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Governor Mills clears the way for antisemitic nutter Platner against Senator (Saint) Susan Collins · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: to begin with the biggest news story of the day,
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  Speaker 1: Governor Janet Mills in Maine, who wanted to run against
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  Speaker 1: Susan Collins for the Senate seat up there. It's purple state.
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  Speaker 1: They got the best Senate delegation in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Susan Collins right in the middle of the Senate. Angus King,
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  Speaker 1: who caucuses with the Democrats, and Collins and the Republican
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  Speaker 1: right in the middle of the Senate. The two of
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  Speaker 1: them always bring together deals they are they're great for me.
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  Speaker 1: And now Susan Collins is chairwoman of the Appropriations Committee,
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  Speaker 1: so she has enormous power, and boy does she take
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  Speaker 1: care of Maine. From the lobstermen, to the oyster farmers,
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  Speaker 1: to the restaurant tour to the people want to build AI,
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  Speaker 1: to people who need new roads, who want to revitalize
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  Speaker 1: the various parts of the state. She's just sat Susan.
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  Speaker 1: I call her, and she knows everybody. She's from the
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  Speaker 1: county way up North Canada Way, and she's humble, she's smart,
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  Speaker 1: she's lovely. She should win with sixty percent of the
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  Speaker 1: vote in a normal year. Democrats, though, Janet Mills pulled
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  Speaker 1: out because her opponent Graham Platner. Graham Platiner is a radical.
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  Speaker 1: He is also I think unstable. He calls himself an
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  Speaker 1: oyster farmer. He comes from a wealthy family. He did
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  Speaker 1: go into the military, he did serve the country, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you for that. And he has a Nazi tattoo. He
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  Speaker 1: said he was going to remove it. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: that he is. He has said many things that can
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  Speaker 1: only lead me to conclude that he is, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: an anti semi, not just anti Israel, an anti semi.
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  Speaker 1: He is a he's a socialist, He makes Bernie Sanders
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  Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Warren look like moderates. And he is going
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  Speaker 1: to get the Democratic nominated. Chanel dropped out, so you're
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  Speaker 1: going to get hammered by him. He should not pull
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  Speaker 1: more than twenty percent. I'm going to ask Dennis Peger
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  Speaker 1: about this later in a normal year, if people really
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  Speaker 1: knew anything about it. In Maine, which is a you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifty to fifty state, it's purple, they after this election
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  Speaker 1: they should have one Republican congressman, one Democrat congressman, one
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  Speaker 1: Republican senator, one Democrat senator. It's that kind of a state.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone gets along, a very nice place, very small, one
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  Speaker 1: point one million people older state. Are they really going
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  Speaker 1: to vote for a wacko? And I say wacko in
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  Speaker 1: terms of politics, he's so far out there that I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know. I lack vocabulary. There's never been anyone
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  Speaker 1: like him in America. Now, Republicans have done this in
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  Speaker 1: the past. We've nominated wacos and they got crushed because
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  Speaker 1: legacy media came along and always was careful to say
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  Speaker 1: to people, no, not that person. Christine O'Donnell in Delaware,
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  Speaker 1: I am not a witch. Sharon Angele in Nevada. I
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  Speaker 1: got a bad rap in some respects. There are many others.
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  Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell always used to say, first thing you gotta
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  Speaker 1: do is win. Don't nominate people from the fringe. Well,
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  Speaker 1: main Democrats are nominating. He's not from the fringe. He's
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  Speaker 1: from beyond the fringe. It's like from area fifty one
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  Speaker 1: of politics. And I want you to remember. Senator collins
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  Speaker 1: website is Susancollins dot com. Go right now, contribute, sign
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  Speaker 1: up help her. When she was asked by Manu of
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  Speaker 1: CNN today about Janet Mills dropping out, here's what Senator
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  Speaker 1: Collins had to say, cut number twelve have a good
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  Speaker 1: reaction to the Mills news.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure this was a very difficult to session for
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  Speaker 2: Governor Mills, and so I which sure, well, she has
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  Speaker 2: devoted her life to public services in the state of Maine,
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  Speaker 2: in many different capacities. She has served the people of
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  Speaker 2: our state, and I'm sure this was a hard decision
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  Speaker 2: for her.
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  Speaker 1: This will planter be easier to be in your.
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  Speaker 2: View, I'm not going to get into the November election
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  Speaker 2: at this point. Uh, this is the Governor's day and
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  Speaker 2: I think the focus should be on her and her
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  Speaker 2: wanting to give her message to the people of Maine.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats believe that she has the energy on the left.
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  Speaker 3: Is he had become bring a lot more energy that
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  Speaker 3: she would have the general election gain.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm not going to get into playing pundit in
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  Speaker 2: this uh in this race. If this is the governor's decision,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it was very difficult. She spent decades in
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  Speaker 2: public service. She served as a district attorney, as a
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  Speaker 2: state attorney general, and the two term governor of the
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  Speaker 2: state of many of we have worked well together in
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  Speaker 2: the past, and I'm sure we'll continue to work together.
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  Speaker 4: For the ring names of her townment of going for
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  Speaker 4: thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Then Zusan Collins goes back into right now. Senator Collins
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  Speaker 1: is the definition of class. So she just raised the
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  Speaker 1: bar there. I'm not going to take you a shot
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  Speaker 1: at Graham Platner. I'm not going to do any I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to salute Janet Mills. Now, if Janet Mills had
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  Speaker 1: been her general election opponent, it would have been a slugfest,
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  Speaker 1: and jan Mills would have lost forty five to Susan
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  Speaker 1: Collins fifty five, just like as happened six years ago
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  Speaker 1: when the Democrats nominated a very liberal Democrat, but not
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  Speaker 1: a crazy very liberal Democrats often do well statewide. Angus
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  Speaker 1: King is not very liberal. Angus King is kind of moderate.
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  Speaker 1: But the folks in Maine, and I've now spent five
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  Speaker 1: summers there and before that many many trips. The folks
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  Speaker 1: in Maine appreciate courtesy. The folks in Maine appreciate serious people.
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  Speaker 1: The folks in Maine are very nice. It's just a
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  Speaker 1: nice place to be. And of course it's a It
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  Speaker 1: swells a double, it's ordinary number in the summertime. And
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  Speaker 1: the roads are You're never going to write home about
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  Speaker 1: the roads. There aren't any. But it's a wonderful community.
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  Speaker 1: All I can tell you is Tony. Tony is the
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  Speaker 1: best commercial real estate guy in Maine. Tony McDonald's a
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  Speaker 1: friend of mine. I have no idea what his politics are.
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  Speaker 1: My late friend Brian, I have no idea what his
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  Speaker 1: politics were. George. All the guys that I hang with, well,
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  Speaker 1: we just don't do politics. A little bit of it, maybe,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't do follow that. We talk about how
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  Speaker 1: much I hate the Red Sox, how much they love
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox, and what's going on in Maine and
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  Speaker 1: lighthouses and boats and fishing. I don't do any of
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, but that's Maine. And people go to Maine
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  Speaker 1: to relax, and people go to Maine to be friends,
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  Speaker 1: and along comes this radical And I mean, people have
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  Speaker 1: been calling Trump Nazi and Hitler forever and that's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But when you have a Nazi tattoo and you've had
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  Speaker 1: it forever and everyone knows what it is, what do
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  Speaker 1: we say about that? And when you talk in cliche
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  Speaker 1: and that's all it is, cliche after cliche after cliche.
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  Speaker 1: He makes Bernie Sanders sound coherent. He makes Elizabeth Lawrence
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  Speaker 1: Warren sound conservative. You know, Maine doesn't elect left wing lunatics.
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  Speaker 1: They elect Angus King. Angus King. I see Angus on
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  Speaker 1: the airplane, even though my brother in law forever. They
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  Speaker 1: played high school football together a thousand years ago in
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  Speaker 1: Virginia and they've been friends ever since. They rode motorcycles
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  Speaker 1: in Maine. Everybody gets along with everybody in Maine, because
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't If you're on a kayak and you're out
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  Speaker 1: there in the middle of nowhere in the bay Casco Bay,
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  Speaker 1: you don't ask anybody what do you think of Trump
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  Speaker 1: to I mean, you just get along and it's a
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  Speaker 1: normal place. Grand Platner is like throwing a rock through
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  Speaker 1: the window of a perfectly beautiful restaurant on the ocean
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  Speaker 1: in May. It's like bringing La nightmarish politics. We're the
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  Speaker 1: most nightmare. It's New York City, like bringing Mom Donnie
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  Speaker 1: to Maine, except Mom Donnie has got more common sense
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  Speaker 1: than grand Platner. And I just want to warn my
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  Speaker 1: friends in Maine, and I want to ask everyone a
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  Speaker 1: in the country go right now to Susancollins dot com,
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  Speaker 1: not just for Maine, but for the country. We cannot
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  Speaker 1: allow the extremism of grand Platner to be credential. He
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  Speaker 1: is an extremist. He is a bomb throwing, figuratively Nazi
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  Speaker 1: tattoo wearing non figuratively literally extremists. And he should not
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  Speaker 1: be in the United States Senate. And it shouldn't be close.
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  Speaker 1: You should be embarrassed to vote for him and to
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  Speaker 1: contribute to him. You ought to just absolutely run away
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  Speaker 1: from anyone with a platinum sign. You ought to just
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  Speaker 1: wonder about what's wrong with them. And I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if you live in Southern California, San Diego You're about
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  Speaker 1: as far removed as from the state park at the
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  Speaker 1: top of Mount Desire. You're so far away from Menu
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  Speaker 1: you might not even be able to know that Maine
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  Speaker 1: has an e At the end of it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: Go to Susancollins dot com and make a contribution. Go
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  Speaker 1: to Susan Collins and say, this country does not need
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  Speaker 1: more wacky people in the United States Senate. We got
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  Speaker 1: plenty of them. We need normal people from the center,
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  Speaker 1: moderate people, and Susan Collins is a chairman of appropriation.
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  Speaker 1: She's loved by everyone in both the Democratic and the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party because she makes it work. It's very, very
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  Speaker 1: complicated stuff. She's worked at it for you years, and
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  Speaker 1: she's young. She's going to be there, I think two
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  Speaker 1: more terms, at least this term, and shot away with
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  Speaker 1: seventy five percent of the vote. People should repudiate this
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  Speaker 1: kind of but Maine should lead the way in repudiating hate.
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  Speaker 1: Grand Platner is a hater. He is absolutely a hater,
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  Speaker 1: and we should not elect haters to the United States Senate.
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  Speaker 1: It is that simple. Go to Susancollins dot com and supporter,
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  Speaker 1: and then go again to Susancolins dot Com and supporter,
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  Speaker 1: and tell everyone you know of any connection with Maine.
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  Speaker 1: Don't vote for the Nutter all right, don't vote for extremism.
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  Speaker 1: The United States cannot afford more of that. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be right back in America if Pete headset up
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  Speaker 1: on the other day. Josh Croshauer is next.
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  Speaker 5: Though.
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  Speaker 1: He broke the Grand Platiner Janic kink story this morning,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm talking about it. Brought her back America. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Hewittt, joined by the editor in chief of Jewish Insider,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Crosshauer, who wrote this morning of Graham Platner being
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  Speaker 1: the likely nominee. Josh, I just did. I'm monolog He's
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  Speaker 1: an extremist. He's outside the bounds of ordinary normal American politics.
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  Speaker 1: He not a lefty like Bernie Sandy, not a lefty
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  Speaker 1: like Elizabeth Warren. He's an extremist. He's in temperate. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if he's balanced. And Susan Collins is
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  Speaker 1: a moderate as centrist as you can get beloved in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Maine. I don't think he should get
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  Speaker 1: twenty five percent. I think if you vote for him,
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  Speaker 1: you're endorsing the devolution of American politics. What do you
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  Speaker 1: make of this development?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Hugh, we live in such partisan times that ten
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  Speaker 4: years ago, the guy like this, with this kind of
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  Speaker 4: profile calls himself a socialist, praise comas terrorist tactics against
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  Speaker 4: Israeli soldiers, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Had a Nazi tattoo.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that that's just the tip of the iceberg
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  Speaker 4: que and that that's the kind of oppo that would
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  Speaker 4: disqualify a candidate, report can or Democrat from running for
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  Speaker 4: higher office in our partisan, tribal times. And also given
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  Speaker 4: the fact that the Democratic Party has just in the
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  Speaker 4: last year moved just tremendously to the left, that this
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  Speaker 4: is a guy who has unseated the city Democratic governor,
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  Speaker 4: who Chuck Schumer recruited into the race, and she dropped
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  Speaker 4: out knowing that she had very little chance of winning
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  Speaker 4: the nomination.
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  Speaker 5: I think all bets are off on this.
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  Speaker 4: Election under normal the rules of politics, the normal rules
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  Speaker 4: of political gravity. Susan Collins, You're right, Hugh would wipe
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  Speaker 4: the floor with someone with this extreme of a record.
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  Speaker 5: But we live in extreme times.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that Democrats all they care about is if
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  Speaker 4: you're anti Trump, and that's the one thing Platner has
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  Speaker 4: and we've seen another candidate, Ja Jones and in Virgion,
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  Speaker 4: my homestead of Virginia, who threatened political violence against.
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  Speaker 5: One of his rivals.
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  Speaker 4: He won the state attorney general position. There are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of extremist candidates that have actually won elections.
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  Speaker 5: Given the environment we're in.
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  Speaker 4: We're in a very very unusual time politically, a very
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  Speaker 4: you know, the number of younger voters, younger leftists, especially
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  Speaker 4: endorsing violence political violence is just unheard of. The hatred
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  Speaker 4: of Israel within the Democratic Party unheard of in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 4: But that's the reality, and that's the waters that Grand
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  Speaker 4: Platner a is swimming in now.
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  Speaker 1: Josh, you bring up Jay Jones, and that's an interesting example.
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  Speaker 1: He was on a ticket with a perceived moderate the
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  Speaker 1: Abigail Spanberger, the new governor in Virginia, has revealed herself
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  Speaker 1: to be a leftist, but he was able to hide
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  Speaker 1: and that story surface late. We've known about Grand Plattner
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  Speaker 1: for months and everybody thought after the Nazi tattoo came out,
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  Speaker 1: well he's done. But he wasn't done. And that's because
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic base is wacky and they may not recognize
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  Speaker 1: the significance of getting behind. It's got a national significance
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  Speaker 1: having someone this extreme run for office. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: Democrats may adopt the position of saying nothing and then
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  Speaker 1: voting for Susan Collins because she won him with fifty
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the vote six years ago against a
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  Speaker 1: very liberal Democrat, but a normal Democrat? Is it? Pentegred
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember a number name, but and they spent
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  Speaker 1: ten millions of dollars against trend. She's still saying, Susan,
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  Speaker 1: she gets a job done for maners. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: anyone's gonna hesitate to pull the lever because the guys out.
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  Speaker 4: There there have always been a lot of quiet independence
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  Speaker 4: in the state of Maine. Maine is an independent state, Hughe.
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  Speaker 4: You've got Angies King, an independent senator. You have Susan Collins,
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  Speaker 4: the most moderate Republican in the Senate Caucus, who wins.
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  Speaker 5: Tough race after tough race.
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  Speaker 4: You have Jared Golden, who's one of the most conservative
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  Speaker 4: Democrats in the House and in one of the congressional
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  Speaker 4: districts there. So this is a moderate, independent minded state.
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  Speaker 4: Grant Platner does not fit the profile in terms of
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  Speaker 4: politics that Maine.
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  Speaker 5: Voters vote for.
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  Speaker 4: So I also, Susan Collins was trailing in every single
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  Speaker 4: poll in that in that race in twenty twenty, which
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  Speaker 4: was also a fairly challenging year for Republicans.
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  Speaker 5: And one going away.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I think the rules of politics, the
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  Speaker 4: fundamentals favor Susan Collins playing right now is not looking
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  Speaker 4: good though for the Republican Party.
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  Speaker 5: And that's where the rubber hits the road.
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  Speaker 4: The big question is is this a base issue? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: the Democratic base has gone off off the reservation and
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  Speaker 4: that's what we're seeing with Platner and Maine LSI ed
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  Speaker 4: and his rise in Michigan, Minnesota similar dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: We're very Flanagan in Minnesota. Canada.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but Cheltavoyd running has the Republican hominy that
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  Speaker 4: in that one.
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  Speaker 1: Not Tom Wyler might win. Josh, I'm just saying, I
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  Speaker 1: play fair among all the Republicans until like Johnson and
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  Speaker 1: is running against Scott Brown. And I've had Scott on
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times at SUW on this week, I
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  Speaker 1: try not to oh like Scott Brown a lot. I
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  Speaker 1: endorsed him, but I fared everyone and so that brace,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't picked anyone yet, but it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be planning. And she's the
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  Speaker 1: lieutenant governor.
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  Speaker 4: Right She's running against Angie Craig, who is a swing
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  Speaker 4: district moderate who has one tough race after tough race,
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  Speaker 4: like recruited by the party leaders, including Chuck Schumer, and
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  Speaker 4: she's down in the polls against a very left wing,
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  Speaker 4: you know, borderline socialist lieutenant governor and Peggy Flanagan. And
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  Speaker 4: so this is where the party is. The big question
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  Speaker 4: is what are the suburban moms that like Janet Mills
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  Speaker 4: and like Susan Collins, and they Democrats thought they were
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  Speaker 4: going to go with Janet Mills if that was the matchup.
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  Speaker 4: Where do those swing voters go? Right now, they're so
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  Speaker 4: angry at Trump. I think they're parking in the Democratic lane.
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  Speaker 4: But as we learn more about Platner's record, and there's
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  Speaker 4: even more out there, that gonna be the big question
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  Speaker 4: for the hoderate voters that typically decide main elections.
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  Speaker 1: If you are going to advise a super pack that
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  Speaker 1: not affiliate with Susan Collins but they don't want Platner
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  Speaker 1: in the race, what kind of ad would you run?
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  Speaker 1: Would you run stormtroopers? With the swastika on and the
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  Speaker 1: skull and bones that Platiner had. Would you run? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what would what would you try and explain to people?
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  Speaker 1: I really think he's a whack.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think the argument that a lot of
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  Speaker 4: consultants would tell you is you got to run on
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  Speaker 4: the economy and the economy. He's trying to make the
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  Speaker 4: case on the economy, and I think Collins is going
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  Speaker 4: to need to neutralize that case and make the case
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  Speaker 4: that he's a socialist who's just too dangerous and extretingum
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  Speaker 4: to represent the state.
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  Speaker 5: And the Senate. Yeah, I also wrote I wrote this
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  Speaker 5: in the column today, Hugh.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, it's kind of quaint that Christine O'Donnell
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  Speaker 4: had to run an ad where she said I am
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  Speaker 4: not a witch in the twenty ten race that she
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  Speaker 4: lost in Delaware. Well, this guy said in his first
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  Speaker 4: interview before or right after jumping in the in the race,
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  Speaker 4: I am not a secret Nazi.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, maybe that's the ad because.
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  Speaker 4: That's on videotape to the Potsea of America crew, I
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  Speaker 4: am not a secret Nazi, and that that shows.
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  Speaker 5: You how exotic, extreme and out of the nail.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: If I can get that tape, I'm asking my producers
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: to get that tape. I am not a Nacha. If
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you have to say I'm not a secret Nazi, you
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: have a real problem. But he's also to the left
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: of Elizabeth Warren, to the left of Bernie Sanders. He
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: is just a wacky left wing I mean, it's the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: horseshoe theory where fascism and communism come together. There's Graham
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Plattner at the end of that road.
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: That's right. Morn and Sanders are both in doorstep.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: That tells you we're that part of the party has
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: gotten I mean the flip side the argument that Democrats
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: make and I understand this from an esthetic point of view,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: but he looks like the rural working class voter that
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: that often vote Republican, and if the economy is not good,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: if gas prices are up, the Democratic thinking is, well,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: maybe they're not going to care about the baggage. We're
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: in a post reality world where partisanship matters most the
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: versus skins the party label means more than anything else.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I'm still skeptical that that's the case, but I do
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: acknowledge that we're in a different time politically, and it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: kind of we see the extremes, you know, we see
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: the rise of political violence, the rise of political extremism,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: and you know, if you're a Republican, you better hope
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: that there's some sane, moderate pragmatists that end up voting
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: the way they normally do.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Now, you know, maners are pretty smart and they know
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that Susan Collins is the chair of Appropriation, takes care
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: of the lobsterman, takes care of the fisherman, takes care
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: of the environment. She's a moderate. I just don't see
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: this happening, but I will be disturbed if he gets
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: more than twenty five percent of the vote. Who's that wild?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Josh cross Hower can be followed at Josh cross Houer
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Hewett. Eleana Y Johnson
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: is the editor in chief of the Washington Freebeacon at
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Freebeacon dot com, also a regular participant in the commentary
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: podcast an old friend of Mine Ellianna, What if anything
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: will the Freebeacon be doing to alert the good people
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: of Maine that Graham Platner is an extremist who ought
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to get nowhere near elected office.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Well, it's a great question, Hugh.
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: We've actually had a reporter on the ground in Maine
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: covering his campaign events, which is useful, and from that,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: we've listened to him on the campaign trail and heard
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: him say that if he had his way, companies like
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: Google and Palanteer wouldn't exist, and which I don't think
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: has made national headlines except in the Free Beacon. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: also that tribal sovereignty is at the core of his
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: political identity. That's an addition to other stories that the
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: mainstream media and others have picked up on, like his
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: praise of Hamas and his Nazi tattoo and his other
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: assorted redded comments. This is a man, as you've mentioned,
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: who's on the far left wing of the Democratic Party,
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: who's been endorsed by Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: who Chuck Schumer very much did not want to get
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: the nomination. But certainly Democratic primary voters are rallying to
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: candidates on the far left of the party, not just
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: in Maine, but also in Michigan, where we see an
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: insurgent Abdul l Saied who may well win that primary.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: There also, again, the wishes of Democratic minority leader Chuck Schumer.
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: This is obviously where the energy in the party is.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: And I think the.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: Real test come November is whether in a tough year
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: for Republicans, the vote you know, the independent voters who
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: may be disaffected with the Trump administration are going to
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: be willing to cast ballots for people on the far left.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Now, the good news is in Maine, Senator Susan Collins
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: is the definition of moderate. You look up in a
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: dictionary moderate, you're going to find Susan Collins there. She
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: is the chairwoman of the Senator Appropriations Committee, which means
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: she has got a lot of power over, for example,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the regulations that would otherwise think the fishing industry, the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: lobster industry, travel, everything like that. Susan Collins is not
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: from the Trump wing of the party. She's a moderate
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: liberal Republican old school. This guy should if he gets
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: more than twenty five percent, I'll be alarmed for the country.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: That's that. I'm not exaggerating. He's nuts. He's an anti
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Semitic extremist. He's got no economic plan. He's a rich kid.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He did go to the army, thank you for your service,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: but whenever he got out of it, I don't want
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: anyone else to get out of it. Do you think
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: will you be alarmed if he gets more than twenty
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: five percent of the people who basically walk in and
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: pull the d level lever.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Hugh, I'm alarmed he's captured the Democratic nomination and
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: that the Democratic Party appears to be in the process
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: of being captured by radicals. That's been happening for the
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: past five years.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: And I fully.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: Expect him to get more than twenty five percent of
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: the vote in this election because of the party's polarization
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: increasing polarization. And I think you said something important there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: You mentioned that he's a rich kid, and the way
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: that he's cast himself to Maine voters is as a
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: working class manor he comes from an extremely wealthy family,
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: and the image that he's trying to put forwards to
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: voters is totally at odds with the image that with
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: who he really is. And I think that's actually Susan
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: Collins is probably the best message that she'll have to
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: lean into is that he's a phony.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: That's what voters don't like.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: He has a wealthy, famous, famous architect grandfather. He went
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: to hugely expensive private schools, I'm not sure what kind
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: of career, if any. You know, he claims to be
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: a fisherman, but he's enormously wealthy and now has turned
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: to this to you know, to politics as a hobby,
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: and he's campaigning on economics because you know, wealthy people
• 23:37
  Speaker 7: can afford socialism, you know.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: The The other thing, though, Susan Collins is from the county,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the farthest north county, the least populated county. Her family,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: as I think, hardware store up there, and she's been
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: in main politics forever and everybody knows her and she
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: knows everyone, and everybody likes her. So she's going to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: run a normal campaign a normal person. I'm from Maine.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm really know what Mainers want and need. And this guy,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he would you agree to debate him?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I would not debate this guy. I wouldn't get on
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a stage with him. Should she?
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: I mean I think she should take him on because
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: I think she will come across as as normal and
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: she's she's formidable politically. And Maine is also the Maine
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: is one thing we haven't talked about, Hugh is Maine
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: is also the oldest state in the country, and I
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: think people will associate with her he's my age, he's uh,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't. I don't think of myself as young,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: but you know, he's relatively young, and and I think
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I think this is a contrast that she could actually
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: draw out and that would redound to her benefit and
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: call him to account for some of the for for
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: some of the phoniness and for some of the uh
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: other hugely controversial things that he says on the campaign
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: trail but isn't directly challenged about by the mainstream media.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: To the extent that he's going to be challenged, it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: going to have to be by her.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Hugh, I don't know that I would legitimize him. By
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the way, Maine is the oldest state, it's also one
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of the poorer states. It's also a gun owning state,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like one out of maybe the eighth most guns per capita,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: something like that has platinered. As The Free Beacon reported
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: on his gun positions. Yet, I'll bet you've got a
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: lot of them.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: I don't.
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think we have.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Actually, Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if that doesn't
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: cause a collision with the average maner, and then there
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: are things like fishing. He says he's an oyster farmer. Yeah,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not buying that. I'm not buying anything about him.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I think he's just a phony extremist. He might believe
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the extremism stuff, but I think he's a phony working
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: class guy. How long does that last? How long can
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you carry that off? Well?
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: I think it depends on Susan Collins and her campaign's ability,
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: through both what she says and the ads she chooses
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: to run to puncture that veneer. And note that you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: he attended a seventy or eighty thousand dollars a year
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: high school and something appears to have happened there. But
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: he went back to Maine to attend private high school
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: and to call attention to who his family is and
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: what he really comes from. And I think, you know,
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: Republicans have suffered in previous years from nominating candidates who
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: are just too far out of the mainstream. Our friend
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: Josh Kraushawer, I heard him talking to you earlier.
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: He wrote about this this morning.
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: We remember twenty ten well, Sharon Engele and Todd Aiken,
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: who talked about legitimate rape on the campaign Trail and
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: Christine O'Donnell that I am not a witch. And I
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: think the question this year is whether these extreme candidates,
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: whether voters will reject them in the same way, or
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: whether they will become the beating heart of the Democratic part.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So close this segment, Let's play for Eliana. Cut number
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: whatever is the last cut? This is I am not
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a secret Nazi. Let me do that again. I am
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: not a secret Nazi. That's the ad. Is it an Eliana?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: That's the ad? Eleana Y Johnson, follow on it? Welcome
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Back America. That was Graham Platner, presumptive nominee of the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Democrats for Senate in Maine. Can we play that again
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: one more time before I go to Vic matis, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: am not a secret Nazi? All right? Victory No. Mattis
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: editor of the Culture and Arts editor and weekend editor
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of the Washington Free Beacon and co host of Getting
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Hammered podcast. If you have to say that, are you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: in trouble? Hugh?
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know why you and so many members of
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the right wing media are picking on this poor oyster farmer.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: He just wants to, you know, represent the you know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: The poor hard working people of Maine, whether you be
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: a communist or a Nazi.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: So here we are.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I mean that was quite a bomb at bombshell at
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: least for me when I learned that Janet Mills was
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: dropping out. And now it looks like the path is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: wide open for Graham Planner to be the next Democratic
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: nominee to take on Susan Collins. No, it's not a
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: great position to be in to have to actually say
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I am not a secret Nazi. But it doesn't help
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: when you have a covered up tattoo, only recently covered
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: up of what he, according to close advisors, called his
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: toten kopp, which is the German for the deathhead. And
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: this is coming from people who worked with him, people
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: who knew him, not Republicans. We're talking about, you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: people who worked on the Democratic campaign who quit and
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: they said he was bad news.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And yet here he is, and the rest of the
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: left in the media are.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren included embracing him and saying, you know what,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that was a long time ago.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: He's changed. He's a leftist wacko who if he gets
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: more than twenty five percent, I'll be alarmed for the country. Now,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the good news is he's running against Susan Collins, miss
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: moderate MS CENTRISMS, chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, maybe
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the most respected person in the Senate who has been
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: there a long time, and she's lovely and everyone may
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: knows her, and she's from the county, and she should
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: roll over sixty five percent here. But I'm still alarmed
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that the Democrats would put up someone who is anti
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Semitic as a Nazi tattoo and has endorsed Thomas's tactics.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Isn't that alarming? Yeah? No, it's extremely alarming.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm actually more of a pessimist than you, Hugh.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I think those numbers are going to be higher. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: think that Susan Collins can still win. But I wouldn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: be surprised if you have that many people out there,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: you know, who don't follow a lot of you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: traditional news outlets and are getting you know, their stories
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: from you know, bad sources on social media, much like
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you know, the shooter of the White House Correspondent's dinner,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: and they're being told by actually very well accepted folks
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: on the left Democrats in Congress that you know what
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: this guy is, Okay, you know what he said? A
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: lot of things, but you know what it was because
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: he was in the army, and the army brainwashed him. Essentially,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: they changed his views and that's why he became a
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: bad person.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And now he realizes all his comments about.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: You know, rape and rape victims and gaze, all of
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: that is now suddenly bad. And he's not a communist
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: per se, certainly not a Nazi. And ignore that tattoo,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: which is now something else like an Irish or Scottish
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: wolf for some insane gibberish like that. No, it's going
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: to be disturbing to see how many people vote for him.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I didn't think people were going to vote for Jay
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Jones for Attorney General after what he said, but there
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I agree, But I think Jay Jones was down ticket.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: He's top of ticket. And Jay Jones had cover from
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Abigail Spanburger. He has no cover and Susan Collins may
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: not say a word. I wouldn't debate him if I
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: were her, but that's up to her and the super
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: pats will come in over the top. But people don't
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: go to Susancollins dot com and contribute. I got to
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: get to the most controversial you said in the new
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: edition of Getting Hammered. I talked to them cage about
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the White House Correspondents dinner. I went over the fact
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: that if you swim in sewage, you're going to get sick,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and that guy got sick because he's swamming sewage. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: went over all that. I did not go over your
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: critique of airports as the new casinos. And I would
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: like you to explain to people, because upon reflection, the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: judges have concurred in your call airports are the new casinos.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It is that's correct to you.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: And I know, I'm sure you do a lot of
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: travel yourself, and sometimes.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You arrive at airports at very odd hours.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, I mean you have a flight that
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: leaves at six in the morning or some terrible time
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: it's five am.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: And yet you know, if.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: There's a place that's open to grab a bite to eat,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: people are are acting like it's breakfast time. And then
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: if there's a bar that's open, they're going.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: To act like it's happy hour.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, I don't know, even for my
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: standards to you, and I like, you know, noon, I
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: think that it's acceptable to start around noon unless it's
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a specull event, a holiday or a brunch.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But other than that, it's just a seven am or five.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Am is way too early for people to act like
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: they're having a you know, a cheeseburger and a beer.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: This is very odd talk about cheese. Airports like casinos.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know how often you've been blessed to fly
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: in and out of John Wayne Airport. John Wayne Airport
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in Orange County, California is one of the finest airports
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in the United States. But they have a Mickey D's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: right there off of Gate eleven, and I am never
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: not amazed by how many people, no matter what time
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: of day it is, people are ordering up two cheeseburgers,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: a large fry, and a milkshake. And they're doing it
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: at six o'clock in the morning. Who does that? Vic?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Who can eat a big at six in the morning?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, unless you have different working hours,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: you work a different shift on which I understand, then
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: you know, then you know you need to adjust your
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: meal times.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But nobody should be having breakfast that early. And if
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: you're having breakfast, I would get a sausage McMuffin with
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: egg and not a big mac at that hour.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: But no, no, it's it's mean people feel compelled, you know,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: to get coffee, specifically from Starbucks.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Truth be told. We were at the.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Charlotte airport and you know there are many places to
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: get your coffee, but you know, my daughter dragged my
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: wife along and I think they waited an hour for
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a cup of coffee.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, you got a breaker from the habit. First day
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: of Losco. Whenever I teach anyone who's got a Starbucks coffee,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: we go through the economics of Starbucks, which is not
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: good for people. Let's go through airport food. Since your connoisseur,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I believe the safest bet is tomorrow pizza, right, They're
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: almost in every pat Tomorrow pizza can't kill you. But
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I've never had Chinese food in an airport, have you.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: I might have had Chinese food if you see a
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Panda Express, that's perfectly fine, safe and delicious, but it's
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: not going.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: To be the healthiest thing.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: And you know it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: And I'd say thirty minutes going into you know, you
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: might be on a plane.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: You might be regretting that. But I would have no
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: qualms of going for a Chinese meal.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of daring when it comes to what you
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: eat before you go on a plane. Hugh, I was
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: in Iowa and I once had something called the Magic
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Mountain from a diner in Bettendorf, and that was tempting feet.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: But I managed to get through and everything was fine.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, go ahead, the fetchimus is Hue is listening,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: which is a rare enough thing. And she texts, I
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: admit to having a beer in the Frankfurt airport at
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: eight am. So I think that's because she was in Germany.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's her excuse. But yes, but you see.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: There's a problem here, you because you could say, well,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: you know there's a time difference, but what the time
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: difference means is that what is a day?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: But Frankfurt, it's too a young back in the East coast,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: so I don't know what's going on over. She doesn't
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: have a drinking problem. It's a nightcap. No, it's not.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: She does not have a drinking problem, but she does
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: love her beer. Yeah. If we go to you know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: people are drinking wine and they're a gin and tonics
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: or mixed drinks and party drink. She did get me
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a beer and it's you know, a light pilsner. What
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: does missus mattis drink.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, she likes beer because she's part Irish and part German.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: That's just in her DNA. She can go for a
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: nice light white wine or a gin and tonic, but
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: really anything more than that, and any more than one drink,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: then it gets a little bit, you know, Then you're
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: playing with.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Fire with her.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: No, no, one might be enough for miss Do you
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: know Brett Share? Of course I know Brent.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Sure. He got my wife drunk at my son's engagement
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: party because she kept giving her mixed drinks that were
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and so she had been drunk in like forty five years,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and she was kind of reeling because Brent had been
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: mixing the drinks and she was drinking with a legend.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Though I know he's not to be underestimated ever drinking
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: him with a legend. Victoriana Matis on X Welcome back
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: in America. I'm here, Hewett. I'm full of joy because
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: my old friend Dennis Prager is back with me. Dennis,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: of course, recovering from a serious injuries. The author of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: If there is No God, which if you haven't bought
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: it yet, you ought to go out and get If
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: there is No God Dennis, good to see you. I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't know where you are, but I'm very happy to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: see you. But I'm going to start with a very
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: tough question. I know you're a news junkie, even as
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you're in your recovery. Graham Platner is going to be
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the nominee in Maine. He has a Nazi tattoo, he
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: said every anti seem anything there is to say in
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the world. What percentage of the vote should he actually
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: get in Maine without you being alarmed for the country, That's.
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: A great question. I've always assumed that twelve percent is
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: a given. When I learned many years ago twelve percent
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: of the American people believe that Elvis Presley was still living.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: So I adopted my twelve percent rule that on any
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: given issue, twelve percent of the country in any country,
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: not just America, will believe untruths. But once you get
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: past twenty My life has been dedicated to the proposition that,
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: among many other things, America is unique in its Judeo file.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Sentiments.
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: John Adams spoke about how the Hebrews have civilized humanity,
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: and of course, George Washington sent that famous letter to
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: the synagogue in Rhode Island.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I mean it's.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: Been a blessing to the Jews, and the Jews by
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: and large have been a blessing to America to see
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: anti semitism and of Israel, the one Jewish state on Earth,
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: at the levels that we're seeing that a man can
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: have a tattooed swastika and run for office, that this
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: is alarm.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's a tattooed SS skull and bones, but
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it's a Nazi tattoo, right, Yeah. Susan Collins is the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: most moderate person in the United States. She's right in
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the middle right. So she's your old school New England Republican,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and she's chair of the Appropriations Committee, and I think
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: she knows everybody in Maine and their children's names. She's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: such a good politician and such as my person. What
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: should that race be in an ordinary election cycle that
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: was not tainted by anti Semitism everywhere.
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: The normal race between a Republican and a Democrat. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: would imagine the size of government, illegal immigration, the usual issues.
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: I just want to say one more thing about the
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: Jewish issue. I have spoken at countless churches and to
• 39:19
  Speaker 8: Christian organizations, and I have quoted Genesis about those who
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: bless Israel will be will be blessed, and those who
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: curse it. It didn't mean that the nation state, the
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: people of Israel, will be cursed. And I said, it
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: is not a coincidence that the country that is most
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: blessed its Jews is the United States of America, and
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: that is the country that has been most blessed on
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: planet Earth. And then I end, and should the day
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: ever come that that America abandons its Jews, It's blessings
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: will cease. I believe that, and an atheist can believe that.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: So Dennis, if he I don't think he's going to win.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I think he's going to get blown out because mains
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: full of normal people and people who need permitsty for
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: their lobster votes. And they've got unique issues having to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: do with all sorts of growth issues and income tax issues,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: but they're not crazy. They're a little bit crunchy on
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the environment, but they're not crazy. I don't think he'll
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: get thirty percent of the vote, but that he's going
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: to be the nominee. How troubling. You've spent your whole
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: life working on being pro Western, being pro Israel, being
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: pro freedom, being pro God I mean, your book is
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: if there is no God is a good argument for God?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: How troubling would it be? Grand Planner even got within
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: fifteen points of Susan Collins, the most electable birds in
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the United States.
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: Right now, I don't remember the exact statistic, but right
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: now a serious percentage of the Democrat Party is deeply
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: anti Israel. And if people say anti Israel has nothing
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: to do with anti Semitism, let me just say this.
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: If somebody said, I love Italians, but I would like
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: to see Italy destroyed, would you take that person seriously?
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: That's what anti zion amits Zionism is simply the return
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: of the Jews to Zion, a term that America's Christians
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: used so often in Zion as a city, in so
• 42:11
  Speaker 8: many states, in Zion National Park in Utah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: This is all it is. Well, then let me conclude
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: this segment by asking you about the war with Iran.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: There's very low support for it, but I think it's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: vitally important that President Trump see it through and win.
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: Do you think he will? He's already winning. I mean,
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: what does win mean? Does it mean the unconditional surrender
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard?
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Then? I don't know if it will ever win.
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: These people are fanatics, more so even than the Japanese
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: government with its emperor.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So we're already winning the real fee. But I could
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: tell you the chief.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: Denominator of what a win is getting rid of very
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: nuclear weapons and Donald Trump. You can see it on
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: the internet. Donald Trump in the nineteen eighties said Iran
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: cannot have a nuclear weapon.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yep, hey remarkably consistent to me. A win is they
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: announced they will abandon enrichment. We get all the highly
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: enriched uranium in the Strait, has reopened bonuses, controls on
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: the missiles, and open the internet up for your people
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and stop killing them. I'll be right back with Dennis
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Prager for another segment, Don't go Anywhere, So good to
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: talk to Dennis. His show has coming back on the
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: weeknights in La on Caroma seventy and AM five ninety.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: The best of Ben at Fregier's show, and I cannot
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: recommend it highly enough for you. His book is If
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: There Is No God continues to sell like hotcakes. I'm
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: going to ask Dennis about healthcare when we come back
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Station Brog. I'm back America. I'm Hugh Hewett with my
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: old friend with him. I've been doing broadcast for about
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: thirty five years. We invented the presentation ask a Jew.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I just go around with Dennis and ask him questions.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: It was It's fabulous. I hope to do that again.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: His brand new book is If there Is No God.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It's in bookstores everywhere, It's at Amazon. It continues to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: sell like hotcakes. Dennis, I want to ask you a question,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: really more of a question for Sue, your wonderful and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: loving wife, but I want your answer. American healthcare gets
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of critiques. You've been in it since your
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: injury a year and three quarters. Now, what do you
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: make of American healthcare?
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: Well, that's a very tough question for me to answer,
• 45:08
  Speaker 8: because you have to compare American healthcare to healthcare elsewhere.
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: I can't compare it to an ideal healthcare system. That's
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: what I that's what I argue against the left a battle.
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: They compare America to a utopia, not to other countries.
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: So I would have to do the same with health care.
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: But I can tell you this, with regard to what
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: I have, spinal cord injury, there is nothing that there
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: is very little that the system helps with. Once you're
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: out of a hospital, you're on your own. You have
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: to pay all out of pocket, and this is a
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: very serious issue that my wife and I are addressing.
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: Smile and cord injury means paralysis, which is my current state.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: Thank god I have my brain. Thank god. I mean
• 46:26
  Speaker 8: I finished if there is no God in the hospital
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: paralyzed thanks to my dear friend Joel alperson. So I'll
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: give you a much better report.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: A few months from now. But this is a very
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: serious problem.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: People are left basically because it comes from the nineteen seventies.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: They didn't includes my cord injuries because people died then.
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: But people don't die.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not dead, so very much not dead, and I
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: doubt you're going to be dead for a long time.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: That's why I've had a couple of exchanges with Sue,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and I know how difficult paperwork is. But I think
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: you will be in an excellent position as a free
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: market conservative voice of influence. Yeah, to actually speak about
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't work. Have you had any
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: thought that doing that book on healthcare? Yeah?
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: Well, right now, I have to finish my fifth volume
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: of my commentary on the first five books of the Bible.
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: I have Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy and numbers out and now
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: I'm finishing Leviticus, the toughest of the five books. So
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: I can't I can't worry about a healthcare book right now.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, Dennis, the crowd that's lined up for
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Leviticus is limited. But the crowd that's lined up dar
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: with Dennis Brager thinks about everything else is very very big.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Leviticus is a little bit scary to me. But let
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: me just say one word about that. Okay.
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: On the Liberty Bell is only one verse, and it's
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: from Leviticus. I just people, give Leviticus a bum rap.
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: Love your neighbor as yourself. It's from Leviticus.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: You told me that on an airplane, blew me away
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: because I thought someone had misquoted it, maybe John Carey.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. You got it right. It's in Leviticus,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: isn't it the middle verse? Is it the middle verse
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: of Liviticus.
• 48:46
  Speaker 8: It's virtually the middle verse of the Torah, the first
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: five books.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: And so that makes it, assuming that we believe that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: there's importance to placement, that makes it a very important verse.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Did we ever figure out why they put it on
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the bell.
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: They didn't put that on the bell. They put another verse,
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: And you shall proclaim liberty throughout the land through all
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: its inhabitants. Luck is twenty five. Oh, that is wonderful.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: What are you gonna do for the two hundred and
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: fiftieth birthday? Dennis?
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Have you looked? I had that far yet. I would
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: love to be able to use a mouse.
• 49:33
  Speaker 8: That's my current ambitions.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope you'll add to your list regular appearances
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: on the q Huet Show. I cannot tell you how
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: good it is. They'll see you. Not surprisingly, you're fully
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: informed on everything in the world. So continued good luck
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: to you and your rehabilitation. God prayers on you and
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: on Sue and the whole family. Dennis Prager's new book
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: is If There Is No God, and his show's coming
• 50:01
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  Speaker 7: Oh Man got It, Hosts Bowie, he got hit Books.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett. Jim Garrity is of
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: course with National Review, columnist for the Washington Post, editor
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of the Morning Jewelt, which he sends out every day
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and you want to get, and he's at the three
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Martini Lunch podcast frequently on the editor. He's everywhere. I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was at the White House Corresponds
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Association dinner, were you, Jim?
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I was not.
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: I probably haven't been there since the early Obami years. Hugh,
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: the salahis had to ruin it for everyone, making everybody, uh,
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: since it's a name from the past or your listeners
• 51:59
  Speaker 9: private call, you know, walk into a White House reception,
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: you know, without permission.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: So now I did have.
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: Some friends who were there and who were calling me
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: from it, and you see, you know, the news on
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: X and the word is that there's a shooting. And
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: all I'm hearing is from the call is like Jim
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: to the the you know, terrible reception down there, and
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: so yeah, I get really worried about, you know.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Is everybody okay?
• 52:24
  Speaker 9: And thankfully, like that turned out about as well as
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: you possibly could have hoped if something terrible is going
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: to happen in an event like that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: So you've been here long enough, you'll remember December twenty fifteen,
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Comet Ping Pong pizza. A gunman from the right, a
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: lunatic who has been swimming in the sewage on the right,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: goes in it, shoots into the ceiling and says, I'm
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: here to rescue the pedophile victim children down in the bilgrid.
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: Yes, you remember that, right behind your heets Oven, They yeah.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Do you know how long you were sentenced to jail?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: For that? Four years? He was sentenced by Supreme Court
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: then District Court judge Kintaji Brown Jackson. How long should
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: this guy get from California who tried to kill the president.
• 53:12
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to pretend to know the legal guidelines, Hugh,
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: but my instinct is a long long time. I am
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: among those who marvel at the fact that John hick
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: Lee was ever let out of jail. I agree, and
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: I know that you know the the ruling.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Was that he wasn't. He wasn't.
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: He was cuckoo for cocoa puffs. He was insane, he
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: didn't know what he was responsible for. He was trying
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: to impress Jody Foster. And I remember having a disagreement
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: with popat who has since gone cuckoo for coca puffs
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: on Twitter when he said, well, of course this is
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: perfectly legitimate and stuff.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 53:44
  Speaker 9: I think you take a shot at a president. I
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: think you know, like you you shouldn't come out of
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: jails correspondence dinner.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry, am I am?
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: I making dracpony in for for feeling that way.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: No, I think you're right. And when I asked Ruth Marcus,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I mutual friend, about this, and she said, that's way
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: too low. The four years for the pizza ping pong
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and there both need to be a long time. She's
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: right now speaking of cuckoo for cocoa pops. Graham Platner
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: is going to run against the most moderate Centrist senator
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: in the United States, Susan Collins. Now, I spend the
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: time in Maine every summer. My brother in law's lived
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: there for thirty years. I'm a freeloader and I love Maine,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: and I love Susan Collins. I think she is perfect
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: for a purple state. And she's chaired of appropriation and
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: she normal, I mean, she liked the most normal person. Ever,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: what percentage should Graham Platner actually get if people in
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Maine consider the implications of their vote.
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: What percent?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you nine nine.
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: I have several updates in the light of the fact
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: that Janet Mills, the governor, has time on from the rank.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: That's going to go right over the Steelers' heads. If
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: they didn't watch Hogan's Heroes growing up, they're not going
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: to get that. No, okay, people.
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: Gonna think it's a Herb and Caine bit, and no, no,
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: this is a this is a Nazi bit, and you're
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: about to get a lot of them because Hugh I
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: was disappointed to see that Jen and Mills fell like
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: the magical line. This is the most surprising surrender I've
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: seen since the fall of Paris. I have I have
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: really bad news.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: We've already seen in.
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: Advance of the Platiner forces into Poland, Maine. There is
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: a town called Poland, Maine, by the way, So this
• 55:34
  Speaker 9: was a blitzkerk attack.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: It was very fast moving.
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: And now it's going to switch to the air war
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: television commercials is what I mean, of course. But my
• 55:41
  Speaker 9: guess is you're just going to see Platner volunteers just
• 55:45
  Speaker 9: basically parachuting into every town and kind of like storming
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: across to occupy because he and his movement they need
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: leaves from they need breathing a room, So.
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  Speaker 10: Okay in reality references, I hope if people vote.
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  Speaker 1: Platner, they are telling me they're nuts. They are telling
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  Speaker 1: me they don't know any about American politics. Nazis a
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  Speaker 1: Nazi because Nazi and I haven't seen it. The tattoo's gone.
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  Speaker 1: But don't you agree he's so out for It's like
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  Speaker 1: Christine O'Donnell. I am not a witch, only ten times
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  Speaker 1: worse because he's anti Semitic.
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  Speaker 9: I'm gonna observe because there are a couple of people
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  Speaker 9: are like, Jim, isn't that mean he covered up the
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  Speaker 9: tattoos so he's not a Nazi anymore. I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 9: first of all, we all know what the you know
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: what a pirate flag looks like. We all know what
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: the skull from skeletor looks like. We all know what
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: you know this deal was the If you've ever seen
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: Indiana Jones movie, if you've ever seen a World War
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: two movie, you have seen this skull. It is the
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  Speaker 9: one that was on the caps of the s s.
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  Speaker 9: If you've ever seen the British sketch, are we the batties.
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  Speaker 9: We have schools on our caps. This is the skull
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  Speaker 9: right he has gotten. He's oh, I was in the Balkans.
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  Speaker 9: I was out drinking with buddies and I got this look.
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  Speaker 9: Nobody accidentally gets the s S totein cough tattooed on
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  Speaker 9: their chest. And the part that really bugs me is
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  Speaker 9: that he had it for eighteen years. In the interim,
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  Speaker 9: people have written profiles about him. The New York are
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  Speaker 9: talking about what a military history buff he is. What
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  Speaker 9: really which military history and which force? I'm just kind
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: of curious which one.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my question.
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  Speaker 9: But he never recognized that one. And you know, and
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  Speaker 9: then oh because now for us, his former staffers have
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  Speaker 9: said they know it. There are people who told the
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: Jewish Insider newsletter that that they you know, he used
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: to call it my tote and cough. This guy was
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: at minimum Nazi curious.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're not curious, let's just assume all that. Hugh.
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  Speaker 9: I know these comments are going to raise.
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  Speaker 10: A funor no they're not. Oh that's so bad. Oh
• 57:47
  Speaker 10: that's so bad. Uh, you know you're pretty good at this.
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: Have you ever done stand up?
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah?
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  Speaker 9: Actually, by my stand up is I'm go an sit
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: down comic, Hugh. It's our audiences who I say.
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  Speaker 1: Given that Platner is quite obviously anti Semitic, and I
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: believe anti Israel and probably anti Western and a socialist
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and a communist, whatever you want to think he is,
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  Speaker 1: we have one minute. Should anyone in Maine vote for him?
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  Speaker 1: I think he's so outside of the mainstream you have
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: to be out, you have to be cuckoo for cocop
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  Speaker 1: obs to vote for him. You get forty five seconds.
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  Speaker 9: Sure, Look, he's going to try to act normal. He
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: likes to talk up public transportation and his argument that
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: Maine needs more lines from Amtrak. So I don't know
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: about you, Hugh, but when this guy says I want
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: to put more people on trains, not it's a trap.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do it. You're gonna be hard to talk to
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: for the next Do you think Susan Collins wins.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, she won last time. She always outdoes her polls.
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  Speaker 9: I think she's gonna be fine. If she does not,
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: we're gonna be in real.
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  Speaker 5: Trouble for you.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be in real trouble. Susancollins dot com America
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: go and help her out. Jim Garretty can be found
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: on Exit, Jim Gartty in The Washington Post, at the
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: National Review, at the Three Martini Lunch podcast, at The
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Editor podcast