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- 1:26Speaker 1: I'm Shadon Mollman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.
- 1:30Speaker 1: It's Thursday before Super Bowl fifty seven. We are so
- 1:34Speaker 1: freaking close, folks, to finally kicking this game off, to
- 1:38Speaker 1: finally seeing how our bets are gonna play out. A
- 1:42Speaker 1: season's worth of conversation coming to a close. I am
- 1:46Speaker 1: joined as always by my bff, my companion, my compadre
- 1:52Speaker 1: professional better Simon Hunter l Oh. So I'm in Cheah.
- 1:58Speaker 1: This is always so a better suite. Three days away
- 2:00Speaker 1: from the best game of the year, but the last
- 2:03Speaker 1: game of the year. So this is like the most
- 2:07Speaker 1: fun week. I mean, it's just a week I've never
- 2:08Speaker 1: any hype, especially if you're a fan of said team
- 2:11Speaker 1: in Super Bowl. It it doesn't get much better. Um,
- 2:15Speaker 1: but this is like the the worst part too. Like
- 2:18Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm not going to sleep I
- 2:20Speaker 1: know guys too, have bet a lot of money on
- 2:21Speaker 1: it will be to sleep. Um, it's just a long
- 2:24Speaker 1: three days until kickoff, so we're getting there. Hopefully this
- 2:28Speaker 1: helps people get through the day our picks. But yeah,
- 2:32Speaker 1: super Bowl, Super Bowl Week, it's just so much info,
- 2:35Speaker 1: so many things coming at people. Um, it's tough when
- 2:38Speaker 1: it's over. But this week just flies by usually because
- 2:40Speaker 1: it's just so much going on. I gotta remind people
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- 3:16Speaker 1: new podcast is loaded. Joining us on the show for
- 3:20Speaker 1: our Thursday Best Bets podcast, it's appropriate. It's Brandon Anderson,
- 3:26Speaker 1: who's a brilliant analyst at the Action Network who has
- 3:30Speaker 1: been doing multiple podcast all season long. The Best Bets
- 3:34Speaker 1: podcast that normally comes out on Fridays, it's out today.
- 3:38Speaker 1: The Super Bowl Best Bets podcast. He also does a
- 3:41Speaker 1: great podcast late Sunday into Monday about wrapping up the
- 3:45Speaker 1: weekend and the early bets he'll make. He'll do a
- 3:47Speaker 1: column every week looking at the games that he will
- 3:50Speaker 1: immediately bet. It's a brilliant column that helps inform me
- 3:53Speaker 1: as I do this podcast and forms a lot of
- 3:55Speaker 1: people as they're making decisions. Brandon Anderson saving the best
- 4:01Speaker 1: for last, Buddy, Oh what's up? Guys? Super Bowl a
- 4:04Speaker 1: week is one of my favorites because as a Vikings fan,
- 4:07Speaker 1: you just get to sit back and have no rooting interest. Ever,
- 4:10Speaker 1: I just gotta watch the game, and my team is
- 4:12Speaker 1: never gonna be in this thing, So just watch the game,
- 4:15Speaker 1: make a little money, enjoy some football, and really, by
- 4:19Speaker 1: the time the Super Bowl kicks off, like we're all
- 4:21Speaker 1: stressed about our bets and everything, but the work is done.
- 4:24Speaker 1: We just get to watch the game like there there's
- 4:26Speaker 1: no more analyzing and tracking and what are we learning
- 4:30Speaker 1: here for the next game? This is it. We just
- 4:33Speaker 1: get to enjoy some nachos and some some good food
- 4:36Speaker 1: and enjoy the game. So man, we're almost there. Well,
- 4:39Speaker 1: you know what's interesting the way you say that the
- 4:42Speaker 1: lines came out Sunday of the NFC Title game, which
- 4:45Speaker 1: is now ten eleven days ago, or the NFC NAFC
- 4:49Speaker 1: title games, and the Eagles were immediately one and a
- 4:52Speaker 1: half point dogs. We've talked about this in the podcast.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I bet the Eagles a plus one and a half.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the Chiefs were plus two
- 4:59Speaker 1: and a half within fifteen minutes. So bet the Chiefs
- 5:01Speaker 1: plus two and a half. Simon and I have talked
- 5:04Speaker 1: about he likes the over. I'm on the under. I
- 5:06Speaker 1: bet the under. I didn't get a good number. I
- 5:08Speaker 1: got at four to nine and a half. I thought
- 5:09Speaker 1: it was gonna I thought it was gonna come down.
- 5:11Speaker 1: To be honest, it was at fifty. It came down
- 5:12Speaker 1: four to nine and a half. UM, But that's kind
- 5:16Speaker 1: of been it. Like the lines haven't been moving crazy amounts.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Simon and I talked about on the podcasts last week
- 5:22Speaker 1: that he really liked the Eagles in the moment we
- 5:25Speaker 1: were waiting to get more info about Jalen hurts Um,
- 5:30Speaker 1: but there hasn't been a lot of reason to go
- 5:33Speaker 1: heavy on one side or the other. So like every
- 5:37Speaker 1: day I'm looking because like that work is kind of done.
- 5:40Speaker 1: So now we're even now. The work is kind of done.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I've kind of been tinkering with some props to bed
- 5:44Speaker 1: every once in a while. You know, we did the
- 5:46Speaker 1: podcast with Raybond and Kerner. Listen to what Raybond and
- 5:49Speaker 1: Stuck he talked about on their podcast. Um, but like,
- 5:53Speaker 1: there's not a ton of work to be doing right now, Simon,
- 5:55Speaker 1: I want to start with you, like, especially, you got
- 5:59Speaker 1: one game for two weeks. You're used to sixteen games
- 6:03Speaker 1: over seven days. Yeah, I mean this game was done
- 6:07Speaker 1: though three weeks ago. That's what I mean. That's how
- 6:10Speaker 1: much free time you have in the PLAYFFS compared the
- 6:11Speaker 1: regular season. So I had this matchup done, I had
- 6:14Speaker 1: the fourty Nires matchup done, had that Bangals verse Eagles,
- 6:17Speaker 1: all the different scenarios once I do with the four
- 6:19Speaker 1: final word. Kind of started that and then last week
- 6:23Speaker 1: I do a little bit of work for this, right,
- 6:24Speaker 1: you'll update, you'll tinker. You're always kind of updating tinker
- 6:27Speaker 1: in your model, especially when there's major injuries where there
- 6:30Speaker 1: could be an injury to my homes, could be an
- 6:32Speaker 1: injury to the hurts. Obviously that's a big deal to
- 6:34Speaker 1: anyone that's doing a model. But to me, it's kind
- 6:37Speaker 1: of futures like that's what this past week. I mean
- 6:39Speaker 1: a lot of proaches here and what they like for
- 6:41Speaker 1: futures for next year, what the rumors are, Where do
- 6:43Speaker 1: they think guys are going, where the value would be.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this allseason been mental. It really is
- 6:48Speaker 1: like going my British friends saying, and it's gonna be
- 6:51Speaker 1: wild though, just because the Rodgers to the Jets thing
- 6:55Speaker 1: feels pretty real, like where the old saying, where their smoke,
- 6:58Speaker 1: there's fire, and that's a big that's a huge upgrade
- 7:01Speaker 1: for a team that just needs a game manager. So um,
- 7:03Speaker 1: I can tell you a lot of pros like the
- 7:05Speaker 1: early marketing the Jets and things like that. So that's
- 7:07Speaker 1: what I mean this offseason. That's a lot of guys
- 7:10Speaker 1: are talking about that last week. Yeah, we've talked super Bowl.
- 7:13Speaker 1: I mean, like a bunch of guys, right, but everyone's
- 7:15Speaker 1: thinking next year already, because this kind of is just
- 7:17Speaker 1: a party. If you're a pro, yeah, there's gonna be value.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Guys will always find value. But I think anyone room
- 7:23Speaker 1: couldn't agree. This is a pretty damn smart line and
- 7:26Speaker 1: a pretty damn smart game where it's just you've got
- 7:28Speaker 1: two teams, both are the one seeds. We're all reaching
- 7:33Speaker 1: for something to clutch onto. That's negative about either team
- 7:36Speaker 1: because it's just like such well coached teams, just really
- 7:39Speaker 1: good teams all season. No one can really argue against
- 7:42Speaker 1: either than being the one seeds all year. So it's
- 7:45Speaker 1: one of those where I get what you're saying, or
- 7:47Speaker 1: you're like, is there really that much value? And I
- 7:50Speaker 1: would say there is, because it's like I have a
- 7:52Speaker 1: preference on a side in the total um. The question
- 7:55Speaker 1: is is my model gonna keep being right? Like we
- 7:57Speaker 1: talked last week, I didn't know what the hell to
- 8:00Speaker 1: do last week, I was just like the human and
- 8:02Speaker 1: we wanted to take the four nine ers and take
- 8:04Speaker 1: the Bengals. I told you, I'm just gonna take the
- 8:06Speaker 1: models projection, and the Models had the Eagles win and
- 8:09Speaker 1: had the Chiefs when and covering the spread. So it's
- 8:11Speaker 1: the same thing this week. I think the Eagles on
- 8:14Speaker 1: paper and everything I've talked about, I just think they're
- 8:16Speaker 1: the better team. I have them minus three. How am
- 8:18Speaker 1: I gonna argue against anyone taking my homes as a dog.
- 8:20Speaker 1: It's like I get exactly where they're coming from. That's
- 8:23Speaker 1: what's so funny without the Super Bowl is everyone's got
- 8:26Speaker 1: the same chance right now. As much as we want
- 8:27Speaker 1: to say we have an edge and everything like that,
- 8:29Speaker 1: it's still just one random mass game at the end
- 8:32Speaker 1: of the year when all everyone's all banged up. And
- 8:34Speaker 1: that's the best part of the super Bowl. It's it's
- 8:36Speaker 1: really just it's the pinnacle of it. That's why we
- 8:39Speaker 1: all love football. It's one game a week besides so
- 8:42Speaker 1: much of every season. Then it all comes down to
- 8:44Speaker 1: just not a seven game series like in these other sports.
- 8:46Speaker 1: It's a one game, winner take all, and you become
- 8:49Speaker 1: a legend for life. So it just does not get
- 8:51Speaker 1: much better. Check a legend for life, Brandon Anderson? Will
- 8:56Speaker 1: you be a legend for life? What you say right
- 9:01Speaker 1: now about this game? Man? I don't. I don't appreciate
- 9:06Speaker 1: the future intents on that that implies that I am
- 9:08Speaker 1: not already a legend for life. Chad, My favorite part
- 9:12Speaker 1: of these two weeks is, you know, books put up
- 9:16Speaker 1: hundreds thousands of props for this game. And look, we
- 9:20Speaker 1: already know I grew assignment. I already know before the
- 9:23Speaker 1: line came out. You knew, you knew if you like
- 9:25Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Chiefs. You know, if you're thinking
- 9:27Speaker 1: over under, you've done your work on this game. But
- 9:30Speaker 1: now we've got props on will there be a score?
- 9:33Speaker 1: Gamy and will there be an octopus in the game.
- 9:35Speaker 1: We're like, what what are are these things? At home?
- 9:38Speaker 1: And we got over and unders bought every player and
- 9:41Speaker 1: alternate props for like the guys down to the end
- 9:43Speaker 1: of the roster and will they make a catch? Will
- 9:45Speaker 1: they play a snap? We got just so many extra
- 9:49Speaker 1: props because this is the Super Bowl and what I like.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Then you're not gonna go big and win huge money
- 9:56Speaker 1: on these. But of course the line is sharp the
- 9:59Speaker 1: actual game. Of course, the over under the total is
- 10:02Speaker 1: going to be sharp. Everyone in the world is playing
- 10:04Speaker 1: with those things, but you know what they're not necessarily
- 10:07Speaker 1: playing will there be an octopus? Will there be some
- 10:10Speaker 1: of these weird random long shots, and the further down
- 10:13Speaker 1: the board, you get like, that's where I live, That's
- 10:15Speaker 1: where I kind of make my living. You guys know
- 10:17Speaker 1: what Action Network is with these weird long shot bets
- 10:20Speaker 1: and the niche bets. You got to dig down the
- 10:23Speaker 1: app when you log into vandel and you're like, okay,
- 10:25Speaker 1: keep scrolling, keep scrolling, what's down here? So in Super
- 10:28Speaker 1: Bowl week you've got more of those than ever. So
- 10:31Speaker 1: I love when I see something new and I'm like, oh,
- 10:34Speaker 1: I have no idea if there will be a touchback
- 10:36Speaker 1: on the opening kickoff, but that looks like the one
- 10:38Speaker 1: that there could be an adge on. And let me
- 10:39Speaker 1: do the work on it, and let me research your
- 10:42Speaker 1: things that I haven't normally looked at and see if
- 10:44Speaker 1: there's something there. And the fact of the matter is,
- 10:47Speaker 1: when there are hundreds of of props up, you're gonna
- 10:50Speaker 1: find an edge somewhere before you get to those, because
- 10:53Speaker 1: I want us to get to the best bets. I
- 10:55Speaker 1: thought your research leading into the last couple of weeks
- 10:59Speaker 1: about the Eagles edge on the defensive line against the
- 11:05Speaker 1: Chief's offensive line and the Eagle's edge on the offensive
- 11:08Speaker 1: line against the Chiefs defense overall, it was really smart, Simon,
- 11:15Speaker 1: and I I think it makes you think about the
- 11:18Speaker 1: Eagles as the side. Uh. But excuse me, Simon and
- 11:22Speaker 1: I have been going back and forth on this over
- 11:25Speaker 1: under every bit of research you said about the Eagles
- 11:29Speaker 1: pass rush, the sack rate, the rush rate being number
- 11:32Speaker 1: in the league, Chiefs being mediocre makes me feel like
- 11:35Speaker 1: this should be an under game. Are you on the
- 11:38Speaker 1: over or are you on the under? I'm lean under.
- 11:41Speaker 1: I don't have a strong play on the total, but
- 11:44Speaker 1: I'm with you that I think this game was one
- 11:46Speaker 1: in the trenches. And if I'm on Philadelphia, then that
- 11:49Speaker 1: has to be why because they're gonna win on both
- 11:52Speaker 1: sides of the ball right there on the line. I
- 11:54Speaker 1: think that's one of the more overlooked parts of the game.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Everyone knows about Patrick Mahomes. He's Patrick Mahomes. That's not
- 12:01Speaker 1: a tough analysis, and you can't really fault an analysis either.
- 12:04Speaker 1: But I think coaching and offensive and defensive line play
- 12:08Speaker 1: is where you can really get an edge that's overlooked
- 12:10Speaker 1: a little bit. And I think if you like the Eagles,
- 12:13Speaker 1: part of your analysis at least a little bit of
- 12:16Speaker 1: it has to be. I think this Eagle's pass rush
- 12:19Speaker 1: can get to my homes a little bit. I think
- 12:21Speaker 1: Philadelphia can slow down the Chiefs from scoring. So for me,
- 12:25Speaker 1: I think if I like the Eagles, which I do,
- 12:28Speaker 1: then you have to go Eagles and under, or if
- 12:31Speaker 1: it leans over, then I'm a little bit afraid from
- 12:33Speaker 1: Eagles position because I don't necessarily want Jalen Hurts matching
- 12:37Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes score for score, and suddenly we've gotten over.
- 12:42Speaker 1: I think if we go over, I start to get
- 12:44Speaker 1: a little more worried from my Eagles position, and it
- 12:46Speaker 1: feels more like under Eagles or over Chiefs. So since
- 12:50Speaker 1: I like the Eagles, I like the under. All the
- 12:53Speaker 1: line place stuff is just so overwhelmingly in favor of
- 12:56Speaker 1: the Eagles that that for me. I know, Simon, you
- 12:59Speaker 1: said that, think you're the first favorites here. Right after
- 13:02Speaker 1: this matchup was set, we were in lockstep that the
- 13:05Speaker 1: game is in the trenches. This is the best deepest
- 13:08Speaker 1: offensive line in the league for the Eagles, and they're
- 13:10Speaker 1: gonna be able to handle Chris Jones and be able
- 13:13Speaker 1: to to gash in the run game once they get going.
- 13:16Speaker 1: And then the Eagles defensive line eleven and a half
- 13:19Speaker 1: percent sack rate on past plays. That is the best
- 13:22Speaker 1: number the entire century in the NFL. The Eagles are
- 13:26Speaker 1: further ahead of second place in sac rate then second places.
- 13:29Speaker 1: From twenty nine they basically have lapped the entire NFL,
- 13:33Speaker 1: and the Chiefs only ranked sixteenth and past protection they
- 13:36Speaker 1: only had two games all year against the top eight
- 13:39Speaker 1: pressure team. So there's been a lot of talk this
- 13:41Speaker 1: week about all the Eagles are untested. Well, I think
- 13:45Speaker 1: that that's fair. I think those points are all very fair.
- 13:47Speaker 1: But I think the Chiefs maybe are a little more
- 13:48Speaker 1: untested than we've given credit for as well. That old
- 13:51Speaker 1: line has struggled when they had a few tests here.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Obviously Mahomes has the ankle thing that is going to
- 13:57Speaker 1: probably flare up the further the game goes. And then
- 14:00Speaker 1: the Chiefs the only phase four top thirteen offenses by
- 14:04Speaker 1: t v A all season. The Eagles are certainly not
- 14:07Speaker 1: They're certainly near the top of the list there. So
- 14:10Speaker 1: I think that you look at the run game, the
- 14:13Speaker 1: Eagles chewing up long drives that like twelve place seventy
- 14:17Speaker 1: eight yard eight minute drive. That leads under as well
- 14:21Speaker 1: for me, and so I think if you look at
- 14:22Speaker 1: a total, I looked under, but that's probably not my
- 14:25Speaker 1: top play on the game. Simon, just respond, Let's get
- 14:29Speaker 1: the conversation one last time about the total out of
- 14:34Speaker 1: the way, and then I want best bets from each
- 14:36Speaker 1: of you, and I will give mine. You know, I'll
- 14:38Speaker 1: just get Brandon credit. Like we talked all the time,
- 14:41Speaker 1: I give people exactly what I do. There's no secret
- 14:43Speaker 1: to my method, to my manus, I literally start with
- 14:45Speaker 1: the offensive line, defensive line, and then I build my
- 14:47Speaker 1: model up from there, and obviously quarterbacks thrown in there.
- 14:50Speaker 1: He was all over this summer. He had the Eagles
- 14:52Speaker 1: as his number one offensive line. I think he had
- 14:54Speaker 1: Chiefs two or three, which was literally the same thing
- 14:56Speaker 1: we ade end of the year. So I had the
- 14:58Speaker 1: offensive line and I even both quarterbacks made them the
- 15:01Speaker 1: one seed because there's other things that trickle out from that,
- 15:03Speaker 1: but obviously schedule plays into it, so it's one of
- 15:06Speaker 1: those things coming in this year. The Chiefs actually kind
- 15:09Speaker 1: of didn't do as well as I thought they were
- 15:11Speaker 1: going to do all season with that old line. So
- 15:13Speaker 1: the pressure it could be put on my homes a
- 15:14Speaker 1: little bit because he holds onto the ball too much
- 15:16Speaker 1: maybe as well. But look in this total, there's a
- 15:20Speaker 1: bunch of reasons why I like the over, But the
- 15:22Speaker 1: biggest one is I think there's gonna be a lot
- 15:24Speaker 1: of short fields because of turnover. So I think the Eagles,
- 15:27Speaker 1: with that front line, they will be able to get
- 15:29Speaker 1: to them, there will be able to turn over and
- 15:30Speaker 1: vice versa. The Eagles, they're kind of team that, Yes,
- 15:33Speaker 1: they've been small with the ball. I think they're gonna
- 15:35Speaker 1: take more risk in this kind of match. We've seen
- 15:37Speaker 1: teams in Super Bowl they take more risk. Especially when
- 15:39Speaker 1: you're playing against guy like my Homes, you can't really
- 15:41Speaker 1: play it safe. So I just see a lot of
- 15:43Speaker 1: short fields in this game, a lot of big plays
- 15:45Speaker 1: with both sides of ball, where I know what people think,
- 15:48Speaker 1: this Eagle's defense is really good. So just looking at
- 15:51Speaker 1: the a couple of their big matchups. They played the Cowboys.
- 15:53Speaker 1: I remember that Saturday game Christmas Eve. Uh, their defense
- 15:56Speaker 1: gave up forty points. They lost forty to thirty four.
- 15:59Speaker 1: You can say that was a fluke touchout the end.
- 16:01Speaker 1: Remember that really crazy play, so you can take that away,
- 16:03Speaker 1: but still over thirty points. And the indoor game. Uh,
- 16:06Speaker 1: the next time they played Green Bay, um they won
- 16:10Speaker 1: forty to thirty three. So their their defense give thirty
- 16:13Speaker 1: three points to Aaron Rodgers. Uh. You're just seeing a
- 16:16Speaker 1: little bit of a trend here that when they play
- 16:18Speaker 1: a good quarterback. Even week one, I mean remember chatting
- 16:20Speaker 1: remembers that the Detroit Indoors but up thirty five points.
- 16:23Speaker 1: I know there's a long time ago, but there's a
- 16:26Speaker 1: thing where they're indoors, it's different than when they're outdoors
- 16:29Speaker 1: at home, and that's when the Eagles defense has been
- 16:30Speaker 1: so dominant. So this was an outdoor game, I honestly
- 16:33Speaker 1: would have been all over that under. I think that
- 16:34Speaker 1: had have been skewed towards both teams being towards the under.
- 16:37Speaker 1: We're gonna talked to Andrew reads history in the playoffs,
- 16:39Speaker 1: in the outdoor game, when his team was in it,
- 16:42Speaker 1: he was towards the under. But when he's indoors, it
- 16:45Speaker 1: goes more towards the over, especially with my home. So
- 16:48Speaker 1: that's my big thing here chat is I just see
- 16:50Speaker 1: both both offenses being very risky and taking big swings.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Where Egos offense, I do think they'll be smart. They'll
- 16:56Speaker 1: try to run the ball if my homes goes up
- 16:58Speaker 1: at any point, if he goes up seven or fourteen points,
- 17:01Speaker 1: which historically in Super Bowls you see big swings like that,
- 17:04Speaker 1: teams go on little runs and other teams bounce back.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Which that's other problem. We can talk about doing the
- 17:08Speaker 1: prop show. Um, that's just something that happens in Super Bowls.
- 17:11Speaker 1: So I'm an under a guy I when we talk
- 17:13Speaker 1: all the time, I love taking under, especially when the
- 17:16Speaker 1: value is there. I could easily flip if it's fifty
- 17:18Speaker 1: two to the under, but right now I got them
- 17:20Speaker 1: out with fifty one and a half. I still think
- 17:22Speaker 1: there's value there. But we're crossing a bunch of key
- 17:24Speaker 1: numbers right now. So if you could still in in
- 17:26Speaker 1: some crazy book, find a fifty, I grab because all
- 17:29Speaker 1: the legal books now are hiding heading towards fifty one
- 17:31Speaker 1: and fifty and a half. So it seems like when
- 17:34Speaker 1: most people here this will be at fifty one at
- 17:36Speaker 1: that point. So it's it's tough for me to tell
- 17:38Speaker 1: you get a shitty number because that is a key number.
- 17:40Speaker 1: I'm hoping you grab it earlier and grabbed the over.
- 17:42Speaker 1: But Jad's right, this is one of those where two
- 17:46Speaker 1: quarters in I might be feeling like an idiot because
- 17:48Speaker 1: both these defenses have been playing so well in the playoffs.
- 17:51Speaker 1: All right, Brandon, Uh, you mentioned that you're looking for edges,
- 17:56Speaker 1: deep deep, deep into the books, into all these different markets.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Hard to find an edge on the total, hard to
- 18:03Speaker 1: find an edge on the side. Uh, where are you
- 18:07Speaker 1: finding your edges? Let's start with your best one, your
- 18:11Speaker 1: very best one. You've got one bet to make, You've
- 18:14Speaker 1: got to make it. What are you making? Yeah? Well,
- 18:20Speaker 1: obviously I like the Eagles here. I'm rocking my Carson
- 18:22Speaker 1: wins Jersey, North Dakota born and bred. We we fell
- 18:25Speaker 1: in love with the Eagles back in North Dakota when
- 18:28Speaker 1: Carson came out. And what can I say? We draft
- 18:30Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and the Eagles are off to two Super
- 18:33Speaker 1: Bowls in five year. It's pretty easy cause and effect there.
- 18:37Speaker 1: I'm on the Eagles on this one. But I'm always looking, Okay,
- 18:41Speaker 1: how can I how can I limit some of my
- 18:44Speaker 1: outs by adding to the payout here? So here's how
- 18:48Speaker 1: I'm gonna play with us. Gave me the Eagles halftime
- 18:52Speaker 1: plus full time, so I need to lead up the
- 18:54Speaker 1: half to tie. Will not do. But I'm gonna lead
- 18:56Speaker 1: up the half and win the game. On the money line,
- 19:00Speaker 1: me that a plus one sixty. I've seen it as
- 19:02Speaker 1: high as plus one eight out there, Eagles halftime full
- 19:06Speaker 1: time right now. Philadelphia has sixteen wins this season. Do
- 19:12Speaker 1: you guys know in how many of those sixteen wins
- 19:15Speaker 1: have the Eagles lead at halftime? H I would say
- 19:23Speaker 1: I would Quourtinas correct? Fourteen is right. They were tied
- 19:27Speaker 1: with Houston at behalf. They trailed Indianapolis by one. If
- 19:31Speaker 1: you like the Eagles, what's the script? My script is this,
- 19:35Speaker 1: you get out early. We know the Eagles have been
- 19:37Speaker 1: so strong in the first half all year, second quarter especially,
- 19:41Speaker 1: they passed to take the lead, they run to protect
- 19:44Speaker 1: the lead. The best defense against Patrick Mahomes, for all
- 19:47Speaker 1: the past rushing and all the number one d v
- 19:49Speaker 1: A pasty, the best defense is just keep them on
- 19:52Speaker 1: the sideline, keep them over there, run the football, run
- 19:55Speaker 1: the clock out. So if I take the Eagles, I
- 19:59Speaker 1: don't want to come back. Script. I don't want the
- 20:01Speaker 1: Eagles to be trailing and now I need Jalen to
- 20:03Speaker 1: outduel Pat in the second half. No, thank you, I'm
- 20:06Speaker 1: not saying it couldn't happen. That's not the script. I want.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Give me the early lead, set the tone, then control
- 20:13Speaker 1: the clock, run the ball, do what the Eagles have done,
- 20:16Speaker 1: and really board us in the second half of these
- 20:18Speaker 1: games in the playoffs so far, because they've been so dominant.
- 20:22Speaker 1: So if I get that at a plus one sixty,
- 20:24Speaker 1: that's a thirty percent implied the money line right now
- 20:27Speaker 1: is coming out around implied, So I'm getting almost an
- 20:31Speaker 1: extra pay out. I'm the implied here just to lead
- 20:35Speaker 1: at halftime. But I think that's the script where the
- 20:37Speaker 1: Eagles win anyway. So really that's my main play on
- 20:40Speaker 1: the game, not the Eagles side, but just giving me
- 20:43Speaker 1: Eagles halftime full time, and I think that's a sharper
- 20:46Speaker 1: way to play. Just back in the Eagles here straight up. Wow,
- 20:50Speaker 1: did not see Brandon going in within Eagles leading and
- 20:55Speaker 1: to win that plus money as being his best bet.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Feel feels you know what, it feels like. It feels
- 21:04Speaker 1: like the kind of bet in which legends are born. Simon,
- 21:12Speaker 1: tell me, tell me where you're going with us? I
- 21:15Speaker 1: love it. I mean, you know me, I talked about
- 21:19Speaker 1: all season the Eagles first half was just free money.
- 21:22Speaker 1: We just bet it all year. They're just one of
- 21:24Speaker 1: those teams they just really well prepared and what are
- 21:27Speaker 1: they seven and oh against playoff teams this year in
- 21:31Speaker 1: the first half technically, so one of those teams that
- 21:34Speaker 1: they've played well against the best competition that they faced
- 21:37Speaker 1: all year. Um, no doubt in my mind. Uh, this
- 21:41Speaker 1: game not only will be decided by coaching, but ay
- 21:44Speaker 1: read is an Eagles fan all that can remembers and
- 21:47Speaker 1: reads two minute drills and those blunders. So you're getting
- 21:50Speaker 1: an Eagles team that they're our only hope is that
- 21:53Speaker 1: the Chiefs blow it in that final two minutes of
- 21:55Speaker 1: that first half. It gives you a more confidence taking
- 21:57Speaker 1: Eagles first half. So I'm definitely with him if you
- 22:00Speaker 1: if you're going by gain script the Eagles are down
- 22:03Speaker 1: by a touchdown that first half, that could be a
- 22:04Speaker 1: big problem for them because that means exactly what Brain
- 22:07Speaker 1: was talking about. It means they're gonna have to be passing,
- 22:09Speaker 1: which if they go three and out, that's more time
- 22:11Speaker 1: for my homes get the ball. So you better hope
- 22:13Speaker 1: is an Eagles back or they gotta lead here. So
- 22:15Speaker 1: I like that plus money. But you know what me, uh,
- 22:19Speaker 1: if I'm gonna make that bet, I'll just load up
- 22:20Speaker 1: on the first half and load up on full game.
- 22:22Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd parlay it, but I love it.
- 22:24Speaker 1: I love plus numbers, so I'm not gonna lie. I'm
- 22:26Speaker 1: definitely gonna throw a little on that bet. That's a
- 22:28Speaker 1: that's a nice bet. What is your as we head
- 22:31Speaker 1: into the weekend? Best bet is it still loading up
- 22:36Speaker 1: on the Eagles. Um, I would say my best bet
- 22:40Speaker 1: would be sure. Yeah, that's hard to say because right now,
- 22:46Speaker 1: technically my most money I've had bet is the over.
- 22:49Speaker 1: I wouldn't make that my best bet. That was just
- 22:51Speaker 1: that's just my biggest position as we sit here on Thursday,
- 22:53Speaker 1: UM yeah, I'll go best bet Eagles. I think that's
- 22:57Speaker 1: just a great number whenever you can get it at
- 22:59Speaker 1: so on are under a field goal, it feels the
- 23:01Speaker 1: same thing as its four nineers game where it's most
- 23:03Speaker 1: like you're gonna come down to three. We saw the
- 23:05Speaker 1: Chiefs in that Bengals game. How much luck did the
- 23:08Speaker 1: Chiefs need at the end of that game to get
- 23:10Speaker 1: that field goal to cover that game? So it's one
- 23:12Speaker 1: of those that feels the same thing. Mahomes all year
- 23:15Speaker 1: has that a team that's lacked in talent, and he
- 23:17Speaker 1: just keeps them in every game you can go through
- 23:19Speaker 1: their entire schedule. Man doesn't get blown out. He just
- 23:22Speaker 1: keeps games close. He's just such a fighter. So um,
- 23:25Speaker 1: as we sit here on Thursday, child say best bet Eagles.
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- 25:36Speaker 1: I know this is crazy and I hate doing it.
- 25:41Speaker 1: I don't know how my best bet isn't the under.
- 25:45Speaker 1: I cannot. I want to bet the over so bad,
- 25:48Speaker 1: but I just feel like Chad, you are sharp ball
- 25:52Speaker 1: season riding along with the pros, and now you're going
- 25:55Speaker 1: off reservation. I know, but it seems it's so weird
- 25:58Speaker 1: for me because I know the pros are on the over.
- 26:00Speaker 1: I know it because I've seen the number move and
- 26:03Speaker 1: I know it's pros who are moving the number. You
- 26:04Speaker 1: have talked about it like NonStop, but other pros are
- 26:08Speaker 1: with you. They really disagree with it. So you're you've
- 26:10Speaker 1: got you got, you got smart guys on your side.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Tell you that. I just like, it's like, it doesn't
- 26:15Speaker 1: make any sense to me if you believe in the
- 26:18Speaker 1: Eagles that you don't believe in the under and the
- 26:24Speaker 1: This is such a matchup of are you and Andy
- 26:29Speaker 1: Reid Patrick Mahomes believer or are you a believer in
- 26:32Speaker 1: the rest of the roster? Right, And so if you're
- 26:35Speaker 1: a believer in the rest of the roster, then you
- 26:39Speaker 1: kind of have to believe that this is going to
- 26:41Speaker 1: be an under because of what I said earlier about
- 26:44Speaker 1: the past rush about how we believe the Eagles can
- 26:47Speaker 1: win the game what they historically like to do. Because
- 26:50Speaker 1: because Simon, these are coaches who like to take risks
- 26:56Speaker 1: when it comes to the red zone. As you just
- 26:58Speaker 1: noted with Andy Reid and the too much the under brother,
- 27:01Speaker 1: you got really high variant coaches here. You got high variants, right,
- 27:04Speaker 1: But you also got there at the forty yard line
- 27:09Speaker 1: or five and it's fourth and eight for it field goal.
- 27:15Speaker 1: That's true, which is why I also like, you know,
- 27:18Speaker 1: the prop that Croner has talked about so much, as
- 27:21Speaker 1: will both teams kick a field goal over thirty three yards?
- 27:25Speaker 1: I say, no, yeah, variance. The Eagles break the model
- 27:29Speaker 1: too of they've done so well in fourth down this
- 27:32Speaker 1: year they screw with my model just because of that.
- 27:35Speaker 1: Where even even the Chiefs where I'm downgraded them just
- 27:39Speaker 1: because they don't run the ball in the red zone.
- 27:41Speaker 1: I mean, they're one of these teams that they get
- 27:42Speaker 1: down there, they have that much confidence. In my homes,
- 27:45Speaker 1: they're taking that higher risk. So um, that's another thing
- 27:49Speaker 1: that's good towards you're under. Not only the Eagles do
- 27:52Speaker 1: to have regression on fourth down because they've been so
- 27:54Speaker 1: above board this year. Mahomes is do is do for
- 27:59Speaker 1: some red zone to and over. It's like not the
- 28:01Speaker 1: Josh Allen level right where he was doing one a game,
- 28:04Speaker 1: but you know something, he's gonna give us one. So um,
- 28:07Speaker 1: I know we're talking a little bit of props here.
- 28:08Speaker 1: That's another prop I love, uh is the over in
- 28:11Speaker 1: Mahomes interceptions. That's a that's a fun prop to do. Um.
- 28:14Speaker 1: I think in most books it's minus one time minus
- 28:16Speaker 1: one of love. And so if you're if you're an
- 28:18Speaker 1: Eagles backer, you better be betting that interception because we
- 28:22Speaker 1: need one of those to beat this Chief's team. Brandon,
- 28:24Speaker 1: give me one more best bet. My other best bet
- 28:27Speaker 1: for you is a plus and it's a super So
- 28:31Speaker 1: you're not telling me the name, alright, Alright, give me
- 28:35Speaker 1: Tavante Smith Super Bowl m v P plus thirty. We
- 28:40Speaker 1: gave this one out on the Action Network podcast. You
- 28:43Speaker 1: mentioned that I'm on there twice a week heading into
- 28:45Speaker 1: the Giants game. Gave it out at plus sevent heading
- 28:49Speaker 1: into the Niners plus five thousand. I still like it here.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I like Davante Smith. All right, I'll just I'll just
- 28:55Speaker 1: make the case here. So Vante Smith has been slowly
- 28:59Speaker 1: kind of taking over at least coming equal to a J.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Brown the numbers down the stretch, last seven games before
- 29:06Speaker 1: the Niners. You have to kind of throw that game out.
- 29:08Speaker 1: That wasn't really in a football game, right, Like we
- 29:10Speaker 1: we don't have a quarterback on one side before that game.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Last seven Davante games six and a half catches nine
- 29:17Speaker 1: yards a game five touchdowns. In those seven games. The
- 29:20Speaker 1: Chiefs our bottom five d v A against wide receiver one.
- 29:24Speaker 1: They also are very poor on the right side of
- 29:28Speaker 1: the field. Defending the right side, they are twenty six
- 29:30Speaker 1: and dv o A six On the left side, Davante
- 29:33Speaker 1: aligns up prodominantly on the right, A J. Brown on
- 29:36Speaker 1: the left, and so two of the last four Super
- 29:39Speaker 1: Bowl m vps are receivers. That's where the direction the
- 29:43Speaker 1: NFL is heading. And I think too, if you like
- 29:46Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they're gonna be a lot of talking. We'll
- 29:48Speaker 1: just just play the quarterback. Just play the quarterback to
- 29:50Speaker 1: when m v P. That's your pick. I think with
- 29:53Speaker 1: its Chiefs great. I think mahomes the narrative. They're so strong.
- 29:57Speaker 1: I don't think hurts wins m v P if it's
- 30:00Speaker 1: the Eagles, because the more Eagles stats you're looking at,
- 30:04Speaker 1: like if it hurts his numbers, I project him somewhere
- 30:07Speaker 1: around hundred ninety passing yards in a score, forty rushing
- 30:10Speaker 1: in a score. Does that feel like m v P
- 30:13Speaker 1: numbers to you? Like? That doesn't pop to me. We
- 30:15Speaker 1: don't see huge highlights. He has two passing touchdowns the
- 30:19Speaker 1: last four games. He has two hundreds and passing yards
- 30:22Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And why because the Eagles are winning
- 30:25Speaker 1: as a team. That's the whole cap with the Eagles
- 30:28Speaker 1: is it's not about hurts m v P. It's about
- 30:31Speaker 1: the team thing. I think the better hurts. His numbers
- 30:33Speaker 1: are the last chance the Eagles win the game, and
- 30:36Speaker 1: we know we need a winner to win the m
- 30:37Speaker 1: v P. So give me Davante Smith m v P
- 30:41Speaker 1: plus that's applied three per cent. I make him closer
- 30:45Speaker 1: to eight or nine, So that's triple the value here.
- 30:49Speaker 1: I've still got my tickets from earlier. I'm making it
- 30:51Speaker 1: my best bet. That really is. That's how I play these.
- 30:54Speaker 1: If I find a long shot, I love you. Just
- 30:56Speaker 1: gotta play and go for the ride, dude, I bet it.
- 30:59Speaker 1: While you were talking on fand uh, Simon, you got
- 31:04Speaker 1: anything else you want to say before we hit the
- 31:07Speaker 1: road for Super Bowl fifty seven that we haven't said
- 31:10Speaker 1: in four podcasts previewing the game. Yeah, I would say
- 31:16Speaker 1: it is one game, a lot of rand mess to it.
- 31:19Speaker 1: But your friend, Simon, here's one nine straight. Don't listen
- 31:22Speaker 1: to Chad, do not take the Chiefs take the Eagles
- 31:25Speaker 1: your boys. Man. I didn't say, by the way, no no, no, no,
- 31:27Speaker 1: no no no. I didn't say take the Chiefs. D
- 31:30Speaker 1: like the Chiefs. Chad likes the Chiefs. If Chad was
- 31:32Speaker 1: the Eagles, he'd be all over the Eagles celebrating with me.
- 31:35Speaker 1: He's hesitant. I don't trust him. He's giving me chief vibes.
- 31:39Speaker 1: Um for crazy m v P bets, I'm trying to
- 31:42Speaker 1: think if I have any good ones. I mean, when
- 31:44Speaker 1: I just looked at it, I thought there's a couple
- 31:46Speaker 1: of big values of like random guys like Darius Slay
- 31:49Speaker 1: is eight to one, James Bradberry, who is just as
- 31:53Speaker 1: good he was the Eagles other corner. He's sitting there,
- 31:56Speaker 1: and I think a hundred fift one where I think
- 31:58Speaker 1: they should be closer in value where you never heard
- 32:00Speaker 1: his name, probably Bradbury because he's that good. He doesn't
- 32:03Speaker 1: really give up the many yards. He gets a couple
- 32:05Speaker 1: of picks off my homes and the Eagles win a
- 32:06Speaker 1: low scoring game. That that would be really good value
- 32:08Speaker 1: to me. So um along as the m v P sides,
- 32:11Speaker 1: I would go crazy upside bets because I think Brandon
- 32:14Speaker 1: nailed it where it's it's kind of a quarterback award, Like,
- 32:16Speaker 1: even if you know Hurts doesn't have that good a game,
- 32:19Speaker 1: probably just give it to him because he's young, pretty
- 32:22Speaker 1: damn good looking, and he's the Eagle's head coach, I mean,
- 32:24Speaker 1: the Eagles quarterback. It's like, this is what the NFL wants.
- 32:27Speaker 1: They want these big brand teams to have a Super
- 32:30Speaker 1: Bowl m VP winning quarterback. Um. So yeah, I'm the
- 32:33Speaker 1: other way though. I think this is really gonna be
- 32:35Speaker 1: a shootout, so everyone knows my position and in the
- 32:38Speaker 1: game at this point, I guess I'd just say Hurts
- 32:41Speaker 1: look good in practice because it's Thursday. Um, I don't know.
- 32:45Speaker 1: I'm just feeling confident about them all week leading up
- 32:47Speaker 1: to it. I do think the Chiefs are a really
- 32:49Speaker 1: good team. I just think all your the NFC was better.
- 32:52Speaker 1: People are just blinded by a quarterback play. So to them,
- 32:55Speaker 1: DFC has all the quarterbacks. The public just think that's
- 32:59Speaker 1: the better side. To me, the NFC had the better teams,
- 33:02Speaker 1: the better constructed teams from ground up. That's why I
- 33:04Speaker 1: just think the values there so Eagles and over Chad. Uh.
- 33:08Speaker 1: It is one of those where people gotta check in
- 33:10Speaker 1: Sunday morning for convinced me to get our updates. But
- 33:13Speaker 1: it's looking like Chad's on the Chiefs and the under
- 33:16Speaker 1: and I'm on the Eagles and the over. I would
- 33:18Speaker 1: say I'm definitely on the under. Yeah, but the Chiefs
- 33:22Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't. I'm kind of I know you, Chad,
- 33:27Speaker 1: I know you. I can tell dude, I have not,
- 33:30Speaker 1: honest to God, what I'm really waiting for is I'm
- 33:32Speaker 1: pretty evenly split at this point, Like, unless the game
- 33:37Speaker 1: make the move, you know what you gotta do. Unless
- 33:39Speaker 1: the game lands, you know, Eagles win by one or
- 33:43Speaker 1: two by one, that's not kind of a wash on
- 33:46Speaker 1: the side right now. I'm kind of waiting to see
- 33:49Speaker 1: what happens on Sunday. If the line moves in the
- 33:51Speaker 1: direction of the Eagles and in the Chiefs again, then
- 33:54Speaker 1: I'll probably end up betting the Eagles and being much
- 33:56Speaker 1: heavier on the each At this point, I'm just waiting
- 33:58Speaker 1: for the line to move because I think the public
- 34:00Speaker 1: hasn't come in, But my sides are kind of washed
- 34:02Speaker 1: based on what I did. You know, right when the
- 34:04Speaker 1: lines came out, I realized after I did it, I
- 34:06Speaker 1: kind of fun myself. But whatever. I figured I would
- 34:09Speaker 1: just wait for the lines to move and see my
- 34:11Speaker 1: edge over the course of two weeks and have a
- 34:13Speaker 1: good position to start. All right, before we get out
- 34:15Speaker 1: of your brand and give us one more for the road.
- 34:17Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you just two fun bets,
- 34:20Speaker 1: two fun ones. I know you love the anytime touchdowns, Simon,
- 34:22Speaker 1: I think you're about this one. Gave me the Philadelphia
- 34:26Speaker 1: defense to score touchdown plus seven and fifty. Simon, you
- 34:29Speaker 1: talked about high variants and then turnovers. We have fifty
- 34:32Speaker 1: six Super Bowl so far, twenty one defensive touchdowns in
- 34:36Speaker 1: the Super Bowl thirty seven point five percent of of
- 34:39Speaker 1: touchdowns in the Super Bowl we at least one touchdown
- 34:42Speaker 1: by defense and almost a third of the games and
- 34:46Speaker 1: twenty one of those touchdowns, twenty of them scored by
- 34:49Speaker 1: the winning team. So whoever you like getting the Super Bowl,
- 34:52Speaker 1: you should bet their defense to score any time touchdown.
- 34:56Speaker 1: And it's going up to last thirty super bowls fifteen
- 35:00Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns, that is one every two Super Bowls. We're
- 35:04Speaker 1: getting this at plus seven fifty. Is it because we
- 35:08Speaker 1: got great defenses and the Super Bowl? Is it the
- 35:10Speaker 1: extra week to prep on tendencies. Is it just hey,
- 35:13Speaker 1: this is it? Go for bro, put it all out there,
- 35:16Speaker 1: whatever it is. I have to play that one and
- 35:19Speaker 1: then last one. The most fun bet you can make
- 35:23Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, exclusively at fandwel or sponsor both
- 35:28Speaker 1: Kelsey's to score touchdown two hundred to one. Look, Travis Kelsey,
- 35:34Speaker 1: wheready know about Travis. I don't even to make the
- 35:35Speaker 1: case for that. Travis probably gonna score is anytime touchdown
- 35:39Speaker 1: is the lowest of anything. Jason Kelsey is the whole
- 35:42Speaker 1: story Kelsey Bowl. We're gonna see a mom wearing the
- 35:46Speaker 1: split jersey down the middle. We're gonna have the whole
- 35:48Speaker 1: thing going. Here's why this actually has some like Jason
- 35:52Speaker 1: Kelsey's center. Obviously, centers don't score a lot of touchdowns.
- 35:55Speaker 1: There you guys snapping the ball. Back October five, on
- 35:58Speaker 1: the Pat McAfee show, Nick Sirianni is on. He talked
- 36:02Speaker 1: about how they're bringing They had to give Jason Kelsey
- 36:05Speaker 1: his guy a keg to bribe him back. They're talking
- 36:07Speaker 1: about how nimbly is Nick Sirianni, coach of the Eagle, says,
- 36:11Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we need to report Jason Kelsey
- 36:14Speaker 1: eligible put him in the backfield, give him a couple
- 36:17Speaker 1: of carriers, put him on a screen that's out there.
- 36:19Speaker 1: That's the thing that happened this year. Then January eleven,
- 36:22Speaker 1: less than a month ago, on the New Heights podcast,
- 36:26Speaker 1: which by the way, is the Kelsey Brothers, that's Travis
- 36:29Speaker 1: and Jason's podcast, they're talking about that fun Chief's Circle
- 36:33Speaker 1: play that they did where they ran around the Arctic
- 36:36Speaker 1: Circle snow globe left with the reindeer personnel. They're talking
- 36:40Speaker 1: about it and Travis is hyping it up, and Travis
- 36:43Speaker 1: Kelsey says, quote, we're still waiting on that Jason Kelsey touchdown. Man.
- 36:48Speaker 1: I'm just saying, there's smoke out there. There's some smoke.
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