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Patriots Unfiltered 4/7: Hall of Fame Nomination Committee Recap, Draft Prospects That Fit with New England · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Fred Yeah, once again, Mike do so closet, bad guy
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  Speaker 1: and all of our discugs just out of nowhere. You didn't,
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  Speaker 1: Just because he has a smile on his face when
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  Speaker 1: he throws them rocking shots doesn't mean he's nice. Right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean all right, you mean so? Um, I guess
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  Speaker 1: the big news and Patriots world is Matt Jones little
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  Speaker 1: the Matt Jones passing camp in Tampa. Yeah, I see
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  Speaker 1: in Tampa. I don't know. I don't like it. What
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  Speaker 1: and what what are we ann about? I think we
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  Speaker 1: should not focus so much on that. Why it was
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  Speaker 1: on the internet. We didn't put it out he did, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right, you know they worked out. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was good to see all those guys together.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, at this point you didn't even have
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback. So and then DeVante Parker, I guess made
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  Speaker 1: his way down, so getting some work in. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's good. And you know, somebody pointed it out today
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  Speaker 1: and one of Paul shows that. You know, when you're
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  Speaker 1: not the rookie, you have extra time and you can
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  Speaker 1: do stuff like this. You're not like in a whirlwind.
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  Speaker 1: So good stuff. I love it. And he's the starter.
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  Speaker 1: He knows he's the starter. He should be running this
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing. I love it. Yeah, Born, good energy
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  Speaker 1: from Born as always. Yeah, he's always and and I
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  Speaker 1: did think Jacobe Myers looked big. Paul pointed out Devantae
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  Speaker 1: Parker's abs, but I thought Jacoby looked like he had added.
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  Speaker 1: They all had the short off except mac wow. Oh
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  Speaker 1: I fell on the pool. My shirt still on played
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  Speaker 1: the role of middle school due. So that's good to see.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a Patriots fan, you love it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: anything every little thing helps. Paul and I took part
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  Speaker 1: in the Patriots Hall of Fame UH nomination committee yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: How many harumps were? There were several harumps, several they
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  Speaker 1: carried over into this morning. Actually I didn't lead the
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  Speaker 1: meeting in harumps, Fred did oh really there were several harrumps?
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  Speaker 1: Yea from you or from. We don't know who the
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  Speaker 1: top three are yet. Though we do not know, we
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  Speaker 1: do not so the way it works for anyone interested,
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  Speaker 1: there's a committee of twenty and we put in our
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  Speaker 1: we do our discussion, and we end up with three
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  Speaker 1: top candidates who are then presented to the fans for vote.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know. I know who I voted for. I
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  Speaker 1: voted for Vrabel number one, um Welcer number two, when
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  Speaker 1: Mankins number three and I had the same three just
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  Speaker 1: slightly changed. I had Welcer, Vrabel Mankins right, But we
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  Speaker 1: don't know what everybody else did, and we don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the final tally is. That we'll get released pretty soon. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that we're putting some production value to that
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  Speaker 1: to get it on the site. So we have the
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  Speaker 1: three finalists that will be out there. I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 1: I thought there was I think there are a half
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  Speaker 1: dozen or so. In my mind, really like pretty locked
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  Speaker 1: solid Patriots Hall of Famers. But and this Stacy James,
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  Speaker 1: the vice president of Media Relations, I thought made a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting, well just really simple point. Come to vote
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  Speaker 1: with the one guy that you think is the most deserving,
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  Speaker 1: and if you don't, if he's not nominated. Obviously you
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  Speaker 1: need to nominate, but just have that one guy in mind.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to the room and then make your decision accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: And to me, while there were a lot of deserving
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famers, I think there's one guy that's most deserving,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why I picked Welca. Fred took Rabel. I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't argue with Fred. I think Rabel's been a final
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  Speaker 1: five years in a row. Susan Lucci and and Fred
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  Speaker 1: nominated Rabel at the meeting yesterday and basically did he
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  Speaker 1: did a great job with the simplicity like he's been
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  Speaker 1: five years in a row. There's nothing that's really changed
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  Speaker 1: in the five years to his candidacy, right, Um, and
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  Speaker 1: and I understand. Look listen, if like Bill Belichick and
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady suddenly became eligible, Rabel's not the top of
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  Speaker 1: the list anymore. I get that. But um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Rabel is more than deserving to be a Patriot's Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer. I don't know if he'll get in this year.
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  Speaker 1: Welker to me, I mean the all time leading you
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  Speaker 1: made a great history made. I make a lot of
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  Speaker 1: great points. Usually make a great point, you know. Karen
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  Speaker 1: Grigian from the Boston Herald actually nominated Welker, but I
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  Speaker 1: supported her argument just by saying, and you know, all
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  Speaker 1: these things we talk about, all these superlatives and what
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  Speaker 1: they did. And Karen had made the point that the
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  Speaker 1: O seven offense with Brady and that crew of receivers
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  Speaker 1: really kind of laid the groundwork to what you see
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  Speaker 1: now with passing games, which was a thousand percent true.
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  Speaker 1: But on top of that, if you look at OH eight,
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  Speaker 1: that was the year that Brady didn't play, the numbers
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  Speaker 1: for Wes Welker and OH seven and O eight are
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  Speaker 1: virtually identical with Matt Castle, right like, which tells you
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't just a problem. Not saying he wasn't aided
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  Speaker 1: by Tom Brady, that would be foolish. Tom Brady is
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  Speaker 1: the guy. They're all aided by Tom Brady. But he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't solely a product of Tom Brady. He did it.
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  Speaker 1: He could get against anybody, and that was what carried over.
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  Speaker 1: I just I feel bad with Welker because it always
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  Speaker 1: comes back to Super Bowl forty six, and I just
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  Speaker 1: feel people forget about how exciting and how fun and
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  Speaker 1: how beloved he was before that moment, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people only see him through that lens of that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one play which I mean to be to honest, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was as much a little bit off
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  Speaker 1: of a throw could have been thrown, a little better
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  Speaker 1: could have been I think the ball should have been
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  Speaker 1: cut and I think it should have been a better throw.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a bad throw. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a game like they had more chance. Is like, I
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  Speaker 1: know that that would have been a great you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably would have given them more points and maybe would
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  Speaker 1: have put them ahead. But you know, it was no guarantee.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he dropped a wide open touchdown and
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  Speaker 1: then they lost. After that, they both deserved equal uh
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  Speaker 1: sheriff blame for that. Yeah, I mean, how about if
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  Speaker 1: it was he had to do with three it was
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  Speaker 1: just perfect. No, you're right, You're right. And I always,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I always cite the Dallas Cowboys. One from
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  Speaker 1: the seventies, Jackie Smith yea, the veteran tight end who
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  Speaker 1: had a hawkestan in America, had a Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: career with the Cardinals, finished up his career with Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Roger Staubach had him right in the chest in the
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  Speaker 1: end zone. He dropped it he dropped and that the
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  Speaker 1: famous thing that Eric just said. Put Jackie Smith. He
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  Speaker 1: must be the sickest man in America, right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: did everybody just say, well, I can't put him in
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, right, Yeah, No, he's a pro
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  Speaker 1: football Hall of Famer because he had a great career. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think we got a little overshadowed by Moss, I
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  Speaker 1: mean by oh seven in general. Um, I wonder and
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  Speaker 1: Kronk eventually, but I do wonder, and I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't mean this is a slight on anybody. I just
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  Speaker 1: wonder how how much Moss and Welker were connected, and
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  Speaker 1: how much of that success kind of went hand in
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  Speaker 1: hand a little bit, you know, not to take anything
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  Speaker 1: away from him. I just think it absolutely possible, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I think, if I'm going to be fair, I
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  Speaker 1: was telling this to Mike because Mike wasn't here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when we were you know, and I often said that
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  Speaker 1: Moss creates a lot of space for Welker, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's absolutely true. But look what Welker did with it, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of guys that benefit from
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  Speaker 1: having a great I mean, don't tell me, Edelman didn't
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  Speaker 1: benefit from Gronk right, you know, you know, going down
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  Speaker 1: the seam all that time. But these guys were great, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would argue that Edelman is going
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  Speaker 1: to be, you know, going right into the Patriots Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame. Absolutely, and no should they? Yeah, the other
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  Speaker 1: the other is the same. Yeah. The other point I
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  Speaker 1: may this morning was just O nine. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: team when he got hurt in that finale against Houston,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they kind of folded. I mean they
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  Speaker 1: I just I think it spoke to how much he
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  Speaker 1: meant to that team. And I've just never seen a
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  Speaker 1: Patriots player go from so beloved to everything kind of
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  Speaker 1: changed with that with that one play, and then maybe
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  Speaker 1: kind of maybe got a little reinforced that he went
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  Speaker 1: to Denver. And I think it was the franchise thing too,
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  Speaker 1: when you know, the Patriots aside to franchise him because
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't work out a deal, and then he signed
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  Speaker 1: it and they were like, oh, whoa, that that hurts
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  Speaker 1: the salary cap. Here we go again, huh. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that people got upset about that. I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: think the team was caught a little bit off guard.
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  Speaker 1: With that, and I think that led to some bad
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  Speaker 1: blood and I think it's interesting. But that's fans like
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  Speaker 1: and I understand, like that's part of being a fan.
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  Speaker 1: I say it all the time. I would think, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what the you know, because we should find
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  Speaker 1: that out before the end of the week, right, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Probably we'll see what the voting was. But
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised to hear other people in the meeting
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  Speaker 1: and we're not you know, Fred and I are not
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  Speaker 1: allowed to tell you what other people said, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what other people voted, so I'm not hiding that.
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  Speaker 1: But I was surprised that there was as much talk
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  Speaker 1: about the guys as there was. Well, I kind of,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I kind of went in thinking Welker
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  Speaker 1: is head and shoulders here. I didn't. I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: it was a very difficult choice. My my tough choices
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  Speaker 1: were two, three, four, five, and six, and it was
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  Speaker 1: what Fred's you know, it's Rabel Mankins will fork again.
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  Speaker 1: I think all of fame in. Bill Parcels has been
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  Speaker 1: a finalist several times. Obviously he's worthy, and Lawyer Malloy
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  Speaker 1: is another guy I think is you know now, I
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  Speaker 1: think a distant sixth in this group of those of
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  Speaker 1: those other five. But Brian Morey, you know, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: say Brian Moorey because he's one of us. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I can talk to him. Did a
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  Speaker 1: great job of comparing and contrasting Um Lawyer malloy and
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  Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison. Lawyer Molloy's numbers across the board are better,
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  Speaker 1: with the exception of postseason interceptions. Yeah, you know, so
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  Speaker 1: there's a guy, Um, he's not He's not going in
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  Speaker 1: anytime soon, Lawyer Milloy. No, it would make me happy
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  Speaker 1: to see Welker going. I feel like that would that
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  Speaker 1: would just bring it back to a guy that you know,
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  Speaker 1: was was one of those team defining players of that
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  Speaker 1: of that of that little stretch right there that they had.
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  Speaker 1: It was Oh no, just commenting on the full screen
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  Speaker 1: that they have up on NBC Sports posts and they're
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  Speaker 1: missing a draft pick. Draft pick, Yeah, the fifth round
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  Speaker 1: that they just got from Miami. Come on better, come
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  Speaker 1: on wow. Yeah, So a flagship. You know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: always interesting five, you know, I think to be in
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  Speaker 1: that room. I think though we could cut it probably
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  Speaker 1: by half an hour if people didn't pontificate the way
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  Speaker 1: they do about guys that we've talked about fifteen times.
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  Speaker 1: Could we talk about the case for Vrabel, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: all in for Vrabel, but I just wonder how you
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  Speaker 1: how you make the case because I don't I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so touchdowns in the series, I mean those kind of
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  Speaker 1: things specific not My criteria is how they were as
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  Speaker 1: a player, obviously, how how good they were, but also
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  Speaker 1: their contribution to the team's success. And I think Vrabel
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  Speaker 1: epitomizes that. You know, he he came in, he played
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  Speaker 1: like four positions, including middle linebacker, which he was, but
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  Speaker 1: he just did it, you know, um and played all
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  Speaker 1: of them well, had great numbers, made key plays in
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  Speaker 1: key games, has like ten catches and every one of
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  Speaker 1: them is a touchdown. I mean, so it's not a
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  Speaker 1: gimmick anymore, you know, Like you know, so like I
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  Speaker 1: just think that everything they asked him to do he
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  Speaker 1: did at a really high level, you know. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: for that reason, I nominated Mike Rabel all time, all
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  Speaker 1: time sense of humor too right, every but everything Fred said,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, a highly productive guy in terms of tackles,
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  Speaker 1: edge guy could get after the passer. They had trouble,
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  Speaker 1: you know, stopping the run in oh five, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and injury with with Teddy Bruski not playing, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: selflessly moved to the inside a position that really wasn't
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  Speaker 1: his forte and was excellent and helped and sort of
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  Speaker 1: stabilize things in terms of Runde defense in that oh
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  Speaker 1: five season. The tight end thing, I mean, he was
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  Speaker 1: a tight end, you know, like Fred's right that that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't to get You should have used that as your
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  Speaker 1: argument back in the Lander and Roberts days. He wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't playing. He wasn't playing as like an extra tackle.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't like you know, some three hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: pound tackle who's out there, and that you slipped Nate
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  Speaker 1: Solder out that's a trick. He was playing tight end
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  Speaker 1: as well as your tight ends were, right, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's a special player and really really productive player for
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  Speaker 1: whatever height. Yeah, and his play contributed to their success,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt. You know, I think the big wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: another big plays in the Super Bowl, the touchdowns, but
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  Speaker 1: the sacks, I mean did he have the I mean
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  Speaker 1: he had a big one against Kurt Warner. I remember
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  Speaker 1: the hit, right Yeah, it was Tylaw credited and he
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  Speaker 1: had a he had a strip sack in Carolina against
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  Speaker 1: Carolina again in that Super Bowl. Yeah, and it'd be
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  Speaker 1: cool to see Vay. We'll get it, just like guys
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  Speaker 1: like Welker. I'm all on, but you know, receivers get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of attention and accolades and all that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: for a guy who's a former outside linebacker, not like
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  Speaker 1: an all time sacker, but just a great football player.
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  Speaker 1: Part of it would be cool to see him going,
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  Speaker 1: although you'd have to probably schedule in the off season
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  Speaker 1: to get him here, I would imagine, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: unless they like play Tennessee. And I'm waiting next year
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  Speaker 1: for someone to nominate Rob Nikovic. You know, there was upset. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Paul can't say anything right now. You know, there's just
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  Speaker 1: so many guys that are just solid players, solid players
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  Speaker 1: like don't need to have like superlative accolades attached to
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  Speaker 1: their names because they played for the Patriots, right, And like,
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  Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of guys that are deserving already
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  Speaker 1: that aren't you. Yeah, a lot of luskies. What is
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  Speaker 1: some fan you know what I'm referring to. I have
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  Speaker 1: a question for the panel, who's actually part of this?
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  Speaker 1: When you get a case of a guy like Rabel,
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  Speaker 1: who's been nominated a bunch of time times clearly deserving,
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  Speaker 1: and then a guy like Welker shows up, who, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: depending on your viewpoint, is even more of a shoe
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  Speaker 1: in than that guy, and you know he gets nominated
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  Speaker 1: because that's the first time he's able to be nominated.
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  Speaker 1: Do you does the room lean towards the guy who's
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  Speaker 1: had the nominations already or the guy who's the sure thing.
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  Speaker 1: I can't tell you what the room I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like what, I have no idea. I told
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  Speaker 1: you I leaned to Welker, but I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: everybody else is going to do. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and when, when and when we publish him?
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  Speaker 1: We don't tell the fans this guy got the most votes.
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  Speaker 1: We do it in alphabetical order. No, I know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trying to get a gauge on what like if
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  Speaker 1: there's a discussion that comes up, they were like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's it's his first year to be nominated, but
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  Speaker 1: this guy's been nominated five times. Do we give credit
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  Speaker 1: to the before that, you know, we had the session,
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  Speaker 1: I emailed Stacy and I said, would we ever consider
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  Speaker 1: a new rule where if a guy gets on the
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  Speaker 1: nomination ballot five years in a row in a row?
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  Speaker 1: And Stacy was like, no way, Yeah, you know I
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  Speaker 1: And his point is there's never been a guy who
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  Speaker 1: was the number one vote getter who didn't eventually make
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  Speaker 1: the haul. But didn't he correct that yesterday when he
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: was going over all the different people. People said that
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: that year, but like, no one that who had been
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: a number one didn't get in eventually. That's oh, didn't
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: get in evance eventually eventually. Yeah, I think I think
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that's a little bit. See, I don't envy Stacy because
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: it's it's there's no because I when they initially did this,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy, you can't do it
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: this way. And then we were like sitting around and
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Fred and I were with Stacy, Brian, several other people.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Matt Smith was involved trying to figure out what is
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the best way to do this, and we came up
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: with all kinds of different ways. They all have flaws.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Every every way, every thing that you could come up with,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: there's a flaw to it. So it's not an easy
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: thing to come up with a perfect solution, right, but
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: there is a log jam. But but the argument was
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: like the fans don't know. And then you know, one
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of the one of the examples is Raymond Claiborne when
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: he was the number one right UM fans. You know,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the room thought, no, the fans are never going to
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: vote him in. And he was going up against you know,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: some current guys and he got in. He got in,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the fans voting him in. But that seat, there was
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: a very specific thing that happened, uh that year, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you had let's say, Wes Welker and Mike Rabel and
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Ray Claiborne. So what happened A vote gets split between
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the two popular guys, right, And you know, it was
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a very I think a very fortuitous year because Claiborne
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: absolutely deserves to be in and I thought that a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: guy like that would never get in, um, but it
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: happened to be the perfect storm of two guys that
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: split the vote and then he kind of snuck his
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: way through the Lorens guy back door. I like your idea, though, Fred, Like,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for a guy who's like, clearly if he's been nominated
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: that many years in a row, clearly he's gonna be in, Like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: let the guy in right. You know. That was literally
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue when you started to
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: say that, I'm like, why don't you limit it? So
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: then it's like, all right, it's now or never. If
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you're voting for Raybel, this is it, you know, and
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: if not, especially like you get you know, and I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: know that you can't you can't think of these kinds
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: of things. But I think get logistics, and like what
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Mike had talked about, like if you had Raybel and Welker,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: they're both currently they're coaching in the league, right, so
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you're not going to have their traditional arguest setting here
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to get those guys back, why not put him in together,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you know, just put him in right and move along. Yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: you know, and you can't. You can't just change the
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: rules midstream. And I get that. And like I said,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I used to push back on Stacy a lot on
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the one per year in the fan vote, but I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: don't really, I don't have a solution that's better. I don't,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and I believe man Fred and I have spent more
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: time than we care to talk. I mean, you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you could turn the nomination committee into a selection committee
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: and then the fans don't vote. You know. But and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you guys were talking about what is the room like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and I would say that it's when when you have
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: guys like raybel Mankins, Will Fork and Welker you know ourselves.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But they all get they all get nominated, they all
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: get spoken of very highly. People's second you know, the nomination,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: they they add, you know, like like my insightful comment
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight, which evidently is resonated. Sniff.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of further adding on when when Fred nominated,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Vybel I thought Mike Reis did a great job of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: talking about just how much he meant to the team
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: going beyond. You know, his toughness, is playing hurt, his
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: willingness to stand up and be a leader, you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: right from the day he got here. I remember the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Andy Katzenmoyer thing. I've told that story a million times. Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: they played in college. He an Ohio State guy, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Katzimoya went a wall and Rabel was a free agent.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: He had just gotten here and he's got to deal
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: with this because everybody's asking him because oh, you went
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: to Ohio State, you know, with Andy Catsimore, and he
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: dealt with that like as professionally as you could. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: just thought he was a really strong leader did all that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot of positive things that get said
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: about the guys. The only guy who ever gets any
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: pushback is Parcels, and for obvious reasons, Parcels is a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: lightning rod candidate because of the way he left. So,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, you have no idea
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: who how the room is going to go. Because Fred
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: says Rabel, everybody says Rabel's great. You know, Mike says Willford.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody Wilfork's great. No one says but will Ford. No
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: one does that, Yeah, no one. So I have no
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: idea who was you know, who is going to be
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the pick? I really don't. To me, it was easy,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: but it won't be. It won't be easy because everybody
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: has a different thought. Yeah. So we'll see, you know,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: when the top three come out and then the fans vote.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So it's still a little acrimonious with Parcels. There's some
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, well Mets Me and Brian Moore, Fred and Brown.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I'm on that wall, you know, I listen, I have
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: not I he's a great coach. He's the second greatest
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: coach we've ever had, and he's in the Pro Football
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. He's also a great talent evaluator. I'll
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: give him that. I will tell you yesterday. But when
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: we when we sat down, I tweeted out, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: heading into the meeting, who do you guys like? By
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: far and away, the most was parselves. Oh yeah, you
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: tweeted out to who Twitter? I mean just regular fans
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and parcels all Twitter, all of Yes. I tweeted it
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: out and everybody get this going. I added that that
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Joe Horrigan got it from from Pro Football. Um no,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: ill tweeted out who do you guys like? And the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: vast majority of my mentions were like, can we just
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you know, get it over with your followers? But but
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that that could be true. But Parsels has been and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: he has been a finalist, and he's not come close,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: right vote yeah, And I don't think he ever will listen, Like,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, like, you know, go on strike if
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: he gets in, because you're, like, you know, like because
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you're fire, you're you're you're you're like balanced. You look
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: at things from from a couple of different ways. When
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you're not on this. I just can't get over, Like
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: because it's a team Hall of Fame, I just can't
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: get over how he treated the team. Yeah. I mean
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that's like like if if you were IBM and you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: had like employee of the Centuries, you know, awards and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: you know, there was this amazing salesperson, but at the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: end he like torched the place. I just can't put
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: him in there like any other company. I know, sports
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: is different, but who shall not be named, yes, probably
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: not gonna get into the hall. Yeah right, you know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: so like I don't know what about that that makes
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: me think of Moss. Yeah, like if he were here longer,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: like I think most people think he wasn't here long enough.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: If he was here a lot, he'd be a shoeing Yeah.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I think that's the problem with Moss. He's a tough
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: one because because of the way he left so well,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: but he was okay, he kind of talked his way out,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: like yeah, oh yeah. I definitely like Mancus had Mancus
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Mancus had acrimony with the team. I think he should
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: be in Yeah. I mean, you know, um a little
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: so I don't bless A little different when when you're
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a player. You can't control that a lot of time.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You know, you have to stick up for yourself sometimes
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: because it's such a business. But Paracels didn't need to
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: do what he did. Yeah, the compact was thick in
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: this morning is I'm like Parcels. He's kind of one
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of the grandfathers of the Patriots dynasty. But he cheated
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: on grandma and he took the dog with him when
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: he left him and Curtis Mark, you know, like, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: can't get that propaganda thing out, can't get take the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: boy out of the propaganda, can't take it's a good cup.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But I but I get how people are, you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: like at least reasonable about it. I just don't get
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the people like absolutely not. His record wasn't good. It's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: like that's stupid. Did you live here? Did you? Did you?
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Like you can't dismiss it completely because I lived here.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And the Patriots were terrible patriots born in the NFL. Right,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: they were not even they were not even an NFL team.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: And if they had like, like you get delegated, what
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: is it called regular? What is it called when you
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: get relegated? Yeah, there's the right word. Yeah, if they
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: had that, the Patriots would have been relegated. Well, yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I mean before he got things went really I mean,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they did make the Super Bowl in night, you know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: in eighty five and all that, but things went really
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: downhill after that, you know, and the Sullivans just didn't
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: have the money and the team was just and then
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: kai Am comes in and he's ridiculous, and I'll say,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on Fred's side, even though I am
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: a pro parcels guy in the hall. Fred says, you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I just can't overlook. Yeah, if this, if it didn't
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: have anything to do with the way he left, this
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be a discussion. Like anybody that says his record
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't good enough doesn't really deserve to have an opinion
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: because you can't look past anything that's on a spreadsheet.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Who he's thirty two and thirty two like that tells
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: you what he did, having no idea what he inherited.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: And you know, you know that was talked about yesterday too. Yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: he came in, took a two and fourteen team that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: didn't have two NFL players, let alone enough to compete.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: They went one and eleven to start. They were pretty
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: good after that, you know what you know. And the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: point we talked about this morning was how many of
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the members of the Hall of Fame did he bring in,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Like how many of those guys did he draft or
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: even guys you know, just uh, you know, it was
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: what Troy Brown, William McGinnis, ty law he brought in.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Adam vinitary lawyer Malloy is another Hall of Fame calibre player.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Bruce in the Hall Drew who, like the nucleus of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the First Dynasty, was brought by Bill Parcels and and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: developed by Bill Parcels and just like I would say,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Chuck Fairbanks deserves strong consideration for the same exact thing
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: in the seven seventies. Now it didn't have as much success.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: He's among the nominees. Correct, he was nominated, Yes, he
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: was one of the nine. He was, Oh, he was
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: one of them yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought the ballot.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: He never he's never on a ballot. I don't think
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I believe he was a finalist. Oh really one year? Yeah,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I think I actually wrote something for my pass, popping
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in a sight kind of just making a case for you, Chuck, mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: just making a case for him. Of I nominated you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: know what he did and uh, you know, and also
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to the element of the offensive and defensive schemes that
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: were developed here are still the ones that they kind
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of the great the great point that I believe Ernie
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: has made in the past. Oh yeah, right, I just
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: got an Ernie comp right there, I'm done, drop the mic,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I'm out, you know, And people talk about it all
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the time, you know, you know, and Ernie's talked about
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: this on the record. Again. This is why I'm not
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: this is not a Hall of Fame talk. But everything
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: they did, everything that they do comes from Yeah, seven
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: seventies patriots. Ye Are you allowed to say who was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: in the room? Oh yeah, But for the members of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the committee, yeah, that's pub I think that's public. Ernie
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: among them. No, he couldn't make it. He was stuck
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in Florida or something like that, or he couldn't get
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a flight, I think. Yeah. Usually all those cancelations that
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: they had in times mostly media guys. Yeah, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Mike Reeves, Tom currn uh, you know, Jim McBride from
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the Globe, Karen greegean from the Herald, you know, Fred
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and I, Matt Smith, Brian Moorey comes back, for it,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: um So Multims, Mark Farnella, Glenn Farley, uh, Bill Burt
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: but Sterns Sterns, Joe mro CEOs Sino. Joe's on the committee. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Joe does a good job on the twenty guys. One
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of our old stats guys who's been here forever is
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: on it. Yeah. Um, Hendry, I don't know about you, Henry.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: No one does voting open up to the fans. That'll
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: be yeah, coming at the end of the month, end
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: of the I would think that we will keeple weeks. Yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be. It'd be sooner than later because
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that's usually well in play at the draft. As I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: made the comments, are you guys usually uh surprised or
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: do you usually think they get who you think it's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be them fans? Yeah, I mean you guys nominate them,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: but I assume you have a feeling it's probably gonna
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: be this guy. Is that usually who the fans go with?
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I know I almost never get it right. I don't
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I almost never. I think I can tell you who
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I predict the fans will pick, and I get that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: right mostly, but it's not. It's not generally who I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: think it should be Paul hates the fans because I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: can pick it because I think that it's a popularity contest.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. Five five Pats five hundred
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: is the A Sticket hot line. Web radio at Patriots
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: dot com is the email address. No transactions since the
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: last time we had a show. Quiet. Things are a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: little quiet right now. Various visits popping up, various visits.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Tiger even par after four. So Andrew Booth, I think
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: was here yesterday, cornerback. That's that's a big offensive lineman. Yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Deuce has lead me to a take development. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I really like this Scarred from Boston College
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Zion John Yeah or Andrew Booth, you know, like that's
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like don't you just think that that would be like
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: the perfect for Patriots fans. They take a guard at
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: twenty one, right, so local, local guy. That's why that's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: why they get rid of shock, right, they knew because
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: they could save money and get a guy just as
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: good in the draft. I hope not the guy all right, Interesting,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: we have it on the record beforehand. I like that
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the middle linebacker from Georgia's getting a lot of yan. Yeah,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Nakobe Dean. I, um, it was funny. We talk about
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: just a tremendous college boy he is, and I look
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: at him in Lloyd and yesterday Paul was before talking
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: about watching offensive Line with TJ. Yesterday I was watching
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: the Kobe Dean and Devin Lloyd with with Mike Son Campbell,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: trying to get a feel for who I like better.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I think they're both potential options there, and I admittedly
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: like I was a little bit like Dean man it
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: seems small, but I just think with him, I've really
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: come around and I feel like both those guys would
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: be excellent. But I think with Dean, I think I'm
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: leaning a little bit towards him just because he's a player.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: But he's a football he would be he would be
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: breaking the mold. He would be never had that sideline
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: to sideline guy. But he you know when it's like
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: you watched him, small guy like Zach Thomas type of player,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you never had a small inside. Yeah, he's able to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: read through all the RPO stuff. I mean, he just
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: he he sees it, any reacts and I think his size,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know how it all fits together, but I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: think like at the end of the day, what I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: what I kind of grabbed onto is Bill being like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: can he play football? You know? And I think that's why.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: But I think both those guys are are excellent. They
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: can run, you know, It's just Lloyd's a little bit
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: bigger and maybe you know, plays off the edge a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: little bit more, so maybe he fits that mold a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: little bit more. But I think both those guys are
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: are excellent and would be good and would be good choices,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you know. But I also wonder my thing with them
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: is how realistic is the mc grown stuff? How realistic
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do they feel about him? Did they really feel when
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: they drafted him in the fourth round that this is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: a guy that we feel like will be a Day
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: two guy. We're getting a deal on him because he's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: hurt and next year he's gonna be gonna be good
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to go, because you know, I see some similarities in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: what you think those guys might be. So and the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: last part of it is just that I really feel
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: like edge is a huge need. I think edge is
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: just I think that might be the biggest need on
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: defense is somebody who can get in there and set
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the edge and be you know, move around and be
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: tough and you know, get after the quarterback and play
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: three downs. And so as much as you I really
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: am intrigued by those middle linebackers, I also feel like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I think they need an edge. I think they need
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: a you know, not just a pass rusher, but a
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: guy who can play three downs on the edge. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure at twenty one if if there's a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: perfect kind of guy that's going to kind of intrigued by,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: let's try a smaller, faster guy in the middle that
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: can go either way. I'm with you, you know, because
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you okay, so you get a good edge guy on
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the right side, what about when they go to the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: left side, So like, maybe this guy that can clean
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: up either way. I like the idea of that too, because,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you know, instead of trying to say, like, well, we
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: have these safeties that are hybrids and they could, why
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: can't we just get a linebacker who could play linebackers
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: supposed to with safety, you could play line That's what
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I would like to see them try to do. And
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I know there's no perfect there's no perfect prospects. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: think this guy, you know, both of the guys that
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Mike talked about, Lloyd Endean can be like the laundry
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: list of guys that are playing like that in the
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: league now, Yeah, the Devin Whites of the world. Yeah, that,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they're going to be
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: as good. Maybe they won't. Maybe they won't in this system.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Bill knows that can't work in
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: this system. I don't know. But if that's the case,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: change the system a little bit. Yeah, to a guy
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that can just make football plays. Yeah, it's hard not
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: to watch those kind of players and not think of
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and how, you know, how how will these players
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: impact those two games against Buffalo? And I mean, I
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: could make the starky punt comment, but you know, just
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: being able to deal with that. And that's when I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: see Dean and I'm like, he can handle Josh Allen,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: like he can watch those and know where to go,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and you know, I They're fun to watch, both those guys.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: All right, eight five five PATS five hundred web Radio
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: at Patriots dot Com is the email address. Let's turn
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to the phone see what people are thinking. Start with Todd,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's up, Todd? Hey, morning, guys. You're now
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the number one in my Nielsen ratings. Thing that I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: filling out for them. I oh, nice, listen to you
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: guys more often than not. I'm not sure if Nielsen
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: record towards us. But are you really a Nielsen family todd? Yes? Wow,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think i've ever been either man, anyone who
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: knew somebody that came across somebody that. Yeah, and I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: thought I got a lot of power. Yeah, I thought
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a lot of power. Yeah, put
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: us in there, Thank you? I did. Yeah. Sure, Wow,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you fill out a little journal. Are they still doing
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it that way? Yeah? I fill at a journal and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: then I have to see it. So I listened to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: a week of I put down all my listening and
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: my wife's listening for one week. So oh it's it's radio.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Nielsen's too, like that not television radio. And they do
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: streams too. Now wow, wow, dude, you get compensated if
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of power. I gotta have to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: stop making fun of you for a couple of shows.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Anyone earn any money, so they call it a gift
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: when they send it to you. Because I'm Canadian and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have the work views, I'm my ead expired,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: so I get this gift from them. Of about thirty
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: dollars a month. Wow, okay, pays for lunch, exactly, pays
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: for lunch, take the kid out for some fun. Wow.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I'm with Paul. I have never met or even heard
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: of anyone that knows. Yeah, somebody who was a Nielsen Penson.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It's crazy for me, neither of I and my old job.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: We that was I mean, six am you want to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: show premiered you? That was it? That was everything? What
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: what was watched? And what are the numbers? And how
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: did you keep your leading? I mean it's you're waiting
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: on and so Todd, you're kind of famous. Yeah. Well, also, guys,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: they're really important. My wife used to work for Procter
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and Gamble and they use Nielsen shopping down all the time,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: so you can become a Nielsen shopper as well. So
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you see those guys in the taking scanning and stuff
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and they're not buying anything, but they're picking up all
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: this stuff. They get paid too. Then they're Nielsen as well. Nielsen.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know how big they were until we started this,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and then my wife told me a while back. When
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I worked there, we did that too, So they're huge.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: No socks is a good reader of Nielsen ratings. Yes, like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: because when you get your Nielsen, like for example, the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Patriots and Filtered show, there's a rating how it started
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: and then throughout the half hour, and so you know
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the different demos started out yeah with a point eight
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and then right that you held your lead and then
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and then right gives you the I had your best
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: stuff in the second fifteen minutes because trash talk segment
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: did particularly let me ask let me ask you this,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So what what what else tied? Well, I'm done with
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: w EI's off day and Andy the slimey shine that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: they've got in there is a weird combination of Howard Stern,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Andy and Deuce and all the negative parts of Deuce. Wow.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I shot across the bottle or not.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know enough about Shine to
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: go and get your shine to tell you if that's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: accurate or not. Who is he? He's the one of
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the producers. I think he's the guy who took Ken's
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: spot in the morning. Okay, I don't know. He's Keith
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: producer for a while. Yeah, I thought he got promoted
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: if he moved or not. I thought he's the guy
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: with Curtis Now in the Morning with Ken Leard. He's
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: an executive producer or something now too as well. Is
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that his last name, shine Shine Chris, Chris Chris. They
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: call it shime time. Yeah, okay, so he absolutely hates
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: everybody has a snappy little name. He's more negative than
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I am at time. Does he know football at all?
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but he thinks. I've heard him
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit on Marker was the worst thing that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: we could have done. He's waiting for our quarterback to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: poop himself on the field and just prove that he's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the listening. Okay, I get I get it too. And
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it all came into yeah, he's negative to be negative,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And he's figures that Bill done. You listened
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to him his commentary. He thinks Bill can't coach, can't
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: draft Cantons like, oh my god. And he's with Andy.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: So it's like, help me. I need to go back.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: I need you guys three times a week. Yeah, I agree.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I've been trying to push Fred to that that's good.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: That'll that'll actually make Andy more positive, you know, because
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: he can't maybe is such a he can't tolerate like
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: somebody being you know, oh, Andy's such a pander. Now
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: we're trying to get him. We're going to see if
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: we can. You haven't come on the first round, right yeah?
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Put the offer out? Awesome? Yeah, I heard every he
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: panders to the audience, now unlikely. I heard him going
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: out with with Gloria and Marloney and he was arguing
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: my side of the street, and I was like, what
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: what Andy? It's like? And but it's fun because he's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: good at it, and I love hearing somebody who's good
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: at it, like, like, you can be good at it
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: all when you choose to be Yep, which side? Which
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: side of the street? Was he arguing? Though? Whenever anybody
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: else wasn't. He went to the playoffs with a rookie quarterback,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's the worst coach of
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: all time? You know that? Okay? You know, like someone
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: suggests he's the worst coach of all time, right, yeah,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: But that's what Andy does. He'll go to the extreme.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: So now you're arguing something you weren't even saying, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and then you're defending you, you're defending them mount cooks
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: that you like. I don't even remember walking up. A
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people have been calling for his return. I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: know he's some popular guy around he think yeah's it's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: He's always one of those. And like Green Bay, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: saw green Bay, like, you know, maybe we could get
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Like he's like the gun for higher yeah
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: around the league, like you need you need an outside
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: receiver with some speed, go get Brandon Cooks built a
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: career out of it. He has h Patti's an agawam.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: What's up, Patty? What's up? Guys? You okay? Yeah? Yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I can hear you about okay, all right? How about
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: no better? Sure me? Can you hear me? Now? Catcha right?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I gotta give Paul props. And I wanted to ask
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: my good questions about a draft PROSPECTU Poulli. I think
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: you kind of hit the nail on the head with
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: with your selection for who you think should be in
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the Patriots Hall of Fame this year. And and to me,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: like I hate to be a sense that are, but
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I would have a hard time boating between Benson West
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: on your phone. I think West has such a stigma
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: just because of Super Bowl forty six for dropping the
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: pass that you know, people forget how great he was.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, we all remember how tough Julian Edlman was.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Elman was. West was just as tough. I mean, West
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: took but he got killed over the middle. They got
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a game to game basis. Not only that, but like
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: he just he racked up, racked up receptions and moved
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the sticks. They weren't just like meaningless receptions. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it's crazy numbers. Like when you know, like I remember
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl we had in Atlanta, and you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: we all worked in this one big room and we
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: got into the conversation of welco vers settlement and we
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: started taking out the numbers. And yes, Edelman is outrageous
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but Welker's numbers dwarf dwarf overall overall overall,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: ye yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah. And and Edelman's gonna
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: get into Patris Hall of Fame absolutely. But they had
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: just won Super Bowl forty six. West would probably be
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: right there on the Mount Rushman probably would have in
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the MVP of forty two. Right, yeah. So, and I
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: know you brought up ed guys. Have you had a
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: chance to look at Cameron Thomas from San Diego State?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: And that's all I got said all right, thanks Patty. No,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't actually, but I will been doing write it down.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Here's one of six hundred guys. I I was just
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: looking at, you know, like because Patty talked about that
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: toughness thing. Welker even had a better year the year
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: coming off the ACL than Edelman did. Like when Fred
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: said the numbers twelve from you know, they were comparable.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I mean both of these guys to me, no brainer,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Locke Hall of Patriots, Hall of Fame, bang Like, no
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: questions asked. I have banan appeal. But Welker had eighty
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: six for eight forty eight and seven touchdowns the year
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: after you know, his towny ACL, and he missed time, Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: he missed with a different injury. He missed games that year.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: And Edelman coming off to torny ACL, was seventy four
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: for eight fifty and six touchdowns. So even like, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the toughness thing that Edelman gets probably would get ten
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: out of ten people to say, oh Edelman's tougher. Even
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: that was debatable. Yeah, what would I I wish I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: could see them standing next to each other because I
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: just the comp between size between I think Welker is
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a little bigger. Um and taller or thicker, thicker. Yeah, yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: well I would say, what did I say? I thought,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that's that's my my uh Dislike I always thought Edelman
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was bigger, a little bit more explosive. Yeah, but Welker
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was more reliable. And I think even like I think
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: that the to break a tackle and and make yards,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I think Edelman. But to make a guy miss and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: make yards was Welker. Yeah, Like it was weird how
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: that that first guy never got Welker to the ground. Ever,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I always felt like Edelman was the more talented athlete, Yes,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I would agree with, and Welker was the more talented receiver. Yeah,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I would. I would agree with that. Somebody somebody on
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the Twitter throughout some old Kent State highlight reel of
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Edelman yesterday. Oh yeah he was. He's a great athlete. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I think he's a better athlete than Welcome. I think,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: like the way Eric just put it, I would agree with. Yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: There's a great Kent State video on YouTube of Edelman
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: that they made his senior year and it's like got
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the rudy music and it's kind of a retrospective and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it's but it's jewels. It's the most unintentional comedic thing
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: you've seen. Like he's real serious and it's kind of
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: half asked the way they produced it a little bit
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: um if you if you're looking for some silly young
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Edelman state to this state. They always like, you know
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the in house, yeah team, like you know you're retiring here,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: you're leaving here is the all time, you know, like
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: what's in Like there's Edelman like real straight face serious,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: like taking the question in and used to do before
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the totally squinting you know, it's really and then the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: guy right, it's funny, it's funny. Uh, let's go to
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: uh Welliam and Philham. What's up William? What's going on
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: for it? How you doing good? Asthetic? Right? Uh start
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: put a noise in the background. Mouth do y'all okay, okay,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: um my question is uh all right. You know I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: usually when I call it the I'm always talking about
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. You know, it says I'm kind of really
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: big on it. But I really like Nakobe Dean Man.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: He is nice man. Oh man, I've watched some YouTube
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: videos going him. The guy's a beast. I mean he's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: smart telling the uh little Belichick interviews him and whatnot.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: He's he's good. He's really I would like to be
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: a mess with us. He will plays high power, you know, yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: in a different way. But I think he fits the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: modern game and he's just he's just a player, you know.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: He's one of those guys where he has he's a
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: little small shirt, but he just knows how to play football.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And I think and I think that they're attracted to those,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to those kind of guys, and it's just hard. I mean,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: have you watched much of uh, the other guy from
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the YouTube, Utahn Lloyd? Have you watched because I'm just
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: trying to get a beat on, you know, I just
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I think Lloyd's a little bit bigger, but he seems
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: a little stiffer to me too, to maybe just a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: slight I mean, they're both great, but I just was
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's my favorite between those two.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: But it's I mean, it's such a big deal. I mean,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: we can't just can't overlook it. I mean it has
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: to be six four or the no. I mean, but
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: what is he five eleven? He's pretty small. He's like
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: five eleven two twenty, Yeah, you know, real kind of stocky. Yeah,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So it's Thomas, right, right, Zach Thomas. Yeah, I agree
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: with Mike. It's more about the weight than the height.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's small, but he's so athletic and so fat.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, there's one play out there where they
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: like did like a throwback screen and he was the
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: only one who got it and he went all the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: way around all the blockers to go to go tackle
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the ball carrier for a loss. I mean, it's just
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that Pop Warner you read it, But that's what I'm
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, like a guy that can clean
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: up both sides. Yeah, yeah, and he can get there
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and he can get there, all right, thanks William Um,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: all right, quick game. Nice, perfect way to enter into lunch.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Fred and Wales whiles Um silly? Which is more likely? Game?
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: There's six of them, so we gotta keep track here,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: which is more likely. One Mac finishes the season as
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback or Barmore is a legitimate candidate
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: for Defensive Player of the Year MAC top ten quarterback. Yeah, yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think Barmore has that kind of profile that
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: he could right get fifteen plus sacks and dominate like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald right. Two. Patriots defense has the most sacks
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: in the league, or Butler leads the league in picks,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots lose to the Jets twice, or Patriots beat the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Bills twice. Wow, how things have changed. You notice how
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Mike didn't answer that. Yeah take the fifth on that one. Uh.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Folk doesn't miss a field goal under fifty all season,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: or Mac doesn't throw a pick six. I'd say that
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: more likely Folk. Yeah, Folk, Yeah, that's a good one.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: That's close though, Yeah, pick six. I don't think you
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: just throw a pick six every year, that's true of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: them's to the outer back Bucks don't make the playoffs,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: or Kansas City trades away Kelsey Yeah yeah, well likely yeah. Uh.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And finally the Dolphins owner is forced to sell or
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Watson never plays a snap for the Browns. Oh, man,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that's a very good one. I'm gonna goss. I'm gonna
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: say Watson never plays a snap for the Browns. Oh.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: You don't think they'll force Ross out? I think yea
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Snyder could be forced out from what we're hearing. He's
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: got a hundred live somehow. And then finally he says,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you briefly talked about the game of rugby a few
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: weeks ago and it was clear none of you had
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: a clue about it. Living in Wales as I do,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: where rugby is pretty much religion, I thought I would
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: give a brief basically think of the Miami Miracle, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: for eighty minutes with no helmets or pads, so it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: all laterals and open field tackling, the major difference being
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: when a tackle is made, the play is not over. However,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a player on the ground cannot handle the ball. It's
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: very similar yet entirely different to American football. Hope that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: helps I know what I do. I don't think we
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: were talking about rugby. We're just talking about the fact
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: that it exists and it's on TV, right right, Yeah,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: And you said you were telling me it was on NBC. Yeah,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: they have and I was like, wow, I didn't realize
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: it was on a major like I've seen it, like
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: on NBC Sports, like Sports Boston plus they had Rugby seven.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: They had that tournament, which I bet you if you're
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you're a rugby player, you don't like. I couldn't believe
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that one with Ebner where you're waiting and the game
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: is literally like eight minutes. Yeah, that's it, right, Like
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: you have to play a whole game, and it's just
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that right minutes. I don't right back in tell us
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: how long it actually was. What you mean it was
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: like it was over like within like like it seems
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so brief. It was like a sporting event. Can't be
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: that short Like that doesn't decide anything, you could You're
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: just getting warmed up by the time. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: of those acronyms that you use, you know, yah, h
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: H P power Is it RBI or RBIs? I think
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: it's RBIs. But if you're going strictly grammar, it would
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: be rb RBI. It's runs batted in, right. But I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: think if you use the right acronyms. Another one I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: hear often misused attorney generals, Oh right, right, attorneys general,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, passers by passers pass mothers in law. Yeah,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: they're not mother in laws. Unchartered, that's a big one.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: That's yeah. Wow, you guys are blowing my mind. You're
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: pulling these out left and right now. Listen, we've had
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of off season shows, not our first. Fred
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and I have been doing nonsense for more than two decades, right, yeah,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: so we should have a show people can call in
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: with their pet p with grit, with grammar, yeah, basically
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: literally the people well how people use little like the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: young kids use literally a lot now and they don't
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: know what it means. Literally they use it all the time, right,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: basically it's literally totally totally Well. I think that like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: there's a difference between poor grammar, like people use an
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: irony wrong right, as opposed to like the mispronouncing words. Yeah,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: we got that's not a word. Yeah, it's not a word.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: It's funny like being on the show. People have called it,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: you know, have said things in the past, like the
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Stick with You where like you know, you say you
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: know a lot or and it gets in your head
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: and you think about it and try not to and um,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: I was listening to my wife on an A zoom
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: call or an interview and you know, it's taking it
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: in and and and she's like, so, how did I do?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like you can, I can? I I'm like
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: can I And like sometimes people say things to me
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: on the show that I you know, say you know,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: but I do. I'm gonna do because it's a lot,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: it's right, she did? Yeah, right, that's right, right, all right?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Or what about this is a recent one, like maybe
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: the last four years? Yeah, no, oh, I have that. Yeah.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Going back to the Welker discussion, he was famous for that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: You got me on that one. I think I said yeah, no, yeah,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: which is yeah, Welcer used to run the game, and
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: it was yeah, no, I don't know, right, give me all.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: He would start off almost every answer with that. You'd
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: be like, which I see that one though, is yes,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I understand the question, and the answer is no, yeah, no, yeah,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have It is a crutch. It's definitely a crutch.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have a huge problem with it, but it's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: definitely I have another one. Those who begin sentences with
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: so so so has a specific meaning, right, not for
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the beginning of every sentence, right, I agree, Fred, What
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: are we going to do in the first round of
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the draft? Which is not show going to be like
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and then you would answer so, so you're gonna have
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: it like in how do we need that? Incorrect? Right?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: And that's uh, that's that's tech talk. Yep, that's I'm
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: over your head. So I'm gonna try to boil it down.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna Dane, I thought you were. I thought
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: you were getting into corporate speak. That's like the pivot, efforting, efforting.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna effort that. You could do a lot of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: corporate speak too, but I won't. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: gonna pivot. That the reason they departed others in the building.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah that what what what bucket does that fall in? Oh? Silos,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: they're just silos we're talking about today. Or then you know,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: like if you're talking about like an idea in business
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: and you really want to be folksy, well that dog
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: won't hunt. Okay, put your cowboy hat on that dogs
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: ain't gonna hunt. Let's uh, let's go. Let's let's table that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: We'll get back to that one table, circle back'll circle
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: back in a smaller, smaller group for that one off.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: We'll go offline with that. Um, are you gonna share
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: the deck after the meeting with the deck? You're gonna
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: get decked if you use that language again. Anyway. Back
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: to your emails and phone calls Dan and Manchester for Rubs,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: he says, I love the idea of getting old teammates
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: back together Mack and MITCHI would be a lot of
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: fun and hopefully he can be what early two Thousandon
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Branch was to Brady. But I was very excited about
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: about the big head possibly coming back for a show.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Someone needs to put Paul in his place every now
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: and then like he used to, and much rather Andy
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: silly arguments than Paul constantly condescending callers and emailers. I
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: love Paul, but holy hell, dude, calm down. I constantly
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: just turn off the show when Paul gets annoyed, because
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: annoyed Paul is incredibly annoying. Replace Eric with Andy and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: this show would be perfect. Eric gets some shrapnel. Tuesday
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: was an example Parker versus Adams games played. Davante Adams
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: has never played less than uh than double digit games. Ever,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: lists off the games for both players and neither has
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: played less than double digits. True, So at this point,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Paul pulls a friend and switches to games started a
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: little bit. That's a little bit true. I had to
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: take my medicine and we talked about it that day.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: You have to take my medicine anyway. Stevenson's teammate, fullback
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Hall, is a fun undrafted free agent option. Yeah,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: for a team that's not going to have a full
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: back right out. That's what That's what they told. I mean,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean to like disappoint people, but
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: if you don't want me to get your noise, don't
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: annoy me. No. But the Parker thing, Yeah, that we
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: talked about that, dude, if you look at it, I
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: still think it's not close. Unlike the way that that
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: the guy who wrote in but the duel, the DeVante
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Parker also didn't miss double more than double digits. You know,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: you always always played double digit games too, It's always
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: like eleven. But whatever, let's get to the Ace ticket
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: up line Aaron's in Flint, Michigan. What's up, Aaron? Hey, guys,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: how's it going? Um? Deer and deers. I don't like
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: when people deers. Yeah, yeah, get get some beers and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: drink them. Yeah. Last time I calling in, I annoyed Paul.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: He beat me up. So I think I'm just gonna
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: play a game. But Dave, no, I apologize because I
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: was just about to compliment you on. That's a good
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: example of the pronunciation game. Yes, a lot, because I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: do know a lot of people that call them beers beers.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: It's get some beer, Yeah, you got some said deer,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: deer sainteers, deer beer. Reindeersy dear. We won't let root
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: up playing any reindeer games, right, So what do you got, Aaron?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I love games, all right? So this is this is
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: this guy, like, what what would you rather see? Jay
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Low all right, son of Tom Brady's. I think we've
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: been doing a lot of running back. So this how
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: I came up with this game with the whole running
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: back thing, running Bactus is Brady running it back in
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight a stead of getting hurt after
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: the two thousand and seventh season, Oh absolutely, or seeing
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: what Josh McDaniels would have done in twenty thirteen with
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: the Gron and Hernandezz combination, because ten eleven, twelve he
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. Then thirteen he come back, and I think
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: the Brady one thirteen. Yeah, I don't think there was
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: much difference there with thirteen. But the eight team was
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: absolutely loaded. Ye loaded. I think that team could have
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: made a run um to win at all. Could we
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: compare the seven defense of the O eight defense, because
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: it seemed like guys are old and oh seven, they're
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: getting older in a way. They had trouble stopping teams
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: they didn't matter. Yeah, it would have just I mean
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: they were just like matter. They were eleven and five
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: with Matt Castle, right, you know what were the changes?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: So Asante left Junior say out like retired, right he was?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: He came back at the end. I want to say,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Delta Neil, Delta O'Neil, they have him. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: was oh eight, I think oh eight was Delta O'Neill.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: But I can look it up. That's look that up.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: It's easy to just look at Moss, Welker and and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: and Gaffney, as as the trio. Oh, the team was loaded.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: There was like Fred said, they won eleven games with
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: a guy who never played right right. That was a
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: big deal on why we missed the playoffs because it
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: was five conference games and these are games you know,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: within the division and stuff, you know cooked them up
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I know, yep. Let me see that
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: when you're done, Scale, I want to look at it
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: all right, Thanks Aaron, good game, good game. Let's go
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: to Brad in the Eastern Shore. What's up Brad? How
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: you doing? Hey, good afternoon, guys, good Glad. All is
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: well up in the north Land. Um, just a real
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: subtle behind the scenes Fred, I'm not sure you caught it,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: but deuston, Eric, that was awesome with the for every
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: long program you have a short program that was Paul, Yeah,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Um. Secondly, m Raymond Claiborne may have gotten
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: into the Patriots Hall of Fame because certain at that
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: point fifty three year old men may have voted well
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: over two hundred times. UM, so that is a thing quarterback. Wow.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: But I just felt when he made the final, you know,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: of my era and Paul and Fred Zia other than
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Mike Canes, I thought Raymond Claiborne could not be touched. Yeah,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I would agree with that. You know, ty laws passed him,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I would agree with you on that when
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: those two, when those two combined, I mean talk about
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: two shutdown corners. If we had had a quarterback that
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: actually to throw the ball in the seventies, I think
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: that would have been a title contending defense. Brad's my
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: kind of Patriots fan. Yeah, I mean, I don't fall
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: into I've talked to people who were there then and
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: were there when you know, Parcels came in and uh, Carol,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: and they said that those that seventy six and seventy
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: eight teams were so talented, so talented, you know, and
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: obviously we know about the Fantom, the roughing passer with
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Ray Hamilton, and that year they would have probably won
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That's that's one of those games that
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: they I mean, if they win that game, now you know,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: now you're one game away from the Super Bowl. I mean,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: you could certainly make an argument that the Raiders were
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: the best team, right. You know, with the Patriot, you
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: beat him in the regular season, you beat him in
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: the regular season, you beat him in the playoffs. Who's
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: better than you right. That was seventy seven absolutely who
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl night year the Raiders draft game
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: for you guys, so you have you have you have
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: to make a choice. If you take a cornerback in
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: the first round, you have to take a wide receiver
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: not until the fourth round, okay, or linebacker in the
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: first round cornerback in the fourth round. Which would you
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: rather do? I think I'm finding either way. I just
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: the individual not knowing the individual players cloud that for me.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: But I'm okay with waiting for the fourth round to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: get a receiver. Um, if they take a really good cornerback,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: but is Dean better than the cornerback, then I want
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: the linebacker, right Yeah, I think that's that's where you're comparing.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: You know, you know from Florida that that he's a
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: real popular corner long fits the profile. I think corners
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: a need more than off the ball linebacker. I would
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: pick the corner them and the wide I agree. I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: agree with dude. I think they have positioned themselves. They
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: are hoping that there is a run on wide receivers
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: from like thirteen to nineteen in that range, and that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: allows you know McDuffie, Elam or you know, even I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: like I like the Michigan safety. I think he's tax
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Hill going to be as good at cornerback as he
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: will a safety. Um. But I just see them kind
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: of almost painting themselves into the little corner, which is
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: what I hate, because as soon as we all say
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: they're gonna take a quarterback, Bill's gonna take a tight
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: end and just absolutely plumb access. Wow, that would be
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: one of the rare pos start that I would say,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: that's bad, that's bally bad because I just watched some
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: of the tight ends. There's a lot of solid third
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: and fourth round picks there. To Eric's huge harump, he
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: will trade down to the Yeah, I've kind of accepted
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: that that's a distinct possibility. So I don't know if
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I'll harump as much this year. But I still want
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: them to make the pick. I believe me. With the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: English lesson we just had for the last fifteen minutes,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: you as a group really need to find a high
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: school and convince the high school let you go and
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: teach night great English for one day. Yeah all right,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: well thanks, thanks. I took that. That was quite a
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: shot right there, right, Like what I'm not capable of
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: teaching an English class. No, I think he wants I
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: think he's making fun of us, like we need to
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: convince someone to allow us to teach an English class
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: for one day. I didn't take that. I didn't take
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: it like celebrity morons teaching. Go in there and tell
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: him to stop saying literally, yeah, okay, yeah bad. I
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: think all right, yeah, And you guys all took it
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: as a positive. I'm going to take it as a positive.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: What was Andy going to teach when he was in
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: high school? English? I think it was English? Was it English? Oh? Man?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I don't ironically, but that sounds funny. Those kids dodged
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: a bullet hunt and he didn't worked out at a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: high school student that that's funny. That's yea. I will
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: leave right now. Then he took his shirt off and
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: started flexing. I don't know what. Yes, rivers have ties
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: you more, hugest head. I do want to because I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: have thought about being a teacher a lot, and I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: there was a time that I was heading that way
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: and U I don't know the same thing. I don't
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: know if I have the temperament to be like when
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I coached the kids, especially when I coached in high school,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Like can you imagine my snark with high school kids? Um,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: but you can say things on a baseball field or
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: a football field that you can't say in a classroom, right, Yeah,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Like I think I would be one of those, like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: you know the old ESPN commercials with a young kid
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: is hosting Sports Center and then he says like Jimmy
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Key sucks and all of a sudden is like they
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: put the color bros. Like he came out too early.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: He was just he just wasn't ready. That'd be me
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: after like the first week. I wouldn't make it Like
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: you know, mister Poolo's class would be taught by Mike
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: do So today it's for the rest of the year.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, Lane has worked in schools her whole career
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: and just the they're all the same, the politics, the
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff that go on with teachers and administrations,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: and each new school it's the it's like the same show.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: It's just someone new playing the same part. It's uh,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, frustrating. I also feel like that the kids
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: nowadays like aren't respectful to the teacher anymore. Like there
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: was like we used to be like scared to death
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: to like even mouth off or do anything. Even the
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: teachers that we hated got all of our respect. Like
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: if they said to do something, I did it. Now
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like they just like they'll like flip you
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: off in class and like you can't do anything about
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: it because they know, Yeah, they know you end up
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: losing your job. Yeah, especially private schools where they the
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: parents are you know, feel like we're paying this money
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: and we should have some say in it. And it's hard. Yeah,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: back to the phones, Brian's in Indiana, to the Brian
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I could just see past week. He taught Brian top Absolutely,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: I would beat them down worse than you beat down. Dude.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I've been hearing about that, Like nah, I mean dudes,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: because just a back and forth. It wasn't like now
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: what I heard. I was scarred emotional. Yeah, he had
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: him in the corner. He's actually underneath the console right now, Brian, No,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: he ain't. Yeah. That was the day of the first
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: first round of the NCAA tournament and I was about
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: eleven middle of lights deep and Mike is calling me.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't know just what yelling at me.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: It was like listen, Mike, you know I've had it.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I've had some beers. I don't have time for this.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: That first day when you take off a tournament. It's
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: so funny how they talk about you. That's right, and
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: it's not like Morale Jason my name out of her mouth.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I know. I got a couple of things. One of
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: them I want to touch on was the Hall of
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Fame voting. And I agree with y'all about the Welker.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: I always get like it's funny because we're Bray hand bill.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I can kick one and do it the or. But
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: with Welker and Everman, I never felt the need to
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: do that. I've always felt like they were both great
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: players for the team and personally me I understand. I
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: remember the day after that Super Bowl lost, everybody nationally
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: was he got two hands. I've always felt like that
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: was a horrible pass. That was one of Tom Brady's weaknesses.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: If you asked me, it was his range and throwing deep.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: He always had the arm to do it, but he
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: was never very accurate deep and even some of his
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: best throws or best plays if you think about the history,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: see like I'm a Brady bow bow. But at the
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: same time, I could criticize the guy. He got this
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: bad habit of me to me of throwing to five
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: foot nine guys like they were six foot four, and
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: then he would throw the ground egg his shoe strings
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: and I never I didn't know if it was on
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: purpose is I never understood why he did that, but
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  Speaker 1: I always thought that was a horrible pass. Back of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: pass we probably win that Super Bowl. Um, it was
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: one more thing. Oh, the grammar. I'm not a grammar nazi,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: but it's a thing with sports, especially. Everybody says resiliency
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: like it's a four syllable word. The word is resilience,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: three syllables. Man, everybody, I mean, some of the most
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: well read people. I've heard Eric Dower, I heard Mike
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Reaess do it. I'm like man, and and like I said,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not a grammar nazi. That kind of stuff usually
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: don't bother me. But everybody tool man says resilience. That's
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: a good one. But I always thought that two different.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Believe that two words. Okay, well that resilience and resilience
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: is definitely definitely, But what's the different between resilience and resiliency.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there is one. I think he's resilient
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the point. It's one of the other
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  Speaker 1: Resilience is the the capacity to recover quickly from difficulties, toughness. Yeah. Um,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: let's see if efforting addiction noun and resiliency and adjective
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: version of that. Because I looked at us, I think
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: he might be right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, the noun
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: is resiliency. The noun is resiliency. Yeah. Oh yeah, uh nothing, Yeah,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're like, there is such a word resiliency. Yeah. Well,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: it says under resilience, noun resiliency, but it has the
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: it has the definition listed there. But to me, resilience,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: that sounds like a noun to me too. Uh and
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: and and Brian is right because it says um, resilience
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: and resiliency are different forms of the same word. The
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: nouns refer to the ability to recover quickly from illness
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: or misfortune. But in today's English, resilience is far more
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: common than resiliency. Yeah, especially outside the US and Canada.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: And you've heard me say resiliency, Brian, because many times
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: I tend to like I would always say he should
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: he showed resilience, I've heard, right, I mean in sports.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: That's a comment, and yeah, I think you're right, Brian
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Paul is saying what you're saying. Uh. Yeah, I would
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: have to think back and say, Okay, well they talking
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: about recovering from injuries or what they talking about, like
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: a team fighting through uh you know, like downtimes, say
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: just not playing. Well, maybe maybe they were using resiliency
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: for one and resilience, but I never even heard anybody
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: used resilience. It's always resiliency. Yeah. All I know now
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: is I'm completely confused, and I'm going to avoid that word.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: I think Brian's right. I've always thought of them as
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: two different words, but they're really the same word. And
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: there's no need to add a syllable to him where
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: you educated me, Paul, because I didn't know it was
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: good thought it was one. I didn't had no ideas
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: to different words. Well, I think, but I think you're right.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: It says that the more common is just resilience. Yeah,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. I usually like to use resilience.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: But I think Brian's point is accurate that on TV
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: you hear them say resiliency, yeah more frequently. Yeah, yep,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: all right, Hey Brian, thank you. It's a good call.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: All right, mommar talk, Yeah, what are your thoughts on?
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  Speaker 1: Ain't a word. I don't like it. I mean, it's
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: it's fine. I don't like. Oh that shows somebody's uneducated
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: when they use it. But it's not a word. I
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: mean in print. Oh, it shouldn't be used the print.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: The only time you should use it in print is
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: in a quote. And yeah, I would like working here.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: I work for the team. I almost always change it
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: to make the guy who the player silence. Yeah, you
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: know smarter, right I do. I mean unless it's really
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: for a fact, like you know, I ain't knowing that. Yeah,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: hit him where they ain't. That dog ain't gonna hunt, right,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: you know, hit him where they ain't. It's the old
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: baseball cliche, like you wouldn't say, hit him where they
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: they're where they aren't or they're not. I go to
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: scout with a lot of that stuff because I know
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: he knows grammar better than I do, especially with like quotes,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: because you know, like with Barmore, you get you know
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, like hed
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: some people will transfer every phrase that every player. I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: always wanting to make sure it's okay that I don't. Yeah,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: you can. The only time you'd ever have to worry
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: in quote, especially sports, we're not talking about real life,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: like we're not the future or the free world is
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: not at stake with our with our right thing. But
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: if if it's something controversial out of the locker room
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: and it happens, I'm gonna quote the guy verbatim. I'm
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: not going to give him any opportunities to say I
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: didn't say that, right, that's that's a good but you know,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: not the thumb you know you you know so so Christian,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: how did you feel about you know, the game? You know,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: I thought we got in a groove. You know what
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like I could take that, you know what
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I'm not. I'm not changing what he meant.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not changing what his thought process was and not
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: adding or subtracting anything. Correct, right, Neil and new Brunswick.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I've been keeping an eye on the endless number of
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: mock drafts and some very common names you see predicted
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: to the Patriots are Nakobe Dean, Devin Lloyd, Trent McDuffie,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: and Andrew Booth. Do we know anything about these players
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: and if we'd be happy if one of them is
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: picked by the Patriots in three weeks. I think we'd
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: like any of them. I like all of them. I
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: like all of them. I'd take either one of those linebackers.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: I would be happy with Booth. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: you know Booth, he's aggressive. I think he's more of
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: a zone corner. He's not. I mean, look at elam
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: elam fits the part of what Jacy Jackson. You know
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: man Long can play. Uh, you know, has the size
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: to match up. I think, you know, And I really
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: like McDuffie too, But I think McDuffie and Booth are
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: both a little bit more of a projection. They're not
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: pure man coverage. You know, you needing to get a
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: man corner. I think that late you're you're you're lucky
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: to get elam Um. The guys above him with like Stingley,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: you know, those are those are prototypical guys. So I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: do think there are some questions like like and Paul
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: kind of inferred with with bootha McDuffie. But I think
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: they're both aggressive and um and make plays on the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: ball and so. But but I think all those guys
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: fit and and and could potentially help. The other one
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: that is common is Mike's guy, Jamison Williams. Mike hate
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm painted into the corner. Can I just tell you
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: that I am rooting for nothing in this draft other
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: than Jamison Williams because the Hall of Fame. I'm on
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: mount Wait. I guess I'm in like Mountain Ditch. I'm
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: in Ditch Williams. I'm not defending him. I'm looking up
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: and out. Also, this offseason has been exciting, but not
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: for us. Feel free to transition into interesting offseason topics
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: like impressions, movies, candy bars and sitcoms, or how Fred
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: has a feel for the WORDLD league. Okay, those things
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: happen organically. There are an impression off this year and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: the food off. We don't have a challenge that that's Wroe.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that, the impossible Burger challenge. Remember we
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: brought that up during the season. Oh yeah, we're gonna
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: try to see if we could see. Yeah, I would
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: take part um. I just want to correct something. When
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: I said that I'd be happy with any of them
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: other than Booth, I was thinking of Booth was a
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: different player, and I don't know who I was confusing
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: him with, but I was thinking of Booth as a
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: guard and not the corner, So I just like, I
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: just wanted to correct that. I looked. That's why I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: looked at you, and because I thought it would be obvious,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: because I don't want an offensive lineman. But yeah, I
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: was confusing him with someone else. So I don't know
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: a ton about Booth obviously, because I confused him with
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: a guard. You're gonna love him. I'm gonna love I'm
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: gonna love what I see one of the thirty visits.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: But I think Penny was the guy. I might have
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: been thinking of the big tackles, but he's gonna yeah
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: from very very nasty nor what Dakota state? Maybe no
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: where was Spencer with Brown from the Bills, Northern Illinois,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Northern Iowa, Northern Iowa, Northern Iowa. Yeah, there's a couple.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: There's a couples from northern Iowa this year. But yeah,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: he's a bit you don't like him. He's a big, big,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: big Penning, Northern Iowa. I guess, yeah, I think for something,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: and that's the guy. Isn't he here? Well coming Penning?
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: I thought they had him scheduled for a visit. Yeah,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: and that's why I was thinking of that guy for
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: some reason. And I don't know why. It was a
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: lot of names, but he was. I just wanted to
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: correct myself there. One of those, one of those. He
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl, given everybody extra business throwing
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: guys to the ground. Yeah, I'll take a tackle at
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: twenty one. I don't want to go. I don't want
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: to like a strict guard. If the guy is a tackle, Yeah,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: and he can, you know, work his way in behind
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: Brown and win for a year and then be the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: starter next times when one or both of those guys
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: are no longer here. I think, Penny, I'm fine, what
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: could be there? I see him all over the place.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: Raymond Zion be an inside guy, but yeah, I mean
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: the Bernie Raymond that he could play tackle, he could
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: in the pinch. I think he's probably more of a
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: an interior guy though. Zion. Yeah, that's what they said.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Sam writes in from Toronto. With the two thoy nineteen
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: draft receiver class getting so much attention lately, my question
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: for the esteem panel is if he could go back
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: and change the pick from Nikkiel to another who would
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: it be. I know Mike will probably say Hunter Renfro,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: were curious for the others, I'll list the standouts here
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: for before you listen, I'll say Terry McLaurin. I think
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: he's in that draft, right, Yeah, Deebo, Samuel, A. J. Brown,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, Dante Johnson or Hunter Renfro. And
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: we know Fred's pick, right, Deebo Samuel Yeah, I would
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: take Debo too, but I think of him as being
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: like kind of different. I loved AJ Brown. I think
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: he was mine. No problem with that one. Yeah, he
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: was a pattern developing here receivers who can play Harry
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: uh Stephen writes in in South Carolina. He has a
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Grammar pet peeve. The word volunteerism baffles me. I heard
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: a coworkers say I'm really into volunteerism. Wouldn't it just
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: be I'm really into volunteering? We better ask that's true?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: You know what? I think it is? Corporate speak? Yeah,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: I do. I think he's right. I think he's right.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: There's there's a there's a phrase that I've always sort
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: of wondered about. You know, you know, I'm sure Eric
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: can get me the definitive word on this. Do you
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: know when you say he's a friend of mine? Oh, yeah,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I know where you're going here. Yeah, if you say
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: he's a friend of Eric, yes, isn't that proper? Isn't
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: a friend of Eric's redundant? Yes? If he belongs to Eric,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: that's what the of means. It's possessive. So why do
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: we involve Eric's ad one? Like you don't you know?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Friend Eric's friend would be proper. But if you say
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: he's a friend of Eric, that's also proper. Now yes,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: but a lot of people people would say Eric right now,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know that I'm right. I don't
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: know that I'm right about that one, So I'm not
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: being Also, send Eric right, that's how I That's how
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: I would write it, grammar, deep diving, ap parlo English.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: I know very specific. I know you just got on
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: a blog and just wrote on your own. Some of
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: us had to go to college and learn how to
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: do it. Perfect elitism not very good one. But Chris
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: with a TI writes in gigantic pet peeve for people
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: who use right at the end of a comment. Right, yeah, yeah,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: and parcel should be in embarrassing that he isn't in
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: my opinion, Patriots were in football Siberia prior to his arrival.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Although short, you can't ignore his impact of the absolute
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: home runs he hit in the draft, which helped build
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: the foundation of the early two thousands dynasty. How do
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: you think an average NFL fan associates Bill Parcel's second
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: most everybody he's a Giant's Yeah, but what would you say,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: would if you ask a fan him after I mean
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Patriots Cowboys? I mean he took the two championships in
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: a row. I would consider Parcel as a Patriots coach
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: after the Jets after Jean Yeah, okay, yeah, but yeah,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I get he bounced around. Sure he was
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: a hired guns. Definitely, definitely a hired gun. That's why,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Like when Fred says no, because of how he left
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: and all that, I think that's a valid reason to
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: say no. I pushed back on the people to say
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: he was thirty two and thirty two right, like as
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: if that he was turning around a dynasty, you know,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: turn around, Like his five is the same, you know,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: isn't as good as what Pete Carroll did? Like, who
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: do you think was better? This is kind of like
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: the games played for DeVante Parker DeVante Adams, Big V,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Little V, which one guy plays and dominates, the other
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: guy sits and you know, only dominates Stefan Gilmour. Evidently
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: you know there's no comparison. Audrey from New Hampshire writes in,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: I was desperate for content last week, and so I
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: listened to Andy's off Day podcast for the first time. Man,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: but I'm writing because I believe he was promoting his
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: own Draft Night show. So unless he cancels that plan,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: you're not getting it. Well, he's definitely going to have
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: to do something on Draft Night, but we were figuring
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: he'd be here to do it, which is typically the
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: way they do it. Yeah, we don't need Andy. We're fine.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: Eric is having a Vietnam flashback. Let's see. Um. I
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: don't worry. We'll be in the foxhole with you, Eric,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: let's see. Nick writes in he says two things. One,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: if anyone can make Tim Tebow a tight end, it's
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Bill ha ha. I don't know what that means. He
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: tried to make him a fullback, and that we can't
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: afford to lose Myers. He may not be the most athletic,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: but he is reliable and consistent. I consider him like
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: a Danny A. Mendola wasn't always making insane plays, but
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: he's there when we need him. Also, as an Amazon driver,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: I will personally go pick up our next star receiver
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: and deliver him. You get prime, Can you get him
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: here in like two days or when you're already at
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: my house to the Yeah, I don't know Amdolah Myers comparison. Well,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: he's not talking about stylists. The role when it comes
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: in in a key party, always reliable. I think that's Myers. Okay.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: I think everybody just wants to I mean the infatuation
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: with a slot no offense. We've talked about this a
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: lot off the year. Like to me, I just if
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: if the guy that they get is a slot receiver
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: and he happens to be dynamic and explosive, I'm all
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: for it, like all for it. I want a guy
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: that can make big plays. If he is a slot guy, great,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: I don't need a guy to make a bunch of
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: catches that a three yeard like. I just I would
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: like to have the offense sort of evolve, loose change. Yeah,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: but again, you want to give me Welcoer and Edelman
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: in their prime. I'll take that, Yes, I will take that.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: I remember when Welcome is here, you call them loose change.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Now you got him number one on your bat. I
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: also said that earlier in the show. Thanks for listening.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: I used to say that he's a product of Moss.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: I think it creates a lot of space for him.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: But I do think there's a little bit of nuance
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: between a slot receiver and a guy who can play inside.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I think like slot receiver, you kind of
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: get pigeonholed as you know what WELC or what Welcore
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: system was. But I think Edelman was kind of a
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: guy that can play inside and could do a couple
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: of little things. I don't see him as a pure,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: pure slot receiver. I think he's purely a slot receiver.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: He could not compete on the outside consistently. He couldn't
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: he couldn't outjump cornerbacks on the outside and win outside
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: the numbers. Maybe he's not an outside receiver, but I
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: think he's not a band I don't think he was
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: a pure slot I do, and I also think the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: whole slot thing was Brady. That's why I'm not infatuated
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: with getting one. I don't have any idea what Mac
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Jones would do with Julian Edelman right now. Yeah, I
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if that would be the best thing for him.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Lyndon from New Hampshire. Being a sports fan and a
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: car guy, this one drives me nuts. As far as grammar,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: an engine clicking or making a similar noise typically indicates
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: there's an issue like low oil pressure, a loose component,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: or a leak. I believe the correct idiom is firing
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: all on all cylinders. Hitting on all cylinders also works.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: So when somebody says, oh, they're really clicking, he hates
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: that because if it's if it's a car reference, that's
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: a bad thing. Ah. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, I can see
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: where he's going with that. I was going with your engine,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: which yeah, I was gonnce engine, but I saw that
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: he overpronounced it too. Did you notice like you don't
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: like it? They don't like it when I say engine
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: because it's incorrect. But would how would you say don't
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: let us engine and engine engine? But I'm not saying
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: you're wrong, you know, it's like how thanks? But but yeah,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: had the date go? It was good. We really clicked. Yeah, okay, yeah,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: but evidently all means you didn't. But maybe it's like
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: more of a puzzle piece. It clicks like they fit.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: But maybe that's what it's a it's not a car reference,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: but it also opens up another cannon worms for me.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: When you have car problem and you're trying to verbalize
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: what the problem is. There's it's making a noise, you know,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: like the fan belt or the rotors. You know, there's
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: different things in the car that go wrong, and then
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: you're trying to google accurately what the problem it's going
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: it's you know what that means that my biological clock
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: is ticked in like this, Yeah, I've been It's going
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: back to your thing about the friend thing, because I've
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: thought about this before too, because like a friend of mine,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: I don't say he's a friend of me like you
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: would say, like you said he's a friend of Eric, right,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he's a friend of me. I'd say
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: he's a friend of mine, possessive. So the friend of
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Eric's kind of makes sense because it's it's it's but
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: what you're saying a friend of mine. But if that's right,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: so you would have to say a friend of me,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. No, I don't know. A friend of mine.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: I think is fine. But I think the possessive is
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: the of But you say that implies possession, but mine
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: is possessive too, You see what I'm saying. Yeah, So,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think it's wrong either. I
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: don't think it's wrong either way. If you want to
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: just cut a shot, you can say he's my friend.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: But that's the other thing is I think that a
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people like to say it the long way
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: because it makes it sound like it's more proper, when
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: most English people will tell you succinctness, the shorter, the
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: better brevity, right right, And you know there's a million
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: exist um. It drives me. You know, I have a
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: million of him in my head. Now. You watch a
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: baseball game and the announces in fairness, they have to
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: talk more than most play by play guys, and he
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: will throw him out. No, he just threw him out.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. It's not in the future. Right,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Like there was a groundball to short, he threw it
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: to first. He's not and he will go down swinging. No,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: he already struck out right, you listen to baseball games.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: In every single Syracuse produced robot robot, we'll say it
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: the same way in the future tense. I have that
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: same pet peeve for newscasts, like if there's a car
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: accident on ninety five in the morning on the six
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: o'clock news, a car rolls over on ninety five. No,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: it's not in the process of continuing to roll over,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: rolled over past tense happened. It's more action if it's
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: in the present tense. But it's it's but it's inaccurate,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I know. But I hate that. I hate that. But
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: then they put it in the future tense in baseball.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, listen to it, you'll never be able
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: to roll over. Right. You don't hear someone say that,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: but it will. It'll stick with you and you'll hear
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: it every time now because I'll put that, just put
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: that bug in your ear. Baseball guys, and they always say,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's always off the glove of the
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: second basement. It's never off the second basement's glove. Like,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know why you have to say it like that, right,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about before. That leads me to
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: in La California. It's the four or five, the five,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: the ten. Yeah, it's not the four ninety five here
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: or then that sounds so weird, like just take the
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: one twenty eight right, yeah right, but we don't do
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: the like you do. Yeah, the the or the freeway
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: lane dropped the lane dropped the freeway once and they're like,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: where are you from? Like just by some freeway, isn't there?
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: Is there a pop song right now where they talk
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: about riding up the four or five or something? Well, yeah,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: it's the five to ten that maybe we can remember
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: that from being lay every everything was the I like
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: that song, but no one doesn't. I don't take one spot.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right, it's the biggest hip, your hip, you
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: got the music, got the hips, Spin writes in Again,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: he says, a pronunciate pronunciation off is in the planning stage.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't, did you hear me? You're gonna
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: need a judge. Pronunciation is in the planning stages because
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need to judge the world. You gotta have
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: a final because there's no like we're still trying to
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: figure No, it's what we say, it is, dude, it's
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: what we say it is. We need like a like
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: a linguist, you know, we need like like somebody with
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: a bow tie, some glasses, preferably somebody. We have a
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: lot of master debaters. Alright, alright, what that's my that's
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: my side of the street. It's actually Andy st Justin
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: writes in My question is, uh, if we bring back
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: the throwback uniforms this year occasionally and have a bad year,
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: does that taint the throwback uniforms? No? No, nope, it's
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: still the best at some people's eyes. I'm sure Will Well, Oh,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: he's right, because in two thousand and two they were
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: all blue a couple times and lost, and that's why
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: everybody hates all blue. That's right, he's not. I mean,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: I know exactly where the question comes. I remember they
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: wore those pewter or I think the silver the silver,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: and it was because they look like dirty again that
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: they didn't wear him. But it didn't like them. I
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: like the lost too, they lost. I don't recall that.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I think they did. Remember, Oh, Green Bay was a
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: monochrome game, wasn't it all that four game losing streak?
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: And O two had a couple of all blue games.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: Green Bay was definitely one of them. I think Denver
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: might have been two blue Oh well done due No,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: but the silver one came. I don't think, I don't.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: I can't remember an important loss in the silver universe.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: It wasn't important. I remember it remember in the silver
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: like against Dallas Beati. I didn't like the silver though,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: I don't awful exactly. I think I think that's why
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: they don't wear them, because they look bad, sucked. I'd
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: be less triggered by the red, and probably the helmet
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: would be more of of the red looks good, just
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: looks good. Justin also says I like the pat Patriot logo.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm with Fred. I also like the flying elvis
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: on a white helmet with the stripes down the middle.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Good day, good good, good day. So I think we
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: should start all over again. New logo, new logo, new marks.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: Really well, so what the revs did right yet? Really
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: work well for them? Really? Or they haven't been playing well?
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: But no, But I'm saying, like I love you think
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: the American flag logo that this guy everything he doesn't
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: like any change? Do you think that logo could tell
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: me that's a good looking logo? Come on? Um, I
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: think it's a good logo except for the stripe down
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: the middle. Do you think that it's Yeah, I don't.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: It looks like Ghostbust talks about that. Yeah, but I
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: would have no problems. I would have no problem without
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: that stripe. I really would boring. But do you think
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: that the REVS fans are UM arms while blaming the
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: uniforms because they are off to a bad stop. Yeah,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: and they're all blue? Well they have they have many kids, right,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: they have many The primary one is all blue, is it? Yeah?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? You watch all the games on television?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: I see all white ones? Are you are you? Are
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: you tuning out? No? I watch every game? Oh so
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: what has been the problem? Um, it's just I just
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: think they're off to a bad start. That one Weather
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: game was terrible. Uh, you know, Bow hasn't been in
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: UM books. Just got back that last Yeah, that last
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: that last game. Don't need to make any moves of
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: the deadline. Got some new guys. They did have some injuries.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Turner hasn't been playing. He's going to awesome and he out.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: He's out for good. I thought he was out. No,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Well he's gonna be out in July. Yeah, because they
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: you know, transferred, they transferred the out. He's hurt now, um,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: so he could thought he was out. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: so this and it just you know, I think they'll
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: eventually click. But that on all cylinders. Thank goodness. We
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: don't play in Colombia. Oh wow, that's an old reference. Yeah,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: the two Escobars. Yeah, good. Thirty for thirty. By the way,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: did you ever see that one? I have? Oh it's soccer,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: that's right. I lost about It's an interesting story, but
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's the only thirty thirty I did see. Really,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: you don't want one. I don't want thirty for thirties.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: They were very well done. They're almost I know my
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: sons like he swore by them. They're very now. They're
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: very had, like the holes of the market, like they
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: sold in the bookstores, like ten locker from ESPN and
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: it had all the thirty for thirty DVDs in it,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: like he had that, like he was into it. Why
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: is it called thirty for thirty. It was the thirtieth
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: anniversary of ESPN. They were going to do thirty document
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: thirty stories thirty years. Yeah, thank you, I'm glad I
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: asked that. Yeah, I always thought it was thirty minutes
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: until I watched the ESCO it was. I was stuck
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: in like a baseball reference, like he went thirty for thirty, Like, yeah,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: they just continued because now it's a franchise, so it's
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: surrounded by abjecting confidence Bill and Vista California. It's either
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Bill Vista in California or Bill and Vista California. Yeah,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: there's definitely where where's that? I don't know, but it's
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: probably got a view. Thanks, good call, he says. Do
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: you guys see Brady playing a role in either coaching
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: or as an executive down the line? A few years ago,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: I would say no, But now, seeing how he's having
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: a hard time walking away from the game, wouldn't be
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: surprised to see it happen. I know he's obviously still
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: playing at a high level. Just want to see him
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: coach a team and add to the ring collection. I
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: don't think there's any chance that he will ever coach.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Ownership would be more like ownership or like an l
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: way like yeah, overseer or an organization. I can see that,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: but mostly ownership. I don't see him doing the work.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: I don't see him wanting to do that work, not
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: that he's not that he's lazy. I don't see him
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: wanting to do that. The only I don't think he
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: would find the juice in that. The only thing I
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: would wonder about him though, like would he be like
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: a Jerry Jones type owner, where like he's sitting up there,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: you know how competitive he is? Yeah, if they start
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: doing badly, is he gonna be like pacing up and
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: down the suite. Is he gonna be going down to
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: the sideline at halftime getting in people's face and he's
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: like is he gonna be that kind of owner guys right?
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: Or is he gonna be like, just give me the pads,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: I'll do it right, Like you're sixty, can still do
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: it better than you? What's what about your honor? Who's honor?
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: I just I think unfortunately this whole episodo with him.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: It's it just makes me believe that it's gonna have
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: to be taken from him, like his his playing days,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: that he'll they'll have to be something that that forces
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: him to stop. I don't know. I don't know if
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: he'll stop now until he is forced. Yeah, Well, his
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: father kind of predicted that it wasn't going to be pretty.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: It's just like that's what But I think he was
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: talking about Patriots, but he was right. Everything is also
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: about his career though, like he's like you said, they're
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: gonna have to take him off on a stretcher before
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: he's like see, I don't think that. I think when
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: he's not playing well in his mind, he will stop.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: But that's the thing in his mind. It might always
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: be somebody else who's causing him not to play well.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think he will play badly in your mind
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: and not think that he's not playing well? Yes, I don't.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I think if if everybody, Yeah, that's why. I think
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: if everybody's watching and say he can't play anymore, I
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: think he will have known that he can't play. Yeah,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Willie May situation. But it's
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: like he's so exacting. It's unlike Brett Favre, who like
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: he's all over the place. He was a schoolyard player,
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: you know, and like you know, the way he plays,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm still playing well, Like that interception wasn't
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: my fault, you know. Whereas Brady he knows he also,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: like Farv was a like five didn't want to put
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: the work in. Yeah, Five just wanted to show up
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: and play. Brady wants to put the work in. That's why,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: that's why five stopped. You're absolutely right, absolutely right, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: He wants a copper fit. He wanted a hunt and
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: drink buds. Right, what dogs ain't gonna hunt? Who doesn't?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: Jack and Ann Arbor writes in pop ups, get in
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: the way, don't wear all carper fit, Like just walk in.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: I got all works? What am I? What do you
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: want me to say? I love copper, copper feel great? Jerry?
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: Right right, come on, old man, what are you doing
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: out there? Jack says uh. Devin Lloyd is not a
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: first round talent. At the Combine. He ran a four
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: six six forty, which ranked him sixteenth best. He was
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: also sixteenth best and vertical jump tenth best, and long
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: jump at sixty three and two thirty seven pounds. Lloyd
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: has good NFL size, but he does not have the
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: elite athleticism to justify using a first round pick on him.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: Can he play football? Can play football? Like those measurable
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: numbers like that? That's what I hate about the Combine.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: He had a guy either have to run forty yards
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: to make the tack right, a guy either sinks or rises,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, unfairly because of what he did
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: at the Combine and just look at his tape. Can
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: he play football? And I don't know. Like I've said
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: this many times, I am not a guy that can
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: watch kids in college and say he will be able
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: to do this in the pros. There's always something that
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: the guy can't do that you don't know. Yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: not professional scout. I don't. I don't have that. And
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, if the teams had it,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't miss so many guys. But I watched that
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: guy play and I don't look at anything like four
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: to sixty six he can't like, that's pretty good for
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  Speaker 1: inside linebacker to me, Yeah, I mean, there would the
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: balls going get there. There were fifteen inside linebackers that
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  Speaker 1: ran better than four six forty fifteen. I'm not talking
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: about the edge guys, the edge guys that running four
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: threes like the receivers crazy, I'm not talking about them.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: There were fifteen inside linebackers of the combine that ran
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: better than four to six six. Yeah, And I mean
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: unless you I don't know if he even said it
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: was just inside linebackers. I think he just said sixteenth.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what he's talking about. I assumed
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: he meant by I assumed he meant linebacker. Yeah, well,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: but could be outside linebackers too. I don't know. It's
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: it's weird and the way they do the combat. Did
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: I not just say I'm not talking about the edge guys. No,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: I know, but those outside linebackers. No, But I don't
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: know what he meant. I can't imagine that there were
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: sixteen Nakobe Dean's that ran better than four sixty inside
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: guys like I can't imagine there were fifteen other guys
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  Speaker 1: that ran like that. It's also like, unless you're a
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: receiver on a go route on the outside, you're almost
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: never running full speed in a great line for that
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: long that your time is going to be. But it
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: shows you how athletic quick facts like I understand it's
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: a baseline, Like do you think like Tremaine, it's trem Edmonds, right, Tremaine,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: that's the Buffalo Tremaine right number forty? Think he runs
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: a four six forty? I don't care. I'm gonna guess no.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. He's a big guy. He yes. No,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. He's a good player. Is he great? No?
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  Speaker 1: But he's good and he could play inside because he's
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: fast enough, long enough, and he does a lot of things.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: Cape cod look at the two Cape it is. I mean,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: I think this time of year two people get obsessed
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: with the numbers because it's easy to stack and rank
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: guys by No, you know, and so you look at
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: the guys and some guys you'll you'll like, and you
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: watch him and wow, I enjoy watching this guy. You know,
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: um leoshanal is as another linebacker who's just was fun
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: to watch for me, like just an absolute beast on
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: the inside. I don't know how well he's going to translate,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: but I know I liked watching him. All Right, that's
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I
• 1:57:05
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• 1:57:09
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