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Football at Four: Explaining Some Surprising Recent Eagles Roster Decisions · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: closely watching this team as we've got to the initial
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Speaker 1: 53-man roster. We want to get Andrew's perspective as we've
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Speaker 1: been talking throughout the week, you know, what... Do we
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Speaker 1: know about the roster now and what it could mean
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Speaker 1: moving forward? First of all, Andrew, welcome back into the show.
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Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
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Speaker 2: Josh, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you jumping on today because one of the
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Speaker 1: conversations we were having with Jeff Mosher yesterday I thought
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Speaker 1: was very interesting, which is kind of maybe some of
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Speaker 1: the why. behind some of these decisions with the roster.
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Speaker 1: And for me, Andrew, I want to go to tight
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Speaker 1: end first because we've had so many conversations about what
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Speaker 1: this offense could be and what we know about the
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Speaker 1: history of guys like Sean Mangan and others. And we
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Speaker 1: know Dallas Goddard led this team in touchdowns last year,
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Speaker 1: but he also has a history of injuries. So, As
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Speaker 1: you look at the tight end position, they drafted Eli Stowers, right?
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Speaker 1: They kept Jenkins on the roster. Grant Calcaterra is on
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Speaker 1: injury reserve. Johnny Munt, he's basically here for blocking from
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Speaker 1: what I've been able to surmise. So what is your
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Speaker 1: perspective on the state of the tight end room for
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Speaker 1: the Eagles as.
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Speaker 2: Of right now? Yeah, that one's probably the most confounding
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Speaker 2: to me, Josh. When you talk about Dallas Goddard, you
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Speaker 2: also have to talk about The injury history, yes, last
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Speaker 2: year he missed just one game. That was the Kansas
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Speaker 2: City Chiefs game in Week 2. But apart from that,
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Speaker 2: health has been a bit of a challenge. And so
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Speaker 2: you look about what that could mean. And he's another
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Speaker 2: year older now. So your tight end room would then be,
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Speaker 2: as you outlined, Johnny Muntz. You have E.J. Jenkins and
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Speaker 2: Eli Stowers. This whole matter is complicated by the fact
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Speaker 2: that Eli Stowers has been a little bit slow in
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Speaker 2: terms of his progression. So it's not quite clear yet.
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Speaker 2: when he will be able to contribute to the eagles
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Speaker 2: and i can imagine would be early in the season
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Speaker 2: i know that in a west coast offense you're going
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Speaker 2: to prioritize the tight end so it wasn't really a
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Speaker 2: surprise to me that they rostered four it was the
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Speaker 2: four that they chose to keep now i've noted this
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Speaker 2: in my observations that e j jenkins had impressed me
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Speaker 2: at different stages of training camp in terms of his
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Speaker 2: blocking prowess he has a receiving background. He was a
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Speaker 2: collegiate wide receiver, played for three universities, got to the
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Speaker 2: Eagles at about 240, 245 pounds at 6'6, blossomed into
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Speaker 2: 260 pounds and really took to the blocking aspect. I
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Speaker 2: remember talking to him for a couple years now about that.
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Speaker 2: He takes a lot of pride in that, spent a
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Speaker 2: lot of time working with tight ends coach Jason Michael.
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Speaker 2: He's no longer there. And Dallas Goddard and picking their brains.
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Speaker 2: And I think he was just more of a well-rounded
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Speaker 2: player relative to Cameron Latu. who I didn't think had
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Speaker 2: a particularly strong camp, but he brings so much to
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Speaker 2: the special teams group that it was a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a surprise that they leaned Jenkins in that. But
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Speaker 2: there's a big question there, and I think because you
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Speaker 2: have two blocking-centric tight ends, you have a rookie who
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Speaker 2: isn't where the Eagles need him to be at this point,
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Speaker 2: he's not ready for prime time, and then you have
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Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard. That would be a position that I would
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Speaker 2: imagine the Eagles may look to fortify at some point.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting because you mentioned Fortify. Howie does have a
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Speaker 1: history of making trades right before the season, in-season trades.
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Speaker 1: Do you think it's a trade that might be the
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Speaker 1: kind of way, or do you think this might be
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Speaker 1: a situation where the Eagles are keeping a close eye
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Speaker 1: maybe on guys who could maybe hit the waiver wire?
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Speaker 1: It might be a situation where the Eagles could take
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Speaker 1: advantage of somebody else's roster shuffling.
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Speaker 2: Well, Howie Roseman is always going to leave no stone unturned,
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Speaker 2: and I think at least if it were me, I
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Speaker 2: would let this play out a little bit in the
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Speaker 2: early part of the season, see what you have, evaluate
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Speaker 2: from there. It may not be as dire as what
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Speaker 2: it looks like on paper, so you kind of have
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Speaker 2: to let things develop. But I would imagine that you're
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Speaker 2: going to need a little bit more of a reinforcement
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Speaker 2: than someone on a practice squad or a waiver wire.
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Speaker 2: It would have to be via trade. Maybe it's a
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Speaker 2: free agent who's out there. But I think right now
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Speaker 2: what I would do is kind of just let things
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Speaker 2: develop play out and see what you have and then
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Speaker 2: kind of go from there.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, the other position that I, I feel like the
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Speaker 1: entire world is trying to get more clarity on is
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Speaker 1: what do you think the reasoning is for keeping all
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Speaker 1: four quarterbacks? Because it wasn't like Cole Payton was a
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Speaker 1: guy that there was, there was a ton of teams
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Speaker 1: around the league that were, I mean, I've, I heard
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Speaker 1: stories that there are people trying to convert them to
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Speaker 1: a tight end or other position. So why do you
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Speaker 1: think the Eagles felt the need to keep all four
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the initial 53?
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Speaker 2: Well, the Eagles prioritized the quarterback position, Josh, perhaps more
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Speaker 2: than any other team. Now, it was not a very
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Speaker 2: fruitful summer for Andy Dalton and Tanner McKee. I thought
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Speaker 2: for much of training camp, Andy Dalton had the slight edge.
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Speaker 2: Tanner McKee closed out a little bit stronger, but then
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Speaker 2: you have the preseason game where he fell flat. Andy
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Speaker 2: Dalton finished a little stronger in terms of preseason play,
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Speaker 2: so no one really emerged. But then you have a
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Speaker 2: young quarterback in Cole Payton, and it was widely expected
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Speaker 2: that he's going to be a developmental prospect. It's going
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Speaker 2: to take some time, especially mechanically. But when you have
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Speaker 2: a quarterback with those kind of traits and that athleticism
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Speaker 2: who can maybe offer a multifaceted skill set, you saw
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Speaker 2: him rep a little bit on special teams in the
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Speaker 2: preseason finale, that's not a player that you want to
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Speaker 2: risk parting with. And I think a lot of that,
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Speaker 2: if you're Howie Rosen, I would imagine– You look at
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Speaker 2: Kyle McCord, who they drafted last year in the sixth
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Speaker 2: round out of Syracuse, didn't get nearly the amount of
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Speaker 2: reps that Cole Payton got in training camp, goes elsewhere
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Speaker 2: to the Green Bay Packers, lights it up in training camp,
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Speaker 2: gets traded to the Miami Dolphins, and now he's their
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Speaker 2: backup quarterback. you don't want to risk losing another young player.
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Speaker 2: You want to continue to work with them and develop them.
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Speaker 2: They call themselves the quarterback factory for a reason, and
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Speaker 2: I think every season, every roster transaction can be viewed
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Speaker 2: as a learning experience, and I think maybe that Kyle
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Speaker 2: McCord situation, they're factored into it, and the Eagles really
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Speaker 2: value that position, so they view it as, We have
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Speaker 2: a veteran in Andy Dalton who's 38 years old. He
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Speaker 2: started a number of games in this league. He's entering
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Speaker 2: his 16th season. He's been in multiple offenses. He can
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Speaker 2: be a very effective sounding board and another set of
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Speaker 2: eyes on the field for Jalen Hurts. You have Tanner McKee,
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Speaker 2: who the organization still values. I can tell you that
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Speaker 2: internally there is still a lot of optimism regarding Tanner McKee.
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Speaker 2: It didn't work out for him this summer. Perhaps He
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Speaker 2: was a little bit slow to grasp this offense, and
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Speaker 2: he looked a little hesitant there, but I don't think
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Speaker 2: that their view of him has dampened any. So they
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Speaker 2: all bring something different to the table is what I'm
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Speaker 2: getting at.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's kind of what Nick Foles was saying on
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Speaker 1: his season podcast about how Andy Dalton, he probably knows
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Speaker 1: more than some of the coaches do about certain systems
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Speaker 1: and defenses, and he could be a great guy for
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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks in that room. Andrew DiCicco joining us
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Speaker 1: Looking at the Eagles roster, the initial 53 and beyond. Andrew,
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Speaker 1: I've heard people talk about that they feel like the
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Speaker 1: depth on the Eagles O-line is better this year than
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Speaker 1: it was last year. Do you agree with that sentiment?
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Speaker 2: I do. And really what it stems from is, and
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be transparent, Howie Roseman said this at
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Speaker 2: the podium, that that was one of the areas that
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Speaker 2: he was a little concerned about going into training camp.
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Speaker 2: But then you leave training camp and you feel pretty
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Speaker 2: confident in that young group. Offensive line coach Chris Cooper
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Speaker 2: deserves a lot of credit to this point for developing
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Speaker 2: that group. And I think the biggest indication of his
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Speaker 2: sort of handprints in terms of development is, The summer
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Speaker 2: that Drew Kendall had as a second-year player, he added
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Speaker 2: weight to his frame. He's 305 pounds right now. He's
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Speaker 2: a center by trade, but I thought he did some
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Speaker 2: good things at guard, a lot stronger at the point
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Speaker 2: of attack than you have Willie Lampkin, who did not
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Speaker 2: practice for the Eagles last year. Remember, he was on
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Speaker 2: injury reserve, so this was our first look at him
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Speaker 2: in practice, and he did a nice job. He emerged
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Speaker 2: very quickly from the third team, and he, too, was
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Speaker 2: viewed as a center guard and got reps there. michael
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Speaker 2: morris a young player markel bell another young player and
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Speaker 2: and so you look at all these guys and it's
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Speaker 2: easy to become enamored with what they have uh... not
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Speaker 2: only for the here and now but also potentially for
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Speaker 2: the future so i feel really uh... really confident in
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Speaker 2: this group based off what i've seen now they have
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Speaker 2: to go out there and and perform on the field
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Speaker 2: if their numbers called but i think history will show
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Speaker 2: you and that this offensive line i mean they're they've
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Speaker 2: been there's been a lot of attrition on that line.
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Speaker 2: And so to expect, you know, the five starters to be,
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Speaker 2: to have a clean bill of health all season might
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Speaker 2: be a little bit of a, of a pipe dream,
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Speaker 2: but it should be reassuring that the Eagles have some
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Speaker 2: young talent there behind them waiting in the wings.
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Speaker 1: It is a little over to defense. What is your
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Speaker 1: perspective right now on the edge rusher situation? Because with Bernard,
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Speaker 1: you know, Alton, we're not really sure when he's coming back.
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Speaker 1: I was with Vic Fages a couple weeks ago, and
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Speaker 1: it seems to be the case still. You know, we
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Speaker 1: know Jellick's height. We know what he is. We've heard
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Speaker 1: good things about Nolan Smith coming out of camp, but
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Speaker 1: it feels like, kind of like last year, where it's
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Speaker 1: like they're thin at a position that maybe you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: expect them to be so thin at.
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Speaker 2: I don't view them as being thin there, actually. In fact,
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Speaker 2: I know Vic Fangio mentioned that off-ball linebacker, ILB as
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Speaker 2: he calls them, is probably the deepest position on defense.
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Speaker 2: I would counter that and maybe look at edge rusher
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Speaker 2: as one of those positions because if there were a
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Speaker 2: position group that could withstand if Jonathan Grenard isn't going
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Speaker 2: to be available for week one or week two, it
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Speaker 2: would be that edge rusher room because of the progression
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Speaker 2: of a Jay Lux Hunt. I thought Nolan Smith, while
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Speaker 2: he doesn't get talked about a lot, really showcased his physicality,
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Speaker 2: some juice as a pass rusher. Most importantly, he's healthy
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Speaker 2: right now. He should benefit from more snaps. Jay Lux Hunt,
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Speaker 2: I think, is primed for a breakout season. He made
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Speaker 2: a play every practice. And then you have players beyond
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Speaker 2: them that are experienced veterans in A.K. Abacatey, You have A.J. Epinesa,
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Speaker 2: who is being asked to do different things in this
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Speaker 2: system that he hasn't had to do at any other
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Speaker 2: point in Buffalo. But I think that he's progressed nicely.
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Speaker 2: And you have other players, you know, beyond that on
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Speaker 2: the practice squad, like Keyshawn James Newby. But the point
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Speaker 2: that I'm driving home here is that they are well-stocked
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Speaker 2: at this position. Each player brings something different to the table.
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Speaker 2: And when Jonathan Grenard does return... I'm not expecting him
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Speaker 2: to all of a sudden take on 55, 60 snaps.
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Speaker 2: He hasn't practiced at all with the Eagles. He hasn't
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Speaker 2: practiced at all since December. He had the shoulder injury
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Speaker 2: with the Vikings. So they may have to slow play
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Speaker 2: that a little bit and gradually build him up throughout
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Speaker 2: the year. You also have to wonder where he is
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Speaker 2: in terms of just a physical strength perspective because he
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Speaker 2: hasn't been able to lift weights with that pec strain,
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Speaker 2: I would imagine. I think all things taken into account here,
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Speaker 2: the Eagles have enough there to navigate the interim if
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Speaker 2: Grenard isn't going to be back to start the season.
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Speaker 1: What do you think the, you know, when, if there's
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Speaker 1: ever a situation where Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis are
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Speaker 1: not on the field, you know, we know about Mauro Adjomo.
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Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to try to get Adjomo
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Speaker 1: more opportunities this year because of the year he had
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Speaker 1: last year? Or do you think he is solidly going
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Speaker 1: to be in the context of a, number three D-tackle reps?
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Speaker 2: I'm smiling as you ask that question because I am
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Speaker 2: bullish and have been bullish on Mauro Jomo, one of
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Speaker 2: my favorite players, if not my favorite player to watch
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Speaker 2: on the Eagles defense. Extremely violent. He actually played the
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Speaker 2: most snaps of any Eagles defensive tackle last season. I
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Speaker 2: believe he had 740. It was 66% of the defensive snaps.
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Speaker 2: Now there's context there. Jalen Carter missed the week six
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Speaker 2: game against the Giants with a heel injury. Of course,
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Speaker 2: he missed three down the stretch with the shoulders injury. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, I think that he is going to continue
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Speaker 2: to be someone that they lean on. I don't know
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Speaker 2: that he'll take on the same amount of snaps that
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Speaker 2: he had last year, all things equal, if everyone's healthy.
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Speaker 2: But you also have other players behind Mauro Jomo as well.
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Speaker 2: Byron Young, I would say, is one of the more
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Speaker 2: underrated and important depth pieces on this team. Someone who
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Speaker 2: Vic Fangio likes, he trusts. He gives you positional versatility.
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Speaker 2: He's a backup nose tackle. And so there's a lot
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Speaker 2: of trust and confidence in him that if his number's called,
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Speaker 2: he can step in and give you quality production as well.
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Speaker 2: And then, of course, the shining star of the preseason,
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Speaker 2: one of them was Ty Robinson. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: relitigate what McManus had to say and what that meant,
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Speaker 2: but I can tell you that watching Ty Robinson through
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Speaker 2: about the second half of training camp, after he'd gotten
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a dust-up with Tyler Steen, he'd
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Speaker 2: almost unlocked a confidence in him and it sort of
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Speaker 2: awakened him a little bit. He was playing with a
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Speaker 2: lot more ferocity. I thought that his hand usage, his
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Speaker 2: violence at the point of attack was a lot more apparent,
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Speaker 2: and that's really what you want to see. But three
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Speaker 2: weeks of production and training camp isn't probably going to
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Speaker 2: be enough to leapfrog Byron Young in the pecking order,
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Speaker 2: but it does indicate that he's playable and that he's
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Speaker 2: someone that if he needs to step in, he's going
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Speaker 2: to give you some quality reps.
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Speaker 1: Finally, Andrew, I wanted to hit on with you the
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Speaker 1: safety position because I feel like there's a lot of,
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Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to project anything on anyone, but
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Speaker 1: people who are not from the Inside the Birds podcast,
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Speaker 1: I'll put it that way, okay? People who are not ITB,
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Speaker 1: like you and Jeff and Adam, who are maybe putting
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Speaker 1: out some misinformation, shall I call it, about what is
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Speaker 1: going on, who is going to play safety, what are
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Speaker 1: the reps going to look like, what is that position
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Speaker 1: going to look like this year?
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Speaker 2: Well, Drew McCuba is going to take the top spot
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Speaker 2: there and handle that re-blanketship-esque role. Communication is going to
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Speaker 2: be paramount with him. He's a young player that started
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Speaker 2: 10 games last year, but I really like the way
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Speaker 2: that he acquitted himself this summer. He didn't necessarily come
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Speaker 2: up with any interceptions, but it's about limiting mistakes, communicating,
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Speaker 2: and being where you need to be. Being fundamentally sound
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Speaker 2: and assignment sound is critical aspects of what Vic Fangio
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Speaker 2: asks of his safeties. So I feel pretty confident in Makuba.
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Speaker 2: Marcus Epps is a steady veteran. There's a lot of
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Speaker 2: trust there. He had a really quiet summer, but that's
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Speaker 2: not always indicative of whether a player had a good
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Speaker 2: or a bad summer. But he's not a ball hawking safety,
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Speaker 2: but he is someone who's going to handle the communication,
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Speaker 2: be essentially a traffic cop back there. He's taken the
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Speaker 2: lion's share of the reps when the Eagles are in
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Speaker 2: nickel opposite Makuba. And I think that he brings you
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Speaker 2: a physical element there at safety that Michael Carter II
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Speaker 2: is a player that I was really impressed with going
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Speaker 2: into training camp. I thought that he was going to
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Speaker 2: emerge as the starter. It just gives you a lot
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Speaker 2: more optionality, the ability to be multiple on defense. And really,
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Speaker 2: when you look at the way the NFL defenses are trending,
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Speaker 2: this modern era, you're seeing more players of the build
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Speaker 2: of a Makuba or a Michael Carter. And I like
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Speaker 2: his movement ability, his eye discipline. He had three interceptions
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Speaker 2: in training camp, led the Eagles there, and found himself
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Speaker 2: around the football quite a bit. But I think Josh...
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Speaker 2: his versatility almost works against him here because he wears
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Speaker 2: three different hats, nickelback, safety, and he's the Eagles' dime,
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Speaker 2: defensive back as well. So he might be too valuable,
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Speaker 2: and if you're Vic Vanjie, you want to have him
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Speaker 2: on standby so you can deploy him wherever is needed.
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Speaker 2: So I think they have a solid three there, and
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Speaker 2: then let's not forget Cooper DeGene repping there in base
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Speaker 2: when the Eagles are in base. So I think they
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Speaker 2: have a decent amount of talent there, different types of
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Speaker 2: skill sets. And I also want to say that it
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Speaker 2: is a shame that Andre Sam injured himself in the
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Speaker 2: preseason finale. He was lighting it up. This is a guy, Josh,
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Speaker 2: who for two summers he found himself on the outside
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Speaker 2: looking in. I thought last summer was going to be
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Speaker 2: the year that he was able to latch on. But
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Speaker 2: then definitely this year, the way he was playing and
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Speaker 2: the reps that he was getting in training camp, it's
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Speaker 2: very clear that Vic Fangio, Joe Casper, they really like him.
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Speaker 2: I thought that he might have been able to elbow
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Speaker 2: his way into the roster conversation. and then he suffers
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Speaker 2: an injury and is not able to leave on his
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Speaker 2: own terms. That was a shame to see. But that's
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Speaker 2: sort of the synopsis there of what I've observed from
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Speaker 2: the safety room from 17 practices.
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Speaker 1: Of course, again, this is the initial 53. There could
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Speaker 1: be more changes. We've still got several days to go
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Speaker 1: before Eagles versus Commanders Week 1. Of course, you can
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Speaker 1: great stuff today. Enjoy the weekend. It's your final weekend
18:03
Speaker 1: without the Eagles. You have college football, but you can
18:06
Speaker 1: relax a little bit for that, right?
18:09
Speaker 2: There's always work to be done, Josh. There's always work
18:11
Speaker 2: to be done. But I appreciate you, man. Take care.