Latest / Parent's Talk with Francine Juhlin / EPISODE 9: Breaking the Pattern - Getting Kids to Respect Your "No"
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hi, everybody.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Lean Juline here otherwise known as Princess Francy, and I
- 0:11Speaker 2: am the founder of the Confidence.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Club for Kids.
- 0:15Speaker 2: And today we are here with Martha Burridge, who wrote
- 0:20Speaker 2: a book called Yes You Can Raise Responsible, well, happy
- 0:27Speaker 2: and responsible children. So Martha, can you tell us how
- 0:32Speaker 2: did you get to write a book like this?
- 0:34Speaker 3: Oh, great question, Francine, and thank you so much for
- 0:37Speaker 3: having me. Well, you know when my son when my
- 0:40Speaker 3: son was four, and yes, you know, because you know
- 0:43Speaker 3: how four year old. When my son was four, Oh lord,
- 0:46Speaker 3: was he spoiled? Oh my goodness. You know, my husband
- 0:49Speaker 3: and I, his dad and I we thought that the
- 0:51Speaker 3: way you show a child love is you say yes
- 0:53Speaker 3: all the time. So he never heard no. Well that
- 0:59Speaker 3: came back and to bite us. So I had to
- 1:04Speaker 3: learn how to say no, and he had to learn
- 1:06Speaker 3: how to accept no. And I'm telling your friends saying
- 1:09Speaker 3: that was a challenge because people children who don't hear
- 1:13Speaker 3: know their little brains get fried when finally someone says
- 1:17Speaker 3: no and means it. Because I would say no and
- 1:19Speaker 3: he would believe. He didn't believe me. Why would he
- 1:22Speaker 3: because I always change it. I always change it to yes.
- 1:25Speaker 3: So when I finally put my foot down that poor child.
- 1:29Speaker 3: So it was it was tough. So you know, your
- 1:31Speaker 3: children have tantrums and they go on and on and on,
- 1:34Speaker 3: and they pester you until you say yes. Yes, I
- 1:37Speaker 3: taught him, you know, we taught him to pester us
- 1:41Speaker 3: because we would change the no to a yes. So
- 1:45Speaker 3: that's my that's my very first tip parents, when you,
- 1:48Speaker 3: you know, think long and hard. When you say no,
- 1:49Speaker 3: you better mean it because otherwise you're gonna suffer because
- 1:53Speaker 3: we did. But you know what, this is what I
- 1:55Speaker 3: put in my book, Yes you Can Raise happy, responsible children.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Everything that I learned that totally turned my son around.
- 2:02Speaker 3: In six weeks. He became a wonderful, pleasant child. You know,
- 2:06Speaker 3: he's grown now, he has his own business. He just
- 2:10Speaker 3: he became a lovely person, just a nice, a nice
- 2:13Speaker 3: young man, and all because I use the techniques that
- 2:17Speaker 3: I put in the book.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Exek, can you give us just one little teaser?
- 2:25Speaker 3: Definitely. And in fact, a friend of mine told me
- 2:28Speaker 3: that she gave this tip. She said, listen, this is
- 2:31Speaker 3: a tip from Martha's book, Yes you Can Raise Responsible Children.
- 2:34Speaker 3: This one was a kindergarten teacher and she said, oh
- 2:36Speaker 3: my goodness, this check. Class is out of control. I
- 2:38Speaker 3: don't know what I'm going to do. She goes, why
- 2:40Speaker 3: don't you try this tip that I that I got
- 2:42Speaker 3: from Martha's book. What you do is, rather than tell
- 2:45Speaker 3: the children what you don't want, stop running, tell them
- 2:48Speaker 3: what you do want. Walk. So she gave just that tip,
- 2:53Speaker 3: just that tip. A week later, the kindergarten teacher came
- 2:56Speaker 3: back and said, I have an entire different classroom.
- 2:59Speaker 2: That's me saying, oh my god, just swan simple and
- 3:03Speaker 2: one what I like to call that mindset shifts.
- 3:07Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. And you know, let me give
- 3:11Speaker 3: you an example. At the grocery store. You go to
- 3:13Speaker 3: the grocery store. First off, before you go anywhere, prepare
- 3:17Speaker 3: the child. Look we're going here. Here's what I expect
- 3:20Speaker 3: of you. I need to see you at the grocery store.
- 3:24Speaker 3: You need to see me. If you turn around and
- 3:27Speaker 3: you don't see me, we got a problem. That means
- 3:30Speaker 3: you're gonna sit in the cart. You know, don't tell
- 3:33Speaker 3: them scary stories. A bad man's gonna give you. No,
- 3:36Speaker 3: we can't handle that. Just say you know what, It
- 3:38Speaker 3: makes me feel better that I know where you're at.
- 3:40Speaker 3: The grocery store is a big place. I don't want
- 3:43Speaker 3: to come looking for you. So then when the child
- 3:45Speaker 3: runs off, and guess what, the grocery store is exciting.
- 3:49Speaker 3: I love the grocery store. If you imagine being a
- 3:52Speaker 3: little kid three years four years old, Oh my goodness,
- 3:55Speaker 3: everything's cool and you're at a level where everything, all
- 3:58Speaker 3: the good stuff's right at your eye level. So of
- 4:00Speaker 3: course the child's gonna run off. What you do is
- 4:03Speaker 3: you get the child, don't be mad, and you say,
- 4:06Speaker 3: I see you decided to sit in the cart. Where
- 4:09Speaker 3: are the bananas? I need help? And now give them
- 4:13Speaker 3: a job. Keep them occupied, put stuff in their hands,
- 4:17Speaker 3: pick this up, put that down? But where's this? Where's that? Oh?
- 4:21Speaker 3: What's going on over there? Keep them occupied?
- 4:24Speaker 2: I love that engage with the children. We went grocery
- 4:28Speaker 2: shopping last week and we saw a severely overweight i'll
- 4:34Speaker 2: just call it oh beest maybe preschooler, not quite tyler, preschooler.
- 4:41Speaker 2: And he had a laptop and airphones, oh dear, And
- 4:46Speaker 2: just that broke my heart because I know I had
- 4:48Speaker 2: weight issues, and he's going to have all kinds of trouble.
- 4:54Speaker 1: And all his parents had to do was and engage, have.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Him walk next to you, hold hand, Go get this,
- 5:01Speaker 3: get that, reach out for this, Show me this, Show
- 5:03Speaker 3: me that exactly. And that's a whole nother show. Francine. Right,
- 5:09Speaker 3: computers and electronic devices exactly.
- 5:15Speaker 2: We didn't have that growing up, right, And that's going
- 5:18Speaker 2: to lead to my next question is how or what
- 5:25Speaker 2: changes have parents face today that you know they didn't
- 5:30Speaker 2: have to worry about when we were growing up.
- 5:33Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a whole new ball game. It's a whole
- 5:35Speaker 3: new ball game. You know. Nowadays you give a four
- 5:38Speaker 3: month old device from the time they can hold something,
- 5:41Speaker 3: even before that, they've got a device in front of them.
- 5:43Speaker 3: They're constantly being entertained. They aren't engaging their brains, and
- 5:48Speaker 3: they had not learned boredom. So I really recommend you
- 5:52Speaker 3: stop that right now. Do not keep giving your children entertainment.
- 5:56Speaker 3: If you're driving in the car, do not turn the
- 5:58Speaker 3: movies on, et cetera. Engage the child. What's going on outside?
- 6:03Speaker 3: Show me where are the trees? Why is there a
- 6:05Speaker 3: stop sign here? What's the dog barking about? What do
- 6:08Speaker 3: you think he's barking about? What could be going on there?
- 6:11Speaker 3: Show me when you see a white car keep them engaged,
- 6:14Speaker 3: because what's happening is they are not learning how to
- 6:18Speaker 3: handle their boredom, how to handle their disappointment, how to
- 6:21Speaker 3: handle anything, and they're becoming drug addicts and alcoholics and
- 6:25Speaker 3: they don't know how to say no to themselves. They
- 6:27Speaker 3: expect constant entertainment. Then the next thing, you know, they're
- 6:31Speaker 3: getting the things that they shouldn't because they're dopamine receptors.
- 6:35Speaker 3: You know, thousands and thousands of people are paid to
- 6:39Speaker 3: get us addicted to social media's, to entertainment, to TikTok,
- 6:44Speaker 3: Facebook movies, commercials, thousands of people paid billions of dollars.
- 6:51Speaker 3: We can't fight against that. So we're going to have
- 6:53Speaker 3: to be very strict with ourselves and our children and
- 6:57Speaker 3: only allowing so much screen time and really to get
- 7:00Speaker 3: into our schedule.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Or making sure the screen time is something that's engaging
- 7:06Speaker 2: their mind. Like in the Confidence Club for kids, we
- 7:09Speaker 2: have science videos and activities and recipes and healthy eating tips.
- 7:16Speaker 2: So now all screen time is bad. Just make sure
- 7:21Speaker 2: they're engaging their brains and their creativity. And here's something
- 7:26Speaker 2: I like to talk about. I have a newsletter about
- 7:31Speaker 2: what's coming up next in the Confidence Club for kids.
- 7:34Speaker 2: And in this newsletter I offer different activities for the
- 7:41Speaker 2: kids and you'll get your first one if you sign.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Up for the newsletter.
- 7:46Speaker 2: The first activity is se a few emails with a
- 7:52Speaker 2: download on helping your child create their own superhero. What
- 8:00Speaker 2: kind of superhero would they want to be? Get those
- 8:03Speaker 2: creative juices flowing? Do they want a ky? Do they
- 8:08Speaker 2: want to fly?
- 8:10Speaker 1: And guess what?
- 8:11Speaker 2: Parents, this is an opportunity for you to engage with
- 8:16Speaker 2: your child and learn more about them.
- 8:20Speaker 1: And if you.
- 8:23Speaker 2: If you sign up for the newsletter right now, and
- 8:27Speaker 2: I will have the link.
- 8:28Speaker 1: In the chat. If you sign up for the.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Newsletter, Martha is going to have a free download in
- 8:36Speaker 2: the next edition. Martha, why don't you tell all the
- 8:40Speaker 2: parents about your free download?
- 8:44Speaker 3: Well, it is a quiz for parents. It tells you
- 8:46Speaker 3: what your dominant parenting style is. And not only will
- 8:50Speaker 3: you find out your dominant parenting style, but how that
- 8:52Speaker 3: style affects the behavior of your children. It's really it's really,
- 8:58Speaker 3: very very worthwhile because our parents style really determines how
- 9:02Speaker 3: our children behave in many many ways.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I am intrigued. Can you give us a little example
- 9:08Speaker 1: about what.
- 9:09Speaker 2: You mean by parenting style and what is it the
- 9:12Speaker 2: kid's behavior?
- 9:14Speaker 3: Well, there are some parents, there's authoritative and authoritarian. An
- 9:18Speaker 3: authoritative parent they are firm, but they give the child
- 9:23Speaker 3: choices and let the child decide how to do things.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Whereas authoritarian parent, they are pretty much my way or
- 9:32Speaker 3: the highway. So that's two styles right there. Then there's
- 9:36Speaker 3: the parent that well, you know, honey, whatever you want
- 9:38Speaker 3: to do is fine with me. That's called the lazies
- 9:40Speaker 3: fair parent. And then there's or the permissive parent. And
- 9:45Speaker 3: then there's they call it a neglectful parent, but it's
- 9:48Speaker 3: really a parent who's totally uninvolved in their children's lives.
- 9:51Speaker 3: But you know, we all have a little bit of
- 9:53Speaker 3: each of them. But which but one or the other
- 9:55Speaker 3: is more dominant.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Well, if you're listening to parents talk with us right now,
- 10:00Speaker 2: you're probably not an uninvolved parent.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's really that's probably our problem. In a
- 10:11Speaker 3: lot of times we're too involved.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Yes, So you have a Facebook group for parents, don't you?
- 10:19Speaker 2: Can you tell parents how to find you?
- 10:22Speaker 3: Yes, I'm on Facebook, Martha Burridge, and my Facebook group
- 10:25Speaker 3: is mastering Child Behavior and I've got all kinds of
- 10:28Speaker 3: good resources and videos on there for parents. I have
- 10:31Speaker 3: one video of I think it's the parents with their
- 10:35Speaker 3: young children in a hotel lobby. Those children are just
- 10:40Speaker 3: making mincemeat out of that place. And I give a
- 10:44Speaker 3: few suggestions of how the parents could have changed that completely.
- 10:48Speaker 3: And you know, I don't believe in harming my children,
- 10:51Speaker 3: so I would never hit a child or say anything
- 10:54Speaker 3: mean or negative to a child because that's way too damaging.
- 10:58Speaker 3: But you know, when we have firm limits and when
- 11:00Speaker 3: we do what we say and say what we do,
- 11:04Speaker 3: the child learns. That gives you know what, When my
- 11:07Speaker 3: mom or dad says no, they mean it, and I
- 11:09Speaker 3: need to be heaved.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Just like you said at the beginning, no means no,
- 11:15Speaker 2: and you have to learn how to.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Mean it when you say it.
- 11:22Speaker 2: I have seen so many Well, we don't have human children,
- 11:28Speaker 2: but we have dogs, and I think it's so funny.
- 11:30Speaker 2: My husband will say no and that oh that's okay,
- 11:34Speaker 2: here have a cookie.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Oops.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Maybe it's a good thing we don't have kids, because
- 11:41Speaker 2: they would be the most spoiled, ratten little brats you
- 11:44Speaker 2: could have ever imagined.
- 11:45Speaker 1: But I can imagine.
- 11:47Speaker 2: I could imagine how hard it is for parents now
- 11:50Speaker 2: when the kids see all their friends.
- 11:55Speaker 3: That's a whole other game. Frands saying, a whole other game.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Yeah, the kids go to school, Well, Sally gets too.
- 12:04Speaker 2: And I remember my parents used to say, yeah, but
- 12:07Speaker 2: Sally doesn't live in my house.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know Sally's parents, and maybe Sally
- 12:13Speaker 3: gets to but why why.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Maybe Sally doesn't have the parents that are supportive. Maybe
- 12:21Speaker 2: Sally's parents let her do it because they're those non involved.
- 12:25Speaker 3: Parents, right or or we don't know what's going on
- 12:28Speaker 3: in that family. Maybe something's going in that family that
- 12:30Speaker 3: we don't know about and they need support. So just
- 12:34Speaker 3: because they're you know, Sally's not getting the attention that
- 12:36Speaker 3: you get right now and the involvement, there could be
- 12:39Speaker 3: something else going on. So yeah, that's that's always you know. Well,
- 12:43Speaker 3: they get to do it. I don't get to do it. Oh,
- 12:45Speaker 3: they get to do it. Well, I don't know. Let's
- 12:47Speaker 3: go over there and meet them and find out.
- 12:50Speaker 2: I realize some of the things that I didn't do
- 12:52Speaker 2: as a kid. I can now thank my parents for
- 12:56Speaker 2: not letting me do it because I had gay night
- 13:00Speaker 2: at home instead, and all my friends who went out
- 13:04Speaker 2: and did what I wanted to got in trouble right.
- 13:08Speaker 3: Well, you know, Francinet I taught special education high school
- 13:13Speaker 3: for sixteen years and one of my students came here
- 13:15Speaker 3: and she goes, you know, miss Pirch, we have parties
- 13:18Speaker 3: after school a lot because most of the parents aren't home,
- 13:21Speaker 3: and so, really, honey, what goes on at these parties?
- 13:24Speaker 3: And she looked at me and she goes, you don't
- 13:25Speaker 3: want to know. This is a fourteen year old special
- 13:29Speaker 3: education child.
- 13:30Speaker 1: That's gary.
- 13:32Speaker 3: Yeah, so parents find out where your children are going,
- 13:35Speaker 3: who their friends are, who their parents, who the parents
- 13:38Speaker 3: of their friends are, because a lot of them live
- 13:40Speaker 3: in two homes. So that is true.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Well, Marca, you've given us all a lot of stuff
- 13:51Speaker 2: to think about and some really great resources to use
- 13:56Speaker 2: to learn more about how you can support your children
- 14:00Speaker 2: more effectively. Do you have a last golden nugget to
- 14:05Speaker 2: share with parents?
- 14:07Speaker 3: Yes, one day at a time. Don't worry about yesterday.
- 14:11Speaker 3: You know, if you did something that you shouldn't have yesterday,
- 14:13Speaker 3: apologized and make up for it, make restitution. Tomorrow's not
- 14:18Speaker 3: here yet. Just do what you can do today. It's
- 14:21Speaker 3: all going to work out.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I love that.
- 14:25Speaker 2: That's one attitude that changed my whole life because I
- 14:28Speaker 2: was a stressor. I stressed over and everything that could happen,
- 14:33Speaker 2: everything that might happen. And I got that from my mother,
- 14:37Speaker 2: and I have learned that I cannot worry about something
- 14:43Speaker 2: I have no control over and something that might not
- 14:49Speaker 2: even happen.
- 14:50Speaker 3: That's right.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for coming on Parents Talk.
- 14:58Speaker 2: And I think there was one time you told me
- 15:02Speaker 2: that's a whole other conversation. I'd love to have you
- 15:06Speaker 2: back again sometime and we will talk about that conversation later,
- 15:11Speaker 2: So parents stay tuned.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Martha will be back hopefully.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Go ahead and put something in the comments if you
- 15:19Speaker 2: have a question for Martha that we can answer in
- 15:23Speaker 2: another episode.
- 15:25Speaker 1: For now, bye from Parents Talk.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Thanks for seeing