Latest / Decisions, Decisions / Selective Ignorance: Ep. 86 | Ban Dogs, Ban Laws, Ban Freedom Of Speech Feat. Deante Kyle
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to
- 0:06Speaker 1: another episode of Selective Ignorance. Before we get started, as
- 0:10Speaker 1: you know, it is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, and I
- 0:13Speaker 1: need all of the ladies to go and get their mammograms.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Go ahead and get checked. Get all good with the
- 0:19Speaker 1: titties and the tatas because it's very important to know
- 0:24Speaker 1: your status. If you want some more information, you can
- 0:27Speaker 1: go to breastcancersociety.org. Now let's get into all the ignorant shit, y'all.
- 0:33Speaker 1: We are getting into it with a very special guest
- 0:35Speaker 1: today that you will know because I think he's all
- 0:39Speaker 1: over the internet. We're going to get into some ignorant
- 0:42Speaker 1: takes with Deontay Kyle up first in This Is America.
- 0:46Speaker 1: We are talking about Katie Zachariah, who has been fired
- 0:48Speaker 1: as the White House press secretary with the quickest firing.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Man.
- 0:54Speaker 3: You're fired.
- 0:55Speaker 1: In the country? No, we got some other people we
- 0:57Speaker 1: can add to that list.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I done met Fyre Fest.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Listen, I can't wait to hear it.
- 1:01Speaker 3: Can't wait to hear it.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Then, of course, y'all, we are talking the Paris riots
- 1:05Speaker 1: and more across the world that are drawing attention and critique.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Y'all know this past weekend we had the No Kings
- 1:11Speaker 1: protest that took place all over the country. And people
- 1:14Speaker 1: are comparing the way protests happen in France and in
- 1:17Speaker 1: other countries. compared to BLM and protests here in America.
- 1:21Speaker 1: And of course, we can't have these conversations without color. Then,
- 1:25Speaker 1: and this is not a sports podcast, former NBA star
- 1:28Speaker 1: Amari Stoudemire is officially stepping into a new career in
- 1:31Speaker 1: law enforcement. And the response tends to be different than
- 1:35Speaker 1: Shaq receiving his honorary doctrine from the FBI. What are
- 1:38Speaker 1: the true hypocrisies of our thoughts of Black Americans in uniform?
- 1:42Speaker 1: And is it good for community or not? Then hopefully
- 1:45Speaker 1: we still get our guest here because he got a
- 1:47Speaker 1: hard out because niggas. Celebrities say the darkest things. Floyd
- 1:53Speaker 1: Mayweather endorses Trump again. We are talking about the pipeline
- 1:57Speaker 1: of black capitalism to Trump supporting. Then our last topic
- 2:02Speaker 1: is Killer Mike, who is defending his stance on capitalism.
- 2:06Speaker 1: And we're talking about. The culture we built from limited resources,
- 2:10Speaker 1: transforming creativity into economic opportunity, and if a system built
- 2:14Speaker 1: around private profit can also produce collective liberation.
- 2:19Speaker 3: We are getting into all the things.
- 2:23Speaker 1: It's going to be a little interesting.
- 2:25Speaker 4: You see when I pull up what niggas want to
- 2:27Speaker 4: talk about, niggas change their whole slogan.
- 2:30Speaker 3: Oh, you see the production. Yeah, yeah. It's not ignorant today.
- 2:33Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
- 2:34Speaker 3: Very informed today. It's actually going to get a little ignorant.
- 2:37Speaker 3: I know. I'm going to start off with a.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Little bit of an ignorant take that I have on it,
- 2:41Speaker 1: your take on it. But before we get there, I
- 2:44Speaker 1: got to introduce everybody that's in the room. You already
- 2:46Speaker 1: know I got my super producer, OG Pot Legend, A.
- 2:50Speaker 5: King.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Which, by the way, A.
- 2:51Speaker 3: King, you've been getting so much love.
- 2:53Speaker 1: On the Internet since our Breakfast Club feature. I love
- 2:57Speaker 1: seeing the Internet pour into you and what you've given
- 3:00Speaker 1: to this space. Like, that's been really good to see
- 3:02Speaker 1: in the comments.
- 3:04Speaker 3: I was happy to see y'all up there, too.
- 3:07Speaker 2: I think.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, nigga. What the fuck I'm talking about, nigga?
- 3:10Speaker 3: We root for us, right? I love seeing Deontay and Kat.
- 3:13Speaker 6: Like.
- 3:13Speaker 3: I shared that shit. We the new Avengers, bro. No,
- 3:15Speaker 3: you did. We the new Avengers. Two men, one mic, man.
- 3:17Speaker 3: That's y'all new pod right there.
- 3:18Speaker 1: No, two men, one mic is crazy.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wild. Two girls in a cup.
- 3:24Speaker 1: We also got the king of headlines, Nathan Jolly.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Pod blessing all the yap niggas. What up, what up,
- 3:30Speaker 3: what up, what up, what up?
- 3:31Speaker 1: And then we have y'all from the Grits and Eggs
- 3:34Speaker 1: pod and... The nigga that y'all just see facing the
- 3:38Speaker 1: camera with all the art behind him with a lot
- 3:40Speaker 1: of shit to say with his microphone. Y'all, we got
- 3:42Speaker 1: Deontay Kyle and Big Cat, who got a mic because y'all,
- 3:50Speaker 1: he always got something to say.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, calm down.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Hey, just make sure you calm down.
- 3:55Speaker 4: Hey, you remember last time we seen her, when we
- 3:57Speaker 4: first rocked with her, she had the Italian look on
- 3:59Speaker 4: the Sicilian body.
- 4:01Speaker 3: The slick back? The slick back, yeah. Everybody from the 313.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Oh, we get back to it.
- 4:08Speaker 3: You said she was cranking that Marissa Tomei?
- 4:10Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Did you just slim shake? She look like she enjoyed
- 4:16Speaker 3: a nice affogato that day. You're right. You know what
- 4:19Speaker 3: I mean? The two Utes. I digested it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 4:22Speaker 3: That is... Aperitif.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Un aperitif.
- 4:26Speaker 3: You know what?
- 4:27Speaker 1: I actually don't like this. No, no, this is insane.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Mandy, you my nigga, bro.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I know, but this is crazy that, like... I get
- 4:34Speaker 1: ganged up on all the time.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Like, whoa! Not in this climate. This is selective ignorance.
- 4:42Speaker 3: You gonna call black men gang members?
- 4:44Speaker 2: Gangbangers?
- 4:45Speaker 1: Actually, and I won't just because in the state of Florida,
- 4:48Speaker 1: it may come back and get you.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dicey. Allegedly. It's tricky.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Let me not call y'all any types of gangs. So,
- 4:57Speaker 1: we normally like to start off the pod with a
- 4:59Speaker 1: quick little ignorant thought or take. Something that happened over
- 5:02Speaker 1: the last week. And I wanted to.
- 5:07Speaker 1: I think hand off my black card for just a
- 5:10Speaker 1: little bit because something just happened this past week and
- 5:12Speaker 1: I realized.
- 5:14Speaker 3: That I might not be that black. You said you realized?
- 5:19Speaker 1: Okay, hear me out, hear me out, hear me out.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Self-awareness podcast. You know how I.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Told you I went to WNBA All-Star weekend and I
- 5:27Speaker 1: realized I wasn't that gay?
- 5:28Speaker 3: I feel what you're saying. You feel me?
- 5:32Speaker 1: So I get back from our New York trip and
- 5:35Speaker 1: I only have Two days before I have to go
- 5:37Speaker 1: to L.A. And I experienced probably the most torturous thing
- 5:44Speaker 1: that could ever happen to a human being. The CIA
- 5:47Speaker 1: didn't waterboard me. This isn't what was happening, but it
- 5:50Speaker 1: felt what like waterboarding would be. And this is something
- 5:54Speaker 1: that I think most black people are able to just
- 5:56Speaker 1: live through. And I couldn't. So my battery is dying
- 6:00Speaker 1: on my fire detector and the beat.
- 6:04Speaker 3: That y'all can normally just live through. You know how
- 6:08Speaker 3: it is. It's the y'all part. This is what I said.
- 6:12Speaker 3: I said, ooh, my black card kind of got to.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Go because, like, you know, you watch the videos and
- 6:16Speaker 1: you hear a little beep in the background and everybody's
- 6:17Speaker 1: just like, ooh, he ignoring the beep in the background.
- 6:21Speaker 3: I can't ignore the beep.
- 6:22Speaker 1: And I'm like, my blackness isn't allowing me to ignore
- 6:24Speaker 1: the beep. I literally feel like I'm being waterboarded by
- 6:27Speaker 1: the CIA every time I hear that beep. So I
- 6:30Speaker 1: have TaskRabbit coming over to change it expeditiously.
- 6:33Speaker 3: To change the.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Like, I can't live that way.
- 6:35Speaker 4: See, you doubled down on that cracker shit just now.
- 6:39Speaker 4: I got task grabbing coming, niggas.
- 6:41Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. That's not the white people. I'm
- 6:44Speaker 1: just a girl. You thought I was going to get
- 6:46Speaker 1: on a ladder? Yeah, for sure. Whenever anyone comes to
- 6:51Speaker 1: my house, and D, you're not a man.
- 6:53Speaker 3: I ain't going to hold you.
- 6:54Speaker 1: But D even tightened, like, I had a loose screw
- 6:56Speaker 1: on my toilet paper thing. I don't really get out
- 6:59Speaker 1: the tools.
- 7:00Speaker 4: I'm going to keep it a break with you. Let
- 7:02Speaker 4: me show you solidarity real quick. I did just order
- 7:05Speaker 4: a new bed and an armoire.
- 7:07Speaker 3: For my daughter and an armoire for my room. I'm
- 7:10Speaker 3: not going to lie, an armoire is very... And look,
- 7:13Speaker 3: but here's the thing. Hit a nigga up on TaskRabbit.
- 7:18Speaker 3: You did. Because I'm busy. You know, because I'm busy.
- 7:20Speaker 1: You ain't put used to those hands as a man?
- 7:22Speaker 3: Not no more, baby. Men don't build houses like they
- 7:25Speaker 3: used to.
- 7:27Speaker 4: So, Tash Rabbit, what was your selection process in picking
- 7:33Speaker 4: who was going to be the dude?
- 7:34Speaker 1: Oh, I got the same guy.
- 7:35Speaker 3: Okay.
- 7:35Speaker 1: I got the same guy. And it's great because.
- 7:37Speaker 3: Do you judge? Do you like... I'm going to keep
- 7:39Speaker 3: it a profile. This nigga have 150 reviews, still five stars.
- 7:42Speaker 3: I was like, this is my man right here. Damn. Yeah, no, no, no.
- 7:45Speaker 3: That's consistency for your ass.
- 7:46Speaker 1: He's a black guy. He's great.
- 7:48Speaker 3: He does everything.
- 7:49Speaker 1: He on my TV. Like, so much so to where, like, well,
- 7:52Speaker 1: I have brick walls. So even my landlord came in
- 7:55Speaker 1: and was like, how did you get a TV on
- 7:57Speaker 1: the wall? I said, blackness.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Now we back on black. Now we back in black.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Now we back in black. You feel me?
- 8:05Speaker 1: He didn't know how to go. But no, it is
- 8:10Speaker 1: different than the cleaning. Clearly you know who I want
- 8:13Speaker 1: to clean my house.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Eastern European.
- 8:16Speaker 5: Oh no. She want their last name to end with
- 8:19Speaker 5: an A, O, or Z.
- 8:20Speaker 3: Nah, I want a fucking white woman in my building. Wait,
- 8:23Speaker 3: you want a white cleaner? Yeah.
- 8:25Speaker 1: Why?
- 8:25Speaker 3: Eastern European specifically. Why?
- 8:27Speaker 2: Olga?
- 8:28Speaker 3: Yeah, one of them. Or Alexandra. Yeah.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Wait, why do.
- 8:31Speaker 3: You want them? Just to be able to direct them. Oh.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Okay, race play.
- 8:36Speaker 3: With aggression or? Miss the spot. I'm talking shit. Nigga
- 8:43Speaker 3: walk around spilling Kool-Aid like, ah, ah. I start talking.
- 8:49Speaker 1: What is wrong with you?
- 8:50Speaker 4: I start talking real prim in that bitch.
- 8:55Speaker 3: Okay.
- 8:55Speaker 4: Is this what I'm paying for? God, you can't find
- 9:00Speaker 4: good work these days. Nobody wants to do their fucking job.
- 9:04Speaker 4: Nobody wants to work anymore.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Nobody wants to do their fucking job. What happened to America?
- 9:09Speaker 3: We used to be a proper country with morals and ethics,
- 9:12Speaker 3: and now look at you. I know where Eastern Europeans
- 9:15Speaker 3: was thankful to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's your gratitude? Thankful?
- 9:18Speaker 1: Nah, they was just destroying everything.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Ellis Island is white. All right, all right. That's a
- 9:24Speaker 3: different white. That's a different white.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Before we get into This Is America, do we have
- 9:28Speaker 1: any other ignorant takes? beyond the armoire.
- 9:31Speaker 3: I didn't even.
- 9:33Speaker 4: Can we decrease the dog population by, like, 40%?
- 9:36Speaker 3: Wait, dog? I agree.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Just coming from L.A., do y'all know that there is
- 9:40Speaker 1: a part of the food menu, there's a spot for
- 9:43Speaker 1: dog food?
- 9:44Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Like, it was too much. Like, there was dogs at
- 9:47Speaker 1: a rooftop.
- 9:48Speaker 3: Like, I'm already.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Like, what are we doing?
- 9:49Speaker 3: We talked about this before.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Now, if I was to chunk your dog off the
- 9:53Speaker 4: rooftop now, what would that be?
- 9:55Speaker 3: Okay, now, that is doing a little bit much.
- 9:57Speaker 4: I'm just saying, just to make an example. Just to
- 10:00Speaker 4: show niggas how serious I am.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Well, that is, I think PETA would have something to say.
- 10:05Speaker 3: PETA got something to say about everything.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Yeah, everything.
- 10:08Speaker 3: There's nosy white people right there.
- 10:09Speaker 1: So you said you want to decrease the dog population by?
- 10:12Speaker 3: Like 40%.
- 10:14Speaker 1: You think it's too many pets?
- 10:15Speaker 3: It's too many pets. It's too much. I'm walking in
- 10:17Speaker 3: a restaurant. Your dog's sitting there. I don't care about
- 10:19Speaker 3: how well behaved your dog is. The car is right there.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Crack a window. You'll be back in 45 minutes with
- 10:25Speaker 3: good money.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:26Speaker 3: In the 90s, when you was walking through a parking lot,
- 10:28Speaker 3: you hear dogs barking. Then you know, I'm in this bitch.
- 10:32Speaker 3: I'm in this motherfucker. You know what I mean?
- 10:34Speaker 4: I would assume that maybe we can do some deep...
- 10:37Speaker 4: If we want to really structure something around dogs, let's put...
- 10:40Speaker 4: some shade in the parking lot. So we're not just
- 10:43Speaker 4: walking through a straight hot ass concrete structure. Shade the
- 10:47Speaker 4: parking lot, crack the window, I'll be back in 45 minutes.
- 10:50Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that.
- 10:51Speaker 3: And don't let nobody, and also, nobody gonna break in
- 10:54Speaker 3: the car if a dog in it. How about that?
- 10:56Speaker 1: Oh, that'll definitely work here in Atlanta.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Now, depending on what type of dog you got. These
- 11:01Speaker 3: niggas will steal your dog. Oh yeah, you can't have
- 11:04Speaker 3: a Frenchie in the... Yeah, no Frenchie, but leave the
- 11:07Speaker 3: Frenchie at home.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another one that y'all lie to yourselves about.
- 11:12Speaker 1: They have the most, the worst health. They shit and
- 11:16Speaker 1: piss everywhere. Then they got little runny noses. I don't
- 11:18Speaker 1: know how y'all rebranded the cuteness of Frenchie.
- 11:23Speaker 4: It's also just like, it's not a functional animal.
- 11:28Speaker 1: No, it's not.
- 11:29Speaker 3: It's just there.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it. It's okay. We're promoting, you know,
- 11:35Speaker 1: accepting all. Things on the spectrum. Frenchies are definitely on
- 11:38Speaker 1: the spectrum.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:40Speaker 1: What? Is that problematic?
- 11:42Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think it's pretty... I think that
- 11:44Speaker 3: that's the dog that... It's a Down syndrome dog?
- 11:47Speaker 1: Kind of.
- 11:48Speaker 3: It is, right? A little bit.
- 11:49Speaker 1: That's what Frenchies are. A little bit. And they've rebranded to.
- 11:52Speaker 3: Like, they're having a great time. It costs a lot.
- 11:54Speaker 3: But they don't know no better.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Damn.
- 11:58Speaker 3: ASPCA ain't fucking with us.
- 11:59Speaker 1: No, they're not. We'll never get a half of them.
- 12:02Speaker 3: It's okay.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I do promote, guys, if you want a dog, go
- 12:06Speaker 1: and get them from the animal shelter. Save them from
- 12:09Speaker 1: that because... Not even that, man.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Just... What? Oh, wrap it up. If the dog doesn't
- 12:15Speaker 3: have a job, nigga, if the dog isn't herding, if
- 12:19Speaker 3: the dog isn't protecting... Wrap it up.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Well, you know that they're service animals now. They're for
- 12:25Speaker 1: mental health.
- 12:26Speaker 3: Wrap it up. Wrap it the fuck up. They abused
- 12:31Speaker 3: that like handicap permit. Get your fucking pup off the plane, nigga.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Get your pup off the plane.
- 12:35Speaker 3: You remember them niggas used to go under the plane.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Keep your dog out the shopping cart.
- 12:42Speaker 4: I don't want your fucking labradoodle in the fucking produce section, nigga.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Or I throw a Ghirardelli dark chocolate on the floor
- 12:50Speaker 3: and wipe that whole little shit out. No, they can't
- 12:55Speaker 3: eat grapes.
- 12:55Speaker 1: I know they can't eat grapes.
- 12:56Speaker 3: You can't eat grapes. You can't eat dark chocolate. And
- 12:58Speaker 3: we're going to see how it be like.
- 13:02Speaker 1: By the way, we have dog owners that I think
- 13:04Speaker 1: feel offended about.
- 13:06Speaker 3: You see, you're a real nigga. You know what I'm saying?
- 13:11Speaker 3: Keep your dog out of human space.
- 13:12Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
- 13:13Speaker 3: Park. Sidewalk.
- 13:16Speaker 1: And like, where are the.
- 13:17Speaker 3: Dogs pissing and shit in New York? We can move on. Oh,
- 13:20Speaker 3: on the sidewalk.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 13:22Speaker 3: All the communal spaces. All the communal spaces. It's bad.
- 13:25Speaker 1: There's not enough grass in New York.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Decreased by 60% in New York. 1,000.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Oh, every time I see a big dog in New York,
- 13:31Speaker 1: I feel bad for the dog. Like, where are you living?
- 13:33Speaker 3: Yeah, what you doing?
- 13:35Speaker 1: Like, I know the humans are already living in small quarters.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Where is the dog at?
- 13:40Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, I see a husky in Georgia.
- 13:41Speaker 6: Like, bro.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Take that nigga north.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Take him to Alaska.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Yeah. He's out of bounds. Well, let's get into it, y'all.
- 13:52Speaker 3: This is America.
- 13:55Speaker 1: After two days of defending herself on cable news after,
- 13:58Speaker 1: of course, she was questioned about the ESQ following her
- 14:02Speaker 1: name and never actually passing the bar, Katie Zachariah has
- 14:06Speaker 1: been fired after she was kind of told to resign.
- 14:09Speaker 3: She kind of resigned.
- 14:10Speaker 1: She kind of got fired as the White House press secretary.
- 14:14Speaker 1: She lasted less than a week on the job.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Thoughts? I'm not going to lie.
- 14:20Speaker 1: When I saw it, I was just like, okay. A
- 14:24Speaker 1: part of me was pissed off because she was actually
- 14:27Speaker 1: representation of DEI. A lot of it helped white women
- 14:30Speaker 1: get roles like that. And she was in there and
- 14:33Speaker 1: couldn't even goddamn read and got a goddamn job.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Yeah, she was crazy.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Like, the bitch couldn't read and then.
- 14:38Speaker 3: She read her directions.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, wow. You got rid of
- 14:41Speaker 1: DEI and then used DEI for your own goddamn place.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Pretty much. Hated it.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Hated her. But clearly she has another job.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Well, her first job was dick riding. That's how she
- 14:52Speaker 3: got the job in the first place. I mean, she
- 14:53Speaker 3: looks like Ivanka. Yeah.
- 14:55Speaker 4: Trump openly wants to fuck his daughter, so.
- 14:59Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Allegedly.
- 15:01Speaker 3: I mean, that's what that was. No, it's not allegedly.
- 15:04Speaker 1: He said that. He said it?
- 15:05Speaker 3: He said, if she wasn't my daughter, I'd be with her.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:09Speaker 3: And they cheered.
- 15:10Speaker 1: He has said that.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Like, every time we talk about.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Trump, I hear even more sick shit that this motherfucker
- 15:15Speaker 1: has said.
- 15:16Speaker 3: And he watching his constituents booty. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:20Speaker 3: He was a butt watcher. A butt watcher, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:22Speaker 3: Cheek watcher.
- 15:22Speaker 4: Oh, he was in a rally describing, I forget what
- 15:24Speaker 4: the senator was.
- 15:25Speaker 3: He was trying to see if he was fit for office. What?
- 15:32Speaker 3: He was trying to see if he was fit for office.
- 15:34Speaker 3: I looked at his shoulders, I looked at.
- 15:35Speaker 5: His traps, I looked at his ass, and I said, yeah,
- 15:39Speaker 5: that's the guy.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
- 15:44Speaker 3: It's a crazy, like, the whole thing, like, you scanning
- 15:47Speaker 3: this man. Yeah, the whole package. You want to know
- 15:49Speaker 3: everything about that man. At a rally, dude. Yeah, at
- 15:51Speaker 3: a rally. I'll be honest.
- 15:53Speaker 1: I wish we had her just a little longer.
- 15:56Speaker 3: Just for the jokes?
- 15:57Speaker 1: Just for the jokes, I wish we had her just
- 15:58Speaker 1: a little bit longer.
- 15:59Speaker 3: I'm going to say this. Um.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Again, nobody does fake jobs and degrees better than blacks.
- 16:06Speaker 4: Because a nigga would have had that job for at
- 16:08Speaker 4: least two months.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Oh, easily.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:10Speaker 3: Because Dr. Cheyenne Bryant still, I mean, we're still calling
- 16:13Speaker 3: her doc. Still around. We're still calling her doc.
- 16:15Speaker 5: Plus, a nigga that's unqualified for a job that they got,
- 16:18Speaker 5: they're going to do their best to finagle, finesse, and
- 16:21Speaker 5: keep that shit for.
- 16:22Speaker 3: As long as possible. Why people don't feel like they
- 16:25Speaker 3: have to? No, she was clearly unfit for that gig.
- 16:27Speaker 1: For sure.
- 16:28Speaker 3: And then... I just seen it as like, all right, man,
- 16:31Speaker 3: Trump want to fuck her. That's all that is.
- 16:33Speaker 5: Oh, no, that's... But he's a funny nigga, too, because
- 16:36Speaker 5: of how he fired her. He was like, he came
- 16:37Speaker 5: to her and was like... You don't really want to
- 16:40Speaker 5: do this, do you? You could be happy somewhere else. Like,
- 16:42Speaker 5: he talked to her like he was saving a stripper.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Like, dog.
- 16:46Speaker 3: How the fuck? Just tell her she fired. You go
- 16:49Speaker 3: on TV and tell everybody they fired. Now you got
- 16:51Speaker 3: this white heifer over here.
- 16:52Speaker 1: Now you got to kowtow to her.
- 16:54Speaker 3: He didn't need a celebrity apprentice. Right. And the night
- 16:57Speaker 3: after she got fired, she went to go have dinner
- 16:58Speaker 3: with J.B. Vance. They smoothed it over, made sure her
- 17:00Speaker 3: emotional state was okay. They the toss around boys, ain't they? Oh, 100%. 100%.
- 17:07Speaker 3: That's a terrible roster to toss around. I think they
- 17:08Speaker 3: ordered it, too, that she would reassign. Reassign.
- 17:12Speaker 1: So, do we know what her role is now?
- 17:15Speaker 5: She be a White House dick rider like she was
- 17:17Speaker 5: before she got the job.
- 17:19Speaker 3: She on head duty.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Y'all say... You said you've gotten fired.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Head of state.
- 17:24Speaker 1: You said you've gotten fired quicker than she did?
- 17:26Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
- 17:26Speaker 1: What was the job?
- 17:29Speaker 4: I don't know if I got fired or I quit
- 17:31Speaker 4: or it's a mixture of both. But I was working
- 17:35Speaker 4: in this construction shit. And they put me on like
- 17:38Speaker 4: that sign, like the sign shit.
- 17:40Speaker 3: Oh, slow stop.
- 17:41Speaker 4: And I was like, I was like, how long am
- 17:43Speaker 4: I supposed to do this? And it was like, oh yeah,
- 17:45Speaker 4: this is like 10 hours.
- 17:46Speaker 3: I was like. What?
- 17:48Speaker 1: Oh, wait, you quit.
- 17:49Speaker 4: I said, I'm stopping with somebody. I was like, I
- 17:54Speaker 4: was like, nigga, I'm not doing this for 10 hours.
- 17:55Speaker 4: He was like, you can leave. I was like, I'll leave.
- 17:57Speaker 3: I'll be out then. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was like
- 17:58Speaker 3: 30 minutes in. Damn. Oh, wow.
- 18:01Speaker 1: What about, what about.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Did they pay you for that 30?
- 18:03Speaker 2: Huh?
- 18:03Speaker 3: Did they pay you for the 30? Yeah, I think so,
- 18:05Speaker 3: but shit. What could it have been?
- 18:08Speaker 1: It cost more to print that check out than it was.
- 18:11Speaker 3: I think the nigga dipped in his pocket like, here,
- 18:13Speaker 3: just take a dump, man. That's crazy.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Take a dump, have a date.
- 18:16Speaker 5: When I see these niggas, they like to be having fun.
- 18:17Speaker 5: I be seeing niggas with their pods on. They probably
- 18:20Speaker 5: be listening to Grits and Eggs. I be seeing niggas
- 18:22Speaker 5: in there doing the knowledge and sometimes niggas be dancing
- 18:24Speaker 5: and shit.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Those are probably people also on the spectrum.
- 18:27Speaker 3: Yeah. I can't turn my mind off. Like, I need
- 18:32Speaker 3: to be in motion doing shit.
- 18:34Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Because.
- 18:35Speaker 4: I'm going to just overthink the position. And that's what
- 18:37Speaker 4: I started doing.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Like, yo, I'm really a nigga just going to turn
- 18:40Speaker 3: in signs all day.
- 18:42Speaker 1: What was the quickest job you quit or got fired?
- 18:45Speaker 5: My first job was at Baskin Robbins. And the manager,
- 18:51Speaker 5: my manager was the son of the owner. And a
- 18:53Speaker 5: nigga came to me one day. This is probably like 19.
- 18:56Speaker 5: I don't even think I had a driver's license yet.
- 18:57Speaker 5: This is probably like 95, some shit. The nigga came
- 18:59Speaker 5: to me one day and was like, I don't know
- 19:02Speaker 5: if this is going to work out. you are over
- 19:05Speaker 5: scooping the ice cream. And every time you over scoop
- 19:07Speaker 5: the ice cream, it costs us 38 cent. And that
- 19:09Speaker 5: 38 cent compounds the X, Y, Z amount of dollars
- 19:11Speaker 5: per year for us that you're costing us.
- 19:14Speaker 3: And so if you can't get these scoops right, we're
- 19:15Speaker 3: going to have to let you go.
- 19:16Speaker 1: You can't get these scoops right.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:18Speaker 1: And you ain't get them right.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Hell no. Fuck him. Okay. It was a big ass
- 19:21Speaker 3: white man driving a Mazda Miata. You can't talk to me.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Okay.
- 19:26Speaker 3: That's real.
- 19:26Speaker 1: You can't talk to.
- 19:27Speaker 3: Me about nothing.
- 19:28Speaker 1: What about you, King?
- 19:30Speaker 3: High school.
- 19:31Speaker 4: I thought I got suited up, had the resume that
- 19:34Speaker 4: had nothing on it. And I remember I was like, damn,
- 19:38Speaker 4: all these people here, you know, high school kids.
- 19:40Speaker 1: I'm like, all right.
- 19:41Speaker 4: And I go in there, he sit me down. He's like, yo, man,
- 19:44Speaker 4: are you connected to your community?
- 19:46Speaker 3: I said, well, okay. Yeah. Well. he pulled out this box, briefcase,
- 19:51Speaker 3: and it was knives. Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh, Vector? Vector knives.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Rob Markman, Jr.
- 19:54Speaker 4: I didn't know what it was before going there, though.
- 19:56Speaker 4: It was just like, yo, you get commission, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 19:59Speaker 3: You know, you're a high school kid.
- 20:00Speaker 4: You don't know what they're doing. Y'all get there, I said,
- 20:02Speaker 4: say what? So then he said, yeah, the knife set
- 20:04Speaker 4: is 400. I was like, oh, this nigga want me
- 20:06Speaker 4: to sell $ 400.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Knives to who?
- 20:08Speaker 4: My mama got better knives for one third of that price.
- 20:11Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 20:12Speaker 3: And I agreed to do it. And I was like, no,
- 20:14Speaker 3: I'm not doing this shit.
- 20:15Speaker 1: How long did you agree to do it for?
- 20:16Speaker 3: Oh, that shit was.
- 20:18Speaker 4: I think I showed up at the spot one time
- 20:20Speaker 4: and they would give you all this stuff. And I
- 20:22Speaker 4: was like, I'm not doing it.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about... I got scammed into that too.
- 20:25Speaker 3: I was disappointed too.
- 20:26Speaker 1: When I first moved here from high school, this is
- 20:31Speaker 1: where you could find jobs on Craigslist. So Craigslist used
- 20:34Speaker 1: to be like the classifieds. So I ended up getting
- 20:37Speaker 1: a job on Craigslist, and it was commission, commission-based, but
- 20:42Speaker 1: they were like, you can make so much money in
- 20:44Speaker 1: a day.
- 20:44Speaker 3: That's how they get you. Guess where I.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Stood for my first day and my last day at
- 20:50Speaker 1: a gas station. Guess what I was selling?
- 20:51Speaker 3: Oh, man.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Power steering fluid and washer windshield fluid. And so as
- 20:57Speaker 1: people left, I had to listen.
- 21:00Speaker 3: It was bad. Listen, I just needed money, bitch.
- 21:02Speaker 1: At this point, I was almost just selling my soul.
- 21:05Speaker 3: Like, you want to help me out?
- 21:06Speaker 1: I need you to buy this shit, which actually I
- 21:08Speaker 1: thought was good because I used to work at Champs.
- 21:10Speaker 1: And the way you used to have to add on.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Socks and sneaker cleaner, I kind of.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Was just like, hey man, I don't know if you
- 21:16Speaker 1: need it or not, but one day you're going to need,
- 21:17Speaker 1: just buy this shit. You need socks, you need shoe cleaner,
- 21:20Speaker 1: you're going to need power steering fluid, you're going to
- 21:21Speaker 1: need windshield wiper fluid. Just buy it. But yeah, being
- 21:25Speaker 1: out there for eight hours at a gas station, oh no,
- 21:27Speaker 1: they didn't see me no more.
- 21:28Speaker 5: When I worked at Just for Feet, I used to
- 21:29Speaker 5: body that shoe cleaner sock game.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Just for Feet just made you so old. Oh, Just
- 21:34Speaker 3: for Feet, nigga.
- 21:35Speaker 5: We was in there hooping, playing 21. and then running
- 21:37Speaker 5: to the back to sell new balances.
- 21:39Speaker 1: By the way, just for feet, having a whole basketball court.
- 21:42Speaker 3: Nigga, we played... I mean, things just were better. It
- 21:45Speaker 3: was a simpler society, bro. You used to be able
- 21:49Speaker 3: to get the two-person.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Yeah, dog, like.
- 21:52Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is, I was always, like, a
- 21:55Speaker 4: terrible salesman.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Because it's like... I just don't feel comfortable lying to
- 22:00Speaker 3: you like this.
- 22:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:01Speaker 3: I want to lie on my own accord.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
- 22:04Speaker 3: I want to lie about shit I care about. What
- 22:07Speaker 3: shit do you lie about?
- 22:08Speaker 1: What shit do you lie about? Uh-huh, let's go.
- 22:11Speaker 3: It just depends on what the situation is. It just depends.
- 22:18Speaker 1: It depends. It depends.
- 22:19Speaker 3: I like lying to strangers at the airport. What do
- 22:21Speaker 3: you lie to them about? Just what my job is.
- 22:23Speaker 1: You just definitely say you're a rapper, huh?
- 22:25Speaker 3: No.
- 22:26Speaker 2: No?
- 22:27Speaker 3: That was the white shit. You know what I mean?
- 22:30Speaker 3: Rap is anonymous. You know what I mean? We're going
- 22:32Speaker 3: to have a scoreboard. Black, white. Score one for the whites.
- 22:38Speaker 3: Score one for the whites.
- 22:41Speaker 4: What do you say you're doing? Nah, I just tell
- 22:42Speaker 4: them dumb shit like at an airport bar. I told
- 22:46Speaker 4: her I was the social media.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Manager for Wendy's. I was like, you know how to
- 22:52Speaker 3: look clever like tweets? That's me. Wait, in the terminal?
- 22:55Speaker 1: You don't be in the lounge?
- 22:55Speaker 3: The airport bar.
- 22:57Speaker 1: I know. You don't be in the lounge?
- 22:58Speaker 3: No, I don't. She's trying to peasantize people. Hey, yummy? Yeah, yeah.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Give her two for that. That was a three-pointer. That
- 23:07Speaker 3: was a two. That was a two. Yeah, that was
- 23:10Speaker 3: a two. That was a two. But listen, I'm a
- 23:13Speaker 3: man of people.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Okay.
- 23:14Speaker 3: I don't have to squirrel away. But, yeah, I just
- 23:20Speaker 3: was like, yeah, social media. All those tweets, that's me.
- 23:24Speaker 4: They stole my whole flow. You see, once I did it,
- 23:26Speaker 4: now everybody's like, bro, that's fucking amazing.
- 23:29Speaker 3: I'm just lying to niggas. Let me buy you a drink. Absolutely.
- 23:33Speaker 5: One time I told somebody that my parents invented communion crackers.
- 23:39Speaker 3: What? I told him my parents invented communion crackers.
- 23:43Speaker 1: What?
- 23:44Speaker 5: And that's how we got our rich, like we got
- 23:47Speaker 5: generational wealth through communion crackers.
- 23:49Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Which definitely is an invention through science because them is
- 23:52Speaker 1: the nastiest little pieces of paper that taste like crackers.
- 23:55Speaker 3: But they just melt right away. It's so weird. It's
- 23:57Speaker 3: like rice paper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You went to church before?
- 24:01Speaker 1: You said what?
- 24:01Speaker 3: We're not going to do that.
- 24:02Speaker 1: No, I'm serious.
- 24:03Speaker 3: I used to be in missions.
- 24:04Speaker 1: I used to have to recite the verses to get
- 24:07Speaker 1: a little.
- 24:08Speaker 3: I want to see a young Mandy picture in Sunday school.
- 24:10Speaker 3: I got it.
- 24:10Speaker 1: I used to have to wear a blue skirt this
- 24:12Speaker 1: long with ruffled socks. I used to wear my little
- 24:15Speaker 1: soda platform shoes at the time. Y'all remember sodas? And
- 24:19Speaker 1: then I used to have to wear a white button-up
- 24:21Speaker 1: and then my blue sash. So every time I would go,
- 24:24Speaker 1: there was certain scriptures that I had to memorize and
- 24:27Speaker 1: say it in front of the class on Wednesdays. And
- 24:29Speaker 1: once I got it, I used to get it. I
- 24:30Speaker 1: went to fucking church camp and all that shit.
- 24:32Speaker 3: Did you believe it?
- 24:33Speaker 4: Or were you just performing my Mandy biography?
- 24:37Speaker 3: I'm fascinated. It's starting to make sense.
- 24:39Speaker 1: So when did you turn?
- 24:42Speaker 3: You know what's great? So, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's actually
- 24:47Speaker 3: a real team.
- 24:48Speaker 1: No, clearly.
- 24:49Speaker 3: Two things happened.
- 24:51Speaker 1: High school, my church, I went to Faith World Omega Church,
- 24:54Speaker 1: and that nigga ended up getting caught up in not
- 24:56Speaker 1: only a divorce, but stealing from the church. He had
- 24:58Speaker 1: a Hummer, PJ... So that was where I was like, ooh.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Faith World is a crazy name for a life. Faith World.
- 25:03Speaker 3: Now we bringing faith to the world. It's like Costco
- 25:05Speaker 3: for Christ. That's crazy.
- 25:09Speaker 1: And then the second one that really put the nail
- 25:11Speaker 1: in the coffin, my first year in college, my elective
- 25:16Speaker 1: was African American Studies.
- 25:19Speaker 3: And there was- Randy, your one. Another one for the wife. No.
- 25:24Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? For me, African American Studies was
- 25:27Speaker 1: where I was like- The way the slave masses, the
- 25:31Speaker 1: way Christianity was just looped into it, there was just
- 25:34Speaker 1: no fucking way it was going to be something like.
- 25:37Speaker 3: Oh, so at that point, you was like, I can't
- 25:38Speaker 3: buy this shit.
- 25:39Speaker 1: At that point, I was like, hell no.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Never mind.
- 25:43Speaker 3: That was for a reduction. For a reduction.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I was against it.
- 25:45Speaker 3: For that reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to you. So, yeah.
- 25:47Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, yeah, this is some bullshit.
- 25:49Speaker 1: This is a cult. And then I really started reading
- 25:51Speaker 1: about all the cults.
- 25:52Speaker 4: It's really a cult until it's massive. Like, everything starts
- 25:57Speaker 4: as a cult. Until it's, like, widely accepted. That's what
- 26:01Speaker 4: the missionary part of it is. Because Mormonism is a
- 26:04Speaker 4: cult unless it was widely accepted. Scientology, same thing. If
- 26:07Speaker 4: it was widely accepted, it would be a religion.
- 26:09Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're getting to a point where
- 26:10Speaker 1: both of them are becoming more widely accepted, though. Like,
- 26:14Speaker 1: you have a whole state that accepts it and leads
- 26:19Speaker 1: by it.
- 26:19Speaker 3: 2026, like, being overly religious is like, niggas is like... Weirdo.
- 26:24Speaker 3: Not bad. You're weird. That's legit how it feels nowadays.
- 26:27Speaker 3: You're weird. Yeah, like, come on, bro. I mean, right
- 26:29Speaker 3: now we have people using... Look at the president, son.
- 26:32Speaker 1: They're using their religious beliefs for him.
- 26:34Speaker 4: Like, look at what's going on in the world, and
- 26:36Speaker 4: then you tell me that the God is in the sky.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Sky daddy.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Sky daddy.
- 26:42Speaker 3: It can't be this.
- 26:43Speaker 4: And also, none of y'all's stories is fire enough because
- 26:47Speaker 4: they're not old enough. Like, nigga died, woke up three
- 26:50Speaker 4: days later like, I'm back, nigga. All right, I might
- 26:54Speaker 4: get down with a nigga like that.
- 26:58Speaker 3: That nigga spun the block in 72 hours? What? Nigga
- 27:01Speaker 3: moved a rock.
- 27:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 27:04Speaker 3: Nigga.
- 27:05Speaker 7: What?
- 27:05Speaker 3: You thought I was walking on water for fun? Is
- 27:11Speaker 3: that a hobby, nigga? Nigga thought you could kill me?
- 27:14Speaker 3: I got a fish fry with two fish, nigga.
- 27:16Speaker 5: I'm putting cases on all you bitches.
- 27:19Speaker 3: Nigga, what?
- 27:21Speaker 1: Not y'all turning God into sounding like Denzel on training day.
- 27:24Speaker 1: Y'all taking too far.
- 27:25Speaker 4: Nigga, the devil took me to the mountaintop, offered me everything.
- 27:27Speaker 4: I told that nigga, eat a dick. It's my daddy land, nigga.
- 27:33Speaker 3: It's my daddy land. That's when you start really talking.
- 27:35Speaker 3: You start really popping. Nigga, you can't offer me what's mine.
- 27:38Speaker 3: You know who my family is? My father is, nigga.
- 27:41Speaker 1: They created the communion crackers.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Shout out. Yo, this nigga's out here getting obscure bread, though, because.
- 27:48Speaker 3: But that's how you tell. That's why you tell the story.
- 27:50Speaker 3: What's the, what's the, the YZZZYY? Oh, the zippers and shit? Yeah.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Wait, are they black?
- 27:56Speaker 3: No, no.
- 27:56Speaker 1: Why are we talking about? A white one for him, please.
- 28:00Speaker 7: Oh.
- 28:00Speaker 3: I said obscure money because.
- 28:03Speaker 1: You mentioned communion crackers.
- 28:04Speaker 3: Okay, but let's not highlight. Don't try to compete with
- 28:06Speaker 3: me in my own game.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Let's not highlight white capitalism.
- 28:08Speaker 3: Hey, she's still in my game. Another one for the whites.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Colonization of game. Gentrification of game.
- 28:16Speaker 1: You know what? Let's get into what's happening around the
- 28:19Speaker 1: world because y'all get on my goddamn nerves. If you
- 28:22Speaker 1: have been living under a rock and not been on
- 28:24Speaker 1: social media, there have been a lot of riots taking
- 28:27Speaker 1: place in Paris as well as other parts.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Of the world.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Belgium, Spain, Italy.
- 28:33Speaker 3: They can just turn it upside down.
- 28:34Speaker 1: And this is due to, ironically, them having the same
- 28:38Speaker 1: issues as us. They feel as though these countries are
- 28:40Speaker 1: leaving it making it very hard for them to have
- 28:43Speaker 1: a quality of life and a place to afford to live.
- 28:47Speaker 1: And then they're also talking about the decline in support
- 28:49Speaker 1: for education and the funding of education. Now, I want
- 28:54Speaker 1: to bring up also the protests that were happening this
- 28:57Speaker 1: weekend across the country, the No Kings protests.
- 29:00Speaker 3: Now, for those of you.
- 29:01Speaker 1: Who don't know the No Kings protests, they started about
- 29:04Speaker 1: two years ago in 2024.
- 29:05Speaker 3: Yeah, I was waiting for that.
- 29:06Speaker 6: What?
- 29:09Speaker 3: What happened?
- 29:10Speaker 1: It's not a parade, it's a protest.
- 29:12Speaker 3: It's a parade. You know what a protest is, Mandy?
- 29:15Speaker 1: These are silent protests.
- 29:17Speaker 3: What are the demands?
- 29:19Speaker 1: Well, what they're doing, and let's talk about demands if
- 29:23Speaker 1: we're going to talk about protests as well. What they're
- 29:26Speaker 1: trying to demonstrate is that Trump is leading this country
- 29:30Speaker 1: to a monarchy. We don't believe in kings. This is
- 29:33Speaker 1: a democracy, and it's not that.
- 29:34Speaker 3: You don't even got to be a street star.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Well, to me, you can't say that when we were
- 29:39Speaker 1: all in the streets for Black Lives Matter as well.
- 29:43Speaker 1: So you thought BLM was parades as well?
- 29:47Speaker 3: That was different. Very clear difference in that approach.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Okay, so let's talk about it.
- 29:51Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying, the parades.
- 29:53Speaker 1: What's the difference between a silent protest and a parade
- 29:55Speaker 1: to you?
- 29:55Speaker 3: It's not a silent protest, bro.
- 29:57Speaker 4: It's very clearly organized around being a peaceful protest, but
- 30:01Speaker 4: it doesn't move the needle in anything and it doesn't
- 30:03Speaker 4: really draw any awareness to anything. It's really just like performative.
- 30:08Speaker 4: They do it during the weekday. It doesn't interrupt anything.
- 30:10Speaker 4: It's not really interfering with anything that the state has
- 30:13Speaker 4: to go on. Niggas getting permits. Niggas have police protection
- 30:16Speaker 4: out there. This is a parade.
- 30:19Speaker 1: You're talking about for the No Kings parade?
- 30:21Speaker 3: Yes. Parade.
- 30:21Speaker 1: I'll change it.
- 30:22Speaker 3: This is in alignment with... It's in accordance with everything
- 30:26Speaker 3: the city and the state needs it to be.
- 30:28Speaker 1: The only reason why I will disagree is because over
- 30:32Speaker 1: the last two, three weeks, there have been a lot
- 30:38Speaker 1: of protests on campus that did happen also during weekends.
- 30:44Speaker 1: That's not a No Kings thing, though. No, it wasn't
- 30:47Speaker 1: No Kings.
- 30:47Speaker 3: This is my point. This is what I'm saying.
- 30:49Speaker 6: Yes.
- 30:50Speaker 4: These were people rallying behind a cause. not around like impulsive,
- 30:55Speaker 4: not being impulsive, but being like urgent. We're doing this now.
- 30:59Speaker 4: We're not planning. I'm not saying that it can't be planned.
- 31:02Speaker 4: It obviously has some sort of impact. It obviously is
- 31:05Speaker 4: drawing some type of attention where Mark Zuckerberg decides to
- 31:09Speaker 4: censor them. Because the day that they were supposed to
- 31:12Speaker 4: start the parade, I mean the protest, they basically got
- 31:16Speaker 4: their pages censored.
- 31:18Speaker 3: All hashtags, shadow ban, all that shit. You can't find
- 31:20Speaker 3: any footage of it online.
- 31:21Speaker 1: Okay, I will say there was someone saying that none
- 31:24Speaker 1: of it was being showed.
- 31:25Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 31:27Speaker 4: The account, it actually just disappeared. Yeah, so there's obviously
- 31:32Speaker 4: something to it, but I think the thing is, the
- 31:36Speaker 4: reason why I say it's performative is because you can't
- 31:39Speaker 4: in the same breath say, oh, we want to protest
- 31:41Speaker 4: like friends, but when Black people were protesting like France
- 31:45Speaker 4: and Ferguson. Y'all cried because they burned down a quick trip.
- 31:48Speaker 4: Or when we was protesting George Floyd, you cried because
- 31:50Speaker 4: the CVS gets burned down.
- 31:51Speaker 3: This is the same shit. So it's like.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Do you believe that that's the right way to protest?
- 31:56Speaker 1: Only because I do see people in France complaining too.
- 31:59Speaker 1: You're burning down.
- 32:00Speaker 3: Bus stops, monuments.
- 32:01Speaker 1: What is that really doing?
- 32:03Speaker 4: Here's the thing about France as well. They don't have
- 32:06Speaker 4: a militarized police system.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Nobody's getting gunned down in the street. The police in
- 32:09Speaker 3: America will kill you.
- 32:11Speaker 4: This is the thing. So this is a stark difference. Also,
- 32:17Speaker 4: the less France can depend on exploiting Africa, the more
- 32:21Speaker 4: things get fucked up in France, which is why you're
- 32:24Speaker 4: going to see an uptick in their protests against the
- 32:27Speaker 4: state because the state is running out of money because
- 32:30Speaker 4: they get their money from exploiting black countries.
- 32:34Speaker 5: And that's the point, too, because it's like France, they
- 32:36Speaker 5: pay high-ass taxes in France. I think the highest tax
- 32:39Speaker 5: index in France is like 45% of some shit like that.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Well, they get six weeks of paid vacation.
- 32:45Speaker 5: But that's the thing about it. That 45%, they got
- 32:47Speaker 5: universal health care over there.
- 32:48Speaker 3: They're supposed to be taken care of.
- 32:50Speaker 4: But it's going to get rolled back the less that they're...
- 32:52Speaker 4: Because their income is similar to the state of Israel.
- 32:58Speaker 4: If America is funding the state of Israel the same
- 33:02Speaker 4: way that certain African countries.
- 33:04Speaker 3: Niger and Burkina Faso. Haiti as well. Burkina Faso just
- 33:09Speaker 3: kicked them completely out. And this is also a gold.
- 33:12Speaker 4: Like a basic gold mine of a country that they've
- 33:16Speaker 4: taken ownership back over.
- 33:18Speaker 3: They're going to see a decrease in their income because they.
- 33:21Speaker 4: Was dependent on these exploiting these black countries for centuries,
- 33:26Speaker 4: if you want to call it that. But the less
- 33:28Speaker 4: that they can exploit other people, the more they realize
- 33:30Speaker 4: they don't have anything to produce anymore.
- 33:32Speaker 3: To make up for their loss of income. Right.
- 33:34Speaker 4: So the people are going to start struggling. It's going
- 33:38Speaker 4: to get to a three-week vacation from six weeks.
- 33:41Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 33:42Speaker 1: I think that's my thing, too. Even seeing this, the
- 33:44Speaker 1: way we talk about here, how we know our taxes
- 33:46Speaker 1: are supposed to go to fix the roads and do
- 33:48Speaker 1: all these things. To me, they're doing that to their
- 33:51Speaker 1: own thing. Their own tax dollars are what's going to
- 33:54Speaker 1: have to pay to fix everything that they just burned down.
- 34:00Speaker 4: Your president just went on national TV and said that
- 34:03Speaker 4: Iran's retribution to the states is to get rid of L.A.
- 34:08Speaker 3: He recommends L.A.
- 34:09Speaker 4: Because it's a small price to pay. So even with
- 34:12Speaker 4: those stores that we're talking about, the CVS, it's a
- 34:14Speaker 4: small price to pay for a bigger cause.
- 34:16Speaker 3: That's just collateral damage to a bigger mission. Which is actually.
- 34:21Speaker 4: Crazy to say anyway, because I understand the California aspect
- 34:25Speaker 4: of it being more Democratic, super liberal.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why he said it.
- 34:30Speaker 4: What I don't understand is saying San Diego, which is
- 34:32Speaker 4: like a large military base.
- 34:35Speaker 3: But also, he ain't got it all. No, he doesn't.
- 34:39Speaker 3: But he just said yesterday, he was like.
- 34:42Speaker 4: He said, oh, yeah, you want to vote for the Democrats.
- 34:43Speaker 4: They want everybody to have free health care.
- 34:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 34:47Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, clip that. Use that as your campaign slogan.
- 34:54Speaker 1: Like, what?
- 34:55Speaker 3: This nigga's just giving you layups. Well, no.
- 34:57Speaker 1: I think last week, everyone was, like, cheering behind him.
- 35:00Speaker 1: And he was like... You see, I could say anything,
- 35:03Speaker 1: and y'all are just going to.
- 35:04Speaker 3: I say some of the dumbest stuff, and y'all cheer
- 35:06Speaker 3: for me.
- 35:06Speaker 1: Y'all just cheer for me.
- 35:08Speaker 3: It's a joke.
- 35:08Speaker 4: The thing is, you have to also understand that at
- 35:11Speaker 4: the end of every movie, the walls close in. When
- 35:15Speaker 4: this corruption is deep, the walls close in. And the
- 35:18Speaker 4: walls are closing in. And you're going to start to see,
- 35:21Speaker 4: especially with these midterms coming up, so make sure you
- 35:23Speaker 4: register to vote.
- 35:24Speaker 3: Please.
- 35:25Speaker 4: If you haven't been registered by now, I think the
- 35:27Speaker 4: deadline has passed. But if you are registered, don't just
- 35:29Speaker 4: sit there and be like, okay, I registered.
- 35:31Speaker 3: Go vote. Or make sure you're registered.
- 35:34Speaker 5: Make sure your name is actually still on the roll
- 35:36Speaker 5: because they play that dirty game.
- 35:37Speaker 1: And I will say it again. If you are doing
- 35:39Speaker 1: a mail-in ballot, it doesn't matter when it's stamped. It
- 35:43Speaker 1: matters when they receive it. So get that shit in
- 35:46Speaker 1: the mail by next week.
- 35:48Speaker 3: And if it's possible, please go vote in person.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Well, I'm still- Try.
- 35:52Speaker 3: To vote early in person if you can. So I
- 35:55Speaker 3: vote in Florida. Okay, that's real. But yeah, no, the
- 35:58Speaker 3: midterms is going to be interesting. Bookmark that. Put a
- 36:01Speaker 3: pin in there. What? Nothing. I didn't say nothing.
- 36:02Speaker 1: What the fuck you looking at this for on my registration?
- 36:06Speaker 1: I got to help the goddamn red state. You said what?
- 36:08Speaker 3: You voting for Angie Nixon?
- 36:09Speaker 2: I am.
- 36:10Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
- 36:11Speaker 1: All right, we back.
- 36:12Speaker 3: Another point for the blacks. Hold on.
- 36:14Speaker 1: And to be fair, and to be fair, To hear
- 36:17Speaker 1: a politician speak the way she did, so she did
- 36:19Speaker 1: an interview with Ben and Rachel on Higher Learning. I
- 36:23Speaker 1: liked her even more.
- 36:24Speaker 3: Oh, man. She's fire. No, she's fire. But that's the thing.
- 36:27Speaker 4: So what I'm speaking to is that we're getting politicians
- 36:31Speaker 4: out of politics and getting people in politics.
- 36:33Speaker 1: We are, yeah.
- 36:34Speaker 4: And so this can't be like a job of nepotism.
- 36:37Speaker 4: This isn't something you just hand down. And a lot
- 36:39Speaker 4: of rural parts of this country, these are jobs to
- 36:42Speaker 4: these people.
- 36:43Speaker 1: These are not positions.
- 36:45Speaker 3: So they're getting hand down. And that type of shit
- 36:48Speaker 3: got to go.
- 36:49Speaker 4: And then even the thing with Abdul Saeed, where the
- 36:52Speaker 4: guy went up and said, are you going to disavow
- 36:54Speaker 4: the Islam? He cooked the shit out of that boy.
- 36:58Speaker 4: He's a Republican talking head.
- 37:00Speaker 3: So he was there to start this. This is the thing.
- 37:05Speaker 4: When you have something this deeply corrupt, The walls that's
- 37:09Speaker 4: closing in, you're going to start to see these people
- 37:11Speaker 4: fold on each other.
- 37:12Speaker 7: Oh, no.
- 37:12Speaker 1: And we're seeing all of their true colors.
- 37:14Speaker 3: Their true colors.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Like, it's right there.
- 37:15Speaker 3: These niggas are rolling aliens out. Listen. They gave us
- 37:20Speaker 3: a three-for-three pack.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah, nah.
- 37:22Speaker 3: Yo, they rolled out a little three-pack of aliens.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah, nah.
- 37:25Speaker 3: I was like, hey. They didn't even look real. Wait, wait, wait.
- 37:30Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait. Is it aliens or is it robots
- 37:32Speaker 1: with flesh?
- 37:34Speaker 3: And you tell me what the difference is. The little
- 37:40Speaker 3: Elon special? Brock cooked these bitches up. Make her neck
- 37:45Speaker 3: long as shit. The fact that.
- 37:46Speaker 1: We're being told we about to have the flying cars,
- 37:49Speaker 1: I think it's just more of robots with flesh.
- 37:51Speaker 3: It could be.
- 37:53Speaker 1: That's what happened really with Katie. I think she just
- 37:55Speaker 1: glitched up there and they're like, fuck, we got a
- 37:57Speaker 1: malfunctioned one.
- 37:58Speaker 3: Get her out of there.
- 37:59Speaker 1: That's another thing too.
- 38:00Speaker 4: It's like, Niggas is like, I don't care about the
- 38:05Speaker 4: flying car. For one, there's no functionality in that. There's
- 38:08Speaker 4: no societal necessity for that. It's probably AI anyway.
- 38:12Speaker 3: Right. Because he does own a generator of AI. So
- 38:14Speaker 3: he's probably AI.
- 38:16Speaker 4: And this nigga is in court fighting for the right
- 38:18Speaker 4: to call you a nigger on the job.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Listen.
- 38:21Speaker 3: And he's a fucking, not like, he's overtly a Nazi.
- 38:25Speaker 1: I love it. So Crystal liked the post. And I said,
- 38:27Speaker 1: I see you, Crystal, because my homegirl got a Tesla.
- 38:29Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
- 38:30Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, yeah, let's talk about, like,
- 38:33Speaker 1: if we're so loud about Target, here's one that we
- 38:35Speaker 1: should get loud about, too.
- 38:36Speaker 3: A lot of niggas got Teslas.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Nah, a lot of niggas got Teslas and them Cybertrucks
- 38:39Speaker 1: they can't sell.
- 38:40Speaker 3: Well, you know what? Yeah, because first of all, it's
- 38:42Speaker 3: a horrendous car. It's an ugly-ass car. It's not the
- 38:45Speaker 3: car of the future. It's a piece of shit. I
- 38:48Speaker 3: feel like if you buy, I feel like when you
- 38:50Speaker 3: order a car from Elon Musk, you should have to
- 38:52Speaker 3: get branded. Ooh. Yeah, wear that. Yeah, wear that. And
- 38:55Speaker 3: wear it on your face.
- 38:56Speaker 1: Well, you know, there are bumper stickers that say that
- 38:58Speaker 1: they got.
- 38:59Speaker 3: The cars before. Who gives a fuck? Trade it in.
- 39:02Speaker 3: That's like getting a gun and putting a sticker on it.
- 39:04Speaker 3: This is not for murder. Right. Wait, wait, wait.
- 39:08Speaker 1: You don't have guns for murder?
- 39:10Speaker 3: No, I have guns for self-defense.
- 39:13Speaker 1: Okay.
- 39:13Speaker 3: Okay. This is not for self-defense. This is not a weapon.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Let's say that. This is not a weapon. I was
- 39:21Speaker 3: knocking around. We found it. We got to it.
- 39:23Speaker 1: We found it.
- 39:23Speaker 4: Yeah, but like, it's just, it's stupid. You're trying to like,
- 39:28Speaker 4: this is not, this is not an ethical vehicle.
- 39:31Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 39:31Speaker 4: It's not ethical to the society. It's not ethical to
- 39:34Speaker 4: this nigga's, like, his reputation precedes him.
- 39:39Speaker 1: And does.
- 39:40Speaker 3: He's a daddy money guy.
- 39:41Speaker 4: Mommy money type nigga and come in when things are
- 39:44Speaker 4: already successful and slaps his name on it.
- 39:47Speaker 3: He's not.
- 39:47Speaker 4: You know, they try to prop him up as some
- 39:50Speaker 4: super intelligent, autistic nigga that can't leave the office.
- 39:54Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie.
- 39:55Speaker 3: He's a fucking weirdo.
- 39:56Speaker 1: I think this year, especially with this pod, it's been...
- 40:00Speaker 1: there's been light brought to just laws and things of
- 40:04Speaker 1: protection and ways that people can go around that are sickening.
- 40:07Speaker 1: I think for me, and leading, and I hate to
- 40:10Speaker 1: keep bringing it up, but knowing that there's a law around, well,
- 40:13Speaker 1: if you have a drink, because you want a drink
- 40:16Speaker 1: and you get sexually assaulted, you can't claim rape because
- 40:20Speaker 1: you voluntarily had a drink. I think even knowing that
- 40:22Speaker 1: there's a distinction between those two things.
- 40:24Speaker 3: I think a rapist makes that law.
- 40:26Speaker 1: Like, it's disgusting.
- 40:27Speaker 3: That's right.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:28Speaker 3: I mean, I think we don't have a, I mean,
- 40:30Speaker 3: but even a step further to stay with this nigga.
- 40:33Speaker 4: If you dump $ 350 million of your own money into politics,
- 40:37Speaker 4: that's not politics no more.
- 40:38Speaker 3: That's not democracy. That nigga's trying to buy a car.
- 40:40Speaker 3: That's commerce. Yeah.
- 40:42Speaker 1: It's crazy because I've been seeing the difference in the
- 40:45Speaker 1: money that... Keisha Lance Bottoms has in her advertising, I
- 40:50Speaker 1: think she got like $ 9 million. And compared to Jackson,
- 40:53Speaker 1: who had $ 110 million.
- 40:54Speaker 3: Of his own bread.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Just being able to spend it. And it's just like, damn.
- 40:59Speaker 3: That's not politics, bro.
- 41:00Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying.
- 41:02Speaker 3: I agree.
- 41:02Speaker 1: When I saw that difference, I was.
- 41:03Speaker 4: Like, This is, you can't, this is, the campaigning should
- 41:07Speaker 4: not be seen as an investment.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we also have a president offering Americans $ 5, 000
- 41:11Speaker 1: if they vote red.
- 41:14Speaker 3: $ 5, 000 in this economy is nothing, nigga. It's not worth it.
- 41:17Speaker 3: Two months of rent. And then he offered to give
- 41:19Speaker 3: you 10% up front, something like that. Yeah, the $ 500.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Into the red states.
- 41:24Speaker 3: He promises some shit there.
- 41:25Speaker 5: Ask them ICE agents if they ever gonna see a
- 41:27Speaker 5: dime of that 50 grand that he allegedly promised.
- 41:29Speaker 3: You're not gonna see none of that dime ever.
- 41:31Speaker 4: And that's another thing that they're scared of, too, because
- 41:33Speaker 4: these ICE agents... are raping these children in these ICE
- 41:36Speaker 4: camps and they're getting them pregnant. And that, with the
- 41:40Speaker 4: right government in place, with the right Congress in place,
- 41:43Speaker 4: be protected for perpetuity.
- 41:45Speaker 3: Not only protected, but prosecuted.
- 41:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. This actually brings me to questions in
- 41:51Speaker 1: terms of law enforcement. I know ICE is, Not really
- 41:54Speaker 1: law enforcement because they're not enforcing shit, but crimes, essentially,
- 41:57Speaker 1: against humanity. But this is not a sports podcast, but
- 42:01Speaker 1: former NBA star Amari Stoudemire has.
- 42:04Speaker 3: Stepped into law enforcement.
- 42:05Speaker 1: I don't like that you look like that, by the way.
- 42:08Speaker 1: You do your little side looks to Big Daddy Kane
- 42:11Speaker 1: over there. And I just don't understand.
- 42:14Speaker 3: I understand. You just saw Big Daddy Kane for the
- 42:16Speaker 3: first time.
- 42:17Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane?
- 42:18Speaker 3: I don't know. Look, what you want? Somebody called him
- 42:20Speaker 3: a Big Daddy yesterday.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Listen, you just keep looking over there. We're going to
- 42:25Speaker 1: make sure you get out on your.
- 42:26Speaker 3: Time, my brother. I wasn't looking like that. I was
- 42:28Speaker 3: looking because.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Because y'all talked about this already?
- 42:30Speaker 3: I told you, HR, bro. Listen, listen.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Listen, well, we had this conversation a couple weeks ago
- 42:36Speaker 1: because my good brother to my right, Ja, felt really
- 42:41Speaker 1: passionate about... Shaq being doctored honorarily into the FBI. However,
- 42:49Speaker 1: I'm seeing the opposite reaction to Omari joining the force.
- 42:54Speaker 1: Went into the comments. Y'all know this is what this
- 42:55Speaker 1: pod is about. I want to see where emotions are spread.
- 42:58Speaker 1: And Omari seems to be getting admiration, saying that he'll
- 43:01Speaker 1: be able to help the community. This is something he's
- 43:03Speaker 1: always wanted to do. And then I think it's interesting. Friday,
- 43:07Speaker 1: y'all will hear our conversation with Glasses, but knowing that
- 43:12Speaker 1: the first episode of The Drop is about a Black
- 43:14Speaker 1: cop being killed. And so, or music being created around that.
- 43:18Speaker 1: And I kind of wanted to talk about the hypocrisies
- 43:21Speaker 1: of Black men in uniforms. Now, clearly, you hated... The
- 43:25Speaker 1: FBI honorary doctorate.
- 43:27Speaker 3: Yeah, that shit is trash.
- 43:29Speaker 1: He's actually gone through the academy. Yeah, the whole thing.
- 43:32Speaker 3: His family is full of cops.
- 43:33Speaker 5: He said his sister is a cop and his uncle
- 43:35Speaker 5: was a cop and all of that shit. This nigga
- 43:37Speaker 5: left the NBA, the National Basketball Association, to join the
- 43:40Speaker 5: National Black Blue Lives Matter Association.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Like, what do we.
- 43:45Speaker 3: Come on, dog. A pig is a pig, bro. It's
- 43:47Speaker 3: all the same to me. Do y'all not want.
- 43:49Speaker 1: Okay, so if we're talking about us becoming a part
- 43:52Speaker 1: of things where we can change, right? If y'all are
- 43:54Speaker 1: okay with Jay-Z being a part of the NFL and
- 43:58Speaker 1: making sure that our voice is heard, I would like
- 44:01Speaker 1: to know why you don't feel the same around.
- 44:05Speaker 1: I'm cooked, too.
- 44:06Speaker 4: That's all good. We got to make the sacrifices to
- 44:09Speaker 4: be the truthful people. Some doors got to close and
- 44:13Speaker 4: be honest.
- 44:14Speaker 1: I'm trying to talk about what the.
- 44:16Speaker 3: Parallel looks like.
- 44:17Speaker 4: Okay, so here is the parallel. This is the honest
- 44:19Speaker 4: part of it. You can't immerse yourself in an already
- 44:23Speaker 4: corrupt system and change it from the inside. You have
- 44:25Speaker 4: to restructure the entire system. The system of policing is
- 44:29Speaker 4: birthed out of the system of slave catching. That just
- 44:31Speaker 4: is what it is. And it's still structured that way
- 44:34Speaker 4: because until you change the process of how you can
- 44:38Speaker 4: become a certified police officer, it takes longer to become
- 44:41Speaker 4: a barber than it does a cop.
- 44:43Speaker 3: These niggas don't know the law. They're basically trained into.
- 44:47Speaker 4: Their protecting and serve the state.
- 44:50Speaker 3: They protect and serve property. They protect and serve the rich.
- 44:53Speaker 4: They never historically have or presently protected and served their community.
- 44:58Speaker 1: So they're HR, right?
- 45:00Speaker 3: That works in HR because they'll shoot the shit out
- 45:02Speaker 3: of you. Yeah, I was saying with guns. HR with guns.
- 45:04Speaker 5: And like these niggas, like as somebody who spent a
- 45:06Speaker 5: lot of time at gun ranges and shot with a
- 45:08Speaker 5: lot of cops, these niggas not even good at their job.
- 45:12Speaker 1: I will say it's interesting because- No.
- 45:15Speaker 3: You can't be a fat cop. These niggas are out
- 45:19Speaker 3: of shape. These niggas aren't- What?
- 45:21Speaker 4: And I could be a fat cop if like the
- 45:23Speaker 4: whole thing is like, yo, get out.
- 45:26Speaker 5: But look at all the reports that we've seen of people,
- 45:30Speaker 5: black people, who have been accosted by police officers because, oh, this.
- 45:34Speaker 3: Plate came back and stolen, but the cop misread the
- 45:37Speaker 3: license plate as an LP. The nigga had some kind
- 45:39Speaker 3: of dyslexia. But there's a situation with the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police
- 45:43Speaker 3: Department where they're competing to see how many black people
- 45:46Speaker 3: they can pull over, who can pull over them other
- 45:48Speaker 3: black people.
- 45:48Speaker 4: Just impeding on your day like that. Not even about
- 45:52Speaker 4: you violating.
- 45:53Speaker 3: Anything or doing anything wrong.
- 45:55Speaker 2: A traffic.
- 45:56Speaker 4: A traffic violation shouldn't even require, like, a pullover. There
- 46:00Speaker 4: has to be a different system just for traffic violations
- 46:02Speaker 4: unless it becomes criminal when you're, like, putting other people's
- 46:06Speaker 4: lives in danger.
- 46:07Speaker 1: As long as they're not coons, though, do we not
- 46:09Speaker 1: want more of us in a system that can't protect
- 46:11Speaker 1: us that we know?
- 46:12Speaker 3: The system can't protect them when they're not coons. Look
- 46:15Speaker 3: at Christopher Dorner. Yeah. Like once they.
- 46:18Speaker 4: There's also a history of good cops being outcasted by
- 46:22Speaker 4: the system of policing.
- 46:24Speaker 3: If not putting their lives in danger to be whistleblowers
- 46:28Speaker 3: in those systems as well. So the system itself is corrupt.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Well, you can't dismantle the system that is set forth to...
- 46:35Speaker 1: protect communities. So what does it look like? Because we
- 46:38Speaker 1: don't have the privilege of, what's that community in Brooklyn
- 46:41Speaker 1: that has their own hospitals, law enforcement? The Jewish community.
- 46:44Speaker 3: Williamsburg.
- 46:45Speaker 1: What is it called, though?
- 46:46Speaker 3: The Hasidic Jews.
- 46:47Speaker 1: The Hasidic Jews?
- 46:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:48Speaker 1: We're not able to form communities where.
- 46:50Speaker 3: We get our own hospitals and things like that. We're
- 46:51Speaker 3: also not allowed to just dig tunnels. Oof. And they've
- 46:55Speaker 3: been popping out.
- 46:56Speaker 4: You're also not allowed to, like, not have flock cameras
- 46:59Speaker 4: in your neighborhoods. There's something going on in that community
- 47:03Speaker 4: as well, that they're excluded from the same practices that
- 47:06Speaker 4: everybody else is subject to. So the thing is, when
- 47:09Speaker 4: you see those stark differences, you have the common question
- 47:13Speaker 4: to what the system is and who it's working for
- 47:16Speaker 4: and why. So the thing is, is that if there
- 47:19Speaker 4: is a recorded activity of white supremacists and neo-Nazis being
- 47:23Speaker 4: immersed in the system of policing, if the California police
- 47:27Speaker 4: system is focused.
- 47:29Speaker 3: Overrun by cop gangs. You know what I'm saying?
- 47:33Speaker 4: Like, if you have these cops in Charlotte, which is
- 47:37Speaker 4: a metro city, with a black sheriff or a black
- 47:42Speaker 4: chief of police still doing this shit where we're going
- 47:45Speaker 4: to compete to see how many black people we can
- 47:47Speaker 4: pull over, then what does that say for the rest
- 47:49Speaker 4: of the area surrounding that?
- 47:51Speaker 1: It's tricky because, again, when I lean into... I do
- 47:54Speaker 1: like to compare, and I like to hear what people
- 47:56Speaker 1: are saying. And so... At the same time, we want
- 47:59Speaker 1: to vote Angie Nixon. We have a black mayor here,
- 48:02Speaker 1: Andre Dickens. I just don't understand. If we know that
- 48:06Speaker 1: our political system and our democracy is corrupted, we are
- 48:10Speaker 1: voting them to make change inside a corrupt system. What's
- 48:15Speaker 1: the difference between voting them and accepting black people into
- 48:20Speaker 1: law enforcement?
- 48:20Speaker 3: Well, what I would say is that I can put,
- 48:23Speaker 3: me personally, I can put more....
- 48:27Speaker 5: I can take somebody at good faith more who wants
- 48:29Speaker 5: to be an Angie Nixon or somebody who wants to
- 48:32Speaker 5: work as a politician than I can for a cop. Like,
- 48:36Speaker 5: look at what happened with Tyree Nichols in Memphis. Like,
- 48:39Speaker 5: there were all black cops that killed him.
- 48:42Speaker 3: A whole gang of them. Freddie Gray. Yeah, Freddie Gray.
- 48:45Speaker 5: All black cops that did that to him. At least
- 48:47Speaker 5: with a politician, while I get the idea that, you know,
- 48:50Speaker 5: there's plenty of people who are just never going to
- 48:51Speaker 5: trust a politician, I think that there are people, to
- 48:54Speaker 5: his point, that When you're talking about people who want
- 48:57Speaker 5: to get into politics and not career politicians, I could
- 49:01Speaker 5: put more good faith or give them the benefit of
- 49:03Speaker 5: the doubt than.
- 49:04Speaker 3: I could for cops. And because the position is not
- 49:06Speaker 3: inherently violent. Right.
- 49:09Speaker 4: And it also doesn't come with this caveat of I
- 49:13Speaker 4: can kill because I fear for my life.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Well, it's weird.
- 49:15Speaker 1: You say that, but there's a difference as well when
- 49:17Speaker 1: you talk about violence, right? So with abuse, you have
- 49:19Speaker 1: physical abuse, you have verbal abuse.
- 49:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 49:21Speaker 1: And to me, as a politician, you actually can kill
- 49:23Speaker 1: millions of people when you're not giving certain, when you're
- 49:27Speaker 1: hiking the cost of health care. You actually are killing
- 49:31Speaker 1: millions of people in a violent way without.
- 49:34Speaker 3: It being violent. I think the thing being this is too,
- 49:36Speaker 3: is like when we talk about participating in the civic
- 49:39Speaker 3: Part of the politics is that we understand that these
- 49:42Speaker 3: things come down to a vote and they come usually
- 49:45Speaker 3: at the vote of which side has more power. Okay.
- 49:48Speaker 4: Being that the Democrats are the Republicans. We see what
- 49:50Speaker 4: the Republicans have done with a large amount of voters.
- 49:52Speaker 3: Get on the show, right.
- 49:53Speaker 4: Power is like literally dismantle 70 years of work.
- 49:56Speaker 3: Yeah. And we talking about like.
- 49:59Speaker 4: That being, that coming as a direct result of like
- 50:04Speaker 4: not only propaganda, so a trick to the masses is
- 50:09Speaker 4: are feeding into the racism of the masses.
- 50:14Speaker 3: Right.
- 50:14Speaker 4: But also, niggas got to, like, niggas shat where they slept.
- 50:19Speaker 4: And now they see the results of that. So these
- 50:22Speaker 4: things are like pendulum swings, right? We're in the midst
- 50:24Speaker 4: of a pendulum swing, right? And so, I think that
- 50:27Speaker 4: politics is always kind of going to go through a
- 50:29Speaker 4: pendulum swing depending on the state of the society. And now, like, unfortunately,
- 50:35Speaker 4: things had to get worse for them to get better.
- 50:36Speaker 1: It's real bad.
- 50:37Speaker 3: With policing....
- 50:39Speaker 4: We have a very clear, like, understanding of, like, what
- 50:42Speaker 4: role it plays in, like, how it shows up in society.
- 50:47Speaker 3: So, I don't get nervous when I see a politician.
- 50:51Speaker 4: Even though I know, like, how mighty... I know how
- 50:52Speaker 4: mighty the pen is, but I know how mighty the
- 50:54Speaker 4: sword is, too. And the sword is very present when
- 50:56Speaker 4: you see police. So, the thing is, it's also, like,
- 50:59Speaker 4: the history of discriminatory practices against black people.
- 51:02Speaker 3: Every system is guilty of that. Is guilty of that, yeah.
- 51:05Speaker 3: But the inherent, like, the violent aspect of it, like.
- 51:09Speaker 4: Politicians may hide behind the pen, but like Derek Chauvin
- 51:13Speaker 4: kneeled on that man's neck for nine minutes. You see
- 51:16Speaker 4: what I'm saying? And I saw that. And so the
- 51:19Speaker 4: thing is, is that it's not the issue of Derek Chauvin.
- 51:23Speaker 4: It's the three niggas that stood around and did nothing.
- 51:25Speaker 4: That's how I know I can't change that system. At
- 51:28Speaker 4: least in politics, the people on the other side are
- 51:30Speaker 4: arguing the other side. They are trying to convince. There
- 51:34Speaker 4: are people that are clearly in favor of the people
- 51:36Speaker 4: and just don't have the voting power. because of how
- 51:38Speaker 4: the votes turn out. But I'm not even saying that
- 51:43Speaker 4: it's just a guarantee that we're just going to change
- 51:45Speaker 4: that system from the inside out. I would say that
- 51:49Speaker 4: it's a lot more feasible to do it in that
- 51:51Speaker 4: system than it is in policing.
- 51:52Speaker 1: Well, then are there any conversations that, like, do any
- 51:56Speaker 1: of y'all have family members in law enforcement? A-King, you do?
- 52:01Speaker 5: I don't have any family members. I had some people
- 52:04Speaker 5: in military service, that kind of thing.
- 52:05Speaker 3: No cops, though. My people don't fuck with the police.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Okay, because I mean, I have both my sister and
- 52:11Speaker 1: brother were in the army, which- The military- The military
- 52:16Speaker 1: is different.
- 52:17Speaker 3: People go to the military for various reasons, too.
- 52:18Speaker 1: But you're fighting for the country, this bullshit, especially being black.
- 52:21Speaker 3: That's the conversation, too. per se, right?
- 52:24Speaker 1: No, they're choosing to fight for this country.
- 52:27Speaker 3: No?
- 52:28Speaker 1: No?
- 52:29Speaker 3: This job in the military. Listen, listen. It's not like
- 52:32Speaker 3: the only job in the military is show up with
- 52:34Speaker 3: a gun. It's called kill niggas, right? Yeah. Niggas do administrative,
- 52:37Speaker 3: niggas do paperwork.
- 52:38Speaker 1: There's very clear.
- 52:39Speaker 3: Listen, when you say, I want to be a Green Beret,
- 52:41Speaker 3: when you say, I want to be a Navy SEAL,
- 52:43Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, I want to get in there and kill.
- 52:45Speaker 1: My sister was a sergeant, and even though she was
- 52:47Speaker 1: in the kitchen... she had to be ready for war.
- 52:49Speaker 1: Of course.
- 52:50Speaker 3: They had to be prepared for war. But that doesn't
- 52:53Speaker 3: mean they'll engage with that. And most of them, I
- 52:55Speaker 3: know a lot of Abuku people in the military. It's
- 52:57Speaker 3: just a gig. Yeah.
- 52:58Speaker 8: You know niggas who didn't have shit going on after
- 53:00Speaker 8: high school that was like, When you're a cop, when
- 53:03Speaker 8: you sign up to be a cop, nigga, I know
- 53:05Speaker 8: that I am going to have interaction with the public
- 53:08Speaker 8: that can turn violent every day.
- 53:11Speaker 3: You signing up for that.
- 53:12Speaker 1: Okay.
- 53:13Speaker 3: You also don't get to sign.
- 53:15Speaker 4: The other thing about it is too, it's like, We
- 53:20Speaker 4: are patriotic to a fault, to the point where if
- 53:23Speaker 4: we don't see the violence, we're able to kind of
- 53:27Speaker 4: like cope with it, right? So like when you say
- 53:30Speaker 4: you can't, and this is America gets tricky, you can't
- 53:33Speaker 4: say that we've killed Iranians and we showed up on
- 53:35Speaker 4: their land. It ain't like they pulled up on us.
- 53:39Speaker 4: You can't say Iranians are killing American soldiers. Offense can't
- 53:42Speaker 4: be defense.
- 53:42Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 53:43Speaker 4: It's like you went there to engage in war, nigga.
- 53:45Speaker 4: Somebody gonna die.
- 53:47Speaker 3: That's like saying, the Vietnam, like, yeah, you're in their jungle.
- 53:51Speaker 3: You're in their crib. You're in their jungle, fam.
- 53:54Speaker 1: I will say, and we had the conversation about going
- 53:56Speaker 1: to a museum. That was probably the museum I felt
- 53:59Speaker 1: the least comfortable being in. And, like, I shouldn't have
- 54:01Speaker 1: been there. So I went to Vietnam and went to
- 54:04Speaker 1: the Vietnam War Museum in Ho Chi Minh. Boy, did
- 54:08Speaker 1: they not really teach us shit about what really happened.
- 54:11Speaker 1: And that was like, that was the one museum where
- 54:15Speaker 1: I was like, I feel uncomfortable being in here as
- 54:18Speaker 1: an American. Like, I don't think I'm supposed.
- 54:22Speaker 3: To be in here.
- 54:23Speaker 4: That's why there's so much military propaganda around it. So,
- 54:28Speaker 4: this is the thing. It's like, when you see cop shows,
- 54:32Speaker 4: when you see military, like, this is the thing. Like,
- 54:35Speaker 4: America is tricky. You'll go to a country and, like,
- 54:38Speaker 4: shoot and kill women and children and then, like, make
- 54:41Speaker 4: a movie to make me feel bad about the nigga
- 54:43Speaker 4: that was doing that.
- 54:44Speaker 3: Right. Like, fuck. I don't give a fuck about Bradley
- 54:47Speaker 3: Cooper crying because he's a sniper.
- 54:50Speaker 4: Nigga, you ain't no business over there. You signed up
- 54:53Speaker 4: for this gig, baby.
- 54:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 54:54Speaker 3: Like, the thing is, is, like, this is why they have, like,
- 54:56Speaker 3: the Forrest Gump. That's, like, a military propaganda. You know
- 54:59Speaker 3: what I mean? Like.
- 55:00Speaker 1: Life is like a box of chocolates.
- 55:01Speaker 3: Just trying to make it seem like, oh, man, this is, like...
- 55:03Speaker 3: This is just a... It's just war, man.
- 55:05Speaker 1: It's just war, man.
- 55:06Speaker 3: There's nothing really.
- 55:07Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know a lot.
- 55:08Speaker 3: And then the fucked up part is like, they do
- 55:10Speaker 3: all that and then play Fortunate Son. Like, nigga, they
- 55:12Speaker 3: telling you what the play is.
- 55:13Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 55:14Speaker 3: Nigga, if you got a little bread, you ain't even
- 55:15Speaker 3: got to worry about this.
- 55:16Speaker 5: And to your point about the pendulum, like, you said politics,
- 55:19Speaker 5: there could be a pendulum swinging, right? We go from MAGA,
- 55:22Speaker 5: now we've got these far left progressive DSA.
- 55:25Speaker 3: That's the pushback, right? But in policing, ain't no era
- 55:28Speaker 3: of good policing. There's no era. There ain't no era
- 55:31Speaker 3: of police swinging. There's no pendulum. It's like, it's this.
- 55:33Speaker 3: And it's never going to be nothing but this. At
- 55:34Speaker 3: every turn.
- 55:35Speaker 4: Because the thing is, we can't... Here's the thing. America
- 55:40Speaker 4: is going to do what's in America's favor.
- 55:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:43Speaker 3: For the longest time, America's favor is what's favorable to
- 55:46Speaker 3: white men. But then we get.
- 55:50Speaker 4: When we see the era of civil rights and we
- 55:52Speaker 4: see the amount of laws that are passed in favor of.
- 55:55Speaker 3: even though black people still struggle.
- 55:56Speaker 4: post-Civil Rights, post getting the vote, post.
- 56:01Speaker 3: All of these policies that are passed, post these things,
- 56:05Speaker 3: we still struggle. This is a back to the drawing.
- 56:08Speaker 4: Board for white people. So the pendulum does swing. Okay,
- 56:11Speaker 4: it swung in the favor of everybody but white people
- 56:14Speaker 4: for this one thing. Now we have to figure out
- 56:15Speaker 4: how to swing it back in our favor. And then
- 56:18Speaker 4: we formulate the CIA. All of these things happen.
- 56:21Speaker 3: Around and like damn near in a vacuum. But, I
- 56:25Speaker 3: think the thing is, is, like, we can see a
- 56:27Speaker 3: clear change, and, like, we have to also understand that
- 56:29Speaker 3: history is more of a pattern.
- 56:32Speaker 1: Oh, history repeats itself.
- 56:33Speaker 4: It's more of a flow than it is anything else,
- 56:36Speaker 4: and it's, like, you know, if you can kind of, like,
- 56:39Speaker 4: properly engage with it, you can see what part you're at. And, like,
- 56:44Speaker 4: I think it's just time for us to, like, also
- 56:48Speaker 4: not just be accepting of the fact that we have
- 56:50Speaker 4: to repeat these things.
- 56:51Speaker 3: We can actually change them. I agree. Like, you know,
- 56:53Speaker 3: you study for a test, like, You get the shit
- 56:55Speaker 3: wrong once, you go back double. They asking you the
- 56:58Speaker 3: same questions. You shouldn't get it wrong twice. You know
- 57:00Speaker 3: what I mean?
- 57:01Speaker 1: You right.
- 57:02Speaker 3: Well, Deontay.
- 57:03Speaker 2: Yes?
- 57:04Speaker 1: We hate that we have to see you go.
- 57:05Speaker 3: I know, man. I like being here with you. Listen, listen.
- 57:08Speaker 1: You know, well, hopefully we can get you to wake
- 57:10Speaker 1: up earlier one of these days.
- 57:12Speaker 3: I'll come back for a part two.
- 57:13Speaker 2: I'm with that.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Yeah, we need a part two. We need to go
- 57:15Speaker 1: on Grits and Eggs. You got Grits and Eggs? I'll
- 57:18Speaker 1: be hungry.
- 57:19Speaker 3: You got Grits and Eggs?
- 57:20Speaker 1: Why does everybody do this? Listen, niggas go to the
- 57:23Speaker 1: breakfast club thinking they gonna have breakfast. Okay.
- 57:26Speaker 3: Do they? Yes, they do. Wait, do you like your
- 57:28Speaker 3: Grits savory or? We're not gonna do this. Salt, pepper, butter.
- 57:34Speaker 3: Maybe some cheese. The proper way.
- 57:36Speaker 4: That's it. Also, stop seasoning your eggs like it's a chicken.
- 57:40Speaker 3: I agree.
- 57:41Speaker 1: I don't like it either. I don't like it either.
- 57:43Speaker 3: I've seen this going around a lot lately. What?
- 57:45Speaker 1: What is this?
- 57:46Speaker 3: What is this? What is this?
- 57:47Speaker 1: Hey, we got to leave that for part two, my brother.
- 57:50Speaker 3: Look at me.
- 57:52Speaker 1: Look at me. Keeping us on time here.
- 57:54Speaker 2: HR.
- 57:55Speaker 3: HR. HR. Thank you for coming for the H &
- 57:57Speaker 3: R Block. And we are back.
- 58:02Speaker 1: Y'all, like I said in the very top of the episode,
- 58:04Speaker 1: Deontay had a hard out and he refused to wake
- 58:07Speaker 1: up early enough to give us a full hour and
- 58:10Speaker 1: a half.
- 58:10Speaker 3: The HR is HR-ing.
- 58:11Speaker 1: I mean, listen.
- 58:13Speaker 3: Yo, Mandy ain't gonna never. Yo, I watched it in
- 58:15Speaker 3: full this way.
- 58:16Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
- 58:17Speaker 3: With him, I'm like, all right. And then she's like, no, nigga,
- 58:19Speaker 3: I'm gonna lean into this.
- 58:21Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? I treat everyone the same. Do
- 58:23Speaker 1: y'all not see? I am an equal opportunist. No, 100%.
- 58:25Speaker 1: I treat... and hold everyone accountable.
- 58:27Speaker 3: You do.
- 58:28Speaker 1: And when that nigga had the nerve to sit here
- 58:30Speaker 1: and say he doesn't wake up early, I recalled his
- 58:32Speaker 1: Breakfast Club interview.
- 58:33Speaker 3: So I also keep receipts for everyone. And he called
- 58:35Speaker 3: himself too. He's like, oh, well, I didn't go late.
- 58:37Speaker 3: I didn't go early. I didn't go early. It was
- 58:39Speaker 3: walking distance. He's like, nigga, yeah. I know you went early.
- 58:41Speaker 1: It's Breakfast Club.
- 58:42Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not doing breakfast until 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
- 58:44Speaker 1: We at least pay you for lunch ignorance. But nah,
- 58:48Speaker 1: love Deontay Kyle. Deontay Kyle.
- 58:49Speaker 3: Shout out to Deontay.
- 58:50Speaker 1: Hold on, let's go ahead and put it on record.
- 58:52Speaker 1: Deontay Kyle did say he will be here for the
- 58:54Speaker 1: episode dropping the week of the midterms.
- 58:56Speaker 3: Yes.
- 58:57Speaker 1: So hopefully we get a part two with Deontay Kyle
- 59:01Speaker 1: for the November 3rd episode again.
- 59:03Speaker 3: Good to work. If you haven't yet, go out early voting.
- 59:07Speaker 1: Y'all's guy actually just texted me.
- 59:08Speaker 3: Who's that? Your guy. Okay. Isaac Hayes. Oh, what is
- 59:12Speaker 3: he talking about? That's John's fan base?
- 59:13Speaker 1: Yeah, that's John's guy.
- 59:15Speaker 3: Also my guy. We're not going to do it. We're
- 59:17Speaker 3: not going to do it. We're not going to do it.
- 59:19Speaker 3: I need my money back.
- 59:22Speaker 1: He did send me the vote.org link and was like,
- 59:26Speaker 1: of course. He just said, you know, early voting is
- 59:28Speaker 1: still out here for the people. Make sure.
- 59:30Speaker 3: Is it a regular? Is it a fan base link? No,
- 59:32Speaker 3: it's a vote.org. Ain't no fan base link.
- 59:35Speaker 1: All right. Hey, King.
- 59:36Speaker 3: No, I'm just telling you what the internet streets told me. Hey, King.
- 59:40Speaker 3: No app store. You told me and I asked.
- 59:45Speaker 1: You did tell me and I asked. Listen, I know
- 59:49Speaker 1: I brought up Floyd Mayweather endorsing.
- 59:53Speaker 3: Endoicing. That's that Bronx. Endoicing.
- 59:58Speaker 1: What do you endorse? But we're actually not going to
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: get to that. I think we talked enough about Literally,
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: and clearly there's a pipeline of capitalism and people needing
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: things and their decision to align with Trump. If you
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: guys have, again, been living under a rock, Mayweather owes
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: a lot of money not only to the IRS, but
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: a lot of Jews, a lot of whites, a lot
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: of people in Dubai.
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: Niggas is crazy. He owes a ton of money.
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: It's crazy that you owe that much money and your
- 1:00:32Speaker 5: nickname was Money.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: Money Mayweather. And you had all of this bread. And
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: now you in debt.
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: And the real estate property in Brooklyn, it was a
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: bunch of brownstones or developments that he was supposed.
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: To be trying.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: No, no, no.
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: Not in Brooklyn. Not in Brooklyn. In the city. You
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: were with me. Remember when you asked me that super... That.
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: Big-ass tall building that we were looking at.
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: So we were in New York and you asked me
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: about that super tall building.
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: Yep, yep. He was a part of that.
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: He was a part of that.
- 1:00:52Speaker 3: That's crazy.
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: Listen.
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: That's crazy work. All I know is it.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Looks like he's pouring into Clarissa Shields and her thing
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: because he's clearly.
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: Out here promoting her matches.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: So he was just here with her in Atlanta.
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: Is he her promoter?
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: It might be. You know he is the TMT promoter.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: It's possible.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: It's possible. Get it how you live, champ. Be safe
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: out there.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Listen. Speaking of being safe. Speaking of....
- 1:01:22Speaker 3: Money. Money. The money on.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Speaking of being an individual who is very loud with
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: his voice and does, he does encourage voting. He may
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: not always encourage voting on the right side, but he
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: encourages it.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about that.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: We'll talk about all the things.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Killer Mike.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: Killer Mike is a rapper and activist right out of
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: the age. A legend.
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: A legend. It is.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: He is. And like most people who, you know, at
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: once it was just their art that led them. or
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: their skills on the basketball court, unfortunately, they are all
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: now getting in front of these goddamn podcast mics.
- 1:02:01Speaker 3: Well, he's a podcaster, too.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: I was about to say, he's the host of his
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: own podcast.
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: Conversate with Killer Mike. But most.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Conversate, too.
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. That's a nigga's title.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: That's literally the word that the Urban Dictionary created for us.
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: Conversate. Conversate. I'll say, you know, he was our first
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: live show ever. Indeed. Combat Jack. It was DJ Drama
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: and Killer Mike. At the Masquerade. At the Masquerade. Yep,
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: I was there for that show.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Really? That's huge. That was before pods.
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: Were doing live shows. That was way before live shows.
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: We didn't even know.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: By the way, we're not getting into this on this episode.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: I want to give him credit because he's getting shitted
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: on right now on the goddamn internet.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: Oh, no.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: And it might, I don't know if it happened around
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: the same time or he got the idea from Combat Jack,
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: not sure. But Elliot Wilson was the first that I.
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: Saw with the Crown series. Like, Elliot did, and he,
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: the rooms that he did, Yeah.
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: With just a sit-down talk, no performance.
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: Like, niggas did not get on the mic and perform. Again,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: I got to see, and y'all hear me talk about it.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: I flew from Vegas Memorial Day weekend, like a thot.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: We did something with him, too.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: After mad things at Hard Rock. If y'all don't remember
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: the Hard Rock pools, you are too young to be
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. But it was called Rehab.
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: Shout out to Rehab. So literally, Memorial Day weekend.
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Hard Rock, ah, ah, ah. That either Monday or Tuesday,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson had J. Cole in a crown series in
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: New York. Boop.
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: Jetted there.
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: With all of $ 300 in my account, I don't know
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: how I was moving without a credit card at this time.
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: With intention and hope and belief.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: That's how niggas got it done. No, no, no. It
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: was crazy. It was crazy.
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: But.
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: To know that conversations were that. Real quick, do you
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: remember what that conversation with Killer Mike and DJ Drama
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: was about at the time? Because he's, was he an
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: activist yet?
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: No.
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: Well, he's always been that way. He's always had that,
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: you know, he's always culture-centered.
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: Right. You know what I mean?
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: That was before Run of Jewels, though, I think. Or
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: maybe the first Run of Jewels? I think that might
- 1:04:12Speaker 5: have been the first album.
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: I mean, it's out there, you know, go to Apple,
- 1:04:17Speaker 4: you know.
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: But, I don't remember exactly. Well, actually, thank you for
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: saying that.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: Wait, y'all were recording live shows?
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: Oh, no. And it came out as episodes. Yeah. Come back, Dex.
- 1:04:27Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: With intros. That's why I'm like... Wow. The recipes are there.
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: That's why I.
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:04:32Speaker 6: Wow.
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: People who want to jump into space, it's like... It's there.
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: Here's the blueprint.
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: I always give credit to you, too.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: I hate.
- 1:04:40Speaker 3: Damn, it sounds so familiar. I hate even when she
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: tells people how to do it. I'm like, no, don't
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: tell them the cheat code.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: You know what's crazy about that?
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: Ultimately, guess what? You have to do it.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I'm not a gatekeeper, but also people
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: have been wanting me to do courses and e-books and
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: all these things. And it's crazy because I could tell
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: you exactly what I did, but I feel like I
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: would be stealing from people because it doesn't mean you're
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: going to get the same success.
- 1:05:05Speaker 3: At all. It doesn't mean. So what about the people
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: who do do it?
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: Oh, they're scammers.
- 1:05:09Speaker 3: That's fucked up. But that's the thing about advice though, right?
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: They're scammers. You don't think they're scammers? You don't think
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: they're scammers? Let me tell you how to make a
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: million dollar podcast.
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: You said what? Bring it to Atlanta.
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: I think, look, if you have the bandwidth to give
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: information and you want to package it and get the
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: return on investment, I'm not mad at it. As long
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: as you give the right advice, because no matter what
- 1:05:35Speaker 4: advice you give, you still got to execute.
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: People got to do the work.
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: But to be clear, yeah, good advice can be good advice,
- 1:05:42Speaker 5: but what someone is telling you about their experience isn't
- 1:05:46Speaker 5: your path, necessarily.
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: How many times I told.
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: Her, don't mess with, don't stick your dick in whatever, Ashley,
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: and then boom.
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: No, don't stick your dick in Ashley.
- 1:05:54Speaker 3: And we still stick our dick in Ashley.
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: All the Ashleys are getting a goddamn stream of that.
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: Ashley, get your syphilis.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: Now, Killer Mike recently sat with my good friend, Vic Mensa.
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: Shout out to Vic Mensa.
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: And I'm so mad he was in London. When I
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: was out in LA.
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: Oh, was he?
- 1:06:08Speaker 5: Oh, I did see his London Town promo for his tour. Yeah,
- 1:06:11Speaker 5: I love it.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: He was like, literally, he was like, man, I'm about
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: to be in London when you're in my city. Y'all
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: will be seeing me on the goddamn orange room couch, goddammit.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: And I'm going to get my script right for sexual
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: liberation and women's rights over there with the orange tree, okay?
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: How about that? But Killer Mike.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Recently sat with him. And there was a lot of
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: pushback from Vic on... Killer Mike's stance on capitalism. I
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: want to play this clip because it also includes a
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: drop or something that I love. I better clip this
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: shit up.
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: I never said that.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: But if you could go ahead and play this, this
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: is what Killer Mike had to say on the Vic
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: Mensa podcast.
- 1:06:49Speaker 9: Because I've never fucking said it. Yeah, I've never fucking
- 1:06:51Speaker 9: said it.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: You stupid motherfuckers just keep lying. You've made me into
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: this weird ass fucking meme.
- 1:06:57Speaker 7: Jamie Fred Hampton also famously said, we're not going to fight.
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: Fire with fire. We're going to fight fire with water.
- 1:07:03Speaker 7: We're not going to fight capitalism with black capitalism. We're
- 1:07:05Speaker 7: going to fight it with socialism. So when you had
- 1:07:07Speaker 7: the new rap and you was like, move like a capitalist.
- 1:07:13Speaker 7: I was trying to understand that. I don't believe that
- 1:07:15Speaker 7: my personal finance is going to get the masses.
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: I never said I believe that. What did I say?
- 1:07:21Speaker 3: I want to know.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: When you say move like a capitalist, do you feel
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: like capitalism is a liberatory force? When I said I
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: move like a capitalist, I didn't say I am a capitalist.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: I said I move like a capitalist because I realize
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: at some point niggas can't be capitalists. So if you
- 1:07:35Speaker 2: want to get mad at Mike for saying that, I
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: used to wonder, and I literally asked in elementary school,
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: how does a slave buy their freedom? That doesn't make sense. Well,
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: slaves didn't work on Sundays. Yes, Sundays are. You, as
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: a black person, understand my labor is worth something. At
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: some point, I had to say to myself, Michael, does
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: by any means means that any means any means?
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: Because any means.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: By any means necessary, means by any and every means necessary.
- 1:08:01Speaker 7: And that doesn't mean that it's going to liberate the masses.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: Before you liberate the masses, liberate your black ass.
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: Liberate your mind through study.
- 1:08:10Speaker 7: At no point in time have I heard you say
- 1:08:12Speaker 7: anything that sounds like, You believe that capitalism is going to.
- 1:08:16Speaker 9: No, because I've never fucking said it. Yeah, I've never
- 1:08:18Speaker 9: fucking said it. You stupid motherfuckers just keep lying. I'm
- 1:08:21Speaker 9: not saying capitalism saves the collective.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: I'm saying if you and your cousin choose to live together,
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: you can save some money. I'm telling you what my
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: Indian friend did. I'm telling you what my Somalian friends do.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: I'm just saying that we're going to have to use
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: every tool we can available. Or you could just wake
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: up and kill 20 governors tomorrow.
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: You know you could do that. That's an option. If
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: you want to expedite the process, do it.
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: No, no, I know it could.
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: It could happen.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: All I'm saying is, the shit I'm saying is outrageous
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: as it sounds. There's a quick step to get to it. Now,
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: if you want to expedite the process, violence.
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: Frans Canaan said that, right? First chapter.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Black capitalism won't end capitalism, boy. But some niggas with
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: some money sure can't help buy some guns.
- 1:09:03Speaker 5: And some books.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: Shout out to the Vic Mensa show. This was great.
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: That was good.
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: This was great.
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: He's done a great job out the gate too, man.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: Oh, killing it. And he's been working on this for
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: a while. So I'm so proud to see what he's done. Also,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: this was shot in Fred Hampton's home.
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: Yes, his childhood home. Beautiful. And his childhood home.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: So if you watch the video, there's like the Black
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: Panther table that they're sitting in.
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: He probably got his sanction by Frank Hampton Jr.
- 1:09:29Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: There's no way they could have gone in there. Who
- 1:09:30Speaker 3: was in his mom's stomach when the shooting went down.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: Wow. Right.
- 1:09:35Speaker 3: Crazy.
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: So there was a lot here. And I want to
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: tackle this in a way where Deontay Lucky is fucking
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: out here.
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: Oh my God, I wanted y'all to hear so bad
- 1:09:45Speaker 3: for this topic. I definitely wanted to hear what he said.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: No, that's why he said, he heard them topics, he said,
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: y'all ain't slick.
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: Y'all motherfuckers specifically chose these. You think he dog walked
- 1:09:57Speaker 3: us a little bit in the last segment? No, no, no.
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: Real quick, real quick.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: Run the tape back.
- 1:10:06Speaker 3: Do you think I.
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: Wanted to spend that much time on law enforcement and
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: Amari Sotomayor?
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: Fuck no. That nigga started, that.
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: Nigga started, well, let me create a monologue here and here.
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about Killer Mike. I think
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: he did it on purpose. He was watching the clock
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: just like I was, motherfucking HR.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Y'all was watching the clock for different reasons.
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: We was watching the clock. As soon as I ended
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: the top of the episode, he said, oh, Killer Mike,
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: that's what y'all trying to do here?
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: Nope.
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta. But here's the thing.
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: We'll do it. We'll do it.
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: We'll do it.
- 1:10:36Speaker 5: But I feel confident that he's going to address this.
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: On Grit and Egg. Oh, he will. Oh, he said,
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: he said, I want this on Grit and Egg. Plus,
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: it's like, he's not.
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: What he said. I mean, he's already cooked Jay-Z.
- 1:10:48Speaker 5: He already knows that the idea of being in association
- 1:10:52Speaker 5: with Roc Nation is donezo.
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: Well, I mean, not really, because you said he's going
- 1:10:55Speaker 3: to be here.
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: Who?
- 1:10:57Speaker 3: And, you know, old girl is a Roc Nation artist.
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's her independent thing. As far as, like,
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: he's not going to the brunch. He ain't going to
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: get no invite to the brunch if the brunch is still...
- 1:11:08Speaker 5: First off, the brunch doesn't exist anymore.
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: The brunch doesn't exist anymore.
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: Hypothetically, the brunch.
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: Um.
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: Also, I guess I want to get into it because
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: what Killer Mike is saying here is there's a difference
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: between generating wealth and distributing opportunity. When we're talking about capitalism,
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: when we're talking about black capitalism, when we're talking about
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: how we as black people are able to accumulate wealth,
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: distribute it within and care for community while also caring
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: for ourselves, which I think he says pretty clear here.
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: There's also a distinction between Speaking of generational wealth and individualism,
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: which he said, you got to liberate your goddamn self first.
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: You got to worry about yourself. I felt that.
- 1:11:54Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know how they say you got to
- 1:11:56Speaker 4: get your house right first, right? That was my take
- 1:11:59Speaker 4: from hearing that, you know, even in relationships. Don't get
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: into a new relationship with baggage, right? You try to
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: clear up all that shit before you be in a
- 1:12:06Speaker 4: healthy relationship.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: But getting your home right first when we talk about Capitalism, even,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: and I hear Van say this all the time on
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: Higher Learning, when we're talking about capitalism in the sense
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: of giving back, you also are driving really nice cars
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: and have really nice watches. So when you're getting your
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: house situated, like a killer mic, He's been around for
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: at least two decades. I think that he's in a
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: place where financially, his house is fine.
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: He probably has a really big house. He could probably
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: fit five.
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: Of my apartments into his home.
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: Yeah, my house is in good shape.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: So the getting your home right, whatever that looks like,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: in terms of when we talk about even having a
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: salary that pays for just the standards of living. Someone
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: making Killer Mike money, the house is taken care of.
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: So then what does it look like for community?
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: He had to work to get to that point where
- 1:13:03Speaker 4: he can get his house in order. He just didn't
- 1:13:05Speaker 4: snap out.
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: Of nowhere and get it in order.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Yeah, but 20 years later, he has it.
- 1:13:07Speaker 3: It's labor, and you should be able to, you know,
- 1:13:10Speaker 3: get some fruit to that labor.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: You know how I said community is seen as this, like,
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: great word, but when you put it to other communities,
- 1:13:19Speaker 1: it's not so great? Do you get what I'm saying? So, like,
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: when we talk about community, we're talking about.
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: Helping one another. Helping one another. Be there for one another.
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: Having organization to uplift community.
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: When other people talk about community, you could be talking
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: about a terroristic community. You could be talking about the KKK.
- 1:13:37Speaker 3: It's their community. White people lean into philanthropy. Right? White people.
- 1:13:42Speaker 3: They get rich, and then they say, oh, yeah, I'm
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: a philanthropist now. Oh, yeah, it's tax write-offs. We don't
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: know what the fuck that means.
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: To me, I just.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: I'm over the conversations of villainizing capitalists as a bad
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: thing when, if we talk about the American dream, we
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: all are striving to.
- 1:14:02Speaker 3: Have some element of it. There's a difference though.
- 1:14:04Speaker 5: Capitalism and like, first off, we all exist within this system, right?
- 1:14:10Speaker 5: So like, I don't think that my opinion of capitalism
- 1:14:17Speaker 5: as a political, social structure is not the same thing.
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: And we all got to go to work. We all
- 1:14:23Speaker 5: have to make money. You can't live in this society
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: and not pay your rent, not pay your car note,
- 1:14:27Speaker 5: not pay for groceries.
- 1:14:29Speaker 3: Unless you join Nature Boy's cult.
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you're going to join Nature Boy's cult and
- 1:14:32Speaker 5: you're going to wipe your ass with leaves and shave
- 1:14:34Speaker 5: your face with rocks.
- 1:14:36Speaker 3: We all got to go make money.
- 1:14:38Speaker 5: But commerce and the idea of doing business and capitalism
- 1:14:42Speaker 5: aren't the same thing. And I think that the problem is,
- 1:14:45Speaker 5: is that People.
- 1:14:48Speaker 3: Have just conflated these two ideas.
- 1:14:51Speaker 5: And, like, for those of y'all who pay attention to, like,
- 1:14:55Speaker 5: the FD Signifiers and ill bills and Dr.
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: Jared Balls. Can I just tell you?
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: Internet came to my home. FD Signifier was put on
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: my TV.
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: He did a breakdown of the biracials.
- 1:15:10Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he's done all type of video essays.
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: And I'm like, it would be internet to get to
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: my house and put FD Signifier.
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: Internet is tapped in. Internet is tapped in.
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: When did internet decide that she was... That wasn't random.
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: She's like, I'm going to go to Mandy's house.
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure she know about this shit
- 1:15:26Speaker 5: right here.
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: Oh, Airplayed. F.D. Signifier.
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: Airplane F.D. Signifier on some TV.
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:15:32Speaker 5: But the thing is that we all have to do commerce.
- 1:15:35Speaker 5: We all have to go to a job and work.
- 1:15:36Speaker 5: Or if you're an entrepreneur, you have to have your
- 1:15:38Speaker 5: business to hopefully be profitable to make money. But capitalism
- 1:15:43Speaker 5: is more of a political structure than just.
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: Like commerce, we all have to do.
- 1:15:51Speaker 5: Capitalism is about attaining and acquiring as much as possible
- 1:15:56Speaker 5: regardless of the outcome, regardless of what it affects, regardless
- 1:16:01Speaker 5: of what the thing is. It's more about individualism than
- 1:16:04Speaker 5: anything else. It's about we're going to gather everything. When
- 1:16:07Speaker 5: we talk about us, not Skynet, that's the Terminator, but
- 1:16:12Speaker 5: the company that is acquiring Paramount and all of these companies,
- 1:16:16Speaker 5: and we're talking about monopolies. That's a pure capitalistic thing.
- 1:16:23Speaker 5: where we want to have control of everything. You can't
- 1:16:25Speaker 5: touch a product without us being involved because we own
- 1:16:28Speaker 5: it all.
- 1:16:29Speaker 3: That's not the same thing as having your local business
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: that you sell.
- 1:16:32Speaker 5: Sandwiches or hair products or whatever your thing is, and
- 1:16:36Speaker 5: you're making money. Even if you get rich, that doesn't
- 1:16:38Speaker 5: make you a capitalist. That means you had a successful business.
- 1:16:42Speaker 5: Capitalism is.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: So you would separate the two? Someone having a small
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: business from being a capitalist.
- 1:16:48Speaker 5: Yeah. I think they're inherently different in every possible way.
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:16:53Speaker 5: Because I don't think capitalism is about making money. Everyone
- 1:16:56Speaker 5: wants to make money. Is there a form of oppression
- 1:17:00Speaker 5: that's attached to capitalism?
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: 100%.
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: I mean, first off, well, capitalism, especially here, when you
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: put it in.
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: When does it harm people?
- 1:17:08Speaker 7: Yes.
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because, okay, I'm going to share this.
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: And it was really difficult to have it because he
- 1:17:15Speaker 1: was a white man, but he was a foreigner.
- 1:17:17Speaker 7: So.
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: I was at a bar this weekend. Very nice bar.
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: I was eating caviar and chips.
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: Doing bumps? No, like, no, I wasn't. Whoa. Not caviar, but, nigga, no.
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: Bumps?
- 1:17:32Speaker 3: They're not bumps.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: It was only one ounce.
- 1:17:34Speaker 3: Couldn't do too much bumps. I didn't even know they
- 1:17:36Speaker 3: do that. I was putting it on the chips.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: Bumps?
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:17:39Speaker 3: I wish I didn't make that mistake. I wish you
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: didn't clean that up. I wouldn't have had to walk
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: that dog.
- 1:17:45Speaker 7: Damn.
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: So I'm at this really nice bar.
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: And I'm sitting next to a guy, and there's an accent.
- 1:17:53Speaker 1: And the only reason we start talking is because I
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: get a Sauvignon Blanc or a peanut Sauvignon Blanc.
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: And I try it. I said, do you have a Sancerre?
- 1:18:07Speaker 3: And that perked his ears up.
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: Well, it perked his ears up because what I said
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: no to was a product of Italy. And so he's like,
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: do you mind if I try it? Cause I didn't
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: want it. He like put it around.
- 1:18:18Speaker 3: Did he drink off the same spot that you drank from?
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: Just like a white man.
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: No, he did. He drank from the other side of
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: the glass.
- 1:18:23Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: I was about to say, he was trying to get.
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: He did drink from the other side of the glass.
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: But it was interesting because.
- 1:18:29Speaker 1: We started having a conversation about him being from Italy.
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: And then it gets a little political.
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: Sure.
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: Because, you know, I'm like, oh, Milan, there's protests going
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: on there. Just like in Paris. And, we start talking
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: about the protest that's happening.
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: He said some Fox News shit. Hold on. Hold on.
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: And almost immediately, I see where he's at. So this
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: is clearly a very wealthy man.
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about it.
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: The way he spoke- You know what it is.
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: And here's how I knew. So he goes to start
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: telling me about the economy of what's happening in Italy.
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 1:19:09Speaker 1: And of rents. and immediately this is where I knew
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: what side he was on. He blames the immigrants.
- 1:19:14Speaker 3: Of course he does.
- 1:19:15Speaker 1: Not only does he blame the immigrants, he says, you know,
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: when it comes to tax dollars, they take more from
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: the economy than what they give. And so, yeah, they
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: come and they do these jobs, and, you know, so
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: I get what they do, but they take more than
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: what they give. So then when they want to tax
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: the wealthy, it's just like, why? So we can make
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: their lives easier? It doesn't make sense. And then they
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: try to do these things, and this is how I
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: knew he was really wealthy. He was like, yeah, like,
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: And I can't remember the fucking city. But he brings
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: up some part of Italy that tried to issue a
- 1:19:50Speaker 1: tax on boat owners.
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: The yachts.
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: It could have been Amalfi Coast, Sicily.
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: They don't like Sicily.
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: So he goes to talk about how the government is
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: so stupid. Because he says, so they go and sit
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: here and try to put these taxes... You know, on
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: the people who could pay it to think that that's
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: going to help because these immigrants aren't putting enough into
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: the economy. When they just don't know, we'll crumble.
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: The whole economy.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: By moving our boat somewhere else. And I was just like, wow.
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: I felt like I was talking to like, oh, you
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: one of them.
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: Listen. And so as I'm hearing him like, they're so funny. Like,
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: they think that they could just tax us. and make
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: us pay to help the lower people. Like if I
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: want to not pay, I move my boat somewhere else
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: and then I just crumble the economy because now you
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: no longer have my boat here. So I don't pay here.
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: You can't bring things in. And so it was, when
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: I tell you, I was just, I was listening because
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to bring this conversation here because
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: I don't think I've been in, and I'll let y'all
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: know off air where I was, but to talk to
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: someone Speak of immigrants, even from a foreign nation like that.
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: And he said he's been in America for 13 years,
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: but still very Italian.
- 1:21:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: And to hear even his thoughts on the protests, who's
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: the problem, where the money's going, because the protests, again,
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: are for people who feel like they can't afford the
- 1:21:26Speaker 1: cost of living and removing budgets and funding from education.
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:21:32Speaker 1: And literally he turned that into, nah, immigrants are the problem.
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: And so it's interesting having Trump run a country right now.
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: Us as black people having conversations about the fucking diaspora
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: and capitalism and how we fund money when really it
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: trickles all the way back up to the top.
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: Yep, the immigrants are arguing about immigrants.
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: Well, and we're not even immigrants, but the oppressed arguing
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: with the oppressed. It's the oppression Olympics all over again.
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: And we continuously have these, Questions on who had it
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: harder to be raised and who works themselves out or
- 1:22:04Speaker 1: who picks themselves up from the bootstraps the best. Because
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: we also have these conversations with the Latinos.
- 1:22:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: When he said immigrants, as an Italian, he wasn't talking
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: about Mexicans.
- 1:22:16Speaker 3: No.
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: Whatever immigrants he was talking about.
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: Niggas. Not being Italian. No, no, no. Not being Italian.
- 1:22:23Speaker 5: No, but in the EU, they're talking about Muslims.
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: No, I was going to say. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no.
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. When I go to Dubai, in
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: Dubai or the Middle East, the immigrants are Indians.
- 1:22:39Speaker 3: Right. They're like.
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: Or.
- 1:22:40Speaker 3: Pakistani or Bangladesh. People from Muslim countries.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: So no, it's not niggas. Let's be very clear. Yeah,
- 1:22:47Speaker 1: but hearing him talk about immigrants, knowing how we define
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: immigrants here, because we know our president was talking about
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: drawing a fucking border with a country. You know what
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: I mean? Which ironically, by the way, if y'all haven't seen,
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: I have this thing saved. We'll talk about it. Mexico
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: has been listed one of the best countries to live in.
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: In the world.
- 1:23:09Speaker 3: You know what the best state? You know what the
- 1:23:10Speaker 3: best state?
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: Wait, there's a best state to live in?
- 1:23:13Speaker 4: They just recently, I forgot what the, they do an
- 1:23:15Speaker 4: annual report. The best state, based on all of these
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: different factors.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: And we talked about it.
- 1:23:21Speaker 3: Cost of living. Okay. It's crazy.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: New York. Really?
- 1:23:24Speaker 4: I only think they did contribute that to, because there's eight,
- 1:23:28Speaker 4: nine million people that live there.
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: So they have a different. Oh, the census is skewed. Well,
- 1:23:32Speaker 3: to be fair. And then it's the financial capital, right?
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: They make money. That's why fucking Kelly Clarkson was like,
- 1:23:39Speaker 1: I can buy this $ 15, 000 bird.
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: New York City is just a small circle, right? Yes.
- 1:23:45Speaker 3: But a lot of people that's wealthy, they don't live
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: in New York City.
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: No, no, let's be very clear.
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: Or they do in pay houses. So when they say living,
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: I get why Westchester, Rockland County, Albany, I get it.
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Long Island, Suffolk County.
- 1:23:57Speaker 5: But this was a big part of what Mamdani was
- 1:23:59Speaker 5: talking about. And I'm going to move from this to
- 1:24:01Speaker 5: a wider scale in a second. But a lot of
- 1:24:04Speaker 5: the things that Mamdani was talking about was, when he
- 1:24:07Speaker 5: was talking about taxing the 1%, was him standing outside
- 1:24:11Speaker 5: these buildings and being like, the CEO of Microsoft lives
- 1:24:14Speaker 5: on the 78th floor of this building. He doesn't live
- 1:24:17Speaker 5: in New York. He owns a property in New York,
- 1:24:20Speaker 5: and he can use his address in New York. But
- 1:24:22Speaker 5: this motherfucker lives in Connecticut or wherever the fuck he lives.
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: Delaware. Pennsylvania. Florida, maybe. Rhode Island. Rhode Island. Boston.
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: We live in all these other places, but they're here
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: in New York because they do business here.
- 1:24:35Speaker 3: They have an address here. Commerce.
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: Those are them. And I brought up them. But I'm curious.
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: I want to bring it back to Killer Mike. Especially
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: with you having the A hat on, with us being
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: in midterms, with us talking about Floyd and where black
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: voices are pushing an agenda that doesn't seem, you know,
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: great for our community, Killer Mike has gotten that backlash
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: as well.
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: Sure.
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: So in having this conversation, in playing semantics, too, very, very, like,
- 1:25:02Speaker 1: narcissistic of him.
- 1:25:03Speaker 3: I didn't say I was a capitalist. I said I
- 1:25:04Speaker 3: move like a capitalist.
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: Like, let's not... I mean... I fucking hate the word.
- 1:25:07Speaker 3: But also he... The word player.
- 1:25:09Speaker 4: Vic Mensa used a rap lyric. Vic Mensa is a rapper.
- 1:25:12Speaker 3: They know rappers... They say shit. You know, double entendre,
- 1:25:16Speaker 3: triple entendre.
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: Double entendre, then you got niggas that also.
- 1:25:19Speaker 4: Are you going to find to pick a lyric?
- 1:25:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, to an extent, yes, because he explained...
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: So I listened to the episode. Move like a capitalist. Yeah, but...
- 1:25:29Speaker 3: He said move like one.
- 1:25:30Speaker 1: Old Josh said, I did my journalism. I watched the
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: whole episode.
- 1:25:33Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched the episode. Because my thing was like, okay,
- 1:25:35Speaker 5: I understand people have been angry at Mike for a while,
- 1:25:38Speaker 5: way before this, about various things. He had a meeting
- 1:25:42Speaker 5: with Brian Kemp. He took a picture with Brian Kemp.
- 1:25:44Speaker 5: And people have twisted that into he campaigned for Brian Kemp.
- 1:25:47Speaker 5: He actually campaigned for Stacey Abrams. But he did meet
- 1:25:50Speaker 5: with Brian Kemp because Brian Kemp won.
- 1:25:53Speaker 3: He's the governor. Mike wanted to get something done.
- 1:25:55Speaker 1: Diplomacy.
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: Yeah, he has the power.
- 1:25:57Speaker 5: If I want something done, I need to talk to
- 1:25:59Speaker 5: the person that has the power to do the thing
- 1:26:01Speaker 5: that I want done. The same way Mom Donnie sat
- 1:26:03Speaker 5: down with Donald Trump. And everyone praised Mamdani for sitting
- 1:26:06Speaker 5: down with Donald Trump and calling him a fascist to
- 1:26:08Speaker 5: his face and whatever. But no one is looking at
- 1:26:11Speaker 5: Mamdani as if he turned his back on his people
- 1:26:15Speaker 5: because he sat down with Trump twice now. Very public
- 1:26:19Speaker 5: meetings with Donald Trump. Everybody understands where he's at. In
- 1:26:24Speaker 5: regards to Mike, so I agree with you about the
- 1:26:28Speaker 5: semantics part.
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: The semantics. If he walks like a duck, talks like
- 1:26:32Speaker 3: a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
- 1:26:34Speaker 5: And so I understand why people might look at it
- 1:26:36Speaker 5: and not have good faith. It might be like, I
- 1:26:40Speaker 5: hear what you're saying, but that doesn't jive. I also
- 1:26:43Speaker 5: listened to Dr. Jared Ball, who has, I forget what
- 1:26:48Speaker 5: the book exactly is called, but he has a book
- 1:26:51Speaker 5: basically debunking the myth. You hear this stat a lot about, oh,
- 1:26:55Speaker 5: Black America has $ 1. 2 trillion worth of spending power. The
- 1:26:58Speaker 5: spending power.
- 1:26:59Speaker 1: We talk about that a lot.
- 1:26:59Speaker 5: And if we moved our dollars here and did these
- 1:27:02Speaker 5: other things, that we would be able to free ourselves.
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: You agree with that or you don't?
- 1:27:07Speaker 3: No, I don't. Well, no, I agree with Dr.
- 1:27:09Speaker 5: Jerry Ball in that that is a fallacy. And Vic
- 1:27:12Speaker 5: pointed this out to Mike, which he did a really
- 1:27:13Speaker 5: good job at pointing this out to Mike.
- 1:27:16Speaker 3: When you talk about that number, that $ 1. 2 trillion....
- 1:27:20Speaker 5: Like, when you think about the things that people spend
- 1:27:22Speaker 5: most of their money on, that $ 1.
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: 2 trillion is about rent.
- 1:27:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:27:27Speaker 3: It's about car notes.
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: Sustaining life.
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: Sustaining life. You can't not spend money and sustain your life.
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: So that $ 1. 2 trillion isn't a number about....
- 1:27:36Speaker 5: We were born to buy Gucci and Prada. That number
- 1:27:38Speaker 5: is mostly about living and being able to live. Now,
- 1:27:42Speaker 5: are niggas buying some bullshit? Are niggas infatuated with buying
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: shit and keeping a status quo?
- 1:27:47Speaker 3: Sure.
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: But that number was given as a number for companies
- 1:27:53Speaker 5: to figure out how they can target the black community
- 1:27:55Speaker 5: and get more out of us.
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: Which is where the capitalism comes in. That's not them
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: doing commerce.
- 1:28:00Speaker 5: That's them saying, where is the next stone that we
- 1:28:03Speaker 5: can draw all the blood out of and take advantage
- 1:28:06Speaker 5: of those people to suit our own bottom line? In
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: the same year that black women are getting laid off
- 1:28:13Speaker 5: in mass and unemployment is on the rise and people
- 1:28:17Speaker 5: are fucked up.
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: That shit don't affect none of these CEOs.
- 1:28:20Speaker 5: They're all getting seven and nine figure bonuses for the
- 1:28:24Speaker 5: work that they've done in their various companies because their
- 1:28:26Speaker 5: companies are making money. That is the difference between a
- 1:28:31Speaker 5: capitalist structure and the commerce of just someone who owns
- 1:28:35Speaker 5: a business, who, a successful business.
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: I mean, whatever it is.
- 1:28:38Speaker 5: So like, I think we have to really be more
- 1:28:40Speaker 5: intentional about getting to like the granular levels of what
- 1:28:45Speaker 5: these things actually mean and not just making it a
- 1:28:49Speaker 5: blanket statement of, oh, capitalism means making money because that's
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: not what that means.
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: I agree.
- 1:28:53Speaker 4: You know, one of the things I hear when I,
- 1:28:56Speaker 4: with the discourse with Killer Mike over the years and
- 1:28:58Speaker 4: even now is, Even when Kamala was running and it's
- 1:29:01Speaker 4: kind of like challenging her.
- 1:29:04Speaker 3: And I didn't like that.
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie.
- 1:29:07Speaker 3: He went so hard. And I get it. I get it.
- 1:29:09Speaker 3: We should always. Well, only. Not necessarily. When it was
- 1:29:13Speaker 3: her against him. In politics.
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: That was the time.
- 1:29:16Speaker 3: Right. That was the issue. That was the time. And
- 1:29:18Speaker 3: people have a problem with that. That's my thing. That
- 1:29:21Speaker 3: was the time.
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: You're doubling down on. We just lost the moment. Right?
- 1:29:26Speaker 4: So I think what it is with Killer Mike and
- 1:29:29Speaker 4: what I would offer to him is that he understands, look, G.
- 1:29:32Speaker 5: I would love to have Killer Mike on.
- 1:29:36Speaker 3: You are an intellectual. You are revered to the highest degree.
- 1:29:40Speaker 4: And you're a rapper. You come from the rap soil
- 1:29:43Speaker 4: of Outkast, right? So we have a certain expectation for you, right?
- 1:29:49Speaker 4: I think that in this time period, we just need
- 1:29:51Speaker 4: him to make it clear. And I'm not saying that
- 1:29:54Speaker 4: everyone's not on his level, but we're all shouting at
- 1:29:58Speaker 4: each other.
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: Everyone's emotional. And black people, the black community is looking
- 1:30:01Speaker 3: for a win. We're looking for a few wins.
- 1:30:03Speaker 4: And for us, and I know I'm speaking for a
- 1:30:05Speaker 4: lot of people, we look for him as a win.
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: But I don't think he gives us that yet. He's
- 1:30:12Speaker 3: capable of it. But just make it clear.
- 1:30:14Speaker 4: So we can know, so we can figure out how
- 1:30:17Speaker 4: we move around this You know, with so-called leaders.
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: And I consider him one.
- 1:30:22Speaker 4: But I think he just needs to make it clear
- 1:30:25Speaker 4: so we can move accordingly. Because we can just do
- 1:30:27Speaker 4: this podcast shit back and forth and have.
- 1:30:30Speaker 3: The jargon, the lyricism, and the wordplay and all that.
- 1:30:33Speaker 3: That's cool. But make it clear, bro.
- 1:30:35Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that for me, because I understand
- 1:30:37Speaker 4: both sides of things.
- 1:30:39Speaker 3: But I think the masses want you to make it clear,
- 1:30:41Speaker 3: my brother. And that's just it.
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: By the way, pause.
- 1:30:44Speaker 3: Pause.
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: That's the clip.
- 1:30:46Speaker 3: Damn it. Yo, this is going to be part of
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: the podcast. We'll be called out. She's the worst. I
- 1:30:55Speaker 3: was like, let her go. She's the worst. But I
- 1:31:01Speaker 3: also want to say, too. Hey, Killer Mike and King
- 1:31:03Speaker 3: has the best interest. Listen, Killer Mike is a good brother, man.
- 1:31:06Speaker 3: Like I said, we sat down with him many times.
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: And this isn't making the clip. No, no, no. We
- 1:31:11Speaker 3: want people to listen to the episode. The whole thing.
- 1:31:14Speaker 3: The whole thing.
- 1:31:15Speaker 4: I think passionately, look, I said it in a few
- 1:31:18Speaker 4: episodes ago, we don't have no more time left.
- 1:31:21Speaker 3: The clock is ticking. Yeah. After the midterm, after next, what,
- 1:31:24Speaker 3: we got another two weeks? Less than two weeks?
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: Is it?
- 1:31:30Speaker 4: I don't know if we don't make it on the
- 1:31:31Speaker 4: other side of this thing, how we want to see it.
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: We don't know what that looks like. No, 100%. We
- 1:31:36Speaker 3: don't know what it looks like.
- 1:31:40Speaker 5: The other thing I want to say that's kind of
- 1:31:44Speaker 5: expanded out from Killer Mike is that personally, I believe
- 1:31:48Speaker 5: that Killer Mike loves black people.
- 1:31:50Speaker 3: Of course. I believe Killer Mike wants the best for
- 1:31:53Speaker 3: black people.
- 1:31:55Speaker 5: There's always been tension amongst those seeking liberation about what's
- 1:32:00Speaker 5: the right way to go about it. And that can
- 1:32:02Speaker 5: be very polarizing depending on what side of you... We
- 1:32:07Speaker 5: talked about with Deontay about... people working inside a system
- 1:32:11Speaker 5: and people who want to just change the entire system.
- 1:32:15Speaker 5: What's actually a more viable way to go about it?
- 1:32:18Speaker 5: If you think the system is inherently corrupt, what do
- 1:32:20Speaker 5: you think that you can do inside a corrupt system
- 1:32:23Speaker 5: to make it better?
- 1:32:24Speaker 1: Well, there's a difference between rehabilitating and abolishing. And that's
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: been the conversation.
- 1:32:31Speaker 5: And I think that most people are at a point,
- 1:32:33Speaker 5: because we don't have a lot of time, because we've
- 1:32:35Speaker 5: seen all these things happen, I don't think people are interested.
- 1:32:39Speaker 3: In trying to make the bad good.
- 1:32:41Speaker 5: They just want to eliminate the shit that's bad and
- 1:32:44Speaker 5: make something new so that it works for everybody.
- 1:32:47Speaker 3: But what I will say is that.
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: You know how you can't make everybody like you?
- 1:32:51Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: That's my problem.
- 1:32:53Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: This idea that we, the minorities, will create a system
- 1:33:00Speaker 1: that works for everyone. Like, when we have these conversations,
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: that's where I'll be like, it sound good. But it's
- 1:33:06Speaker 1: not going to work for the majority of the country
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: because it's going to serve us, which is going to
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: go against the needs or wants or desires or inner workings.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: Like humanity, unfortunately, as a whole, the fact that we
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: bring up aliens, we talk about like we might be
- 1:33:23Speaker 1: more like these aliens. It makes me feel like the
- 1:33:26Speaker 1: systems that we want to create. would not be viewed
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: as better because we're the minority. And it would have
- 1:33:36Speaker 1: to make us human. And we see that they don't
- 1:33:40Speaker 1: look at us as human.
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: No, no, no. They don't look at us as human
- 1:33:42Speaker 3: at all.
- 1:33:43Speaker 5: But where they fuck, when I say they, I'm talking, really,
- 1:33:46Speaker 5: I'm talking about broke-ass white people.
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: The fucked up part about- It's not even them, hold on,
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: broke ass white people aligned with the rich ass white people.
- 1:33:53Speaker 3: No, rich ass white people. Hold on. They feel like
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: they're like rich ass white people. No, no, exactly. But
- 1:33:58Speaker 3: that's the problem though.
- 1:33:59Speaker 5: They don't realize that you don't have nothing in common
- 1:34:02Speaker 5: with them people.
- 1:34:03Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck about you.
- 1:34:05Speaker 5: If you actually got on the same timing as niggas,
- 1:34:09Speaker 5: you would be better. But you drank the juice of
- 1:34:13Speaker 5: all of this bullshit and so- white supremacy in the
- 1:34:17Speaker 5: American way, in the American dream, in American exceptionalism, and
- 1:34:20Speaker 5: all this other bullshit, that shit was made just as
- 1:34:24Speaker 5: much to confuse you and fuck you over as it
- 1:34:27Speaker 5: was made to fuck us over. You just think it
- 1:34:30Speaker 5: don't apply to you because you white. And that's the problem.
- 1:34:34Speaker 5: If y'all niggas actually got on board with the messaging,
- 1:34:38Speaker 5: everyone could be good.
- 1:34:39Speaker 3: Hardy R. Hardy R. Hardy R.
- 1:34:42Speaker 5: Y'all could be good. Because I don't think black people
- 1:34:45Speaker 5: really want.
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: Revenge.
- 1:34:48Speaker 5: Niggas want to be left alone and niggas want to
- 1:34:51Speaker 5: be good. And if that means that all of y'all
- 1:34:54Speaker 5: can be good, we're not tripping. We're not asking for
- 1:34:56Speaker 5: nobody to really suffer. We're asking for y'all to stop
- 1:35:00Speaker 5: fucking with us. And if that means that y'all can live.
- 1:35:02Speaker 3: A good life and we can live a good life,
- 1:35:03Speaker 3: then so be it. But they've chosen to align themselves.
- 1:35:08Speaker 5: With the 1% and they don't give a fuck about you.
- 1:35:11Speaker 5: Trump don't give a fuck about you. These Republicans don't
- 1:35:14Speaker 5: give a fuck about you. They're trying to help their
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: other rich friends. And y'all think somehow y'all fall into
- 1:35:20Speaker 5: the same category as their rich friends.
- 1:35:22Speaker 3: You do not. I promise you, you do not.
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: Y'all, by the way. Y'all ate this edition. That's another clip. Yomi,
- 1:35:31Speaker 1: can you put that down? We're going to go ahead
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: and clip this nigga on that.
- 1:35:34Speaker 3: Note, guys. I got a question, though. This is ignorant.
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: I got to eat. Me and Yomi, I got to
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: catch up. I'm talking about food right here.
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: Food for thought?
- 1:35:46Speaker 4: I never been to Bankhead Seafood, which is Killer Mike's
- 1:35:49Speaker 4: and T.I.
- 1:35:51Speaker 3: 's establishment. Oh, okay. So if these niggas don't have
- 1:35:55Speaker 3: wild caught fish in that establishment... Fuck that capitalism shit.
- 1:35:59Speaker 1: You know it's farm raised.
- 1:36:01Speaker 3: Nah, we don't know. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
- 1:36:04Speaker 5: So here's the last thing I want to say before
- 1:36:05Speaker 5: we get off of this whole thing. I think that
- 1:36:08Speaker 5: at some point, and the reason I brought up, I
- 1:36:10Speaker 5: believe that Killer Mike loves black people.
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: He's been doing the work for a long time. Yes,
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: he does.
- 1:36:14Speaker 5: We have to decide... There are coons.
- 1:36:20Speaker 3: There are skin folk. Don't do that, John. No, no, no.
- 1:36:22Speaker 3: Listen to me. There are skin folk. But what I'm
- 1:36:25Speaker 3: saying is... Not him. No, no, no, no. But that's
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say.
- 1:36:28Speaker 5: We have to decide the difference between the people that
- 1:36:32Speaker 5: we disagree with and the people who don't love black people.
- 1:36:36Speaker 5: Even if you think that what Killer Mike's saying is harmful, okay, fine.
- 1:36:39Speaker 5: You disagree with it. You think that's a bad idea.
- 1:36:42Speaker 5: I don't have no problem with that. But I think to...
- 1:36:47Speaker 5: Position Killer Mike as the ops, I think, is incorrect.
- 1:36:52Speaker 5: I don't think Killer Mike is the ops. I think
- 1:36:54Speaker 5: we can disagree with some of his ideas or what
- 1:36:57Speaker 5: he thinks is the right way to go about it.
- 1:36:59Speaker 5: That's not a problem. Because not for nothing, Vic did
- 1:37:01Speaker 5: a good job of... pushing back against Killer Mike. But
- 1:37:05Speaker 5: I don't think Vic Mensa, as woke as we know
- 1:37:09Speaker 5: Vic Mensa to be.
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: For those of you listening, there were air quotes?
- 1:37:12Speaker 5: There were air quotes, because I hate that. I'm using
- 1:37:14Speaker 5: air quotes because it's been bastardized. But as much as
- 1:37:17Speaker 5: we know Vic Mensa has.
- 1:37:19Speaker 3: what.
- 1:37:20Speaker 5: We would call the right side of history and understanding
- 1:37:22Speaker 5: of how this shit goes.
- 1:37:23Speaker 3: I don't think Vic Mensa hates Killer Mike.
- 1:37:26Speaker 5: I don't think Vic Mensa is looking at Killer Mike
- 1:37:28Speaker 5: like the opps or something. So what I'm saying is
- 1:37:30Speaker 5: we have to decide the difference between people who love
- 1:37:33Speaker 5: black people and maybe you have an idea that you
- 1:37:35Speaker 5: disagree with and people who are acting in bad faith
- 1:37:38Speaker 5: who you know don't.
- 1:37:39Speaker 3: Love black people. Officer Tatum is not Killer Mike. No.
- 1:37:43Speaker 5: Some of the, I forget the name of these other
- 1:37:46Speaker 5: coon-ass twin niggas.
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: Jason Whitlock? Jason Whitlock is the twin. Oh, the podcast niggas. Yeah,
- 1:37:50Speaker 3: the fuck-ass twin niggas. They're not Killer Mike.
- 1:37:52Speaker 5: Jason Whitlock is not Killer Mike.
- 1:37:54Speaker 3: You might disagree with Killer Mike, and that's fine. The
- 1:37:57Speaker 3: sports nigga. That's the Jason Whitlock. No, the former NFL player. Oh,
- 1:38:03Speaker 3: Emmanuel Acho. Yes. Yeah, niggas like that.
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: Yeah, he tricky.
- 1:38:06Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got some bullshit going on.
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: That's a tricky one.
- 1:38:08Speaker 3: Yeah, he got some bullshit going on. But we have
- 1:38:10Speaker 3: to be able to.
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: I got to talk to Joy about him.
- 1:38:12Speaker 3: I would love to have Joy on the show, too,
- 1:38:14Speaker 3: because I want to talk to Joy.
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: I would love to have Joy.
- 1:38:15Speaker 3: I do want to talk to Joy.
- 1:38:16Speaker 1: When Joy comes back here.
- 1:38:17Speaker 3: We got to have her. Yeah, we got to have
- 1:38:18Speaker 3: a conversation with her.
- 1:38:19Speaker 5: But we have to distinguish between the people who are
- 1:38:21Speaker 5: the enemies of black people and the people that we
- 1:38:24Speaker 5: disagree with.
- 1:38:24Speaker 3: Because there is a push.
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: To figuring out and you have the intellectualism then you
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: have the street code all these different Diasporas of how
- 1:38:38Speaker 1: we even think, right?
- 1:38:39Speaker 3: Yeah, 100%.
- 1:38:39Speaker 1: Oh, God, y'all see my voice.
- 1:38:41Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up and make it clear. That's it.
- 1:38:43Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't win because everything requires nuance. Everything
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: requires comprehension. And Killer Mike and his experience of what
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: he speaks from is going to be different than a
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: black New Yorker.
- 1:38:55Speaker 3: Yes, sure. They all are not also monolithic.
- 1:38:58Speaker 5: We don't have the time. We don't have no more
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: time left. But now we're trying to extend time.
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: But right now, it's urgent.
- 1:39:06Speaker 5: And that urgency leads to a lack of patience. You're
- 1:39:09Speaker 5: not going to have patience when it's urgent. If you're
- 1:39:12Speaker 5: about to get kicked out of your house next week,
- 1:39:14Speaker 5: you don't have time to go on 40 interviews.
- 1:39:16Speaker 3: You're going to sell drugs.
- 1:39:17Speaker 1: You're going to sell that pussy.
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: You're going to sell pussy. You're going to do what
- 1:39:20Speaker 3: you got to do to keep your shit around.
- 1:39:22Speaker 4: Yo, vagina is the most powerful thing. Vagina is the
- 1:39:27Speaker 4: most powerful thing ever.
- 1:39:27Speaker 3: But that's where we're at, though. We're at a desperate time.
- 1:39:30Speaker 1: We are desperate. People aren't. And let's be very clear,
- 1:39:33Speaker 1: before we get out of here, for everyone who has
- 1:39:37Speaker 1: anything extra to give, for anyone who doesn't watch their
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: back when they go grocery shopping and Christmas shopping, this
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: is a very, very tough time for a lot of people.
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: So the way we see packages being stolen and things
- 1:39:53Speaker 1: happening at At the stores.
- 1:39:56Speaker 3: Be safe out there.
- 1:39:57Speaker 1: Keep it close.
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: This is the time.
- 1:39:58Speaker 1: Like, you understand? Like, we got polls. We, at this point,
- 1:40:02Speaker 1: don't know.
- 1:40:02Speaker 3: How they're going to land. Nope.
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: But always the last two months get tricky.
- 1:40:07Speaker 3: Yeah. Listen.
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:40:09Speaker 3: I just broke the monitor. Yeah, it's coming out of
- 1:40:11Speaker 3: your head. I'm going to have to fast. Hold on.
- 1:40:13Speaker 3: Can we tell the fans? I'm going to have to
- 1:40:14Speaker 3: fast for a week.
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no.
- 1:40:16Speaker 3: High sodium. Nah, nah, nah. Nah, I'm going to die.
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 1:40:19Speaker 3: Hold on.
- 1:40:22Speaker 1: I got to go on an.
- 1:40:23Speaker 3: Intermittent fast now. I don't want you to starve. No,
- 1:40:27Speaker 3: I got to starve because I got to put gas
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: in the car. I got... Yo, listen, it's a lot
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: going on, so I take that. I take that.
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: You know what's crazy?
- 1:40:34Speaker 3: No, I take it.
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: You know what's crazy?
- 1:40:36Speaker 3: That's part of being responsible.
- 1:40:38Speaker 1: If that's going to hurt you, we got to talk
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: about what Black Effect is giving you.
- 1:40:41Speaker 3: Oh! You have multiple incomes. Compassionate Catholicism.
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait.
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: This has been the second time there is Charlotte said that.
- 1:40:48Speaker 3: Compassionate Catholicism.
- 1:40:50Speaker 1: Passive Hershey Thrive.
- 1:40:52Speaker 3: Y'all had to be chicken winged in French fries for
- 1:40:54Speaker 3: two weeks.
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: Hold on, real quick.
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: We got to let the people know.
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: So, Deontay walks in. Off camera, let's go ahead and
- 1:40:58Speaker 1: break the fourth wall.
- 1:41:00Speaker 3: Deontay walks in.
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: We're moving it around because it's mad niggas. Up in
- 1:41:06Speaker 1: the goddamn 250 square foot.
- 1:41:07Speaker 3: Studio that I have. Yeah, it was deep in here today.
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: Nah, this is a lot.
- 1:41:11Speaker 3: It was deep in here today.
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: So here goes this, my brother. He throws his luggage.
- 1:41:18Speaker 3: It wasn't luggage. It's a duffel bag. All right. It
- 1:41:20Speaker 3: was a duffel bag. That's sauce. Hold on.
- 1:41:22Speaker 2: Hold on.
- 1:41:23Speaker 3: Hello. That's sauce. That's sauce. That's sauce. That's sauce. That's sauce. Luggage.
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: It's right there. Like the nigga had a carry-on bag.
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: Bring that.
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: Bring that.
- 1:41:29Speaker 3: Bring that. Can you bring that, Yami? Yo, look. It
- 1:41:32Speaker 3: was a duffel bag with a jacket. With a jacket
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: and a hat.
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: Luggage.
- 1:41:36Speaker 7: Wait.
- 1:41:36Speaker 3: He wants to show the people. It was a jacket.
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: It was a jacket.
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: Bro, this is luggage.
- 1:41:40Speaker 7: Hold on.
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: It's a carry-on.
- 1:41:41Speaker 2: Oh, see?
- 1:41:41Speaker 7: Look.
- 1:41:42Speaker 3: What kind of thing is this? Hey, y'all. It's a
- 1:41:44Speaker 3: jacket and a hat in here. That's all it is.
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: And I just... Hold on. Real quick.
- 1:41:49Speaker 1: Back in spirit days, this is too long.
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: I know. They definitely would have charged that. They would
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: have charged that. 300 dollars in spirit. You would have
- 1:41:57Speaker 3: been looking for your shit. Come on. Come on. So
- 1:42:01Speaker 3: real quick.
- 1:42:02Speaker 5: So I launched it, but I mismanaged the distance. I
- 1:42:07Speaker 5: didn't have no strength.
- 1:42:08Speaker 3: I just said, ugh. The hand-eye coordination. And I was like. Ayo.
- 1:42:12Speaker 5: And it hit the elbow of the mat.
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: This motherfucker, the whole monitor.
- 1:42:19Speaker 3: Y'all niggas is crazy, man. Now I got a fast.
- 1:42:20Speaker 3: It's in our video village over here. This is crazy.
- 1:42:23Speaker 3: What can I eat every day that I like? Let
- 1:42:25Speaker 3: me see. Whole monitor falls off the floor.
- 1:42:26Speaker 6: Publix. Publix.
- 1:42:29Speaker 3: Big public sandwiches. I'm going to get a big public sandwich.
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: I'm going to cut it. I'm going to child cut it.
- 1:42:33Speaker 3: I'm going to child cut it. A little piece like this.
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: Because this is going to take off in about a week.
- 1:42:37Speaker 1: He'll pay. Thank you for your time.
- 1:42:39Speaker 3: Tell him, Mike, I need some of that compassionate capitalism. Hey, yo.
- 1:42:43Speaker 3: It's giving you break. It's your bite.
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: And because we've been here for a year. A. King,
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: we're getting an upgrade on the monitor.
- 1:42:50Speaker 3: New monitors. I'm waiting for Yomi to let me know
- 1:42:53Speaker 3: what she wants. The next episode of Selective Ignorance will
- 1:42:55Speaker 3: come to you in 8K HD. Yo, Yomi, you know
- 1:42:57Speaker 3: you the homie, right? Anyways, guys.
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: We really hope you enjoyed this week's episode.
- 1:43:06Speaker 3: Damn. This second half is crazy.
- 1:43:09Speaker 1: Yo, this is crazy.
- 1:43:11Speaker 3: Every time.
- 1:43:12Speaker 1: Again, we're going to have Deontay Kyle back on the pod.
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: I think he's great.
- 1:43:16Speaker 5: That's going to be a good episode. I'm actually looking
- 1:43:18Speaker 5: forward to it. I hope we have good news.
- 1:43:20Speaker 1: Well, we won't have the news yet. We're recording on
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: the second. Oh, that's true.
- 1:43:23Speaker 3: Yeah, it will be the actual day. It'll be the
- 1:43:25Speaker 3: day before. Now you're getting my anxiety up now because
- 1:43:27Speaker 3: I'm like, damn. So we're going to like... We're going
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: to preface our thoughts. Yes, we got this.
- 1:43:33Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, right?
- 1:43:34Speaker 3: I think. I hope.
- 1:43:35Speaker 1: We have a really dope episode coming to you guys
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: on Friday. The next couple weeks, we have a lot
- 1:43:41Speaker 1: of guests.
- 1:43:42Speaker 5: Yes.
- 1:43:42Speaker 1: That we're really proud of.
- 1:43:43Speaker 3: Fantastic guests.
- 1:43:44Speaker 1: We did some dope time in New York. So next week,
- 1:43:47Speaker 1: leading into the final week before midterms, we have Kevin on.
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:43:51Speaker 1: Kevin Ortega.
- 1:43:53Speaker 3: Kevin Ortega.
- 1:43:54Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 1:43:55Speaker 3: Fantastic episode. The shishito hitting her hard. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:02Speaker 3: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:05Speaker 3: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:08Speaker 3: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:10Speaker 3: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:13Speaker 3: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:14Speaker 3: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:16Speaker 3: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:18Speaker 3: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:19Speaker 2: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:20Speaker 3: Kevin Orr. Kevin Orr.
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: I know you ain't showing up.
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: Maybe 7 o'clock. You better get your dick sucked.
- 1:44:26Speaker 7: What?
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: What?
- 1:44:28Speaker 1: You got to spend time with his lady.
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: They're worse things.
- 1:44:30Speaker 5: They're worse things.
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: What?
- 1:44:33Speaker 3: I mean, I just, you know, I only got a
- 1:44:35Speaker 3: table before. I don't even want to talk like that.
- 1:44:38Speaker 3: I bought a table. Oh, yeah, they're tables. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:44:40Speaker 3: Unless you want to stand.
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: I'm not standing.
- 1:44:42Speaker 3: No, but... We'll talk about this off the mic. Anyway,
- 1:44:46Speaker 3: shout out to Jamila.
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: Shout out to Deontay Collins. Y'all check out Grits and Eggs.
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: Shout out to Kevin Ortega, who is our guest next week.
- 1:44:56Speaker 1: And as y'all know, we drop bonus episodes, and we
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: have a very special one dropping this Friday with Glasses Malone.
- 1:45:02Speaker 3: Shout out to Glasses. Shout out to Jason Martin.
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: We talk about the drop.
- 1:45:06Speaker 3: We talk about the West Coast.
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: We talk about biracials.
- 1:45:09Speaker 4: We talk a lot about biracials. At this point, I
- 1:45:11Speaker 4: don't even want to call them bonus episodes, man.
- 1:45:13Speaker 3: We giving y'all this art. We dropping twice a week.
- 1:45:15Speaker 3: We giving y'all this art. This is that art.
- 1:45:16Speaker 1: I need y'all niggas to tune in twice a week.
- 1:45:18Speaker 3: Tell a friend. Tell a friend. Tell your mama. Shit,
- 1:45:20Speaker 3: everybody listen to the podcast and watch them now. Hello. Hey,
- 1:45:23Speaker 3: you know what? I'll say this. I've seen y'all in
- 1:45:25Speaker 3: the comments.
- 1:45:26Speaker 5: Y'all have had a lot of support for what Punch
- 1:45:28Speaker 5: said on our last episode about support and engaging.
- 1:45:33Speaker 3: With the art. If y'all fuck with us, engage with
- 1:45:36Speaker 3: the art. Repost the art. Send the art to your friends.
- 1:45:40Speaker 5: Do the things that make it so that we can
- 1:45:43Speaker 5: do what we do and that we're supported in that
- 1:45:45Speaker 5: same kind of way. Because that shit don't just apply
- 1:45:46Speaker 5: to rappers and singers. That shit applies to all the
- 1:45:49Speaker 5: content that you love, that you take in. Support that
- 1:45:52Speaker 5: shit in a real way.
- 1:45:53Speaker 3: The good ones. The good ones. These will be the
- 1:45:54Speaker 3: good ones.
- 1:45:55Speaker 1: The good ones. I'm so happy to have Yomi back.
- 1:45:58Speaker 3: Big y'all. Big Yomi back. Yomi y'all. Yomi y'all. Hold on,
- 1:46:02Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. And she
- 1:46:05Speaker 3: back timely. Mm-hmm. Because you know what's about to happen? What?
- 1:46:09Speaker 3: The Knicks about to run it up again, baby. Oh,
- 1:46:11Speaker 3: my God.
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: All right.
- 1:46:12Speaker 3: Where controversy thrives. Orange and blue sky, baby.
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: All right. All right.
- 1:46:17Speaker 3: We have to go now. We've had enough. Time to go.
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: On that note, y'all, this is Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives,
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: controversy thrives, and conversations matter.
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: Got it.
- 1:46:29Speaker 1: Peace out.
- 1:46:31Speaker 3: Yeah.
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