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More People Die as You Get Older: Facing That Reality | Episode 471 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hi everyone, it's Justin here of Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 0:12
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• 0:16
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• 0:20
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• 0:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We cover everything underlying mental health and trauma and recovery.
• 0:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh that's the underpinning of our entire existence.
• 0:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So everything we uh discuss and talk about, easy topics, hard topics, uh, it all is uh all ties back to mental health.
• 1:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's because I have mental illnesses.
• 1:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I have a few, um, which if you've been with us from the beginning or caught any of our other episodes, you would know you you may have picked up that at some point in time.
• 1:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and so that's very important to remember uh is that mental health, trauma, recovery from addiction, uh, from a traumatic experience, maybe a car wreck.
• 1:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I don't know.
• 1:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's so many things that cause uh trauma in ourselves, in our brains.
• 1:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh we we just want to welcome each and every one of you.
• 2:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we are over this is this episode uh is over 470.
• 2:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So just think about that for a minute.
• 2:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just getting kind of goosebumps as I'm saying this, because you know, we we we set goals, we set ideas, what we'd like to do, and and we do.
• 2:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We want to help and reach at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond, and we're well on our way to doing that.
• 2:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's because of you, it's not because of me.
• 2:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just uh uh uh like inner intermediary, I guess you would you would say, uh bringing content.
• 2:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Some uh the topics are easy, some of them are hard.
• 2:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, some touch close to home, some uh may uh may go into pop culture and and and other areas.
• 2:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and we're reaching people not just here in the United States, but across the world, and that's just miraculous uh to me.
• 3:06
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• 3:09
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• 3:17
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• 3:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, we're we're just happy to be able to be able to do this.
• 3:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and and so that's why we have over 470 episodes of the show.
• 3:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so we're gonna be touching on for this particular episode, uh, we're gonna be touching on uh a few different topics and uh as they relate to my mental health specifically, and uh it and and we may, depending on time, may get into another topic or two.
• 4:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: First, I want to uh I I I just want to send uh not send, I want to pray for everybody who's ever lost somebody uh to heaven uh that's passed away.
• 4:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um no matter the reason, uh that the reason does not it does not matter.
• 4:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that's something that as I've grown up, I've I think I've matured a little bit in that in that respect.
• 4:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That you know, when we get down to our our final days and we get down to people we know, whether it's as close to us as uh a child, uh a spouse, uh brother, sister, aunt, uncle, cousin, first cousin, second cousin.
• 5:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When we get down to these, I'll call them, you know, the you know, the final days, we don't we've talked about this where what do we want to be remembered for?
• 5:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, but I don't want to talk about that so much uh as I want to talk about just the feeling and and the emotions of of what what's going on what goes on.
• 5:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um the one of the reasons I want to address this uh again or in this specific way, I guess.
• 5:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I talk about a a lot about my dad, and I share experiences and stories, and uh you know nobody can replace a parent uh that just can't.
• 5:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um and so I guess as the years go on, that you know, the more days that we live for or we wake up to other days, additional days, I mean, uh as I've found out, one of the things about growing a little bit older, you know, being in my forties now, it seems that more and more people are are passing away.
• 6:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And right, I mean none of us get out of here alive.
• 6:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, I've mentioned this a lot, and I will continue to mention it because we don't.
• 6:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: None of us are getting out of life alive, okay?
• 6:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so why somebody passes away, I'm not gonna pass judgment like I would have so easily in previous times of my life.
• 7:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I don't know if it's because of you losing a parent for me or or what, but it's just hard, man.
• 7:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like I remember uh one one of the the organizations I I worked for for a period of time, their uh a loved one, it was either a loved one or a spouse, had passed away uh unexpectedly, unexpectedly, and the calling hours visitation, I think was held maybe during lunch or was right after work, somehow, some way.
• 8:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so, you know, there's talk talk around the office, and it's like I didn't know this person personally, but they're close, they were close to somebody I w was working with.
• 8:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I remember going to the visitation, and and I don't I don't do very well uh this type of stuff.
• 8:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know, I don't know who does.
• 8:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I mean how can you know somebody get used to death and I I don't I don't know.
• 8:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I know the clergy, uh you know, they they do to an extent.
• 8:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but I went to this visitation and I I didn't know the person and you know you're in the re you're in the line to uh you know give the condolences to the the family and say, oh you know I'm uh I work with so and so and and it's hard.
• 9:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it wasn't even somebody I was related to and I never met before.
• 9:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so it it's hard.
• 9:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The older you get, and the more and more people that are passing away.
• 9:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I've said my piece on on these COVID shots.
• 9:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we have paramedic uh Harry Fisher on uh a couple a couple of episodes.
• 9:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He shared what he saw and continues to see as a paramedic.
• 10:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: People want to say he has an agenda.
• 10:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think he actually has a heart.
• 10:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think that's I think that's what people don't want to see.
• 10:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He he shares what he sees, and so it's a fact to him.
• 10:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And in good faith, he's sharing facts of what he has and what he has seen as a paramedic.
• 10:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I I can't help but think that the shots, these COVID shots.
• 10:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, we're given immunity to these big corporations and companies making profits with so much money.
• 11:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll never ever ever see the money these organizations will be paying to employees, to executives.
• 11:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I'm with Harry on this.
• 11:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We've had we had him on quite a while ago, so we're gonna have to you know do a search on that the those two episodes that we did.
• 11:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I believe we did two.
• 11:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but I can't help but be with him, at least just on opinion.
• 11:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And regardless of who I'm with on on opinion, doesn't matter.
• 11:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I have my own thoughts.
• 11:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I think there's a lot of good evidence to back it up that a lot more people are dying faster, meaning sooner.
• 11:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So what the average I don't I don't even know what the average age is of yeah, you know, people living.
• 12:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But it's going down, the numbers going down.
• 12:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So Bill Gates and all these people touting these vaccines, what they say are vaccines, which I didn't know so many vac I didn't know so many people to get these turbo cancers, like my dad, didn't get stage one, didn't get stage two, didn't get stage three, he got stage four, and he got less than a year to live.
• 12:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He's in his 70s, he's not in his 80s, not in his 90s, it wasn't in his 90s.
• 12:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's so many other people that have and are dealing with these turbo cancers where Zoom or whatever goes straight to straight to the last stage and it can't do anything.
• 13:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, you can kind of treat it and it's like you know, a little more life, a few more days, maybe a couple weeks or three.
• 13:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't know.
• 13:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not a I'm not a medical person, I'm just a human being that has an opinion.
• 13:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I'm allowed to have an opinion.
• 13:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's called the First Amendment, which a lot of people want to try to take away from me in our show and our organization, but I'm a U.S.
• 13:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: citizen.
• 13:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So, born and raised in the United States of America, so the First Amendment colors me.
• 13:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm allowed to say what I like within means and good faith, and that's what I'm doing.
• 13:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just so just as much as you are.
• 13:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And if you don't like what I have to say, turn it off.
• 14:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just do it.
• 14:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't care.
• 14:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't, we don't, I don't have people who have a conscience who have common sense that are with us.
• 14:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We're not gonna agree on politics and and and everything.
• 14:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But if it bothers you so much that I'm talking about this, just turn it off.
• 14:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Please just do that.
• 14:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's gonna help your health, and and frankly, it's gonna help my health.
• 14:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because I'm gonna know as I do, as we continue, the more and more followers, more and more people are people that are just human beings, and we're entitled to our opinions in the First Amendment.
• 14:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I bring this up and I bring, you know, the talk about death and losing a loved one, what no matter how whether again, you're super close or whether you might not be very close and anywhere in between.
• 15:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I got word a couple days ago uh that my an individual on my dad's side of family had passed away due to a a form of cancer.
• 15:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know all the ins and outs of it.
• 15:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't I don't know what how it all progressed and start I don't I don't know that.
• 15:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I I I'm not gonna form an opinion on that.
• 16:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm gonna talk about the mental health of that as being related.
• 16:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're not me I'm not the individuals in our family.
• 16:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh it it goes into it's more into my as far as like my dad uh a cousin first cousin, second cousin uh of my dad.
• 16:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I've met him many times over the years.
• 16:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um I remember when I was trying to, you know, be a better golfer, or at least be able to hit the ball more than and hit it somewhat straight uh that he he he is pretty good at golf.
• 17:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I did a few lessons with him and he was kind.
• 17:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I don't I don't know every everything about, and I'm not gonna claim to know everything about his life.
• 17:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just talking at the top line.
• 17:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This individual I've met is dad's cousin, and he passed away.
• 17:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He passed away recently.
• 17:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're gonna have to I can't believe this.
• 17:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is a first where we have gotten a storm alert in the middle of a show.
• 17:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We've had a lot of things, folks.
• 17:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We've had all kinds of all kinds of uh in fact uh Lucy is on my shoulders as we uh as as we speak.
• 18:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And uh, but yeah, I you know get these, you know, storm watches certain times of year and uh thor watches mornings, tornado watches morning, all these things that ha happen uh and you know just kind of alerting.
• 18:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it is something that's something that's new that uh we we're going through.
• 18:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So congratulations, Justin.
• 18:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You've just been uh just had a storm alert go on in the middle of one of your shows.
• 18:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It doesn't matter, it's life.
• 18:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is what I'm talking about.
• 18:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This is like life just happens, and you just have to do the best that you can, and sometimes things are gonna go a little bit smoother, and sometimes they're not gonna go smooth at times.
• 19:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so getting back to yeah, so uh an individual in an extended family passed away, don't know that all the ins and outs of it, and I don't need need to I I I don't need need to.
• 19:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I'm not I I I I don't don't need to know all the all I know is that this this person um is no longer on earth, no longer living with us.
• 19:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And there's people including not just him, he passed away, but there's family members that are being affected by that.
• 19:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, we talk about people that end it and their life uh by suit die by suicide, and that they're not just impacting their themselves, that it's their families, and there's a lot of people that get impacted.
• 20:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um just like when my dad passed away, uh there was and still is, it's just you know, people that are impacted uh outside of even just our immediate family.
• 20:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh so yeah, I remember, you know, we get some golf lessons, going to some graduation parties over the years.
• 20:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh he did pay his respects when my dad had passed away.
• 20:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh he waited in the the the super long line.
• 20:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh took a couple hours for people to get through.
• 20:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think we had to extend the the amount of time because and it it was just incredible to see people just money in the county just give a hug or just just to be there.
• 21:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and some of them, some of those individuals may not have met my dad, just like some of the individuals with my dad's cousin may not have met him that go to his uh visitation, calling hours, however you want to call it, uh, in uh funeral mass uh and such.
• 21:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but anyway, so there's a little bit of that on my mental health, so it's not as much as when my my dad passed away and how what I'm going through still, and I'm I'll never stop loving my dad, never forget him ever, ever, ever.
• 21:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like that's just not happening.
• 22:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I'm always going to be going through some kind of mental mental health issues.
• 22:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't say issues, but challenges.
• 22:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I think we all do.
• 22:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just whether we want to talk about it or not.
• 22:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I'm deciding to talk about it.
• 22:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: A lot of people don't.
• 22:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's okay.
• 22:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't get a sticker or anything because I'm talking about it.
• 22:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just talking about it because I think there's people that may need to hear some of what is and has gone on as it pertains to this specific topic.
• 22:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So this individual or family pass away.
• 22:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so it kind of brings back a little bit of well, not a little bit, but death, right?
• 23:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we're born, we live, and then we we die, we pass away, we live this, leave this earth, earthly uh place called earth.
• 23:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Say that fast.
• 23:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't uh I'm just a human, so I make mistakes.
• 23:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I just wanted to talk about that, that anybody that is going through or has gone through situations like this that you know you're you're not alone.
• 23:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh uh other unfortunately, a lot lot of a lot of people have gone through this, and we just do the best we can.
• 23:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's that's basically all all we all we can do in these situations.
• 24:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's yeah, you can probably find a handbook on, well, if you do this, you'll feel this way.
• 24:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If you do this, this will help out.
• 24:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It doesn't when you're in the moment, none of that's you throw all that stuff out the window.
• 24:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It doesn't matter.
• 24:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When you're in the moment, I'm not, yeah, I'm not, and I don't think you are gonna go pick up a book.
• 24:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're gonna wanna be with the people that you love, that you're you know, your your family, if it's a friend, if it's coworker, or if that you're gonna want to be with be with them and do what you can.
• 24:46
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I'm gonna situate this camera here a little bit, a little bit better here, so I can because I got a I got a 6.4 pound dog on my shoulders here.
• 25:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I have to make sure that I here we go.
• 25:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Go there go down there.
• 25:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh yeah.
• 25:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's that's kind of been uh as of late that's that that's gone on.
• 25:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh I also get to pick up my psychiatrist after a little bit of time away.
• 25:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh from I mean, there's not gonna get into the the reason why that that's not important.
• 25:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh but I still have been going to counseling and I've found that it's help helped and it's helping.
• 25:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's again, that's what I'm doing.
• 26:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know what you I don't know if that's something you need.
• 26:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If somebody you know needs needs that.
• 26:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know.
• 26:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't I I just share what what's going on over here.
• 26:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then there you go.
• 26:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Now you can see that I wasn't I wasn't trying to pull a fast one that I said I do have a 6.4 pound uh puppy on my shoulders on my back.
• 26:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's where Lucy likes to hang out, she likes to take her afternoon snoozes, and then we have in pop culture Tiger Woods, and so I've seen him many times.
• 26:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We've I've I mean I haven't met him in person, but we've seen him at golf tournaments in the area uh and so we've seen him over the years a lot playing golf on the PGA tour.
• 27:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They I think it's for Professional Golf Association PGA, I think that's it.
• 27:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then they go to they they go to like a senior PGA tour.
• 27:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't know if it's age 50.
• 27:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know.
• 27:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's a certain age where uh you can play certain events, I think, on the regular PGA tour, uh, but then you mostly I think have to play on the senior uh PGA.
• 27:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Anyways, uh 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
• 27:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't I don't know where Tiger was dri he was driving.
• 28:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He was coming from somewhere to go somewhere at 2 p.m.
• 28:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: in the afternoon.
• 28:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know all the specifics.
• 28:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know if he just got back from an overseas trip.
• 28:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I you know, and has jet had jet light.
• 28:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't I don't know.
• 28:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: All I know is that he was leaving somewhere and he was going somewhere, and somewhere in that span, he flipped his car or SEV.
• 28:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He got out, I think, unscathed physically.
• 28:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and he's charged with a DUI not for alcohol because the alcohol uh test came out zero 0.00.
• 29:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so there are medications that he he may be taking, and he's had a lot of surgeries, a lot of repairs to different parts of his body so you can play golf.
• 29:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh also know that Tiger has a lot of money.
• 29:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And try not to talk about the the money aspect too often.
• 29:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: However, in this this case, uh he's been a lot, he's been through a lot of personally with uh divorce and just a lot of a lot of real personal relationship um things that he's been got he's gone through through the years, not to mention, you know, the physical injuries, um but he has a brand.
• 30:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so he has earned a lot of money over the years, and so I can't for the life of me, I can't understand why somebody who has a lot of money, and I'm not talking about a hundred thousand or a million, I'm talking about I don't know, pardon me, a couple hundred million.
• 30:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't know.
• 30:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know what kind of royalties he's getting for different uh you know, different companies.
• 30:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They hire people for you know commercials so people will go buy their products and services and such.
• 31:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I don't I don't I don't know any of that.
• 31:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just know there's a lot of money and he's been injured a lot as he played golf from an early age and he he got injured you know over the years.
• 31:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Things just got to the point where they caught you know his health and body, you know, injuries and things caught up with with him.
• 31:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So for the life of me, I can't think of why he would be driving, I guess is what I'm getting at.
• 31:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He has the money.
• 31:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 31:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't have I don't want to say like throwaway money like he does.
• 31:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I guess I do.
• 31:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I do want to say that.
• 31:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't have throwaway money like Tiger Woods does, even after all he's gone through.
• 32:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't have that ability to do that.
• 32:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Otherwise, I would do I would be getting a ride, right?
• 32:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Whether it's an Uber or I mean over the years, he's probably taken hundreds or thousands of limousines and you know, private, you know, private with private security and and all these things, and I just can't get over the fact that a person like him who already had been in an accident when he a few years ago in California.
• 32:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think he was driving to like a commercial shoot, film, shoot.
• 32:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They were gonna film a commercial.
• 32:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think that's I think that that was that one.
• 33:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But again, had the money, call up a service.
• 33:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, I I I don't I don't understand that.
• 33:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I understand that there's a lot of mental challenges and things that he's he's had to go through.
• 33:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not discounting that at all.
• 33:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's why I'm bringing this up.
• 33:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Because anybody who's been through anything like that, that that is trauma.
• 33:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so he may be carrying trauma from a lot of things.
• 33:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know.
• 33:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not here to diagnose him.
• 33:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just here to look at things from the you know the the top level and say, here's a person with money.
• 33:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why are they driving?
• 33:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're able to give car services.
• 34:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That it's just the way it is.
• 34:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's no other way around it.
• 34:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So undoubtedly Tiger has trauma from what he did what he's going through.
• 34:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh and what he has gone through over the years.
• 34:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so I'm not it may sound like I'm bad mouthing, Tiger.
• 34:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm really not.
• 34:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just speaking about the money aspect because it costs money to have security guards, you know, bodyguards, uh to have private transportation.
• 34:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why is somebody like that who has the ways and the means to do those things to have that private security and have have have one of the individuals in his security detail be one of the drivers.
• 35:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't understand.
• 35:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know if he was trying to be private about something.
• 35:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I don't know.
• 35:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I I I really don't.
• 35:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So it may sound like I'm bad mouthing it.
• 35:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm I'm talking about the actual activity of let's take Tiger's name out.
• 35:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Let's just put Justin.
• 35:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Justin has a lot of money, which is not the case.
• 35:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm giving this as an analogy as something that is parallel, parallel to what happened to her.
• 35:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So Tiger has money, let's say Justin has money.
• 36:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Tiger can get private security, Justin can.
• 36:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Tiger doesn't need to drive, he can pay for car service, private security, Justin can too.
• 36:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Likelihood of crash or whatever occurred for Tiger happens to Justin.
• 36:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So it doesn't forget the name Tiger Woods.
• 36:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Forget it.
• 36:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And just put your name put yourself or Johnny Smith.
• 36:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just make up a name and and then think of it like that.
• 37:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And say, would you know Johnny Smith has a lot of money, is able to pay for these things.
• 37:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: This, you know, the security, security detail, car service, private security, you know, if he wants to move, where not a lot of people know where he's going and what time and all that.
• 37:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So Johnny would be going through some some form of trauma.
• 37:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's where we're we're we're drawing the parallel with Tiger Woods.
• 37:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, I think a lot of people we we we wanna we wanna help, we want to support, we want uh we want people to do good, we want people to win, we want people to have opportunities.
• 38:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And in this case, Tiger's kind of taking another opportunity away from whatever it was that he was in the middle of doing.
• 38:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we've talked about mental health and challenges, trauma, around death, and we talked about it about pop pop culture here with Tiger Woods.
• 38:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So we just wanted to talk about those two areas in this show.
• 38:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us.
• 38:55
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• 39:26
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• 39:29
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• 39:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so we'll we'll see you on the next episode.
• 39:45
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