
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: lot of college guys that could not play a game
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: just based on their size and what they're able to do.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: And even in the NFL, there's a lot of guys
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that would not be able to play the CFL game
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: based just merely on size.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Interesting well Blows actually has a pretty good question that
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: may be close to what you're saying, but we'll get
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: it up there and let you evaluate that and then
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: you can answer a throw you see fit Danny Philip.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Viewers that are not familiar with the CFL, what are
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the biggest differences between the CFL and NFL. That's a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: fair question a lot of people do ask me.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mentioned before, there's twelve guys instead of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: eleven on each side. The field dimensions are wider and longer. Also,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the special teams is that big game in the CFL.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: It's very a very big part of having guys that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: want to play on special teams. We only have a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: forty five man roster. The big difference is there are
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: no fair catches on punts. We're encouraging returns. There's a
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: five yard halo that is supposed to be around the returner.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Anybody that gets inside that five yard halo it's a penalty.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: But we want to get returns going, so we try
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: to encourage that. Our kickoffs are you know, like what
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: kickoffs were or you know, normally not like what they
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: are now in the NFL. Same way, we want to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: encourage kickoffs. The guys don't kick them into the end zone.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: If you do get a kickoff into the end zone
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and you don't bring it out, it's called a rouge. Now,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: a rouge is a single point. If you don't bring
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: the ball out, the kicking team gets a single point.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: So there's a difference there. If you do bring it out,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: you bring it out, you get it out to where
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you want to get it to. There are no touchbacks
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: on kickoffs, you're giving up a single point. But I mean,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: that's why we want these guys to catch the ball
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and get out of the end zone and bring a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: ball and bring it out for a return. Those are
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the big two differences outside of the number of guys
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: that we play with. But scoring is big. We encourage
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of scoring, a lot of throwing on the football.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's a fun game to watch. And
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: you need somebody that knows the CFL the first time
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: that you watch it, just so you get the ins
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and outs. But it's a great game. A lot of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: things are happening, a lot of movement, you know, like
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I said before, the motion guys can move all over
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the place. It's it's a little weird. If you're just
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: traditional NFL guy, you'll see something weird about this, right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: One Five great cups, three as a player and two
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: as an administrator. What was that like?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's that's the main goal that anything you play.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you want to be a champion, and it's
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: fun to be the last team standing there holding on
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to a trophy that's over now, I think over one
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen years old. It's the oldest trophy in
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: North America. So it's it's one of those things that
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it's great to be a part of a winning team
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and know that you put in the work. Just like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: in any other organization, other sport. Uh, the goal is
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: to be the champion, to be the last one standing,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: and to have all those guys come together and bounce
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: through every snap, every practice, and to know what the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: goal is is to win a championship and to do
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: it more than once. It's fun. I mean, the first
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: one is exciting, the second one is okay, I know
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: we're going to get that. But now to get to five,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you know, that's that's it's a challenge each and every year.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: But it's the same satisfaction at the end. I mean,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you get to drink some beer out of the cup,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you get to have some fun. It's a it's a
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it's a great time and it's a great accomplishment by
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: everybody involved.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Describe the differences though, between winning one as a player
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: as well as an administrator.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Well as the player, you're more involved in it. You're
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of you know, you're out there, you're
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: you're going through the sweating tiers. As administration, I do
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: most of my job this time of the year, from
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: December to training camp. I'm out looking for ball players
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: to come up to Winnipeg and trying to get a
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: team together so our coaches can get them ready for
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: the season, and trying to win a great cup. But administration,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: winning it's nice. You're in the press box, you're eating
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the good press box food, you're you know, you're sitting there,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: there's no real pressure on you. And then when you win,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you go down and have fun. But unfortunately we've lost
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the last three We've been to five in a row
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: here and we won the first two back to back,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and then the last three years we've lost them. We
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: want to get back there for the sixth time in
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: a row and change that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind, folks Man assistant general manager for
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. So great stuff, all right, So
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: let's you're the third player in CFL history to each
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand yards to be specific, fifty three thousand, two
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five as as obviously Robert Wardell talks
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: about your third all time, and you've did a lot
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of your good work with the Tiger Cats. How much
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: prime do you take in being able to nasce that
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: many yards in that league?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's longevity. Being in the league for
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: a long time is really dependent on the five guys
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: in front of you that are past protecting and you're
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: running back. That's your backside. And to have some great
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: receivers to play with. I got the opportunity to play
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: with Darren Flutey, who is Doug Flutie's brother, for ten years, right,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and to have him as a receiver is more him
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: have been almost like another quarterback on the field. He
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: was able to read defenses and he helped me out
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: quite a bit in getting into the areas, the open areas.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: It's kind of another quarterback out there so he knows
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: what where to be and where the ball is going
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: to come. But it's the guys around you, just guy,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I mean everybody. When you talk about championships, it's the
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: guys around you. It's when you talk about number of
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: yards you've thrown for it, it's the guys around you.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Because we had a locker room. When our players realize
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that it's their team and that you're playing for the
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: guy standing next to you or the guy that's dressing
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: next to you and in your locker room, and you
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: get the whole thing. Championships come. It's just getting to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that point for the belief factor the players to understand that, dudes,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: this is your team. It's not the coaches team, it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: not the owner's team. It's your team. This team of
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: go as far as as the players in the locker
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: room will take it. But first they got to realize
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: they got to play for each other. Now for the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: name on the front or the name on the back,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you got to play for each other.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: So do you have any regrets at all by not
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: going back to the NFL. I know some guys, as
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I alluded to with Warren move go up there and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: then they say, got a.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, there was some time. There's some talking about
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: back down to the NFL. My brother gave me great advice,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: you know. He says he could be a big fish
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: in a small pond, or a small fish and a
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: big pond. And I just started playing in the in
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: the NFL, being the starter, and that's when a lot
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: of talks came about we're coming back down to the NFL.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But when you're five foot eleven and three quarters, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in the mid nineties, and all quarterbacks in the NFL
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: are like six three six four, you're better off being
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: where you are. And I enjoyed playing. I enjoyed the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: people of Canada. The fans are great, and there's a
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: great opportunity for me just to play football and have
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: fun out there with a bunch of guys and go
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: after championships like we did.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Great questions on the chat when we're going to get
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to them? Now, Bensland Sports, we have a chance to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: play defense in the CFL. What do you have.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Defense wise? I probably wouldn't, like I said before, when
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: they went to South Broward and they made me the quarterback,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to get hit my whole career. I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: didn't want to get hit, so I don't know if
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: baseball helped me develop a quick release. But as soon
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: as I saw people coming near me, I wanted to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: get rid of the football. And my receivers knew that,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: and they got opened a lot faster than maybe what
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: they do for other quarterbacks. But that ball was coming
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: no matter what. I was not gonna sit there and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: take a shot if I didn't have to.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Joshuah Door, Doozy, I like this one. Any of your
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: career was filled with great moments. But what single play
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: or leadership moment from your time on the field are
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: you the most proud of that might not be reflected
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in the mod score. Joshua Door is getting better. Keep
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it up, mister Dorr.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: All right, NIKEE question. Yes, there's there are a few.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I love this question.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: That's great. There are a few. There was one when
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I went to Hamilton in nineteen ninety eight, and it
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: goes back in nineteen ninety seven. That team went two
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: and sixteen, So we go in ninety eight, we go
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to the Great Cup. We lose to Calgary, So we
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: turned things around pretty quick. We did finish the Cinderella story.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Like we wanted to. But ninety nine we got to
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: go back again and this time we had we played
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Calgary again. This time we beat them. And there's a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: lot of guys that were on that two and sixteen
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: team from nineteen ninety seven with the Hamilton tier Cats,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and they got a chance to not be the laughing
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: stock of the league anymore. They got a chance to
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: get up on the stage, hold the championship trophy and
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: show it to all the people out there that made
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: fun of them two years ago. I didn't go up
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: on the stage. I stayed on the field and watched
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: those guys because they deserved it more. They went through
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: some tough times there, and what we were able to
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: do is all come together as a group, turn things
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: around pretty quickly at Hamilton and give them a championship
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: so they can show it off to their friends, their family,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: but also the naysayers that were coming after when they
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: were went two and sixteen.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Had been great comparison. You were awesome, pocket passy compared
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: to Joe Montana. Have you ever been compared to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: No that that's a great comparison and I appreciate that,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if it's a comparison from Joe's eyes. Uh.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: You know, through the playing football, you get a chance
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to meet a lot of people and you know a
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: lot of knowledge that I said, I got from Steve
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: de Berg on how to play football. I got a
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: chance to be with Ron Jaworski on that year they
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I got cut by Kansas City, and he gave me
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: great advice as well. He said, hey, there's not a
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: string on the end of the football. When you let
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: go of it, let it go, don't pull it back.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: And I remember doing that all through my career. Just
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: remember what what Josh said is is, hey, when you
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: when you see it, trigger it, let it go, don't
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: don't don't hold back. And those are the little things
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you hear from guys and you and you look around
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and you say, well, you know, I don't think I'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: thinking about that all the time, but it's it's in there.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: It's it's in my mind. And you know, I could
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I can see you know Ron, you know, in a
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks at the Super Bowl, he did him
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and Dick could do a cigar thing out there. If
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I wanted to get out there and go see him,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it'd be like we just were together the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: other day. I mean, he said, he's that you could do.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Stay with Steve every once in a while, running to
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: him up at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers training camp. So
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's a little like community. It's a little fraternity of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: guys that played the position at quarterback no matter what
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: league you've been in, and you know, guys give give
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: out advice to everybody. I still give advice to our
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks and I give advice to anybody that would listen
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: to the play of the quarterback position.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I actually met Ron Jeworski super Bowl three three. I've
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: covered four Super Bowls and I met him and we
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: spent some time. Great football line. But when you see
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: him the next time, okay, I want you to go ahead,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: and this is your assignment, okay, because because you went
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to school, Okay, I remember when he was playing ball
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: back with the Eagles and the Rams. He was called
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the Polish Rifle.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: You remember that memory, okay, yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and asking what it was like to
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: be called the Polish rifle because this guy handled the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: best arms I've ever seen in my years watching football.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I go back, listen, I'll be
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: sixty two in about less than two and a half weeks.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of football on my day. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you talk about press boys, I've lived in that thing
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for l forty five some odd years. So Polish rifle people.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: That's what John ron Jaworski's name was back in the day.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: There's your homework. You know, you and I got to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: see each other. That's a given. All right. Back to
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the chat rooms, Pat room's on fire and I love it, okay,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Josh gor while those questions are so Josha. When you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: put your mind to it, pal Okay, that's what happens.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You'll get all the praise you want because you're come
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: up from great ones and we'll go back to them, okay, Josh,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: who are the most influent tool members in your life,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and we're the most valuable piece of advice you received
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: from them. As it's still resonates with you.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Well, it's coach Bob. I mean, it's easily. That's a
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: that's an easy one. That's the one that I live
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: by pretty much all the time now. Is when he
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: told me, he said, in the huddle, you got ten
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: set of eyes looking at you that are focused on
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you and the way you say the play the way
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: however your banners are. They're going to see if you
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: have confidence in the play. So when I try to
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: talk to people, I make sure I look them in
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the eye. I make sure they understand that I'm focusing
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: on them, that they understand that they're the most important
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: thing that's right there. I'm not thinking of anything else
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and not looking over your shoulder. I'm not doing that.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So I try to resonate with everybody that I'm looking
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: at you. I'm paying attention to you because there's nothing
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: else out there that I want to do except to
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: understand what youre asking me, what you're telling me, and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: have a conversation. So I and Coach Bounce said, that'll
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: be a valuable lesson for you in life, because once
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you get out of the huddle, people still watch. Everybody's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: gonna watch you no matter what. No matter what you do,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: whether you know you're successful in football or if you're
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: successful in business, people are going to watch what you do,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: how you handling yourself. So I always make sure I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: try to handle myself in the way that he wanted
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: us to.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And in sports in high school, you did punt returner.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't really enjoy it. No I was. I
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: purposely didn't try to catch the ball too many times.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I always let it hit the ground and then would
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: kneel on it. But I never wanted to get any
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: returns again, going back to the same deal as being
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to get hit so but I didn't
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: want to fumble either and put our team in a
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: bad spot.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll tell you. I'm looking at the shat. I'm
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: having a lot of fun. Oh, this participation of getting
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: on there. Scott, thanks for asking fantastake for the answer.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So you have to really anticipate what will happen. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: never thought of it that CFL is a smaller set
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: of players.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just the smaller body types, you know. Just our
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: guys got to be a little bit quicker. They gotta
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: be a lot better shaped too. We only have a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: forty five man roster, all right, so it's not the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: fifty three that the NFL has. So you're you're down
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: a couple of backups. Some of your starters have to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: be on special teams as well. So we eighteen games
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: instead of now I think the NFL is playing seventeen.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So the guys got to be in real good shape
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: to get through a whole season and be ready to
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: make some adjustments. Sometimes you got to play some different
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: positions just because the roster wise, you got to be
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: able to do that. But our guys, the biggest thing
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: is speed. We got to have guys that can run.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Of course, you want the guys that can block, that
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: can rush the passer. But other than that, it's the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: special teams guys, and then the guys in the secondary
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and the receiving corps got to be able to run
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and get downfield and a hurry.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Another good woman, chat Rowell, put them up as we go.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Number of players, field dimension, the number of downds, lower rosters,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: no fair ketches on the yard. Some players tend to
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: be smaller, quicker. What do you agree with that?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Definitely agree with it. You just because there's a lot
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: of space, and you know, I've always in the last
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: couple of years mentioned that the NFL would be good
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: just to expand their field a little bit, because the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: guys are getting bigger and faster now in the NFL.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: If they expanded out to sixty five yards wide, that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: would make it. You know, some spots where guys aren't
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: getting the hit and having the concussions and things like that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: But it's also going to give them some more space
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: because of how athletic they are be able to turn
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: the corner and get some big plays out of it
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: as well. So even though it's only eight, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: sixty was twelve twelve yard difference. I mean, I think
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: that difference would make would do a lot for the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: game if you can make it into a stadium now.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, the stadiums are built to cover the fifty
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: three and to go twelve yards wider would be a
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: little difficult in some of the NFL stadiums today.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go. Depends on another good question here. Did
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you enjoy being a wide receiver quarterback which caused you
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: have better stats in vote? Interesting and by the way,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Plan has zone show here on our network as well,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really know that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, quarterback was what I always wanted to be
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and I've always enjoyed it. I think Coach Balden had
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: a couple of passes where he threw that we did
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: a reverse and they threw it to me. I was
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: fifty to fifty catching the ball, but I was I
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: really I just enjoyed the challenge, you know, of leading
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: guys into battle and executing the game plan the coach
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Bowden and Mark Rick put together week in and week
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: out at Florida State, and then the same with my
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: office and coordinators and head coach. I realized I was
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: just an extension of those guys. When I'm on the field,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I'm the guy that's that's talking to the players the most.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I get to hold the ball every play. You know,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the ball is going to come to me and I
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: got to do something with it. So I've always liked that.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I mean that that was fun to do, and and
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I like the pressure situations. I always seem to enjoy
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: those and just realize that, hey, you got to go
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: out there and execute the player the best you can.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: If you get it, that's great. If you don't learn
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: from it and just don't make the same mistake twice, you're.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: One of those. I'm going to tell you something. When
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I played baseball, I love playing catcher because I'm like dude,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I had to be involved in every play, and I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: didn't care if I was talking to the posy hitter,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the umpire. I'm not catcher. I was involved in one
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of those. And when you can impact the game as
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: much as you can, when you have a more vocal
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: opportunity to do it, you do it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: That's right, Jay.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Here's another one from a competitive perspective, how did you
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: take being cut going to a league that is less
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: prestigious still find a way to drive I mean team
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: championship cow for playing also present. Like, I'll tell you
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: one thing, this chat room is a great question. I'm glad.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody likes to get cut. I mean, that was
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the first time that I was actually told like, you're
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: not good enough to play football. And that was at
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Kansas City. And I understood that. I mean that the coaches,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: coach Schttenheimer has to put a team together, and he
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: viewed that I wasn't good enough for what they wanted
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: to do. And that's fine. I mean, I completely understood that,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: but I didn't want to give up on football. And
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: just to go a full circle is that I left
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, went up to Canada, played another sixteen years
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: up there. But I had a chance to see coach
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Schottenheimer at the East West Shrine Game when he was
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: coaching it, and I went up and talked to him
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and he remembered me and everything, and I said, I
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: just want to thank you for cutting me, because you
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you pushed me to go out there and get better
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and to strive to be the quarterback that you thought
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I was going to be but just wasn't good enough
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: at that time. And you know, and he appreciated that.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: He goes. I don't get too many guys coming back
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: saying thank you for cutting me, but I owed it
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to him because he gave me that fire to go
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: out there and try to be the best that I
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: could be a quarterback and realizing that I wasn't there
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: yet and I had to keep striving to get better.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: And you root of the Chiefs to this day.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like the Chiefs.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I got helmets in here at Jerseys in here the Chiefs.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So I I mean I watched their quarterback and that
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: he is unbelievable. I mean it's the things that he does.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's unbelievable, and you know, the chemistry
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: that he has just with that offense and with coach Reid.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: It's great to watch. You see him really in command
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: of everything that happens here at Kansas City.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: That's another question. From Jay. Do you think detroyan body's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a vision of championship calor a team you mentioned and
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: what see would you prefer watching Detroit or Pittsburgh?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: You know what, I like both of them. I like
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the Detroit. I like just the way that their mentality
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: is kind of what they They come out on the
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: football field saying, Hey, this is what we're gonna do.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: You got to stop us. We got there. We're gonna
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: do everything offensively, defensively, We're going to disrupt anything you
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: want to try and do offensively. And then when we
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: get the ball back, our guys are going to go
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: down and put the points on the board. So you
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: just got to play catch up and Kansas or that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: can say. With Pittsburgh Mike Tomlin unbelievable. I mean just
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: what he's done with the enthusiasm that he gives to
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: his men to go out there and perform. And I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: love the standard is the standard. I mean that that
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: is what every player wants to be told, because each
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: player knows what the standard is, and if they're not
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: living up to it, it's easy to look in the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: mirror and make make that statement to yourself saying, hey,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not living up to the standard I got to do.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I gotta be better, and it shows on the field.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Guys play for him. Russell Wilson's doing an excellent job
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: at the quarterback position of not only throwing the deep
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: ball like he was doing earlier in his career, but
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: also pulling the ball and getting them sent things out
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: on the edge and making put some pressure on the
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: defense to keep the ball and keep the change moving.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So I like both of those if right now, I
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: mean I like the way Detroit plays. I just like
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: their mental attitude of going into a football game is
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: we're going to dictate the game. You're not going to
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: dictate the game to us.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's attributed by the culture of that Dan Campbell
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: seems to upset that franchise. Of course, it didn't hurt
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that when they hired him. You got a six year
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: contract from the get go, So if he wanted to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: go for it on fourth down nine million times, he
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: wasn't losing his job over it because they gave him
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: enough time saying we believe what you're gonna do. Any
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: other organization goal they go a little bit crazy, but
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: they're given them some room and we know where the
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: results are.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Was, and then the players, the players play for him
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: because he will go it on fourth down. He's not
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: doing it just as a gimmick. He's doing it because
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: he has faith and his ballplayers and players appreciate that
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that the coach has given it. I mean he's putting
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: it on the table and saying, hey, I trust my guys.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: My guys will get it done, and they do it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: They perform and they get the job done.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Another good one by Jay. Like when these guys come
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: in there, I can't think of everything but a love
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it when they do. What was your lowest woman in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: sports in general? How did you find a way to
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: overcome it? And have you lever? Did it? As a driver? Yeah?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: You know again going back first time being told you
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: can't play ball. You don't know that ride back from
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: where are from Liberty University back down to Kansas City
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: was the longest ride I ever made. You know. I
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: didn't know what I was going to do. And that
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: was the I'm sitting there thinking, you know, my going
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: back to Florida State to you know, help coach Bowden. Coach.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I did not know where I was going. I didn't
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: know what I was going to do. The next day
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: and you kind of think, Okay, this is football is
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: done for me, or what else is going to be
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: out there? I didn't know. I knew a little bit
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: about the Canadian Football League. I did not know that
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Winnipeg had my rights to go up there, and got
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: a phone call a week later about wanting to want
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: me to come up there and show them what I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: can do for their team and see where it goes
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: from there. But the lowest moment there was just first
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: time ever being told you can't do something. I mean
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I got told a lot of times about my parents,
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: I can't do something, but you know, you can't do this,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you can't do that. But but something that you really enjoyed,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: and there wasn't any anywhere else to go. I just
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: got in my car and drove back to my apartment
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: in Kansas City and just sat there in silence and
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: didn't know where, what direction or anything I was doing.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: And I didn't want to be in that spot again.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of that drove me into make sure
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: you're doing every little thing now, don't look at the
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: big picture, look at the small picture, and just stack
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: days on top of days and things will come together.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: You don't.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got to see the big picture, but
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: you got to start just with a little day, one
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: day at time. And it sounds some days you're going
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: to be good, some days you're going to be bad.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: But try to be one percent better than you were
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the day before. And that's just why I started at that.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Point very good, all right, I hope Penzlan said it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Did you ever ask to.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Be traded a couple of times in the CFL? You know,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: I had the luxury of going one in seventeen in Hamilton.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: We lost our owners midway through the season. The league
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: took us over and we weren't doing very well, and
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I asked to be moved from that team to go
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: to a team that might be in contention, that would
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: be looking for my services. But with the league owning
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: the team, they weren't allowed to do trades, so I
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: was stuck there. So that was probably the only time
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I looked to be traded, was when I realized that
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the organization was not going in the right direction.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. More in the chat, our CFL and NFL booked
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: basically same. We're different, they're.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: The same same calls.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Everybody has different ideas of what they want to call
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: different runs the same stuff like that we do a
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: lot of different things with our motion that they can't
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: do because only one guy can go in motion in
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the In the NFL, we have to call a bunch
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: of different crazy emotions for our guys to understand what
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to do. But very similar. Protections are very similar the
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: secondary what we call for coverages, cover three, cover four,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: cover two, match coverage, all the same things that you
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: were here on an NFL field or an NFL broadcast.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: And Jay says, thanks for sharing the vulnerable moments. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: asked it because my challenge employees regularly to be better
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and day in and day out, and also take Mad
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: News and leverage that leverage. It is a positive, very
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: good stuff. Jay. We'll continue with the JA theme promone,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and I know it's hard, but it's a great anthropy
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and I mean to use your story at some point.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: That's what's all about. Actually when I bring on guests
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: here and they can bring some to the show, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: definitely do that. So with that said, let's go on
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to something I know you must be extremely proud of
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: as we wrap this edition of the motor City Mad Models,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and we'll go back to our sponsors in just a moment,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: But describe a feeling when you were inductive in the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Canadian Football League Hall of Fame in twenty eleven.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was Scott, to be honest. It was a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: phone call from the commissioner. And when I answered the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: phone and he said as the commissioner of the CFL,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I said, all right, what did I do wrong? Because
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I was out scouting. I thought I did something wrong.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: He goes, no, no, no, You're fine. I just wanted
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: to let you know that you've been elected into the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Canadian Football League Hall of Fame. And I again, I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: never thought, almost like the draft day when Kansas City
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: drafted me, I never thought that was going to happen.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I just went out and played football and just had
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: fun with the guys that I was with, never looking
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: at when I didn't even know how many years you
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: had to be out before you get nominated for the
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame. So when that phone call came,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: it was it was. It was a lot of joy.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. It correlated with my
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: earlier story because I was at the East West where
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I thank the coach Schottenheimer just the night before for
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: cutting me, so it all kind of worked in together.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Now that's crazy there, but it's such an honor to
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame with the guys that
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: established the Canadian Football League. You know, they were holding
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: us up. We were on their shoulders, and now we're
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: doing that now with the younger generation. We're making sure
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: that we're supporting them. And it's such a great game
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and it's a lot of fun. I mean, like I
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: said before, it's one of the oldest trophies in North America.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: It's the Great Cup Championship. It's been everywhere. It's been lost.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We won it one year and we left it at
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: a bar and Charles Barkley brought it back for us
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: because he happened to be in town playing basketball. It's
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: been in the bottom of a river, it's been dented,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: it's been torn apart in the celebration, but it's part
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of a Canadian national history. It's a big part of
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: it and it was great to be able to hold
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: on to it once, you know, once in a while,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: and hopefully we'll get another chance to do it again.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Where's it located for those watching for the first time.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Well, right now, the winning team from this last year's
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Great Cup has it. So the Toronto Argonauts have it
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: right now and.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Have the Canadian Football Hall of Fame.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Canadian Football of Fame is in Hamilton, Ontario.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, Hamilton.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Ye, it's in Hamilton, and the replica of the original
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: is in the Hall of Fame. And then the team
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: that wins it, you get it for a year to
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: take it wherever you want. Each of the players get
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: to take it home and they can show it in
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: their community and do all that stuff with very similar
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: to what they do with the Stanley Cup as well.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, very good, So folks, John Vans, Canadian Football
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame going to Hamilton, Ontario. As long as
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: these questions keep coming in chat room, I'm going to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: put them out there right your time. So Jane, same plays,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but twelve players, they keep coming. I keep posting them.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Here we go, same plays. There must be some sort
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: of aspect of gameplay or is it the same difference
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: between a few of this winer? What is the extra
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: position generally in the wide receiver or the safety. I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: believe that's what he's trying to say.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think going to the extra position. Is it
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: is that usually it's an ection. We played with one
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: running back and five receivers. We don't play with the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: tight end. So those are our that's our sets. You
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: can do a three by two set, four by one set,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you know, with your your guys at the receiver spot,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: or take the running back out and do all six receivers.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Do it that way.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Let me get some water too, buddy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Well you talk a little bit at bit dry, but
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't know. I did not know that they didn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: play with the tight end. They don't play with the
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: tight end.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: No, usually no, because we want to get you to
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: get the ball out there and you got to throw it.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: So we're going to get as many guys out there
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: as possible.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So it might be a little bit of the Arena
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Football League, certain address and something that you don't very interesting.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So now Jay suggesting the time to write a book,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: mister McManus, I did. I'm sure you probably have enough
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: material to do it out there. Okay, Now let's go
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: back to Pensman. Okay, do you have a gold jacket
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: from the CFL. That's interesting.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: It's not gold, that's black, but it has the CFL
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame crest on it. So I had to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: wear it at the Great Cup? Was it three weeks ago?
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: So I wore it. I wear it once a year
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: at the Great Cup. Yeah, so yeah, it's a lot
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: of fun.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Well do you ever wear it when you go to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame when they bringing new people or
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: how is that set up?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Yep, there's a Hall of Fame game is then Hamilton
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: each year. If I'm not out on the road scouting
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and I can get up there, I'll definitely go to
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame game. But usually they they require
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: us to do a couple of functions here and there
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: at the Great Cup, and that's usually where I wear it. Yeah,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: it still fits surprisingly because you know I'm not in
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: the same playing shape Scott, you know.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, telling me about that really seriously of course, if
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: you're looking to get the really seriously out, you did toy?
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah they closed, just don't worrow what they so you
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: know what to do? You put them in a frame
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: if you have to do so. James said, keep it
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: rolling a little bit and then won't have kandambling on
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: for another station break out of the Rappa. I'm going
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: to assume that you were injured at some point was
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: what was your jersey worst injury and naggy injuries, so
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: we were playing days.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: The worst injury I got was at Florida State. I
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: was sacked against Memphis. I did not see the guy coming,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: got year hold my sophomore year and had vertigo. For
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: that would have been the eighty five season. I only
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: played the first four games, never came back and played
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: again in eighty five. Chip Ferguson took over my position
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: for the eighty six season. I got in a little
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: bit of eighty six against Michigan, and once I got
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: into that game, then it took over for the rest
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: of eighty six and eighty seven. So that's the worst
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: injury as far as vertigo. I never had that before.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Actually I thought it, you know, it was some kind
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: of neurological damage inside the break that I may not
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: be able to play football again, But doctors all looked
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: at us said it was furtigo. And then in Canada,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I got a spiral fracture on my hand, got hit
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: from behind and the grass came up a lot faster
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: than my hands could get out and just stuck it
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: into the ground. But other net you know, knocking on
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: wood knees are good. Hips are good. Head is good.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: I think you know. Sometimes I forget dates, but that's
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: about it. But other net I got no real issues
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: from playing that long in football and getting hit like that,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: So I credit the offensive lineman, the running backs, and
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: those guys are protecting me and protected my back. Yep.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that you didn't suffer any long term injuries.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: We could get into that another day when I have you,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: because we know the injuries after playing a physical sportlight
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: football are definitely in right, but we won't touch on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that tonight. And now Jay wants to talk about virtigo
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: from mouths, so we will do it for go last
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: a while. I'm glad to see you didn't get too
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: injured because it's it's not didn't likely to get hit. Well,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that's what we just talked about, but he did reinforce
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: what we did. Thanks Jay, appreciate you very much creation
• 49:05
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• 49:08
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• 49:26
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• 49:29
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• 49:32
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• 49:37
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• 49:39
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• 49:41
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• 49:47
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• 49:52
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• 49:55
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• 49:58
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• 50:01
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• 50:29
  Speaker 1: it all, Joshua Dor. Well again, josh When you ask
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: great questions, people recognize you, and I know that every
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: show that you continue to do these things, you're going
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: to continue to get better. You do Pezland want to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: know if you watch the USFL Oh, yeah, we.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Scout those guys as well. Yeah, we do watch them.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: There's season runs now that's coming up from March till June,
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: and then we usually get those guys that will come
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: up after they heal up a bit. We'll get them
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: in July and August if they can get out of
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: their contracts. There's only one year contracts that they'll help
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: us for the playoff.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: But one thing I wanted to ask. When you're op
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: in the Canadian Football League, do you need a working
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: visa up there? How does that work?
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Yes, each player from the US has to get a
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: visa to work. Usually we don't get the visas for
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: the guys until the final cuts are made for training camp.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: They let us bring all the guys in because they're
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: just trying out for a job. They don't have the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: job yet. But once you get the job, the US
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: guy has got to jump into a bus, go down
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: to the border, get your visa and then go back
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: to practice.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and what happens when they get cut do they
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: have to relinquish those visas?
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: They usually they get taken with them is only one
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: year visa, so it's before the end of the year.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Some players are staying in Canada even you know, whether
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: they're on our team for the rest of the year
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: or if they get cut. They might stay in town
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: because we'll tell them they stay around. If we have
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: an injury, we'll call you right back. And we do
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff with the people in the community
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: and with a lot of supporters we have, they're always
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: looking to have football guys around to either talk to kids,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: community service stuff and things like that. So it helps out.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Where do a lot of these players stay when they're
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: up there, they'll.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Get their own apartments. Usually if you have a family,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the family will come up for the summer, but if
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: you have kids in school, sometimes they'll go back, but
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: guys will get houses and have four or five players
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: into a house. It's a nice schedule because the Winnipeg
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Jets are in town as well, but they're not. We
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: don't overlap that much during the season, so once they
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: get done playing in the summer, we're just starting and
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: then we finish up right at the middle of November
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and they're just beginning. So a lot of the houses
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: are mixed with both Jets and with Winnipeg Blue Marbel players.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are going to ask what the
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: differences in the pain between the NFL and CFL. Do
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: you want to shed a little late on that.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean there is a big difference. You're
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: definitely in the CFL to play to get back to
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: the NFL. So I think I'm not sure. I think
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: the NFL cap this year is like over two hundred
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: million dollars. Our cap for each team is a little
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: over five million dollars for forty five players. So quarterbacks
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: of the high end guys, they're going to make between
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: four and six hundred thousand Canadian We see your top
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: receivers will make somewhere between two and three hundred thousand,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: and then some of your alignment will make you know
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: between the one to twenty fives, one seventy fives will
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: be your alignment. There's a lot of guys that are
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: up there playing for eighty thousand Canadian ninety thousand Canadian
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: there's not You're not going to retire on CFL money,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: but you you'll be able to play for a long
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: time and have a lot of fun. But it also
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: gives you an opportunity to be exposed to the NFL
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: guys because you're right after our season, you're permitted to
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: try out for NFL teams right away, so that where
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: you're just playing showing the film, then you get a
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: chance to go work out for NFL teams right away.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Good. Well, we'll keep you a little longer because the
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: questions keep coming. As NIL heard any football league in
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: any way, Sayer form, I know it's kind of a
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: random question, but I'm curious the impacts for recruiting from
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: all CFL perspect It's a different question, but certainly one.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: It's a great question, Jay, I mean, it does. When
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I was scouting earlier before NIL came out, kids coming
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: out of college really didn't have much money. You know,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: now you're seeing quarterbacks with eight hundred nine hundred thousand
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: dollars that they're getting from the nil deal. They're not
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: if they don't make the NFL, they're not ready to
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: come to the CFL yet. They're going to try and
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: then they'll wait out a little bit longer than what
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: they normally would do because they have some money in
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: their pocket. So it has hurt us in the scouting
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: department to get guys to come up and play just
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: because these these younger guys do have money in their pocket.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I still think you got to play to get exposure
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: to the NFL. We have a great connection with all
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: the NFL teams. We've We've put a lot of guys
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, and some guys have been starters and
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: some guys just been the quality backup guys or special
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: teams guys. But but they're making good money now and
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's uh, it's a chance to keep keep
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: your dream alive. You know, every guy grows up wanting
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: to play in the NFL if you're if you're into football,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: So this is it's just a sidetrack. Everybody's story is
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: different on how you get to the NFL and we
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: just happen to be one of those little avenues that
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: we can help some guys out at.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: No show without you would be without bringing up a
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: reference about the Winnipeg Jets are having a good season.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Paul Maurice was lunso a coach I find start there. Well,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: put that up has run back to you another good one.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Do you scout high school or college?
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Mainly college? I mean we uh we we will look
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: at some high school guys because there's me. I'm here
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: in Venice, so there's always some good football players coming
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: through Venice High School. But I'll track them wherever they
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: go to college and watch them and then uh, but
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: mainly it's our guys that scouting through uh colleges. I'll
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: see every team in the in the state of Florida
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: play live all there's all their schools. I'll see them
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: play live and then try to get into Southeast Georgia
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: or Eastern Alabama to watch some of those schools as well.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: And then I tried. When I'm watching the Florida teams,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I want to see somebody different, like you know that
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen before, Like I saw California against Florida State.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: You know those those the Virginia Tech against Miami so
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: games that I normally would get a chance to see,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like a Virginia and the California team. I tried to
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: go go to those games as well.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Another good one from Penslan. Are you going to any
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: bowl games of scout and bring players to the CFL
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: if they can't make it an I'm going to.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I think it used to be the Motor City one,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: the one in Detroit on the day after Christy because yeah,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: so I'll be up in that area, so I'm gonna
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: do that one and then get back. I think there's
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the Gas Marilla Is in Tampa, right and I did
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: the Boca Bowl Baton Bowl last year. I was at
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: that game too, Okay, I did that the US Bull Yeah,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: because then I did the what's the other one? The
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: oh the two? And there's two in Orlando. I can't
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: there's the Pop Tart.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: That I'm actually hoping to go to that one this year.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, A good possibility to get to that one. And
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: then there's the other one that said before it it's
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: a smaller bowl game. I got my schedule working out
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: right now, just trying to get the okay to get
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: those to those games.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, back to the chat room a little more
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: before we wrap up the show. Appreciate the response. Great
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: show again trigging guess tonight. Man, when I when I
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: my guests come on, I make sure that they're a
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: ffroal do does see quarterback. Obviously, I'm not gonna there
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to touch. I have a shot to play the NFL.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: He's an ex Oregon State guy. I'm a fan. Even
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: though he struggled. It was a tough year for this kid.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was tough. I mean it never really got
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: clicking early. Uh. He has a skill set to play
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: in the CFL for sure, because he has a strong arm.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: U he can move with the football and you know,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: run around, move the change a little bit. Uh. One
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: of one thing I see, he just needs to be
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a little more accurate. And I talked about that earlier.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Be an accurate thrower, and that can come. They could come,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: just you know, getting the feel for what the game
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: is and getting the ball out. But I mean, he
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: was very good at Clemson, he's good at Oregon State.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Just the just fell some tough times there at Florida State.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: But he definitely has the attributes to be in the CFL.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Pasan, I want to hold your breath about Cam
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Moore going to the CFL. Worth mentioning anyways, for Dreamer.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Now, a couple of teams that have looked at him
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: up in the CFL when he was a little bit younger,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: but now he's he's doing pretty good right now. I
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: think he'll be set for a while. Yeah.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I've been watching him play all year. It's been a
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: great year watching him under Mario Chris Wolf for sure.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: And he's the type of quarterback that we look for,
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: guy that can move around. We look for a runner
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: that's an athlete. We look for a thrower that's an athlete,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: not a runner who thinks he can throw. I mean
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: camp he could throw the football, so that those he
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: is for a CFL quarterback, he would be an outstanding pick.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is exactly why I brought up Johnny Mallains
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: earlier in the broadcast. All Right, can'ty go ahead to
• 58:59
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• 59:02
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  Speaker 1: Right, thank you very much, Candy, appreciate that. Danny, I
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  Speaker 1: can't thank you for being on the show here. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said at the top of the hour, you're the
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  Speaker 1: latest Hall of Famer that I've had a great pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Difference between you is at least we go back a
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  Speaker 1: long way, and yes has been you learned a lot
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  Speaker 1: about the CFL, and Danny certainly gave a good educational
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  Speaker 1: mouth the league. Hopefully people will start watching a lot
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  Speaker 1: more and I'll be bringing on Danny a lot more,
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  Speaker 1: and we're planning to bring him on Tuesday night with
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  Speaker 1: special shout out to Rod Peterson who wanted a picture
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  Speaker 1: of Danny mcmadison. I knew who this guy was all
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  Speaker 1: I had to turn back the clock back to the
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  Speaker 1: eighties to do it. I'll shout out to Rob Peterson
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  Speaker 1: as well. But meanwhile, Danny, I want to thank you
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  Speaker 1: very much for taking the time of your out of
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  Speaker 1: You've always been a really, really great friend, and it's
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  Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to get up to Vantasca as well,
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  Speaker 1: but we have a date Tuesday night. I want to
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