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2-06-26 Hour 2 - Ski jumpers..."enhancing" themselves/Vic with Greg Cosell, Tyson traded/NFL HOF inductions · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: one final time for Vicaus. He is in San Francisco
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  Speaker 2: So I know we're going to talk to people a
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  Speaker 2: little bit later.
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  Speaker 4: Vic.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Nelly, if you have this, I want to run
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  Speaker 2: this right now. I don't know if you I were.
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  Speaker 2: You were running around everywhere yesterday, Vic, But did you
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  Speaker 2: happen to catch the Lightning and Panther game at least
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  Speaker 2: the third period of it yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: I did not, please.
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  Speaker 3: So the Lightning are up FDA nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Florida is feeling frisky because they're down big, doesn't look
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  Speaker 2: like they're gonna win. So they do what some teams do,
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  Speaker 2: which is they start taking some shots.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So one member of the panthers.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was, knocks Koutrov down as
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  Speaker 2: he's skating over to the bench to get a line change.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of a cheap shot, not something super crazy, but
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  Speaker 2: just cheap. Ka Chuck comes off the bench, heels around, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: wheels around. Kutrov is standing still and Ka Chuck lays
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  Speaker 2: him out. This leads to a brawl where everybody's involved.
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  Speaker 2: It's like everybody's got a hold of somebody, gloves or off.
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  Speaker 2: They're all hooking with each other. Right, So many people
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  Speaker 2: took a penalty in that sequence that the ref had
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  Speaker 2: to get a piece of paper and write them down.
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  Speaker 3: And here's what it sounded like.
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  Speaker 5: Florida penalty number seventy seven and number nineteen both guys
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  Speaker 5: have two minutes for interference. Number twenty three, number nine
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  Speaker 5: and number six have a ten minute misconduct and Florida
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  Speaker 5: number forty two has a five minutes for fighting in
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  Speaker 5: a game misconduct for the secondary altercation, and number nineteen
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  Speaker 5: has five minutes.
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  Speaker 6: For fighting in a game misconduct. Sorry no gay misconduct
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  Speaker 6: to number nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: Tampa penalty is number ninety.
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  Speaker 6: Five minute game for fighting. Number thirty eight has five
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  Speaker 6: minutes for fighting and number eighty six, thirty seven, and
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  Speaker 6: fifty nine have a ten minute misconduct.
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  Speaker 5: Can test over the day four minute sorry to two
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  Speaker 5: minute hard place.
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  Speaker 2: That was a minute long relay of all the people
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  Speaker 2: that were penalized during that sequence.
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  Speaker 4: How did Canadians say? Sorry? Sorry? Sorry? Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: Oop?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: I mean way, that's a bender.
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  Speaker 4: That's like me going through the Yes, that's like we
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  Speaker 4: going my through my watch grocery list. Yeah, we're not
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  Speaker 4: at the grocery store. Okay, so now what this? Oop? Sorry? Sorry, sorry, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't get the organic bananas that you said I
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  Speaker 4: had to get. Nope, not buying them, hy Nope.
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  Speaker 2: A minute long of rifle rattling off thoseies. So that
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  Speaker 2: was I believe that was the final game before all
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  Speaker 2: this Olympic stuff right now, everybody's in the clear starts tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you would sink officially.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So with all of that reminder, Super Bowl sixty
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be on Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five
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  Speaker 2: this Sunday coverage from the NFL in West When one
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  Speaker 4: I gotta read you this just headline that that's on
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  Speaker 4: on X right now that came down. It just made
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  Speaker 4: me laugh. From Front Office Sports, Charles Woodson passed up
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  Speaker 4: on ownership in the Cleveland Browns to launch his own
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  Speaker 4: liquor brand.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: It makes me laugh?
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  Speaker 3: Wait, why could he not do both?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 4: I mean interest think about that. Charles Woodson passed up
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  Speaker 4: ownership in the Cleveland Browns to launch his own liquor brand.
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  Speaker 4: So that we got a choice, Sir, you have a
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  Speaker 4: choice to make. You get your own liquor Schlitzby or
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  Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, or you get part
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  Speaker 4: ownership in a football team. What do you want?
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  Speaker 2: It's the Browns. I choose tequila. It has to be
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  Speaker 2: just because it's Cleveland Rights.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds so funny to me.
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  Speaker 2: No, it is funny because I've always said Vic, the
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  Speaker 2: dream that I want is a minority owner in a
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  Speaker 2: sports franchise.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I want. I don't want any real power.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to be able to walk around the
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  Speaker 2: building like I own it, even though I own just
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  Speaker 2: a small, small, small, small portion of all of this.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I want.
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  Speaker 4: Well, sir, sir, what's his first name? Lewis owns a
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  Speaker 4: portion of the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's that the f one guy? What's his name is?
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  Speaker 4: Lewis Hamilton's hail Lewis Hamilton.
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  Speaker 3: Condae'za Rice, Yeah, I want to be one of those people.
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  Speaker 4: What if Condolly's said, Nah, I'm gonna go straight rum.
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  Speaker 4: I got a rum company I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Starting, Condoeza Rice, you want to be part of the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos ownership group. I actually I've had this whiskey aging
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  Speaker 2: in these barrels for four years already.
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  Speaker 3: I can't give up on this opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: How do people start a whiskey business? By the way,
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  Speaker 2: you don't see any profit until like six years.
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  Speaker 4: What's his name from Ireland's making huge bank on his
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  Speaker 4: whiskey business.
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  Speaker 3: He sold it McGregor.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I but here's what celebrities do.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let you know a little trade secret of these
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  Speaker 2: celebs and their their their boozes.
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  Speaker 3: Because the Rocks got one. Yeah, what's his face? Ryan
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  Speaker 3: Reynolds has one aviation gin.
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  Speaker 2: Hell, dude, Chris Stapleton has one called Traveler Whiskey.
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  Speaker 3: You know what that is? It's buffalo trays.
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  Speaker 2: So they go and they take some some whiskey from
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  Speaker 2: a barrel over there. They slap their name on it
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  Speaker 2: and they say, hey, it's actually this guy. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: a bigger brand that they just pawned off of.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, here's what we're gonna do. You and I and Moser.
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  Speaker 4: Moser can help with this. We just got done with
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  Speaker 4: two barrels at easy in Bambie's house that we put
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  Speaker 4: together about a month two months ago, right to the other,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of barrels more than that three months ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna take some of those barrels and we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: market them as our own line. I like it, and
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  Speaker 4: see if we can sell it. Yes, I mean it's heinous,
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  Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: The name of the winery is going to be. I
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  Speaker 2: could have been a Browns owner. Now you want to
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  Speaker 2: look for ridiculous headline.
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  Speaker 3: VIC.
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  Speaker 2: You know this as well as any the lengths that
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  Speaker 2: athletes will go to get an edge, whatever they can
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  Speaker 2: find and try and get an edge on the competition,
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  Speaker 2: they will.
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  Speaker 3: They will do.
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  Speaker 2: Opening ceremonies for the Olympics are tonight. This story out
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  Speaker 2: of the New York Times. Reports have surfaced before the
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  Speaker 2: Winter Olympics that allege ski jumpers, the ones that go
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  Speaker 2: off that big jump, and they just go like this, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: are injecting their sausages with hyaluronic acid to fly farther.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, wait, well, I need you to slow down. Slow down,
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  Speaker 4: it's early. It's way early. Here.
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  Speaker 2: The World Anti Doping Agency has vowed to investigate. So
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  Speaker 2: here's what happened. This is what I can surmise from
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  Speaker 2: this story. To be a ski jumper, there are limitations
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  Speaker 2: on what your suit is, and it has to be
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  Speaker 2: extremely tight. And here's the reason why you've ever seen
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  Speaker 2: a flying squirrel before seem to do those of those
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  Speaker 2: things they've like, there's squirrels with almost wings. Okay, if
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  Speaker 2: your suit is bigger than skin tight, it can act
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  Speaker 2: as like a sail.
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  Speaker 4: Just like a little bit of extra fabric.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I like tight jeans.
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  Speaker 2: So if you inject this acid into your hmm, you
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  Speaker 2: get a bigger suit because it has to fit around it.
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  Speaker 3: And this is what I'm reading.
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  Speaker 2: For every two centimeter increase, it's the equivalent to about
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  Speaker 2: five point eight meters on a jump length.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always comping hawks. Hold on a second, hold on it.
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  Speaker 4: You mean a tiny bit of excess cloth or fabric
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  Speaker 4: is going to lead to that much more in the jump.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't my investigation.
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  Speaker 4: This is stupid.
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  Speaker 3: This isn't my investigation.
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  Speaker 7: Don't believe one in the junk gets you five meters
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  Speaker 7: in the jump.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you this much. Then Julio Franco would have
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  Speaker 3: sword heard stories about Julio Franco.
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  Speaker 4: I don't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: That's the allegations that's coming out of the Olympics.
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  Speaker 4: What is the name of this acid that they're injecting.
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  Speaker 2: Hyaluronic acid. I think it's like h y A l
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  Speaker 2: U R O N.
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  Speaker 3: I see. I think it's the same stuff they used
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  Speaker 3: for like.
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  Speaker 4: Botox, hilronic acid. Let me look at this hialaronic acid.
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  Speaker 4: Mark Moser has been touting this with Rocky Mountain.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, huh Moser is involved in good good mission.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Moser actually sent us a picture as he is in
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  Speaker 2: Spain with I don't know what time it is in
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  Speaker 2: Spain right now, what time.
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  Speaker 4: Is it Vic? It's eight hours ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, he's got a beer and a shot
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  Speaker 3: in front of him right now.
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  Speaker 4: I hope so it is a hironic acid is a
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  Speaker 4: natural water binding molecule found in skin joints, connective tissue,
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  Speaker 4: acting as a super hydrator and lubricant that holds up
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  Speaker 4: to a thousand times its weight in water. No idea
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  Speaker 4: what that means, No clue, Cool Carl.
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  Speaker 3: It means you can be Julio Franco.
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  Speaker 4: For it means you can ski jump a long way.
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  Speaker 7: You could be Olympic gold medalist Nick Foles.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I watched this again, I still this
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  Speaker 2: speaking of how science doesn't make sense to me. I
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  Speaker 2: was never good in science. It was I had decent
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  Speaker 2: grades science. Whatever science we're talking about, physics, biology, I
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  Speaker 2: just never computed. I watched Lindsay Vondur practice run and
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  Speaker 2: I watched the pressure that's on her knee, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: just like.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that's nuts, that's crazy. But but you know it's
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  Speaker 4: funny because this answers a lot of questions for me,
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  Speaker 4: this hyaluronic acid. And if people ever ask me why
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  Speaker 4: I don't ski jump, it's pretty obvious. Yeah, just don't
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  Speaker 4: have it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be a cheater.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have what it takes.
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  Speaker 2: Uh three oh three five four nine two five bud
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  Speaker 2: Light Football Friday, a whole bunch more than football to
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  Speaker 2: get through, stick around, make you a good ski jumper,
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  Speaker 2: that much is for sure. Uh, it's a bud Light
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  Speaker 2: Remember to enjoy responsible. Is there some some chats that
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  Speaker 2: you had with people, Vick that you want to get
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  Speaker 2: to here?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: We did a couple of interviews yesterday. Chad Brown will
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  Speaker 4: join us shortly, but I thought the Great Coat cell,
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  Speaker 4: let's start there. Great Co sale. For those who don't
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  Speaker 4: know who he is, he's the nephew of the late
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: great Howard Cosell, in my opinion, the greatest of all
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: time in our business. And he is also a producer
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: at NFL Films. He's been there forever and his niche
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: he breaks down tape, primarily quarterbacks. He looks atquarterbacks in
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  Speaker 4: every which way, every angle. He knows a lot about quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: So he was making the rounds yesterday and I pulled
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  Speaker 4: him over. I had to ask him about bon Nicks
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  Speaker 4: And here's his thoughts on Bowen. Where he's headed here.
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  Speaker 8: With Greg Cosel, longtime NFL Films producer, author, you've done
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  Speaker 8: at all your NFL analyst, I wanted to pick your
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  Speaker 8: brain because a lot of people in Denver want to
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  Speaker 8: know the arc of bon Nicks.
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  Speaker 3: Right where do you see bon Knicks today?
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  Speaker 4: And how good can he be here?
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  Speaker 9: You know, it's really interesting. I thought that bone Knicks
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  Speaker 9: in some ways that kind of an uneven season. I
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  Speaker 9: thought that he was a little up and down. You know,
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  Speaker 9: obviously everybody points to the fourth quarters, and there's certainly
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  Speaker 9: something to be said for that, But I thought, overall,
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  Speaker 9: I thought there were moments this year where he was
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  Speaker 9: a little antsy. I thought there were times he perceived
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  Speaker 9: pressure and moved when he didn't have to. Obviously, he
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  Speaker 9: can make plays with his legs.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 9: The thing that surprised me as I was, you know,
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  Speaker 9: throughout the year and obviously when I was doing all
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  Speaker 9: my work for the AFC Championship game and obviously he
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  Speaker 9: didn't play, and I guess it's the game before I'm talking.
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  Speaker 9: So it was against Buffalo, is uh. You know, he
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  Speaker 9: had the most dropbacks of any quarterback in the league,
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  Speaker 9: and in some ways that kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of surprised me.
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  Speaker 4: You know, is that Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 9: That Sean Payton. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 9: not a bon Nicks thing. But but I was kind
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  Speaker 9: of surprised when I saw that he ended up having
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  Speaker 9: the most dropbacks in the league. But you know, I
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  Speaker 9: like bon Nicks. I actually got to do something with
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  Speaker 9: bone Nicks when he was coming out, and he was
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  Speaker 9: super impressive. We were talking about protections and and in
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  Speaker 9: for instance, in college he called a lot of the protections,
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  Speaker 9: which is very rare for a college quarterback. He's a
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  Speaker 9: really impressive guy. I thought, I thought he was really
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  Speaker 9: football smart. But you know, I think that there's still
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  Speaker 9: more for him to to to improve upon. And we
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  Speaker 9: know that he's got a coach and paid and that's
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  Speaker 9: really hard. You know, that can be tough. And I'm
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  Speaker 9: a believer in that. You know, I think it's the
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  Speaker 9: job of coaches to coach the guys, you know, not
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  Speaker 9: to think come by at And you know, he's obviously
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  Speaker 9: a good player.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he's at that point where you could
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  Speaker 4: tell Brett he likes him, but he doesn't really like him, right.
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  Speaker 4: He likes his game, he appreciates it, but he's not
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  Speaker 4: ready to put him in that elite category.
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  Speaker 2: I was having like I felt like I was tripping
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  Speaker 2: out because everything he was saying was everything that I
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  Speaker 2: think about Nicks, where.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot to like and there's a lot still
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  Speaker 3: to be desired.
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  Speaker 4: That's in his game, and that desire, I guess, is
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  Speaker 4: how do you operate when things are chaotic around you?
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  Speaker 4: And we've seen him in the fourth quarter shine. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes in the first two quarter it doesn't work. But
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  Speaker 4: my argument to him was, because we spoke for a while,
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  Speaker 4: I said, well, wouldn't a run game help that, wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: a run game settle him down? Because he talks about
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  Speaker 4: how he gets a little antsy in the pocket and
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  Speaker 4: this and that. Sometimes that's your the benefits you. Sometimes
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  Speaker 4: that's your greatest strength. My argument as to why bon
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  Speaker 4: Nicks is better than people think is because many times
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  Speaker 4: he had to serve as the Broncos run game and
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  Speaker 4: passing game. Hell, in that divisional playoff against the Buffalo Bills,
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  Speaker 4: he was a leading rusher and passer.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of yeah, I just.
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  Speaker 2: There is a level of consistency that has been lacking
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  Speaker 2: in both of his first two years that is frustrating,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know what to totally attribute that to.
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  Speaker 2: Like would a running game help. Of course, I think
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  Speaker 2: it would help. But there's also just like when he
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  Speaker 2: said that he escapes clean pockets. I witnessed that a lot. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: early in the season.
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  Speaker 4: I think it got for bettered, right, Yeah, And all
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  Speaker 4: you have to do is step up rather than step out.
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  Speaker 3: And we actually had this discussion.
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  Speaker 2: There was a week that we put a side by
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  Speaker 2: side of him leaving a clean pocket and it was
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. I think Stafford had like a game
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  Speaker 2: winning touchdown that week and he stayed in the pocket,
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  Speaker 2: took the hit, but made the throw to win the game.
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  Speaker 2: And the question is this, because I don't have the answer,
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  Speaker 2: and what do you think on this? I'll ask it
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  Speaker 2: to you now after the season is over. Sure, is
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  Speaker 2: that antseness that he has in the pocket, something that's
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  Speaker 2: just in his game where he feels confident in his
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  Speaker 2: feet that he can make a play in the move.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Or is that Sean Payton being so in his head
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  Speaker 2: about you cannot take sacks because they will kill drives
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  Speaker 2: that he has that constantly rolling through his goal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great point. You know, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 4: it helps him and it hurts him at the same time,
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  Speaker 4: I would rather have it that way than the other
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  Speaker 4: way around. I'd rather have an anti quarter who's proven
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  Speaker 4: you can get out of message, then the guy who
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  Speaker 4: can't move.
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  Speaker 3: Like Caleb Williams takes a lot of sacks and it
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  Speaker 3: drives Ben Johnson knuts well.
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  Speaker 4: Caleb Williams had the play of the year in which
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  Speaker 4: he ran backwards thirty yards.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: You know what, It's probably the reason, a huge reason
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: why Shodour Sanders was a fifth round pick. Yeah, because
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: he takes a lot of sacks like they are drive killers.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: At the same time, if you have a clean pocket,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: stay in it, step up and make a throw. And
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: that's where I think some of the inconsistencies come in
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: with him. But yeah, that I think it was such
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a great way that Cosell put it of. Just there's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: an ants ness to his game. But it's like, I
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: think that can be cured.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I do. I think that antseness the time. Yeah, exactly.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: The more you live in that environment, the more you
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: live in that pocket, the more you because that antsenist
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: also allows him to do things that the quarterback can't
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: because he has the talent to do so.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Right that said it, vict he likes him, but he
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't like him.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: That was a weird uh, But I heard the same No.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I think the same thing.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just like, we've been in the middle of that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: vic where it's like three straight quarters where you're scoring
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: three points, Like, dude, what the hell is going on
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: with this offense? And then they get twenty one put
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: up in the fourth and like, I guess it's okay.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It's what's so confusing when you look at just the
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: raw numbers of bo Nicks and you're trying to compute, like,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: all right, you put this side by side with another
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: quarterback and what their numbers are, and I tell you
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that bo Nicks finishes finished this season with twenty five
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: touchdowns and eleven interceptions, four thousand yards passing rounding up.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, it's a decent year for a quarterback,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: but it all it came in a very odd way.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think the key point that Cosell made and
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I was not aware of this either, he has the
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: most dropbacks of any quarterback in the NFL. I mean
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: think about that for a second. That means there's a
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: bigger body of the valuation because he's he's back there
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: at the the blitz every single time he does it
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: more than anybody. And there are quarterbacks who just hand
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: it off, hand it off, then throw hand it off
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: handa that's not him. He's back there dealing with everybody
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Like, how would you feel, Vick if the Nuggets had
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: somebody and I don't think they do. I was thinking
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: maybe Jamal, but it's not Jamal. If they had somebody
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that through three quarters would be two of thirteen shooting
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the basketball for five points. But in the fourth quarter,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: like every single game, he put up seventeen. And it's like, oh,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: he's averaging. He's averaging twenty two points a night. What's
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the problem. It's like, well, how he gets there is
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: the problem.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know in this roundabout way. We've seen like
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Murray flurries where he's, yeah, he's sort of inactive and
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, boom, he goes crazy. We've
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: seen that, sure.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: But it's like there's a frustration with it, but you
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: appreciate that when it matters the most, the guy knocks
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: down the shot or the guy makes the throw. Like
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: it's a very confused evaluation.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: To him this much. I know, say what you want
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: about bo and I'm not trying to again. I feel
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: bad doing it because Jared Stidham had not attempted to
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: pass in a game in two years. But if you
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: put him in that situation Stidham was in or it's
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: third and whatever, Yeah, he drops back to throw a
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: screen pass. Bo's not doing that. No, Bo's not going
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: to turn that over. I don't know what he ends
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: up doing there, finds a way to throw it away,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe pivots the other side of the field. I don't know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: but that's not happening. It bow.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's it's like people were we didn't really talk about this.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I was surprised at how surprised people were that Stidham
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: didn't look good. It felt like people were like, oh
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: my god, Like he's your backup quarterback.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: That's crazy to.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Throw a pass in two years.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: But it's are we really that shocked that the backup
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback looked worse than the starter.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: That's how it goes. But on top of that, it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: just the length of time between games. Yeah, it's one thing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: We've seen backups come in and shine. They've had a
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: ample opportunity to play. They've had reps in actual games.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: This guy hasn't. It was asking too much in hindsight,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: you know what it was asking too much?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Well, they had to do it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Bo was out, he had he had to play. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I mean this is where you go back to what
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you've been saying all off season. Vic, It's like you
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: have a running game that can help out a backup quarterback.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It certainly could have changed things if you had somebody
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: that you trusted in the backfield, would have made it
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: more comfortable at least.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Well, case in point, when Sam Donald had an oblique
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: issue and they had to shoot him up, and you watched.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That here, Kenneth Walker. Here, Kenneth Walker.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Here, Kenneth Walker, Kenneth exactly how many times did he
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: throw the ball in that blow out win? Go back
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and look look at Donald's numbers. What do you throw
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: it like fourteen times?
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: And he's done that a lot this year. Actually didn't
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: have to.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Let's just keep turning around, hand it off. Makes that
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: a hell of a lot easier for your quarterback to shine. Uh.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: He was twelve of seventeen throwing the football Tenneth Walker
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: had nineteen carries. They ran the ball thirty three times overall,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: And say about that Sam Donald threw the ball seventeen.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Think about those numbers, So you're forty one to six.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: You're telling me that the running back, the primary running back,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: ran it more times in your quarterback attempted to throws.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: How many times did that happen to the Broncos in
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: the last three years? I would guess none. Never, none.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Don't even have to look. I can't remember the last
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: time that the Broncos have achieved that where a running
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: back carries the ball more times in a quarterback throws it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: In fact, I'll no, you have to go back to
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: the championship season before that happened a few times during
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: the Tebow era, that doesn't happen, Nope. That's when you're
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: confident that you can gain yards through the run game.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: That's when that's when your run game is dominant.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: So going back to yesterday the trade deadline, by the way,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: if you didn't see what the Nuggets did, they traded
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Hunter Tyson too the Brooklyn Nets, who immediately waved him.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It was just a salary dump deal. Brooklyn was happy
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to oblige, but that opened a roster spot so that
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you could convert the two way contract of Spencer Jones
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: into a full time contract.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: By the way, hunter Tyson has since been released by
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the Brooklyn Nets. Yes, did this just happen or did
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: it happen right after.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: The No, No, it was right afterwards. That's why I said.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They traded him to the Nets, and the Nets waved
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: them almost immediately.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It's a tough business, man, I've gotten a no Hunter obviously,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: it's a tough, tough business.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: He was kind of the only guy who wasn't playing though,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: outside of Doron Holmes. Yeah, like all the other guys,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: like whether they play or not consistently, like, he was
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: getting almost no run.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: You know, I'll give him his love though. Man. He
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: had that one shiny moment this year in Philly, remember
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: the game against Phillies. Yeah, and he had that four
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: point play that helped bring them back. They were down
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: by nine, they look like they're gonna lose. All of
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: a sudden, he hits a three, gets found four point
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: play and they start their rally.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Who's gonna take the mantle?
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Now?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: As the Denver nugget, who if they touch the basketball,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: they're shooting it because it was hunter Tyson, And then
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: it was what was it, Marcus Howard?
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Was that his name?
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Marcus Howard, I'll say it's well, it's hard away. Yeah. Well,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I mean I've got I've touched the bench guys.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But that opens up a roster spot, not
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: just to convert Spencer Jones two way contract into a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: full time contract. It leaves them money where they're still
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: under the tax.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And it's not because they're being cheap.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: It's because they need to find somebody in the buyout
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: market and this allows you to do it. And the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: reason you need a guy from the buyout market is
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: not even for the playoffs.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: It's to get you to the playoffs.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. You make such a good point here because people
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: have to understand the buyout market for what it is.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: If you're looking, if you're shopping the buyout market for
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: somebody to help you in the playoffs, you don't have
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: the right roster to win a championship, then I mean,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: what are you doing If if your buyout market options
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: are people that you think are going to help you
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: win an NBA title, then what the hell? You're not
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: even in that position. The buyout market is going to
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: help you sort of make way to get there and
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: just fix the back end of your rotation, don't I
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: don't think I know anyone that's available in this buyout
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: market that can make the Nuggets playoff rotation.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: You tell me no, And it's not the point. The
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: point is this, you're still hurt bad. You got two
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: guys that are trying to recover from injuries on the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: fly right now in Christian Brown and Nicola Jokic.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Sure, and they're still fixing their way to get there.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: And that's why identify the person you need. Think about
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: the two guys that are And we have no information
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: yet on Peyton Watson, but I have a feeling it's
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: gonna sound something like reevaluating four to six weeks.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: I have a feeling's gonna sound something like that. He's
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: a three who could play for He's a forward essentially,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon is your power forward. Those are the two
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: key guys you're missing. Now. Where do you find one
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: of those on the buyout market?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need somebody who's like six foot eight who
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: can do something. I don't know, don't have a great
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: answer for it. Somebody threw this name out there, vic.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the case or not.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Chris Middleton.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: Shooter score, it's not huge but he.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Is six foot seven. I mean, could you stretch him
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: into something like that?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Can you ever have a scores? I guess I'll never say.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: No.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: What a score? Cam Griffin is a score?
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: But this is the buyout market.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, you aren't going to have a name where
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: you're like, yes, we got him.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: It's just gotta be somebody that you can trust.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: Listen, we're shopping now at Dollar General. Yeah, this is
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: like this is that that phone cord that you get
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: a Dollogen. Man, you can't help the price is great,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: but the cord's gonna go out in about three days.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And just for the record of why this is important,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: you were only one game up on Houston, LA. In Minnesota,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: who were the four, five, and six seeds. You were
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: two games up on Phoenix, who is the seventh seed.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That's the razors margin that you're on between being a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: three seed and being in the play in.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: What's sad about this is that one week ago the
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Nuggets had a four game ahead over a lot of
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: those teams. Yeah, the Nuggets were like sitting pretty just
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: a week ago making a move like wow, look at this.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: They're in second place. They're above San Antonio and then
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: they lose three out of four when Joker returns. That's
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: what's hard for me to stomach, is like, Okay, you
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: get the guy back, and then you go backwards right now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: The schedule didn't help because you had three games that
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: are among the three toughest games in succession. You'll have
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: all year, Okay, Seed Detroit and then New York kind
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: of back to back. And I think that Knicks game. Dude, again,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I of all three of those games, should have won
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: that game.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh had that game.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, too many things, too many circumstances. Losing Peyton
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Watson sucked, frankly, losing Spencer Jones could have used him
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: down the stretch. Yep, you're you're you're rolling there with
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: guys that are just dead tired.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Just to defend you on this, I think you said
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Cam Griffin. Did you mean Cam Thomas? Yeah? Yeah, Cam
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Griffin is a developed coach for the Nuggets. Yeah, sign
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: him up. Camp Thomas, who's a shooter and that's all
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you know somebody does.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: But he's he's a guard. Like, I don't know if
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: you need it. You have you have guards, totally agree.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I I don't know if you need him because unless
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: he shoots so lights out that he's gonna who's he
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: gonna take job from? In there? In in the playoffs? Who? Yeah, way,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: where's he gonna play? He's play heead of Tim Hardaway?
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Where's he playing?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you which. Which news hurt? And it's been
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: a wat since we said this guy's name. But I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: saw our boy, Yabacelli got traded and I was like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: see that's something I could eat.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I haven't heard his name all year, dude, and we
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: were like knocking on the door, saying, where can we
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: get a Yebacelli. He hadn't done anything I want.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I want that giant behind. Okay, that's what I want.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted that here. When you ask what has he
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: done this season, he's done nothing. He's averaged three points
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: per game, that's what he's done.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: So it could have been cheap. That's why I wanted
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: the guy.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway, they gotta find out some sort of some sort
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: of big I think is the key here.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: You are damned if you do damned if you don't.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: In the NBA. And I couldn't help but think about this.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: So the Nuggets have lost three or four since Joker returned.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: And you know, once they get healthy, they take another
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: step back. Peyton Watson goes out and here we go again.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: But they get through the month of January with literally scraps, right, scraps.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: They got nothing, They're just they're just surviving. They're in
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: survival mode. And they get through the month of January
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: with ten wins. That's unreal to me. Then they get
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: somewhat healthy and they start to lose again. Basketball is
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: such a crazy game. It's such a you gotta find
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: your stride, you gotta find your rhythm when the guys
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: come back. And that's what concerns me about the long
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: term health of AG. Now Peyton Watson, Wills can take
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: it all time, will they have enough time to find
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: it again? Look at the Charlotte Hornets, Dude, they've won
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: eight in a row and they've they've thrown out the
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: same lineup every time. It's the same guys, and they're
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: starting to ball. They get to know each other, and man,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: they got rhythm. When the Nuggets win a championship, the
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: same starting lineup for twenty straight games in that playoff run,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: the same lineup. Nobody got hurt, nothing changed, and you
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: saw what it did.
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• 31:30
  Speaker 2: getting more and more.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Upset, like I just just put.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Another sort of coin in the piggy bank. For another reason,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: why I can't stand New England fans. I every time
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: I get on Twitter, VIC it's some Patriot fan that's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: blaming Dan Orlovski for Stafford winning the MVP over Drake
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: May And I really don't get it. There are twenty
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: three other first place votes for Stafford number one, number two.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Why are they pretending that Stafford was like an undeserving
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: candidate that jumped there. He had forty six touchdowns and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: eight picks.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Bro, you won coach of the Year and assistant coach
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: of the Year. What more do you want? Calm down
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: when the ball got knocked out of Drake May's handw.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's crazy to me, crazy and I just I don't
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: get it, Like, are you gonna sit here and pretend
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: a damn near five thousand yard, forty six touchdown in
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: eight interception season isn't a remarkable year.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: It's a special breed of fan. I told you it's
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I and I have a I've always had a problem
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: with Boston fan and I'm sorry, but even they know
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: they're they're that way. We're sitting where we're set up
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: right now, we are literally right in front of what
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: is that Jesse Patriots television? What is that? Is that?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: What that is? Guy came up to me two days
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: ago and we introduced ourselves because they're right next to us,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: and he goes, oh, yeah, you're that guy because he
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: recognized me from the hat incident after the AFC Championship.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Apparently it's a big thing in Boston. But they're
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: special people. They're a special breed of fans, and I
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: don't not my cup of tea.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: That is that is crazy. That accent that pops out
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: of d max mouth.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I mean that was just unsolicited, too, right, Tom Brady.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Here, By the way, the Pro Football Hall of Fame
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Class of twenty twenty six was announced yesterday. The people
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: who are going to be inducted are Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Luke Chickley.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Young, Adam Vinettieri, and Roger Craig.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: Do you agree with me that the best video that
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: emerges during Super Bowl Week is the knocking on the
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: door of the Hall of Famers when they're told, have
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: you seen.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: What is that gigantic man's name?
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Oh he's no longer. No, no, no, no, he retired
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. No he's it's not him anymore.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: They just have fellow Hall of Famers, like Larry Fitzgerald
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: was told by Randy Moss, and they have different people
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: for different guys. At Roger Craig's house, I think it
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: was Ronnie Lott who knocked on his door. It's just
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: so cool when you when you get that story out
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: and you see the emotion in being told that, and
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: when people wonder what's a big deal about Hall of
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Fame and this? It's it's the emotion that it carries
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: with it, which is why it's so important to honor
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: these guys while they're still with us. You know what
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: good does it do when they're not? What are you
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: waiting for? I mean what you know when when guys
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: going posthumously, I think it's sad. It's almost like a waste.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: What are we doing? This allows them to cherish that
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: their family to celebrate with them. If they didn't qualify
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: twenty years ago, why are they qualify now? What are
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: we waiting for? Why is there a limit? So stupid?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: You really upset me.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: By telling me that David Baker, who is six foot nine,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: four hundred pounds, is no longer doing these videos.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: That would have intimidated a crap out of me if
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: he showed up at my door.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I want to thank you for all you've done for
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: the game, what you did for the game, and what
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you will do for the game.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I missed that guy, you know what, Nelly? Look him up?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Is he on Cameo? I want him just to say
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: that to me personally.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: You know what shock he had to do. If he's
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: not worry for the Hall of Fame. If anybody ever
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: needs to be fired at our station, have that guy
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Nelly, find me a YouTube video of that guy introduced.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I don't care who it is that he introduced the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or announced you what they were getting
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I need to hear him say that line. I have
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: to hear it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: If I have a choice. The guy that I want
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: to fire me.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Is Altitude Sports Radio. Loves football.
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: I want him to go.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But he's puny, stude nobody.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: He's a scrit But when you got six foot fifteen
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: inch David Baker looking at you, you're not doing anything, dude.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at take it. I'm looking at it. All
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I googled was huge Hall of Fame guy him standing
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: behind What is this?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Who is this?
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: He's standing behind somebody. He looks like he's three of him.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, what a massive individual. That's the guy you
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: want knocking on your door.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Well he's gone. He's no longer part of the equation.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: So well, that's a big bummer for the Hall of Fame.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: You know what, It's not real to me anymore.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: How about Luke Keikley the second youngest Hall of Famer
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: ever because his career ended early. Man he tapped out,
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: he said he's done. You know he had Was he
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: the one with concussion issues or did he just decide
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: he was done.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think people truly understand how much of a
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: monster Luke Keighley was. He was just a tackle machine
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: every single year vic of his career. Again, short career,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: but eight years.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: He was an AP first team All Pro.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: In six of the eight seasons that he played, or
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: seven of the eight No, six of the eight, six
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: of the eight like, and he was a second teamer
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: in the other two. Every year he was like the
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: best linebacker in football from his rookie year to his
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: final season in the league, and it was cut short
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: due to head injuries, which sucks.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, every every year these Hall of
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Fame classes are unleashed, unveiled. I'm always like, yeah, he
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: deserves it, Yeah he's great. Oh yeah, I mean I
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: have no problem with anybody, right, And you could double
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: the size of these Hall of Fame classes, you could
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: triple the size, and that'd be the same way. I'd
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: be like, yeah, okay.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Can you name by the way, because he is a
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: very young player. That is in the players with the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: fewest the games play to be elected to the Hall
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: of Fame.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can name two of them. Torell Davis, Gale Sayers.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: TD is not on my list for this, but yes,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: you're right, Dale Sayers is he had sixty eight games played,
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that was it. Ernie Nevers fifty four is the fewest.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Fifty four games.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Well, that's back when they had three game regular seasons.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Now they're looking at eighteen game regular seasons, so it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: a little different.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: True, yeah, it is.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: You know, all these that's the other thing about football,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: every sport really more games in a regular season, more
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: time played. All these records for years that have stood,
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: you know, quarterback records, team records, what what do they
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: actually mean anymore? If you keep adding to the schedule.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: What's the point when a thousand yard rusher meant something?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: What's the point today? You can get a thousand yards
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: halfway through the damn season.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It's crazy, though, Vic, there is a record that I
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: think is gonna be unbreakable unless we really shift back
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to old school football. Nobody's breaking EMT Smith's career rushing.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Record, well, nobody's gonna last that long, you're right.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and nobody's gonna get enough care.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not in today's game. No, that's a good point.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: But even with these extra games, like, I don't think
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: it's gonna matter.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: So when the Broncos are making a run at the
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: team sack record, right, well yeah, I mean you had
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: an extra game, But then again, didn't Chicago who held
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: that record. They benefited when they went from fourteen to
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: sixteen games. Yeah. Every generation of football player benefits from
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: added games.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: That's why I think NFL milestones. That's why baseball it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: such a cherished sport when it comes to their numbers
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: because they've only had one major schedule change.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Who's sorry, what do you think baseball base.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Poles only had one major schedule change. All these other
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: sports they sort of inch up. They do things. In
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the NBA points when you added the three point line,
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: you're basically saying, here's more points.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: You're right.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Let me hear my guy, who is he talking to here?
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: This one was when he was telling Randy Moss he
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: gets a gold jack.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Come on, David Banker, bring it to Randy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 9: On behalf of the Pro Football Hall of Fan on,
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: behalf of your fellow Hall of famers, on, behalf of
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: all of us who love the game.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: It's my privilege to welcome you to Canton, Ohio.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: It's my privilege.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, he gave it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: He give us a little Jerry Jones there, Did you
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: hear that?
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to say it to him, not
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: gonna say it.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: He seems like a very kind man.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: My privilege.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: By the way, I heard you about to attempt your
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Jerry Jones. It sounded a little bit like Sean Connery
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: even in the millisecond that you tried to do that.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Shannon Jones, I'm not a good impressionist man. That's not
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: my strength here. My strength is finding interviews. That's it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: That's what I get.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: That's all I can do for you.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Well, find David Baker. He's got to be around there somewhere.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: If he's here, I will find him. By the way,
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: somebody on the text line asked me, what was the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: best interview you've gotten all week? Yeah, there's so many
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: to count from from potential interviews, but for me personally,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: there are two that stand out. The Golden Bachelor. Yeah, who,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: By the way, won't leave us alone. Now, Jesse saw
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: like he thinks Jesse's his best friend.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Well he's probably I'll tell you guys what. You're probably
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the only person that recognized him.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Well, you're probably right, but it's it's truly remarkable when
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: you see a guy and you keep seeing him time
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: and time again. He's won the second one yesterday and
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: it was my I got him. I was like fanboying.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I couldn't start. It was Jeremiah Love who was making
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: the rounds the Notre Dame running back and I saw
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: him briefly talk to him briefly.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that interview. Here's what it sounded like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: you so much. Yeah, you brought so much joy to
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: me this year. Thank you so much. It was thank you.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: The more I looked at it and I'm like, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: put it online, I was like, I don't know why
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: I posted that because it makes me look so stupid,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: but you know, it's real.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: It sounded like I talked to a Blue one of
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: the Blue Angels pilots. You know those guys that do
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: all the crazy airplane stunts. Yeah, I remember when I
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: talked to him. I felt like Chris Farley in that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: SNL skit. I was just like, do you uh, do
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you like it when the planes go fast?
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I just think it's the cruelest thing in the world. Yeah,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I turned into a five year old.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I couldn't help myself one bit. And I don't.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: I don't deny it, and it is what it is.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: But I will ask you this, if the Denver Broncos
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: somehow had a shot to move up.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: In the I love it. They won't, but I love it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: But but would you like that? Would you? Yes?
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Of course I would.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah love it. I brought this up yesterday with the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: PhD guys and d Max. You can get a bunch
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: of those guys. I go, no, you can't, No, you can't.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: I can't quit. You know. I hate it when people
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: keep saying that the same.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: I want to get when we come back, because that
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: is it's such an insane thing to say, and it's
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: such an archaic way of thinking. For offensive football in the NFL,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: it's about like football Friday. We'll get to it next