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- 0:00Speaker 1: Preface to the extant works of Saint Pasian of Barcelona.
- 0:07Speaker 1: This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in
- 0:10Speaker 1: the public domain. For more information or to volunteer, please
- 0:14Speaker 1: visit LibriVox dot org. The works of Saint Pasian, which
- 0:20Speaker 1: have been here subjoined, as they are kindred in subject,
- 0:24Speaker 1: so may they be, in some sort regarded as further
- 0:27Speaker 1: fruits of the mind of Saint Cyprian, whose writings Saint
- 0:30Speaker 1: Passian quotes with reverence, and from whom he seems to
- 0:34Speaker 1: have derived some of the texts. He employs his citations,
- 0:37Speaker 1: agreeing verbally also sometimes with Saint Cyprian. Of his life,
- 0:42Speaker 1: all which is known is contained in the few words
- 0:44Speaker 1: of Saint Jerome, who dedicated his book De Viris Illustribus
- 0:48Speaker 1: to his son Dexter, a prefect of the Praetorium, and
- 0:52Speaker 1: his own friend, at whose suggestion it was written. Passian,
- 0:57Speaker 1: Bishop of Barcelona, in the pynes of chastened eloquence, eminent
- 1:02Speaker 1: for his life as for his writings, wrote various works
- 1:05Speaker 1: of which is the service and against the Novationans. He
- 1:09Speaker 1: died lately in the reign of Theodosius, in extreme Old
- 1:13Speaker 1: age I before AD three nine two, in which the
- 1:18Speaker 1: fourteenth of Theodosius, Saint Jerome wrote this book preface. He
- 1:22Speaker 1: was born then, probably about thirty years after the martyrdom
- 1:25Speaker 1: of Saint Cyprion, was a younger contemporary of Hosius, and
- 1:29Speaker 1: through him joined on to the Council of Elberus and
- 1:33Speaker 1: the restoration of discipline in the Spanish Church. His memory
- 1:37Speaker 1: was kept with great affection at Barcelona on May the ninth,
- 1:41Speaker 1: on which he is commemorated in the Martyrologium Romanum. In
- 1:45Speaker 1: words taken from Saint Jerome, it is of the good
- 1:48Speaker 1: providence of God that of the same father works should
- 1:51Speaker 1: have come down, vindicating the doctrine of the Church on
- 1:54Speaker 1: penitence as a doctrine against the heresy of novation, practically
- 1:58Speaker 1: against the neglect of careless. The epistles to Simpronian and
- 2:04Speaker 1: Exhortation to Penitence combine show how compatible our tenderness to
- 2:08Speaker 1: the sinner with a strict and as it would now seem,
- 2:12Speaker 1: severe doctrine of penitence that not ernest calls to a
- 2:15Speaker 1: self avenging and self chastening penitence, but the denial of
- 2:19Speaker 1: its fruits and the power of the keys is the
- 2:22Speaker 1: essence of Novationanism, well versed as Simpassion was in the
- 2:26Speaker 1: writings of Saint Cyprian, who also insists on the same
- 2:30Speaker 1: acts of penitence. His language approaches more both in style
- 2:34Speaker 1: and vividness of expostulation, to that of Titalian, whose work
- 2:38Speaker 1: on penitence he claims as having been written by him
- 2:41Speaker 1: while a Catholic. It is hoped that from this very
- 2:45Speaker 1: combination his works might be useful in these days in which,
- 2:48Speaker 1: for want of that more frequent special application of the
- 2:50Speaker 1: power of the keys which our Church suggests, any mention
- 2:54Speaker 1: of more earnest penitence is thought to partake of the
- 2:57Speaker 1: hard and uncompassionating heresy of Novation. It remains to add
- 3:02Speaker 1: that for the translation and the basis of the index
- 3:05Speaker 1: of Saint Cyprian, the editors are indebted to the Reverend H. Carey,
- 3:10Speaker 1: Master of Arts of Worcester College, and for Saint Pasian,
- 3:13Speaker 1: with the index to the Reverend C. H. Collins, Master
- 3:17Speaker 1: of Arts, Student of Christ Church. For Saint Cyprian, the
- 3:21Speaker 1: Benedictine text has been adopted, except in some few cases
- 3:25Speaker 1: which have been noticed in which that of Bishop Fell
- 3:28Speaker 1: seemed preferable for Saintpasian. The very valuable readings noted in
- 3:32Speaker 1: the margin of the edition of Cardinal Aguas from a
- 3:35Speaker 1: Vatican manuscript of the ninth century, formerly belonging to the
- 3:38Speaker 1: Queen of Sweden, have been employed. Almost all its readings
- 3:42Speaker 1: are improvements of the text. Many places they clear up
- 3:45Speaker 1: in which the meaning was altogether obscured. They are marked
- 3:48Speaker 1: in the margin as V or Vat some collations on
- 3:51Speaker 1: the margin of the edition par fifteen thirty eight. Guillard
- 3:55Speaker 1: in the Bodealayan, derived from a manuscript in the Royal
- 3:58Speaker 1: Library at Paris, the source of which doctor Bandonell kindly
- 4:02Speaker 1: pointed out to the editor, have also been used. The manuscript,
- 4:06Speaker 1: although a late one, in several places, agrees with the
- 4:09Speaker 1: Vatican manuscript. They are marked r. The editions were also
- 4:14Speaker 1: consulted for the editor by mister Collins. The collations of
- 4:18Speaker 1: the Vatican manuscript are wanting on the De Baptismo, but
- 4:22Speaker 1: neither had the text the same difficulty. E. B. P
- 4:26Speaker 1: Ember Week after Whitsunday, eighteen forty four. End of preface,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Section one of the extant works of Saint Passion of Barcelona,
- 4:44Speaker 1: translated by Charles Henry Collins. This LibriVox recording is in
- 4:49Speaker 1: the public domain. Epistle one of the Catholic Name Passion
- 4:56Speaker 1: to Simpronian, his brother, greeting, if it be not a
- 5:01Speaker 1: carnal intention, my Lord, but as I judge, a calling
- 5:04Speaker 1: of the spirit, that thou inquirest of us the faith
- 5:07Speaker 1: of the Catholic verity. Thou, before all tolding thy rise
- 5:12Speaker 1: as far as appears from a streamlet at a distance,
- 5:14Speaker 1: and not holding to the fountain and source of the
- 5:17Speaker 1: principal Church, shouldst, in the first instance, have shown what
- 5:21Speaker 1: or how different are the opinions which thou followest. Thou
- 5:24Speaker 1: shouldst unfold thyself as to what cause, more particularly, had
- 5:28Speaker 1: loosened thee from the unity of our body, for those
- 5:31Speaker 1: parts for which a remedy assort should be laid bare. Whereas, now,
- 5:36Speaker 1: if I may so say, the bosom of correspondence being closed,
- 5:40Speaker 1: we see not on what members. More especially, we have
- 5:44Speaker 1: to bestow our care, for such are the heresies which
- 5:47Speaker 1: have sprung forth from the Christian head, that of the
- 5:50Speaker 1: mere names. The role would be immense, for to pass
- 5:53Speaker 1: over the heretics of the Jews. Dosotheus, the Samaritan, the Sadducees,
- 5:57Speaker 1: and the Pharisees. It were not long to enumerate how
- 6:01Speaker 1: many grew up in the times of the Apostles Simon,
- 6:04Speaker 1: Magus and Bander, and Nicolaus and others hidden by an
- 6:08Speaker 1: inglorious fame. What again, in later times were Ebian and Apolis,
- 6:12Speaker 1: and Marcian, and Valentinus and Serdan, and not long after
- 6:16Speaker 1: them the Cataphrygians and Novations. Not to notice any recent swarms, whom, then,
- 6:22Speaker 1: in my letters must I first refute, wouldst thou the
- 6:25Speaker 1: mere names of all my paper will not contain them,
- 6:28Speaker 1: unless indeed by your writings every way condemnatory of Penance,
- 6:31Speaker 1: who declare your agreement with the Phrygians. But most illustrious Lord,
- 6:36Speaker 1: so manifold and so diverse is the error of these
- 6:39Speaker 1: very men, that in them we have not only to
- 6:42Speaker 1: overthrow their peculiar fancies against Penance, but to cut off
- 6:46Speaker 1: the heads, as it were, of some learning and monster.
- 6:48Speaker 1: And in the first place they rely on more founders
- 6:50Speaker 1: than one. For I suppose Blastus the Greek is of them.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Theodotus also and Praxius were once teachers of your party themselves,
- 6:59Speaker 1: also Phrygians of us. Some celebrity who falsely say they
- 7:02Speaker 1: are inspired of Leucius, boast that they are instructed by Proculus.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Following Montonus and Maximilla and Priscilla. How manifold controversies have
- 7:12Speaker 1: they raised concerning the day of Easter, the paraclet, apostles, prophets,
- 7:16Speaker 1: and many other disputes as this, also concerning the Catholic name,
- 7:19Speaker 1: the pardon of penance. Wherefore, if we would discuss all
- 7:24Speaker 1: these points, thou hadst need been present and teachable. But
- 7:28Speaker 1: if on those points merely on which Thou writest, my
- 7:30Speaker 1: instruction should not be sufficiently full. Yet, as it is
- 7:34Speaker 1: our duty to serve in whatsoever way we can those
- 7:37Speaker 1: who solemnly adjure us, we now, for the sake of
- 7:39Speaker 1: informing you discourse with thee summarily on those matters about
- 7:42Speaker 1: which thou hast deigned to write to us. If thou
- 7:46Speaker 1: wouldst have fuller knowledge on our side, Thou must on
- 7:49Speaker 1: thine declare thyself more unreservedly, lest by somewhat of obscurity
- 7:54Speaker 1: in thy inquiries, thou leave us uncertain whether thou art
- 7:57Speaker 1: consulting or censuring. Meanwhile, and this concerns our present correspondence,
- 8:03Speaker 1: I would above all entreat Thee not to borrow authority
- 8:06Speaker 1: for error from this very fact, that, as thou sayest,
- 8:09Speaker 1: throughout the whole world, no one has been found who
- 8:11Speaker 1: could convince or persuade Thee, contrary to what thou believest.
- 8:16Speaker 1: For although we be unskilled, most skillful is the spirit
- 8:19Speaker 1: of God. And if we are faithless, faithful is God,
- 8:22Speaker 1: who cannot deny himself. Then also because it was not
- 8:26Speaker 1: allowed the priests of God to contend long with one
- 8:29Speaker 1: who resisted, we says the apostle have no such custom,
- 8:33Speaker 1: neither the churches of God. After one admonition. As though
- 8:36Speaker 1: thyself knowest, the contentious is passed by. For who can
- 8:41Speaker 1: persuade any of anything against his will? Thine own fault?
- 8:44Speaker 1: Was it? Therefore, Brother, and not theirs? If no one
- 8:47Speaker 1: convince Thee of what in itself is most excellent. For
- 8:51Speaker 1: at this day too, it is in thy power to
- 8:54Speaker 1: despise our writings. Also, if thou hadst rather refute than
- 8:58Speaker 1: approve them, yet many resisted, both the Lord himself and
- 9:01Speaker 1: the apostles. Nor could any ever be persuaded of the
- 9:04Speaker 1: truth unless he consented to it by his own religious feeling. Therefore,
- 9:10Speaker 1: my Lord, neither have We written with that confidence, as
- 9:13Speaker 1: though we could persuade THEE if thou resistest, but in
- 9:16Speaker 1: that faith by which we would not deny thee an
- 9:19Speaker 1: entrance to holy peace, if thou wilst which peace, if
- 9:22Speaker 1: it be after thine own soul and heart, there ought
- 9:24Speaker 1: to be no contest about the name of Catholic. For
- 9:28Speaker 1: if it is through God that our people obtain this name,
- 9:32Speaker 1: no question is to be raised. When divine authority is followed.
- 9:36Speaker 1: If through man you must discover when it was first taken,
- 9:40Speaker 1: then if the name is good, no odium rests with it.
- 9:43Speaker 1: If ill it need not be envied. The Novationans I
- 9:47Speaker 1: hear are called after Novatus or Novation. Yet it is
- 9:51Speaker 1: the sect which I accuse in them, not the name.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Nor has anyone objected their name to Montanus or the Phrygians.
- 9:58Speaker 1: But under the Apostles, you will say no one was
- 10:01Speaker 1: called Catholic. Be it. Thus it shall have been so allow,
- 10:05Speaker 1: even that, when after the Apostles, heresies had burst forth
- 10:09Speaker 1: and were striving under various names, to tear piecemeal and
- 10:12Speaker 1: divide the Dove and the Queen of God, did not
- 10:15Speaker 1: the Apostolic people require a name of their own. Whereby
- 10:19Speaker 1: to mark the unity of the people that were uncorrupted,
- 10:21Speaker 1: lest the error of some should rend limb by limb
- 10:24Speaker 1: the undefiled Virgin of God. Was it not seemly that
- 10:28Speaker 1: the chief head should be distinguished by its own peculiar appellation?
- 10:33Speaker 1: Suppose this very day I entered a popular city, when
- 10:36Speaker 1: I had found Marsianites, Apollinarians, Cataphrygians, Norvasians, and others of
- 10:42Speaker 1: the kind who call themselves Christians. By what name should
- 10:45Speaker 1: I recognize the congregation of my own people unless it
- 10:47Speaker 1: were named Catholic? Come tell me who bestowed so many
- 10:52Speaker 1: names on the other peoples. Why have so many cities,
- 10:55Speaker 1: so many nations, each their own description. The man who
- 10:59Speaker 1: asks the meaning of the Catholic name, will he be
- 11:02Speaker 1: ignorant himself of the cause of his own name? If
- 11:05Speaker 1: I shall inquire its origin? Whence was it delivered to me? Certainly,
- 11:09Speaker 1: that which has stood through so many ages was not
- 11:11Speaker 1: borrowed from man. This name Catholic sounds not of Marcian,
- 11:16Speaker 1: nor of Appellus, nor of Montanus, nor does it take
- 11:19Speaker 1: heretics as its authors. Many things the Holy Spirit hath
- 11:24Speaker 1: taught us, whom God sent from heaven to the apostles
- 11:26Speaker 1: as their comforter and guide many things. Reason teaches us
- 11:30Speaker 1: as Paul saith and honesty, and as he says nature herself.
- 11:35Speaker 1: What is the authority of apostolic men, of primitive priests,
- 11:39Speaker 1: of the most blessed martyr and doctor Cyprian of slight weight?
- 11:43Speaker 1: With us? Do we wish to teach the teacher? Are
- 11:46Speaker 1: we wiser than he was? And are we puffed up
- 11:49Speaker 1: by the spirit of the flesh against the man whom,
- 11:52Speaker 1: his noble shedding of blood and a crown of most
- 11:54Speaker 1: glorious suffering, have set forth as a witness of the
- 11:57Speaker 1: eternal God. What thinkest thou of so many priests on
- 12:01Speaker 1: this same side, who, throughout the whole world were compacted
- 12:04Speaker 1: together in one bond of peace with this same Cyprian?
- 12:08Speaker 1: What of so many aged bishops, so many martyrs, so
- 12:12Speaker 1: many confessors? Come say, if they were not sufficient authorities
- 12:16Speaker 1: for the use of this name, are we sufficient for
- 12:19Speaker 1: its rejection? And shall the fathers rather follow our authority?
- 12:23Speaker 1: And the antiquity of saints give way to be amended
- 12:25Speaker 1: by us? And times now putrefying through their sins, pluck
- 12:29Speaker 1: out the gray hairs of Apostolic age and yet my
- 12:33Speaker 1: brother be not troubled. Christian is my name, but Catholic
- 12:35Speaker 1: my surname. The former gives me a name, the latter
- 12:38Speaker 1: distinguishes me. By the one I am approved, by the other,
- 12:42Speaker 1: I am but marked. And if at last we must
- 12:45Speaker 1: give an account of the word catholic and draw it
- 12:48Speaker 1: out from the Greek by a Latin interpretation, Catholic is
- 12:53Speaker 1: everywhere one, or as learned men think, obedience in all
- 12:57Speaker 1: i e. All the commands of God. Whence the apostle,
- 13:01Speaker 1: whether ye be obedient in all things? And again, for
- 13:04Speaker 1: as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so
- 13:08Speaker 1: by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. Therefore,
- 13:11Speaker 1: he who is a Catholic, the same man is obedient.
- 13:15Speaker 1: He who is obedient the same as a Christian. And
- 13:17Speaker 1: thus the Catholic is a Christian. Wherefore our people, when
- 13:21Speaker 1: named Catholic, are separated by this appellation from the heretical name.
- 13:25Speaker 1: But if also the word Catholic means everywhere one, as
- 13:29Speaker 1: those first think, David indicates this very thing when he
- 13:32Speaker 1: saith the queen did stand in a vesture of gold
- 13:34Speaker 1: wrought about with diverse colours. That is one amidst all,
- 13:39Speaker 1: and in the song of songs, the bridegroom speaketh these words,
- 13:42Speaker 1: My dove, my undefiled, is but one. She is the
- 13:45Speaker 1: only one of her mother. She is the choice one
- 13:48Speaker 1: of her that bear her again. It is written the
- 13:50Speaker 1: virgins shall be brought unto the King after her, and
- 13:53Speaker 1: further virgins without number. Therefore, amidst all, she is one
- 13:58Speaker 1: and one over all. If thou askst the reason of
- 14:01Speaker 1: the name, it is evident. But as to penance, God
- 14:06Speaker 1: grant that it may be necessary for none of the faithful,
- 14:09Speaker 1: that none, after the help of the sacred font, may
- 14:12Speaker 1: fall into the pit of death, and that priests may
- 14:15Speaker 1: not be compelled to inculcate or to teach its tardy consolations.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Lest whilst by remedies they soothe the sinner, they open
- 14:22Speaker 1: a road to sin. But we lay open this indulgence
- 14:26Speaker 1: of our God to the miserable, not to the happy,
- 14:28Speaker 1: not before sin, but after sins. Nor do we announce
- 14:32Speaker 1: a medicine to the whole, but to the sick. If
- 14:35Speaker 1: spiritual wickednesses have no power over the baptized, none that
- 14:39Speaker 1: fraud of the serpent which subverted the first man, which
- 14:42Speaker 1: hath printed on his posterity, so many marks of condemnation.
- 14:46Speaker 1: If it hath retired from the world, if we have
- 14:49Speaker 1: already begun to reign, If no crime steals over our eyes,
- 14:52Speaker 1: none over our hands, none over our minds, then let
- 14:55Speaker 1: this gift of God be cast aside, this help rejected,
- 14:59Speaker 1: be no can feshion, no groans heard. Let a proud
- 15:02Speaker 1: righteousness despise every remedy. But if the Lord himself hath
- 15:07Speaker 1: provided these things for his own creature, man, if the
- 15:10Speaker 1: same Lord who hath bestowed remedies on the fallen, hath
- 15:13Speaker 1: given rewards to them that stand cease to accuse the
- 15:16Speaker 1: divine goodness to erase by the interposition of your own
- 15:19Speaker 1: rigor so many inscriptions of heavenly mercy, or by inexorable
- 15:24Speaker 1: harshness to prohibit the gratuitous good gifts of the Lord.
- 15:27Speaker 1: This is not a largesse from our own bounty. Turn
- 15:30Speaker 1: ye saith a Lord, even to me, And with fasting,
- 15:33Speaker 1: and with weeping, and with mourning, and rend your heart.
- 15:36Speaker 1: And again, let the wicked man leave his ways and
- 15:38Speaker 1: the unrighteous man his thoughts, and turn unto the Lord,
- 15:41Speaker 1: and he shall obtain mercy. And also after this manner,
- 15:45Speaker 1: crieth the prophet, for he is gracious and merciful, slow
- 15:49Speaker 1: to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him of
- 15:52Speaker 1: the evil. Hath the serpents so lasting a poison, and
- 15:56Speaker 1: hath not Christ a remedy? Doth the devil kill in
- 15:59Speaker 1: the world? And hath Christ no power here to help?
- 16:02Speaker 1: Be we indeed ashamed to sin, but not a shame
- 16:05Speaker 1: to repent. Be we ashamed to hazard ourselves, but not
- 16:08Speaker 1: a shame to be delivered. Who will snatch the plank
- 16:11Speaker 1: from the shipwrecked that he escaped? Not? Who will grudge
- 16:14Speaker 1: the curing of a wound? Doth not David say? Every
- 16:17Speaker 1: night I will wash my bed, I will water my
- 16:19Speaker 1: couch with my tears. And again I acknowledge my sin
- 16:23Speaker 1: and mine unrighteousness? Have I not hid? And yet more
- 16:26Speaker 1: I said, I will confess my sins unto the Lord,
- 16:29Speaker 1: And so thou forgavest the wickedness of my heart. Did
- 16:33Speaker 1: not the prophet answer him, when, after the guilt of
- 16:35Speaker 1: murder and adultery, penitent for Bathsheba, the Lord also hath
- 16:39Speaker 1: put away from thee thy sin, did not confession deliver
- 16:43Speaker 1: the King of Babylon when condemned after so many sins
- 16:45Speaker 1: of idolatry. And what is it that the Lord saith,
- 16:48Speaker 1: Shall he who has fallen not arise, and he who
- 16:51Speaker 1: has turned not return? What answer give the subjects of
- 16:55Speaker 1: those many parables of our Lord? That the woman findeth
- 16:58Speaker 1: the coin and rejoiceth when she hath found it, that
- 17:01Speaker 1: the shepherd carrieth back the wandering sheep, that when the
- 17:05Speaker 1: sun was returning, all his goods wasted in riotous living
- 17:08Speaker 1: with harlots and funicators. The Father, with kindness met him,
- 17:12Speaker 1: and assigning the grounds, chideth the envious brother, saying this,
- 17:16Speaker 1: my son was dead and is alive again, was lost
- 17:18Speaker 1: and is found. What of him who was wounded in
- 17:21Speaker 1: the way whom levite and priests pass by, is he
- 17:24Speaker 1: not taken care of? Ponder what the Spirit saith to
- 17:29Speaker 1: the churches. The Ephesians he accuses of having forsaken their
- 17:32Speaker 1: love to them of Thiatyra, he imputeth fornication. The people
- 17:36Speaker 1: of Sardus he blameth as loitering in the work, those
- 17:39Speaker 1: of Pergamus, as teaching things contrary of the Laodiceans. He
- 17:43Speaker 1: brandeth the riches. And yet he calleth all to penance
- 17:46Speaker 1: and to satisfaction. What meaneth the Apostle when he writeth
- 17:50Speaker 1: to the Corinthians thus, lest when I come, I bewail
- 17:53Speaker 1: many which have sinned already and have not repented of
- 17:56Speaker 1: the uncleanness and fornication and laviciousness which they have omit it?
- 18:01Speaker 1: What when again, to the Galatians, if a man be
- 18:03Speaker 1: overtaken in a fault, I any whatever ye who are spiritual,
- 18:07Speaker 1: restores such an one in the spirit of meekness, considering
- 18:11Speaker 1: thyself lest thou also be tempted? Does then the master
- 18:15Speaker 1: of the family in a large house guard only the
- 18:17Speaker 1: silver and golden vessels? Does he not deign to guard
- 18:20Speaker 1: both the earthen and the wooden, and some that are
- 18:23Speaker 1: put together and repaired? Now I rejoice, saith the Apostle
- 18:27Speaker 1: that he sorrowed to repentance, and again for godly sorrow
- 18:31Speaker 1: worketh repentance unto enduring salvation. But penitence, who say was
- 18:36Speaker 1: not allowed. No one enjoins a fruitless labour, for the
- 18:39Speaker 1: laborer is worthy of his hire. Never would God threaten
- 18:42Speaker 1: the impenitent unless he would pardon the penitent. This you
- 18:46Speaker 1: will say God alone can do. It is true, But
- 18:49Speaker 1: that also, which he does through his priests is his
- 18:52Speaker 1: own authority. Else, what is that which he saith to
- 18:55Speaker 1: the apostles. Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be
- 18:59Speaker 1: bound in heaven, And whatsoever ye shall loose on earth
- 19:02Speaker 1: shall be loosed in heaven. Why said he this? If
- 19:05Speaker 1: it was not lawful for men to bind and loose?
- 19:07Speaker 1: Is this allowed to apostles only? Then? To them? Also
- 19:10Speaker 1: only is it allowed to back ties, and to them
- 19:13Speaker 1: only to give the Holy Spirit, And to them only
- 19:15Speaker 1: to cleanse the sins of the nations. For all this
- 19:18Speaker 1: was enjoined on none others but apostles. But if both
- 19:23Speaker 1: the loosening of bonds and the power of sacrament are
- 19:26Speaker 1: given in one place, either the whole has been derived
- 19:28Speaker 1: to us from the apostolic form and authority, or else
- 19:31Speaker 1: not even this relaxation has been made from the decree.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I he saith have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon.
- 19:39Speaker 1: This therefore we build up which the doctrine of the
- 19:41Speaker 1: apostles laid as the foundation. And lastly, bishops also are
- 19:45Speaker 1: named apostles as saith. Paul of apaphroditis my brother and
- 19:49Speaker 1: fellow soldier. But your apostle, if Therefore the power of
- 19:53Speaker 1: the laver and of the anointing gifts far greater descended
- 19:58Speaker 1: thence to bishops. Then the right of binding and of
- 20:00Speaker 1: loosing was with them, which although for our sins it
- 20:03Speaker 1: be presumptuous in us to claim. Yet, God, who hath
- 20:06Speaker 1: granted unto bishops the name even of his only beloved,
- 20:09Speaker 1: will not deny it unto them. As if wholly in
- 20:12Speaker 1: sitting in the chair of the apostles, I would write more, Brother,
- 20:16Speaker 1: were I not pressed by the hasty return of the servant,
- 20:19Speaker 1: and were I not reserving a fuller account for the
- 20:21Speaker 1: when either present or making confession of thy whole purport.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Let no one despise the bishop on consideration of the man.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Let us remember that the apostle Peter hath named our
- 20:31Speaker 1: lord Bishop. But are now he saith returned unto the
- 20:36Speaker 1: Shepherd and Bishop of your souls? What shall be denied
- 20:39Speaker 1: to the bishop in whom operateth the name of God?
- 20:42Speaker 1: He shall indeed give an account if he have done
- 20:45Speaker 1: anything wrong, or if he shall have judged corrupt and
- 20:49Speaker 1: unrighteous judgment. Nor is God's judgment forestalled, but that he
- 20:53Speaker 1: may undo the work of a wicked builder in the Meanwhile,
- 20:57Speaker 1: if that his ministration be wholly, he abideth as an
- 21:00Speaker 1: helper in the work of God. See the Apostle writeth
- 21:04Speaker 1: to laity, to whom ye forgive anything, I forgive. Also,
- 21:08Speaker 1: for if I forgave anything to whom I forgave it
- 21:11Speaker 1: for your sakes, forgave I it in the person of Christ.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Lest Satan should get an advantage of us, for we
- 21:17Speaker 1: are not ignorant of his devices. But if what the
- 21:20Speaker 1: laity forgive, the Apostle saith that he hath forgiven what
- 21:24Speaker 1: a bishop hath done in what character can be rejected. Therefore,
- 21:28Speaker 1: neither the anointing, nor baptism, nor remission of sins, nor
- 21:31Speaker 1: the renewing of the body were granted to his sacred authority,
- 21:34Speaker 1: because nothing was entrusted to him, as assumed by himself.
- 21:38Speaker 1: But the whole has descended in a stream from the
- 21:40Speaker 1: apostolic privilege. No brother, that not indiscriminately to all, is
- 21:45Speaker 1: this very pardon through penance granted. Nor until there shall
- 21:49Speaker 1: have been either some indication of the divine will, or
- 21:52Speaker 1: perchance some visitation, may men be loosed that with careful
- 21:56Speaker 1: pondering and much balancing, after many groans, and much shedding
- 21:59Speaker 1: of tears after the prayers of the whole church. Pardon
- 22:03Speaker 1: is in such wise not refused to true penitence, as
- 22:07Speaker 1: that no one thereby prejudgeth the future judgment of Christ.
- 22:11Speaker 1: If brother, thou wouldst write thy sentiments more openly, thou
- 22:14Speaker 1: shalt be more fully instructed. End of section one Section
- 22:25Speaker 1: two of the Extant Works of Saint Passion of Barcelona,
- 22:30Speaker 1: translated by Charles Henry Collins. This LibriVox recording is in
- 22:35Speaker 1: the public domain. Epistle two concerning Novation's letter Passion the
- 22:42Speaker 1: Bishop to Simpronian his brother, greeting on a prolix question,
- 22:47Speaker 1: I will, as far as I can seek brevity, nor
- 22:50Speaker 1: will I brother make thee any return of evil, although
- 22:54Speaker 1: under plea of fair questioning, casting and directing at me
- 22:58Speaker 1: hidden arrows in thy speech of thine own framing, we
- 23:02Speaker 1: are bidden to pray for those that persecute us, and
- 23:05Speaker 1: to bless those who curse us. Deceit belongeth as it
- 23:08Speaker 1: were to the fox. Violence to the lion. Either is
- 23:12Speaker 1: most alien from the nature of men, but deceit is
- 23:15Speaker 1: deservedly the most odious. For whereas thou deemest, thou art
- 23:19Speaker 1: best informed. Thou questionest as if ignorant, When thou thinkest
- 23:24Speaker 1: that thou art teaching, thou pretendest to be taught. The
- 23:27Speaker 1: Pharisees of old were wont to call the Lord Rabbi
- 23:30Speaker 1: when they were setting before him ambiguous questions of the
- 23:33Speaker 1: law they entitle him master, when they would claim all
- 23:37Speaker 1: mastery for themselves. But do what thou wilt, brother, Thou
- 23:41Speaker 1: shalt hear all in return from me without guile. I
- 23:44Speaker 1: had rather be thought unskillful than malicious. I had rather
- 23:49Speaker 1: be judged foolish than crafty. Wherefore, before I assign the
- 23:53Speaker 1: grounds of our faith, about which thou art anxious, hear
- 23:57Speaker 1: a few words on your letter, which you put as
- 24:00Speaker 1: a front to your treatise. You say that you were
- 24:03Speaker 1: refreshed by our former epistle, and then straightway add that
- 24:06Speaker 1: my answer was couched in bitter terms. If bitter things refresh,
- 24:10Speaker 1: I know not what would be the effect of sweet,
- 24:13Speaker 1: unless it be that, as in a draft of medicine,
- 24:16Speaker 1: what is bitter is wont to cure more than what
- 24:18Speaker 1: is sweet. But I beg look again at my letters
- 24:22Speaker 1: and see whether they are at all sprinkled with gall
- 24:25Speaker 1: What there was haughty what unsweet In my answer, thou
- 24:30Speaker 1: sayest that I named many heresies about which no one inquired, Well,
- 24:35Speaker 1: how did this affect THEE? If thou wert not an heretic,
- 24:39Speaker 1: you raised a question concerning our faith and said that
- 24:41Speaker 1: you wished for instruction. I wrote that the causes of
- 24:44Speaker 1: ignorance were manifold, in order that you might show which
- 24:47Speaker 1: one especially had influence on you. To save perplexity in
- 24:51Speaker 1: opening a large number on the name Catholic, I answered
- 24:55Speaker 1: fully and with calmness, For I said that it mattered
- 24:59Speaker 1: to neither what the other was called. And if you
- 25:01Speaker 1: demanded the meaning of the name, I said that whatever
- 25:04Speaker 1: it might be, it was wonderful, whether it was one
- 25:07Speaker 1: in all or one over all, or an interpretation which
- 25:11Speaker 1: I have not mentioned before the King's son, that is
- 25:14Speaker 1: the Christian people. Certainly too, there was no accessory name
- 25:19Speaker 1: which endured through so many ages. And indeed I am
- 25:23Speaker 1: glad for THEE that, although thou mayst have preferred others,
- 25:26Speaker 1: yet thou agreest that the name attaches to us? What
- 25:29Speaker 1: should you deny? Nature would cry out, But and if
- 25:33Speaker 1: you still have doubts, let us hold our peace. We
- 25:36Speaker 1: will both be that which we shall be named. Witness
- 25:39Speaker 1: the antiquity of the name. If, however, thou perseverest in asking,
- 25:43Speaker 1: beware lest that man of might exclaim, Why askest thou
- 25:47Speaker 1: thus after my name? Seeing it is wonderful? I next
- 25:52Speaker 1: added that we need not consider whence Catholics derived this name,
- 25:56Speaker 1: because neither was it wont to be any imputation against
- 25:58Speaker 1: the Valentinians if they were called after Valentinus, nor the Phrygians,
- 26:02Speaker 1: if from Phrygia, nor the Novations. If after Novation at
- 26:07Speaker 1: this you are grievously excited, and rouse yourself as if
- 26:10Speaker 1: pierced with a sting, For in your wrath you thus exclaim.
- 26:14Speaker 1: Is it ever any objection to that holy man Cyprian
- 26:17Speaker 1: that his people bear the name of Apostaticum, Capitolinum, or Syndrium,
- 26:23Speaker 1: Thou revilest, But lo I am not moved. Have we
- 26:26Speaker 1: been called by any of these names? Ask a century brother,
- 26:30Speaker 1: and all its years in succession, whether this name has
- 26:33Speaker 1: adhered to us, Whether the people of Cyprian have been
- 26:37Speaker 1: called other than Catholic, No one of these names have
- 26:40Speaker 1: I ever heard. Consider now, if a man can be
- 26:43Speaker 1: called by a name which he knows not to have
- 26:45Speaker 1: been given him? What then, these are taunts, not names,
- 26:49Speaker 1: and taunts of the angry, taunts of the petulant. I
- 26:52Speaker 1: too could call you by as many names as you will,
- 26:56Speaker 1: were it lawful to be angry, callest thou Cyprian wholly,
- 26:59Speaker 1: and his people apostasizing. How So, if the first fruit beholdy,
- 27:04Speaker 1: the lump is also holy, and if the root be wholly,
- 27:07Speaker 1: so are the branches. Am I apostate or Novatus, I
- 27:12Speaker 1: I say, or Novatus who forsook his father, abandoned the
- 27:15Speaker 1: church and caused his wife to miscarry, Am I apostate
- 27:19Speaker 1: or Novation, whom a letter in his absence made a
- 27:23Speaker 1: feigned bishop, whom the episcopal seat received without consecration from
- 27:27Speaker 1: any But of these points hereafter, in the meantime, tell
- 27:32Speaker 1: me yourselves what ye are called. Do ye deny that
- 27:35Speaker 1: the Novations are called from Novation? Impose on them whatever
- 27:40Speaker 1: name you like that will ever adhere to them. Search
- 27:43Speaker 1: if it please you whole annals and trust so many ages,
- 27:47Speaker 1: you will answer Christian. But if I inquire the genus
- 27:50Speaker 1: of the sect, you will not deny that it is Novation.
- 27:54Speaker 1: And yet it is not the name of thy novation
- 27:57Speaker 1: which I censure, and which so often sought after, Thou
- 28:01Speaker 1: envelopest in lines of circumlocution, And if I may so
- 28:05Speaker 1: speak inclosed bosom, confess it without deceit. There is no
- 28:09Speaker 1: wickedness in the name. Why, when so often inquired for,
- 28:13Speaker 1: do you hide yourself? Why ashamed of the origin of
- 28:16Speaker 1: your name? When you first wrote? I thought you a cataphrygian.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Dost thou acknowledge it in thy second letter? Dost thou
- 28:23Speaker 1: grudge me my name? And yet shun thine own Think
- 28:26Speaker 1: what there is of shame in a cause which shrinks
- 28:29Speaker 1: from its own name? But what is this thy criticism
- 28:33Speaker 1: on which thou art so busy, as though I had
- 28:37Speaker 1: applied to a rhetortician, or had to treat of a science,
- 28:41Speaker 1: or to expound verses of Virgil? What then had I said?
- 28:45Speaker 1: Or what verses of Virgil was I expounding? Having named
- 28:49Speaker 1: several heretics, I added at guas farmer recondid obscura. And
- 28:53Speaker 1: whence thinkest thou this to be quoted from a verse
- 28:56Speaker 1: of Virgil? If thou hadst no knowledge at all of Virgil.
- 29:00Speaker 1: But I did not set down the verse in order,
- 29:02Speaker 1: For I said quas farmer regondid obscura. Just as when speaking,
- 29:06Speaker 1: we are accustomed, out of the abundance of human language,
- 29:09Speaker 1: to say anything which may have been said before. Whereas
- 29:13Speaker 1: you re quote the verse in its own order, in
- 29:15Speaker 1: its rhythm. Hadst thou so much more love for Virgil
- 29:18Speaker 1: as to deem it sacrilege to make any infringement on
- 29:21Speaker 1: his verse? And yet I had learnt this of a
- 29:24Speaker 1: little child? What wonder if I stumbled on that which
- 29:28Speaker 1: I knew? Is there such a spirit of enterprise? Then? Brother,
- 29:32Speaker 1: that now at last thou readest those very things which
- 29:35Speaker 1: thou didst blush should once have been read by others
- 29:39Speaker 1: as well. Mayst thou accuse one taught in Latin for
- 29:41Speaker 1: speaking Latin, as thou mightest a Greek for speaking Greek,
- 29:45Speaker 1: Aparthian for speaking Parthian, a Carthaginian for speaking Punic, Medes, Egyptians,
- 29:50Speaker 1: Hebrews have each their own language, according to the abundance
- 29:53Speaker 1: of the Lord, who hath harmonized language into an hundred
- 29:57Speaker 1: and twenty tongues. A bishop quote a verse from a
- 29:59Speaker 1: po What does the apostle Paul blush when he hath
- 30:03Speaker 1: both quoted and approved of that Athenian verse, for in
- 30:06Speaker 1: the acts of the Apostles he putteth it thus, as
- 30:09Speaker 1: certain also of your own poets have said, for we
- 30:13Speaker 1: are his offspring. Since then we are the offspring of God.
- 30:16Speaker 1: And again to Titus, he said, one of themselves, even
- 30:20Speaker 1: a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are always liars,
- 30:23Speaker 1: evil beasts, slow bellies. And he added this witness is true.
- 30:28Speaker 1: So we have authority for our error. Nor are we rhetoricians.
- 30:32Speaker 1: But whatever word we use, we believe it to be
- 30:34Speaker 1: the rich gift of God. Latium, Egypt, Athens, Thracians, Arabian,
- 30:40Speaker 1: Spaniards acknowledge God. The Holy Spirit understandeth all languages. But
- 30:46Speaker 1: why do you say I will smear thy letters with
- 30:49Speaker 1: fresh oil of cedar to protect them from the destructive
- 30:52Speaker 1: enemies of the muses? What muses? I pray you, those
- 30:57Speaker 1: who invented letters and wrote the sheets, which are the
- 30:59Speaker 1: prey of myths, Tell me, I pray, then, brother, did
- 31:03Speaker 1: the muses invent letters? Are not all things through the
- 31:06Speaker 1: Lord and all from God? Besides those one hundred and
- 31:09Speaker 1: twenty tongues, was there yet another of the muses That
- 31:13Speaker 1: idea is falsely devised by hesiod on Helicon, but only
- 31:16Speaker 1: to please the Athenians, who the Apostle says, had no
- 31:19Speaker 1: leisure but to talk. We, the Apostle is our witness,
- 31:23Speaker 1: retain the measures of all words and all kinds of language,
- 31:27Speaker 1: as inspired by God. Yet I pardon you, brother, if
- 31:30Speaker 1: you rely somewhat upon your own author and if you
- 31:34Speaker 1: joined together the philosophy of novation, whereby he made shipwreck
- 31:38Speaker 1: of religion with the authority of Hesiod. But thou ughtest
- 31:41Speaker 1: to have remembered the words of the Apostle who saith.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit.
- 31:49Speaker 1: And now of what sort is that which you think
- 31:52Speaker 1: is to be imputed to Catholics? If at any time
- 31:55Speaker 1: kings or governments have persecuted you, then, on the one hand,
- 31:58Speaker 1: ought to be imputed to you. As often as Catholics
- 32:01Speaker 1: have had to endure the wickedness and persecution of kings
- 32:05Speaker 1: and pagan princes have persecuted us, have ye had to
- 32:09Speaker 1: bear the odium attached to Christians? But we have had
- 32:12Speaker 1: more reason to complain. Let him who did this see
- 32:15Speaker 1: to it with what intention, in what spirit? He did
- 32:18Speaker 1: it to procure peace? Or discord. But and if some
- 32:22Speaker 1: of them have erred, he saith, shall they make the
- 32:25Speaker 1: faith of God without effect? And yet think not that
- 32:29Speaker 1: there was any reason to complain of us, when through
- 32:32Speaker 1: our faith princes had begun to be Christians. These very princes,
- 32:36Speaker 1: favouring the Catholic that is, their own side, were moved
- 32:39Speaker 1: by their own sorrow. Unless it is to be imputed
- 32:42Speaker 1: to Daniel that he was avenged by Darius, or to
- 32:46Speaker 1: that most holy woman Esther when for her a chief
- 32:49Speaker 1: minister of the king is put to death, Or to
- 32:52Speaker 1: the three youths, because after they had made trial of
- 32:55Speaker 1: the flames, the King of Babylon, for their sakes threatens
- 32:58Speaker 1: the wicked and unbelieving. Does not Peter put Simon to
- 33:02Speaker 1: confusion with the consent of the judge. Does not Paul
- 33:04Speaker 1: strike ellamis blind with the approval of Sergius. And even
- 33:08Speaker 1: at Jerusalem he had been avenged, had he, when in bonds,
- 33:12Speaker 1: had any confidence in them, dost thou not know that
- 33:15Speaker 1: authorities themselves are the servants of the innocent, and minister
- 33:18Speaker 1: for good to the Holy Side, as saith, the apostle
- 33:22Speaker 1: rulers are not a terror to good works, but to
- 33:24Speaker 1: the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power.
- 33:28Speaker 1: Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise
- 33:31Speaker 1: of the same through the Lord, For he is a
- 33:33Speaker 1: minister of God to thee for good. And yet I
- 33:36Speaker 1: have complained of no one. I have been avenged on
- 33:40Speaker 1: no one. Nor do I think that the Novations are
- 33:42Speaker 1: any obstacle to me, in whose fewness and decrease, if
- 33:46Speaker 1: I would, I might glory. See no one accuses your
- 33:50Speaker 1: people to the Emperor, and yet thou art alone. Nevertheless,
- 33:54Speaker 1: we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ,
- 33:57Speaker 1: of which one thing I know. The Novations would comply
- 34:00Speaker 1: if their cause were acceptable to any princes. It profiteth more,
- 34:04Speaker 1: you say, to overcome than to please. But they who
- 34:08Speaker 1: are led by a burning desire to overcome, make their
- 34:11Speaker 1: way by contention, whereas the apostle saith. But if any
- 34:15Speaker 1: man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom,
- 34:18Speaker 1: neither the churches of God. On the other hand, of
- 34:21Speaker 1: the desire of pleasing, he saith, I please all men
- 34:24Speaker 1: in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the
- 34:27Speaker 1: profit of many, that they may be saved. But ye,
- 34:31Speaker 1: whilst ye are thinking of your own, not the profit
- 34:33Speaker 1: of your brethren had rather destroy by overcoming than refresh
- 34:36Speaker 1: by pleasing. To overcome evil with good is the office
- 34:40Speaker 1: of reason, But to wish for victory in whatever cause
- 34:43Speaker 1: it be is the part of a mad presumption. This
- 34:46Speaker 1: cometh from the law not of apostles, but of Greeks,
- 34:49Speaker 1: among whom it is found on record that the whole
- 34:52Speaker 1: spirit of the Lacedaemonians was inflamed with the desire of conquering.
- 34:57Speaker 1: The filthy bore also and the infuriator tigris. What else
- 35:01Speaker 1: do they desire but to conquer, rather than to please?
- 35:05Speaker 1: I have leisure, you write, and therefore art thou well
- 35:08Speaker 1: pleased with contention, but to me fully occupied in Catholic business.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Your letters were delivered after about thirty days, resumed after
- 35:15Speaker 1: forty more. You say that I am angry. God forbid,
- 35:19Speaker 1: I believe that I am roused, like the bee who
- 35:22Speaker 1: sometimes defends her honey with her sting. But reconsider the
- 35:26Speaker 1: letters on either side. You will soon see whether it
- 35:29Speaker 1: be with stings or with flowers that we join issue
- 35:32Speaker 1: on paper. The apostle indeed speaks of some similar persons
- 35:36Speaker 1: whose mouths must be stopped. But listen, we engage with
- 35:39Speaker 1: thee as doves with the mouth rather than with the teeth. Oh,
- 35:43Speaker 1: would it were true that thou sayest thou wouldst be
- 35:46Speaker 1: taught at once with my own hands? Would I give
- 35:49Speaker 1: thee the very anointing of the Holy Spirit? Dost thou
- 35:52Speaker 1: love me? I have not harmed thee? This I know?
- 35:56Speaker 1: But then couldst thou love me? If thou didst not
- 35:59Speaker 1: hold things contrary? Then wouldst thou approach my work with
- 36:02Speaker 1: kindly feelings? Dost thou marvel that the epistles of Cyprian
- 36:07Speaker 1: please me? And how should they not the epistles of
- 36:11Speaker 1: a blessed martyr and a Catholic priest. Dost thou force
- 36:14Speaker 1: nervation upon me? I hear that he was a philosopher
- 36:17Speaker 1: of the world. It is not then much wonder to
- 36:20Speaker 1: me that he fell away from the Church of the
- 36:21Speaker 1: Living God. I know that he deserted the root of
- 36:25Speaker 1: the ancient law, the fountain of the ancient people, envying Cornelius,
- 36:29Speaker 1: lending himself to the frenzy of Novatus, made bishop without
- 36:33Speaker 1: legitimate consecration, and therefore not even made by the letter
- 36:37Speaker 1: of those men who pretended they were confessors, who rent
- 36:41Speaker 1: asunder the limbs of their one Mother. These points, brother,
- 36:45Speaker 1: I will prove to you in letters by the confession
- 36:48Speaker 1: of your own friends. Thus, this philosopher of Thine, seeking
- 36:52Speaker 1: to establish his own wisdom as the apostle Saith, was
- 36:55Speaker 1: not made subject to the wisdom of God, since by
- 36:58Speaker 1: its wisdom the world knoweth not the windisdom of God.
- 37:01Speaker 1: For whereas thou supposest that Novation suffered first and subjoin
- 37:05Speaker 1: us that, Cyprian said, my adversary hath preceded me, See
- 37:10Speaker 1: how clear the answer I can make. Novation never endured martyrdom,
- 37:14Speaker 1: nor was that ever heard or read from the words
- 37:16Speaker 1: of the most blessed Cyprian. Thou hast his epistles in
- 37:20Speaker 1: which he mentions Cornelius, Bishop of the City of whom
- 37:23Speaker 1: Novation was then envious, as resisting the hostile princes, often
- 37:27Speaker 1: a confessor, often harassed, as made the leader of many confessors,
- 37:31Speaker 1: of many martyrs, also, and as receiving a most glorious
- 37:34Speaker 1: crown with many others, whilst Norvation was still alive and
- 37:38Speaker 1: even free from all anxiety, for he had left the
- 37:42Speaker 1: Church of Christ for this very reason, that he might
- 37:45Speaker 1: not have to bear the toils of confessorship. First stung
- 37:49Speaker 1: by envy, he could not endure the episcopate of Cornelius. Then,
- 37:53Speaker 1: with the mockery of those letters of a few, he
- 37:55Speaker 1: had bound himself to Novatus. All this concerning novation you
- 37:59Speaker 1: may look from the letters of Cyprian. But moreover, although
- 38:03Speaker 1: norvation did endure some suffering, yet he was not also slain.
- 38:07Speaker 1: And although he was slain, yet was he not crowned?
- 38:11Speaker 1: Why not he was without the peace of the church,
- 38:14Speaker 1: without the bounds of concord, without the pale of that
- 38:18Speaker 1: Mother of whom he ought to be a part, who
- 38:20Speaker 1: is a martyr here the apostle. And though I have
- 38:24Speaker 1: all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have
- 38:27Speaker 1: not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all
- 38:30Speaker 1: my goods to feed the poor, and though I give
- 38:32Speaker 1: my body to be burned, and have not charity, it
- 38:35Speaker 1: profiteth me nothing. But Cyprian suffered in accord withal in
- 38:40Speaker 1: the common peace of all amid a company of confessors,
- 38:44Speaker 1: and having often been a confessor in reiterated persecutions, and
- 38:47Speaker 1: harassed with many a torment, had at last given him
- 38:50Speaker 1: to drink of the cup of salvation. This was to
- 38:53Speaker 1: be crowned. Wherefore let novation have his epistles to himself,
- 38:58Speaker 1: to himself, his haughtingnes, to himself his pride, by which
- 39:02Speaker 1: whilst he is lifted up on high, he is dashed
- 39:04Speaker 1: down to pieces. Whilst he spares no one, he is
- 39:08Speaker 1: himself cast out. Lo the man who, by an inexorable
- 39:13Speaker 1: religion closes the way of salvation against his brethren. Lo,
- 39:16Speaker 1: the man who is confident that he beareth the fan
- 39:19Speaker 1: and is purging the garner of the Lord. Take pity
- 39:22Speaker 1: on thyself, brother, simpronian, lest norvationan deceive THEE under this
- 39:26Speaker 1: mask as though he were himself, therefore to be thought
- 39:29Speaker 1: the more righteous, because he despised others in comparison of himself.
- 39:33Speaker 1: Audacity often feigns itself confidence, and the false image of
- 39:37Speaker 1: a good conscience flatters even desperate sinners, Whereas contrariwise, all
- 39:42Speaker 1: humility is innocence, even that of the debtor, even that
- 39:46Speaker 1: of the sinner, even that which softeneth its soul with
- 39:49Speaker 1: the sinner blot me. I pray THEE, says Moses, out
- 39:53Speaker 1: of thy book which thou hast written, and this that
- 39:55Speaker 1: sinners might not perish. For I could wish saith the
- 39:58Speaker 1: apostle that myself we are accursed from Christ for my brethren,
- 40:02Speaker 1: my kinsmen according to the flesh. Both then pray for sinners.
- 40:06Speaker 1: And yet neither Moses nor Paul offend God on this account?
- 40:10Speaker 1: Is Novation better than they? A corrector of prophets, a
- 40:13Speaker 1: teacher of apostles. Is he now seeing with Christ as
- 40:16Speaker 1: was this same Moses? Is he now carried up as
- 40:20Speaker 1: was Paul into the third heaven? Is he alone to
- 40:23Speaker 1: be now heard and all others neglected? This would have
- 40:27Speaker 1: been a sufficient answer to return to your letter. But
- 40:31Speaker 1: as you argue to some extent against doing penance or
- 40:35Speaker 1: for doing it before baptism, and have filled your page
- 40:38Speaker 1: with many chapters of examples from his treatise, I will,
- 40:41Speaker 1: though more than is called for, answer each point. I
- 40:44Speaker 1: will not hold back the substance of the truer faith.
- 40:47Speaker 1: And as thou hast deigned to enjoin on me to
- 40:50Speaker 1: hear thee at great length, do thou in return afford
- 40:53Speaker 1: a kind requital to our treatise. The Lord perhaps will
- 40:57Speaker 1: vouchsafe that we who have patience yield it ourselves to
- 41:01Speaker 1: thy inquiries, may gather some fruit from thy patients. Also,
- 41:05Speaker 1: the Lord vouchsafed to guard and protect thee forever, and
- 41:08Speaker 1: make THEE to live a Christian and a Catholic, and
- 41:11Speaker 1: to agree with us amen. End of section two, Section
- 41:23Speaker 1: three of the extant Works of Simpassion of Barcelona. By
- 41:28Speaker 1: Passion of Barcelona, this LibriVox recording is in the public domain.
- 41:34Speaker 1: Epistle three against the Treatise of the Novationans Passion the
- 41:41Speaker 1: Bishop to Simpronian, his brother, greeting, the whole Treatise of
- 41:46Speaker 1: the Novations, which you have addressed to me, thronged with
- 41:50Speaker 1: propositions on all sides, amounts to this brother Simpronian, that
- 41:54Speaker 1: there is no room for repentance after baptism, that the
- 41:57Speaker 1: Church cannot remit mortal sin, that by the receiving of sinners,
- 42:01Speaker 1: she herself perishes illustrious honour, singular authority, great constancy, to
- 42:07Speaker 1: reject the guilty, to flee the touch of sinners, to
- 42:10Speaker 1: have so little confidence in her own innocence. Who is
- 42:14Speaker 1: the asserter of this doctrine, Brother Moses or Paul or Christ?
- 42:19Speaker 1: But Moses wished to be wiped out of the book
- 42:21Speaker 1: for the sake of Blasphemus, and Paul to be accursed
- 42:25Speaker 1: for his brethren, and the Lord himself willeth to suffer
- 42:28Speaker 1: for the unrighteous. None of these, you will say, who, then,
- 42:32Speaker 1: I ask? It was the ordinance of Novation, some spotless
- 42:36Speaker 1: and pure man. I suppose, who was no follower of Novatus,
- 42:40Speaker 1: who never deserted the church, who was made bishop by bishops,
- 42:44Speaker 1: who was consecrated according to the received rites, who obtained
- 42:47Speaker 1: the episcopal chair in the church when duly vacant? What
- 42:51Speaker 1: is that to thee thou wilt say, I answer, Novationan
- 42:55Speaker 1: taught this doctrine. But at least when did he teach it? Brother?
- 42:59Speaker 1: Or at what period immediately after the passion of the Lord,
- 43:03Speaker 1: after the reign of Deaceus, that is, nearly three hundred
- 43:06Speaker 1: years after the passion of the Lord. And what then
- 43:09Speaker 1: did he? Did he follow the prophets as the Cataphrygians,
- 43:13Speaker 1: some philomny as Appellus, or received he himself so great
- 43:18Speaker 1: authority spake he with tongues? Did he prophesy? Could he
- 43:21Speaker 1: raise the dead? For some one of these powers he
- 43:23Speaker 1: ought to have had? Who was to bring in a
- 43:25Speaker 1: gospel with new laws? Although the apostle crieth even against this,
- 43:29Speaker 1: though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other
- 43:31Speaker 1: gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him
- 43:34Speaker 1: be accursed. Novatian you will say, discern this, but Christ
- 43:39Speaker 1: taught it. Was there no one of discernment from the
- 43:42Speaker 1: advent of Christ, even to the reign of Diseus. Again,
- 43:45Speaker 1: since Diseus has every bishop been weary of his office,
- 43:49Speaker 1: all others relaxed men, choosing rather to join themselves with
- 43:52Speaker 1: the loss, to perish with the miserable, to be wounded
- 43:55Speaker 1: through the wounds of others. Novationan vindicateth, righteousness is set free,
- 44:01Speaker 1: norvation guideth. Every error is corrected. But come, you will say,
- 44:06Speaker 1: let our conflict be carried on with examples, and let
- 44:08Speaker 1: us contend with reasoning. But I so far am safe,
- 44:13Speaker 1: contented with the line of the Church itself, with a
- 44:15Speaker 1: peace of the ancient congregation. I have learnt no desire
- 44:19Speaker 1: of discord. I have sought no arguments for contest. Thou,
- 44:23Speaker 1: having been separated from the rest of the body and
- 44:25Speaker 1: divided from thy mother, that thou mayst give account of
- 44:28Speaker 1: thy deed. Art an assiduous searcher into the inmost recesses
- 44:32Speaker 1: of books. Everything which is hidden you molest, and whatever
- 44:35Speaker 1: is at rest. You disturb our fathers unrequired, entered into
- 44:39Speaker 1: no dispute, our very unanxiousness sought no arms. Every advance
- 44:44Speaker 1: of your party is guarded. I then know not what
- 44:47Speaker 1: Norvation did, of what Novation was guilty, What the swelling
- 44:51Speaker 1: pride of Evaristus, What the report of Nicostratus despising your weapons?
- 44:56Speaker 1: I know them not yet Beware how thou engaged with
- 44:59Speaker 1: uns armed truth? Let us await, however, what thou mayest object,
- 45:04Speaker 1: what thou hast to say? Will truth be able to
- 45:07Speaker 1: hold its ground though unarmed or innocence unskilled? You set
- 45:12Speaker 1: forth and rightly indeed that the Church is a people
- 45:14Speaker 1: born again of water and the Holy Spirit, free from
- 45:17Speaker 1: denying the name of Christ, the temple and House of God,
- 45:20Speaker 1: the pillar and ground of the Truth, a holy virgin
- 45:23Speaker 1: of chastest feelings, the spouse of Christ, of his bones
- 45:26Speaker 1: and his flesh, not having spot or wrinkled, holding the
- 45:29Speaker 1: laws of the gospels entire. Who of us denies this?
- 45:34Speaker 1: But we add moreover that the Church is the queen
- 45:37Speaker 1: in a vesture of gold, wrought about with diverse colors,
- 45:40Speaker 1: the fruitful vine on the walls of the House of
- 45:43Speaker 1: the Lord, the Mother of virgins without number, the one
- 45:47Speaker 1: beautiful and perfect dove, the chosen of her Mother, the
- 45:50Speaker 1: very mother of all. Built upon the foundation of the
- 45:52Speaker 1: apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone,
- 45:56Speaker 1: a great house enriched with a diversity of every kind
- 45:59Speaker 1: of vessel. But this of ours hereafter Meanwhile, consider we
- 46:03Speaker 1: those of yours. The Church is a people born again
- 46:07Speaker 1: of water and the spirit. Well, say, who hath closed
- 46:10Speaker 1: the Fountain of God against me? Who hath taken the
- 46:12Speaker 1: Holy Spirit from me? Yea, rather with us is the
- 46:15Speaker 1: living water, the very water which springeth from Christ. But
- 46:18Speaker 1: thou separated from the everlasting Fountain. Whence receivest thou thy birth.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Nor hath the Holy Spirit departed from the Chief Mother?
- 46:27Speaker 1: Whence then came he to thee, Unless perchance he hath
- 46:30Speaker 1: followed one that is in strife and abandoning so many priests,
- 46:34Speaker 1: nor pleased to abide in his consecrated dwelling place, hath
- 46:37Speaker 1: preferred the broken cisterns of an adulterated fountain. Whence have
- 46:41Speaker 1: your people the spirit not having been sealed by an
- 46:44Speaker 1: anointed priest? Whence the water being separated from its mother's womb.
- 46:50Speaker 1: Whence renewal, who have lost the cradle of bridal peace?
- 46:55Speaker 1: The church is a people free from denying the name
- 46:57Speaker 1: of Christ. Are there then no confesses of amongst us, no martyrs,
- 47:01Speaker 1: no untainted and spotless priests, who have been proved by prisons,
- 47:05Speaker 1: by chains, by fire, by the sword there were, thou
- 47:09Speaker 1: wilt say, but by receiving those who had denied, they perished?
- 47:13Speaker 1: I do not mention. I do not infer even this
- 47:16Speaker 1: that your own novation. Whilst he was still living in
- 47:19Speaker 1: the church, both wrote and recommended and read a book
- 47:21Speaker 1: on receiving those who had denied or the lapsed. In
- 47:24Speaker 1: the meantime, whom will you be able to persuade that
- 47:27Speaker 1: by receiving the lapse the whole church hath perished, That
- 47:31Speaker 1: by the admission of penitence, the people of those who
- 47:34Speaker 1: admit them has been made a denier of the faith.
- 47:37Speaker 1: But even if the people here or there have been
- 47:40Speaker 1: two lax, have the other peoples also who approved not
- 47:43Speaker 1: of their deed but followed custom and peace, lost their
- 47:46Speaker 1: Christian name? Here the voice of Jeremiah in those days,
- 47:51Speaker 1: shall they not say, the fathers have eaten a sour grape,
- 47:54Speaker 1: and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every
- 47:57Speaker 1: one shall die for his own iniquity. Nor is the
- 47:59Speaker 1: lord's son sent by the mouth of his egiel. As
- 48:01Speaker 1: the soul of the father, So also the soul of
- 48:04Speaker 1: the son is mine. The soul that sinneth it shall die.
- 48:07Speaker 1: And afterwards the son shall not bear the iniquity of
- 48:10Speaker 1: the father. Neither shall the father bear the iniquity of
- 48:13Speaker 1: the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him.
- 48:17Speaker 1: You yourself bring forward this example. Though these three men, Noah, Daniel,
- 48:22Speaker 1: and Job were in it, they shall deliver, neither son
- 48:25Speaker 1: nor daughter. They only shall be delivered. See, they who
- 48:28Speaker 1: are placed in the midst of sinners, who cannot deliver others,
- 48:31Speaker 1: are themselves saved. Whereas thou bindest the whole world with
- 48:35Speaker 1: the chains of a few, thou condemnest the whole church
- 48:37Speaker 1: for the infirmity of a small portion. What are all
- 48:41Speaker 1: with you, saints, whom Novatus trained, whom Everrastus chose, whom
- 48:46Speaker 1: Nicostratus taught, whom Novation instructed. As thou escaped the thorns
- 48:51Speaker 1: and briars, as thou no tears in thy corn, is
- 48:54Speaker 1: thy wheat already purged, Will he that purgeth come to
- 48:57Speaker 1: thee without his fail Shalt thou alone of all have
- 49:01Speaker 1: no chaff, but come proceed with the rest. The Church
- 49:06Speaker 1: is the Body of Christ, truly, the body, not a member,
- 49:09Speaker 1: a body composed of many parts and members knit in one,
- 49:12Speaker 1: as saith the apostle. For the body is not one member,
- 49:15Speaker 1: but many. Therefore the Church is the full body, compacted
- 49:18Speaker 1: and diffused now throughout the whole world, like a city,
- 49:21Speaker 1: I mean, all whose parts are united, not as ye
- 49:24Speaker 1: are own ovations, some small and insolent portion, and a
- 49:28Speaker 1: mere swelling that has gathered and separated from the rest
- 49:30Speaker 1: of the body. The Church is the Temple of God, truly,
- 49:35Speaker 1: an ample temple, a great house, having vessels of gold
- 49:38Speaker 1: and silver, but also of wood and earth, some unto honor,
- 49:41Speaker 1: and many indeed of glorious fashion, destined for the manifold
- 49:44Speaker 1: uses of various works. The Church is a holy virgin
- 49:48Speaker 1: of chastest feelings, the spouse of Christ. A virgin, it
- 49:52Speaker 1: is true, but a mother, also a spouse, it is clear,
- 49:55Speaker 1: but also a wife and an help me taken from
- 49:58Speaker 1: her husband, and therefore bonne of his bones and flesh,
- 50:01Speaker 1: of his flesh, For of her david saith, Thy wife
- 50:04Speaker 1: shall be as the fruitful vine upon the walls of
- 50:07Speaker 1: thine houses, thy children, like the olive branches round about
- 50:10Speaker 1: thy table. Great therefore is the progeny of this virgin,
- 50:14Speaker 1: and without number her offspring, wherewith the whole world is filled,
- 50:17Speaker 1: wherewith the populace swarm ever throngs, the circumfluous hive. Great
- 50:23Speaker 1: is the care of that mother for her children, and
- 50:25Speaker 1: tender her affection. The good are honoured, the haughtier chastise,
- 50:28Speaker 1: the sicker cared. For no one perishes, no one is despised.
- 50:31Speaker 1: The young are kept safe under the indulgent protection of
- 50:34Speaker 1: a mother. The church is without spot or wrinkle, that is,
- 50:38Speaker 1: without heresies, without valentinus, without cataphrygians, without novations, For in
- 50:43Speaker 1: these are certain spotted and wrinkled folds, envious of the
- 50:47Speaker 1: ornaments of the precious vesture. But the sinner and the
- 50:50Speaker 1: penitent are not a spot on the church, because as
- 50:53Speaker 1: long as he sineth and repenteth not, he is put
- 50:56Speaker 1: without the church. When he ceases to sin, he is
- 50:59Speaker 1: already whole. But the heretic rends divine spots wrinkles the
- 51:04Speaker 1: garment of the Lord, the Church of Christ. For whereas
- 51:08Speaker 1: there are schisms and contentions among you, saith the apostle,
- 51:11Speaker 1: are ye not carnal, and walk as men. And moreover
- 51:14Speaker 1: their word will eat as doth a canker. This is
- 51:17Speaker 1: the spot that defileth unity. This is the wrinkle. Lastly,
- 51:22Speaker 1: when the apostle is speaking of these things, he is
- 51:24Speaker 1: setting forth the love and affection of Christ. As Christ,
- 51:27Speaker 1: he saith love the Church and gave himself for it
- 51:30Speaker 1: that he might remove. That is the heretics, because they
- 51:33Speaker 1: know not how to love. But why is this, you
- 51:35Speaker 1: will say for the wretched penitent, because he wisheth both
- 51:39Speaker 1: to love and be loved. The Church is that which
- 51:43Speaker 1: keepeth the laws of the gospels entire, truly entire, because
- 51:47Speaker 1: all because fully, where a reward is given to the faithful,
- 51:51Speaker 1: where tears are not denied to the wretched, where the
- 51:54Speaker 1: weeping of them that ask is heard, where the wounded
- 51:56Speaker 1: are bound up, where the sick are healed, Where insolent
- 51:58Speaker 1: health claimeth nothing for itself, nor a proud righteousness, Where
- 52:03Speaker 1: charity endureth long, solicitous for all, believing all things, hoping,
- 52:06Speaker 1: all things, enduring all things. Whence is that of the apostle,
- 52:10Speaker 1: who is weak, and I am not weak, who is
- 52:12Speaker 1: offended an eye burn not? Where the whole brotherhood, mourning
- 52:16Speaker 1: together beareth its own burdens, secure in mutual affection, all
- 52:20Speaker 1: in turn bearing with one another in love, endeavoring to
- 52:23Speaker 1: keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
- 52:26Speaker 1: This will be the church, brother, Simpronian, This will be
- 52:29Speaker 1: the people born again in Christ of water and the
- 52:31Speaker 1: Holy Spirit. I know not you say where the sin
- 52:37Speaker 1: can be remitted by bishops. Since our Lord hath said,
- 52:40Speaker 1: whosoever shall deny me before men him, will I also
- 52:43Speaker 1: deny before my Father, which is in heaven. Why then,
- 52:47Speaker 1: did your Novation teach this when a priest before he
- 52:51Speaker 1: had falsely assumed the episcopate, long before Cornelius was made
- 52:54Speaker 1: Bishop of Rome, before he was envious of his priesthood.
- 52:59Speaker 1: You have the evidence of Cyprian to this Cyprian, whom
- 53:02Speaker 1: not even ye have ever been able to defame, for
- 53:06Speaker 1: in a certain place, he writes to Antonianus. After this manner,
- 53:10Speaker 1: it was added moreover Novationan, being then the writer, and
- 53:14Speaker 1: with his own voice, reciting what he had written and Moysus,
- 53:18Speaker 1: then a confessor, now a martyr, subscribing that peace should
- 53:22Speaker 1: be given to the lapsed, when sick in extremities. Which
- 53:26Speaker 1: epistle was sent throughout the world and brought to the
- 53:29Speaker 1: knowledge of all the churches. What sayest thou, brother Simpronian?
- 53:33Speaker 1: Novation wrote this, and that he might add the assent
- 53:37Speaker 1: of his entire will recited it also when written his
- 53:41Speaker 1: right hand is witness, witnessed the hand which wrote, Witness
- 53:44Speaker 1: the tongue which read as yet Cornelius, on account of
- 53:47Speaker 1: whom all this envy of yours burst forth, was not
- 53:50Speaker 1: bishop long subsequent to this, with very many brother bishops,
- 53:54Speaker 1: with very many confessors, and forthwith martyrs. As the same
- 53:58Speaker 1: Cyprian writes, he agreed in the decision of the elders
- 54:02Speaker 1: that peace might be given if the approach to penance
- 54:05Speaker 1: is to be refused. Novation is involved in the guilt.
- 54:09Speaker 1: Who wrote, recommended, and recited this? Where then was this
- 54:14Speaker 1: impatient rigor, where then this unrelenting censorship? Had no one
- 54:18Speaker 1: preferred Cornelius to you, that authority of Novations so writing
- 54:22Speaker 1: had remained. Now this whole judgment displeaseth. Now our arrows
- 54:27Speaker 1: shot at us and these very men furnished them, by
- 54:30Speaker 1: whose authority the cause whereat they direct them gained its strength.
- 54:35Speaker 1: But when began the Novations to fall into this very heresy, listen,
- 54:39Speaker 1: I pray and consider the whole course of your error. Cornelius,
- 54:43Speaker 1: now made Bishop of Rome by sixteen bishops, had succeeded
- 54:47Speaker 1: to the place of the vacant chair, and in that
- 54:50Speaker 1: virginal chastity wherewith he was endued, suffered frequent persecutions from
- 54:55Speaker 1: the angered prince. At that time, by chance, a certain
- 54:58Speaker 1: presbyter named no Vivatus, having defrauded the widows in the
- 55:02Speaker 1: Church of Carthage, robbed orphans, denied and withheld the money
- 55:06Speaker 1: of the church, cast his father out of his house,
- 55:09Speaker 1: suffered him to die of hunger, and left him without burial,
- 55:12Speaker 1: stricken with his heel the womb of his pregnant wife,
- 55:15Speaker 1: and destroyed her child. Came from Africa to Rome, and there, when,
- 55:20Speaker 1: at the urgent request of his brethren in the church,
- 55:23Speaker 1: the day on which he must render account at Carthage
- 55:25Speaker 1: was closed upon him, he lay concealed. And not long
- 55:29Speaker 1: after when this nervation was troubled at the episcopate of Cornelius,
- 55:34Speaker 1: for he had hoped it for himself. He with some
- 55:38Speaker 1: partisans of his side, as his men's want in such
- 55:41Speaker 1: cases urges him on, when hesitating encourages him, when doubtful
- 55:45Speaker 1: exhorts him to hope for something great. He finds some
- 55:48Speaker 1: out of the number of those who escape the tempest
- 55:51Speaker 1: of that persecution, in whose minds he could infuse against
- 55:54Speaker 1: Cornelius this very odium about the receiving of the lapsed.
- 55:58Speaker 1: He gives to Novation their letters to him. He, by
- 56:01Speaker 1: authority of these letters, there being already a bishop sitting
- 56:05Speaker 1: at Rome, in opposition to the laws of the singleness
- 56:08Speaker 1: of the priesthood, assumes to himself the name of a
- 56:11Speaker 1: second bishop, accuses Cornelius of being in communion with the lapse,
- 56:16Speaker 1: asserts his own innocence over against such a man. I
- 56:20Speaker 1: am to render account against such. I am to maintain
- 56:24Speaker 1: the cause of modesty against such, his purity of life
- 56:27Speaker 1: to be vindicated. But thou wilt say, why do ye, too,
- 56:32Speaker 1: bishops approve such things? This? Let another say, do thou
- 56:36Speaker 1: defend ovation? Let the cause seem to others inexcusable. To
- 56:40Speaker 1: thee it should be acceptable, be he innocent in thy sight.
- 56:44Speaker 1: Whoever is in thy behalf guilty, accuse not another of
- 56:48Speaker 1: a crime from which you cannot clear yourself. Wellbeit that
- 56:52Speaker 1: we bishops every way owe a debt of shame, because
- 56:56Speaker 1: we have received the name of Apostles, because we are
- 56:59Speaker 1: sealed with the title of Christ. The Lord, thou sayest,
- 57:02Speaker 1: denies him, that denieth, I would not that thou shouldst
- 57:05Speaker 1: acknowledge him, denying Who does acknowledge him? Denying he I
- 57:11Speaker 1: ask who constrains him to penance, rebukes him, shows him
- 57:14Speaker 1: his crime, lays bare his wounds, tells him of eternal punishments,
- 57:18Speaker 1: corrects him by the destruction of the flesh. This is
- 57:21Speaker 1: to chasten, not to acknowledge the Lord saith unto us.
- 57:24Speaker 1: Ye are the salt of the earth. Good? Then is
- 57:27Speaker 1: the harmony when we so teach, Nor will its authority
- 57:30Speaker 1: be slight? Whosoever shall hear us. Thou seest that the
- 57:35Speaker 1: sentence of the Lord is not trampled on, but enforced
- 57:38Speaker 1: by us. Severity is not laid aside, but his will
- 57:40Speaker 1: laid open. But thou wilt say you forgive sin to
- 57:44Speaker 1: the penitent, whereas it is allowed to you to remit
- 57:47Speaker 1: sin only in baptism, not to me at all, but
- 57:51Speaker 1: to God only, who both in baptism, forgiveth the guilt
- 57:53Speaker 1: and kurd and rejecteth not the tears of the penitent.
- 57:57Speaker 1: But what I do I do not by my own right,
- 58:00Speaker 1: but by the Lords. We are laborers together with God
- 58:03Speaker 1: saith the apostle, ye are God's building. And again I
- 58:06Speaker 1: have planted a polus watered, but God gave the increase.
- 58:10Speaker 1: So then neither he that planteth anything, neither he that watereth,
- 58:13Speaker 1: but God that giveth the increase. Wherefore, whether we baptize,
- 58:18Speaker 1: whether we constrain to penance, or grant pardon to the penitent,
- 58:21Speaker 1: we do this by the authority of Christ. See thou
- 58:24Speaker 1: to it, whether Christ hath this power, whether Christ have
- 58:27Speaker 1: done this. If remission of sin, thou sayest, could be
- 58:32Speaker 1: given to the penitent, baptism was not necessary most senseless comparison,
- 58:38Speaker 1: for baptism is the sacrament of the Lord's passion. The
- 58:41Speaker 1: pardon of penitence is the earning of Him that confesseth.
- 58:44Speaker 1: The former all can obtain, because it is the gift
- 58:47Speaker 1: of the grace of God, that is a free gift.
- 58:50Speaker 1: But penitence is the toil of the few, who after falling, arise,
- 58:54Speaker 1: who after wounds, recover, who are opened by tearful prayers,
- 58:58Speaker 1: who recover life through the destruction of the flesh. Thou
- 59:02Speaker 1: maintainest that to no purpose did I adduce that instance,
- 59:05Speaker 1: that God hath said, I desire not the death of
- 59:07Speaker 1: a sinner, but rather that he repent. What had I
- 59:11Speaker 1: added that of Isaiah? When thou shalt return and mourn,
- 59:15Speaker 1: then shalt thou be saved, And know where thou hast been,
- 59:19Speaker 1: What if that of the apocalypse? Remember therefore, from whence
- 59:22Speaker 1: thou art fallen and repent and do the first works?
- 59:26Speaker 1: These things thou wilt say, were spoken to the Gentiles
- 59:28Speaker 1: before baptism. Here the apostle, now we know that what
- 59:32Speaker 1: things soever the Law saith, it saith to them that
- 59:35Speaker 1: are under the law. Therefore, those who lived without the
- 59:38Speaker 1: law will not beholden by this condition of repentance. And
- 59:42Speaker 1: should they have repented, they had done it out of
- 59:45Speaker 1: an unconstrained faith, not by any bond of repentance imposed
- 59:49Speaker 1: by the law. Therefore, thou wilt say, the Jews, at least,
- 59:53Speaker 1: who repented before baptism, cannot repent after baptism. Who taught
- 59:57Speaker 1: thee this brother, Simpronian, who convince thee that he who
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: may have repented before, ought not to repent afterwards. But
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: this we will see hereafter. Meanwhile, even if the Jews
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: were precluded from repentance after baptism because they had repented before,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: allow that the Gentiles, at least, who before knew not
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: the law of repentance, ought to repent afterwards. But I
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: would not that thou shouldst be deceived, even as to
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: the Jews, For on this very ground did they before repent,
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: because they had corrupted their old baptism, And they repented
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: as having after faith betrayed the faith here the apostle. Moreover, brethren,
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: all our fathers were under the same cloud, and all
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: passed through the sea, and were all baptized unto Moses,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: in the cloud and in the sea, and did all
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: eat the same spiritual meat, and did all drink the
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: same spiritual drink, For they drank of that spiritual rock
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: that followed them, and that rock was Christ. This baptism,
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: then they had violated, and therefore did they repent. Let
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: us now see what thou sayest if God bids man
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: often repent, sayest thou, he allows him often to sin.
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: What sayest thou, does he, then, who frequently points out
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: the remedy for a crime, point out the crime? And
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: when the physician cures, does he teach us to be
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: constantly wounded? God, wisheth not man to sin even once?
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: And yet he delivers him from sin? Nor yet when
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: he delivereth, doth he teach sin? As neither does he
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: who delivers from a fire teach to kindle it. Nor
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: does he who rescues the shipwrecked from the cliffs drive
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: him upon the rocks. It is one thing to be
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: delivered from danger, another to be forced upon danger. And
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: perchance I might allow this if luxury were accounted penitence
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: on which such toil is imposed, the destruction of the flesh, enjoined,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: continual tears, unending groans. Will he, then, who has been cured,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: wish again to feel the knife again, to suffer cautery?
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Will he wish to sin again and repent again? When
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: it is written, sin no more lest a worse thing
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: come unto thee and again on him that sinneth constantly.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: I have no mercy. But if, as thou sayest, he
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: is driven into sin, to whom is pointed out the
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: medicine of penance, What then will be his case, who
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: is shut out even from penance, who has his whole
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: wound blade bare, and yet despairs of any remedy, who
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: is utterly and entirely denied any approach to life In baptism,
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Thou wilt say we die once for all according to
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: the Apostle, know ye not that so many of us,
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: as were baptized into Jesus Christ, were baptized into his death.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death. That,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: like as Christ was raised up from the dead by
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: the glory of the Father, even so we also should
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: walk in newness of life. What marvel the Apostle taught
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: that we were renewed, that no one might sin. And
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: yet it followed that he who had sin should repent.
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: The one is to live uninjured, the other curt The
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: innocent should receive a crown, a penitent pardon, the one
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: a reward, the other a remedy. And lastly, the same
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: apostle saith, for when we were yet without strength in
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: due time, Christ died for the ungodly, much more then
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: being now justified by his blood. We shall be saved
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: from wrath through Him, from the wrath that is which
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: was due to sinners. But if he suffered not the
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: gentile people to die, much more, when redeemed, will he
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: not suffer them to be lost, Nor will he cast
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: away those whom he hath bought at a great price.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Nor is the loss of his servants a little matter
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: in his eyes. He that has risen again shall die
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: no more, as it is written, But himself is our advocate.
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: With the Father himself intercedeth for our sins. No powerless
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: maintainer of the cause of the wretched, no inadequate intercessor answer. Brother,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: can the devil oppress the servants of God? And cannot
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: Christ set them free? Thou sayest that the repentance of
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: Peter was before the passion of our Lord. No one
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: adduced this instance to thee. And yet Peter had been
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: already baptized, for to him the Lord had said, he
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet,
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: but is clean every wit. Afterwards, however, he received the
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: remedy of Christ's death. But he repented before and was
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: esteemed wholly before he attained to this remedy, Nor would
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: his repentance be written as a memorial had it not
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: in some way profited the penitent He wept, it is
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: said bitterly, wilst thou not that the believer should do
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: what Peter did, wilst thou not that what profited Peter
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: should profit us, Come say favoreth it not me that Thomas,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: after the resurrection of the Lord doubt of the resurrection.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: Is he not marked by the Lord as guilty of faithlessness?
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: When are shown him the prince of the nails, the
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: pierced hands, the wound in the side, when the Lord
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: saith unto him? Thus be not faithless but believing? What
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: then was he a shame to repent? Was he not humbled?
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: Does he not straightway acknowledge his God and his Lord?
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: And is not that confession his commendation? How acutely now
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: dost thou dispatch that head which I set down? That
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: power was given unto bishops, that whatsoever they bound on
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: earth should be bound also in heaven, and whatsoever they
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: loosed on earth should be loosed also in heaven. Thou
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: sayest that this has reference not to the faithful, but
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: to catechumens, that in the case, namely of people yet
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: to be baptized, sins were allowed either to be loosed
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: or retained. Lastly, thou joinest together clauses from two evangelists,
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: so as to seem one, and addest that what Matthew
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: detailed less fully, John filled up. So that whereas the
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: Lord had said, according to Matthew, go ye therefore and
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost,
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: he completed his words in John, saying, whosoever sins, ye remit,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: they are remitted unto them, and whosoever sins ye retain,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: they are attained. So that this loosing or binding may
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: seem to refer to the gentiles who were yet to
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: be baptized, because the former evangelists spoke first of the gentiles,
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: but the latter filled up concerning loosing and binding. What
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: sayest thou do the two evangelists relate meanings mutually halved
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: between them, and but half entire Were they mutually deficient
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: either in language or in reason, or did not in
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: all the Holy Spirit fill the whole man, carrying out
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: entirely the sense proposed and defining the words even to
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: the full. No one superaddeth to a man's testament, when confirmed,
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: shall another covenant change the covenant of God? What is
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: this desire in you of overcoming, that you dare any
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: such thing? What is this which, according to Matthew himself,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: the Lord had said, before his passion, whatsoever ye shall
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven, And whatsoever
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: ye shall loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: Our Lord had foretold this in Saint Matthew, and made
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: there no mention of the gentiles. Why then, do you
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: join on the chapter of John to him where he
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: has set down what is peculiar to himself, and so
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: set it down as to keep it distinct from the gentiles,
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: which had he wished to refer to the gentiles, he
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: could surely join together that which himself elsewhere set down.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: All thou seekest, then thou hast in Matthew. Why didst
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: not thou, who teachest a bishop read the whole look
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: at the first head of that command? According to the
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: relation of Matthew himself, the Lord spake a little above
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: to Peter. He spake to one that from one he
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: might lay the foundation of unity afterwards, delivering the very
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: same command in common to all. He still begins in
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: the same terms as to Peter. And I say also
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: unto thee, he saith that thou art Peter. And upon
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: this rock I will build my Church, and the gates
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: give unto thee the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: And whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: in Heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, shall
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: be loosed in heaven. Say, brother, did he speak this
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: of the gentiles? Only upon this rock? He saith, I
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: will build my church. Doth he call nations not baptized?
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: The church is man, not as yet reborn the body
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: of Christ. What do I loose to the gentiles? What
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: is not bound? For if it is not imputed nor bound,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: why bind I on? What bind I? Not? Of right?
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: The gentile is free from the law. See now, on
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: the other hand, whether both words do not agree with
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: the baptized. He is loosed by pardon because he is
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: bound by sin. He is bound by anathema because he
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: has been loosed by faith and set free through grace.
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: But if I grant that this power of loosing and
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: binding regarded the gentiles. Also much more do I prove
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: that it appertained to the baptized, For if he could
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: be loosed or bound, who had no claim, how much
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: more he who was held by the laws of faith.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Thou sayest that Matthew had written, if thy brother shall
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: trespass against THEE, go and tell him his fault, but
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: between THEE and him alone, And that immediately after the
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: Lord added, whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: loosed in heaven, so that it would seem to have
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: reference to offense given to a brother. But look seest
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: thou not what he saith above, if thy brother shall
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: trespass against THEE. But here he addeth verily I say
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: unto you, whatsoever ye shall loose on earth, et cetera.
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: The former is a command to one, the latter a
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: power of loosing granted to many, the one that same
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: looseth against whom it is committed, the other the church.
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: The former is obtained without the priest, without the brethren.
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: The latter from all whatsoever ye shall loose, he says,
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: he accepted nothing. Whatever whatsoever he says, great or small,
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: listen to what he saith to Peter below that sin
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: against man is to be forgiven seventy times seven, in
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: order to show that in other cases it can be
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: forgiven at least once. And yet he who sins against
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: Peter doth despite to the Lord, as he declares himself
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: when speaking to Samuel, they have not rejected thee, but
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: they have rejected me. What then is commanded to us
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: so often is allowed to the church at least once.
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: But to return to the lost cheap the piece of
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: silver and the younger son examples upon which I slightly
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: touched in my former letter. Thou hast gone over again
- 1:10:18Speaker 1: in full teaching and showing that the piece of silver
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: and the sheep and the younger son refer to publicans
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: and sinners, that is a lowly people, not to the
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: image of the Christian people, nor the likeness of the faithful.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: I congratulate myself on being taught, but I am sorry
- 1:10:33Speaker 1: that I comprehend not for what shall I say? That
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: whatsoever the law saith, it saith to those under the law,
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: And that this was spoken principally to the former people,
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: but as a likeness of the faithful, but as an
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: image of those who should be, as the Apostle saith. Now,
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: all these things happened unto them for examples, and they
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: the world are come. And again all which things in
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: them were a shadow of good things to come. Certainly,
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: thou are thyself acknowledgest that these things were spoken to
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: publicans and sinners, that is a lowly people. And therefore
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: the younger say, then, is not the Christian people itself?
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: That younger people? Hath it not grown together into the root?
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: Hath He not compacted these members into one built as
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: it is written upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. Is he the
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: God of the Jews only? Is he not also of
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: the gentiles? Yes, of the gentiles also, for there is
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: one God who justifieth the ungodly by faith and the
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: circumcision through faith. Certainly, that lowly people, whom God compared
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: to the peace of silver, the younger son and the sheep,
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: was the church. Whence our apostles, whence is the whole
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: assembly of believers? Whence the Christian people to this body?
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: Then are joined our members also, and all portions of
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: believers out of the wild olive tree of the gentiles,
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: that they might grow together into a good olive tree,
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: partaking as the apostles saith of its fatness, and so
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: we might be all one in Christ, jew and Greek,
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: bond and free. If therefore we, with those lowly ones,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: are one body. Those things which were said to the
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: lowly among the ancients were spoken also to us. And
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: thus whatever was declared to a part of the body
- 1:12:20Speaker 1: was announced to the whole body. I will speak more
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: plainly still, this latter, this poor, this lowly people, was
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: an image of the Church, the humble and modest soul,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: the soul delivered through Christ. This the Lord came to save.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: This he left not in hell. This is the sheep
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: which is carried back on the shoulders, that is, with
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: the effort and might of patience. This the piece of silver,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: which is looked for, and when found, is shown unto
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: the neighbours. Seest thou, how its fashion is like unto
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: the similitude of penitence. Seest thou, that mercy is extended
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: even to this time. Seest thou that whatever was spoken
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: to the Church and its birth relates also to the
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Church in its fullness. Thence did the Lord then add, likewise,
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: more than ninety or nine, just persons which need no repentance.
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: For if all these things were written for our admonition,
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: to whom I ask, shall that sinful, humble people be
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: compared but to the penitent people. And if the figures
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: recurring in regular order, the ninety and nine sheep that
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: were safe are the whole church. But the one that
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: strayed in that small portion of offenders, the piece of
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: money which was lost, is that wretched sinner. Let the sun,
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: returning after his evil ways, beheld the pattern of him
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: that is redeemed. Thou now seest that I rightly set down,
- 1:13:41Speaker 1: when treating of the cure of penitence, that the Lord said,
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: they that are whole have no need of the physician.
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: But they that are sick, and rightly again, blessed are
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: they that mourn, for they shall be comforted. Whatsoever was
- 1:13:53Speaker 1: said of publicans and sinners will apply to all that
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: are sick and all that are miserable. Thou say it
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: was written of martyrs only blessed are they that mourn?
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: Does no one bewail his sins? Besides them? Doth not
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: David cry every night? Wash I my bed and again,
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: for I have eaten ashes as it were, bred, and
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: mingled my drink with weeping. Saith not, Jacob, few and
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: evil have the years of my life been? Does not
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: the apostle write to Timothy greatly desiring to see thee,
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: being mindful of thy tears? And yet he spoke not
- 1:14:25Speaker 1: this of a martyr. What now are the eyes of
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: the wretched penitence dry? And they who grieve that they
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: have sinned, know they not how to weep? We ourselves,
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: the communicants, wee the faithful, have not we tears? Have
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: any one of us pleasure in rejoicing when the world
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: rejoiceth Ye novations, Now ye are full, Now ye are rich.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: Ye have reigned as kings without us. It is not then,
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: they only who are miserable, who are the objects of commiseration.
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: Your next proposition is that it is written by the
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: Lord all manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
- 1:15:01Speaker 1: unto men. But whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: shall not be forgiven him. Neither in this world, neither
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: in the world to come. Either I am mistaken, or
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: this example makes against thee. For if all manner of
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven, Thou seest that pardon
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: is not denied to penitence all sin, then even blasphemy itself.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: Then according to Luke you have it added. And whosoever
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: shall sin against the son of Man, it shall be
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: forgiven him. What can be more large than this? As
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: to the mercy of God, the clemency of the judge
- 1:15:32Speaker 1: is not thine eye evil. Because the householder is good,
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: may not he do what he willeth? Moreover, who art
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: thou that judgest a servant to his own master? He
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: standeth or falleth yea God is able to make him stand.
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: But he that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit he saith
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: shall not be forgiven. Thou usually readest the whole lessons.
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: Why didst not thou read here what that meanth against
- 1:15:57Speaker 1: the spirit? Thou hast written above that when our Lord
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: was casting out devils by his word, and performing many
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: other deeds by the power of the spirit, the Pharisee said,
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: this fellow doth not cast out devils but by Beelzebub,
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: the prince of the devils. This it is to have
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: sinned against the Holy Spirit, to have blasphemed against those
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: things which were wrought by the Holy Spirit. For in
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: other sins we either fall through error, or are conquered
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: by fear, or are overcome by the infirmity of the flesh.
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: This is the blindness of not seeing what thou seest
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: imputing to the devil the works of the Holy Spirit,
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: and calling that glory of God by which the devil
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: himself is overcome the power of the devil. This it is, then,
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: which shall not be forgiven. All other things, Brother, Simpronian,
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: are forgiven to good penitence. After this, Thou thus givest
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: the instances of the branches and the vine. In John,
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: the Lord saith, I am the true vine, and my
- 1:16:53Speaker 1: father is the Husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth
- 1:16:57Speaker 1: not fruit he taketh away, and every branch that beareth
- 1:17:00Speaker 1: fruit he purgeth it. Thou seest then that in the
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: branches fruit is required, that is good works of repentance,
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: as John says, bring forth. Therefore fruits meet for repentance.
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: Thou seest that the branches are purged. This purging is
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: the destruction of the flesh, the loss of joy, the
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: loss of inheritance, the toils of life. And these are
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: the peculiar acts of penitence. You see also that the
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: husbandman is the lord who destroyeth not even the very branches,
- 1:17:27Speaker 1: but purgeth and gathereth some certainly for the fire, some
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: to renew and plant again his vineyards. E lie the priest,
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: Thou sayest speaking saying, if one man sin against another,
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: they shall pray for him. But if a man sin
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: against the Lord, who shall entreat for him in like manner. John,
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: if any man see his brother sinn a sin which
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: give him life. For them that sin not unto death,
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: there is a sin unto death. I do not say
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: that thou shalt pray for it. Thurseus that all this
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: has reference to sins still remaining, not to those persons
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: who have at any time sinned and begun to repent
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: before any one asketh for them. It were a long
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: task to unfold the instances. Remark, all the sins which
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: God threatens, Thou wilt at once see that they are
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: present sins. But if his past righteousness shall not profit
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: the righteous in the time of his iniquity. Neither shall
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: his wickedness, which he hath forsaken, hurt the wicked man
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: in the time of his righteousness. For it is written
- 1:18:31Speaker 1: that the wicked forsake his way and the unrighteous man
- 1:18:33Speaker 1: his thoughts, and let him return unto the Lord, and
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: he shall obtain mercy. But if God hath punished even
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: past sins, tell me hath he it not in his
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: own power to change his sentence against him to whom
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: he hath appointed punishment and suffering for things passed and overlooked?
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: Did he not deliver raehab nebuquitd nezz the King, the Gibeonites,
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: the Ninevites, and Zoah from the destruction foretold? Doth not
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: Joel thus speak in his name? Turn unto the Lord
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: your God, with all your heart, and with fasting, and
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: with weeping and with mourning. For he is gracious and merciful,
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: slow to anger, and of great kindness, and repenteth him
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: of the evil, who knoweth if he will return and
- 1:19:13Speaker 1: repent and leave a blessing behind him. Wherefore, if thou
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: shalt have anyhow proved that punishment is appointed for the sinner.
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: Thou must allow this, either that it is appointed for
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: enduring sins, or that liberty is left a god of
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: changing his sentence in their favor on repentance. Thou sayest
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: it is further written, if thy hand or thy foot
- 1:19:34Speaker 1: offend THEE, cast them from THEE. The meaning of this
- 1:19:37Speaker 1: Moses foretold by the testimony of the Book of Deuteronomy.
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: If thy brother, for these are our eyes and our hands,
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: or thy daughter, or thy wife which is in thy bosom,
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice THEE,
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: saying let us go and serve other gods which thou
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: hast not known. Then he added below, thou shalt accuse him,
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: and thine hand shall be upon him to put him
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: to death. Dost thou see then that this was not
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: spoken of penitence, but of those who not only themselves
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: persevere in wickedness, but also cease not to put stumbling
- 1:20:07Speaker 1: blocks in our way. These, however dear they be, we
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: must relinquish, however useful we must abandon. Further, Thou settest
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: forth that the apostle Paul said, put away from among
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: yourselves the evil thing, the evil which continues, that is,
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: but repentance is not an evil. For David saith. It
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: is a good thing to make confession unto the Lord.
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: And yet he who is doing penance is not with me,
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: nor is he joined in the portion of the saints,
- 1:20:34Speaker 1: nor in peace. But the apostle saith. If any man
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: that is called a brother be a faunicata, or covetous,
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: an extortioner, with such an one not even to eat,
- 1:20:46Speaker 1: thou seest that not without cause doth it stand if
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: he be i e one who is not yet penitent,
- 1:20:52Speaker 1: who has not ceased to be wicked. And certainly the
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: same words apply to the covetous, to drunkards, and to railers. Answer, Brother,
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: is no one of this kind comprehended in your communion?
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: Thence then is it that God crieth by Isiah the
- 1:21:07Speaker 1: destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together,
- 1:21:11Speaker 1: not of the penitent, not of those who are busied
- 1:21:13Speaker 1: in works of mercy, to whom God saith again in
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: the same Isiah. Though your sins be as scarlet, they
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: shall be as white as snow. Though they be red
- 1:21:21Speaker 1: like crimson, they shall be as wool. Nevertheless, thou sayest
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: the Apostle condemned him that erred for in the first
- 1:21:28Speaker 1: Epistle to the Corinthians. He saith thus, for I verily,
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: as absent in body but present in spirit, have already
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: judged concerning him, that hath so done this deed in
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. When ye are
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: gathered together with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: to deliver such in one unto Satan for the destruction
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: the day of the Lord Jesus mark brother. First that
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: he condemns not those with whom this man is in communion.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: He alone, who had done this deed, is delivered to Satan.
- 1:21:59Speaker 1: He only is excommunicated, the peace of the Saints being
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: kept entire Ye, for one sinner condemn all churches. Next,
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: thou seest that this very incestuous sinner is not delivered
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: to death, but to Satan, to be reformed, to be buffeted,
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: to repent. Lastly, he says, for the destruction of the flesh,
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: not however, of the soul, not even of the spirit. Also,
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: but for the destruction of the flesh only trials, namely
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: straits in the flesh, wearing of the members. As in
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: another place, he saith of them who refrain not. Nevertheless,
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: such shall have trouble in the flesh. Wouldst thou know?
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: In the second Epistle to the Corinthians, the same Paul
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: absolves this same wicked man, for of him he saith
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: sufficient to such a man. Is this punishment which was
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: inflicted of many, so that contrariwise ye ought rather to
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: forgive him and comfort him, lest perhaps such an one
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: should be swallowed up with over much sorrow. Wherefore I
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
- 1:23:00Speaker 1: And so below to whom ye forgive anything, I forgive also,
- 1:23:04Speaker 1: for if I forgave anything to whom I forgave it
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: for your sakes, forgave I it in the person of Christ,
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: lest Satan should get an advantage of us. Seest thou
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: the indulgence of the apostle, tempering even his own sentences.
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: Seest thou, his most gentle leniity, so far removed from
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: your pride, widely differing from the front which nervation assumes,
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: but consulting for the common life and salvation of all.
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: But thou inveyest against us, also with the severity of
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: a censer. Thou sayest that according to the law of Heaven,
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: it is not allowed to break one of the commandments,
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: that lambs ought not to hold communion with wolves, and
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: that all consenting unto such is in fault. That he
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: then who toucheth pitch is defiled, And that there is
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: no society of light with darkness, of the Temple of
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: God with idols, or agreement of Christ with belial. Thou
- 1:23:55Speaker 1: sayest at last, that we rescind the commandments of God?
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: Do we alter one tittle of the law? Or the Novations, rather,
- 1:24:03Speaker 1: who have violated all laws of the Church, all laws
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: of concord, who, after so many years of peace, so
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: many sacred treaties, have produced these new laws of yours,
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: new customs, new rights, feigning sanctity under an inexorable front,
- 1:24:18Speaker 1: a sanctity heretofore unknown. Do we receive wolves into the
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: church who avoid the very faces of heretics, or the Novations, rather,
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: who themselves rapacious wolves shudder at the poor sheep, but
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: little more wretched than themselves. Do we consent unto the wicked,
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: Do we touch pitch? Have we fellowship with darkness? Do
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: we join ourselves unto idols and unto bellile? Or have
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: they who received Evaristus, who received Nicostratus, and the others
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: who left the church defiled in tongue in hand in life?
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: Have we dealing with adulterers and thieves? Or they who
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: preferred Novatus over their own lives and heads? After he
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: had embezzled the money of orphans and widows, the murder
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: of his wretched parent and of his wife's offspring not
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: only not penitent, but even glorying. But the apostle Paul said,
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: lay hands suddenly on no man. Yet he teacheth that
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: slowly and after repentance, it must not be refused. Yet
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: at the destruction of Jericho Acan, the son of Kami
- 1:25:20Speaker 1: was put to death for stealing a garment. Slay ye, then,
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: all who have stolen our money and our books, and
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: exercise your fury against the bones of Novatus. Take upon
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: you again that yoke which neither our fathers nor we
- 1:25:32Speaker 1: were able to bear. Why delay ye owe ovations to
- 1:25:35Speaker 1: ask I for eye, tooth for tooth, to demand life,
- 1:25:38Speaker 1: for life to renew once more the practice of circumcision
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: and the Sabbath put to death for thief. Stone the
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: petulant choose not to read in the Gospel that the
- 1:25:46Speaker 1: Lord spared even the adulteress who confessed when none had
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: condemned her, that he absolved the sinner who washed his
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: feet with her tears, that he delivered rayhab at Jericho
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: itself a city of the Phoenicians, That he said, tam
- 1:26:00Speaker 1: are free from the sentence of the patriarch, That when
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: the Sodomites also perished, he destroyed not the daughters of Lot,
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: willing likewise to have delivered his sons in law had
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: they believed the destruction to come come. Dost thou not
- 1:26:14Speaker 1: remember that the Lord saith by David with them that
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: hated peace, was I peaceful? And that the sentence of
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: Solomon is not withheld. When he saith a brother, that
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: helpeth a brother shall be exalted. What says the apostle brethren,
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness,
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: considering thyself lest thou also be tempted, bear ye one
- 1:26:39Speaker 1: another's burdens, And so shall ye fulfill the law of Christ.
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: And again, which I have quoted before, I could wish
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: that myself were accursed from Christ, for my brethren, my kinsmen,
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: according to the flesh. And again I am made all
- 1:26:51Speaker 1: things to all men, that I might, by all means
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: save all that is, so as to share their groans
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: with the wounded, suffering, with the sick, death, with the dye,
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: to be able to blend the fall of brethren with
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: his own standing, to abate from his own health, and
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: apply medicine to the sinking. What profiteth it you to
- 1:27:09Speaker 1: harden yourselves with an haughty and hard brow, to be
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: stiff and bear your necks high, to turn away your
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: faces from the miserable, to close the ear and eye?
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: Have ye, I pray you never fallen? Is there no
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: stain on your minds, no mote I pray in your eyes?
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: Who will boast that he hath a clean heart, or
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: that he is free from sins? Ye I suppose are
- 1:27:30Speaker 1: just benevolent, temperate. Your members are all sound, your whole
- 1:27:33Speaker 1: body unharmed. Ye have no need of a physician, nor
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: of medicine for weakness. Enter ye heaven at once penetrate
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: the approaches to paradise, while the sword gives way. Before
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: you close your holy gifts against so many nations of
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: ours who confess the one and only God. But if
- 1:27:50Speaker 1: they are in a far different state from that which
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: the implacable rigor of nature and your cruelty pretend, ye
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: must see now own ovations that God can have mercy,
- 1:28:01Speaker 1: Now that a remedy, late, though it be, is open
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: to wretched brethren who confess what is past. Now that
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: that wounded man pass by by the Levite and priest
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: can be healed by Christ. Now that the prayers of
- 1:28:14Speaker 1: the Church are not to be refused to the humble,
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: Now that the hands of the priests are to be
- 1:28:18Speaker 1: imparted to those brethren who deserve pity. But we understand,
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: as thou reproachest us, that the Church of God is
- 1:28:25Speaker 1: a dove, not bitter with gall not fierce, nor rending,
- 1:28:29Speaker 1: with talons white, moreover, with small and tender plumage. We
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: know likewise that being the well of living water and
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: a fountain sealed, it is defiled with no filth of
- 1:28:39Speaker 1: engulfing heresy, and that it is a garden enclosed and
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: full of herbs greater alike and small vile and precious.
- 1:28:46Speaker 1: That it is the eight souls from the Ark, among whom,
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: however was ham also and those thousands of birds and
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: beasts in pairs and in sevens, clean alike and unclean.
- 1:28:57Speaker 1: But by the dry fountains and clouds married about of winds,
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: we understand the barrenness of heretics and the assaults of
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: strangers voices. Neither do we promise liberty, when we are
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: ourselves the servants of punishment. But we confess our sins
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: and exhort the rest also to confess theirs, and to
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: believe on him who justifieth the wicked by faith, who
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: revoketh the sentence pronounced against wickedness. When also we avoid you,
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: we beware of false prophets and ravening wolves. But we
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: believe that Janis and Mambres withstood Moses, as ye do
- 1:29:29Speaker 1: the Catholics. Whence the Apostle layeth it down. Thus, now
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: as Janus and Mamres withstood Moses, so do these also
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: resist the truth. Men of corrupt minds reprobate concerning the faith.
- 1:29:41Speaker 1: But they shall proceed no further, for their folly shall
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was that
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: this was spoken against you is clear, for ye can
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: neither proceed further nor hide your folly. He that is
- 1:29:54Speaker 1: washed by the dead profiteth nothing. He that is, who
- 1:29:57Speaker 1: is dipped in an heretical fountain, and in like manner,
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: he who is anointed with the oil of the sinner,
- 1:30:03Speaker 1: who is filled, that is, with an unclean spirit. So
- 1:30:06Speaker 1: then ye shall be also children of blood. For ye
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: desire not the peace, but the blood of brethren. Your
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: cruelty is of false faith, and heretical congregation is an
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: adulterous woman. For the Catholic hath never from the beginning
- 1:30:18Speaker 1: left the couch and the chamber of her spouse, nor
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: gone after other strange lovers. Ye have painted a divorced
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: form in new colors. Ye have withdrawn your couch from
- 1:30:28Speaker 1: the old wedlock. Ye have left the body of a mother,
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: the wife of one husband, decking yourself out with new
- 1:30:35Speaker 1: arts of pleasing, new allurements of corruption. For whereas ye
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: bring forward as a witness against me the most blessed Cyprian,
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: because in his epistle on the Lapsed he says that
- 1:30:45Speaker 1: Moses and Daniel and Job prayed for sinners and obtained
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: not our Lord saying, though Noah, Daniel and Job were
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: in it, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter. They
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness. Would
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: would ye did lie on the witness of Cyprian, would
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: ye acquiesced in doctrines so salutary? For when he was
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: urging the lapse to penance, who were unwilling to do
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: penance because they said that they had received peace from
- 1:31:12Speaker 1: confessors or martyrs, he taught and showed that not even
- 1:31:15Speaker 1: those patriarchs obtained anything for the unrepentant. For who can
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: deliver one unwilling? Who can humble himself for the proud?
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: Who obtain anything for the unrepentant. So when he said this,
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: he was constraining them to the remedies of penance. Nor
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: did a man of such gravity and merit in any
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: wise contradict himself. But he taught that the sinner must
- 1:31:36Speaker 1: pour forth prayer and must love confession. These examples, however,
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: of Cyprian, shake you, in which he relates that both
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: Moses and other saints who prayed for sinners obtained not
- 1:31:46Speaker 1: their request. Sayest thou seest thou not for whom Moses
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: obtained not his request returned to the people what heareth
- 1:31:55Speaker 1: he in the camp, the voices of drunkards and the
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: songs of the idol sacrifice were resounding through it. The
- 1:32:01Speaker 1: people were still persevering in wickedness, still remaining in the
- 1:32:05Speaker 1: very crime. But repentance, it knew not. And yet two
- 1:32:09Speaker 1: of us told thee that Moses obtained not his request.
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: God indeed had said unto him, whosoever hath sinned against
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: me him, I will blot out of my book. He
- 1:32:18Speaker 1: had spoken, however, with the authority of a judge and
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: with the power of a lord. But see how soon
- 1:32:23Speaker 1: he turned back the sentence pronounced against the wickedness of
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: the people. Listen immediately in the same place, the prophet
- 1:32:30Speaker 1: saith and Moses besought the Lord, his God, Lord, why
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people? And so on?
- 1:32:38Speaker 1: Then again below and the Lord repented of the evil
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: which he thought to do unto his people. Seest thou
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: that the anger of God was softened. Seest thou that
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: the offense was atoned for. And he prayed for people,
- 1:32:49Speaker 1: not praying nor repenting what they had done. But Noah,
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: thou sayest, and Daniel and Job could not deliver sons
- 1:32:57Speaker 1: nor daughters. And the meaning of this is, if they
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: should ask for them who asked not themselves, if they
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: should pray for him that persevered in crime, if they
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: would throw their protection not over individuals, not a few,
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: but many thousands. Yet Noah delivered his own household from
- 1:33:15Speaker 1: the general ruin, and job received again all that which
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: he lost, And Daniel, by prayer removed that sword which
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: was hanging over the wise men of Babylon. Lot. Certainly
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: prayeth for the safety of a city, Paul for the
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: passengers of the ship, so they who know how to
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: repent are absolved by help of the righteous. Lastly, look
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: even at the very words which are written, they only
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: shall be delivered. Who are they those same who pray
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: for sinners, shall pray for such with impunity? And why
- 1:33:47Speaker 1: condemnest thou the Church? Why forbiddest thou to pray for
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: the penitent? If we may pray even for those for
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: whom we may not obtain. Read therefore, my Cyprian, with
- 1:33:57Speaker 1: more care, read the whole epistle on the laps. Read
- 1:33:59Speaker 1: an another which he wrote to Antonianus, in which novation
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: is pressed by examples of all sorts. Then thou wilt
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: learn what he pronounced as to the healing of penitence. Cyprian,
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: I say, who is opposed to you and adhered to
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: the Catholic laws to Tullian after he had fallen into heresy.
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: For you have taken much from this source. You may
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: hear himself in his epistle and that same which he published.
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: When a Catholic confess that the Church can forgive sins,
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: thou seest then that the Church is a queen in
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: a vesture of gold, wrought about, with diverse colors consisting,
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: that is, of many diverse bodies, and of many people.
- 1:34:36Speaker 1: This painting is not of one color. Nor doth this
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: great diversity glisten in one garment. This part of her
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: array covereth another adorneth. One part is fitted to the bosom.
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: Another sweeps along in the lowest fold and contracts defilement
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: in the very active walking part is likened to the
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: purple of martyrs, part to virgin silk. A part is
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: sowed on beneath in folds, or repaired by the stitches
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: of the needle. One after this manner, and another after that.
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: And yet in all is she made one queen Therefore
- 1:35:08Speaker 1: she is also a fruitful and rich vine, with many branches,
- 1:35:11Speaker 1: and the varied tresses of many a tendril. Look are
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: there everywhere, large clusters, is every grapeful swelled. Have none
- 1:35:19Speaker 1: of these suffered from the winter cold? Has none endured
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: the rough hail, has none to accuse the burning heat
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: of summer. One bud is studded, thicker with shoots, Another
- 1:35:28Speaker 1: is stronger, another cleaner. One bursts forth into fruit, another
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: only into exuberance of leaves. Yet is she a vine
- 1:35:36Speaker 1: in every part beautiful? She is the mother of virgins
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: without number. Calculate now, if thou canst the Catholic flocks,
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: and count on thy fingers the swarms of our people,
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: Not those only which are scattered throughout the whole world
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: and fill whole regions, but those brother simpronian, which are
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: with thee in the nearest borders and in the neighboring city.
- 1:35:57Speaker 1: Contemplate how many of us you alone, see, how many
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: people of mind you alone meet? Art not thou absorbed
- 1:36:03Speaker 1: as eaves droppings in great fountains, as a single drop
- 1:36:07Speaker 1: by the ocean. Say say, are these virgins the offspring
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: of your people? Art thou alone the mother of so many.
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: This queen, I say, is ours, the chosen of her mother,
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: and perfect. Nothing indeed can be chosen except what is
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: better and greater from another. Nothing can be perfect except
- 1:36:24Speaker 1: what is full. Next, consider this, whether she is not
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: especially built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets,
- 1:36:32Speaker 1: Jesus Christ himself being the chief cornerstone. If her beginning
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: was before thee, if her belief was before thee, if
- 1:36:39Speaker 1: she hath not left her former foundations, if she hath
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: not moved them, if she hath not separated from the
- 1:36:45Speaker 1: rest of the body and appointed her own rulers for
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: herself and peculiar documents. Well, if she hath made unreceived interpretations,
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: if she hath invented some new law, if she hath
- 1:36:56Speaker 1: given a divorce from peace to her own body, then
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: clearly may she seemed to have left Christ. Then may
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: she seem to stand apart from prophets and apostles. This
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: then will be the great house, rich in diversity of
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: all vessels, in which glistens the pure gold, in which
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: gleans the ductile silver, but which despises not, as it
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: is written, the vessels of wood and earth. For a
- 1:37:19Speaker 1: great house employeth many services, is busied about various works.
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: It seeks not silver only, nor is delighted with ornament
- 1:37:27Speaker 1: of gold alone. Now and then what is of slight
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: account is more ornament to things great, And in a
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: noble suite, things little are sometimes pleasing. No workman despiseth
- 1:37:38Speaker 1: his own work, nor thinks that vile which he hath made.
- 1:37:42Speaker 1: And whence was it? Thinkest thou that Christ suffered for sinners,
- 1:37:45Speaker 1: except that he was unwilling to lose anything which he
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: himself formed. Whence was it? Thinkest thou that he even
- 1:37:53Speaker 1: now intercedeth with the Father for the miserable, except that
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: he repels not him of little worth, even though he
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: be most despised. None of those whom he has received
- 1:38:02Speaker 1: he would lose, although compared to vessels of wood and earth.
- 1:38:06Speaker 1: And so he putteth together in his house all vessels.
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: At length, Brother Simpronian, be not ashamed to be with
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: the many. At length, consent to despise these festering spots
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: of the novations, and these pairings of yours, at length,
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: to look upon the flocks of the Catholics and the
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: people of the Church, extending so far and wide, where
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: one is thou wilt say, there am I also? And
- 1:38:30Speaker 1: where two are there is the church where one yet
- 1:38:33Speaker 1: in concord, where too, but at peace? Where one is
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: there is the church also? How much more, where are
- 1:38:40Speaker 1: many two, it saith, are better than one? And a
- 1:38:44Speaker 1: threefold cord is not broken. Here what David saith, I
- 1:38:48Speaker 1: will sing unto thy name in the great congregation, And
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: again I will praise thee among much people, and the Lord,
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: even the most mighty God, hath spoken and called the
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: world from the rising of the sun unto the going
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: down thereof What shall the seed of Abraham, which is
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: as the stars and the sand on the sea shore
- 1:39:06Speaker 1: for number be contented with your poverty in thy seed?
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: He saith, shall all the nations of the earth be blessed? Say?
- 1:39:14Speaker 1: Does novation make these up? Not? Thus little hath God
- 1:39:18Speaker 1: redeemed by his own blood? Nor is Christ so poor recognized. Now, Brother,
- 1:39:22Speaker 1: the Church of God, extending her tabernacles and fixing the
- 1:39:25Speaker 1: stakes of her curtains on the right and on the left,
- 1:39:29Speaker 1: understand that the Lord's name is praised from the rising
- 1:39:32Speaker 1: up of the sun unto the going down thereof See. See,
- 1:39:35Speaker 1: I beg you that whilst the novations are striving over words.
- 1:39:39Speaker 1: The riches of Catholics are being dispersed throughout the world.
- 1:39:43Speaker 1: I have now instructed THEE on all points about which
- 1:39:46Speaker 1: thou hast consulted me. I have passed over no head
- 1:39:49Speaker 1: or sentence of your propositions. I have answered every tittle
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: and word. If you inquired, as one consulting, I have
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: shown you lovingly. If as one attacking, I have argued
- 1:39:59Speaker 1: not in diligently, I will add when I shall have
- 1:40:01Speaker 1: leisure another epistle, also in which I will not confute
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: your views, but set forth hours. And if you read
- 1:40:08Speaker 1: it with good feeling and without fastidiousness, perchance it may
- 1:40:12Speaker 1: not hurt you. Meanwhile, in this epistle I beg you
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: to read each and all parts of it thoroughly. All
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: that is read in haste passes away. If thou cravest
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: better gifts and hast a soul open to good instruction,
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: thou wilt not easily despise things So true. The Lord
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: vouchsafe to guard and protect THEE forever, and make THEE
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: live a Christian to the unity of the Spirit Amen.
- 1:40:35Speaker 1: End of Section three Section four of the Extant Works
- 1:40:46Speaker 1: of Saint passin of Barcelona, translated by Charles Henry Collins.
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: This LibriVox recording is in the public domain. Treatise of
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: Exhortation unto penance. Although I have spoken several times, however,
- 1:41:02Speaker 1: hurriedly of the cure of penitence, still mindful of the
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: Lord's solicitude, who, for the loss of one poor sheep,
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: spared not even his own neck and shoulders, carrying back
- 1:41:14Speaker 1: the delicate sinner to the reintegrated flock. I shall endeavor
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: as I can to build up, even with my pen
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: the example of so great excellence, and as a servant,
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: shall imitate, with the humility becoming me the industry of
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: the Lord's labor. My only fear is dearly beloved, lest
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: by the unhappiness of wanted contrariety. By insisting on what
- 1:41:36Speaker 1: is done, I should teach rather than repress sins. And that,
- 1:41:41Speaker 1: after the example of the Athenian Solomon, it would be
- 1:41:44Speaker 1: better to be silent concerning great crimes than to warn
- 1:41:48Speaker 1: against them, the morals of our age having gone so
- 1:41:51Speaker 1: far that men deem themselves reminded when they are forbidden.
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: For this, I suppose has very lately been the effect
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: of my servulus. Though the offense has been wrought, the
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: more diligently, the more earnestly it was branded. And all
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: that censure of a disgrace, visibly stamped and often repeated,
- 1:42:10Speaker 1: seems not to have repressed, but to have taught wantonness,
- 1:42:14Speaker 1: wretched man that I am, Where has been my guilt?
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: They had not known, I suppose how to act the
- 1:42:20Speaker 1: wanton had I not, by blaming taught them, But let
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: that pass. Rebels from God and placed without the Church,
- 1:42:28Speaker 1: are also exasperated by chastisement as a wrong, indignant forsooth
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: that their morals can be blamed by any And as
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: mud is wont then most to stick when you stir it,
- 1:42:39Speaker 1: and fire, then to burn more if you turn it,
- 1:42:42Speaker 1: and madness then to be more fierce if you provoke it.
- 1:42:45Speaker 1: So they, by turning the heel, have broken the pricks
- 1:42:48Speaker 1: of necessary blame. Yet without being hurt and wounded by
- 1:42:52Speaker 1: their resistance. Do ye moreover, most beloved, Remember that it
- 1:42:57Speaker 1: is said by the Lord, reprove a fool, and he
- 1:42:59Speaker 1: will hate thee. Rebuke a wise man, and he will
- 1:43:02Speaker 1: love THEE. And again whom I love, I rebuke and chasten.
- 1:43:05Speaker 1: Do ye then, following lovingly, not obstinately opposing. Believe that
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: the kindly and anxious diligence of this my work, undertaken
- 1:43:14Speaker 1: according to the will of the Lord, by me, your
- 1:43:16Speaker 1: brother and priest, is of love rather than of rigor. Moreover,
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: let no man imagine that this very discourse on the
- 1:43:24Speaker 1: institution of penance is framed for penitence, only lest for
- 1:43:28Speaker 1: this reason whoever is placed without that rank despise what
- 1:43:32Speaker 1: shall be spoken as intended for others. Whereas the discipline
- 1:43:36Speaker 1: of the whole Church is tied, as it were, into
- 1:43:39Speaker 1: this fastening, since catechumens must be careful that they pass
- 1:43:43Speaker 1: not into this state, and the faithful that they return
- 1:43:46Speaker 1: not to it, and penitence themselves must toil to arrive
- 1:43:49Speaker 1: speedily at the fruit of this their work. But in
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: my discourses the order preserved will be this first, to
- 1:43:56Speaker 1: speak of the degrees of sin, that no one think
- 1:43:59Speaker 1: that the the extremest peril is set upon all sins. Whatsoever,
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: then I shall speak of those faithful who are shamed
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: of their remedy, use an ill timed bashfulness, and communicate
- 1:44:10Speaker 1: with body defiled and mind polluted in the sight of
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: men most timid before the Lord most shameless, they contaminate
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: with profane hands and polluted mouth the altar, to be
- 1:44:20Speaker 1: dreaded even by saints and angels. Thirdly, my discourse shall
- 1:44:25Speaker 1: relate to those who, having duly confessed and laid bare
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: their crimes, either know not or refuse the remedies of
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: penance and the very acts belonging to the ministry of confession. Lastly,
- 1:44:38Speaker 1: it shall be our endeavors to show most clearly what
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: will be the punishment of those who either do no
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: penance or even neglect it, and who die therefore in
- 1:44:47Speaker 1: their wound and impostumes. And what again will be their crown,
- 1:44:51Speaker 1: what their reward who purge the stains of their conscience
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: by right and regular confession. First, therefore, as we propose,
- 1:44:59Speaker 1: let us treat of the degree of sinners, diligently searching
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: out what our sins? What are crimes that no one
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: may think that for the innumerable faults from the deceitfulness
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: of which no man is free, I bind the whole
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: human race under one undistinguishing law of penance. With Moses
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: and the ancients, those guilty of even the least sin,
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: and so to speak of one farthing, were immersed in
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: the same estuary of misery, as well those who had
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: broken the Sabbath, as those who had touched what was unclean,
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: who had taken forbidden food, who murmured, or who had
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: entered the temple of the most High King when their
- 1:45:38Speaker 1: wall was leprous, or the garment defiled, or when under
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: this garment had touched the altar with their hand, or
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: with their garment come in contact with it, so that
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: it were easier to ascend into heaven, or better to die,
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: than to have to keep the whole of these commandments.
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: From all these therefore many carnal offenses, besides, that each
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: might more speedily attain his destined end. The blood of
- 1:46:05Speaker 1: the Lord hath delivered us, redeemed from the servitude of
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: the law, and set free in the liberty of the faith.
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: And therefore saith the apostle Paul, for ye have been
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: called unto liberty. This is that liberty that we are
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: not bound by those things whereby they of old were held.
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: But if I may use the expression, the whole entangled
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: mass of our faults being forgiven, and the indulgence of
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: remedies appointed, we are constrained to a few and necessary points, which,
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: whether to keep or to avoid, were most easy for believers,
- 1:46:38Speaker 1: so that he could not deny that he most truly
- 1:46:41Speaker 1: deserved Hell, who ungrateful for so great forgiveness kept not
- 1:46:45Speaker 1: even these few. But what these are? Let us see
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: after the passion of the Law, the Apostles, having considered
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: and treated of all things, delivered an epistle to be
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: sent to such of the Gentiles as had believed, of
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: which letter the import was as follows. The Apostles and
- 1:47:03Speaker 1: elders and Brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are
- 1:47:06Speaker 1: of the gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia. Forasmuch
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: as we have heard that certain which went out from
- 1:47:13Speaker 1: us have troubled you with words so below, it seemed
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: good to the Holy Ghost and to us to lay
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: upon you no greater burden than these necessary things. That
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood,
- 1:47:25Speaker 1: and from fornication, from which if ye keep yourselves ye
- 1:47:28Speaker 1: shall do well. Fare ye well. This is the whole
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: conclusion of the New Testament. The Holy Spirit, despised in
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: those many ordinances, hath left these injunctions to us on
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: condition of hazard of our lives. Other sins are cured
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: by the compensation of better works. But these three crimes
- 1:47:47Speaker 1: we must dread as the breath of some basilisk, as
- 1:47:50Speaker 1: a cup of poison, as a deadly arrow, For they
- 1:47:53Speaker 1: know how not to corrupt only, but to cut off
- 1:47:55Speaker 1: the soul. Wherefore, niggardliness shall be redeemed by liberality. Lander
- 1:48:00Speaker 1: be compensated by satisfaction, moroseness by pleasantness, harshness by gentleness,
- 1:48:05Speaker 1: levity by gravity, perverse ways by honesty, and so in
- 1:48:09Speaker 1: all cases which are well amended by their contraries. But
- 1:48:13Speaker 1: what shall the despiser of God do? What the blood stained?
- 1:48:17Speaker 1: What remedy shall there be? For the faunicator shall either
- 1:48:20Speaker 1: he be able to appease the Lord who hath abandoned him,
- 1:48:24Speaker 1: or he to preserve his own blood, who hath shed another's,
- 1:48:28Speaker 1: or he to restore the temple of God, who hath
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: violated it by fornication. These, my brethren, are capital These
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: are mortal crimes. Now Here, John, and be confident if
- 1:48:39Speaker 1: he can. If any man see his brother sin a
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: sin which is not unto death, let him ask, and
- 1:48:45Speaker 1: the Lord shall give him life. If he have sinned
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: a sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death.
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: I do not say that he shall pray for it,
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: but if you like, he is separately also of each God.
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: Thus address Moses, when praying for the people who had blasphemed.
- 1:49:02Speaker 1: Whosoever hath he saith sinned against me him, I will
- 1:49:05Speaker 1: blot out my book concerning the murderer the Lord. Thus
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: judgeth he that smiteth with the sword, he saith shall
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: die by the sword. And of the faunicate of the
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: Apostle says, defile not the temple of God? Which temple
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: ye are? If any man defile the temple of God,
- 1:49:22Speaker 1: him shall God destroy. These things are written, most beloved brethren,
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: and Engraven, on everlasting monuments written and Engraven, I say,
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: not on wax and paper and brass, or with the pen,
- 1:49:34Speaker 1: but in the book of the Living God, heaven and
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: earth shall pass he saith one jot or one tittle,
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: shall in no wise pass away till all be fulfilled.
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: What then must we die? Many too, have in mind
- 1:49:48Speaker 1: fallen into these sins. Many are guilty of blood, many
- 1:49:51Speaker 1: sold unto idols, many a dolterus. I say moreover that
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: not hands only are involved in murder, But every design
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: also which driven the soul of another to death. And
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: that not only those who have burnt incense on profane altars,
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: but altogether every lust that wandereth beyond the marriage couch
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: and the lawful embrace, is bound by the sentence of death.
- 1:50:13Speaker 1: Whosoever shall have done these things after believing, shall not
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: see the face of God. But those who are guilty
- 1:50:20Speaker 1: of so great crimes are in despair. What have I
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: done unto you? Was it not in your power that
- 1:50:25Speaker 1: it should not be? Did no one warn you? No
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: one foretell it? Was the church silent, said the gospels nothing,
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: did the apostles threaten nothing, did the priest ask nothing?
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: Why seek ye? Late consolations? Then aught ye when ye might.
- 1:50:43Speaker 1: This is a hard saying, But they who call you
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: happy lead you into error and disturb the path of
- 1:50:48Speaker 1: your feet. It shows the way of wickedness to the innocent, who,
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: after their crimes, flatter the guilty. Are we then to perish?
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: Who will someone say, and where there is the merciful God,
- 1:51:01Speaker 1: who devised not death, nor hath pleasure in the destruction
- 1:51:04Speaker 1: of the living, Shall we die in our sins? And
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: what wilt thou do the priest by what gains, Wilt
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: thou repay so many losses to the church. Receive the
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: remedy if ye begin to despair, if he acknowledge yourselves miserable,
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: if he fear, whoso is too confident, is unworthy to
- 1:51:24Speaker 1: this man saith the Lord. I will look even to
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: trembleth at my word. You. Then I first call on brethren, who,
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: having committed crimes, refuse penance. You, I say, timid after
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: being shameless, modest after sinning, who blush not to sin,
- 1:51:43Speaker 1: yet blush to confess, Who with evil conscience touch the
- 1:51:47Speaker 1: holy things of God and fear not the altar of
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: the Lord, Who come to the hands of the priest,
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: Who come in the sight of angels with the confidence
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: of innocence, who insult the divine patience, who bring to
- 1:51:58Speaker 1: God as if because silence and he knew not a
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: polluted soul and a profane body. Here first what the
- 1:52:05Speaker 1: Lord hath done, and then what he hath said. When
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: the people of the Hebrews were bringing back the ark
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: of the Lord to Jerusalem, Uza from the house of Aminadab,
- 1:52:14Speaker 1: the Israelite, who had touched the side of the ark,
- 1:52:17Speaker 1: without having examined his conscience was slain. And yet he
- 1:52:21Speaker 1: had drawn near, not to take anything from it, but
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: to hold it, when leaning through the stumbling of the kind.
- 1:52:27Speaker 1: So great a care was there of reverence towards God,
- 1:52:30Speaker 1: that he endured not bold hands even in help. The
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: same also the Lord crieth, saying, as for the flesh,
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: all that be clean shall eat thereof, but the soul
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: that eateth of the flesh of the sacrifice of peace offerings,
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: having his uncleanness upon him, that soul shall be cut
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: off from his people. Are these things old and happen
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: they not? Now? What then hath God ceased to care
- 1:52:52Speaker 1: for what concerns us? Had he withdrawn out of view
- 1:52:55Speaker 1: of the world, And doth he look down upon no
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: one from heaven? Is his long suffering ignorance. God forbid
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: thou'lt say he seeth then what we do. But He
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: waiteth indeed, and endureth, and granteth a season for repentance,
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: and alloweth his Christ to put off the end lest
- 1:53:11Speaker 1: they quickly perish whom he hath redeemed. Understand well, thou sinner,
- 1:53:15Speaker 1: thou art beheld by God. Thou canst appease him, if
- 1:53:18Speaker 1: thou wilt, but grant that it is a thing of
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: old that the unclean were not permitted to approach the
- 1:53:24Speaker 1: table of God. Open the writings of the apostles, and
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: learn what is of later date. In the First Epistle
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: to the Corinthians, Paul Hath inserted these words, whosoever he
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: saith shall eat this bread and drink this cup of
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: the Lord unworthily shall be guilty of the body and
- 1:53:39Speaker 1: blood of the Lord. So likewise below, for he that
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh damnation to himself,
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are
- 1:53:51Speaker 1: weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord,
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: that we should not be condemned with the world. Do
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: ye tremble or not shall be guilty he saith of
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: the body and blood of the Lord. One guilty as
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: to human life could not be absolv'd. Doth he escape
- 1:54:13Speaker 1: who violates the body of the Lord. He that eateth
- 1:54:16Speaker 1: and drinketh unworthily, he saith eateth and drinketh dw nation
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: to himself. Awake, O sinner, fear judgment present within thee.
- 1:54:25Speaker 1: If thou hast done any such thing for this cause,
- 1:54:27Speaker 1: he saith, many are weak and sickly among you, and
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: many sleep. If then any one fears not the future,
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: let him now at least dread present sickness and present death.
- 1:54:36Speaker 1: But when we are judged, he saith, we are chastened
- 1:54:38Speaker 1: of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with
- 1:54:41Speaker 1: the world. Rejoice, O sinner, If in this life thou
- 1:54:45Speaker 1: art either cut off by death or wasted by sickness,
- 1:54:49Speaker 1: that thou be not punished in the life to come.
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: See how great wickedness he committeth. Who cometh when unworthy
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: to the altar, to whom it is reckoned as a
- 1:54:58Speaker 1: remedy if he either labors under sickness or is destroyed
- 1:55:01Speaker 1: by death. But if your own soul is of little
- 1:55:04Speaker 1: value to you, spare the people, spare the priests. The
- 1:55:07Speaker 1: apostle saith, a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. What
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: wilt thou do by whose means the whole lump is corrupted?
- 1:55:14Speaker 1: Through whom the whole brotherhood shall suffer. Shalt thou live
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: guiltily of so many souls? Shalt thou be excused when
- 1:55:21Speaker 1: the innocent have imputed to THEE their communion, when the
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: Church shall have named THEE as the author of her desolation.
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: Behold again, the apostle sayth to the priest, lay hands
- 1:55:32Speaker 1: suddenly on no man neither be partaker of other men's sins.
- 1:55:36Speaker 1: What wilt thou do who deceivest the priest, who either
- 1:55:40Speaker 1: misleadest him, if ignorant or not fully knowing, perplexest him
- 1:55:44Speaker 1: with the difficulty of proof. I beseech you, therefore, brethren,
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: by that Lord, from whom no secrets are hid, even
- 1:55:51Speaker 1: in consideration of my danger, cease ye from hiding the
- 1:55:55Speaker 1: wounds of your consciences. The wise, when sick, fear not
- 1:55:58Speaker 1: the physician, not even when about to cut, not even
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: when about to burn them in the secret parts of
- 1:56:04Speaker 1: the body. We have heard of some who, not ashamed
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: even as to parts of the body, withdrawn by modesty
- 1:56:11Speaker 1: from sight, have endured the pains of the knife, and
- 1:56:14Speaker 1: of cautery, and even of the corrosive powder. And how
- 1:56:18Speaker 1: great then is the endurance which men have shown, shall
- 1:56:22Speaker 1: the sinner fear? Shall the sinner blush to purchase everlasting
- 1:56:25Speaker 1: life by present shame, and withdraw his ill concealed wounds
- 1:56:28Speaker 1: from the Lord when he stretcheth forth his hands, And
- 1:56:32Speaker 1: hath he anything whereat to blush before the priest who
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: hath injured the Lord? Or is it better that he
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: should thus be lost? Lest thou, shrinking from shame, shouldst
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: without shame perish. By not giving way to shame, Thou
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: wouldst gain more through its loss, thou for whom it
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: were better to perish for thyself. But if ye are
- 1:56:51Speaker 1: ashamed that the eyes of your brethren should see, fear
- 1:56:54Speaker 1: not those who are partners in your misfortune. No body
- 1:56:57Speaker 1: is glad at the suffering of its own members, sid
- 1:56:59Speaker 1: grew leaves with them, and labors with them for a remedy.
- 1:57:03Speaker 1: In one or two is the Church, and in the
- 1:57:06Speaker 1: Church is Christ. And he therefore, who hides not his
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: sins from the brethren, assisted by the tears of the Church,
- 1:57:12Speaker 1: is absolved by Christ. And now I would address those
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: who well and wisely confessing their wounds under the name
- 1:57:19Speaker 1: of penance. Neither know what penance is, nor what the
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: cure for their wounds, and like those who lay bare,
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: indeed their wounds and swellings, and acknowledge them. Also to
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: the physician who sitteth by, But when warned what is
- 1:57:32Speaker 1: to be applied, neglect it and refuse what they have
- 1:57:35Speaker 1: to take. This is just as if one should say, low,
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: I am sick, Low I am wounded, but I wish
- 1:57:41Speaker 1: not to be cured. Such is it, But see a
- 1:57:44Speaker 1: thing still more foolish. Another disease is added to the
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: original cause, and a new wound inflicted. All that is
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: just contrary is applied. All that is hurtful is drank
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: under this evil. Especially doth our brotherhood labor adding on
- 1:57:59Speaker 1: to old faults new sins. Therefore hath it burst forth
- 1:58:04Speaker 1: into vice more grievously. Still is now racked by a
- 1:58:07Speaker 1: most destructive consumption. What then, shall I the priest, now do,
- 1:58:12Speaker 1: who am compelled to cure? It? Is late in such cases,
- 1:58:17Speaker 1: If however, there is any one of you who can
- 1:58:19Speaker 1: bear to be cut and cauterized, I still can do it.
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: Behold the knife of the prophet. Turn unto the Lord
- 1:58:26Speaker 1: your guard. He saith with all your heart, and with fasting,
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: and with weeping, and with mourning and rend your heart.
- 1:58:33Speaker 1: Fear not this cutting, most beloved David bore it. He
- 1:58:36Speaker 1: lay in filthy ashes, and was disfigured by a covering
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: of rough sackcloths. He who had once been accustomed to
- 1:58:43Speaker 1: gems and to purple, hid his soul in fasting. He
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: whom sees whom woods, whom streams served, and the land
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: bringing forth the promised wealth, wasted in floods of tears.
- 1:58:53Speaker 1: Those eyes with which he had beheld the glory of God,
- 1:58:57Speaker 1: the ancestor of Mary, the ruler also of the Jewish kingdom,
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: confessed himself unhappy and miserable. That King of Babylon performs
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: penitence forsaken of all, and is worn away by seven
- 1:59:08Speaker 1: years of squalidness. His uncombed hair and wild roughness surpass
- 1:59:12Speaker 1: the shagginess of lion's mane, and his hands hooked with
- 1:59:16Speaker 1: crooked talons, take the semblance of eagles, while he eats
- 1:59:20Speaker 1: grass as osen, chewing the green herb. Yet this punishment
- 1:59:24Speaker 1: commends him to God and restores him to the kingdom
- 1:59:27Speaker 1: once his own, whom men shuddered at, God received bless
- 1:59:31Speaker 1: through this very calamity of a severer discipline behold the
- 1:59:35Speaker 1: cutting which I promised. Whoso shall be able to endure
- 1:59:38Speaker 1: it shall be healed. I will yet apply fire from
- 1:59:41Speaker 1: the cautery of the apostle. Let us see whether ye
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: can bear it. I have judged he saith when ye
- 1:59:46Speaker 1: are gathered together, and my Spirit, with the power of
- 1:59:49Speaker 1: our Lord Jesus Christ, to deliver such an one unto
- 1:59:51Speaker 1: Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit
- 1:59:55Speaker 1: may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
- 1:59:58Speaker 1: What say ye, penitence, where is the destruction of your flesh?
- 2:00:02Speaker 1: Is it that in the very time of penance ye
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: always walk abroad in greater pomp, full from the feast,
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: sleek from the bath, with well studied attire. Lo, here
- 2:00:12Speaker 1: is one man, once thrifty, once somewhat poor, once sordidly
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: dressed in a coarse cloak. Now he is daintily bedecked
- 2:00:20Speaker 1: and wealthy, and a proper man, as though he would
- 2:00:23Speaker 1: lay it to God's charge that he cannot serve him,
- 2:00:25Speaker 1: and would refresh his dying soul with the pleasure of
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: his members. It is well that we are of moderate means,
- 2:00:32Speaker 1: else should we be doing these same things too? Whereof
- 2:00:35Speaker 1: certain men and women of rich estate are not ashamed
- 2:00:38Speaker 1: dwelling in marble, weighed down with gold, sweeping along in silk,
- 2:00:41Speaker 1: glowing with scarlet. If the fairer genus powder glisteneth on
- 2:00:45Speaker 1: the eyebrow, or the fictitious color gloweth upon their cheeks,
- 2:00:49Speaker 1: or the artificial ruddiness melt over their lips, these things
- 2:00:52Speaker 1: perhaps ye have not. But still ye have your pleasant
- 2:00:56Speaker 1: retreats at your villas, or the sea, and wines of
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: more exquisite quality and rich banquetings. Yea old wines, well refined,
- 2:01:04Speaker 1: so act, so believe so ye, but live I can
- 2:01:09Speaker 1: bear it no longer. Brethren, Daniel and his fellows covered
- 2:01:12Speaker 1: with sackcloth and ashes, bloodless through fasting, speaketh. Thus we
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: have sinned, We have committed iniquity. We have done wickedly.
- 2:01:19Speaker 1: We have transgressed thy precepts and thy judgments of Asarriah.
- 2:01:23Speaker 1: Also the divine scripture Saith as Ariah stood up and prayed,
- 2:01:27Speaker 1: and opening his mouth, made confession to God with his fellows.
- 2:01:31Speaker 1: David himself saith every night wash I my bed and
- 2:01:34Speaker 1: water my couch with my tears. But we what of
- 2:01:38Speaker 1: such sort? Do we? What like to this I speak
- 2:01:42Speaker 1: not of those things which we gather together in heaps,
- 2:01:45Speaker 1: by trafficking, merchandising, ravening, by hunting out gains abroad, and
- 2:01:49Speaker 1: lusts at home, by doing nothing, simply giving nothing to
- 2:01:53Speaker 1: the poor, for giving nothing to brethren, Not even those
- 2:01:56Speaker 1: things which can be seen by the priest and praised
- 2:01:58Speaker 1: by the Bishop when he witness of them. Not even
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: these daily duties do we observe. To weep, namely in
- 2:02:04Speaker 1: sight of the church, to mourn our lost life in
- 2:02:07Speaker 1: sordid garb, to fast, to pray, to fall prostrate, to
- 2:02:11Speaker 1: refuse luxury, if one invite to the bath, to say,
- 2:02:15Speaker 1: if one bid to a feast, these things are for
- 2:02:18Speaker 1: the happy. I have sinned against the Lord and am
- 2:02:20Speaker 1: in danger of perishing eternally? What have I to do
- 2:02:23Speaker 1: with feastings who have injured the Lord? And besides this,
- 2:02:27Speaker 1: to hold the poor man by the hand, To entreat
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: the prayers of the widows, to fall down before the priests,
- 2:02:32Speaker 1: to ask the entreaties of the interceding church, to essay
- 2:02:36Speaker 1: all sooner than perish. I know that some of your
- 2:02:39Speaker 1: brethren and sisters wrap the breast in haircloth, lie in ashes,
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: and study late fastings. Nor yet perhaps have they so sinned?
- 2:02:47Speaker 1: Why speak of brethren, The wild goats, we are told,
- 2:02:51Speaker 1: know what will cure themselves. I have heard that when
- 2:02:54Speaker 1: pierced with a poisoned arrow, they traverse the Cretan forests,
- 2:02:57Speaker 1: until plucking the stalk of the dittany, they, with the
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: poisonous liquid of the healing Jus, expelled from their bodies
- 2:03:03Speaker 1: the ejected darts. We repel the fiery darts of the devil,
- 2:03:07Speaker 1: with no juice of penance, with no plant of confession.
- 2:03:10Speaker 1: The swallow knoweth, how, by her own swallow wart to
- 2:03:13Speaker 1: give sight to her blinded young we cure the lost
- 2:03:16Speaker 1: light of the mind by no root of severe discipline.
- 2:03:20Speaker 1: Lo man, like neither the goat nor the swallow, is
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: jealous of his own blindness and malady. Now, brethren, consider
- 2:03:28Speaker 1: what we promised at the close, What reward, or contrariwise,
- 2:03:31Speaker 1: what end will follow these works? The spirit of the
- 2:03:33Speaker 1: Lord threateneth delicate sinners who do not penance, saying they
- 2:03:37Speaker 1: receive not the love of the Truth, that they might
- 2:03:40Speaker 1: be saved. And for this cause God shall send them
- 2:03:43Speaker 1: the working of delusion, that they should believe a lie,
- 2:03:46Speaker 1: that they all might be damned who believe not the truth,
- 2:03:49Speaker 1: but had pleasure in unrighteousness, and also the apocalypse. Thus
- 2:03:54Speaker 1: speaketh of the Harlot, how much she hath glorified herself
- 2:03:57Speaker 1: and lived darrelously, so much tortrment and sorrow give her
- 2:04:02Speaker 1: and the apostle Paul saith, not knowing that the goodness
- 2:04:05Speaker 1: of God leadeth thee to repentance. But after thy hardness
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: treasurest up unto thyself, wrath, against the day of wrath,
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: and revelation of the righteous judgment of God. Fear, then,
- 2:04:16Speaker 1: most Dearly Beloved, These righteous judgments leave off error, condemned,
- 2:04:20Speaker 1: delicate living. The last time is now hastening on. Darkness
- 2:04:24Speaker 1: and Hell are opening their enlarged bosoms for the wicked.
- 2:04:28Speaker 1: After the punishment of souls in time, everlasting punishment is
- 2:04:31Speaker 1: reserved also for the revivified bodies. Let no one believe
- 2:04:35Speaker 1: as to the heart of Titus or the vulture of
- 2:04:38Speaker 1: the poets. The eternal fire itself, for itself renews the
- 2:04:42Speaker 1: substance of the regenerated bodies. Listen, if ye believe not
- 2:04:46Speaker 1: the force of the waters raging in the fire shall
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: be recruited by the punishment which feeds it. If ye
- 2:04:52Speaker 1: draw back from the torture of confession, remember hell, which
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: confession shall extinguish. For you estimate its force from things visible.
- 2:05:02Speaker 1: For some few petty outlets of it do wear away
- 2:05:05Speaker 1: the mightiest mountains with their subterranean fires. Thence do the
- 2:05:09Speaker 1: Sicilian etina and the Campanian Vesuvius boil with unwearied volumes
- 2:05:14Speaker 1: of flame, And to prove to us the eternity of judgment.
- 2:05:17Speaker 1: They are cleft, asunder they are devoured, and yet do
- 2:05:21Speaker 1: they never end. Consider in the Gospel the rich man
- 2:05:25Speaker 1: as yet suffering under the tortures of the soul. Only
- 2:05:28Speaker 1: what then shall be those exceeding tortures of the restored bodies?
- 2:05:32Speaker 1: What gnashing of teeth? Therein? What weeping? Remember, brethren, there
- 2:05:36Speaker 1: is no confession in the grave. Nor can penance then
- 2:05:38Speaker 1: be assigned. When the season for penitence is exhausted. Hasten
- 2:05:43Speaker 1: whilst you are alive, whilst you are on the way
- 2:05:46Speaker 1: with your adversary. Lo, we fear the fires of this world,
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: and we shrink back from the iron claws of torture.
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: Compare with them the hands of ever during torturers, and
- 2:05:58Speaker 1: the forked flames which never die by the faith of
- 2:06:02Speaker 1: the Church, by mine own anxiety, by the souls of
- 2:06:05Speaker 1: all in common. I adure and entreat you, brethren, not
- 2:06:08Speaker 1: to be ashamed in this work, not to be slacked,
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: To seize as soon as he may the proffered remedies
- 2:06:13Speaker 1: of salvation, to bring your soul down by mourning, to
- 2:06:16Speaker 1: clothe the body with sackcloth, to sprinkle it with ashes,
- 2:06:19Speaker 1: to macerate yourselves by fasting, to wear yourselves with sorrow,
- 2:06:24Speaker 1: to gain the aid of the prayers of many. In
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: proportion as ye have not been sparing in your own chastisement,
- 2:06:31Speaker 1: will God spare you, For He is merciful and long suffering,
- 2:06:35Speaker 1: of great pity, and repenteth him against the evil he
- 2:06:38Speaker 1: hath inflicted. Behold, I promise I engage if ye return
- 2:06:41Speaker 1: to your father with true satisfaction, erring no more, adding
- 2:06:45Speaker 1: nothing to former sins, saying also some humble and mournful words,
- 2:06:49Speaker 1: As Father, we have sinned before thee and are no
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: more worthy to be called thy sons. Straightway shall leave
- 2:06:55Speaker 1: you both that filthy heard and the unseemly food of husks.
- 2:06:58Speaker 1: Straightway on your return shall the robe be put upon you,
- 2:07:01Speaker 1: and the ring adorn you and your father's embrace again
- 2:07:04Speaker 1: receive you. Lo, he saith himself. I have no pleasure
- 2:07:08Speaker 1: in the death of the wicked, but that he may
- 2:07:09Speaker 1: turn from his way and live. And again, he saith,
- 2:07:12Speaker 1: shall they fall and not arise? Shall he turn away
- 2:07:16Speaker 1: and not return? And the apostle saith, God is able
- 2:07:19Speaker 1: to make him stand. The apocalypse also threateneth the seven
- 2:07:24Speaker 1: churches unless they should repent. Nor would he indeed threaten
- 2:07:27Speaker 1: the impenitent unless he pardon the penitent. God himself also saith.
- 2:07:32Speaker 1: Remember therefore, from whence thou art fallen and repent, And
- 2:07:35Speaker 1: again when thou shalt return and mourn, then shalt thou
- 2:07:39Speaker 1: be saved, and know where thou hast been. And let
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: no one so despair of the vileness of a sinful
- 2:07:45Speaker 1: soul as to believe that God hath no longer need
- 2:07:47Speaker 1: of him. The Lord willeth not that one of us
- 2:07:50Speaker 1: should perish. Even those of little worth and the least
- 2:07:53Speaker 1: are sought after. If he believe not see Lo in
- 2:07:57Speaker 1: the Gospel, the peace of silver is sought after. And
- 2:07:59Speaker 1: when is shown unto the neighbors, the poor sheep, although
- 2:08:03Speaker 1: to be carried back in his lowly stooping shoulders is
- 2:08:06Speaker 1: not burdensome to the shepherd. Over one sinner that repenteth,
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: the angels in heaven rejoice, and the celestial choir is glad. Come.
- 2:08:15Speaker 1: Then thou sinner, cease not to ask thou seest where
- 2:08:19Speaker 1: there is joy over thy return Amen. End of section
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: four section five of the Extant Works of Sampassion of Barcelona,
- 2:08:35Speaker 1: translated by Charles Henry Collins. This LibriVox recording is in
- 2:08:39Speaker 1: the public domain. Discourse on Baptism to the faithful and
- 2:08:44Speaker 1: the Catechumens. It is my wish to explain after what
- 2:08:48Speaker 1: manner we are born in baptism, and after what manner
- 2:08:51Speaker 1: we are renewed. I shall speak, indeed, Brethren, in his
- 2:08:55Speaker 1: own words, lest perchance, on account of the beauty of
- 2:08:57Speaker 1: my sentences, he should believe that I take pleasure in
- 2:09:00Speaker 1: my style, and that ye may be able to comprehend
- 2:09:03Speaker 1: a mysterious subject, and would that I could inculcate it
- 2:09:08Speaker 1: upon you. I seek not glory, for glory belongs to
- 2:09:11Speaker 1: God alone. My only anxiety is my concern for you,
- 2:09:15Speaker 1: and especially for these candidates for baptism. If in any
- 2:09:19Speaker 1: wise it may be possible for us to comprehend the
- 2:09:21Speaker 1: examination of so great happiness. I shall therefore show what
- 2:09:25Speaker 1: heathenism was previously, what faith bestows, what indulgence baptism grants.
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: And if this shall so sink into your hearts as
- 2:09:34Speaker 1: I feel it, ye will judge, brethren, that no preaching
- 2:09:37Speaker 1: ever yielded us more fruit. Learn, then, dearly beloved, in
- 2:09:41Speaker 1: what death man was placed before baptism? Ye know that,
- 2:09:45Speaker 1: assuredly of old, how Adam was returned to his earthly origin.
- 2:09:50Speaker 1: What condemnation imposed upon him the law of eternal death?
- 2:09:53Speaker 1: And this death had dominion over all his posterity, as
- 2:09:56Speaker 1: being held under this one law over the whole race
- 2:09:59Speaker 1: of from Adam to Moses. But through Moses one only
- 2:10:03Speaker 1: people was chosen, the seed, that is, of Abraham. If
- 2:10:06Speaker 1: they had been able to keep the commands of righteousness. Meanwhile,
- 2:10:10Speaker 1: we all were held under sin that we might eat
- 2:10:13Speaker 1: the fruits of death, appointed to feed on husks and
- 2:10:17Speaker 1: keep swine, that is, to filthy works by wicked angels,
- 2:10:20Speaker 1: whose dominion allowed us neither to do nor to know righteousness.
- 2:10:25Speaker 1: For our very condition compelled us to obey such masters.
- 2:10:29Speaker 1: How we were delivered from these powers and from this death,
- 2:10:32Speaker 1: now listen. When Adam sinned, as I have mentioned, the
- 2:10:36Speaker 1: Lord then saying dost thou art, and unto dust thou
- 2:10:39Speaker 1: shall return, he was assigned to death. This assignment was
- 2:10:43Speaker 1: transmitted to the whole race, for all sinned nature herself
- 2:10:47Speaker 1: now impelling them, as Saith the Apostle, as by one
- 2:10:50Speaker 1: man sin entered into the world, and death by sin,
- 2:10:53Speaker 1: and so death passed upon all men, for that all
- 2:10:55Speaker 1: have sinned. Sin therefore reigned in whose bonds we were dragged,
- 2:11:00Speaker 1: as it were captives unto death. Death that is eternal.
- 2:11:03Speaker 1: But this sin, before the time of the law was
- 2:11:06Speaker 1: not even understood, and Saith the Apostle. Until the law
- 2:11:09Speaker 1: was sin in the world was not accounted, that was
- 2:11:12Speaker 1: not seen, and the coming of the law it revived,
- 2:11:16Speaker 1: for it was made manifest that it might be seen,
- 2:11:19Speaker 1: but to no purpose, for no one hardly kept it,
- 2:11:23Speaker 1: for the law said thou shalt not commit it altery,
- 2:11:25Speaker 1: thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not covet. Yet concupiscence
- 2:11:29Speaker 1: with all vices still continued. So then before the law,
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: this sin slew man with a concealed under the law,
- 2:11:36Speaker 1: with a drawn sword. What hope therefore had man without
- 2:11:40Speaker 1: the law. He perished because he could not see sin,
- 2:11:42Speaker 1: and under the law, because he ran into that very
- 2:11:45Speaker 1: sin which he saw. Who could free him from death?
- 2:11:48Speaker 1: Here the apostle, a wretched man, that I am, who
- 2:11:51Speaker 1: shall deliver me from the body of this death? Grace
- 2:11:54Speaker 1: he saith through our Lord Jesus Christ. But what is grace?
- 2:11:59Speaker 1: The remission of sin? That is a free gift. For
- 2:12:02Speaker 1: grace is a free gift. Christ therefore coming and taking
- 2:12:05Speaker 1: upon him the nature of man first presented before God,
- 2:12:09Speaker 1: this very human nature, pure from the power of sin,
- 2:12:12Speaker 1: and innocent, Isaiah saith. Behold, a virgin shall conceive and
- 2:12:16Speaker 1: bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter
- 2:12:19Speaker 1: and honey shall he eat, that he may know to
- 2:12:21Speaker 1: refuse the evil and choose the good. And of him again,
- 2:12:25Speaker 1: who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth.
- 2:12:28Speaker 1: Under this guardianship of innocence. When Christ first undertook the
- 2:12:32Speaker 1: defensive man in the very flesh of sin, forthwith that
- 2:12:36Speaker 1: father of the disobedience of sin, who had once deceived
- 2:12:39Speaker 1: our first parents, began to be excited, to be troubled,
- 2:12:42Speaker 1: to tremble, for he was to be overcome by the
- 2:12:45Speaker 1: loosening of that law by which alone he had retained
- 2:12:48Speaker 1: possession of man, or could retain it. He arms himself
- 2:12:52Speaker 1: therefore for a spiritual contest with the Immaculate, and first
- 2:12:55Speaker 1: he attacks him with that artifice with which he had
- 2:12:58Speaker 1: overcome Adam in paradise. Under the pretense of dignity, and
- 2:13:02Speaker 1: as if perplexed about his heavenly power, he saith, if
- 2:13:06Speaker 1: thou be the Son of God, command that these stones
- 2:13:09Speaker 1: be made bread, that so ashamed or unwilling to conceal
- 2:13:12Speaker 1: that he was the son of God, he might fulfill
- 2:13:15Speaker 1: the commands of the Tempter. Behold, still, he is not silent,
- 2:13:19Speaker 1: suggesting that if he would cast himself down from above,
- 2:13:22Speaker 1: he would be received in the hands of angels, to
- 2:13:25Speaker 1: whom the Father had intrusted, that on their hands they
- 2:13:28Speaker 1: should bear him up, lest by any means he should
- 2:13:30Speaker 1: dash his foot against a stone, that so, while the
- 2:13:34Speaker 1: Lord wished to prove that he it was of whom
- 2:13:37Speaker 1: the Father had given this command, he might do what
- 2:13:40Speaker 1: the Tempter urged. Last of all, the serpent, being now crushed,
- 2:13:44Speaker 1: as if he were now giving up, promises him those
- 2:13:47Speaker 1: very kingdoms of the world which he had taken from
- 2:13:49Speaker 1: the first man. That so whilst the advocate of man
- 2:13:52Speaker 1: believes that he has overcome, he, by receiving the empire
- 2:13:56Speaker 1: which he was to recover, might incline towards the dignity
- 2:14:00Speaker 1: offered by the evil one, and so at last sin.
- 2:14:03Speaker 1: But in all these attacks the enemy is overcome and
- 2:14:06Speaker 1: destroyed by the heavenly power. As saith the prophet unto
- 2:14:09Speaker 1: the Lord, that thou might hast still the enemy and
- 2:14:11Speaker 1: the avenger, for I shall behold the heavens the works
- 2:14:14Speaker 1: of thy fingers. The devil ought now to have yielded,
- 2:14:18Speaker 1: But nevertheless he ceaseth not. Yet he suborns with his
- 2:14:22Speaker 1: wonted snares and stimulates with rage the scribes and Pharisees,
- 2:14:26Speaker 1: and all that band of wicked men. They, therefore, after
- 2:14:29Speaker 1: various arts and lying devices of the heart, in which
- 2:14:32Speaker 1: serpent like they thought to deceive the Lord by professions
- 2:14:35Speaker 1: of fealty. When they prevailed nothing, at last attacked him
- 2:14:39Speaker 1: with open violence and a most cruel kind of suffering,
- 2:14:42Speaker 1: so that through the indignity of the thing or the
- 2:14:45Speaker 1: pain of punishment, he might either do or say something unrighteous,
- 2:14:49Speaker 1: and thus destroy the human nature which he bore, and
- 2:14:52Speaker 1: his soul be left in hell, which had one law
- 2:14:54Speaker 1: to retain the sinner, for the sting of death is sin.
- 2:14:58Speaker 1: Christ therefore endured and did no sin. Neither was guile
- 2:15:01Speaker 1: found in his mouth, as we have said. Not then,
- 2:15:05Speaker 1: even when he was led as a victim. This was
- 2:15:08Speaker 1: to conquer, to be condemned without sin. For the devil
- 2:15:11Speaker 1: had received over sin as the power which he claimed
- 2:15:14Speaker 1: for himself over the Immaculate One. And thus he himself
- 2:15:18Speaker 1: was overcome, decreeing that against the Holy One, which was
- 2:15:21Speaker 1: not allowed him by the law that he had received.
- 2:15:24Speaker 1: Whence Saith the prophet to the Lord, that thou mightest
- 2:15:27Speaker 1: be justified in thy saying and clear when thou art judged.
- 2:15:31Speaker 1: And thus, as the apostle Saith, having led principalities in triumph,
- 2:15:35Speaker 1: Christ condemned sin in the flesh, nailing it to his
- 2:15:38Speaker 1: cross and blotting out the handwriting of death. Thence it
- 2:15:42Speaker 1: was that God left not his soul in hell, nor
- 2:15:44Speaker 1: suffered his Holy One to seek corruption. Thence it was that,
- 2:15:48Speaker 1: having trodden under foot the stings of death, he rose
- 2:15:51Speaker 1: again on the third day in the flesh, reconciling it
- 2:15:54Speaker 1: to God and restoring it to immortality, having overcome and
- 2:15:58Speaker 1: blotted out sin. But if he only conquer'd what conferred
- 2:16:02Speaker 1: he on others. Here briefly, the sin of Adam had
- 2:16:06Speaker 1: passed on the whole race. For by one man, as
- 2:16:09Speaker 1: saith the apostle, sin entered into the world, and death
- 2:16:12Speaker 1: by sin, and so death passed upon all men. Therefore,
- 2:16:16Speaker 1: also the righteousness of Christ must needs pass over to
- 2:16:19Speaker 1: the whole race. And as Adam by sin destroyed his race,
- 2:16:23Speaker 1: so must Christ, by righteousness give life to all his race.
- 2:16:28Speaker 1: This the Apostle urges, saying, for as by the disobedience
- 2:16:31Speaker 1: of one many were made sinners, so by the obedience
- 2:16:34Speaker 1: of one shall many be made righteous. That as sin
- 2:16:38Speaker 1: hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through
- 2:16:42Speaker 1: righteousness unto eternal life. Some one will here object, But
- 2:16:47Speaker 1: the sin of Adam deservedly passed on his posterity because
- 2:16:50Speaker 1: they were born of Him. And are we then born
- 2:16:53Speaker 1: of Christ, that we can be saved for his sake.
- 2:16:57Speaker 1: Cease to have carnal thoughts. And now ye shall see
- 2:17:01Speaker 1: in what wise we are born of Christ as our parent.
- 2:17:04Speaker 1: In these last days, Christ took a soul with the
- 2:17:06Speaker 1: flesh from Mary this he came to save. This he
- 2:17:10Speaker 1: left not in hell. This he joined to his spirit
- 2:17:13Speaker 1: and made his own. And this is the marriage of
- 2:17:15Speaker 1: the Lord, joined together to one flesh, that according to
- 2:17:19Speaker 1: that great Sacrament, might be these two in one flesh,
- 2:17:22Speaker 1: Christ and the Church. From this marriage is born the
- 2:17:25Speaker 1: Christian people, the spirit of the Lord, coming from above
- 2:17:28Speaker 1: and straightway, the heavenly seed being poured upon and mingled
- 2:17:32Speaker 1: with the substance of our souls. We grow in the
- 2:17:35Speaker 1: bowels of our Mother, and coming forth from her womb,
- 2:17:39Speaker 1: are made alive in Christ. Whence the apostle, the first
- 2:17:43Speaker 1: Atom was made a living soul, the last Adam was
- 2:17:45Speaker 1: made a quickening spirit. Thus Christ begetteth in the Church
- 2:17:49Speaker 1: by his priests, as says the same Apostle. For in Christ,
- 2:17:53Speaker 1: Jesus have I begotten you. And so the seed of Christ,
- 2:17:57Speaker 1: that is, the Spirit of God, produces by the hands
- 2:17:59Speaker 1: of the priests, the new Man conceived in the womb
- 2:18:03Speaker 1: of our Mother and received at the birth of the
- 2:18:06Speaker 1: font faith presiding over the marriage right. For neither will
- 2:18:10Speaker 1: he seem to be engrafted into the Church who hath
- 2:18:13Speaker 1: not believed, nor he to be born again of Christ,
- 2:18:16Speaker 1: who hath not himself received the Spirit. We must believe
- 2:18:19Speaker 1: therefore that we can be born. For so saith Philip.
- 2:18:23Speaker 1: If thou believest, thou mayest Christ, therefore must be received,
- 2:18:28Speaker 1: that he may beget. For thus saith the apostle John,
- 2:18:31Speaker 1: as many as received him to them, gave he power
- 2:18:34Speaker 1: to become the sons of God. But these things cannot
- 2:18:37Speaker 1: otherwise be fulfilled except by the sacrament of the laver,
- 2:18:40Speaker 1: and of the chrism and of the Bishop. For by
- 2:18:43Speaker 1: the laver sins are washed away. By Chrism, the Holy
- 2:18:46Speaker 1: Spirit is poured out. But both these we obtain at
- 2:18:49Speaker 1: the hand and the mouth of the Bishop. And so
- 2:18:51Speaker 1: the whole man is born again and renewed in Christ.
- 2:18:54Speaker 1: That like as Christ was raised up from the dead.
- 2:18:57Speaker 1: Even so we also should walk in newness of life,
- 2:19:00Speaker 1: that is that, having laid aside the errors of our
- 2:19:03Speaker 1: former life, the serving of idols, cruelty, fornication, wantonness, and
- 2:19:07Speaker 1: all other vices of flesh and blood, we should, through
- 2:19:10Speaker 1: the Spirit follow new ways in Christ, faith, modesty, innocence, chastity.
- 2:19:16Speaker 1: And as we bore the image of the earthly, so
- 2:19:19Speaker 1: also should we bear His who is from heaven. For
- 2:19:22Speaker 1: the first man is of the earth, earthy, the second
- 2:19:24Speaker 1: from Heaven heavenly. This, if we do, most Beloved, we
- 2:19:28Speaker 1: shall die no more. Although we be dissolved in this body,
- 2:19:32Speaker 1: we shall live in Christ. As he himself saith, he
- 2:19:35Speaker 1: that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall
- 2:19:38Speaker 1: he live. We are sure indeed, and that on the
- 2:19:41Speaker 1: testimony of the Lord, that both Abraham and Isaac and Jacob,
- 2:19:45Speaker 1: and all the saints of God are alive. For of
- 2:19:48Speaker 1: these very men, saith the Lord, they all live unto him.
- 2:19:51Speaker 1: For God is not the God of the dead, but
- 2:19:53Speaker 1: of the living. And as the Apostle saith of himself.
- 2:19:57Speaker 1: For to me, to live is Christ, and to die
- 2:19:59Speaker 1: is Gain. I could wish to depart and be with Christ.
- 2:20:03Speaker 1: And again, whilst we are at home in the body,
- 2:20:05Speaker 1: we are absent from the Lord. For we walk by faith,
- 2:20:08Speaker 1: not by sight. This is what we believe, Dearly Beloved.
- 2:20:11Speaker 1: But if in this life only we have hope, then
- 2:20:15Speaker 1: are we, of all men the most miserable The life
- 2:20:17Speaker 1: of this world, cattle and wild beasts and birds, as
- 2:20:21Speaker 1: yourself see have in common with us, or even longer
- 2:20:24Speaker 1: that is peculiar to man which Christ hath given through
- 2:20:27Speaker 1: His spirit, that is life eternal. Yet only if we
- 2:20:31Speaker 1: now sin no more. For as death is gained by
- 2:20:33Speaker 1: wickedness is avoided by goodness, so life is lost by
- 2:20:37Speaker 1: wickedness is retained by goodness. For the wages of sin
- 2:20:41Speaker 1: is death. But the gift of God is eternal life
- 2:20:43Speaker 1: through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Before all other things, my
- 2:20:47Speaker 1: little ones, remember that once, as we said above, all
- 2:20:51Speaker 1: nations were given over to the princes and powers of darkness.
- 2:20:54Speaker 1: Now are set free through the victory of our Lord
- 2:20:56Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. He it is he, it is who redeem
- 2:21:00Speaker 1: deemed us forgiving us all sins as saith the apostle,
- 2:21:03Speaker 1: blotting out the handwriting of disobedience that was against us,
- 2:21:07Speaker 1: and took it out of the way, nailing it to
- 2:21:09Speaker 1: his cross, putting off the flesh. He made a show
- 2:21:12Speaker 1: of the powers, openly triumphing over them in himself. He
- 2:21:16Speaker 1: set them free who were bound, and burst our chains
- 2:21:19Speaker 1: in sunder. As David had said, the Lord raiseth them
- 2:21:22Speaker 1: that are cast down, The Lord luseth the prisoners. The
- 2:21:25Speaker 1: Lord giveth sight to the blind. And again thou hast
- 2:21:28Speaker 1: broken my bonds in sunder. I will offer to thee
- 2:21:31Speaker 1: the sacrifice of Thanksgiving. Freed therefore from our bonds. When
- 2:21:35Speaker 1: through the sacrament of baptism we come unto the sign
- 2:21:38Speaker 1: of the Lord, we renounce the devil and all his angels,
- 2:21:41Speaker 1: whom before we served, that we should now serve them
- 2:21:44Speaker 1: no longer, being delivered by the blood and name of Christ.
- 2:21:48Speaker 1: But if after this any one, forgetful of himself and
- 2:21:52Speaker 1: ignorant of his redemption, return again to the serving of
- 2:21:55Speaker 1: angels and to the weak and beggarly elements of the world,
- 2:21:59Speaker 1: he shall be bound again by his old fetters and chains,
- 2:22:02Speaker 1: that is, by the bonds of sin, and his last
- 2:22:04Speaker 1: state shall be worse than his first, for the devil
- 2:22:08Speaker 1: shall bind him more strongly as if overtaken in flight,
- 2:22:11Speaker 1: and Christ shall not now be able to suffer for him.
- 2:22:15Speaker 1: For Christ, being raised from the dead, dieth no more. Therefore,
- 2:22:19Speaker 1: Dearly Beloved, we are washed. Once, once are set free,
- 2:22:22Speaker 1: are once admitted into the Kingdom of Heaven. Once is
- 2:22:25Speaker 1: that blessed is he whose unrighteousness is forgiven, and whose
- 2:22:28Speaker 1: sin is covered. Hold mightily what ye have received, Keep
- 2:22:32Speaker 1: it blessedly. Sin no more. Preserve yourselves pure and unspotted.
- 2:22:36Speaker 1: From that time, even to the day of the Lord.
- 2:22:39Speaker 1: Great and boundless are the rewards granted unto the faithful,
- 2:22:42Speaker 1: which I hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have
- 2:22:46Speaker 1: they entered into the heart of man. These rewards that
- 2:22:48Speaker 1: ye may receive, obtained by the labors of righteousness and
- 2:22:52Speaker 1: spiritual vows Amen. End of section five, end of the
- 2:23:00Speaker 1: Extant Works of Sympassion of Barcelona, translated by Charles Henry Collins,