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- 0:00Each time we showed this to a major minor, you know, it was
- 0:03was a very very consistent response. This is a tenet of ten on an
- 0:07opportunity, a big opportunity for grade from surface and scale that would measure in.
- 0:12You know, in our view that the top ten potential global discoveries for
- 0:15Coffer, that constant narrative kept coming back from the majors, which is what
- 0:20drove me and gave me that confidence that we were chasing the right thing.
- 0:24We did consider looking at other assets at one point just to mitigate the risk
- 0:28of this, but the team pulled really strong in Peru and you know,
- 0:32time spent in the community doing great things socially and environmentally, and with with
- 0:36the farming and agriculture we brought in, it paid its dividends and so far,
- 0:41you know, we've been lucky twice out of three times on this project.
- 0:44The Financial Survival Network now more than ever the Financial Survival Network. And
- 0:55welcome. This is Financial Survival Network. I'm your minist Carry Letz, and
- 1:00we have an update on a project that has been going on for so long,
- 1:03finally reaching fruition, talking about particle Metals. Find it at partico metals
- 1:10dot com. CEO, Ivan Bewick is with us now. Ivan, the
- 1:15things are actually starting to happen with Copardico and well some thought it couldn't be
- 1:22done. But with a copper price at four dollars and sixty three cents firm
- 1:26community backing, you've you've actually pulled off the impossible here. Well thanks,
- 1:33Kerry. Look it's it's been some time and a lot of promises were made
- 1:37back in the twenty fifteen to twenty twenty effort where we raise the spent over
- 1:42one hundred million dollars looking for some of the world's largest discoveries, and we
- 1:46came on this Sombrero project, which advertised as an incredible asset by expiration potential,
- 1:53but came with a price which which unfortunately for investors who are extremely thankful
- 1:57for has been time. You know where we're sitting at a threshold here of
- 2:01a major threshold. We crossed with the communities where we've had a chance to
- 2:07live in the community, spend eight years learning about their needs and bring in
- 2:10predominantly agriculture programs to help them, you know, benefit with their nutrition in
- 2:15the Andes, an area that doesn't see much agriculture. These programs it's led
- 2:20to a really strong sustainable relationship between us and them, and it's giving us
- 2:25the ability to drill our first holes here in the coming month or so.
- 2:30We'll be hoping to drill here in June on one of the most coveted copper
- 2:32assets I'm aware of that's available to drill globally at the moment, right And
- 2:38you know, you kind of went through a lot of obstacles to get here,
- 2:43not the least of which was getting the community support, full community support
- 2:46and getting your permits. Yeah, so these obstacles. You know, there's
- 2:51there's two major things we faced here. One is is it expiration? Is
- 2:55it probable enough to be a major shot? You know, is that is
- 2:59that put potential for multiple big discoveries is at present or not? And we
- 3:04got through that through multiple areas of work that we've done, not only demonstrating
- 3:08considerable mineralization on surface we see it in the third dimension with some previous role
- 3:13holes, but we also were challenged with the age of when this mineralization was
- 3:16formed. We and several major mining companies confirmed that it was all formed at
- 3:22the same age as all the major minds nearby on the same mining trend.
- 3:27This is an event in our careers to possibly extend a world class mining trend
- 3:31which would go well beyond a big discovery, would give us the chance to
- 3:35have multiple potential major discoveries. And going back to Orrin in twenty twenty,
- 3:39right before COVID when we decided to do the split, the actual whole spirit
- 3:45of that transaction came from a gentleman that was the head of expiration for BHP,
- 3:50the largest mining companies in the world. This name is Keenan Jennings and
- 3:53if you watch in recent news that Keenan has recently joined our board and he
- 3:57became a shareholder in the company. But he pulled me a side back in
- 4:00twenty eighteen and said to me, Ivan, look, this is at the
- 4:03top of our list for a coveted exploration projects and my favorite one. And
- 4:09if you want an investment from us, or if you want us to eventually
- 4:14consider buying this from you, which is our end business goal to sell to
- 4:16a major once we'd monetize and de risked a lot of the discovery, we
- 4:21would like it separated from your gold and silver assets. So that was the
- 4:25spirit, and we took that forefront where we stumbled first was in twenty twenty
- 4:30one, once COVID was in full effect. We were not able to have
- 4:34community meetings or assemblies, nor did we push them. When people's well being
- 4:40and health was of serious concern and it was at the forefront of everyone's mind.
- 4:44We actually had a chance to step in when governments were burdened with constant
- 4:48issues around their country and we were able to step in into these world communities
- 4:53and help out where the governments weren't quite able to get there, and then
- 4:57further on continue building incredible relations. Bringing in the agricultural programs to help with
- 5:01the nutrition in the region as our first major commitment to these towns. We've
- 5:06now expanded that and now we're actually creating jobs and everything we're doing carry is
- 5:12going to last well beyond whether we find a mine or not. Expiration is
- 5:15a risky business. It comes and goes, but the communities we're impacting with
- 5:19our social efforts are going to be enjoying these positive, sustainable benefits for many
- 5:25decades to come, and that's something we're extremely proud of. The weights to
- 5:29get to being listed, or to the stage of now where we're financing ourselves
- 5:32to drill and list the company. This weight's been tough because it endured that
- 5:35the worst two years that I've seen in my twenty five years being in the
- 5:40business, and probably the same for every mining billionaire entrepreneur I've spoken too well
- 5:45before my time, it was challenging. The cliff that Metals fell off of
- 5:49in twenty one twenty two, in a bit of twenty three, it was
- 5:53quite severe, and I had never seen sentiment lowers, so it pushed a
- 5:58lot of a lot of perseverance, and even at the board level there was
- 6:00concern a year ago. The board wasn't sure we'd make it through. And
- 6:04at the same time, you know, shareholders were frustrated, and it took
- 6:09you know, some check writing for myself and many great shareholders and some new,
- 6:13very big supporters to come online to get us through. And I held
- 6:16on. And you know a lot of people ask me, what was your
- 6:19main ingredient to persevere through all of this. Well, there was three things.
- 6:24There was the opportunity, no question, because it starts there. There
- 6:28was the constant improvement in our relations with the communities that are affected by this
- 6:32project, which was very enticing. And Thirdly, it was the outside interest
- 6:36of major mining companies, and I think we've checked the box of five or
- 6:41six of some of the larger ones in the world, and we kept getting
- 6:45a ten out of ten report card on the expiration opportunity. This certainly doesn't
- 6:48guarantee our discovery. But the way we're looking at this project right now is
- 6:54we view three to or four holes to confirm the thesis that we might have
- 6:59the next potential bombas in the world, and probably it'll take us three to
- 7:02three years minimum to find out it's not there. And that's the longevity that
- 7:06you want to have as an expiration investor behind your investment. You know,
- 7:12we're raising capital right now, and I'm sure we'll get into that in a
- 7:15moment, but we're going to get a couple of years of working capital and
- 7:17four different phases of drilling funded. That's our goal here, so that we
- 7:21can keep testing and testing, and if we get it right early, the
- 7:25chance to perform for a share price is going to be substantial. If it
- 7:29takes a bit more time to get it right, we at least won't have
- 7:30to go back to market to keep raising. So we're at a very very
- 7:34very pivotal flection point with Joe permits in hand that came in about two weeks
- 7:39ago, and getting our capital to go drilling here, which will start in
- 7:43about a month's time after the financing closes in May fifteenth. All right,
- 7:47so let's talk a little bit about the team of how it stands right now.
- 7:53Yeah, that's a great topic. You know, we started with some
- 7:56great geologists from Numont and you know it's rare to see this, but in
- 8:00the case here, you know, I have to say it did. The
- 8:03project actually outlasted some geologists, even though it has all the potential. And
- 8:07this is no fault to them. Is everyone loves the asset, but it's
- 8:11just time and pressure and concerns with industry. What we've been able to do,
- 8:15though, is bring in some new people to the team. Christian Rios
- 8:18or SVP of Corporate Development, who's based out of Lima. He's not new,
- 8:22he's been there from the beginning and he's been our key person, not
- 8:26just with communities arranging all of the great things we've done, but with the
- 8:30government in Peru to get us through the permitting process and give us some really
- 8:33good footing in country. Tim Kingsley's new he's been with us for about a
- 8:37year and a half. He's our VP of Exploration. He's got about nineteen
- 8:41years in the business. He's very prudent. I would say he's an understated,
- 8:46underspoken geologist. And the first thing when I showed him sombrero, when
- 8:50we showed him with our technical team, first thing I asked him was what
- 8:54do you think you know all these majors love the asset, the previous geologists
- 8:58love the asset. And he said, Ivan, I'm not going to tell
- 9:01you until I go see it myself. And he had to go to the
- 9:05project twice before he came back and finally gave me the big thumbs up on
- 9:09the project. And that's important because the more you look at the project,
- 9:13even the rock over my shoulder here in the video here, the more you
- 9:18look at the rock, the more you like it, and you get a
- 9:20bias that develops over time. And bringing somebody in new at the forefront of
- 9:24the project was fresh eyes and fresh perspective. Tim was the first person we
- 9:30added. The second one was Keenan Jennings, who I'd met back when he
- 9:33was with PHP and obviously there was interest in the project. Keenan comes from
- 9:37a very very impressive geological background. He had worked on Outogo for Rio Tinto,
- 9:43he had subsequently worked on had been to Sombrero and worked with a BHP
- 9:46as head of exploration. He actually had a familiarity with lost Bombas that supersedes
- 9:52all of us, where he was mapping lost Bombas back in two thousand with
- 9:56Anglo before that discovery was made. So he came on at the board level.
- 10:03His background has also got an MBA and he's a very very commercial minded
- 10:07economic geologist, so he actually thinks about the monetization part just the same as
- 10:11we do. And the combination with him Tim Kingsley, Christian Rios and Antonio
- 10:16Reebis was formerly the VP of Geosciences for BHP. Having those two executives really
- 10:22gives us the ability to punch well above our belt in terms of technical ability
- 10:26and to measure it a quality that you would hope to see at a major
- 10:31mining company. So that's how we've set ourselves up here as we're about to
- 10:35take on this exciting multi year exploration effort to go find the big One.
- 10:39I couldn't be more happier at the board level as well as on the team,
- 10:43having hungry geologists in their mid forties as well as a senior geologist you
- 10:48know, approaching sixty and early sixties. You got a combination of experience and
- 10:52knowledge with hungary and mature geologist on the team, which is this is one
- 10:56of the best teams I'm aware of globally right now. So this is multi
- 11:01year efforts. Year. It really has been a roller coaster. It's had
- 11:05its ups and downs, but yet you persevered. Yeah, the perseverance it
- 11:11came from the majors. You know, each time we showed this to a
- 11:13major minor, you know, it was was a very very consistent response.
- 11:18This is a tenet of ten on an opportunity, a big opportunity for grade
- 11:22from surface and scale that would measure you know, in our view that the
- 11:26top ten potential global discoveries for copper. That constant narrative kept coming back from
- 11:31the majors, which is what drove me and gave me that confidence that we
- 11:37were chasing the right thing. We did consider looking at other assets at one
- 11:41point just to mitigate the risk of this, but the team pulled really strong
- 11:45in Peru and you know, time spent in the community doing great things socially
- 11:50and environmentally and with the farming and agriculture we brought in, it paid its
- 11:54dividends. And so far, you know, we've been lucky twice out of
- 11:58three times on this project, lucky to find the project and have the opportunity.
- 12:01We've been lucky with the communities to get the access with them, and
- 12:05we can't wait to do more with them and provide additional jobs as we go
- 12:09forward. And the third luck we're going to look for us is at the
- 12:11drill bit to see if we can find something of substantial scale in this rising
- 12:16copper environment. And it is truly a remarkable time. And I wish Kerrie
- 12:20that I could take credit for planning it this well, but the copper market
- 12:24has certainly planned us as we see copper at around four to sixty three a
- 12:28pounds US as we're talking today, and we're just entering copper deficit here,
- 12:33which will be a lot more serious in the next years to come as electrification
- 12:37and the modernization of the planet with the new electric vehicles as well as AI
- 12:41initiatives are really pushing forward on the technical innovation demand. And I think copper
- 12:46as itself, it sits in a very tough spot for quality copper deposits.
- 12:52And then the last part about copper, which is really important and no one's
- 12:54talking about. This is three of the top ten copper minds in the world
- 12:58our schedule to shut down in the next ten years, to be at the
- 13:03end of their mind lives. And this just adds way more to already a
- 13:07really good copper market here of consequence, that's just starting to get started.
- 13:11And you know, the view we had back at Oran was that all commodities
- 13:15would pick up as we're going out to make these world class discoveries, and
- 13:18we certainly see gold and silver are starting to participate. The copper's kind of
- 13:22been the big, the bull leading one that's that's got everyone's attention. It's
- 13:26very easy to understand anybody with an electronic device or an electric vehicle or is
- 13:31building or renovating their house can understand the amount of copper that's needed. But
- 13:35a lot of things that I've said this before, the world got it wrong
- 13:39on the supply side. You know, we saw one minor disruption with the
- 13:43mine in Panama Cobre Panama versus Quantum's mind, and the impact of that is
- 13:48serious. You know, there could be more disruptions. You don't know.
- 13:52But at the same time, on the exploration side, which is what we
- 13:54do, it's even harder to find these things hard enough that will spend half
- 13:58my career chasing a big swing like Sombrero and our Copernicle main flagship asset has.
- 14:05And that's where we are today. We're about to get our financing complete
- 14:09and start with our first drill permits to start drilling in the next thirty to
- 14:11forty days. Amazing, amazing because I've been following the story for the better
- 14:16part of plus to five years now, and I to admit there are times
- 14:22I was scratching my head, thinking can you pull the rabbit out of the
- 14:26hat? Can this really be done? Or is he'd just taken on too
- 14:30big a challenge that no mere mortal can really overcome. Yeah. Well,
- 14:35I'm a shareholder first, Carrie, and i'm a coe second. And you
- 14:39know, from my original position at Oran, I bought over five and a
- 14:43half million dollars of Oran in the open market, up to as high as
- 14:46three seventy five per share. And I didn't buy that for any other reason
- 14:50than personal greed, and I thought we had it. The first half of
- 14:54that was buying because of Committee Bay. The second half of that position was
- 14:58because of the opportunity as Sombrero, and I've added more since then to keep
- 15:01the company going and get to this flection point where we are. I mean,
- 15:05you know, when I look at these companies that I'm involved in any
- 15:09aspect, I always look at as a shareholder first, and that's where the
- 15:11benefit has to come at the end of the day, secondary to the communities.
- 15:16And I learned on the social part with Keegan, our first company in
- 15:18Ghana, West Africa. We impacted eight thousand people with that discovery of fine
- 15:22million ounces, and those people today are continually benefiting from that footprint in terms
- 15:28of what we're doing here, whether we find a mine or not. But
- 15:31even if we do find one, long after the mind's gone or the money's
- 15:35made, this community is still going to be benefiting from all these agricultural programs
- 15:39and many different things that we're going to do with them over the years as
- 15:41we go on this adventure. So that's a really big gratification part. It's
- 15:46not just about the money. It's also about the people. But if you're
- 15:50an investor into our company and you've been able to wait this long and you
- 15:54still have your position. You're very lucky, and if you're new to the
- 15:58story right now, you're even lucky here because you're paying for nine years and
- 16:03you're paying for some perseverance and tenacity that is uncommon, especially in volatile,
- 16:07tough times. But the asset, the background, the feedback from third parties
- 16:12has been strong enough to give us that third party validation that we really have
- 16:17a shot here, and that points to me to the next point we're raising.
- 16:19We announced we're raising fifteen million dollars. We announced that a major mining
- 16:25company is buying nine point nine percent of Copernico, the entire company. This
- 16:29is a significant mote of confidence. Once again. Numont does own eight percent
- 16:33of the company and their most recent position was we want to see what happens
- 16:37with the drill bit. The new company coming in won't be named until the
- 16:41closing of the financing, but they jump that. They jumped the line on
- 16:45four others that we're looking at. It very serious, and the big challenge
- 16:48we had with some of these negotiations was a lot of the bigger miners wanted
- 16:53books to production or ways to invest at the project level, and we felt
- 16:57that would really limit our upside as what we've set out to do for shareholders,
- 17:02so weed it. We picked one of them that fits best with what
- 17:04we were looking for, and we're already developing an excellent relationship with them,
- 17:10and I think they're the right partner right now to drive this thing ahead.
- 17:12And we're going to be in a very very strong financial position here shortly as
- 17:18we close this financing in the coming weeks, and we're above interest on what
- 17:22we went out to raise, which was fifteen million. So we'll just be
- 17:25intelligent on a case by case basis to take the best shareholders and looks to
- 17:29go drill some of the best holes we can in this copper environment. And
- 17:33then I guess that's the next major step for us, and then the question
- 17:37will come down to how do we know if we've got it or not?
- 17:41And that's the next step. So in our presentation you can go to the
- 17:45back of the deck in the appendix, we've got a couple of slides from
- 17:48Los Bambus and if anyone's wondering if we already have holes that indicate that that
- 17:52thesis is in place or if it's going to continue, and if we're on
- 17:56to this big potential thesis that we might have major mind. I'd encourage you
- 18:02when you wait for a draw results to go look at those holes drill that
- 18:04lost Bombus and they range from forty meters to one hundred and fifty meters of
- 18:10point four to one point five percent copper. But they they're right from surface
- 18:15or near surface. They're continuous to a point where Lost Bombus has about one
- 18:19point six billion tons a point six percent copper. And to translate this to
- 18:23gold, that's about fifty million ounces of gold five zero million ounces of gold
- 18:27in gold numbers. And that's what we're looking for in copper scale. To
- 18:32give you kind of the gravity of how great this opportunity really is. Right,
- 18:36and then I guess once the financing is completed, you're moving ahead.
- 18:41Listing is going to occur at some point in the not too distant future.
- 18:45That's that's now the most asked question by shareholders. Everyone's wondering when we're going
- 18:49to list. Where we sit there is. We're filing our last documents.
- 18:53It's an A AIF and an independent technical report called the forty three to one
- 19:00filing those with the completion of this financing with the TSX, and we're looking
- 19:04to apply to list there and we hope to have a listing trading symbol within
- 19:10three to six weeks after that application is filed. It will be up to
- 19:14the exchange and how quick or long that takes, but we've done our best
- 19:17to have all documents in order, so stay tuned for further updates. Will
- 19:21be very, very very formal with our updates as they come, so we
- 19:25can give everybody a price there. Sorry, I'm in a symbol to look
- 19:29forward to for when this company might trade. And the recent financing was done
- 19:33at fifty cents with a half of warrant at seventy five cents. That's good
- 19:37for two years. Just to let everybody know what where we've recently valued the
- 19:41company. That's about a seventy million dollar valuation pre money, and this gives
- 19:45us, you know, I think a very fair opportunity based on the thirty
- 19:48five million we've spent and the nine years of time that we've put in to
- 19:52get to this point. So very exciting four to six weeks ahead from this
- 19:56interview that we're doing here, Carrie can't wait to trade. A very excited
- 20:00to turn the drills and see what we've got, all right, exciting times.
- 20:06I'm really happy you on shares as well in the comparticle and looking forward
- 20:11to when they become free trading on the market. But for sure it was
- 20:18worth holding out just for the story, the excitement and the future potential in
- 20:22any event to go over to coparticometals dot com sign up for email alerts so
- 20:27you will find out when the financing is completed and as well as when the
- 20:33inevitable listing will take place ed If you have any questions, just direct them
- 20:37to me, Carrie Let's k el at Carrie Lutz dot com Ada. Thanks
- 20:41for stopping by giving us this update and we'll look forward to more. Thank
- 20:45you so much, and thanks for your patience and everyone else who had patients
- 20:49with us and those who've written checks to help us get through. Thank you
- 20:52very much for your support. And it's gone to a great place and some
- 20:56great things are finally happening, so look forward to it and thanks again and
- 21:00carry the Financial Survival Network