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INTERVIEW: Ronda Rousey Speaks On Her Return To MMA, Upcoming Match Against Gina Carano, Her Legacy + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click your ass up the
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. You don't finish the y'all dune morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy Jess hilarious, Charlamagne to God. We
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  Speaker 2: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.
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  Speaker 1: In the building. Yes, indeed, she will whip your ass
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  Speaker 1: if she has to.
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  Speaker 2: Lagas and gentlemen, Ronda Rousey, welcome, Hey having me.
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling this morning?
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  Speaker 3: A little bit tired about like three days of like
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  Speaker 3: not getting a full night sleep. I think yesterday I
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  Speaker 3: did thirteen hours of press straight before we started the
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  Speaker 3: press conference.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and got up right and early just because I
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  Speaker 3: couldn't miss seeing you all in town.
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  Speaker 2: And you still got a train with all that as well.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do you take a couple of days off?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I couldn't physically train yesterday. I was gonna
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  Speaker 3: the day before, but then the fighting and engines and
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  Speaker 3: so you know, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Just part of doing press.
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  Speaker 3: But thankfully my opponents here too, and I don't think
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  Speaker 3: she got any training either, so 're kind of even
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  Speaker 3: got your cool got.
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  Speaker 5: You back into fighting here you talking about comic books
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  Speaker 5: and trying to get that question.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well I kind of I wasn't really at Liberty
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  Speaker 3: to talk about it because I was like working on it,
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  Speaker 3: but I eluded a little bit. We were talking about Mike
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  Speaker 3: Tyson coming back against Jake Paul and that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: him coming back at almost sixty was the most viewed
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  Speaker 3: combat sports event of all time and that if he
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  Speaker 3: can come back, then then you know, nobody can.
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  Speaker 4: Really say that they're retired after that.
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  Speaker 3: So that kind of put in my mind like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 3: if I came back, if I had a fight with Gina,
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  Speaker 3: that would just be it would be huge.
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  Speaker 4: And then I ended up.
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  Speaker 3: Seeing a video of her while I was nine months
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  Speaker 3: pregnant about to burst. Yeah, and she had like just
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  Speaker 3: got canceled and was like going through like a depression
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  Speaker 3: and was like super unhealthy and gained a lot of weight.
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  Speaker 3: And I just saw where she was at, and I
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  Speaker 3: was looking at where I'm at. I'm like, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we should like reclaim our bodily identities together and we
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  Speaker 3: should put on the biggest match that anybody has ever seen.
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  Speaker 3: And so, nine months pregnant, I gave Dan a call
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, what do you think about
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  Speaker 3: this fight? And he was completely totally into it. But
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  Speaker 3: things you know, didn't work out so much between us
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  Speaker 3: and the publicly traded UFC, the new TKO Group.
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  Speaker 4: Version of the company.
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  Speaker 3: So now I ended up partnering with Jake Paul at
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  Speaker 3: MVP and Netflix to self promote and do it ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: The UFC not see the value in the fight.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Dan Dana definitely did, but since they were
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  Speaker 3: switching over to the streaming model, they didn't want to
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  Speaker 3: set the precedent of giving us the guaranteed money that
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  Speaker 3: we deserve because then everybody else after that is going
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  Speaker 3: to be able to be able to demand more.
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  Speaker 4: And right now.
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  Speaker 3: The streaming model, they get a lump of some like
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  Speaker 3: lump sum of money up front from like paramount, and
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  Speaker 3: it's in their best interest to actually spend as little
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  Speaker 3: as possible. They don't get any incentive putting on events
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  Speaker 3: that get more views and bigger stuff and bigger paydays
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  Speaker 3: for the fighters. And so because they're a publicly traded company,
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  Speaker 3: they're legally obligated to maximize shareholder value and that that
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  Speaker 3: entails squeezing the fighters as much as they can. And
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  Speaker 3: they didn't want our rising tide to lift all the boats.
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy when you're at press conferences, right, and you're
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  Speaker 6: having this conversation about the money and the minimums and
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  Speaker 6: what's not working, what is on the back end once
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  Speaker 6: the lights and the cameras go down. How does that
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  Speaker 6: affect your relationships like across various organizations and people that
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  Speaker 6: you've worked with.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what do you mean Like most fighters are like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: hell yeah, not the.
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  Speaker 6: Fighters, but the people who are making the money decisions. Right,
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  Speaker 6: So the people who might be like, well we were
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  Speaker 6: trying to figure it out, or well we told her
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  Speaker 6: why we couldn't do it. But then when you yeah,
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  Speaker 6: the promoters, the companies, because when you get on the
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  Speaker 6: when you're in the press conferences and you're talking about
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  Speaker 6: that like what was a forty thousand dollars minimum? Right,
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  Speaker 6: the conversation and shifts about what they're not doing and
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  Speaker 6: if they saw value.
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  Speaker 4: So they don't call you.
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  Speaker 6: The didn't call you and be like, hey, we would
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  Speaker 6: have respected if you didn't have that conversation at the
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  Speaker 6: press conference, because now it becomes a conversation.
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  Speaker 3: No, they're not gonna call me. They can't tell me
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  Speaker 3: what to say. You know, what is this labyrinth? You
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  Speaker 3: have no power for me.
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  Speaker 4: What are they gonna say to me, please, Ronda, don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how.
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  Speaker 3: I'm allowed to swear on this probably oh yeah, but like, no,
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  Speaker 3: say wherever the fuck I want, where they send me
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  Speaker 3: a text, Ronda, don't say whatever the fuck you want.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what criticized.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 4: They criticized your age a.
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  Speaker 2: Lot, right, They're saying that you haven't fought and ten years.
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  Speaker 2: She hasn't fought in seventeen years. That people don't believe
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  Speaker 2: that the fight is gonna be as competitive. What do
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  Speaker 2: you say to those critics, Well, I.
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  Speaker 3: Say that nobody is bringing up John Jones age as
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  Speaker 3: a disqualifying factor. Francis and Ganu, you know, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: actually more fresh. They've been fighting more often and their
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  Speaker 3: bodies are more broken down, and I've actually been able
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  Speaker 3: to recover a lot over this time. And what really
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  Speaker 3: set me apart as a fighter is my like mastery
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  Speaker 3: of martial arts. It wasn't that I was so much
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  Speaker 3: bigger and stronger and more exposed than everybody, which you know,
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  Speaker 3: I am very athletically gifted, But if anything, I've become
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  Speaker 3: more knowledgeable and more you know, informed by the evolution
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  Speaker 3: of the sport. And I'm more dangerous I've ever been.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't hear these guys being asked about
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  Speaker 3: their age. It's not like my fucking ovaries are fighting,
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  Speaker 3: you know, So, like, why are we even talking about this?
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  Speaker 6: Is there less pressure on you with this fight because
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  Speaker 6: your legacy has already been cemented.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's less pressure on this fight because I
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  Speaker 3: came back entirely for myself. I think I kind of
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  Speaker 3: had to wait on everybody to give up on me
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  Speaker 3: coming back to know I was just coming back for me,
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  Speaker 3: and it kind of got convoluted towards the end, and
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  Speaker 3: I felt like my last two fights, I just didn't
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  Speaker 3: even want to.
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  Speaker 4: Be there and I just felt like obligated to.
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  Speaker 3: And so now I feel like the world isn't entirely
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  Speaker 3: on my shoulders and it's all about just putting on
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  Speaker 3: a great fight.
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  Speaker 4: It's not that I have to win or at all collapses.
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  Speaker 3: It's I have to put on the best fight that
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  Speaker 3: people could possibly expect, and that's going to change the
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  Speaker 3: industry for everyone.
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  Speaker 5: How do you simulate real fight pressure in camp after
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  Speaker 5: being out for so long.
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  Speaker 4: So we kind of like recreate the process.
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  Speaker 3: So like I'll go into like a back room and
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  Speaker 3: we'll do a warm up in the back room and
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  Speaker 3: people will turn off all of the lights. We have
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  Speaker 3: like a private like gym area, and they'll play my song.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do like the one for the back They'll play
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  Speaker 3: my song. I'll come out, I'll walk out. We'll do
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  Speaker 3: like introductions and everything like that, and then like turn
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  Speaker 3: the lights, you know, turn the lights on, and then
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll do sparring just like that.
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  Speaker 6: Wow, wow, Yeah, what do you think you're going to
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  Speaker 6: like or how are you repairing differently to be safer
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  Speaker 6: in this fight? Because I know when you walked away
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  Speaker 6: last time the retirement, you were scared because of the
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  Speaker 6: health conditions into concussions, right, so this time around, how
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  Speaker 6: do you avoid those things?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you try to get hit as little as possible.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing, because I had to deal with that
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  Speaker 3: my whole career, I had developed a fighting style that
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  Speaker 3: I believe is the most efficient fighting system that anyone's
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  Speaker 3: ever come up with, which is why I would win.
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  Speaker 4: My fights so quickly.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm actually really lucky that when I approach Dana
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  Speaker 3: about coming back, he was like, I want to get
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  Speaker 3: you checked out, want to make sure you're okay. And
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  Speaker 3: he sent me to the Cleveland Clinic where they're doing
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  Speaker 3: like a long term fighter's like neurological health study, and
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  Speaker 3: I had a long session with doctor Bernick and all
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  Speaker 3: these different scans, they checked me head to toe and
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  Speaker 3: he's like, I think we talked about his last time
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  Speaker 3: that he said that, I think, what's happening to you.
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  Speaker 3: It's being exasperated by concussions, but it's not exactly concussions.
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  Speaker 3: He thinks that the impacts are setting off migraines in
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  Speaker 3: migraine aura, and that's why I'm losing these big chunks
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  Speaker 3: of my vision, in my death perception, my ability to
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  Speaker 3: think clearly, And it's like you think they're concussion symptoms,
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  Speaker 3: but they're actually migraine symptoms. And so then we started
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  Speaker 3: experimenting with different kinds of medication and I was actually
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  Speaker 3: able to find something that I can take preventively so
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  Speaker 3: that when I'm getting hit, I don't like lose my
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  Speaker 3: vision isn't getting affected, and so I'm not going out there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, wanting to get hit or you know, but
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  Speaker 3: I am prepared for it. And now it's like I'm
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  Speaker 3: not walking out there with like this big like rain
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  Speaker 3: cloud over my head and like these super high stakes
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  Speaker 3: that I've been working with my entire career. So it's
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  Speaker 3: it's life changing for me. But I'm still gonna try
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  Speaker 3: and get out of there unscathed, and that's the plan.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, now I'm more prepared than ever to
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  Speaker 3: deal with what would you have happened?
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  Speaker 5: Would you have to rebuild first your body? Your timing,
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  Speaker 5: your mental your confidence?
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  Speaker 4: Like, god, my pelvic floor trying to stop pissing myself,
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  Speaker 4: that was tough.
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  Speaker 1: How you would you the ring? What if you ended
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  Speaker 1: up the rings.
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  Speaker 4: Only wearing shorts?
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  Speaker 1: That would be?
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  Speaker 4: That was So?
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  Speaker 1: Is that true? Your public? What you have to rebuild first?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Right, no idea Just.
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  Speaker 6: Un so once you have kids, you're just like peeing
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  Speaker 6: everywhere differently, no one's ever told.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm just you don't pee everywhere. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's like a lot of strain on your
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's like a little basket the muscles that
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  Speaker 3: holds all of your internal organs and everything up, and
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  Speaker 3: it all gets like stretched out when you shove a
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  Speaker 3: whole human being in there. And so then I had
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  Speaker 3: to like go to pelvic floor therapy and do all
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  Speaker 3: these different kinds of exercises and stuff to like but
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  Speaker 3: to strengthen all of that, but it also helps with
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  Speaker 3: like my back and my hips and everything else. Is
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  Speaker 3: like everything basically comes from your core. And so that's
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  Speaker 3: what I had to start with.
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  Speaker 4: First.
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  Speaker 3: It was like building my core back. And then when
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  Speaker 3: you have a baby, your abs like split apart. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and then so you have to bring your abs like
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  Speaker 3: back together, and you just have to Like you're pumped
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  Speaker 3: with all these hormones, I make everything in your body
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  Speaker 3: loosen like a freaking like snake's jaw, and it's like
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  Speaker 3: eating a mouse and then like after the mouse goes down,
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  Speaker 3: the snakes jaws Like.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna ask what you you have a
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  Speaker 7: You have two kids, right, one is very very young,
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  Speaker 7: and I've seen you in the gym at one of
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  Speaker 7: your girls.
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  Speaker 2: Do you let your girls watch the fight? Are you
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  Speaker 2: gonna let them come to the fight and watch mommy
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  Speaker 2: fight or is it one of the things you go
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  Speaker 2: to sleep?
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  Speaker 4: And well, I have four kids.
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  Speaker 3: I just assemble two of them, okay, And so my
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  Speaker 3: two older boys who are now in college, they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be coming to the fight, and they're very excited.
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  Speaker 4: About it.
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  Speaker 3: My two girls, they're going to be staying back home
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  Speaker 3: and not watching and they're they're just not they don't
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  Speaker 3: really understand what's going.
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  Speaker 4: On yet, and so they'll they'll figure it out one day.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm really excited to come home to them at
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the night.
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  Speaker 4: That's gonna be incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a narrative you're trying to kill with this fight?
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  Speaker 3: I think just my own personal narrative of like any
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  Speaker 3: prior negative associations I had with MMA, and throughout this
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  Speaker 3: whole process, I actually made enjoying myself and the process
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  Speaker 3: the first priority. Before it was just always about the
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  Speaker 3: result and the process be damned. And I was chronically
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  Speaker 3: overworked and overtraining and like running on fumes and just
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  Speaker 3: like miserable and being thinking that I had to make
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  Speaker 3: myself miserable in order to be the best. And now
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  Speaker 3: I realized that I have to make myself entirely fulfilled
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  Speaker 3: in order to be the best. And that's really changed
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  Speaker 3: all of my associations. Looking at MMA now, I'm like
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  Speaker 3: so looking forward to being on the mat and excited
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  Speaker 3: to be there and excited to train. And that's why
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  Speaker 3: I want to feel when I look back on my career,
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  Speaker 3: it's not anxiety, but like, you know, wistfulness.
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  Speaker 5: Ooh, so what's more dangerous, Ronda Rowsey with something to
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  Speaker 5: prove or Ronda Rowsey with nothing to prove?
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  Speaker 4: Ha?
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  Speaker 3: Oh definitely it was something to prove. And when I
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  Speaker 3: when negotiations were breaking down with the UFC and Hunter Campbell,
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  Speaker 3: who's the new guy who's running at his little fucking asshole,
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  Speaker 3: wasis and he was like he was talking ship and
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  Speaker 3: being like, yeah, I just don't know how we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: market a couple of forty year olds like to me,
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  Speaker 3: like about.
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  Speaker 1: Me and ge know, I'm like, anybody said that about
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  Speaker 1: exactly or.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly so I'm like and then he was just like saying, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I had all this, there's so much about this guy
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  Speaker 3: that was pissing me off. He was we were gonna
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  Speaker 3: be the last, like last fight one hundred and forty
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  Speaker 3: five pound division to retire the belt, and he was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: then we can finally get rid of that thing, like
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  Speaker 3: the kind of disdain that he was talking about. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: there's great women that fight at heavier weights. Claricia Shiels
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  Speaker 3: just sold out eighteen thousand seats in an arena.
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  Speaker 4: The reason division's not doing well is you. You're the fucking promoter.
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  Speaker 3: So like I was not too impressed with the guy,
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  Speaker 3: and and he left the room and Dana, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to go out and do this on my own. And
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  Speaker 3: the last thing you want me to do is leave
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  Speaker 3: this room pissed off, and was something to prove that's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm going to do, some change the world shit,
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  Speaker 3: And he was like, I just want you to make
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  Speaker 3: as much money as possible and gave me his blessing
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  Speaker 3: to go and do it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I was going to ask you where is like where
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  Speaker 6: did you all relationships?
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  Speaker 3: Stan?
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  Speaker 6: Because I heard you say he sent you to the
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  Speaker 6: therapy and now you're talking about, you know, home, wishing
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  Speaker 6: you will. So I guess it's just like business is business,
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  Speaker 6: but like you have a real relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I can't put into words my love and respect and
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  Speaker 3: admiration for Dana. Like everything that I have in my
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  Speaker 3: life is thanks to him, and my allegiance is to
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  Speaker 3: him and the Fertitas, not to the company that they sold.
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  Speaker 3: And Dana, he is just always been a great friend
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  Speaker 3: to me. And he didn't want me to take less
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  Speaker 3: than I deserve for the company. He wanted me to
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  Speaker 3: get what I deserve for myself, and so he he
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  Speaker 3: sent me on my way and has been nothing but
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  Speaker 3: supportive of me going and making other deals with with
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  Speaker 3: with MVP and Jake Paul. He does not have a
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  Speaker 3: great relationship with or with the Netflix that you know,
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  Speaker 3: is a competing streaming service, and he just wants me
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  Speaker 3: to be successful and happy.
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  Speaker 1: Jake Paul does a good job.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've given him props before for the job
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  Speaker 5: he does just promoting fights, especially women's fights.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean he's an MVP. Is a very relevant
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  Speaker 1: promotion absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a force to be reckoned
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  Speaker 3: with in both boxing and now in MMA, and it's
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  Speaker 3: the perfect i think partnership for us to come together.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's probably the worst thing that the
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  Speaker 3: UFC could have allowed. And they're just trying to save
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of money for themselves and for this
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  Speaker 3: one fight, but I think they're going to lose a
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  Speaker 3: whole bunch in the long run because of it, because
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  Speaker 3: now there's going to be another organization that can offer
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  Speaker 3: these fighters, you know, competing offers, and they thought that
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  Speaker 3: by sending me and Nate Diaz and Vancis Andnganu on
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  Speaker 3: our way, that they wouldn't have to pay the fighters more.
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  Speaker 3: But now, because they sent us on our way and
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  Speaker 3: allowed us all to align with each other ally align
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  Speaker 3: with each other, they've created a force to be reckoned with.
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  Speaker 2: Do you look at the fight differently? And the reason
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  Speaker 2: I say that is you know your mom now. And
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  Speaker 2: we look at Jake pull Tyson fight right, people assumed
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  Speaker 2: that he didn't go as hard as he would of course,
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  Speaker 2: he really thought he would have hurt Tyson. They said
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  Speaker 2: that wasn't true, But that's what people say. Do you
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: look at the same way when you fight in Gina
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: now and be like, I don't necessarily want to hurt her.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I want to win, but I don't want to hurt her.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: No, I definitely want to hurt her.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the most I could pay my respect
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: to her. She doesn't want me to go out there
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: and take it easy. I don't want her to come
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: out and take it easy on me.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: I want us to go out.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: There and put on the most intense and crazy fight
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: that people forgot that women could put on, that fighters
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: could it on. That we bring something entirely unique to
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: the table together that they have never seen before. And
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget that against my first fight and strike
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: for us, it's chick Sar.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Diolio is so nice to me beforehand.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: And I right away in the beginning of the fight,
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I'm jumping in for a flying armbar, and as we're
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: about to hit the ground, she.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: She's already in the arm bar. I know she's gonna
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: have to put.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Her hand on the ground to stop herself, and her
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: elbow's going to go out immediately, and there's no way
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: that she can tap. And in judo you're supposed to
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: get people an opportunity to tap, right, And so she's.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Flying down, going down there, she's going yelling tap tap, tap,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: tap tap.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: So I let my legs fly off, I loose an
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: armbar and I hold the spot and I tell a
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: referee she's trying to tap. And then she gets up
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: she's like, I didn't say tap. I didn't say tap,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I just said ah, which I'm like, first of all,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: that's a verbal submission, you dumb bitch.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Second off, like I never should fuck her. I'm not
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: trying to help you. Fuck you.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like for anyone being nice. She ruined it for
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: everybody after that. So the next bitch I bought her.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Her elbow looked like a flamingo knee after like ninety
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: nine seconds. And and I've just learned that lesson my
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: first rookie card, I like making this pouting ass face
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: because people are booing me and I'm really pissed, And
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: it could have been a flying arm bar, you know,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: like fuck her, and and it would have done the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: women in Mma more of a favor to actually break
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: her arm and do that flying arm bar than and
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: take it easy on her in that moment.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: And so, uh yeah, I definitely learned no more mercy after.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I would love to see you at the parents' line
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: when one of them kids mess with right, and then
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: be like, I'm bringing my mama up here, but bring
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: your mama. And then you walk in that motherfucker.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, want to do I do one know you
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: and Gina, y'all both helped to build the sport, right,
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: how do you separate respect from what you have to
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: probably do to her when y'all get in.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: That in that ring.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm two time Olympian, you know, I've fought
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: everywhere around the world, every person around the world, and
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I have so much respect for just the Olympics itself
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: and everyone putting everything that's going on the world aside,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: and like, let's just do something that we have in common.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Let's just compete, and let's just do a sport together.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And I have no problem with anybody from Turkmenistan, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna break that bitch just fucking arm. She bows
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: and across from me. And that's just what I was
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: taught to do since I was a little kid. I've
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: been breaking arms since I was fourteen years old. And
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: a lot of these girls with my friends, and that's
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: just like part of being a combat sports athlete.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: That's how we show our respect to each other.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit dysfunctional, but it's also like a
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: weirdly like intimate relationship that you have with somebody that
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: you are sharing this like very primal moment.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And I mean.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: If they asked me to, they would that would be
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: would you fight? Would you fight? Clarissa? I mean, I'm
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: done fighting after this.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But it is that was myst.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Question for you. I thought, so this is the one
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and done. Well, I mean, unless like something goes down
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: in this match.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: That like deserve like like it deserves a trilogy from
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: me and Gina. But I promised my husband, I promised
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: my sister like everybody, that this is my last one
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to have more kids.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you want to have more kids, but we
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: got to get one more big payday.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Ronda Rowley versus Kashawan Rock for Shawn Rock. Yes, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: told you.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: The chick that that we talked about last night.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yea, and she actually is in combat fighting now, Yes,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: she is actually in combat fight now, what's up? Netflix?
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Versus Swan Rod.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: She want to have kids, she don't want to. She's
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: been there. That's it's not going to change my lifestyle.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Like at one point, like we make money so that
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: we can spend our time how we want, with who
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: we want, where we want, and I already have that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: If I'm going spending time away from my family and
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: everything to make more money.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: That's not going to change our situation at all. Like
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: what are you doing?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: You know, it's just dragon sickness, Like you got to
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: like keep in mind what you're doing these things for,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: and I'm doing them for them. I don't want to
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: spend more time away from them trying to get more
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: money that they don't need.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. If you don't, what's my last question?
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: If you don't dominate this fight, do you feel like
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: people will question, you know, whether you should have come back?
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: You think they'll question your legacy? Like what do you think?
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: People are going to do whatever the fuck they want
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: to do, you know, but this fight is going to
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: change the trajectory of the sport forever. It's going to
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: give to the fighters more opportunities and more revenue share
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: than they've ever had before. It's more than just about
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: me and Gina, Like, what's more important? As we go
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: out there, we put out an incredible fight. If there
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: was somebody that was going to steal my joy and
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: walk around with it, then I would be happy that
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: it would be Gina.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: She's going to have to pry this fucking fight for
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: my cold their fingers.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: But like it's it's not about everybody else.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: This fight is just about us. We came back for
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: We fought to fight each other, and.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: What everybody thinks of it is whatever, It's a reflection
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: of what they think of themselves.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, definitely watch the fight. May sixteenth, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: we appreciate you for joining us.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Best of luck.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Thank you live on Netflix and if we pay you can.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Can you like knock out girls for us that we
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: don't like her to get on our nerves by any chance?
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty expensive. Do you beat up into
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I mean the Breakfast Club?
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Every day?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Click up the Breakfast Club. You don't finish the dum