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Yoreh De’ah 257:1-8. Tzedakah: Avoiding Suspicion, Vowing Charity, Gabai/ Collector · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, Oka Sidaka we are in Simon Rashnun Zain about the the
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  gabayim about the whole process of collecting.
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  So we started off by saying make sure Vitam Nakim Hashem and Mesa
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  the ideas want to avoid suspicion.
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  We don't want anyone to see you doing something look a little
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  shady or confusing right? If you have two people
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  collecting, they normally collect together, so maybe if
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  you split up, they think maybe he might take it for himself,
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  right as you're counting 2 coins at a time, they might think
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  especially if they can't hear you, they might be thinking
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  you're going to pocket half anyways, whatever the case might
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  be to avoid Khashat so see if bet continues the same idea.
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  Gabite Sidaka Shahim anime. I'd say the Gabite Sidaka.
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  So he collected a nice amount of money, but you don't just you're
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  not reckless and with your money, you don't just give away
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  too much too quick. You have to give the right
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  amount to the right people. So you have a surplus right now
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  you stumbling next week, the next month you have more money,
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  but for today you have enough and you want to exchange the
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  money. So I don't know different types
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  of coins or currencies. One of the explanations of
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  changing it is because the coins they collected maybe used to
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  rust easily and you don't want to carry your coins that are
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  going to rust on you. So you change it to a a
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  different type of a coin that's not going to rust.
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  Or let's say you just have maybe if it's just too many, too
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  heavy, a lot of half shekels or pennies.
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  So I think it's only when you need some kind of an evaluation.
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  Saki Machuvas writes like that, that if you're just changing
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  dollars and nickels or whatever, a growth in Shkalim or whatever,
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  bigger bills, smaller bills, we're not worried about that.
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  Again, it really all depends on the situation.
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  Even in private, I think we do have the same Khashad issue.
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  We don't want to go by in Sedaka changing something that needs
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  some kind of an evaluation because we're afraid that when
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  they're exchanging it, they're going to exchange it not
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  accurately on purpose for their own benefits from one pocket to
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  another. That's when we're afraid.
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  We're not afraid. They have, they're holding a
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  pocket. We're not afraid of them just
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  outright stealing the money. And if it's a clean trade of
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  shekel a bigger bill to a smaller bill, I don't think
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  that's what we're worried about. It's when there's more of a
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  evaluation involved of of a Lola atsumam.
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  They don't do it by themselves. Vahenim Sri Sri him lincor
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  mashagabu mashagabu mehtamakhle Yuma.
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  So too when they collect food, right?
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  One of the one of the things they used to do is daily run
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  around and collect extra food that someone has.
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  It's going to spoil. They don't need it, whatever it
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  is. So you can't leave the food
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  forever. It's going to go bad.
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  So you want to exchange it into money.
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  So also they shouldn't do it themselves, they should do it
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  with somebody else. Nowadays, as far as exchanging
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  currencies. So if everything's just being
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  done on the computer, I didn't see anyone talk about it, but
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  probably it's the same idea. It it if there's a shot or not
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  when you're talking about a computer, Perhaps it's really,
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  it's like the same as the same currency.
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  It's, it's, it's you do a, you can take a screenshot picture of
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  what the currency is. And it's the same idea as just
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  changing from nickels to Dimes. Again, we're not worried about
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  them, we're not worried about someone stealing the money.
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  We're worrying about someone when they're evaluating it,
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  they're not doing it. So honest, they're futzing with
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  it. They're saying it's worth more
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  than it is a little bit. That's when we're worried.
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  So anyway, so it's therefore anyways, it's also good good to
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  make sure everything's done, that it could be audited or take
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  pictures, whatever. OK, so that's the idea to avoid
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  the shot vein. Mehashvin Vistaka imaga bytes
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  dakablo be hectic imagiz barim shanemar we're never one should
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  never be have bad thoughts and suspect anyone when it comes to
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  Sidaka right? We have to do our share to have
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  to trust them, but they have to do their share not to make make
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  it easy for us to suspect them. Bad thoughts you don't lawyer
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  hashev ETA makasev and annotate all yadam kibe E munahim osim.
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  We always have to assume it's done with honesty and
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  trustworthiness. Haga when we call Malcolm, but
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  they should have an audit or whatever, counting and that they
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  can always show you what they're doing or the calculation should
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  be done and by someone else or in front of you because of the
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  Gabayim Aksharim. Obviously we're talking about
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  even the good goodbye of Al Misha in or Kashyar, if you have
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  someone who got somehow got the position through power, through
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  protectia or whatever it is and you can't trust him.
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  So that's not a good thing. Sorry.
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  He must give some kind of accounting The Who I did, I
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  guess if there's any way possible, hopefully you he needs
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  to hopefully he does The Who I did at Seaboard.
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  So to whenever there are people in charge of at Seabourg
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  communal matters because at Seabourgh.
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  Now this is saying anything we do, we should always make sure
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  we do it so that we don't allow any suspicion.
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  Now he's just saying that there was off in the custom that you
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  hire a good buyer, you hire this person for a certain amount of
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  time. And so it's known that every
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  whatever, every week, every month, every year, you switch
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  the person. And so therefore, when you want
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  to switch him, you're not liking how he's doing things so well.
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  You want get somebody better. It's not a problem.
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  It doesn't make the guy look bad, but that's on the that's
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  when it's you have a minute that you it's not a lifetime position
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  or it's not for too long. But if it's, if there is some
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  kind of, you can see this in the shot, but there if, if there is,
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  if it looks like it's a lifetime position, then it's, it's a
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  little, it's not simple to remove the person 'cause you
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  don't want to remove the person when it'll make everybody now
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  suspect him. Why is he getting removed from
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  his position and getting replaced?
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  Must be he's doing a bad job. So you don't want to do that.
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  However, and Saki Machulisi points out that if you're not,
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  one thing you can do if you're, if you're not so sure about him
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  is you can add someone, right? Or you just get better audit
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  whatever checks and balances. However, also he says if you do
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  know that the guy is not trustworthy, you caught him
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  doing something not appropriate. So then you you're definitely
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  allowed to remove him. You don't have to keep him
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  there. You should remove him.
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  We saw this also in ration involved and it's his own fault.
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  The the idea of this Salah is we don't want to create make
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  somebody look bad. You don't want to defame him.
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  But if he if he deserves it and is you have to remove him, then
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  that's his problem. Who I didn't Sharma Munium.
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  And so too, whenever you have someone in public office or
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  whatever working for the seaboard, Gimel had Sedaka,
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  Harihi Baklal had Nadaram. So when a person says he's
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  giving Sedaka, then that has the power of another goes back to
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  the house. Nadaram Lafika.
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  Therefore, O mera hare alai Salah Lisdaka.
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  A person says, I'm thinking upon myself, I'm giving itsala for
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  its Sedaka. Well, that's another.
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  Oh, Hariya sella Zodsaka. He just says this sella this,
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  this coin, it goes to Sedaka. I'm giving it to Sedaka Palama
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  Sedaka Hayev Litna Laniya Miyad. You must give it to the poor
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  people immediately. We're talking about Sedaka for
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  poor people. So if that's if he's if he gave
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  Sedaka for poor people, he must give it to them as soon as he
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  sees them, as soon as they are around.
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  Otherwise you're over the EM ether over the Balta Akhen.
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  And if you you pledge money to an Ani, so a poor person and
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  he's there and you don't give it to him right away, then you're
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  over the isser Balta Akhen of Sheharebiado Liten Miyad, the
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  Ani Mitsuya name. He has the money in his hand.
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  The Ani is right there next to him.
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  And so then he's fine. But in Ainsham Aniim but if
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  aniyim aren't there, mafra shumaniya.
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  So you set it aside ajim SA aniyim until you find Ani and
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  Shaq says you don't have to go. And how far I don't know.
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  But you don't have to go search for Aniyim.
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  I don't know if he means in the room outside across the city,
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  but OK. The only time your mom is over
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  is if he's right there. I'll just point out over here
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  this is the opinion of the Rambam and the Ron that it's all
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  based on a neem there or not there.
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  Rash Brontosva says that in order to be over Bal to author
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  for Sidaka it's the same thing as carbonas.
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  They need 3 regaling and it doesn't matter if you have an
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  IUM or you don't have an IUM, it's 3 regalium or not 3
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  regalium and that's when 1 is over.
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  As an aside, the calls then beats Takashish.
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  Now this we're talking about is if you have money in your pocket
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  that you set aside to give to an IUM.
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  Well, you should no dream Sidaka will beat Knesset with now we
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  got Gabai Oshar, it's Dhaka. But if you're going to make it
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  to a different Sidaka or you're giving it to a Gabai, you're not
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  giving it out to the anime yourself.
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  You gave you made a netter to give it to a Gabi, who's then
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  going to give it to the anime. Then you're not over yet.
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  You know, over Alea Alpha Gabda. And you would say even if you
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  have an anime right next to you, you never made a net there to
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  give it directly to anime Your Kavana, your net there was to
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  give it to a Gabi. OK, so then you're not over yet.
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  Ellie and Kane Tabua goodbye. But if you made another to give
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  it to the Gabai and there's an onion next to you and the
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  goodbye is next to you, the three of you are there and the
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  Gabai says give me your money. I need to give it to the Sedaka,
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  to the and to the onion. That was your pledge.
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  So then you must give it to the to the Gabai immediately so that
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  he can give it to the onion who's right there?
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  And if you don't, so then one is over the love of Baltakran.
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  All right, Of delaying second goodbye, Haya mahalik lahemiyad,
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  right. And if they were all there and
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  you can do it right away, in our case, you would be mahalik if
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  you would, if you would give it to you right away.
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  So then that's why you're Kayev. You do a goodbye now.
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  Sorry, Julio de la goodbye now. If the goodbye doesn't know that
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  you pledge the money, well you got to tell him otherwise he's
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  never going to collect it from you if you don't.
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  You can't be too bad if he doesn't know about it so you
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  have to tell him. So goodbye mash in the dark that
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  you can now claim it from you. Velomikre Aniya Mitziya Ella
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  Aniya Mitzrachem. Now it's only only talking about
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  anim that you that you need to give to them and volume aim.
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  Derek Lakhaliya Miyad LO mikre aniyim Mitsuyim.
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  But if the custom is the aniyim come to the robbers of the Gabai
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  Sedaka, let's say every Thursday night, once a week.
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  So in the middle of the week, that's not the custom to give
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  out money to the Aniyim. So then even if the ani is right
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  next to you, then you're not Kayev because that's not called
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  Aniya Mitsuyim. That's because it's it's not the
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  time to collect and it's understood all right OK, the EM
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  Amari teen cellulitz Taco le paloni.
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  You know Vera actually have a oto ani.
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  If a person says I'm speaking nadir to get Sedaka to so and so
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  ani so you're not tired when someone else's another ani is
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  next to you until so and so the ani comes to you because that's
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  the one you designated it's for earmarked for him.
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  So a Oto ani Alpha God, the Shah Ani, and even though you have a
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  whole room of ani and next to you, that was it, your nether.
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  So you're not going to be higher.
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  That's if you say just in general, I'm giving Sidaka
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  without specifying what it's for now.
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  That's if you just you make a nether.
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  I'm giving Sidaka on the cabana is for anem.
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  So then you have to then you could be over if you delay.
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  But a a person could set aside at home or next to his filling
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  when he's davening, he wants to set aside his coins and who and
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  so then so that it's all ready for him or by his front door,
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  however he does it. So then all he did was just set
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  aside money. That's not Sedaka, that's goes
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  to the onion yet that they don't own it.
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  It's not it's not part of a there's no nether to give it
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  immediately now and then if you just say that it's for the
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  goodbye and to do what they want with it and they can do whatever
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  they want with it and it's it's not it's not for a name.
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  You don't you're not Makayam. I can't imagine anyone is yelled
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  say the Makayam the mitzvah until it goes into the onion's
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  hand. Maybe the God by his hand or the
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  God by his hand. Maybe the yeah, if you're Mazaki
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  and then it belongs when you set aside you didn't you didn't do
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  the mitzvah yet. If you have a another person and
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  you want to lift it up for them and then it belongs to the Ani,
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  so then maybe, maybe it's not yours anymore.
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  But you don't know who's who, who's going to be Zoltzek,
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  right? So maybe that's enough to be, I
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  don't know. OK.
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  Dalid. I don't know.
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  Sorry. Akli Zara.
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  If he's not going to benefit anyway.
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  Dalid. Sorry.
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  Akli Zara. Melidor, it's important that
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  when you're giving Sidaka, don't make a Nether.
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  When you wanna pledge money, you should do it.
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  Billy Nether. Obviously I don't know if you
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  can if you're selling the Cuba, I don't know if the show will
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  allow that. But Oh yeah, the show let's you
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  do Billy Nether. OK, good.
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  But in post scheme, I don't usually hear Billy Nether's but
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  but the in post scheme Sidaka. But sorry, Livsok Imam yomar
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  buli neder anytime you need to give Sidaka.
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  And so I guess but Sibor as well with the show, you should say
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  I'm doing it Buli neder and OK. Hey, kisha khaser bakis shell
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  sidaka sarika gabai la. How about if there's money
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  missing from the Kisa Sidaka? So the Gabai has to lend to the
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  to the fund. OK Shahim Sabakis the Akharzman
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  nefram menu. And then when he finds the
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  money, he gets it back. And you don't have to get any
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  permission. I got Misha Mahfresh Mahsrotov
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  the the hill villa honey michelleau.
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  A person who separates meisser and lends money to a poor person
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  from his own pocket. Mafish meisser shalo
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  mahashivaazet shahil Vela honey. You lend money to an ani and
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  then OK, so then you do a meiser ani later with your produce that
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  you're growing. Then you can just deduct that
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  from what he owes you and you can then you can eat your meiser
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  ani or Meister. OK with dafka Shahani, right?
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  OK Meister ani. I mean, Meister Meister.
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  Yeah, Meister ani doesn't have any intrinsic to Kedusha, but
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  we'll get to there when we do. Trima sumasters with Dafka
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  Shahani Shihilo. A dying hike that works if when
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  you lend the money that he's still alive, then he's going to
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  give it back to you. So you can just make your own
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  calculation on your own to deduct it of all he met.
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  What if you lend money to to the onion and he passes?
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  The poor man passes away so then oh mita share or becomes
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  wealthy. Rein sarik, rein sarik lashalin
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  Sherry anihaya beltasha in Mafrishin Allah the aim of
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  rushin al ebud, the aim lahushama nitasha alabiadua.
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  So if he he can't do this, if he becomes wealthy or if he dies
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  because he doesn't have to pay you back anymore.
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  And so therefore you can't eat your you can't eat your
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  maisterani. You have to give that to a poor
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  person and you can't and you can't do so.
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  Payback is like an actual. Live transaction.
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  With the money, yeah, it's like you consider it fine.
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  Consider like a live transaction.
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  And he's not he's not he's not shy anymore.
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  Fine. Now if you don't know if he's
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  alive or poor or whatever the story is, you don't have to find
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  out. You can assume everyone has a
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  Khazaka, that they're alive and in their same financial status.
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  So the state needs to owe the money.
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  That's that's not the. Issue that you can't fix him,
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  you can't make the exchange now to deduct from the amount that
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  he owed you in the past because since you can't give him the
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  maisel on him because he's no longer.
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  Enough, right? Even if you would owe you, even
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  if the Yorshim would owe you, you can't still can't do this
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  because you can't give him the Maiser money.
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  Exactly what you're what you're doing with this whole exchange
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  is you are actually giving him your designated Seducto money,
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  your designated Maiser to go to him.
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  And then you're making your then you're making your own exchange
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  on your own, but you're essentially giving it to him.
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  But if he's not poor anymore or he's not alive anymore, you
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  can't give it to him and then make and then deduct it in your
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  pocket when no one's you know at your convenience, unless the
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  urshum are also presumably the urshum now have money.
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  But but if the Urshum don't have any money, then I mean could be
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  you can give Meister I need to the Urshum whatever that's but
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  that's not a little bit beyond this.
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  OK Vav, good point. Gabbai shyamar bodo gabbai Kaka
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  veti lakisha of Sedaka netman bolo Shirua.
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  The Gabba says I lend money to this, to the fund of Sedaka.
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  Now he wants to get money back. You can trust him and he does
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  not need to take a Shirua Loafarshi salkuva, not after he
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  gets removed. Let's say you don't, you're not
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  fond of this, this Gabba anymore and you let him go when he's
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  still, you trust him while he's still the Gabba because he has
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  no reason to lie to you once he's removed.
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  And he comes to your door a week later saying, oh by the way,
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  that money is from the Gabba. Really, you know, whatever $100
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  from there 100 scholing that really belongs.
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  They owe me. I lent money to help.
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  Then you don't trust them anymore when you remove him.
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  He could speak up as he's being removed.
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  Then you can still trust him, but not once.
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  It's not once it's completely wrong.
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  So it depends why he's being removed.
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  Yeah, but it doesn't. OK, more of a question, but I
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  don't know. But it doesn't mean he's
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  completely he lost all his namanas for everything.
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  It just you found a problem that he messed up on.
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  So you don't want him to continue being the goodbye.
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  It doesn't mean that therefore he's has no namanas.
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  Might not be an aide, but doesn't mean he has no namanas.
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  OK, he was a true treasurer and. His term ended.
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  Or or his term or he wasn't right.
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  Written notes is something okay, is really the question right?
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  That's the question sign goodbye.
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  Let's say he's in charge of money and because of that
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  there's a lot of anime who want to get a lot more money.
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  He says you guys aren't anime, you don't deserve it.
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  You only get X amount. So they're speaking badly about
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  him or or yelling at him or calling them names.
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  Don't worry about it. You're you're the mitzvah that
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  you're getting by taking care of the seaboard and the anime that
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  need the money. Then that's worth a lot more
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  than all the aggravation you're getting.
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  OK unishe lacrovium ashirim shikhoya lafarnasso Anna Gabaya
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  here hayavim lafarnasso alphagav the Krovov gankin notre name
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  Mikis OK one second. So if a poor person has wealthy
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  relatives who are able to pay him, so the Gabi from the from
• 23:15
  the money of the seabor, he doesn't have to pay give money
• 23:20
  from the seabor, the Sedaka fund to an to this Ani, right?
• 23:27
  Because we assume that the Krovim, his relatives are going
• 23:31
  to take care of him. So the Gabi's allowed to say,
• 23:33
  sorry, we're collecting money for the Seabor and not Sedaka
• 23:37
  for the Aniim of the city. But if they know that this one
• 23:40
  has a relative who can pay to, we assume that the relative is
• 23:44
  going to take care of his onion before he donates to the city
• 23:49
  fund. And even if the relative pays to
• 23:51
  the city fund, we still this halafa applies because we assume
• 23:56
  the relative's giving to both and he's not going to leave his
• 23:59
  onion.