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History of Championship Editions · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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band. That's right, we've done all the
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work for you. All you have to do is press play
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and listen. My name is Justin.
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You can call me band Curious, because I am indeed curious
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about bands. What we would normally do on
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this show is gather a group of people together.
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We would talk about a band, shower them with love, and then
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we would combine A20 song playlist into 10 and try to get
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you into the band with that top 10 starter kit playlist.
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That's what we would normally do.
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We're not doing that today. Today is a Tuesday and that
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could mean anything really. Historically when I first
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started doing these dailies, we did a walk down memory lane with
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a year by year breakdown of deprogrammed, if that's
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something that would interest you and you just kind of found
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the program. I think we started doing that in
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March. Yeah.
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So a couple weeks back you'd you'd have to go a little way, a
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little ways back to find it. But we did basically the first
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five years and you know, I'll do as we get further into year 10,
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I'll, I'll move on to six and seven.
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Like, you know, maybe every couple months or so might do
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another one. But Gavin asked.
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And instead of doing this as an after the fact, and it might
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garner more conversation on an after the fact, which if an
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after the fact is we have a lot of conversations.
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Let me point that out now. A lot of conversations happen on
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after the fact. patreon.com/oh Hi Justin, $1.00 a month gets
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you those conversations. They coincide with whatever
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conversation that we're having about whatever band.
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So we'll talk about the band for usually an hour and then we will
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have a discussion for, you know, at least 20 minutes.
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Usually a lot more than that. Just saying it's a lot of
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conversation and most of the time it's music centric.
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Not always, but most of the time it's music centric.
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So that's something that's that interests you then, you know, be
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my guest. But that dollar would also get
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you into the Discord, which is where Gavin asked the question
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about Championship editions. So Championship edition is
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really to break it down. Super fan version of
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Deprogrammed, you know, with Deprogrammed like the original
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episodes, the regular episodes, we are trying to, you know,
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bring in songs that are something that would attract you
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to the band. So there's a little bit of
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gamesmanship. Some, some of it is like, you
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know, who else might, depending on who's playing with you, who
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might have this. And, you know, this song really
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attracted me and could really attract somebody else.
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And so it, it sometimes doesn't always equate to the artist's
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best songs. And also a lot of these artists
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have too big of a discog to cover in one episode.
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And initially, you know, with like an Alice Cooper, we did an
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Elvis Costello one, but never an Elvis Costello 2.
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Stevie Wonder, we did two parts. Jay-Z, we did two parts.
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I think that I think we actually did 3 Alice Coopers maybe
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possibly, but there were like a handful of artists that U2 we
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did too. There was a hand.
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There's been a handful of two parters or two plus parters that
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we did. And in lieu of doing that, we
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started doing championship editions.
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Now John in the Discord is almost 1000%, right?
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He, he, he said it. It's because of him, his, he
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joined Deprogrammed essentially because he didn't like our Pearl
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Jam list. And because of that, he was
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hosting a Pearl Jam podcast at the time with Randy and it
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brought Randy on board to the show and a bunch of the people
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that listened to that Pearl Jam podcast start listening and
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being participants in the show. And so I guess they were
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probably bandying about our list and they probably all disagreed
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with it, but they came up with a much like a really clever way to
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tackle what became Championship Edition.
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So most of the time, all three of the ones we've done so far
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anyway have been broken down the disc.
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GOG has been broken down by John.
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So depending on the artist and how much discography you have to
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cover, he breaks it down into like 4, usually 5-4 or five
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different playlists, not eras, because that's not quite right
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either. But like it's, he tries not to
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put, you know, best versus best and worse versus worst.
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That's usually like a beginning, middle end record kind of
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together. And it's broken up that way.
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Like I said, anywhere between 4:00 to 6:00 episodes to go
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through this. And then you do an episode for
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each playlist. So for example, we did Pearl Jam
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1st and Pearl Jam was broken into.
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Well, we put it out AS2 on our feed.
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I think they may have put it out as two, but I think we did.
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I think technically we may have done like 4 and then the Master
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like the big list, the the actual championship list.
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So it's just a like the the way it's different is it's more
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about best as opposed to necessarily thinking about, you
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know, pulling somebody on board, something somebody may find
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interesting. It is it is best songs.
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So we the first one we did was Pearl Jam and it was with all
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the Pearl Jam pod guys. Most of them have come over.
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Curtis initially came over and was doing like, a lot of
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episodes. Patrick has done a couple
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episodes, Joey's done a couple episodes.
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Bradley's done a couple episodes.
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Randy's done a bunch of episodes.
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And John, of course, has basically become #2 on the list.
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I'm sure he's passed Fredo by now.
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Yeah. So yeah, all those guys came
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came on board and have done a bunch of regular D programs off
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of doing Pearl Jam Championship edition.
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We followed that up probably a couple years later.
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It wasn't like a ton later, but it was probably like a good two
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years later. We did Radiohead and again, that
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got broken up into I feel like 6-6 seems right.
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And then that was pure Brian Lewis, John and Ben Cat.
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And I should have hooked up everybody who did it.
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There was one more person and I I only forget her name because
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she she's the only one who so far hasn't come back to do
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another episode. I'm so sorry.
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I'm usually much better with names.
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I can't believe I, I blinked like right as I was about to say
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it. That's awful.
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I feel terrible, but all those people have kind of come on
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board and done, you know, an episode or two.
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And then we did R.E.M. last year, which is mostly all
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regulars. Yeah.
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Gavin, Brian, Gavin, Brian, John, Peter and Otto.
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And that one was like 4 or five. So again, it's really just, you
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know, it doesn't replace the regular episode list, but it
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kind of is people that are more focused on the list rather than
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the discussion in the songs, rather than the discussion of
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the band. So a regular episode is here's
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this love fest about the band, here's some songs that could get
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you into the band. And you know why we think that
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might do that. Championship Edition is really
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kind of just like a battle Royale between super fans.
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And I mean, I'd love to do a Taylor Swift 1.
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I kind of floated that one, that idea out there at one point
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after our Taylor Swift episode initially had caught wind and
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people were really mad at us. I put the idea out.
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It'd be even better now because she's come out with what, four
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or five records since then. I, I feel like a Championship
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Edition now would be like stellar.
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So if you're listening to this and you're a Taylor Swift fan
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and would love I'd, what I would love is for you to come on board
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and do like a regular episode or two first and then jump in and
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do a championship edition. But no one's beholden to that.
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If you are just interested in doing a championship edition,
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then by all means. So ones that we're actively
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working on right now is Green Day, because it looks like we
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should probably be able to make that one happen this year.
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We might be able to make two happen this year because I've
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recorded well into July at this point.
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I have a bunch moving and if I stay with my foot on the pedal
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at least until June, I'm probably going to be well into
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October, fingers crossed. But Green Day looks like it's
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almost a certainty to happen this year.
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John is dying to do The Smashing Pumpkins 1.
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A few things are are a hold up on that.
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Number one, my friend Brian Lewis missed the regular episode
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and I can't even consider it until Brian is fully recovered
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from the stroke and ready to jump in front of a microphone
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again. I'll be touching base with him
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soon to see how he's doing and, you know, see if that's
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something that he's even, you know, thinking about ever doing
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again. I I don't know as it stands, I'd
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I'm not sure, but that's thing one thing two, I'd love to have
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the pump cast guys, Frank and Pat on that episode as well,
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because again, they missed the original episode and Frank had
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mentioned that the pump cast is winding down.
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This is probably the last year he's doing it.
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So like it feels like if pumpkins is going to happen, it
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might be next year, more likely next year.
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It also gives us another year to ingest Aghori Mori May and kind
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of place where autumn is going to, you know, go in all of this
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and maybe, you know, some of this other stuff to hit
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digitally again, like Zeitgeist and Machina 2 to have at the
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ready. Pier Garden by Kaleidoscope to
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be able to listen at the ready. But pumpkins will happen
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question you know, and if it does, I'm likely to to play in
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that. So yeah, I don't know, like a
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weird how one would be fun. The Foo Fighters just released
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their 12th record, I think, so they're up for it now.
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Bands like the Chili Peppers, like, I don't know, like there's
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a lot of bands out there that would be fun to do championship
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editions on Metallica, Megadeth again, Taylor Swift.
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Like it'd be fun to like tackle some of those pop artists in, in
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that way. It'd be fun to kind of take or
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Alice Cooper lists and make a master list.
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I don't know, like the, the, the, it's, it's endless really.
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And now that we have this daily platform, I mean, it's it, it's
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something that'll fit in without being, you know, just something
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randomly going out on the feed occasionally.
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So, Oh yeah, insane composite. I put that one out there.
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That one would be really fun to do.
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I don't know that I don't know that there's anything other than
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pumpkins, maybe local H that I would participate in.
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I'd probably consider Weird Al. I probably consider doing Weird
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Al. I don't know.
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But I feel like I feel like the pumpkins is probably the only
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one that I would participate in. And then the last thing, I think
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most of it so far has been up to John.
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You know, the Gavin asked like kind of how as a matter of fact,
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so I'm not paraphrasing him. Let me go and actually look at
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the question. So I'm not, you know, answering
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questions he didn't even ask because that would be silly,
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wouldn't it? Not sure if this is the daily or
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an ATF, but I'd love to hear a mini episode on the championship
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edition, Championship editions, how they start, what bands have
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done. What is your experience of them?
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My experiences of them has been great so far because generally
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speaking, all I have to do is kind of point the microphone at
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ask a question, point the microphone at somebody, you
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know, I'm not having to put my opinion out there.
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I, I truly get to host those, which technically speaking, I
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don't host deprogrammed because I play deprogrammed like I'm,
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I'm an active participant in every episode.
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So the, the championship editions are fun because I'm
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truly hosting them and I'm seriously just doing kind of
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like a lot of refereeing. What are the challenges in
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booking them? Generally speaking, it's a lot
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of people, usually six or more people.
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The more people you have, the harder it is just to lock them
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down. And the that many people, it's
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usually like we lucked out with the Pearl Jam 1 because I feel
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like we may have only done it over 2 days.
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We may have done it in one. It's hard to remember that back
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that far. But at most we did it in in like
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2 day, you know, thing like we may have done most of the
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episodes at once and then did the finale, came back and done
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the finale on another day. But with all the other ones,
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it's at best recording 2 at a time.
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So it's like you have multiple sessions.
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It won't be so bad this time because usually it's hard
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because I'm trying to manage landing recording dates for
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regular episodes of Deprogrammed and also trying to land
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recording dates for championship editions, which generally
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speaking, even if we're doing 1 episode, usually takes up and
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well over the hour mark for one episode.
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So it's it's just a lot of moving pieces to try to get all
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together. That is the headache of it.
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But like I said, it's a lot less homework, a lot less homework
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for me. So I don't really have to worry
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about that part. We answered what bands are we
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considering for the future? Are there bands that have been
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covered on the program that should have should have been a
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championship edition? And so this is the way we'll
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close it. The answer to that is no, that
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that should have been a championship edition.
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And this is a stupid rule that I've imparted on myself.
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And this is like something Randy John and I actually, I think is
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Randy John Fredo and I talked about on an after the fact once
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because they thought that the way to get around The Beatles is
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to do The Beatles as a championship edition.
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And again, this is a self-imposed rule.
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I could just drop it, but I'm not going to because I'm a
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stubborn old man in my brain. There has to be a regular
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episode first. There had like we have to have
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covered the band already because it's it's not necessarily a list
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contested, which you know, that's a different mini.
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So it's it's hey, you guys did a list, let's do like a better
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list, essentially like best songs list as opposed to trying
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to get somebody on board to the to the band.
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So it's like, again, the difference of a regular episode
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usually usually finds the fans of the band, but it's a regular
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episode of Deprogrammed is an attempt to get somebody into the
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band. Whereas the Championship edition
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episodes are for people that are like super fans of the band and
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already loved the band and like to kind of argue about songs.
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So there. That said, I don't think Sparks
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should have been, but I did leave out Sparks as part of the
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conversation. Sparks should absolutely be a
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Championship edition. That said, also I don't think
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Jenny's up for Championship Edition.
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She doesn't vibe in the whole argument.
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Like she just wants to talk about bands she loves.
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And so like, I can't imagine Jenny jumping over and being on
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board for a Championship edition.
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I could be wrong, I could be putting words in her mouth, and
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for that I'd apologize. But my guess is as much as Jenny
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loves Sparks, if we were to ever do a Championship edition for
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Sparks, I don't think Jenny would be involved.
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But of course I could be wrong. And of course, she's always
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invited. So I think that covers all your
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questions about championship editions.
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So with that, I yammered on entirely too long.
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Sorry about that. We'll see you all tomorrow.