Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Elevating Pharmacy as a Strategic Driver in Health Systems with Paul Green, PharmD
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- 0:00Hello everyone, and welcome to the Becker's Pharmacy
- 0:02Leadership Podcast. I'm Ella Jeffries, pharmacy reporter with
- 0:06Becker's Healthcare.
- 0:07Today, I'm joined by Paul Green, director of
- 0:09pharmacy services at Westchester Medical Center.
- 0:12In this episode, we'll be discussing the key
- 0:14trend shaping pharmacy today, how leaders are navigating
- 0:17change across clinical care, technology, and supply chain,
- 0:20and what it takes to build and lead
- 0:22a strong pharmacy program in a complex health
- 0:24system.
- 0:25Doctor Green, thank you so much for joining
- 0:27me today. To start us off, can you
- 0:28please introduce yourself and share a bit more
- 0:31about your role and the scope of your
- 0:32pharmacy operations?
- 0:34Sure. Like you said, I'm Paul Green, and
- 0:36I'm the director of pharmacy services at Westchester
- 0:39Medical Center.
- 0:40That's located in Valhalla, New York, and it's
- 0:43the academic flagship of WMC Health Network.
- 0:47My role really sits across clinical, operational, and
- 0:50administrative pharmacy services.
- 0:52So I spend a lot of time thinking
- 0:53about not just how pharmacy runs day to
- 0:56day, but how we continue to grow and
- 0:58evolve as a strategic part of the health
- 1:00system.
- 1:01At Westchester, pharmacy supports a pretty broad range
- 1:04of services,
- 1:06acute care, critical care, oncology,
- 1:08infusion,
- 1:10ambulatory areas, all of it.
- 1:12So a lot of my work is about
- 1:15making sure we have strong operations,
- 1:18are supporting our teams, and are creating better
- 1:20alignment between what pharmacy is doing and what
- 1:22the health system is trying to achieve more
- 1:24broadly in quality, safety,
- 1:27access, and financial stewardship.
- 1:29What I really like about this work is
- 1:31that pharmacy sits in a unique place.
- 1:34We're deeply clinical, but we're also operational and
- 1:37financial.
- 1:38When it's working well, pharmacy can have a
- 1:40real impact across the organization.
- 1:44Definitely. I couldn't agree more. Thank you so
- 1:46much for that overview.
- 1:47And, you know, as you mentioned, there's a
- 1:49lot happening across the pharmacy landscape right now.
- 1:52What key trends or developments are you watching
- 1:54most closely, whether that be, you know, in
- 1:56clinical practice, technology, or the supply chain?
- 2:00Yeah. There's a few things I'm actually watching
- 2:02currently.
- 2:04One is the continued shift in how pharmacy
- 2:07is viewed inside health systems.
- 2:10I think the most forward thinking organizations are
- 2:12moving away from seeing pharmacy mainly as a
- 2:15cost center and are starting to recognize it
- 2:17as a real driver of clinical value, operational
- 2:20performance, and financial impact.
- 2:23I'm also paying a lot of attention to
- 2:25the expansion of pharmacists into more direct patient
- 2:28care roles, especially in ambulatory care, specialty,
- 2:32transitions of care, and areas where pharmacists can
- 2:35help manage complex patients more longitudinally.
- 2:38There's a lot of opportunity there, but it
- 2:41has to be built thoughtfully and tied to
- 2:43outcomes.
- 2:44And then, of course, technology and data. One
- 2:46of the biggest opportunities for pharmacy right now
- 2:49is getting better at connecting clinical, operational, and
- 2:52financial data so we can make stronger decisions
- 2:56and better demonstrate our value.
- 2:58And finally, supply chain still matters every single
- 3:01day.
- 3:02Drug shortages are still a major issue, and
- 3:05I think they forced pharmacy leaders to become
- 3:07even more operationally
- 3:09disciplined and creative than they already were.
- 3:13Definitely. Do you have any examples you could
- 3:15share of,
- 3:16whether it be that technology
- 3:18aspect you mentioned, some things you guys are
- 3:20piloting or using, or with that supply chain
- 3:23issue, things way what are some ways that
- 3:25you guys have gotten to be creative?
- 3:27Yeah. We're really on the cusp of moving
- 3:30into
- 3:31some exciting things technology wise as we
- 3:35transition
- 3:35our electronic medical record system. And in doing
- 3:39that, we're gonna be able to
- 3:41have some bidirectional in interconnectivity
- 3:43between a lot of our systems, whether that's
- 3:46our automated dispensing cabinets
- 3:48and our infusion pumps, all being able to
- 3:51talk directly to the patient's medical record. And
- 3:54that's really gonna allow pharmacy to have a
- 3:56more comprehensive
- 3:57scope and view as to what's going on
- 4:00within the patient's care, what the nurses are
- 4:03doing, what the providers are doing, and help
- 4:05us to be a more active member of
- 4:07the team.
- 4:08Great example. I love to hear that. Thank
- 4:10you for sharing.
- 4:12Now looking at your, you know, own organization,
- 4:14I know you touched on this a little
- 4:15bit, but what initiatives or areas are you
- 4:18most focused on right now taking with those
- 4:20key trends in mind?
- 4:22Right now, we're really focused on pharmacy transformation
- 4:26at the enterprise level.
- 4:28A lot of that's about governance, standardization,
- 4:31and making sure pharmacy has the right voice
- 4:34and system level decisions.
- 4:36I'm very interested in helping move pharmacy from
- 4:38being reactive
- 4:40to more
- 4:41proactive and more embedded in the broader organizational
- 4:44strategy.
- 4:45I'm also excited about areas where pharmacy can
- 4:47expand its impact, whether that's ambulatory growth, specialty
- 4:52strategy, oversight of ICOS therapies, or creating stronger
- 4:56links between frontline pharmacy work and the larger
- 4:58health system goals.
- 5:01And, honestly, a big area of focus for
- 5:03me is workforce sustainability.
- 5:06We can have the best ideas in the
- 5:07world, but if the model isn't sustainable for
- 5:10the people doing the work, it's not gonna
- 5:12hold.
- 5:14So I'm spending a lot of time thinking
- 5:16about staffing models, role clarity, leadership development,
- 5:20and how we can build systems that are
- 5:22better for both the patients and the teams.
- 5:25Definitely. Those are some great initiatives. Love to
- 5:28hear them. What would you say are some
- 5:29of the biggest barriers standing in your way
- 5:31right now of, you know, following through with
- 5:33some of these initiatives,
- 5:35whether, you know, it be expanding the role
- 5:38of pharmacy or with those workforce initiatives?
- 5:41You know, I think like a lot of
- 5:42systems,
- 5:43there's so much opportunity for pharmacy that sometimes
- 5:47it's difficult to
- 5:51pick out, you know, where should we start
- 5:53first, what should we really focus on, and
- 5:55what's gonna have the biggest impact to
- 5:59our health care system and the patients that
- 6:01we serve.
- 6:02I know one thing I heard in a
- 6:04talk recently was that we can do anything,
- 6:07but we can't do everything.
- 6:09And I think that's really where we're at
- 6:12as
- 6:13a network right now trying to decide where
- 6:15are those key areas and where do we
- 6:17focus.
- 6:18And, you know, as we
- 6:20identify those items, I think we have nothing
- 6:22but opportunity.
- 6:24Definitely. Thank you for sharing.
- 6:27Now looking back over the past six to
- 6:29eighteen months, what accomplishments are you most proud
- 6:32of within your pharmacy program?
- 6:34What I'm probably most proud of is the
- 6:36progress we've made in better connecting pharmacies' day
- 6:39to day work to the bigger priorities of
- 6:41our organization.
- 6:43Over the last year or so, we've had
- 6:45a lot of important conversations and made real
- 6:47progress around structure, accountability,
- 6:50service design, and where pharmacy can have the
- 6:53greatest impact.
- 6:54Some of that's operational and some of it
- 6:56strategic, but I think it all really matters.
- 7:00I'm also really proud of our team.
- 7:02It's been a demanding environment here like it
- 7:05has been for a lot of health systems,
- 7:07and people have continued to show up, keep
- 7:10things moving, and stay committed to the work.
- 7:13That really matters a lot to me.
- 7:15More than anything,
- 7:17I'm proud that we're not just trying to
- 7:19maintain.
- 7:20We're trying to build something stronger and more
- 7:22intentional for the future.
- 7:25Definitely. That's great. And you mentioned, you know,
- 7:27your team that team aspect
- 7:30and how important it is. How do you
- 7:32build a strong culture of, you know, teamwork
- 7:34and, you know, pride in the organization to
- 7:35want to keep showing up every day even
- 7:37when it does get hard?
- 7:39Well, that's something that we continue to work
- 7:42on every single day at every level of
- 7:44this organization, and it's really a focus from
- 7:46our CEO down, and it's really inspiring.
- 7:49I think the biggest thing that we're trying
- 7:52to do is ensure that there's clear communication
- 7:56that we,
- 7:57let people know what are the expectations
- 8:00for their role, how does that fit into
- 8:03the bigger picture of what we're trying to
- 8:04do overall,
- 8:06and really work to hold each other accountable
- 8:08to meeting everybody's expectations.
- 8:11Definitely.
- 8:12For pharmacists who are earlier in their careers
- 8:14and aspiring to step into leadership roles, what
- 8:17advice would you offer? You know, what skills
- 8:19or experiences do you think matter most right
- 8:21now?
- 8:23I There's a few things.
- 8:25First,
- 8:26learn to think beyond pharmacy without losing your
- 8:28grounding in pharmacy.
- 8:30The leaders who grow into broader roles are
- 8:33usually the ones who can connect pharmacy to
- 8:35operations,
- 8:36finance, quality,
- 8:38strategy, and the overall goals of the organization.
- 8:42Second, work on building credibility early.
- 8:45Be someone who follows through, solves problems,
- 8:48communicates
- 8:49clearly, and works well with people.
- 8:52A lot of leadership opportunities come from trust.
- 8:56And I I'd also say don't wait for
- 8:59a title to start acting like a leader.
- 9:01A lot of leadership is really about how
- 9:03you show up, how you support other people,
- 9:06and how you handle difficult situations.
- 9:09If you build that muscle early, bigger opportunities
- 9:12usually follow.
- 9:14Definitely. That's a great piece of advice. Thank
- 9:17you.
- 9:18Well, Doctor. Green, this has been such a
- 9:19great conversation. Thank you so much for joining
- 9:21me and for sharing your perspectives and insights
- 9:23with us. That's all for today's episode of
- 9:26the Becker's Pharmacy Leadership Podcast. A big thank
- 9:28you again to Doctor. Green for joining us.
- 9:30Thanks for listening, and we'll see you next
- 9:32time.