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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and NBA, Peterson playing well in preseason, Nurkic missing first several weeks, EuroLeague reject NBA Eur... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell show. Welcome in our
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  Speaker 2: good friend, NBA insider and longtime coach. Gordy Chiesa brought
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  Speaker 2: to you by Aladdin Industries, your Utah V-Lux dealer.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Gordy. Welcome. How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Sean, I'm doing well. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the expectations shifting for this
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  Speaker 2: Utah Jazz team.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that the preseason is just that. It's
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  Speaker 1: the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: They lose one 17 to one Oh six to the nuggets,
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  Speaker 2: but Darren Peterson, the number two overall pick 23 points
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  Speaker 2: in 30 minutes. Some nice things from ACE Bailey as well,
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  Speaker 2: although he wasn't terribly efficient with his shooting. What were
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on the performance from those young players?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Darren Peterson, it's how he got his points. He
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  Speaker 3: shot 10 for 18 from the field, but I call it,
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  Speaker 3: he was a rocket driver. He got in that lane
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  Speaker 3: and made a made plays as far as either shooting
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  Speaker 3: the ball or kick out for the open three-point shot.
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  Speaker 3: And he played with a lot of confidence. And Sean,
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  Speaker 3: he's a guard. He's not a point guard. He's a guard,
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  Speaker 3: meaning he can play two-guard and also sometimes point. But
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  Speaker 3: his best part of his game is that his talent
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  Speaker 3: level and he's fearless. He gets that ball, you have
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  Speaker 3: the feeling that he's going to make something happen. And
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  Speaker 3: that's really what the Jazz need. Now, with Ace Bailey,
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  Speaker 3: Second year now, they're much more physical trying to guard him.
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  Speaker 3: That's the first thing. And the second thing is that
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  Speaker 3: his roles are just somewhere. Whether he starts off the bench,
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  Speaker 3: he has to find that sweet spot for him as
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  Speaker 3: far as being aggressive with the ball, as far as
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  Speaker 3: shooting it, but also defensively being able to guard his position.
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  Speaker 3: And so, Sean, last week we talked about the Jazz
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  Speaker 3: defensive concerns last year. Let's fast forward it more importantly.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's only two games. But the indicator right
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  Speaker 3: now is that the Jazz are much more aggressive defensively.
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  Speaker 3: So that's good. That's positive. But the problem is that
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  Speaker 3: so far they lack consistent technique. So, for example, in
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  Speaker 3: the loss the other day against the Nuggets is that
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  Speaker 3: the Jazz– allowed the Nuggets 42-3 throws to just shot 12.
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  Speaker 3: They were outscored from the foul line 30-12, meaning, what,
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  Speaker 3: 18 points. And so the learning point about that is
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  Speaker 3: that you've got to– the question is always, any sport,
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  Speaker 3: how can I have sound technique with physicality? And it
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  Speaker 3: all starts with what? Instead of using your extended hands
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  Speaker 3: and holding somebody or shoving somebody, you've got to master
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  Speaker 3: how to use your chest, your shoulders, and your footwork
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  Speaker 3: to get leverage. And that's what the jazz of trying
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  Speaker 3: to attempt to do so far. It's been a struggle.
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  Speaker 2: Gordon, I've been meaning to ask you about this. When you,
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  Speaker 2: when you have young players who are clearly, at least
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  Speaker 2: for me, the most talented players on the team, right.
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  Speaker 2: And in some ways already the best players on the team,
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  Speaker 2: although talented and best, they're not always the exact same thing. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: how difficult is that for the veterans to manage when
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  Speaker 2: you've got a young guy who is, you know, needs
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  Speaker 2: to learn the way of things and is someone that
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  Speaker 2: needs to be taught and needs to be talked to.
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  Speaker 2: If he's a better basketball player than you, he's a
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  Speaker 2: more talented guy than you. Maybe he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: listen to you. How do they manage that in an
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  Speaker 2: NBA locker room?
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  Speaker 3: It's based on a personality of the people doing the talking.
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  Speaker 3: So for example, Larry marketing is a skilled player, uh,
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  Speaker 3: But it seems to me he's quiet by nature. And
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  Speaker 3: so he'll do his talking by his performance on the court.
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  Speaker 3: So it's the little things that you say to somebody
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  Speaker 3: and your voice is choice, how you say to your
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  Speaker 3: peers that we don't like what you're doing right now. Say,
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  Speaker 3: for example, just for the narrative right now, where you're
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  Speaker 3: coming late for practice or you're way too loud in
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  Speaker 3: the locker room, you're way too boisterous about yourself, how
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  Speaker 3: well you played. And so... The counterpunch to that is
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  Speaker 3: your voice. And you've got to make that young player
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  Speaker 3: know that even though we respect your talent, you have
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  Speaker 3: to understand that this is about our team. And that's
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  Speaker 3: that invisible, Sean, that every locker room, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: you played sports, that it's all based on what? The
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  Speaker 3: chemistry of a group. And that's what makes certain teams elite,
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  Speaker 3: other teams only average, or many teams disjointed because of
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  Speaker 3: the invisible match between the veterans and the young fellas
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  Speaker 3: that have star potential.
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  Speaker 2: When is an appropriate time for Darren Peterson, Ace Bailey,
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  Speaker 2: Keontae George to kind of take over the locker room?
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  Speaker 2: And not in a bad way, but just to be like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, now we can be the ones that, you know...
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  Speaker 2: Everyone is looking to, I mean, is it in year one?
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  Speaker 2: If you're Darren Peterson, is it in year two? If
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  Speaker 2: you're ace Bailey?
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely not. No, it's county Georgia right now in
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  Speaker 3: year four. Those guys haven't done anything at all yet.
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  Speaker 3: As far as, in other words, the jets have not
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  Speaker 3: made the playoffs. So that the learning point about this
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  Speaker 3: is that you can start being more vocal in a
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  Speaker 3: positive way. And that's the catchphrase. after you show performance
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  Speaker 3: as far as winning, not just you playing well yourself.
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  Speaker 3: This is a team sport, and it's so interwoven. It's
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  Speaker 3: the most amazing thing, the NFL and the NBA, that
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  Speaker 3: it's truly a team sport. And so you've got to
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  Speaker 3: showcase your talents, but you have to understand about your
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  Speaker 3: teammates and floor mates as people. And that's where it
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  Speaker 3: gets so interesting. Also, the maturity index. When does a
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  Speaker 3: person maturity kick in? Is it age 22? Is it 32?
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  Speaker 3: Is it 42? Or is it never? And that's the
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  Speaker 3: great unknown. And that's the beauty of sports. You think
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  Speaker 3: you know about chemistry, but you don't. So it should
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  Speaker 3: be Keontae George. He's got an element of street cred
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  Speaker 3: in the locker room. He has played well. Now he
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  Speaker 3: has to showcase that by now playing on both sides
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  Speaker 3: of the ball. Offensively, he's been really well, terrific. Defensively,
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  Speaker 3: he's been lacking. So now for Keontae to be a
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  Speaker 3: team leader, he has to show by example.
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  Speaker 2: Where did she is our guest here on the Sean
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  Speaker 2: O'Connell show talking Utah jazz basketball. Yusuf Nurkic is one
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  Speaker 2: of these guys that is supposed to help out on
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  Speaker 2: the defensive front. He's a good tone setter for physicality
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  Speaker 2: and things like that. In today's NBA, I have never
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  Speaker 2: heard of this injury with the. partial planter plate tear
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  Speaker 2: of the second toe in his right foot, but it
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  Speaker 2: is severe enough that he's going to miss at least
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  Speaker 2: four weeks of this upcoming season.
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  Speaker 1: How did the jazz handle that?
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  Speaker 3: It's a concern. So the first thing let's describe right now, Sean, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you said nerfage. We call him the Bratsy and beast.
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  Speaker 3: That's his nickname. All right. He's six 11 to 90 pounds.
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  Speaker 3: So again, for the listeners, uh, Think about being 6'11, 290,
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  Speaker 3: and all the wear and tear on your, Sean mentioned
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  Speaker 3: a second ago, on your second toe, on your right foot.
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  Speaker 3: And so the plate, as far as the texture, as
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  Speaker 3: far as being compromised and holding him out. In other words,
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  Speaker 3: in layman's terms, he basically has a soft foot from
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  Speaker 3: jumping and running and twisting and turning. Also, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: he's age 32. And so think about Yusef Nurkic's frame.
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  Speaker 3: I call it lumberjack frame. So there's so much stress
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  Speaker 3: on the lower part of your body because you're so
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  Speaker 3: strong upper body. He's going to miss probably, they say,
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  Speaker 3: four weeks, Sean, but usually it takes slightly longer for
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  Speaker 3: big guys because of, again, their body frame. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying basically that he'll miss probably between 14 to 16
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  Speaker 3: games to start the season. 14 to 16. So the
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  Speaker 3: question is, who do you suggest start? The option could
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  Speaker 3: be Jackson Hayes as a rim protector and a high-jumping
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  Speaker 3: shot blocker. And then during the game, they can move
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  Speaker 3: over Jaron Jackson for some of the minutes. If they're
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  Speaker 3: playing in a position, Sean, that's relatively small and more
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  Speaker 3: finesse center, they could play Larry Malkin at the stretch five,
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  Speaker 3: which is advantageous. And then the backup of all of
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  Speaker 3: it would be playing Mo Bamba six to eight minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Or the backup to the backup to the backup would
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  Speaker 3: be Kyle Filipowski, who's hurt right now with a back concern,
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  Speaker 3: he could play as a lightweight five-man, again, certain positions.
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  Speaker 3: Last point about that, as far as economics, the Jets
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  Speaker 3: are under contract right now, 14 players. So if they choose,
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  Speaker 3: if someone is waived, the next Sean– 10 to 14 days,
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  Speaker 3: if they like that guy as a backup, they could
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  Speaker 3: sign him. It doesn't affect their salary cap. So there
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  Speaker 3: are some options that Jazz have right now is that
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  Speaker 3: with Yusuf Nurkic, the doctors don't want to bring him
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  Speaker 3: back too soon. So they're going to be sure that
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  Speaker 3: his foot is going to be healed. And it's like
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  Speaker 3: any sport. You don't want to play a sport in
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  Speaker 3: season with bum wheels.
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  Speaker 1: Especially big men in the NBA, right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's like, it's the one thing that you
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  Speaker 2: hate reading about, hearing about when you're talking about these,
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  Speaker 2: you know, six, 10, seven foot, seven, one guys, even
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  Speaker 2: when they're lean, they're 270 something pounds. You got all
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  Speaker 2: these little micro fractures and pressure injuries and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: You never like hearing about feet, ankles for big guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So again, because of the wear and tear on
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  Speaker 3: your body, you can be strong as far as, uh,
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  Speaker 3: muscle chest, muscle density and shoulders. You have a wide
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  Speaker 3: frame that's commendable. And that's for, it's for a collision,
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  Speaker 3: you know, as far as, uh, body on body frame
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  Speaker 3: on frame, you can match up, but again, The flip
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  Speaker 3: side is now the lower part of your body, meaning
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  Speaker 3: what your legs and your ankles and your feet. That's
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  Speaker 3: where the stress really is. There's so much wear and
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  Speaker 3: tear on a player's body. LeBron James, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: far as sitting out in preseason, I know why. Because
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  Speaker 3: he has an element of arthritis, which is perfectly normal
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of people, especially age 42 with all
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  Speaker 3: the wear and tear on his body. So they're holding
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  Speaker 3: him out. He could play if it's a regular game.
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  Speaker 3: But the Sixers are right now arresting him, and he's
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  Speaker 3: doing light work. And that's all part of the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: The NBA, like the NFL, the whole season is a
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  Speaker 3: war of attrition. Who can absorb injuries as far as
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  Speaker 3: a team until you get to the magical land called
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs? And then it's based on, it's a much
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  Speaker 3: lesser rotation as far as players. And we got to
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs. Now let's see what we can do. But
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  Speaker 3: in the meantime, suddenly you're the, Sean, you're the 14th
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  Speaker 3: man on the roster. And that's wonderful. Now within two weeks,
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  Speaker 3: you're the 11th man. Within two months, you're the eighth
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  Speaker 3: man on the roster. And the question always is, are
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  Speaker 3: you ready mentally, physically, and spiritually to perform? That's the
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  Speaker 3: question as always.
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  Speaker 2: Couple more minutes here with Gordy Chiesa talking all things basketball. Gordy,
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  Speaker 2: you and I have spent a lot of time talking
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  Speaker 2: about the global expansion of the NBA product, and they
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  Speaker 2: have decided to double and triple and quadruple down on this.
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  Speaker 2: There's plans for NBA Europe to move forward. And I
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  Speaker 2: thought that there would be some type of merger, that
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  Speaker 2: there would be some type of integration of existing EuroLeague teams.
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  Speaker 2: But the EuroLeague team owners voted on that and rejected
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  Speaker 2: the a merger offer this week, somewhat to my surprise,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's just my ignorance speaking, what was your reaction
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  Speaker 2: to seeing that EuroLeague owners don't want any part of
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  Speaker 2: NBA Europe?
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  Speaker 3: Sure, because they're the owners and they have the markets
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  Speaker 3: and they have those wonderful cities. So for the listeners,
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  Speaker 3: the first thing, the NBA is trying to create a
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  Speaker 3: league where it's NBA Europe with in conjunction with FIBA,
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  Speaker 3: which is the international governing body of basketball, and also
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  Speaker 3: it's soccer. However, the EuroLeague is part of FIBA, but
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  Speaker 3: like always, these owners are profit-driven, and they have a
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  Speaker 3: good thing going where their fan base is very loyal,
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  Speaker 3: both basketball, and we know soccer is amazing as far
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  Speaker 3: as their fans. All right. So the NBA wants to
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  Speaker 3: partner with the European league, but the European owners said, no,
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  Speaker 3: that we're not going to give so far the way
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  Speaker 3: the rules are. Are we partners? Are you going to
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  Speaker 3: take over eventually? Because we know that Amazon prime video
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  Speaker 3: and ABC ESPN slash Disney and NBC universal, they want
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  Speaker 3: part of that European market as far as basketball. And
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  Speaker 3: here's the cities that, The European owners don't want to
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  Speaker 3: give up to the NBA. Madrid, Athens, London, Paris, Istanbul, Rome, Lisbon, Portugal,
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  Speaker 3: and Berlin. These are all viable cities. So, Sean, in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, they play games in London like it's a
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  Speaker 3: home game for those teams. And so they played games
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  Speaker 3: already in Frankfurt in the NFL. And this is the
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  Speaker 3: NBA now trying to take over the– The European League.
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  Speaker 3: Let's point about that. Oh, by the way, just say
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  Speaker 3: there was a merger and eventually the NBA had an
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  Speaker 3: expansion after having a trial with these teams. The union
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  Speaker 3: of the NBA Players Association has to approve this eventually
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  Speaker 3: where we're going to send our people over to Europe.
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  Speaker 3: We want to be compensated for it. So there's way
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  Speaker 3: beyond just playing it right now. The target date possibility,
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  Speaker 3: if they rework the terms of agreement, would be probably
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  Speaker 3: the 27-28 season. But there's so much work to be
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  Speaker 3: done as far as a clarification of who owns the team,
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  Speaker 3: what percentage of revenue, and more importantly, the TV partners.
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  Speaker 2: Gordy Tyrese Halliburton, we've talked about him and what kind
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  Speaker 2: of impact he could have in not only Indiana, but
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  Speaker 2: in the east of the NBA if he's back. And
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  Speaker 2: he's back and looked pretty good, looked healthy. First game
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  Speaker 2: in more than 16 months. What kind of impact is
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  Speaker 2: he going to have on the Eastern Conference race?
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  Speaker 3: And a 16-month show is also 400 days. Can you
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  Speaker 3: imagine not playing a sport live in competition for 400 days?
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  Speaker 3: So the answer is he'll have an impact very much.
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  Speaker 3: The Pacers, we all like those guys because they have
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  Speaker 3: superior coaching in Rick Harlow, and they play a certain
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  Speaker 3: type of a speed game, but with the element of
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  Speaker 3: fundamentals involved. And it's one for all, all for one.
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  Speaker 3: So they're really a fun team to watch. With Halliburton,
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  Speaker 3: for the listeners, is that he got hurt in Game
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  Speaker 3: 7 in 2025 versus the Thunder. And we all thought
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  Speaker 3: the Thunder might be the next dynasty after the Warriors.
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  Speaker 3: And suddenly last year the Spurs didn't cooperate. And even
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  Speaker 3: the year before, there's Sean. You know, I talked about it,
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  Speaker 3: that if Halliburton plays in game seven, we don't know
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  Speaker 3: if there's any thunder right now as far as possible
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  Speaker 3: being what? A dynasty. He played well last night. The
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  Speaker 3: game was at his former alma mater, the Iowa State.
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  Speaker 3: University Cyclones. And how cool about this? He bought the
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  Speaker 3: student section on both ends for the student body. It
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  Speaker 3: was a first-come, first-served. The students got there at 11
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  Speaker 3: o'clock at night the night before to get those seats
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  Speaker 3: and the chair for Halliburton. What happened, Rick Carlisle took him.
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  Speaker 3: He played 16 minutes, but the fans kept on yelling
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  Speaker 3: his name that Rick told Halliburton to go in the
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  Speaker 3: locker room, take off his sneakers, and come back in a.
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  Speaker 3: With what I used to think as being on in loafers.
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  Speaker 3: So the fans kept on yelling and Halliburton kept on
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  Speaker 3: pointing to his feet and said, what? I'm not even
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  Speaker 3: dressed right now anymore. I love it. Again, the fans
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  Speaker 3: with their enthusiasm. And you know about Iowa State, I
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  Speaker 3: haven't mentioned, you know, Jeff, that's Jeff Hornacek, former Utah
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  Speaker 3: Jazz great, has a little amount in case you're wondering, Sean,
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  Speaker 3: the class of 1986.
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  Speaker 2: Cyclones 86? I didn't even realize that for Jeff Hornacek.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff Hornacek was 1986, and Jeff Hornacek was a
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  Speaker 3: second-round pick. So, again, you and I talk about this
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  Speaker 3: all the time, is that whether you're drafted first round,
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  Speaker 3: second round, undrafted, it's irrelevant. Once you get on a gridiron,
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  Speaker 3: once you get on to the court or the dominant baseball,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter whether you're drafted or not drafted, can
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  Speaker 3: you perform? And that's the beauty of sports.
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  Speaker 2: Gordy, the first segment of the show, I was talking
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  Speaker 2: about how many, how many wins your star players in
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  Speaker 2: football are worth to your franchise or worth to your,
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  Speaker 2: your college football team. Cause BYU is out without their
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  Speaker 2: best player for the next four to six weeks. And
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  Speaker 2: they got some huge games coming up with Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: in there and maybe Utah. If he's out for the
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  Speaker 2: full six weeks in basketball, it's obviously different. Individual players
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  Speaker 2: have an even greater impact in basketball. Which NBA player
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  Speaker 2: is worth the greatest amount of wins to his team?
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  Speaker 3: Wemby. Victor Wemby Amber. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Wemby. And before that was Michael Jordan. Before that,
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  Speaker 3: and LeBron. Absolutely. But Wembley right now in the present tense,
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  Speaker 3: when Wembley plays, the chances of his team winning are
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  Speaker 3: absolutely greater. And also right behind that slightly Nikolai Jokic
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  Speaker 3: of the Denver Nuggets. So those two guys have the
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  Speaker 3: most impact of anybody in the NBA because they really
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: help their team as far as all around. So even
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  Speaker 3: though Jalen Brunson played great, he has a lot of
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  Speaker 3: bunch of sidekicks also that are really talented, too. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Luka Dante's an L.A. Lakers. He's a wonderful
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  Speaker 3: player that's one-sided as far as offensively. But Victor Wembyama
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  Speaker 3: can do everything for his team, and he does it
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  Speaker 3: with such a smile on his face.
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  Speaker 2: I know that it's too early to be getting fully
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: into basketball on the college level. Utah men's basketball, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a guy you know well, Alex Jensen, was successful in
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: an exhibition against UNLV. And look, exhibition basketball, I'm not
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: here to draw massive conclusions one way or another, but
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: second year, coming in, you've had more time to build
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: your program. The investment that we keep hearing about seems
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to be you know, taking shape or at least helping
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: improve this. We also know what an uphill climb it is. Realistically,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be in the Big 12 Conference. So
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: what should our expectations be in terms of a leap
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: forward for Utah basketball?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Sure. One, it's the best league in the country, top
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: to bottom. That's the first thing. I'm a Big East devotee,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: but the Big East is not nearly as good as
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: the Big 12 overall. And the Big 10, who's a
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: juggernaut in all sports, but the Big 12 from 1
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: through 12, which is probably 1 through 16, is an
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: amazing league. All right, so for Alex Jensen's crew, if
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: they could win... we'll say seven league games this year,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: that'd be really positive. That's positive. That's a point in
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: the right direction. And also looking at the schedule, their
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: non-league schedule, they really don't go on the road at all.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So they have a chance to get momentum and confidence
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: by playing all those home games. And so that should
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: be interesting. What you want to do with a young
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: team is develop confidence. where this is how we're winning.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: We won this game, and here's the reasons why. So
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: today with Alex Jensen, with the film work, when they
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: broke down the game against UNLV last night, they're going
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: to point out the positive things they did based on
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the practice drills to reinforce it. So a lot of times, Sean,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: players question, why are we doing all these drills? Sometimes
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: they're monotonous. And what happens when you're a coach, you
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: want to show the– During the film session, the exact
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: thing what happened in a positive way based on the
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: drill you did for the last two weeks in practice.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: And that reinforces that the drill work is absolutely critical
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: how you do it in the game.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: What's the list today, Gordy?
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: The list today, Sean, let's talk offense for a second.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: This is only a baker's dozen, Sean. So here's the
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: question to you, Sean. How much is a baker's dozen? Thirteen. Thirteen.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: I love it. That's right. Exactly. I know Sean, you're
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: a college graduate, University of Utah slash Weber State. So
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: I know that you knew that. Quickly. NBA leaders in
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the most regular season games of scoring 35 points or
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: more for a career. Regular season. I cut it off
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: at 13. This is a who's who in basketball. 35
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: points or more career-wise. Quickly. Attributes. To be a dominant
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: punt producer, one, you need ball skills, range shooting, and
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: physical toughness. Two, be able to drive the ball to
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the basket and finish. Three, if you get fouled before that,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: you're a three-foe line resident as far as scoring the
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: ball from the foul line. And four, mentally, you've got
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: to be an alpha dog personality, supreme confidence baller. Hey,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I'm the best player on the court, especially in the
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Give me the ball. I can do magical
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: things for us. Here we go. Number 13, Steph Curry
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: had 168 games so far of 35 points or more.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Number 12, all-time, Dominic Wilkins, 170. Number 11, Kevin Durant, 182.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Number 10, Jerry West, 188. Number 9, Allen Iverson, 193.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Number eight, Elgin Bela, 197. Number seven, all-time, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, 198.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Number six, James Harden, the only lefty in this group.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: He scored 202 times, 35 points or more. Number five, all-time,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Oscar Robinson, 213. Number four, the late, great Kobe Bryant, 236.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Number three, LeBron James, 249 times. The second greatest ever
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: score as far as 35 points or more in games
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: is Michael Jordan, 331. And the number one player of
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: all time, his nickname was the Big Dipper, of scoring
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: 35 points or more in a regular season NBA game
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: is Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt did it 381 times. Thus, That's
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: my list of today. Jazz basketball, just one note. Karl
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Malone did it 151 times, 35 points or more.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Incredible.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Incredible. Wilt. Sean, I didn't say 25. 35 points or more.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Wilt did it 381 times.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: That's insane.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: It's a shame that he played in the era that
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: he did instead of now. So, like, we didn't get to...
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: The contemporary fan doesn't get to fully appreciate, myself included.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Remember Sean, he was seven foot tall, 275, waist 34 inches.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Man, crazy.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: To talk about shoulders and everything else as far as
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: upper body strength, that was him.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Gordy, I always appreciate your time. We'll talk again soon.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. Peace out.